BREAKING: David NOT a Centrist Neo-Liberal Shill

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  • Опубликовано: 23 апр 2019
  • --Despite numerous claims that David is now a centrist neo-liberal shill, David's Political Compass test confirms David has become more progressive and left wing over the last few years
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  • @KevinUchihaOG
    @KevinUchihaOG 5 лет назад +106

    "Pro assad left" does those people actually exist or is it just that mainstream media smears Tulsi Gabbard so much that people think that Tulsi supporters are "pro assad" or what? I've never seen anyone defend assad, ever. Not even Tulsi.

    • @makeitlucid
      @makeitlucid 5 лет назад +1

      Kevin Uchiha correct.

    • @MrMusic238
      @MrMusic238 5 лет назад +10

      You need to research more. There is a big pro-assad following especially in the UK. It's where the far left meet the far right. Very irrational and very weird

    • @bisso5467
      @bisso5467 5 лет назад +1

      @@MrMusic238 where is the merit in that? It's one thing to refuse to gobble up everything the MSM feeds you.

    • @dumpthechump1769
      @dumpthechump1769 5 лет назад

      Didn't she SAY she was pro-assad?

    • @doesnotcompute3174
      @doesnotcompute3174 5 лет назад +5

      dumpthe chump Lmao please find one clip of her saying she was pro Assad. One where she states that she supports at least most of what he’s done and is doing, because that is exactly what is implied when you say you’re pro someone or something.

  • @kkspencer8376
    @kkspencer8376 5 лет назад +15

    At age 54, my scores are -7.75 & -7.69. I'm far to the left from where I was in high school. With age comes wisdom.

    • @crowstalin7074
      @crowstalin7074 5 лет назад +2

      Well said :D

    • @georgeelmerdenbrough6906
      @georgeelmerdenbrough6906 2 года назад +1

      I was once a Republican but that was more because of what I did not know moreso than I did . Now my profile is very much like yours . I decided to educate myself to better my argu ents against leftism and ended up switching sides . I did the same thing with religion . I was a loose believer but really did not know much about the source of those beliefs . So I studied the bible . Now I am an agnostic atheist . Go figure .

    • @kkspencer8376
      @kkspencer8376 2 года назад +1

      @@georgeelmerdenbrough6906 at 57 I'm still to the far left ... Lol. I'm far more progressive than most my age.

  • @weeznaz8195
    @weeznaz8195 5 лет назад +128

    Never give in to haters: you are a good voice in independent media

    • @nocturnalrecluse1216
      @nocturnalrecluse1216 5 лет назад

      I'd like to line up these Progressive cannibals and shoot them to rags.

    • @wwewify
      @wwewify 5 лет назад +2

      @@nocturnalrecluse1216 >:(

    • @longw01
      @longw01 5 лет назад

      Weez naz lmao since when? 😂😂😂

    • @wwewify
      @wwewify 5 лет назад

      @@nocturnalrecluse1216 That's not cool hombre!

    • @nocturnalemission6822
      @nocturnalemission6822 5 лет назад

      @@wwewify + Fuck you.

  • @nuimaleko7
    @nuimaleko7 5 лет назад +45

    II am 66 and just took the test. I am -7.5 and -7.03. I took a similar test in high school at age 14 and was found to be a radical as opposed to centrist, liberal or conservative. So not much has changed

  • @arjunshreekumar5948
    @arjunshreekumar5948 5 лет назад +35

    The 8values test is the best by far

    • @pokesprite266
      @pokesprite266 5 лет назад +3

      I second this. The questions seem much more fair and it scores you on more than two axis.

    • @cobracommander8133
      @cobracommander8133 5 лет назад

      arjunshreekumar interesting I test. I never heard of it before and just took it for the first time.
      I would love to see what Parkman’s score is on this one.

    • @uncontrolledsubstance7705
      @uncontrolledsubstance7705 5 лет назад +1

      Just took one from 8values and I came out as a Libertarian Socialist. Here's a link in case y'all think I'm full of shit. 8values.github.io/results.html?e=80.5&d=74.5&g=76.9&s=87.4

    • @beaverones41
      @beaverones41 5 лет назад +1

      Just took that test. Economic axis 75% equality, diplomatic axis 73.4% world, civil axis 73.5% liberty, societal axis 78% progress. Closest match: Libertarian socialism.

    • @CodyCLI
      @CodyCLI 5 лет назад

      @@uncontrolledsubstance7705 i.imgur.com/vlCM2AR.png I'm a more extreme version of you.

  • @EnoYaka
    @EnoYaka 5 лет назад +4

    Doesn't matter what the test says if you act and say stuff that contradicts it.

  • @jameswilhite9561
    @jameswilhite9561 5 лет назад +67

    You gonna have the VDrums in the shot but not rock out...don't tease me bro

    • @robinhoodwasasocialist.1401
      @robinhoodwasasocialist.1401 5 лет назад +2

      James Wilhite for serious. I wanna hear the intro to hot for teacher!

    • @kevinmichael9482
      @kevinmichael9482 5 лет назад

      @@robinhoodwasasocialist.1401 That would be rad! How about Tom Sawyer?

  • @nafnu8838
    @nafnu8838 5 лет назад +13

    Economic: -5.13
    Social: -4.62
    I feel as if I've disappointed you all

    • @santisinferno
      @santisinferno 5 лет назад +1

      Ew

    • @MrJonsonville5
      @MrJonsonville5 5 лет назад +7

      Get outta here you far right fascist!!
      😋

    • @nafnu8838
      @nafnu8838 5 лет назад +2

      @@MrJonsonville5 Well since its been established what would you recommend I start with? Denying Global Warming? Twitter tirades? Supporting a wall? More military spending? Oh Oh what about tax cuts that take money from the poor?

    • @nafnu8838
      @nafnu8838 5 лет назад +2

      @@santisinferno I know I'm disgusting but at least I'm not a LIBTARD LOL REKT. NO COLLUSION. NO OBSTRUCTION

    • @nafnu8838
      @nafnu8838 5 лет назад

      @@santisinferno FACTS AND LOGIC

  • @aamaurismith6658
    @aamaurismith6658 5 лет назад +28

    You should definitely try out the 8values test

    • @natalies7030
      @natalies7030 5 лет назад

      Apparently I am a libertarian communist... and here I was thinking I was probably an AnCom but I don’t know if that’s even a category for results on this so it’s close enough.
      I always have known I was on the far left but damn ,apparently I am even further almost at the tip 😁

    • @bagoiv75
      @bagoiv75 5 лет назад

      @@OB.x nã, probably the most clever. the virtue is in the center. extreme ideologies never did any good. extreme actions did a lot of good, ideologies? never

    • @bagoiv75
      @bagoiv75 5 лет назад

      @@natalies7030 there's a thing called real world, where you can't create anything that will bring joy to everyone. so if you, instead, fight realistically, you can end up making things better to some people. libertarianism, libertarian communism are really beautiful worlds, but they just end up bring misery

    • @natalies7030
      @natalies7030 5 лет назад

      BaGo IV hey I didn’t pick the words ,I literally took the test and was just saying what my results were. So maybe in reality you need to either understand what you are responding to, or do us all a favor and don’t. I am just being honest and living in reality 😁

  • @jamesoblivion
    @jamesoblivion 5 лет назад +60

    -8.13 economic, -7.44 social
    Solidarity, comrades!

  • @kyivstuff
    @kyivstuff 5 лет назад +2

    The same happened with me! In 2012 I had tested -3,25; -4,15. But in 2018 I tested as socialist anarchist (can’t find the numbers). It’s probably all the David Graeber’s books that I’ve read :P [edit] Now it’s Economic Left/Right: -5.38, Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.69

  • @jobguy2351
    @jobguy2351 5 лет назад +8

    "People who listen to my political analyses think that I'm a centrist, but I did an online test and it said I'm on the political left. NOW who looks foolish?"
    Dude...

    • @JackFate76
      @JackFate76 5 лет назад +4

      Exactly. This is beyond laughable.

    • @steampunkgeneration
      @steampunkgeneration 5 лет назад +2

      I agree. There's just something so childish in what he is doing.

    • @coreyhill7058
      @coreyhill7058 5 лет назад

      Job Guy Did you take this test? Because this one biases people to the left

  • @TechedCanvas
    @TechedCanvas 5 лет назад +22

    Pro-Assad left wing?? David I mean come on, be serious! None of us are pro-Assad. It’s just getting ridiculous.
    PS we are very close on the spectrum.

    • @zac5572
      @zac5572 5 лет назад

      yes we are

  • @danielstarr7797
    @danielstarr7797 5 лет назад +11

    now that you're self proclaimed even more progressive then before you should start covering aoc, rashida tlaib, ilhan Omar and the other Jdems more

  • @EasyKiwi111
    @EasyKiwi111 4 года назад +1

    I Side With told me I should vote for Gov. Cuomo for POTUS 2020. Here I was thinking I was an ultra-leftist libertarian but apparently my whole life has been a lie 😭🙃

  • @7lllll
    @7lllll 5 лет назад +2

    david's neoliberal centrist tendencies are not philosophical, but strategic

  • @paulc6060
    @paulc6060 5 лет назад +4

    I got Economic Left/Right: -8.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

    • @Tales41
      @Tales41 5 лет назад

      you are not in the left but in faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar left

  • @JC-ce1ks
    @JC-ce1ks 5 лет назад +3

    I don't think many people are pro-Assad, David. I think it's more likely that people didn't think that arming terrorists to take him out was a good idea (as we've seen from what has happened to other countries). But maybe you've seen comments that I haven't (and this is coming from someone who is also somewhat critical of Tulsi too, although I still believe she's one of the better candidates. I wish she'd be more clear over certain positions though).

    • @el80ne
      @el80ne 5 лет назад

      Nice spin. Whether you agree with her or not, Tulsi is unambiguously pro-Assad.

    • @JC-ce1ks
      @JC-ce1ks 5 лет назад +1

      @@el80ne I have no idea what Tulsi thinks. I'm just giving my own opinion (and I've been critical of Tulsi and certain things she's said many times, such as criticizing Obama for not for bombing enough in Syria. Or I at least want to understand her reasons better).

    • @el80ne
      @el80ne 5 лет назад +1

      @@JC-ce1ks Ok. Fair enough.

  • @aidenwhiting5131
    @aidenwhiting5131 5 лет назад

    Describing Tulsi as pro assad is dishonest, saying we shouldn't attack someone doesn't mean we support them, it means we shouldn't attack them, it's called non intervention, don't support either side.

  • @AceofDlamonds
    @AceofDlamonds 5 лет назад +1

    The thing about far leftists and far rightists is they tend to smear fellow leftists and rightists as enemies.because they disagree on one, two points.

  • @CowboyChuntis
    @CowboyChuntis 5 лет назад +20

    "Pro Assad left" what are you talking about right now. That was absolutely a smear on tulsi and supporters. I can see that even though I support bernie. Any respect I had for you is gone!

  • @DJ-zp8hw
    @DJ-zp8hw 5 лет назад +4

    Great! Let's get David Wolf and Chomsky on the show!

  • @lilrawri8446
    @lilrawri8446 5 лет назад +2

    Regardless of how much I agree or disagree with him, this dude is unlikable

  • @marysharkey1503
    @marysharkey1503 5 лет назад

    Anyone who says you're Centrist neo-liberal has not been listing to you or certainly not hearing you, David.

  • @AnhTrieu90
    @AnhTrieu90 5 лет назад +3

    BREAKING: David is abusing the word “BREAKING”

  • @warshade2029
    @warshade2029 5 лет назад +3

    I don't always agree with you, David, but I think you are an accurate reporter and important voice on RUclips. Keep up the great work!

  • @croixrennie892
    @croixrennie892 5 лет назад +1

    I’m a Left Libertarian.

  • @dlindberg3
    @dlindberg3 5 лет назад +1

    I think a characterization of a 'neo-liberal centrist moderate of some kind' would be someone who groups the 'Tulsi Gabbard wing of the left' with the 'Pro-Assad wing of the left'

    • @dlindberg3
      @dlindberg3 5 лет назад

      Another question: are your differences statistically significant?

  • @leilani-chan8809
    @leilani-chan8809 5 лет назад +14

    You consistently give analysis and projections along with reasoning. You aren't always right, but you also never claim to be. You can hold a civil argument and you don't deflect.
    Overall, it simply sounds like people disagree with what you have to say, and would rather accuse than civilly disagree / accept different perspective.
    Sure, there are some basis for factual vs. Not, but most of life is nuanced, and you reflect this VERY well.

    • @SpartanAegis
      @SpartanAegis 5 лет назад +3

      I appreciate this sensible comment

    • @nicktheparanoid6282
      @nicktheparanoid6282 5 лет назад +3

      There are a few issues where he does deflect though. Just in this video he mentions a supposed "pro assad" wing of the left.
      With that being said, David is not bad at all, I do get the criticisms leveled to him but overall he is a positive voice of independent media

    • @nocturnalrecluse1216
      @nocturnalrecluse1216 5 лет назад

      And YOU civilly argue? By labeling corporatists as money hungry Jews? Man GTFO of here. 😂

    • @MrJonsonville5
      @MrJonsonville5 5 лет назад +2

      Yup, when people don't have an actual argument they resort to name calling and false labels. It's what trump does... it's sad that there are people on the left taking pages from his playbook.

    • @nicktheparanoid6282
      @nicktheparanoid6282 5 лет назад +1

      @@nocturnalrecluse1216 nice try to smear. No one said anything about "corporate money hungry jews" in here. Quite ironic that you're the one laughing about arguing in a civil fashion and you're the first to pull shit like that.

  • @Sean-yc2ji
    @Sean-yc2ji 5 лет назад +6

    Leftist factionalism is a big problem. I've been shunned/told off for being a DemSoc instead of a Marxist Leninist... you just can't win with some people.

    • @danteshydratshirt2360
      @danteshydratshirt2360 5 лет назад

      one anecdote doesnt make it a problem or a big problem

    • @Micklemoose
      @Micklemoose 5 лет назад

      @@danteshydratshirt2360
      How about two anecdotes then? I am just a liberal, and you would think I was Franco based on the reactions some on the left have towards my more moderate economic positions.
      The left has always been ready to turn on its own. I am reminded of that scene in Life of Brian.

  • @jeffreydallaire4941
    @jeffreydallaire4941 5 лет назад

    This is so true. This just happened to me yesterday with a co worker. He said he doesnt like bernie because hes "too much of a socialist." We then went on to have a constructive conversation where he pointed out to me many of his policy positions and it was almost straight out of bernie's policy plan. To me this is an unfortunate example of how corporate media still sways peoples minds and gets them to go against their self-interests by giving people certain labels or focusing on tertiary issues such as letting prisoners vote.

  • @jessevaldelamar5234
    @jessevaldelamar5234 5 лет назад +1

    He’s just a few squares away from anarcho-communism

  • @mehdimyc
    @mehdimyc 5 лет назад +3

    David, this is a bit much. Forget the unreasonable criticisms. You're a political commentator, you're gonna make people mad. That's OK.

    • @mehdimyc
      @mehdimyc 5 лет назад

      It's social media. There is no being above anything. Being so upset by tweets and RUclips comments that you parade a political compass test is kinda cringey and obsessive. He should get over his hurt feelings.

  • @Ky-tl8ps
    @Ky-tl8ps 5 лет назад +21

    Just took the test comrades -9.13 x -7.18. Solidarity ✊🏾🌹... Seriously tho his take on Venezuela, Ilhan and some of the other progressive woc hasn't been great. That's where the criticism has come from.

    • @ravenhopkins347
      @ravenhopkins347 5 лет назад

      That's where I disagree with him

    • @Ky-tl8ps
      @Ky-tl8ps 5 лет назад +1

      Raven Hopkins yeah same, Israel too

    • @Schmidty1
      @Schmidty1 5 лет назад +4

      @grant macneil yup, almost no one on the left is claiming otherwise. We are rather explaining the failures of Venezuela are not socialisms fault which is correct. And progressives do not support U.S. coups and regime change of anyone. If you want a full explanation I can give one.

    • @JavierEzln94
      @JavierEzln94 5 лет назад

      Agreed!

  • @MichaelJones-wh9cy
    @MichaelJones-wh9cy 3 года назад

    -1.5 economically -6.41 socially

  • @vcrsalesman2606
    @vcrsalesman2606 5 лет назад

    If someone sees Pakman as centrist, they must be Waaaay to the left and probably in a thick echo chamber
    David, you’re a progressive hero and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise

  • @ryanx9372
    @ryanx9372 5 лет назад +5

    I thought I was a lot more moderate than what the test scored me at...way to the left /shrug makes no difference though, cause labels are dumb ;)

    • @KristianKumpula
      @KristianKumpula 5 лет назад +1

      Like David said in the video, "people are much more left than they believe themselves to be"

    • @ryanx9372
      @ryanx9372 5 лет назад

      Indeed, people are people.

  • @unifieddynasty
    @unifieddynasty 5 лет назад +3

    Simmer down there, Nestor Makhno.

  • @dscy
    @dscy 5 лет назад

    The correlation is that people get more conservative the wealthier they become, which usually happens when they get older.

  • @kylehankins5988
    @kylehankins5988 5 лет назад

    I was a neo-liberal shill apparently. I was right in the center.

  • @peterford9369
    @peterford9369 5 лет назад +16

    David,, we need to shove aside the label game. Look at conservatives. They are so messed up with hypocrisy the label just doesn't fit. Same with the dems. We just need to stop these stupid labels.

    • @Siberius-
      @Siberius- 5 лет назад +1

      Labels are very useful. Even when it's not entirely clear.
      The issue isn't with the labels themselves, but with how people feel they align with such labels.
      Labels aren't going anywhere anyway.
      Edit: Oh, and of course labels can be NOT useful in certain ways too.
      But overall, labels are still rather necessary. It's just unfortunate that we struggle so much with labels of sorts.

    • @hankb4615
      @hankb4615 5 лет назад +2

      I think the political establishment of both parties, and the corporate media push the label game so hard exactly to AVOID dealing with real issues and policies. Many progressive polices are quite popular with a majority of Americans, irrespective of what partisan or ideological labels they apply to themselves. And this fact (shown in study after study) is a threat to both the "conservative" and the "centrist, neoliberal" wing of the establishment. Discussions of "Too far to the left" or "too conservative" are a distraction to keep people from taking about what exactly they want government to DO. Cause when that happens, ordinary people start finding common ground. Look at the very positive responses candidates like Sanders and Warren have gotten in "conservative" areas. We aren't as divided as the establishment wants us to think.

    • @nathanwindow8732
      @nathanwindow8732 5 лет назад

      @@hankb4615 I noticed that the only "label" you didn't use quotes for is progressive, so you only find them to be useless or ever harmful "labels" when they are not what you would "label" your self. you see we need to "label" things or no one will know what people are talking about, because to understand somebody's political leaning you would have to sit down for an hour every time you talk to someone to ask them endless questions before you could talk about whatever it is that you need to discuss with them to begin with, no one has that kind of time to waste, it is because of these situations that the very concept of labels where created. if we could no longer call bananas, bananas we would have to describe a banana to someone with out saying the word banana every time you wanted to buy a banana... banana. (I know that bit about banana's was going over the top, but i think it illustrates the need for labels pretty well.)

    • @peterford9369
      @peterford9369 5 лет назад

      @@hankb4615 Now,,, did you use political labels a dozen times or so to make a point, or is there just no other way to talk politics without them?

    • @christiangeiselmann
      @christiangeiselmann 5 лет назад

      Let's start with different categories then: hyocritical vs. honest, self-reflected vs. myths-prone.

  • @TerryTurner
    @TerryTurner 5 лет назад +9

    *Just took it:*
    _Economic: -5.88_
    _Social: -7.28_
    👍😎

    • @JakesyDude
      @JakesyDude 5 лет назад +3

      I got
      Economic: -8.38
      Social: -8.62
      Pretty fuckin leftist apparently

    • @nickyp2037
      @nickyp2037 5 лет назад +2

      Nice, I'm (-9,-8)

    • @KingZu555
      @KingZu555 5 лет назад

      are you still talking about the 8valu s site? or did you entirely chage the message and contents of the original message?

    • @user-qs2nr3ee6l
      @user-qs2nr3ee6l 5 лет назад +1

      I got
      Social -5
      Economic +6

    • @thebronywiking
      @thebronywiking 5 лет назад

      This was the result the last time I took the test, September 10 2018: www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=-6.0&soc=-6.82

  • @Tom-it6gi
    @Tom-it6gi 5 лет назад

    That whole "people get more conservative as they get older" trope is so ill-observed. Their priorities might shift somewhat, but their politics can get more liberal, as they learn more about various issues, and are exposed to things and ideas that they hadn't been previously.

  • @alexd4566
    @alexd4566 5 лет назад +1

    -1.75 economic, -3.54 social
    Pretty underwhelming tbh

    • @alexd4566
      @alexd4566 5 лет назад

      @Hogyouku Monster Aizen Not at all. I'm more of a leftist libertarian. What makes you think I'm a neo-nazi? Because I'm not more extreme in my left-wing views?

    • @alexd4566
      @alexd4566 5 лет назад

      @Hogyouku Monster Aizen I'm actually from Belgium so perhaps that's why I score more to the right. My social beliefs completely align with the Greens in my country (a progressive party that focusses on ecology, social justice and pacifism), so I'm still pretty left-wing in Europe. When it comes to economics, I honestly don't know where I stand exactly because I have too little knowledge about the subject (I'm a law student and I failed economics last year lol)

    • @alexd4566
      @alexd4566 5 лет назад

      Well, we do have a communist party in Belgium. It's called "PVDA". It just can't reach the voting threshold of 5% to be represented in Parliament. I do admit that my country is predominantly conservative (a coalition of the right has been in charge of it for more than 8 years now) but change is coming. The Greens are spiking in popularity and we've seen massive marches for action against climate change (throughout whole of Europe btw). With that being said, a lot of people are turning far-right as well. I feel like radicalism on both sides is increasing tremendously everywhere. Hopefully, this won't lead to another world war...

  • @eli95fo40
    @eli95fo40 5 лет назад +11

    You lean more heavily to the left, than your average democrat that’s for sure. Don’t know what the issue is.

    • @Y7X7
      @Y7X7 5 лет назад +5

      @Without Jesus Hell Awaits shut the fuck up spammer.

    • @yadabub
      @yadabub 5 лет назад

      Trump will almost certainly be partially responsible for landslides, but not related to elections.

  • @FeLiNe418
    @FeLiNe418 5 лет назад +4

    "Anti-war = Pro assad" -David Pakman 2019

  • @1neomonkey
    @1neomonkey 4 года назад +2

    Kyle Kulinski's results show him being slightly more moderate than David even though we all know that's not true. Interesting nonetheless.

  • @neosav7476
    @neosav7476 5 лет назад +1

    That’s the soy quadrant you’re in David

  • @larrylewis9861
    @larrylewis9861 5 лет назад +5

    the Neo liberal thing. sounds like the "Not a True Scottsman" argument.

    • @datfisheboi6519
      @datfisheboi6519 5 лет назад

      In what way?

    • @larrylewis9861
      @larrylewis9861 5 лет назад

      @@datfisheboi6519 Think of one Scotsman saying another Scotsman is not a "true Scotsman " because of "make up a reason" . very similar to when Republicans call other Republicans RINOS because they say things they don't agree with. There is no argument, just "you say thing i don't like therefor you are not a liberal".

    • @datfisheboi6519
      @datfisheboi6519 5 лет назад

      @@larrylewis9861 I don't really see neoliberals called not liberals, just not leftists. This is because they, by definition, are economically right-wing. It's not a No True Scotsman if they are an Englishman.

  • @SonnyLee
    @SonnyLee 5 лет назад +4

    Bernie Sanders is center left on the political compass (-2 to -3), and David Pakman is closer to AOC.

    • @davidmallon8300
      @davidmallon8300 5 лет назад +1

      I don't like Sanders simply because he is not left enough . Of course I am biased as I am a British Socialist and have seen what a Socialist leaning economic models does for a country. E.g. Nationalised industry brings more income than when it is private. I hope he gets elected though so Americans have free health care

    • @1911GreaterThanALL
      @1911GreaterThanALL 5 лет назад

      @@davidmallon8300 It isn't free healthcare. Even in nordic countries the corporate tax rate is far less than the U.S. Value added taxes are on the citizens and not generally on corporations. Society is paying for it in advance against their will.

    • @dumpthechump1769
      @dumpthechump1769 5 лет назад +1

      I knew he was a good guy!

  • @BK-fg8ce
    @BK-fg8ce 4 года назад +1

    8 values is the best one

  • @Jeffreyketcham
    @Jeffreyketcham 5 лет назад +1

    I had a hard time answering the question about luck. It states that some people are “naturally unlucky.” Obviously some people can be born into extremely unlucky circumstances, but is that the same thing? I ended up taking it as meaning people are given their amount of luck from some unseen force and so I chose “strongly disagree.”

  • @Frahamen
    @Frahamen 5 лет назад +3

    David was never left though:
    Here's my definition:
    left: Capitalism is something bad and should be destroyed (extreme left) or phased out
    centrist: Capitalism has it's merrits and it's benefits and should be carefully regulated
    right: Capitalism is something good and should be entirely (extreme right) or patially let free to do what it wants
    SO in my defenition, David, Tlulsi, Bernie,... and pretty much all Americans are centridt to right wing...

  • @1122slickliverpool
    @1122slickliverpool 5 лет назад +4

    Besides the Tulsi controversy.( Which I disagree with your opinion entirely.) I don't know how people see as a fake progressive. I mean you literally have videos of how you would pay for these progressive policies. If that's a double agent then....ummm. Thank you? lol

    • @greensquare6235
      @greensquare6235 5 лет назад

      Gregory Shavers Jr He's a capitalist. That's a right wing position.

    • @JC-ce1ks
      @JC-ce1ks 5 лет назад +1

      I agree with some of David's criticisms of Tulsi, but that being said I still think there's not many better candidates because others have faults too (even Bernie supports use of drones to some extent). But I hate it when people try to claim that this makes David a centrist somehow. Anyone who thinks that needs to get out of their bubble and see the amount of Hilary and Kamala supporters who hate Bernie (and Tulsi) and would do anything to stop a progressive candidate winning.

    • @SaraphDarklaw
      @SaraphDarklaw 5 лет назад +2

      Social democratic countries like Denmark and Sweden are still capitalistic countries. They just have a tighter leash.

  • @TheRealPingu
    @TheRealPingu 3 года назад

    What’s wrong with centrist neo-liberal? 😢😢

  • @DjuanEastman
    @DjuanEastman 5 лет назад

    They must not be listening.

  • @thegrassrootscampaign5179
    @thegrassrootscampaign5179 5 лет назад +8

    Bro, the fact that you just said “pro-Assad wing of the left” means that you don’t even understand how out of touch you are.

  • @jordanallen3078
    @jordanallen3078 5 лет назад +3

    Good cover bro.
    Keep telling yourself that.

  • @larryryan8742
    @larryryan8742 5 лет назад +1

    8 Values is a better political test. It has way more questions that aren’t to vague and it give you a label when you have completed the test like Social Democrat, Neoliberal, Fascist, An Cap etc etc. I got social liberalism

  • @xanthousfishjeretuna9778
    @xanthousfishjeretuna9778 5 лет назад

    I took some test online and it basically called me a mix of Hitler and Stalin. Either its horribly wrong or I have major denial 😂

  • @dennis-qu7bs
    @dennis-qu7bs 5 лет назад +2

    OMG before long David will be a complete Anarchist!

  • @noremacyezam302
    @noremacyezam302 5 лет назад +6

    At this rate you'll be an anarcho syndicalist in 3 years

    • @a.e.m.1452
      @a.e.m.1452 5 лет назад +1

      Haha let's hope so 😄

    • @greensquare6235
      @greensquare6235 5 лет назад +1

      Noremac Yezam He lied on his test. These results would make him in favour of worker ownership of industry and democratisation of the workplace and he has made his opinion on those specific issues explicitly clear in the past. He's a capitalist. I trust him even less now.

    • @a.e.m.1452
      @a.e.m.1452 5 лет назад +1

      @@greensquare6235 I don't think he neccisarily lied, he could've answered no to worker's self-management and simply just been overwhelmingly left leaning on more typical issues like taxation or by strongly disagreeing with abstract classical liberal beliefs as proposed on the test. However I would agree that these results are completely inaccurate. I think a key sign should be if someone ever refers to their politics as getting "more progressive". If that's the case, they're still a liberal.

    • @julianerikson4191
      @julianerikson4191 5 лет назад

      @@greensquare6235 🤦🏿‍♂️🙄

    • @greensquare6235
      @greensquare6235 5 лет назад

      A.E.M. Taxation isn't inherently left wing. Taxes can be and are tailored to fall on the shoulders of the poor, and even if they're applied to manufacturers of consumer goods the nature of demand for those goods will decide whether those taxes get absorbed by the price of those goods. I don't remember whether the test is so granular in that regard. If not then simply answering "more taxes" means nothing.

  • @georgeelmerdenbrough6906
    @georgeelmerdenbrough6906 2 года назад

    -7.5 Left to Right , - 6.67 Authoritarian / Libertarian ....Guess I AM A BIG OL' LEFTY

  • @petitio_principii
    @petitio_principii 5 лет назад +1

    "Neoliberal" for some illiberal leftists, when attacking other leftists, is just a lazy attempt at an insult that sounds intellectual. Vaguely suggesting that the more centrist, liberal position is nearly equivalent to the right-wing position, the conclusion being that whatever is their vague, more illiberal pipe-dream, is truly awesome. Then they'll exemplify saying that Norway is socialist, or that the pillage and misgovern on socialist/anarchist Catalunia was perfect. Perhaps some other example from an earlier century for an extra coat of intellectual veneer.

  • @wickedninja8599
    @wickedninja8599 5 лет назад +3

    So can you point out how Tulsi Gabbard is an Assad supporter?

    • @greensquare6235
      @greensquare6235 5 лет назад

      The Progress Report Yeah, fuck him for sneaking that comment in there. Gaslighting turd.

  • @a.e.m.1452
    @a.e.m.1452 5 лет назад +4

    I don't think this can be accurate, you're far too left and libertarian on this compass. You'd actually be some kind of libertarian socialist or an Anarcho-Communist (probably Bakuninite if we're basing this off of the x-axis) assuming these results are accurrate, which you, as a liberal reformist Social Democrat, obviously are not.

    • @nocturnalemission6822
      @nocturnalemission6822 5 лет назад

      But you ARE anarcho-communists. You don't believe in democracy anymore, why else would you give the alright so much leniency to do as they wish? And why do you continue to delude yourselves with the false prospect that liberal Democrats are center left? You progressives are far left extremists...just as trumpskins are far right extremists. Get a clue.

  • @bjblitz2701
    @bjblitz2701 4 года назад

    Im a liberal centrist shill , and I'm proud.

  • @AhsimNreiziev
    @AhsimNreiziev 5 лет назад

    You get a thumbs' up for the title alone, good sir! I really needed that laugh.

  • @joshuaknepshield4687
    @joshuaknepshield4687 5 лет назад +6

    David "I love Joe Biden" Pakman is NOT a shill guys. Lmao

    • @el80ne
      @el80ne 5 лет назад +3

      You liar. He supports Bernie, not Biden.

    • @Ky-tl8ps
      @Ky-tl8ps 5 лет назад

      el80ne he did say that though

    • @el80ne
      @el80ne 5 лет назад +2

      @@Ky-tl8ps So what if he did? It's a smear to imply he's a shill for Biden when he supports Bernie.

    • @el80ne
      @el80ne 5 лет назад

      @@CJBetcherMolandfreak He supported Bernie last time. Policy wise he's closest to Bernie and Warren so there's no way in hell he'd endorse the pharm industry senator. But he's a left wing host with a syndicated radio show and youtube channel, of course he's obligated to research all the candidates.

  • @bruhmoment5034
    @bruhmoment5034 5 лет назад +4

    The problem with the Political Compass is that it only deals with ideology within the realm of the Overton Window. David may appear "left-wing", but he is a liberal none-the-less.
    I.e; David may appear on each issue to be close to genuine socialism, but he is philosophically more in line with a right wing libertarian objectivist than a socialist due to his neoliberal philosophy.

    • @greensquare6235
      @greensquare6235 5 лет назад +1

      stephano malakay Ok... No. He does not in any way appear to be socialist on any policy. The only people who can express this opinion honestly are those who have no idea what policies socialism entails. Ironically you yourself are a victim of the Overton window being far more to the right that YOU realise. Objectively David is centrist, that much I can agree with you on.

    • @julianerikson4191
      @julianerikson4191 5 лет назад

      Lol what the fuck?? David a neoliberal? Tells me you don't watch this channel at all. Sit down, clown.

    • @bruhmoment5034
      @bruhmoment5034 5 лет назад +1

      @@greensquare6235 I am a Marxist. I am saying, to the untrained eye, David would appear to he a "socialist", when in fact he is simply the left wing of capital identity.

    • @bruhmoment5034
      @bruhmoment5034 5 лет назад +2

      @@julianerikson4191 he believes in capitalism and upholds liberalistic values. Since he agrees with neoclassical economics, he is a neoliberal.

    • @bruhmoment5034
      @bruhmoment5034 5 лет назад +1

      @@greensquare6235 he does not uphold the notion workers ought to control the means of production, he unironically believes in the ubi which is a short run economic stimulus plan to preserve capitalism.

  • @DiscipleToki
    @DiscipleToki 5 лет назад

    I had the opposite occur when I was in my 20s I was a conservative christian, Now after years of research and open discussion, I am very much a huge progressive humanist atheist. It is rather amazing how much one can really change if they are open to introspection.

  • @Judewilkinsonjfk
    @Judewilkinsonjfk 5 лет назад

    I think the biggest problem with political allegiance tests is that definitions of political thought invariably simplify and misrepresent. As Orwell wrote, politics is (I think I got this right) making 'shapes out of thin air', and each particular categorisation is to some extent meaningless. I actually emailed Noam Chomsky on the contradictions of political definitions, and he replied 'the terms of political discourse are vague and poorly defined'. Although it is, to some extent, useful to make differing allegiances intelligible, I think we must recognise that political definitions are somewhat meaningless.

  • @nickmeistersa123456
    @nickmeistersa123456 5 лет назад +3

    I have to admit, I have stopped watching Pakman almost altogether after his bizarre criticism of AOC combined with him being skewed on the Israel/Palestine issue.

    • @josefdinzes9434
      @josefdinzes9434 5 лет назад +4

      and yet here you are to comment right as he uploads a video XD I seriously wonder if people like you hold it as a badge of honor when you decide to stop watching someone over one/two things

    • @kyliekulinski3856
      @kyliekulinski3856 5 лет назад +6

      Writing someone off completely because of one instance of disagreement is petty, unsophisticated and reactionary and it only alienates allies like David who, at the end of the day, agree with us 90% of the time.

    • @greensquare6235
      @greensquare6235 5 лет назад

      Josef Dinzes To you a war is "one thing".

    • @kyliekulinski3856
      @kyliekulinski3856 5 лет назад +4

      Green Square I’m sorry, when did David Pakman advocate for war?

    • @greensquare6235
      @greensquare6235 5 лет назад

      Thelogicalape I'm sure he didn't. You made a stupid comment nonetheless and giving you an extreme example should have made that clear. Looks like I overestimated someone's critical skills again.

  • @MenChooseSlavesObey
    @MenChooseSlavesObey 5 лет назад +4

    David is no where close to being a Libertarian considering who he supports for PotUS, He is a skillful liar.

    • @Supernautiloid
      @Supernautiloid 5 лет назад +3

      @James A. Fish I think you are confusing right-libertarian with left-libertarian. They are two very different things.

    • @MenChooseSlavesObey
      @MenChooseSlavesObey 5 лет назад

      @@Supernautiloid I'm listening to who David says he supports for PotUS and they're no where close to being being Libertarian, I would like to know what you think the differences are between A Right & Left Libertarian.

    • @Supernautiloid
      @Supernautiloid 5 лет назад

      @@MenChooseSlavesObey
      I think a better question is what do YOU think the differences are? Obviously they are very different, which probably explains why you are so confused about the people David supports for president.
      I have no problem explaining it my own words, but a ten second google search could answer all your questions if you really don't know what these terms means. This would be a good place to start I suppose...
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism

    • @MenChooseSlavesObey
      @MenChooseSlavesObey 5 лет назад

      @@Supernautiloid I was asking you what You Thought they meant, I was pretty specific in my wording. I myself am Pro Choice, 420 friendly, Pro 1st & 2nd amendment Capitalist who wants the least amount of people in the Government who has no need for concepts such as "Social" Justice, since that seems to require people in positions of authority making decisions they have no right to be making and I am in no way confused about the candidates for President on the Left, they're all anti 2nd Amendment which makes them Authoritarian Leftists or Socialists/Communists.

    • @Supernautiloid
      @Supernautiloid 5 лет назад

      @@MenChooseSlavesObey
      *"I was asking you what You Thought they meant, I was pretty specific in my wording"*
      Again, this is a good place to start. This basically mirrors what I think about left-libertarianism.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism
      And this is right-libertarianism.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-libertarianism
      *"who has no need for concepts such as "Social" Justice"*
      Social justice is why we have civil rights. To dismiss the impact of social justice on American society is to dismiss the influence of great men like Martin Luther King.
      *"since that seems to require people in positions of authority making decisions they have no right to be making"*
      This sounds a lot like capitalism to me. Our country is currently under the control of of vast corporate capitalist state, controlled by entities who are unelected and unaccountable. These entities have ultimate power over every aspect of our lives. The control the government and the media, as well as every major industry. If you don't like people in positions of authority making decisions they have no right to be making, then it seems odd to be pro-capitalist since that's what capitalism is all about.
      *"they're all anti 2nd Amendment"*
      So your claim is that all the leftist presidential candidates are anti-2nd amendment? Do you have any evidence to support this claim? Or do you just believe it based on your feelings?

  • @dc013
    @dc013 5 лет назад

    Yes, because, you know, being a centrist, having a question asked, thinking it through and then answering it, is worse than knowing the answer to the question before it is asked because my political leanings tell me the answer is totally a good idea....

  • @the_9ent
    @the_9ent 5 лет назад

    Food for you, David. Stay true to yourself.

  • @Jcewazhere
    @Jcewazhere 5 лет назад

    Saying you're republican or democrat is like saying you're a Greenbay Bronco Raiders fan but you don't like their new kicker or QB and the decisions the coach is making suck, but you'll always be a fan of the GBR's because reasons.

  • @artemioortega2356
    @artemioortega2356 5 лет назад

    I am Economic left/right: -1.25 and I am Social Authoritarian/Libertarian: 1.08. I am a center to center-left person.

  • @danwarb1
    @danwarb1 5 лет назад

    All the good people are left libertarian on this test.

  • @jimmyvance3007
    @jimmyvance3007 5 лет назад

    Can someone tell me what specific compass test this is or find a link?

  • @kyleshepherd6412
    @kyleshepherd6412 5 лет назад

    The problem with some of these labels is they are subjective. People can call themselves whatever they want but are they really? Progressive can be pro gay rights, trans rights, pro choice but what about the economic side? Are you for medicare for all? are you for a $15/hr minimum wage? some who call themselves progressive are not for medicare for all. So the problem is in the definition of terms.

  • @ImperiaGin
    @ImperiaGin 5 лет назад

    Few years ago I was a centralist but I tended to lean right. But now I'm more left than Bernie

  • @bwpbwp9613
    @bwpbwp9613 5 лет назад

    Does anyone know where David talks about the “I side with” test and compares them?
    I’d like to see his thoughts on different political tests

  • @beartrapperkc
    @beartrapperkc 5 лет назад

    god forbid you "might" be more center...LOL

  • @aggese
    @aggese 5 лет назад

    The political compass is extremely inaccurate and waighted against all kinds of directions and should not be for anything else then laughing at it

  • @hopevangheem6740
    @hopevangheem6740 5 лет назад

    Pelosi said she's a progressive, though, so....

  • @theatheistpaladin
    @theatheistpaladin 5 лет назад

    Most of the time I feel that I am farther left than David, yet I would be -2 on the left, and -9 libertarian. I consider myself a libertarian centrist. So, I don't think very highly of the results of the test. I think it is an absolute right for workers to own the company, yet I think David would not yet farther left than me. I don't know how that works.

  • @natalies7030
    @natalies7030 5 лет назад +2

    Now I had to do mine and I knew I was far left,but I am almost maxed out economic left/right -9.38 , social libertarian/authoritarian -8.26

  • @SMEE
    @SMEE 5 лет назад

    Took this test a few months ago and got nearly the same results as your recent test.

  • @marcoslopez4677
    @marcoslopez4677 5 лет назад

    Name of the website that he used for the political compus?

  • @georgekaftan3862
    @georgekaftan3862 5 лет назад

    "abortion, when a woman's life is not threatened, should always be illegal." Perfectly fair question. Everybody thinks of the issue in that way. if you disagree with that sentiment, you should score points on the left.

  • @iamtechnicallyasandwich566
    @iamtechnicallyasandwich566 5 лет назад +1

    Not gonna lie, I am very surprised.

  • @typeviic1
    @typeviic1 5 лет назад

    Centrist Neo-Liberal, plus interventionist

  • @williambeckner2640
    @williambeckner2640 5 лет назад

    You think maybe people are just getting pissed because you take a rational look at these issues without yelling about how evil the right is? Seriously though, Im a former Republican and watch the channel because you don't pander to the hard left even though it's clear your views are more in line with theirs. It was actually your channel that opened my eyes a bit to the Fox propaganda and what many on the right are doing to keep people on their side. It's important to bring in the right with a rational approach and well thought out narrative than to constantly attack them and only appeal to the hardliners on your side. They can get that from a plethora of other channels. I thank you for your service!

  • @zcorpalpha2462
    @zcorpalpha2462 5 лет назад +1

    Joe Biden 2020 Democratic Nomination 🇺🇸
    Mr. Biden is chosen, will you Mr. Pakman support him ? 🗳

  • @trevorparsons7097
    @trevorparsons7097 5 лет назад

    Although they tend to be for Canadian and Commonwealth elections and only rank how close you are to political platforms, Vote Compass is a wonderful test.

  • @stacyhsign
    @stacyhsign 5 лет назад

    Your Political Compass
    Economic Left/Right: -6.0
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13
    this one is mine

  • @yuhmuhfuhkuh
    @yuhmuhfuhkuh 5 лет назад

    The political compass is a terrible measure of political ideology

    • @robertjenkins6132
      @robertjenkins6132 5 лет назад

      I like the two-dimensional representation of the political ideology space, which is better than the more simplistic one-dimensional, left-right model. But I suspect that the questions asked and scoring of answers used to determine where a person lies in the plane are a little "iffy" (i.e., dubious).

  • @TPerm-hj4sf
    @TPerm-hj4sf 5 лет назад

    I am a neo liberal shill.

  • @billjohnston6959
    @billjohnston6959 4 года назад

    I believe you have reached angel status Davie. You are leaps and bounds left of both Bernie and Tulsi. Why dont you run for office?
    What a hockey puck