Tbh this chapter was another disappointment for me. 17s sacrifice seemed bland and emotionless, even 18 looked like she didn't even care for him. Vegeta saying that he has no teachers and learns nothing from anyone, that's just an insult to Whis, not to mention you wouldn't have gotten SSB if it wasn't for Whis so wym you don't learn from anyone, that doesn't make sense. Toppo and Dyspo seemed wasted, Dyspo didn't even do anything interesting the whole tournament and just felt like a waste of time, and Toppo literally spent the whole Tournament just fighting Vegeta (besides Goku). The manga actually was doing a good job with Toppo until he gets wasted and no epic moments with GoD Toppo like we had in the anime. Also like what Geekdom said Jiren was a bonehead letting Toppo and Dyspo get eliminated, thats just a dumb idea when the fight is about having the most numbers. And UI apparently can be tapped into at will at random? That's just takes away from the tension, and takes away from the feeling of it being a last resort. Even the art in my opinion just looked bland to me. This chapter was just another let down for me.
Of course 18 was unemotional, she knows her brother and knows he wasn't actually going to kill himself, just bluff it like in the anime. Her being unemotional was simply a way to tell 17 "You're not fooling me, I know what you're doing" without spilling it to the others, it makes sense for those two characters to act like that Also Vegeta insulting Whis was intended, there's actually a panel in the manga right after he says he had no masters where Whis looks insulted. Vegeta is an arrogant bastard, it's in character for him to ignore the fact he owes some of his skills to someone else's teachings and just claim he got it all by himself
@@assef7040 What do you mean? Did you mean "there was *no* sign of a bluff" in the anime? Or that there were signs of a bluff in the anime but not in the manga?
Toppo? Isn't his name just Top now? The manga continues to “de-hype” certain characters compared to the anime. Another example are the U6 Nameks. In the anime, they were formidable fighters who were forced to fuse together with every single namek. However, in the manga, it was more like “Oh, U6 has Nameks too? K. Bye!”
Yeah, they made the ultimate sacrifice, their entire population, and that really hit piccolo. Manga was like: go watch the anime if you wanna watch something cool!
that's the way its supposed to be, how can 2 random namekians come and equal fu**ing Gohan in power? that was ridiculous when it happened in the anime, I love how the tournament of power shows how far ahead in power level U7 is to EVERYBODY else, I also loved how they didn't just make Kefla stupidly strong like it happened in the anime, power scaling in the manga is tiers above the anime.
Ive honestly lost my excitement for the Dragon Ball Super manga. The story is not only being rushed but being unnecessarily changed in idiotic ways in order to be different from the anime. On top of that with Shueisha striking down honest hard working youtubers for covering the chapters. It kills any sense of fun or enjoyment that was already hard enough to squeeze from the lackluster plot. At the moment the hype that the DBS manga was tracking has entirely been absorbed by the Dragon Ball Fan Manga Community. And that’s not really a bad thing.
I’ve been an advocate DBS manga supporter. With that said, I agree here. It’s also annoying to constantly see people bash the manga, FOR THE SAKE OF THE ANIME. Like the anime was honorable or something. I feel like people were comparing it more for “animation versus panel” sake than just actually story telling. But now, I’ll admit you can tell Toyo wants this bad boy to be done and over with. I don’t think he likes the plot in general and it shows, I appreciated it at first. Now it’s draining.
Eh, the anime was better than the manga (at least in this arc) bar none. especially since the manga is hardly doing "story telling" when they rush every potential interesting angle and take out everyone not named "Goku, Vegeta, Frieza or Jiren" without anything of interest happening. Because that's what we need is less story-telling and more rushing to the end boss. yaaaaaaaaaaay.
You are aware that Toyotaro is not trying to be different than the anime right? Im pretty sure that most of the events that are not on the manga were invented by Toei, I do believe that (even tho is kinda rush) Toyotaro has better understanding of power scaling and go straight to the point, don’t forget that since childhood we all loved dbz for the fights and punches and not the actual story
The manga is in a pretty big disadvantage since it comes months after everyone has seen the anime, yet has to follow the same plot. If there were no changes or very little changes, it would be pretty uninteresting, and the attempt to change the plot in a radical way is probably the reason to all the weird stuff we're seeing. If Toyotaro had bren allowed to make his own story that's separate from the anime's, I think the series would have a lot better plot
I think jiren leaving toppo and dypso to fall made sense because when jiren was about to knock out vegeta, they distracted them and goku saved vegeta due to that.... So in jiren's mind they are just holding him back
@@geets3794 that dosnt matter because Universe 7 still has more fighters then pride troppers. That means with every second Universe 7 os close to victory. And now jiren is fighting Ui goku what will for sure take a lot of time
@7:47 _"cool moment where Frieza finger-blasts Toppo's box"..._ Frieza did *_what_*_ now? Come on now,_ Daniel. You tried to _sneak_ it in, but we *_all_* heard it. You can't just _stroll_ right past that description like you _didn't_ just say what you said man. *at-least* acknowledge it w/ a _"pause"_ or _something!_ I *_refuse_* to believe that you didn't realize you just described Lord Frieza getting to 3rd base, via stimulating a *giant walrus man's eager vagina.* Admit it.
_Ooohhh..._ Shit. well that makes *way* more sense! You're right. My bad, people. _Still_ though... - _usually_ the phrase *_finger blasting_* is _pretty_ much *universally* reserved to *1* _pretty specific_ action, executed in a *much, **_much_* different manner, than what is being described here. So, as _Sterling Archer_ would point out, *_"Phrasing!"_* is key, & i'm surprised we didn't get a _"pause..."_ from Geekdaddy-D on that 1. I'm sure i'm not the _only _*_1_* whose mind went *straight* to picturing Frieza doing to Toppo, what i used to do to girls i took the movies in 9th grade, right guys? Also, some talented weirdo needs to _rule 34_ that shit *ASAP.*
Tricko No I say they deserve better due their importance amongst the Pride Troopers and as characters in the Universal Survival Arc as a whole for Universe 11. Besides Jiren of course. Toriyama did not personally create them to be throw away characters. Plus if you are going to constantly atate that Toppo is a G.O.D. candidate and maje him look overwkemingly powerful in the manga version of his debut against Goku, then we expect to see that followed up upon. Not just mentioned offhandily only to then forget about just because the mangaka rushed the storyline in order to get the conclusion faster. Character development or tension be damned.
People wanting to get the filler fights out of the way neglect any soul or charm, and also it's like there are 80 fighters and yet people just want to see 5 fighters fight due to strength alone? Really?
@@assef7040 I get that it's a joke it's just stupid (edit, not even that it's stupid, just so exaggerated that I dont see the humor in satire since its just obviously not true and nothing in this manga even implied such a wild interpretation)
Also 17's sacrifice was way more emotional in the anime then it was in the manga. I didn't get why 18 didn't care about 17 sacrificing himself. 17 self destructed for nothing unlike the anime where he self destructed to save goku and vegeta, the manga made it seem pointless.
Lloyd Irving “ignored most of the arc” you mean like how gohan was only relevant for one chapter in the manga???lmao while in the anime gohan had several episodes just for himself
What were they supposed to do? It is never stated that GoD is a transformation, also Toppo already was using divine ki back at the exhibiton match and defeated Goku. I don't see the point on having that Toppo's transformation that actually did nothing and leaded to nowhere
"Giving side characters strong transformations is a waste of time. Just keep that to main characters and rush to the final fight leaving story elements behind= Amazing writing " - Manga fanboys
Right? I don't get people who say the manga version of ToP is better than the anime version. Yeah we did get dragged out moments with characters like Ribrianne and had scaling that didn't make much sense but at least we had epic moments like GoD Toppo, light speed Dyspo and 17 "sacrificing" himself to save Goku and Vegeta
@@videocreator970 Bro some of the manga scaling makes no sense as well. Like Kefla should be muchhh stronger than Goku, but she's equal to Gohan. It doesn't make any sense.
Toyotaro put himself in a corner with UI being just something Goku can transform into because he's gonna try and "explain" something in the end but it will fail like most of the "explanations" he has done
uhm no he didn't transform because he was "upset" in the Anime Goku went UI for the first time because he broke his shell while not wanting to die to the negative energy of the Spirit Bomb and then he didn't want to give up and went UI against Kefla and then the last time he went UI against Jiren he was thinking about everyone not just 17 he was thinking about Jiren's trust issues, 17 sacrificing himself, Vegeta doing everything he can to stop Jiren from winning and the thought about everyone that is cheering him on sorry but compared to those 3 from the Anime this manga version is trash
@@naturalbiggie Spirit Bomb has no negative energy, the technique literally TARGETS evil intention of opponents that's why Gohan was able to deflect it easily.
i wonder if people have actually watched the fucking episode WHIS LITERALLY STATED IT the negative energy was created when it turned into that black hole like bro pay attention
i like how Omen has been depicted(even more so in the manga)as a “mental state”,and how goku chose not to get angry because that would have broken the technique that he needs most, it feels like he’s evolving as a person rather then having another transformation. and while the problem of it being “too easy” to achieve for him is a possibility, i can see them making it so goku is unable to set his mind back in to it, unable to let his mind drift naturally again, a tournament like this might have been the only thing that could have brought that out of him,who knows.
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jamaine gardner That make ui just like any other form and not special anymore. In the anime, ui just appear when goku is near dead and that make things much more interesting. I hope its not getting overused in the manga
+BraveBlitz "Yeah but its okay because like every other character that's not Goku and Jiren they don't matter, its okay not to have story-telling as long as we can rush to the final fight" - Manga Fanboy
It's not a bad decision, goku felt uneasy about 17 death and goku had more reason to fight for so him getting ui was fine. Do what isn't fine is how the anime just said goku couldn't use it, like goku needs more plot armor.
Vegeta's "evolution" was lack luster in the manga. It lacked fanfare and the manga made it seem like he only transformed out of jealousy for Goku which tbh, is a trope that his character should have grown out at this point in time but whatever. The explanation for what it can do, like abilities or drawbacks were nonexistent and we are just left to assume "ooh different aura means he's stronger now"and his declaration of "Oh I never had a teacher and I'm better when I solo train" reeks of hypocrisy especially when Whis and Beerus are in the stands and without them he wouldn't even know what Super Saiyan Blue was or be at the level of power he is currently at which makes Vegeta come off a spoiled and not humbled. I love the action panels that Toyotaro does, it's undeniable that he does a great job but...he crams so much into one page that it makes it hard for the images to breathe at times. And the reaction to 17's sacrifice comes off as phoned in and not genuine.
For how bad the manga has been for the last couple chapters. I enjoy the way Jiren (character) is being presented overall over the anime. And Vegeta not going the U.I route was reasonable.
Вова Барс I agree, sure in the manga he does let toppo and dyspo fall. But I look at it as “you guys are beat, I’ll handle the rest of this fight.” Kind of like a Superman to Justice League type roll. Dyspo even comments, if they did keep fighting they’d only hold him back from letting loose at this point in the tournament.
You forgot to mention how terrible Android 18 was written in this chapter. Android 17 was talking about his family before he was about to sacrifice himself and saying "Please look after my family," and 18 was like "Yeah sure whatever." She had no feeling whatsoever, no reaction to her brother dying. That's freaking terrible.
18 had like zero personality in the manga version of Super. Never fought with Krillin, got ringed out without any glory, and just didn't care that her brother was sacrificing himself. Sure, people bring up "we got Dragon Balls, 17 will brought back to live," but still this make 18 look terrible.
for me 17 sacerfice was just stupid in the Manga. he was just blowing himself up for nothing. In the Anime he saved Goku and Vegeta with his sacrefice and at least, 18 cared! and that Toppo and Dyspo elimination was stupid too.
...But then again, Mike brought up the ultimate counterargument to this in his "Why Roshi makes less sense than you thought" video (that he took down I think). You *_can't_* suppress your reaction time. Even if he suppressed himself, Jiren's so much stronger that his reaction time would've allowed him to see *everything* Roshi did.
Just to even fight at the speeds of a GoD like Jiren does you'd have to have reflexes on par with your speed and strength. Reflexes are entirely instinctual and *can't* be suppressed. Jiren's own innate reaction speed would've made Roshi look like a statue compared to him. It simply doesn't make sense in any scenario for a character like Jiren to get taken by surprise by Roshi, a character who should be Namek saga tier at the absolute best. It at least makes sense for Beerus vs Vegeta because at no point do we see Beerus even attempt to fight back before Vegeta gets tuckered out.
I thought it was awesome that Jiren let Toppo and Dyspo fall. It goes along with the theme, that Jiren loses because he relies only on his own strength, while Goku has all his friends supporting him, which has brought him this far.
Manga is honestly just a lot worse compared to the anime in most aspects, certainly some good things that are better than the anime but the majority of things aren’t.
RoronoaZoroUltimateBadass Honestly as much as I like the manga you got a good point. The fights are too fast and not as crazy epic. Even though it's plots are good, this one goes to the anime.
To all of you who is saying that the characters are “de-hyped” remember that Toriyama simply gives both Toei and Toyotarou a simple script, all the hype that Toei creates is not necessary the real story, actually it’s pretty accurate to say that Toyotarous version is closer to what Toriyama had in mind and there is no denying that this Goku (and every character really) are WAY more like DBZ and not the stupid guys that the anime of dbs showed us
Exactly, I can't imagine Toriyama giving every damn character in the tournament random power ups and transformations, that didn't feel like Dragon Ball at all, it was too over the top and ridiculous. Toriyama always prefers more simple transformations, Toei just kept showing new power ups every episode to sell more toys. The whole Dragon Ball Super anime didn't feel like Dragon Ball to me, specially because of the art style and censorship.
No it's not closer. Because we know how Tori is. It's just Toyo failing to fill it with life what the script and plot outlines say..that's his failing. Not toriyamas intent
Bad, bad and double bad Goku impact of changing to UI In the Anime is Way better than this manga version. He'll give Vegeta UI in the next chapter why don't you Toyotaru.
17.....so upset with the lack of Emotion in this chapter, or rather that scene. Didn't even get the First damage on Jiern. Damn it, I biggest complaint. I get why, just a bit bummed out is oh. Also, when 17 blows up the ring and we see whats left. There are rather big chunks off to the far side. Im assuming thats where he is at. Also I liked 18s reaction to what he was about to do. She knew there was no stopping him. I still prefer her anime counter part because, at the time. She had to watch her brother die twice and not be able to do anything about it both times. Still good though.
10:30 You made an error here the Grand Priest actually said that *Universe 7* won't be penalized against his self destruction because there wasn't any rule against this so for that instance only they won't be penalized.
I subscribed too! What if Ultra Instinct isn’t actually that fast because it was talking about their home planets? What if Jiren is actually faster but his home planet made him slower? What if Jiren was never that fast but Gokus home planet made him really slow? You never know.
Whilst I didn't like how they treated Toppo and Dyspo here, as a Freeza fan I'm pretty happy: seeing him at almost full health and stamina by the time he's reached this stage in the tounrament makes me hopeful that he'll have bigger role than he had in the anime prior to episode 131(you know 'cause in the anime he got wrecked by Hakaishin Toppo). Also, I'd like to point out 2 things that you missed/glossed over: 1 - The "evolved" SSB Vegeta was actually beating Jiren for a decent portion of the chapter until Jiren took shit more seriously. 2 - According to 17, Whis and Jiren, Freeza was stalling when he fought Jiren. In fact, what gave this away to Jiren was the moment Freeza mentioned that he wasn't fighting at his full power (Which also made Jiren want to end things quickly before it became a little more problematic)
Can jiren even sense Ki i don’t think there’s any evidence that he can or direct comments that he can. So maybe that’s why he didn’t shoot the rock Goku and Vegeta where hiding behind. You could chalk up his reactions to things he didn’t directly see to spatial awareness, anticipation, and instinct. Any opinions on my theory Geekdom?
Nah that was accurate to Jirens character, he doesn’t mess with the weak. Toppo and Dyspo were more than disappointing in the manga especially compared to the anime. Jiren was cocky but he doesn’t fuck with the weak too not in his character to help them.
Also ssjbe vegeta wasn't in this chapter, Vegeta's power just skyrocketed making his ssjb form even stronger and making him stronger than toppo plus grand preist, whis or anyone would have stated that vegeta got a new form.
I liked this chapter I don't mind that Jiren didn't help Toppo and Dyspo, they were pretty much already beaten. Dyspo said he was practically defeated by 17 and Toppo couldn't really defend himself, so I believe Dyspo when he said they'd get in Jiren's way I also thought Goku becoming Sign UI was pretty cool because he was reacting to 17 dying but controlled his anger.
Jiren letting Dyspo and Toppo fall, i saw it as him putting them out of his way, sure they could have stayed “somewhere in a corner”, but Freeza(Frieza) and 17 would have kept attempted to ring them out, (cuz why wouldn’t they). Jiren letting them go, is him saving his energy and not wasting his time, avoiding any “unnecessary moves”. (plus, he’s been confident from the start that he’ll be the last one standing, so the number of fighters remaining doesn’t matter to him, in his mind, he’s (and he must be) capable enough on his own, to protect universe 11)
so no GoD Toppo, Vegeta does exactly what in the anime he says he would never do, and throws everything away to get stronger. I disagree about the fights, thought they were drawn hastily and were boring. Jiren's character is stupid, one line about his master is not enough. Dyspo and Toppo could have fought vegeta.. but I guess we need vegeta and goku vs Jiren- or not, the chapter ends with Goku ultra instinct and vegeta just standing there.. okay. Boring manga, boring art, boring story. I'm sure the goku jiren fight will look like ass too.
really, goku v kefla, hit, gohan, last fight between jiren and the u7 three, vegeta vs toppo, vegetto vs zamasu. You can't tell me you weren't more satisfied when you heard "ATASHI NO- KACHI DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" followed by the "hueh????" and then goku blowing that entire fucking rock mound away.
Mr Bubbles Finally someone that understands that we love db because of the amazing fights and to be honest we haven’t seen much of that in dbs, the manga at least show us epic fights and a serious goku just like old times
@@diegobarreto3010 every fight is off screen or a few punches and a final attack. goku uses hakai against zamasu and never again. ass pull that has no meaning.
@@deadrock1678 ah yes and the manga fights have impact... and theyre totally not skipped rushed or boiled down to punch punch okay next scene. did we even read the same manga? compare this shit with berserk or even fights in dbz manga and tell me they dont look crap and the manga is great. toyo is a hack who actually is given a lot of breathing room in these arcs but rather than writing something good or drawing something good he just goes "okay this happened lets move on to the next thing" it is a tickbox exercise with no meaning or passion.
Mr Bubbles Both versions have different interpretations of the same characters, Ribrianne is the best example, so ep 110 made sense in its own way just like how the Manga does.
@@Azazel_88 he wasn't so weak that he couldn't compete with SSB Vegeta. Vegeta had to power up to blow him away. so that's not a good enough excuse really, I just think it was a lack of foresight from the author.
I wonder if we will get a different version of Jiren's back story. We didn't get much about Jiren's master in the anime but now we get some more information about who he was and what he taught Jiren
i felt very engaged with the video when looking at the manga with you. I never did this before lol. I'm no manga fan. I prefer the anime, but the art is pretty good. I thought the Super anime was continuing when I clicked the video. I read the title very fast my bad XD. I can't wait for Broly movie
He can't use panels until he gets cleared. They were giving him stikes and shit down his page for a bit. So until he gets cleared this is how it will be
I love the Manga. I know folks have issues with it. And the issues are justified. I'd never debate it. But DB having flaws has never been news to me. Thus I have a good time reading this.
SOOOOOOO Goku can just go UI anytime he wants now? LAME! Its just ANOTHER Ssj form at this point, only its op. If he can just "do it" then that absolutely kills ANY sort of tension for the future. Its like looking at the Goku vs Majin Vegeta fight, *KNOWING* Goku was holding back and he could have just used SSj3 anytime. At least in the anime (even though it makes less sense) he cant willingly activate it and Ui could be used as a sort of randomizer in the future. Maby the first two arks of a new series, we never see UI, even when Goku is near death. (Cause his limiter is geeting harder and harder to break) the third arc we could see UI Omen for a fight buuuuut its not what kills the villian. And just loosely repeat that pattern (depending on the amount of arcs) until the *FINAL* arc. THEN, we could see MUI at the final battle or something. That way UI as a whole is still "special" because its not overused and predictable!
I think he can go Ultra Instinct Omen easily, but when he achieves the perfect UI (the one with grey hair), he won't be able to use it again that easily.
@@tricko8000 thats mostly what I ment. I just REALLY dont want UI to be like SS Blue where it doesnt even feel strong cause everyone can fight him in it or either beats him. EVEN SSJ3 AND GOD are praised and looked at as strong because they aren't overused too much.
So.. Goku can just turn Ultra Instinct on like a normal form? That's.. That makes no sense. Toyotaro, what are you doing? Do you KNOW What Ultra Instinct is?
He let them fall because he doesnt like relying on ppl remember? Ppl let him down so he relies on his own power. From what toppo said it sounded like the plan was to not need to use jiren or get in his way and they did so jiren bodied their asses lol
We don't know if 17 will end up useless or not, the arc isn't over yet. The arc could have a different twist than in the anime, for example Goku being unable to beat Jiren before the time runs out, but then 17 emerges and Universe 7 wins from having more fighters remaining
@@ryukishi07thecreator70 Maybe Goku and Frieza team up an triple-eliminate themselves with Jiren like in the anime, then they wonder what they should do if it's a tie and the GP says "Oh but there's still one fighter remaining" and 17 reveals himself and gets the win. That's how they should've done it in the anime imo, save the revelation right into the end
The way Toppo and Dyspo were eliminated and pushed back by Final Form Frieza is HORRIBLE in this chapter. It made me actually sick! Not Golden Frieza but Final Form frieza. GTFO Goku being able to transform into UI is also BS. Chapter was horrible!
I agree, the only thing that I could think of that explains that is that Toppo was exhausted from his fight with Vegeta, and Dyspo exhausted from 17. But the chapter has other problems too besides that.
Geekdom has really become bias against the manga a stupid move is beating your only threat not eliminating him and then take a nap for half the tournament
Last time I was this early ultra instinct was called limit breaker
Still kinda is tbh
Lmao! I remember those days.
Go home your drunk
It kinda is lol breaking the shell like Whis said.
@@NahualUlloa that's what they said about SSBE too haha.
Jiren for Smash Ultimate confirmed.
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dynamickirby I dont know about that, BUT, *AT LEAST* We are getting *BROLY*!
Tbh this chapter was another disappointment for me. 17s sacrifice seemed bland and emotionless, even 18 looked like she didn't even care for him. Vegeta saying that he has no teachers and learns nothing from anyone, that's just an insult to Whis, not to mention you wouldn't have gotten SSB if it wasn't for Whis so wym you don't learn from anyone, that doesn't make sense. Toppo and Dyspo seemed wasted, Dyspo didn't even do anything interesting the whole tournament and just felt like a waste of time, and Toppo literally spent the whole Tournament just fighting Vegeta (besides Goku). The manga actually was doing a good job with Toppo until he gets wasted and no epic moments with GoD Toppo like we had in the anime. Also like what Geekdom said Jiren was a bonehead letting Toppo and Dyspo get eliminated, thats just a dumb idea when the fight is about having the most numbers. And UI apparently can be tapped into at will at random? That's just takes away from the tension, and takes away from the feeling of it being a last resort. Even the art in my opinion just looked bland to me. This chapter was just another let down for me.
Of course 18 was unemotional, she knows her brother and knows he wasn't actually going to kill himself, just bluff it like in the anime. Her being unemotional was simply a way to tell 17 "You're not fooling me, I know what you're doing" without spilling it to the others, it makes sense for those two characters to act like that
Also Vegeta insulting Whis was intended, there's actually a panel in the manga right after he says he had no masters where Whis looks insulted. Vegeta is an arrogant bastard, it's in character for him to ignore the fact he owes some of his skills to someone else's teachings and just claim he got it all by himself
Exantius E
"he wasn't actually going to kill himself, just bluff it like in the anime."
No watch the episode again there was no sign of a bluff.
@@assef7040 What do you mean? Did you mean "there was *no* sign of a bluff" in the anime? Or that there were signs of a bluff in the anime but not in the manga?
Exantius E "no" signs is what I meant.
What if Whis was like “WHAT YOU SAY PUSSY?!” Lmao
The title sounds so wrong
YET SO RIGHT. Though, it is probably the real reason geekdom can't show the images in this vid
Sean
Bruh......
indeed Jiren smashed them ?
Ikr
I thought he said Frieza, "Finger banged his box...", he actually said rocks.
Leave to Geekdom to bring us videos at 4 in the morning. Mad respect
1 am for me
I swear geekdom has like the sleep schedule as me some times. I sleep 12pm to 5ish pm
Toppo? Isn't his name just Top now?
The manga continues to “de-hype” certain characters compared to the anime. Another example are the U6 Nameks. In the anime, they were formidable fighters who were forced to fuse together with every single namek. However, in the manga, it was more like “Oh, U6 has Nameks too? K. Bye!”
Yeah, they made the ultimate sacrifice, their entire population, and that really hit piccolo. Manga was like: go watch the anime if you wanna watch something cool!
that's the way its supposed to be, how can 2 random namekians come and equal fu**ing Gohan in power? that was ridiculous when it happened in the anime, I love how the tournament of power shows how far ahead in power level U7 is to EVERYBODY else, I also loved how they didn't just make Kefla stupidly strong like it happened in the anime, power scaling in the manga is tiers above the anime.
C'mon now, they were boring as hell in the anime. Wasting animation time. I forgot they existed until this.
Roshi vs Jiren.
@@PikaTheProsperous the fight we need.
Ive honestly lost my excitement for the Dragon Ball Super manga. The story is not only being rushed but being unnecessarily changed in idiotic ways in order to be different from the anime. On top of that with Shueisha striking down honest hard working youtubers for covering the chapters. It kills any sense of fun or enjoyment that was already hard enough to squeeze from the lackluster plot. At the moment the hype that the DBS manga was tracking has entirely been absorbed by the Dragon Ball Fan Manga Community. And that’s not really a bad thing.
If I'm gonna be honest I lost all interest in it after the trash heap Hit got thrown under in the U6 tournament.
I’ve been an advocate DBS manga supporter. With that said, I agree here.
It’s also annoying to constantly see people bash the manga, FOR THE SAKE OF THE ANIME. Like the anime was honorable or something. I feel like people were comparing it more for “animation versus panel” sake than just actually story telling.
But now, I’ll admit you can tell Toyo wants this bad boy to be done and over with. I don’t think he likes the plot in general and it shows, I appreciated it at first. Now it’s draining.
Eh, the anime was better than the manga (at least in this arc) bar none.
especially since the manga is hardly doing "story telling" when they rush every potential interesting angle and take out everyone not named "Goku, Vegeta, Frieza or Jiren" without anything of interest happening.
Because that's what we need is less story-telling and more rushing to the end boss.
yaaaaaaaaaaay.
You are aware that Toyotaro is not trying to be different than the anime right? Im pretty sure that most of the events that are not on the manga were invented by Toei, I do believe that (even tho is kinda rush) Toyotaro has better understanding of power scaling and go straight to the point, don’t forget that since childhood we all loved dbz for the fights and punches and not the actual story
The manga is in a pretty big disadvantage since it comes months after everyone has seen the anime, yet has to follow the same plot. If there were no changes or very little changes, it would be pretty uninteresting, and the attempt to change the plot in a radical way is probably the reason to all the weird stuff we're seeing. If Toyotaro had bren allowed to make his own story that's separate from the anime's, I think the series would have a lot better plot
“Freeza finger blasts Toppo’s rocks to get him out”
😂🤣😂
Mike-Eze you can't tell me he didn't plan this
deericiousu
Spirit Gun
I thought the same thing soon as he said it and u can tell he had no idea what he just said lol
I think jiren leaving toppo and dypso to fall made sense because when jiren was about to knock out vegeta, they distracted them and goku saved vegeta due to that.... So in jiren's mind they are just holding him back
Out of his character. Its stated that jiren Will do anything to justice
Yeah u r right bt its also shown that he is overconfident and can beat goku and vegeta the strongest warriors of universe 7 easily on his own
@@geets3794 that dosnt matter because Universe 7 still has more fighters then pride troppers. That means with every second Universe 7 os close to victory. And now jiren is fighting Ui goku what will for sure take a lot of time
@@wojciechmazurk5468 That's Topppo, not Jiren.
@@AntonioCunningham in manga Jiren is all about justice toppo in manga is without personality . Read prev chapters
@7:47 _"cool moment where Frieza finger-blasts Toppo's box"..._
Frieza did *_what_*_ now? Come on now,_ Daniel. You tried to _sneak_ it in, but we *_all_* heard it. You can't just _stroll_ right past that description like you _didn't_ just say what you said man. *at-least* acknowledge it w/ a _"pause"_ or _something!_ I *_refuse_* to believe that you didn't realize you just described Lord Frieza getting to 3rd base, via stimulating a *giant walrus man's eager vagina.* Admit it.
Goddamn this one requires a big fat Lenny:
*( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)*
He said rocks, at least I heard that
_Ooohhh..._ Shit. well that makes *way* more sense! You're right. My bad, people.
_Still_ though... - _usually_ the phrase *_finger blasting_* is _pretty_ much *universally* reserved to *1* _pretty specific_ action, executed in a *much, **_much_* different manner, than what is being described here. So, as _Sterling Archer_ would point out, *_"Phrasing!"_* is key, & i'm surprised we didn't get a _"pause..."_ from Geekdaddy-D on that 1. I'm sure i'm not the _only _*_1_* whose mind went *straight* to picturing Frieza doing to Toppo, what i used to do to girls i took the movies in 9th grade, right guys?
Also, some talented weirdo needs to _rule 34_ that shit *ASAP.*
Even if he did say Box instead of "rocks" and so what?
Toyotaro rushed the entire arc to the point that even the main characters are caught off guard by pacing.
Also both Toppo and Dyspo deserved better.
Lloyd Irving While true that is not not the point I was referring too.
You say Toppo and Dyspo deserve better because they did more stuff in the anime, remember this is a different version.
Tricko No I say they deserve better due their importance amongst the Pride Troopers and as characters in the Universal Survival Arc as a whole for Universe 11. Besides Jiren of course. Toriyama did not personally create them to be throw away characters.
Plus if you are going to constantly atate that Toppo is a G.O.D. candidate and maje him look overwkemingly powerful in the manga version of his debut against Goku, then we expect to see that followed up upon.
Not just mentioned offhandily only to then forget about just because the mangaka rushed the storyline in order to get the conclusion faster. Character development or tension be damned.
People wanting to get the filler fights out of the way neglect any soul or charm, and also it's like there are 80 fighters and yet people just want to see 5 fighters fight due to strength alone? Really?
VEGETA IS WEAKER THAN MASTER ROSHI CONFIRMED
lol
Roshi didn't land a single hit and got one shotted...
Tyler Riddle WOOSH
@@jelloistasty Roshi was holding back.
@@assef7040 I get that it's a joke it's just stupid (edit, not even that it's stupid, just so exaggerated that I dont see the humor in satire since its just obviously not true and nothing in this manga even implied such a wild interpretation)
Also 17's sacrifice was way more emotional in the anime then it was in the manga. I didn't get why 18 didn't care about 17 sacrificing himself. 17 self destructed for nothing unlike the anime where he self destructed to save goku and vegeta, the manga made it seem pointless.
Huh... Kinda weird for the manga to mention Toppo's GoD candidacy only to do nothing with it. lol
"But that's good writing because something something filler."
-Manga Fanboy response
Lloyd Irving “ignored most of the arc” you mean like how gohan was only relevant for one chapter in the manga???lmao while in the anime gohan had several episodes just for himself
What were they supposed to do? It is never stated that GoD is a transformation, also Toppo already was using divine ki back at the exhibiton match and defeated Goku.
I don't see the point on having that Toppo's transformation that actually did nothing and leaded to nowhere
"Giving side characters strong transformations is a waste of time. Just keep that to main characters and rush to the final fight leaving story elements behind= Amazing writing " - Manga fanboys
I was really looking forward to GoD Toppo and ultra speed Dyspo. Wow
That's quite a disappointment.
Yeah too bad
I new GoD Toppo most likely wouldn't be in it, but I was surprised Dyspo didn't do anything.
Right? I don't get people who say the manga version of ToP is better than the anime version.
Yeah we did get dragged out moments with characters like Ribrianne and had scaling that didn't make much sense but at least we had epic moments like GoD Toppo, light speed Dyspo and 17 "sacrificing" himself to save Goku and Vegeta
@@videocreator970 Bro some of the manga scaling makes no sense as well. Like Kefla should be muchhh stronger than Goku, but she's equal to Gohan. It doesn't make any sense.
Toyotaro put himself in a corner with UI being just something Goku can transform into
because he's gonna try and "explain" something in the end but it will fail like most of the "explanations" he has done
Oni Master thats still whack lol
uhm no he didn't transform because he was "upset" in the Anime Goku went UI for the first time because he broke his shell while not wanting to die to the negative energy of the Spirit Bomb
and then he didn't want to give up and went UI against Kefla
and then the last time he went UI against Jiren he was thinking about everyone not just 17 he was thinking about Jiren's trust issues, 17 sacrificing himself, Vegeta doing everything he can to stop Jiren from winning and the thought about everyone that is cheering him on
sorry but compared to those 3 from the Anime this manga version is trash
YassineBiggie That’s fucking head cannon. The negative energy of the spirit bomb? Like what
@@naturalbiggie Spirit Bomb has no negative energy, the technique literally TARGETS evil intention of opponents that's why Gohan was able to deflect it easily.
i wonder if people have actually watched the fucking episode
WHIS LITERALLY STATED IT
the negative energy was created when it turned into that black hole like bro pay attention
i like how Omen has been depicted(even more so in the manga)as a “mental state”,and how goku chose not to get angry because that would have broken the technique that he needs most, it feels like he’s evolving as a person rather then having another transformation.
and while the problem of it being “too easy” to achieve for him is a possibility, i can see them making it so goku is unable to set his mind back in to it, unable to let his mind drift naturally again, a tournament like this might have been the only thing that could have brought that out of him,who knows.
No god of destruction Toppo.
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Toyotaro needs a shorter leash.
Dyspo and Toppo’s elimination was really lame tbh
Also Goku can just turn on Ultra Instinct without being beaten to near death?
TBH it makes more sense that Goku would be able to do it naturally. It's just a way of fighting. All you really have to do is get into the mindset.
jamaine gardner That make ui just like any other form and not special anymore. In the anime, ui just appear when goku is near dead and that make things much more interesting. I hope its not getting overused in the manga
+BraveBlitz
"Yeah but its okay because like every other character that's not Goku and Jiren they don't matter, its okay not to have story-telling as long as we can rush to the final fight"
- Manga Fanboy
It's not a bad decision, goku felt uneasy about 17 death and goku had more reason to fight for so him getting ui was fine.
Do what isn't fine is how the anime just said goku couldn't use it, like goku needs more plot armor.
Yeah instead we need UI to be another Super Saiyan form so he's goddmodding at will!
Intro is epic😍
It looks like a kid made it but yeah cool!
Ohohohohohohoho
He didn't make it just so you know.
This was made a while ago.
Its cringe AF
Vegeta's "evolution" was lack luster in the manga. It lacked fanfare and the manga made it seem like he only transformed out of jealousy for Goku which tbh, is a trope that his character should have grown out at this point in time but whatever. The explanation for what it can do, like abilities or drawbacks were nonexistent and we are just left to assume "ooh different aura means he's stronger now"and his declaration of "Oh I never had a teacher and I'm better when I solo train" reeks of hypocrisy especially when Whis and Beerus are in the stands and without them he wouldn't even know what Super Saiyan Blue was or be at the level of power he is currently at which makes Vegeta come off a spoiled and not humbled. I love the action panels that Toyotaro does, it's undeniable that he does a great job but...he crams so much into one page that it makes it hard for the images to breathe at times. And the reaction to 17's sacrifice comes off as phoned in and not genuine.
For how bad the manga has been for the last couple chapters. I enjoy the way Jiren (character) is being presented overall over the anime. And Vegeta not going the U.I route was reasonable.
Nathan Paleafei I don’t see that much of a difference between the character
@@amc2153 Yes,at least in anime Jiren isn't a hypocrite who screaming about justice and then betrays his comrades
Вова Барс I agree, sure in the manga he does let toppo and dyspo fall. But I look at it as “you guys are beat, I’ll handle the rest of this fight.” Kind of like a Superman to Justice League type roll. Dyspo even comments, if they did keep fighting they’d only hold him back from letting loose at this point in the tournament.
@@nathanpaleafei3564 still,i would belive if anime Jiren done it,but for Manga Jiren is kind out of a character
You forgot to mention how terrible Android 18 was written in this chapter. Android 17 was talking about his family before he was about to sacrifice himself and saying "Please look after my family," and 18 was like "Yeah sure whatever." She had no feeling whatsoever, no reaction to her brother dying. That's freaking terrible.
Ikr, it's like 18 didn't care about 17.
18 had like zero personality in the manga version of Super. Never fought with Krillin, got ringed out without any glory, and just didn't care that her brother was sacrificing himself. Sure, people bring up "we got Dragon Balls, 17 will brought back to live," but still this make 18 look terrible.
What is sleep?
DuoPersona101
A curse.....
They should make the ending different than Anime
they wont tho but i agree
Yeah. They should make jiren win
I so wish jiren would win.
Or the universes stay erased
What if Goku Vegeta and Freeza knockout Jiren with them,I know its not gonna happen btw :(
When will we get Berserk Majin Ultra instinct Super Saiyan 4 god blue ascended fusion kaioken x100?
That'll be when they make Dragon Ball Infinity
When Gohan and Tien will be relevant again
Give heros a minute lol
Next week *confirmed*
Next chapter probably
for me 17 sacerfice was just stupid in the Manga.
he was just blowing himself up for nothing. In the Anime he saved Goku and Vegeta with his sacrefice and at least, 18 cared!
and that Toppo and Dyspo elimination was stupid too.
The art was excellent in this episode, I liked the team up against Jiren, but I hated how Toppo and Dyspo were wasted.
Jiren's explanation that he adjusts his power to his opponents so he doesn't waste energy resolves the complaints about his fight with Roshi
...But then again, Mike brought up the ultimate counterargument to this in his "Why Roshi makes less sense than you thought" video (that he took down I think). You *_can't_* suppress your reaction time. Even if he suppressed himself, Jiren's so much stronger that his reaction time would've allowed him to see *everything* Roshi did.
No. That was dumb.
Eggsdayz pure logic
jamaine gardner
You are wrong, they can't just suppress their strength, they suppress their ki, so their speed decreases too.
Just to even fight at the speeds of a GoD like Jiren does you'd have to have reflexes on par with your speed and strength. Reflexes are entirely instinctual and *can't* be suppressed. Jiren's own innate reaction speed would've made Roshi look like a statue compared to him. It simply doesn't make sense in any scenario for a character like Jiren to get taken by surprise by Roshi, a character who should be Namek saga tier at the absolute best.
It at least makes sense for Beerus vs Vegeta because at no point do we see Beerus even attempt to fight back before Vegeta gets tuckered out.
I thought it was awesome that Jiren let Toppo and Dyspo fall. It goes along with the theme, that Jiren loses because he relies only on his own strength, while Goku has all his friends supporting him, which has brought him this far.
John Lee Exactly!
John Lee
Agreed
Wait so, EVERYONE else is eliminated already!!?
How many did Kale knock out?
Yes that's why you should read every chapter.
Kuribohchaos8 3 or 4 universes, can’t remember
She knocked out 43 fighters.
Alot.
Manga is honestly just a lot worse compared to the anime in most aspects, certainly some good things that are better than the anime but the majority of things aren’t.
RoronoaZoroUltimateBadass Honestly as much as I like the manga you got a good point. The fights are too fast and not as crazy epic. Even though it's plots are good, this one goes to the anime.
True but I still liked this chapter it's surprisingly better than his other chapters.
Almost everything about this arc in particular was done so much worse than the anime.
Most aspects? Like what?
How about stop comparing them, it's been Damm gud each time
To all of you who is saying that the characters are “de-hyped” remember that Toriyama simply gives both Toei and Toyotarou a simple script, all the hype that Toei creates is not necessary the real story, actually it’s pretty accurate to say that Toyotarous version is closer to what Toriyama had in mind and there is no denying that this Goku (and every character really) are WAY more like DBZ and not the stupid guys that the anime of dbs showed us
Somebody who gets it....
Exactly, I can't imagine Toriyama giving every damn character in the tournament random power ups and transformations, that didn't feel like Dragon Ball at all, it was too over the top and ridiculous. Toriyama always prefers more simple transformations, Toei just kept showing new power ups every episode to sell more toys. The whole Dragon Ball Super anime didn't feel like Dragon Ball to me, specially because of the art style and censorship.
No it's not closer. Because we know how Tori is. It's just Toyo failing to fill it with life what the script and plot outlines say..that's his failing. Not toriyamas intent
Diego Barreto
Except the characters, Toyotaro got everything else wrong.
Alert at 3:40am? Sure, I'll watch.
Just when I thought this night was gonna continue to be boring, you post a video.
Thank you my dude
Who do you think is going to hold Broly off while Goku and Vegeta fuse?
Freeza
Vegito Blue Pikkon
Farmer with a shotgun
Should be Gohan
Jiren
Long time fan, great commentary and insight. Would like to see more on manga vs anime diffefence videos. Stay up.
A bit disappointed that you can’t put the manga panels in the video.
This review was way more humble Geekdom. Thank you. Your the man.
Just when I was gonna go to sleep lol love the channel Geekdom !!
Well, no God of Destruction Toppo. That and Whis looked at Vegeta like "Boy I taught you Ki Control."
Bad, bad and double bad Goku impact of changing to UI In the Anime is Way better than this manga version. He'll give Vegeta UI in the next chapter why don't you Toyotaru.
Geekdon 101: Frieza finger blasts Toppo’s rocks
Abridged Anderson : context
17.....so upset with the lack of Emotion in this chapter, or rather that scene. Didn't even get the First damage on Jiern. Damn it, I biggest complaint. I get why, just a bit bummed out is oh.
Also, when 17 blows up the ring and we see whats left. There are rather big chunks off to the far side. Im assuming thats where he is at. Also I liked 18s reaction to what he was about to do. She knew there was no stopping him. I still prefer her anime counter part because, at the time. She had to watch her brother die twice and not be able to do anything about it both times. Still good though.
I'm pretty sure 18 knew he wasn't going to die. He knows his brother well enough to know he wouldn't just pointlessly selfdestruct
I just want to say welcome back bro. Glad you got your channel back 💯
....Pause.
C'mon Geekdom, you gotta say no homo!
Geekdom101 are you going to show us the manga pics like you did the last time with Dragon Ball Super manga Chapter 39?
Resolve this issue!!!! Dude cmon japan geekdom101 is the god of dragon ball reviews. We need him!
Alexander G lol
@christian L I said god of dragon ball reviews. Not just god of dragon ball. Looks like you got a little ahead of yourself when reading this lol.
soulja916
Bruh........don’t self-project
Armando Gexcior what?
soulja916
You don’t know what self-projecting means ?
10:30 You made an error here the Grand Priest actually said that *Universe 7* won't be penalized against his self destruction because there wasn't any rule against this so for that instance only they won't be penalized.
Jiren is STUPID in this chapter more teammates for you =Success for you in the end.
Paul Smith
That's cause you don't understand Jiren's CHARACTER!
Andre Bryant
That's the point, Jiren is arrogant right now but Goku will change him.
Where can I find the source for super saiyan blue evolution being the anime's idea and not toriyama's?
Toyotaro’s manga lacks a continuous flow between the panels like Toriyama but the art is still good.
I subscribed too!
What if Ultra Instinct isn’t actually that fast because it was talking about their home planets?
What if Jiren is actually faster but his home planet made him slower?
What if Jiren was never that fast but Gokus home planet made him really slow?
You never know.
I really don’t want to take the DBS manga as seriously as the DBZ manga information wise. It’s so drastically different
DBZ Manga??
WTF?!
Whilst I didn't like how they treated Toppo and Dyspo here, as a Freeza fan I'm pretty happy: seeing him at almost full health and stamina by the time he's reached this stage in the tounrament makes me hopeful that he'll have bigger role than he had in the anime prior to episode 131(you know 'cause in the anime he got wrecked by Hakaishin Toppo). Also, I'd like to point out 2 things that you missed/glossed over:
1 - The "evolved" SSB Vegeta was actually beating Jiren for a decent portion of the chapter until Jiren took shit more seriously.
2 - According to 17, Whis and Jiren, Freeza was stalling when he fought Jiren. In fact, what gave this away to Jiren was the moment Freeza mentioned that he wasn't fighting at his full power (Which also made Jiren want to end things quickly before it became a little more problematic)
Can jiren even sense Ki i don’t think there’s any evidence that he can or direct comments that he can. So maybe that’s why he didn’t shoot the rock Goku and Vegeta where hiding behind. You could chalk up his reactions to things he didn’t directly see to spatial awareness, anticipation, and instinct. Any opinions on my theory Geekdom?
Man, I love that Intro. Please make more. Keep up the good work. You're the only person who can be trusted !!
Nah that was accurate to Jirens character, he doesn’t mess with the weak. Toppo and Dyspo were more than disappointing in the manga especially compared to the anime. Jiren was cocky but he doesn’t fuck with the weak too not in his character to help them.
I'm pretty sure there was one point in the anime where Jiren actually saved Dyspo.
Chapter 40 is what we needed for this arc in the manga, it was a huge step up from last chapter and kept me entertained. Can't wait for the next one!
Also ssjbe vegeta wasn't in this chapter, Vegeta's power just skyrocketed making his ssjb form even stronger and making him stronger than toppo plus grand preist, whis or anyone would have stated that vegeta got a new form.
Ethan BlitzHD Yeah he just exploded in anger like when Beerus hit Bulma or when Cell killed Trunks
The omen scene he just watch 17 blow himself up and he was probably pissed off at that and activated the form
Jiren *SMASHES* all
It all make sense....
No wonder Goku not confirmed for Smash.
They wanted Jiren this whole time!
Frieza "finger blasts Toppo's rocks"...
I liked this chapter
I don't mind that Jiren didn't help Toppo and Dyspo, they were pretty much already beaten. Dyspo said he was practically defeated by 17 and Toppo couldn't really defend himself, so I believe Dyspo when he said they'd get in Jiren's way
I also thought Goku becoming Sign UI was pretty cool because he was reacting to 17 dying but controlled his anger.
Jiren letting Dyspo and Toppo fall, i saw it as him putting them out of his way, sure they could have stayed “somewhere in a corner”, but Freeza(Frieza) and 17 would have kept attempted to ring them out, (cuz why wouldn’t they). Jiren letting them go, is him saving his energy and not wasting his time, avoiding any “unnecessary moves”.
(plus, he’s been confident from the start that he’ll be the last one standing, so the number of fighters remaining doesn’t matter to him, in his mind, he’s (and he must be) capable enough on his own, to protect universe 11)
Tankyou bro best youtuber master media and geekdom 😍😘😍😍
"Frieza finger blasts toppos rocks" bro idk if you realized you said it 😂
so no GoD Toppo, Vegeta does exactly what in the anime he says he would never do, and throws everything away to get stronger. I disagree about the fights, thought they were drawn hastily and were boring. Jiren's character is stupid, one line about his master is not enough. Dyspo and Toppo could have fought vegeta.. but I guess we need vegeta and goku vs Jiren- or not, the chapter ends with Goku ultra instinct and vegeta just standing there.. okay. Boring manga, boring art, boring story. I'm sure the goku jiren fight will look like ass too.
really, goku v kefla, hit, gohan, last fight between jiren and the u7 three, vegeta vs toppo, vegetto vs zamasu. You can't tell me you weren't more satisfied when you heard "ATASHI NO- KACHI DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" followed by the "hueh????" and then goku blowing that entire fucking rock mound away.
Mr Bubbles Finally someone that understands that we love db because of the amazing fights and to be honest we haven’t seen much of that in dbs, the manga at least show us epic fights and a serious goku just like old times
@@diegobarreto3010 every fight is off screen or a few punches and a final attack. goku uses hakai against zamasu and never again. ass pull that has no meaning.
@@deadrock1678 ah yes and the manga fights have impact... and theyre totally not skipped rushed or boiled down to punch punch okay next scene. did we even read the same manga?
compare this shit with berserk or even fights in dbz manga and tell me they dont look crap and the manga is great. toyo is a hack who actually is given a lot of breathing room in these arcs but rather than writing something good or drawing something good he just goes "okay this happened lets move on to the next thing" it is a tickbox exercise with no meaning or passion.
Mr Bubbles
Both versions have different interpretations of the same characters, Ribrianne is the best example, so ep 110 made sense in its own way just like how the Manga does.
man, im sick you cant show images now i actually gotta read the
manga
is no one going to point out that a SSB level fighter like Toppo got smacked around by base Frieza (4th form whatever). WTH ?!
He was weak after the fight.
@@Azazel_88 he wasn't so weak that he couldn't compete with SSB Vegeta. Vegeta had to power up to blow him away. so that's not a good enough excuse really, I just think it was a lack of foresight from the author.
4th form is base. The others are power downs
I wonder if we will get a different version of Jiren's back story. We didn't get much about Jiren's master in the anime but now we get some more information about who he was and what he taught Jiren
My guy, I'm sorry, but there's not a single change in this chapter that's better. I honestly can't see how you can even try to make that argument.
i felt very engaged with the video when looking at the manga with you. I never did this before lol. I'm no manga fan. I prefer the anime, but the art is pretty good. I thought the Super anime was continuing when I clicked the video. I read the title very fast my bad XD. I can't wait for Broly movie
Everyone in the manga are so freaking WEAK. Toppo not having a GoD form also depowers Vegeta
Very happy for you man ,keep your head high and don't let this all get you down.
This makes Toppo beating Goku at the exibition pointless since he does even less in the manga and doesn't get to show his God of Destruction powers.
3:20 in and haven't seen a single panel yet :(
I now see we are getting no panels :(
He can't use panels until he gets cleared. They were giving him stikes and shit down his page for a bit. So until he gets cleared this is how it will be
I love the Manga. I know folks have issues with it. And the issues are justified. I'd never debate it. But DB having flaws has never been news to me. Thus I have a good time reading this.
Exactly
It's all good before Chapter 38 that chapter and 39 and 40 are trash. If they rewrite those chapters I will probably be good with the manga
Agreed
You do a tremendous amount of good for this franchise. I hope this can be resolved amicably.
SOOOOOOO Goku can just go UI anytime he wants now? LAME! Its just ANOTHER Ssj form at this point, only its op. If he can just "do it" then that absolutely kills ANY sort of tension for the future. Its like looking at the Goku vs Majin Vegeta fight, *KNOWING* Goku was holding back and he could have just used SSj3 anytime. At least in the anime (even though it makes less sense) he cant willingly activate it and Ui could be used as a sort of randomizer in the future.
Maby the first two arks of a new series, we never see UI, even when Goku is near death. (Cause his limiter is geeting harder and harder to break) the third arc we could see UI Omen for a fight buuuuut its not what kills the villian. And just loosely repeat that pattern (depending on the amount of arcs) until the *FINAL* arc. THEN, we could see MUI at the final battle or something. That way UI as a whole is still "special" because its not overused and predictable!
I totally agree bro
We should of got Super Saiyan 4
don't be that guy kuru, we don't need GTards...they need to die already so we can focus on CANON STUFF.
I think he can go Ultra Instinct Omen easily, but when he achieves the perfect UI (the one with grey hair), he won't be able to use it again that easily.
@@tricko8000 thats mostly what I ment. I just REALLY dont want UI to be like SS Blue where it doesnt even feel strong cause everyone can fight him in it or either beats him. EVEN SSJ3 AND GOD are praised and looked at as strong because they aren't overused too much.
I think this is ok. thanks, it is like a podcast which is good enough for me. Thanks Geekdom
20th
Epic intro
I am glad your channels green again
Good to see a new upload 👍
So.. Goku can just turn Ultra Instinct on like a normal form? That's.. That makes no sense. Toyotaro, what are you doing? Do you KNOW What Ultra Instinct is?
I'm so glad you were able to get those copywrite strikes off and now you're able to do what you love bro..... Keep up the great work broski ✊🏾✊🏾
yay, late Night geekdom
8:13 I feel like the video was cut
That intro🔥🤙🏻
Thank you geek, your work is greatly appreciated man 👍
No sleep for geekdom 💪
He let them fall because he doesnt like relying on ppl remember? Ppl let him down so he relies on his own power. From what toppo said it sounded like the plan was to not need to use jiren or get in his way and they did so jiren bodied their asses lol
Worst chapter ever.Toppo isnt G.O.D and 17 is useless here.
We don't know if 17 will end up useless or not, the arc isn't over yet. The arc could have a different twist than in the anime, for example Goku being unable to beat Jiren before the time runs out, but then 17 emerges and Universe 7 wins from having more fighters remaining
Exantius E
So no Goku and Frieza teamwork? it will be trash then.
@@ryukishi07thecreator70 Maybe Goku and Frieza team up an triple-eliminate themselves with Jiren like in the anime, then they wonder what they should do if it's a tie and the GP says "Oh but there's still one fighter remaining" and 17 reveals himself and gets the win. That's how they should've done it in the anime imo, save the revelation right into the end
@@GeteMachine nah Gohan sucks
I hope 17 is really dead, unlike stupid anime's move where he magically appeared because plot demands.
Glad you're in the clear finally!
The way Toppo and Dyspo were eliminated and pushed back by Final Form Frieza is HORRIBLE in this chapter. It made me actually sick! Not Golden Frieza but Final Form frieza. GTFO
Goku being able to transform into UI is also BS.
Chapter was horrible!
I agree, the only thing that I could think of that explains that is that Toppo was exhausted from his fight with Vegeta, and Dyspo exhausted from 17. But the chapter has other problems too besides that.
Well all he really did was blow up some floating rocks. Toppo and by extension Dyspo were eliminated by Vegeta, Frieza just helped a little
Lmao. He actually has to learn a state of no mind.
@@exantiuse497 Nope. It was Frieza
New intro and Jiren is coming to Smash?! Best Video XD
Geekdom has really become bias against the manga a stupid move is beating your only threat not eliminating him and then take a nap for half the tournament
“Freeza fingerblasts Toppo’s rock” PAUSE