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Very cool project. Definitely upgrading my little bait bucket. Even if wears out air pump prematurely, I can get another one (stow in my truck) and repeat. Thanks!!!
You would be surprised at how long these little motors will last even at this voltage. I have never worn one out and have run it for days on end. What actually does wear out (but also takes a long time) is the little plastic pump.
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Had been wanting to modify my bubble box. Those D-cell don't last long and the air bubbles are weak. Now I can modify mine and add a solar charger to it as well. Great video! Thank you!
Ok so using 3.7v D cells worked great. Amazing performance and pretty equal to my 12v bubbler. I used a 4 inch round stone and the extra voltage really made it perform. Time will tell how long it lasts using 3.7 volts but for now it really cranks out the bubbles.
Interesting project. The buck converter can easily and efficiently convert 12V down to whatever you want to use on the bubbler so you could just use the trolling motor battery.
I'm not good at electrical stuff but what if I sodered a wire to the moter that had a HDMI plug at the other end that plugs into a HDMI charging port on my boat. Do you think this would work out or too much juice?
@@thejungleexplorer Thank you. I just don't want to fry the motor. I'm surprised that Frabill doesn't offer an option to plug into a HDMI as it's a common point of power supply now. Who has a cigarette lighter now?
When removing the stone from water leave pump running for a few minutes afterward to keep the minerals in the water from drying inside the stone and eventually plugging up the air passages making it less efficient over time . Let the pump push the water and minerals out before shutting off . A trick i learned years ago that keeps my pump pushing plenty of air for several years . Just sayin
Great idea, I would not set if to go too high on the voltage to save your motor. It's a mechanical part that wears over time. For me, about 2 volts would be enough.
It would be a lot simpler to just buy a 5v air pump, designed for a fish tank, then supply power from any standard lithium power bank. I'm working on several different lithium-based solutions, and one that uses a waterproof 12v - 3v buck converter. It allows you to go straight from any 12v power source and run the pump at the correct voltage for days, maybe weeks, depending on the size of the battery. For anyone using one of these in a boat, it's a no-brainer. In the start of your video, you have the batteries installed correctly for this particular DC motor, which is probably only rated for 1.5v. Most of these little bubblers come with a 3v motor and are designed for the batteries to be installed in series. The 3v motors often have a high/low setting, which basically halves the amperage being drawn. I would look for the specs on that motor before running it at 3+ volts for very long.
Can u add a link for the parts you are talking about to allow me to hook into my toggle switch panel on 12V and reduce it to the 2.5 or 3V at the pump motor. Please it would be greatly appreciated 🙏🙏
@@brianpierson7708 - Search for "SMAKN DC/DC Converter 12V Step Down to 3V/3A Power Supply Module" on Amazon. Make sure your aerator runs on 3V power before you buy this. I have discovered that the cheapest ones run on 1.5 volts. The easy way to tell is if your D cell batteries are supposed to be in series or parallel. If in series, that's 3.2v, nominal. If in parallel, that's 1.6v, nominal.
Running a 6v or 12v rechargeable battery at a low setting still gives you a ton more run time. Great video. Now, I would like to find a way to run this off my car using a 12v socket or usb.
Curious if you configured the setup to run in series instead of parallel like they have you wouldn’t need the voltage converter but it would run through the batteries twice as fast. Couple extra batteries has got to be lighter than a lead cell.
I like this. You did a awesome job and video. I normally watch a video five mins and turn it. But this was a really good video. I subscribe!! Thank you again!!
How much voltage can the little motor withstand. I know they cant handle 12 volt for more a few seconds. Cause I have hooked em up to 12 volt batteries before. Just to see if they would run and how long.
@@thejungleexplorer lol it’s a joke. You say you are De-soldering something in the video. You know… taking it loose… So I ask where to buy D-Solder. I can find plumbing solder and pipe solder. Where’s the D solder? Lol
I keep bait in a five gallon bucket for days without changing anything on one of these bubbler's I just change out the water once a day and running that little motor that fast will kill it
Truth be told I figured this out on my own because I connected a 18v drill battery to the baby bubbles to see if it worked because I didn’t have 2 AAA BATTERIES and let me tell you it ram like a champ it sounded like it was going to blow up
Great vid thank you! I now know I can run a bait bucket with a m18 battery that is step down with that device . If only the pump was quieter that thing is loud as hell lol
Was very interesting. But some small engines like that cheap peice. Will blow out within a day for revving like a Nascar engine, when it isnt. But I did learn a lot. Thanks!
I have not one burn out yet, so I can't tell you. I have one that I have used for almost two years like this. Many people assume that the motor can only run at 1.5 volts. Truth is, DC motors can function at a wide variable of voltage. I would expect the plastic pump system to give before the motor.
@@thejungleexplorer I agree. I wonder if greasing the pump assembly might help prolong the life. I sprayed the electrical contacts of mine with golf cart battery protector spray I had laying around as well. I have a Hush Bubbler and the only weak point I see is the strength of the pump. It may be overkill but for the $ they ought to use higher voltage batteries and thicker wires. Even going to a rechargeable lithium setup with an external USB plug would do wonders for its modernized utility.
The truth is that DC is not that precise. All DC motors have a large voltage variance. Sure, if you ran this little motor at 12 or 24 volta it would burn out almost instantly. But it is totally fine with 2 or 3 volts. As if yet, I have not seen any motors burn out. I learned this from a friend that has been doing it for years, and has never had a motor burn out.
Cool project only downside is you will burn your pump up real quick if you run it past like 2 volts for to long and then you will need to buy a better pump that can withstand higher voltage for longer periods of time
How long will the pump last like this? Looks like a awesome idea and even if it does destroy the pump after a while would still be worth the trouble! Im used to throwing these pumps away after a year anyway
Not in my experience. It is more likely to shorten the life of the plastic pumping mechanism. But, in my experience, I have runn the pump for days on end like this and it suffered no I'll effect.
I followed you all the way on this and it will not reduce voltage output, the info with the buck converter says this option will be bypassed if both input an output share the same ground. It does work but at full voltage. Any thoughts?
Something seems off. The is no such thing as a GROUND in DC electricity. A ground is only used with AC electricity. With DC you have Negative, and the Negative is shared in all DC systems. I think you are reading incorrect information somewhere. As far as your situation goes, it sounds like you may have a defective buck converter.
electronics is a lil out of my depth, but I think you are right I'm sending it back for another, I'll not give this up! Thank you for your great video and your quick response!
Have no idea. DC motors are different than AC motors. They are voltage variable. This is why they are used in things that need to operate at variable speeds from slow to fast. Things like cordless power tools and electric cars.
@@thejungleexplorer no problem. It really does work like a charm besides the comic relief. After winter I end up sick starting my bubbler. Had same one 15 or so years. But I just keep fixing it. Finally had to glue my diaphragm with. Gorilla glue and got it going one more time this spring. Just ordered a rechargeable unit for aquariums to use for minnows. We see how that goes.
Not sure if someone asked as I am on mobile phone seeing this video. What is the effect of using it on 4.5 A on the motor? Will it eventually burn? What about battery life effect?
I found that any voltage over 3v did not increase production. 2.5v seem to be the happy point. The motor may be able to handle 4.5 volts, but the tiny pump cannot function properly at that velocity.
I don't know if anybody has mentioned this but you can purchase an adjustable regular and a couple of resistors for under $1 and save yourself a ton off that fancy adjustable power supply.
Yea I just put 1860 batteries in my bubble box, runs the same way and have to do no modifications… 18650s just fit a little tight. I only do it if I really need to keep something important alive because I fear it will blow up the cheap motor.
I have found that anything beyond 2.5 volts does not really produce much more air and stresses the motor. 18659 batteries are rated at 3.5 volts nominal, but have a charge of 4 volts when fully charged. That is way more voltage than what I demonstrated in this video. Another thing about 18650 batteries is that they are not all the same length. Their length varies according to their capacity rating. There can be up to a 1/4" difference from on to another. But it is interesting to hear you have used them. Thanks for telling me this.
Thats great except Ive rebuilt these small motors and whats going to eventually happen shortly is that the brushes in the motor are going to finally wear out which is why this entire concept is an expensive temporary fix.
Hi. Thanks for the question. I am not quite sure exactly what you are asking. The battery is a sealed 6v lead acid battery and can be stored just about anywhere. But because of the little voltage regulator that I showed how to install, you can use just about any battery source up to a 36 volta battery.
I usually carry my gear and bait pail with me while fishing. I was trying to solve for the added weight of the battery that you had chosen to use. I decided to get a portable battery pack used to charge a cell phone or a tablet. I also purchased a voltage regulator from your link in the video description. I wired her up and she powers on. The voltage shows 4.6 volts. The model regulator I received from Amazon was different than yours in that there are two slotted dials to regulate voltage and amps. My issue now is when turning the dial, it doesn’t increase or decrease the voltage. I just received a second unit from the seller to replace the first because I wasn’t sure if it was the part or something else. The replacement part has done the same thing as the first.
@@JCL2575 Thank you for letting me know this. Sometimes manufacturers change products after I place a link to a page. I have had no trouble with mine, but as you say, they are now selling a different model. I found this one that looks more similar to the one I got: amzn.to/38Dsef4 #ad. It has pretty good reviews, but that is not saying much because the one in my link has a better review rating than this one. That is a problem with Amazon.com reviews, if the seller changes the product model on the page, amazon keeps all the reviews from the previous models. When I am buying a product, I read the negative reviews on it. I look for consistency of failure or defects, not just the standard "I HATE this product" type of negative reviews. If I find several people that experienced the same problem with a product, that tells me there may be a design defect with it. There are lemons even with the best products, so just because something failed does not mean the whole line is bad, but if there is a pattern of failure, that is what you have to watch out for. I would send back the unit you have and get your money back, and try another unit from someone else. Obviously, there is a design flaw with the new model since you have two that acted the same way. There are many other models out there that do the exact same thing.
@@JCL2575 - You can buy a much smaller and simpler buck converter that takes a nominal input between 5v and 12v and gives you the option of whether to output 5v or 3.3v. They are used in laboratory test equipment.
Did it make a significant difference in the speed of the motor and the volume of bubbles when going from 1.5v alkaline batteries to 3.7v 186650? How is it holding up? I have lots of 18650s. How did you modify the battery compartment?
Yes it has more power and faster motor sound. 5 hours pass still running, not sure when will it stop. I added solder on the center for contact connection.
Depends. Most of these little motors work great when new but as the cheap plastic parts wear and get dirty, they start to bog down do to under voltage. The higher voltage makes them work more efficiently and may extend their life to a point. A lot of people don't realize that under voltage is typically harder on a DC motor than over voltage.
Obviously increasing the voltage on a D/C motor will increase its output. I dare you to run that device at level you showed in your demo for an extended period of time. That pump. All the parts connected ( connecting rod , etc.) Will fail in short order. Interesting concept though. By-the-way, I did call you out. Lol!
Theories are great, but the thing with theories is that they are just that. This pump is still functioning fine after a year. Now, will you be a man and do what is right?
LOL the motor can handle the voltage. But that little pump will burn up. That air pump has a piston. The Mr bubbles has a diaphragm. This could me a good hack if you use a pump that has a diaphragm.
I have not had the pump burn out ever. I mean, would expect that you would be right, but out of several of these that I and my buddies have done, we have not had one burn out yet.
I don't know what the rating is, but I have never had one burn out pushing it up to 3 volts. DC motors are not like AC motors. They can operate over a wide variety of voltages. The weakness here is the pump. Pushing it past 2.5 volts does not really give much more air.
@@thejungleexplorer I've done it to one of my little bubblers not long after I made my first comment, it works but I haven't tested it to see how long it running at those RPMs would hurt the motor.
Pretty cool gadget guy hack but it’s a portable bubble box!!! Who wants to go through all of that for a PORTABLE product that is cheap?? So cheap, in fact, that if you want more bubbles buy 3,4 or 5 bubble boxes. Who wants to haul around another power supply for a b box. I like the guys ingenuity but this is just a bit much for this product.
A friend of mine uses this technique to keep fish alive for days in a 120 quart ice chest in the back of his truck. The thing is, you can connect it to any power source, a 6v battery, a 12v battery, a car cigarette lighter. A phone charger in a wall outlet. Any DC power source from 3 to 36 volts.
Don't be fooled. There's a reason they only take 2 1.5vdc d size batteries. Sure you can get more power out of the motor by increasing the voltage. But you are reducing the life of the motor. Doesn't take much to burn those little motors out. Definitely a fun little project though.
You don’t need that damn stone. I just rubber band a sinker or a washer or something to the end of the air line. Problem solved. I’ve been using a$10 pump for about 5 years now no problems. Changed batteries once. Get rid of the stone.
Why not just buy a bigger aerator that uses a bigger battery. I paid 30 dollars for mine and hooked it to a motorcycle battery. It will run for like 30 plus hours on 1 charge
When you buy this unit it tells you how many gallons it will work with which is not many just buy a bigger bubbler because this is just a waste of time and fore someone with way to much time on his hands and just like dicking around with shit bug in the end after this thing melts down you will end up just buying the bigger one !
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Very cool project. Definitely upgrading my little bait bucket. Even if wears out air pump prematurely, I can get another one (stow in my truck) and repeat.
Thanks!!!
You would be surprised at how long these little motors will last even at this voltage. I have never worn one out and have run it for days on end. What actually does wear out (but also takes a long time) is the little plastic pump.
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Jungle Explorer I saw this on amazon and planning to buy it. does it comes with the tube and stone?
@@sokritlun1624 yes it does.
How long would it last if it was designed to work off of 1.5v? Would a fish tank air bubbler work better using a 110 converter? Just asking lol
@@thejungleexplorer is this only for 6 volts battery or can I use 12 volt as well?
Great video brother.
Had been wanting to modify my bubble box. Those D-cell don't last long and the air bubbles are weak. Now I can modify mine and add a solar charger to it as well. Great video! Thank you!
I wish there was higher level of "like" buttons because I kept hitting it as you increased the voltage LOL. Excellent job, sir.
Thank you. I am happy to hear that you enjoyed it.
Try using a disc stone too. They put out a lot of air. I like the 4 inch size.
Ok so using 3.7v D cells worked great. Amazing performance and pretty equal to my 12v bubbler. I used a 4 inch round stone and the extra voltage really made it perform. Time will tell how long it lasts using 3.7 volts but for now it really cranks out the bubbles.
Interesting project. The buck converter can easily and efficiently convert 12V down to whatever you want to use on the bubbler so you could just use the trolling motor battery.
I'm not good at electrical stuff but what if I sodered a wire to the moter that had a HDMI plug at the other end that plugs into a HDMI charging port on my boat. Do you think this would work out or too much juice?
You could do that. Most USBs output around 5 volts so it would work, but I found there to be no additional air production past 3 volts.
@@thejungleexplorer Thank you. I just don't want to fry the motor. I'm surprised that Frabill doesn't offer an option to plug into a HDMI as it's a common point of power supply now. Who has a cigarette lighter now?
When removing the stone from water leave pump running for a few minutes afterward to keep the minerals in the water from drying inside the stone and eventually plugging up the air passages making it less efficient over time . Let the pump push the water and minerals out before shutting off . A trick i learned years ago that keeps my pump pushing plenty of air for several years . Just sayin
Thanks for commenting
Brilliant!!!!! All this time I've been trashing them once they stopped work....THANK YOU SIR
Great idea, I would not set if to go too high on the voltage to save your motor. It's a mechanical part that wears over time. For me, about 2 volts would be enough.
It would be a lot simpler to just buy a 5v air pump, designed for a fish tank, then supply power from any standard lithium power bank. I'm working on several different lithium-based solutions, and one that uses a waterproof 12v - 3v buck converter. It allows you to go straight from any 12v power source and run the pump at the correct voltage for days, maybe weeks, depending on the size of the battery. For anyone using one of these in a boat, it's a no-brainer.
In the start of your video, you have the batteries installed correctly for this particular DC motor, which is probably only rated for 1.5v. Most of these little bubblers come with a 3v motor and are designed for the batteries to be installed in series. The 3v motors often have a high/low setting, which basically halves the amperage being drawn. I would look for the specs on that motor before running it at 3+ volts for very long.
Can u add a link for the parts you are talking about to allow me to hook into my toggle switch panel on 12V and reduce it to the 2.5 or 3V at the pump motor. Please it would be greatly appreciated 🙏🙏
@@brianpierson7708 - Search for "SMAKN DC/DC Converter 12V Step Down to 3V/3A Power Supply Module" on Amazon. Make sure your aerator runs on 3V power before you buy this. I have discovered that the cheapest ones run on 1.5 volts. The easy way to tell is if your D cell batteries are supposed to be in series or parallel. If in series, that's 3.2v, nominal. If in parallel, that's 1.6v, nominal.
Thank you for commenting Jason Broom!
Looks good . But Running that little motor that fast very long isn`t it going to come apart .
Most likely the little compressor will fail before the motor
Thank you for commenting Chuck Smith!
Running a 6v or 12v rechargeable battery at a low setting still gives you a ton more run time. Great video. Now, I would like to find a way to run this off my car using a 12v socket or usb.
@@mjcavender1230 I soldered a usb cable to mine and connected a car charger to a Milwaukee M12 battery.
Does the lid close with that sitting in there?
Great idea but that pump will not survive very long with the added voltage.
Mine just melted
Thanks for commenting
I just swapped out the D batteries and wired 1 AA battery to the motor and switch and works perfect
Curious if you configured the setup to run in series instead of parallel like they have you wouldn’t need the voltage converter but it would run through the batteries twice as fast. Couple extra batteries has got to be lighter than a lead cell.
Yes you could do that as well with a little soldering. But I have ways found the battery bays on these thing to be problematic to begin with.
Jungle Explorer didn’t think about that will have to use your Set-Up! Great video!
I like this. You did a awesome job and video. I normally watch a video five mins and turn it. But this was a really good video. I subscribe!! Thank you again!!
Thank man. I appreciate it.
You're a genius 👍
Thank you for commenting Checkmate. I am very happy to hear that you enjoyed the video.
How much voltage can the little motor withstand. I know they cant handle 12 volt for more a few seconds. Cause I have hooked em up to 12 volt batteries before. Just to see if they would run and how long.
Thank you for commenting Terry Webb!
Very interesting, but how long will the pump last at the increased speed. We have problems with the pump dying. Any suggestions. PB
I have never had one burn out.
Dude that’s awesome!!
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That’s great man! Thanks for sharing. Amazing
Where can I buy 7:22 D Solder? I found pipe solder.
Thank you for commenting David! I am sorry, I do not know how to answer this question.
@@thejungleexplorer lol it’s a joke. You say you are De-soldering something in the video. You know… taking it loose…
So I ask where to buy D-Solder. I can find plumbing solder and pipe solder. Where’s the D solder? Lol
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Will the cover shut and seal?
No. The cover is not waterproof, unfortunately.
I keep bait in a five gallon bucket for days without changing anything on one of these bubbler's I just change out the water once a day and running that little motor that fast will kill it
Thank you for commenting W Harris!
Truth be told I figured this out on my own because I connected a 18v drill battery to the baby bubbles to see if it worked because I didn’t have 2 AAA BATTERIES and let me tell you it ram like a champ it sounded like it was going to blow up
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Awesome video. I'm in the process of building a 120qt bait tank. This video helps me out a lot.
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How long will that little motor run before the brushes burn up?
About a hour or so til meltdown. Lol
never had one melt
Great vid thank you! I now know I can run a bait bucket with a m18 battery that is step down with that device . If only the pump was quieter that thing is loud as hell lol
This is quite cool, but adding a second and third stone would be easier and probably more effective.
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Was very interesting. But some small engines like that cheap peice. Will blow out within a day for revving like a Nascar engine, when it isnt. But I did learn a lot. Thanks!
It's been over a year and it still works fine.
I hardly ever use an aerator for bull & tiger minnows. now for shrimp yes depends on how many that's in the bucket
Thank you for commenting
How long do the pumps usually last when you run them like that?
I have not one burn out yet, so I can't tell you. I have one that I have used for almost two years like this. Many people assume that the motor can only run at 1.5 volts. Truth is, DC motors can function at a wide variable of voltage. I would expect the plastic pump system to give before the motor.
Can you provide a link to the board you used.
@@thejungleexplorer I agree. I wonder if greasing the pump assembly might help prolong the life. I sprayed the electrical contacts of mine with golf cart battery protector spray I had laying around as well. I have a Hush Bubbler and the only weak point I see is the strength of the pump. It may be overkill but for the $ they ought to use higher voltage batteries and thicker wires. Even going to a rechargeable lithium setup with an external USB plug would do wonders for its modernized utility.
They make 15 gallon bubblers that are waterproof. 2 D's and sealed box. Going on 2 year in operation
Only use it when I fish
Jesse do you have a make model.
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If factory motor is rated for 1.5 volts, how long will the motor hold up at the increased voltage?
The truth is that DC is not that precise. All DC motors have a large voltage variance. Sure, if you ran this little motor at 12 or 24 volta it would burn out almost instantly. But it is totally fine with 2 or 3 volts. As if yet, I have not seen any motors burn out. I learned this from a friend that has been doing it for years, and has never had a motor burn out.
I'll comment the word comment lol good video
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Cool project only downside is you will burn your pump up real quick if you run it past like 2 volts for to long and then you will need to buy a better pump that can withstand higher voltage for longer periods of time
You would think so, but I have never had a motor burn out yet.
How long will the pump last like this? Looks like a awesome idea and even if it does destroy the pump after a while would still be worth the trouble! Im used to throwing these pumps away after a year anyway
So far, I have never had a pump burn out. I am sure it will at some point though. Then I will move the system t a new $10 bubble box.
@@thejungleexplorer Yeah i completely agree, plus the money saved on batteries will add up fast!
How does this set up work in salt water environment?
How bout the motor, how long will the motor last?
As of yet I have not had one burnd up.
You rock bro!
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Will doubling the voltage to the motor shorten the life of the motor?
Not in my experience. It is more likely to shorten the life of the plastic pumping mechanism. But, in my experience, I have runn the pump for days on end like this and it suffered no I'll effect.
I followed you all the way on this and it will not reduce voltage output, the info with the buck converter says this option will be bypassed if both input an output share the same ground. It does work but at full voltage. Any thoughts?
Something seems off. The is no such thing as a GROUND in DC electricity. A ground is only used with AC electricity. With DC you have Negative, and the Negative is shared in all DC systems. I think you are reading incorrect information somewhere. As far as your situation goes, it sounds like you may have a defective buck converter.
electronics is a lil out of my depth, but I think you are right I'm sending it back for another, I'll not give this up! Thank you for your great video and your quick response!
What's that little dc motor's voltage rating?
Have no idea. DC motors are different than AC motors. They are voltage variable. This is why they are used in things that need to operate at variable speeds from slow to fast. Things like cordless power tools and electric cars.
what was fun about it? running that motor fast is either going to burn out the motor or break the linkage between the motor and the little pump.
Good theory. But neither has ever happened. 😉
Best tip in the world. If it won’t start on fresh batteries you can suck start it to get it going. Ha ha….
Thank you for this great information David. I appreciate it very much when viewers contribute useful information as you have here.
@@thejungleexplorer no problem. It really does work like a charm besides the comic relief. After winter I end up sick starting my bubbler. Had same one 15 or so years. But I just keep fixing it. Finally had to glue my diaphragm with. Gorilla glue and got it going one more time this spring. Just ordered a rechargeable unit for aquariums to use for minnows. We see how that goes.
Not sure if someone asked as I am on mobile phone seeing this video. What is the effect of using it on 4.5 A on the motor? Will it eventually burn? What about battery life effect?
I found that any voltage over 3v did not increase production. 2.5v seem to be the happy point. The motor may be able to handle 4.5 volts, but the tiny pump cannot function properly at that velocity.
@@thejungleexplorer Thank you sir
My pleasure. Glad I could help.
Very informative video 👍 does the door close though?
Yes
I don't know if anybody has mentioned this but you can purchase an adjustable regular and a couple of resistors for under $1 and save yourself a ton off that fancy adjustable power supply.
Thanks for commenting
Really enjoyed the video. Will this work with a 12V battery?
Yes. It will work with a 12 volt battery.
Just wire those D cell in series and you get 3 volts .. same thing .. no complex boards .. lol
Thatnis one way to do it.
How long will that motor last running at the increase rate? Cool project
I have not yet had one burn out running it at 2.5 volts
Why not daisy chain d batteries to get 3 volts
One could always do that too.
Just buy a 12 volt unit, its way more cheaper and lot less work
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How long does the battery last?
Days
Great video. Were you able to close the bubbler box after the modification?
Yes.
Will a 20000mah power bank be to much to run this bubble box as is?
No.
u could buy a small 2s lipo for rc car or drone to put in there would extend the battery life and u could carry extras
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Yea I just put 1860 batteries in my bubble box, runs the same way and have to do no modifications… 18650s just fit a little tight. I only do it if I really need to keep something important alive because I fear it will blow up the cheap motor.
I have found that anything beyond 2.5 volts does not really produce much more air and stresses the motor. 18659 batteries are rated at 3.5 volts nominal, but have a charge of 4 volts when fully charged. That is way more voltage than what I demonstrated in this video. Another thing about 18650 batteries is that they are not all the same length. Their length varies according to their capacity rating. There can be up to a 1/4" difference from on to another. But it is interesting to hear you have used them. Thanks for telling me this.
What type of battles?
6 Volt #ad amzn.to/3egvMmu
Thats great except Ive rebuilt these small motors and whats going to eventually happen shortly is that the brushes in the motor are going to finally wear out which is why this entire concept is an expensive temporary fix.
Mine has still not burned out.
How long will it last and that speed long term
I have never burnt a motor out.
Nice video .. can u send me the link I want to purchase the same one you have .. thanks in advance ..
Gere you go: amzn.to/3SPrmJa
Yeah, that's what everyone wants to hear while fishing.
🤣 probably not.
How have you stored the battery with a 5 gallon bucket?
Hi. Thanks for the question. I am not quite sure exactly what you are asking. The battery is a sealed 6v lead acid battery and can be stored just about anywhere. But because of the little voltage regulator that I showed how to install, you can use just about any battery source up to a 36 volta battery.
I usually carry my gear and bait pail with me while fishing. I was trying to solve for the added weight of the battery that you had chosen to use. I decided to get a portable battery pack used to charge a cell phone or a tablet. I also purchased a voltage regulator from your link in the video description. I wired her up and she powers on. The voltage shows 4.6 volts. The model regulator I received from Amazon was different than yours in that there are two slotted dials to regulate voltage and amps. My issue now is when turning the dial, it doesn’t increase or decrease the voltage. I just received a second unit from the seller to replace the first because I wasn’t sure if it was the part or something else. The replacement part has done the same thing as the first.
@@JCL2575 Thank you for letting me know this. Sometimes manufacturers change products after I place a link to a page. I have had no trouble with mine, but as you say, they are now selling a different model. I found this one that looks more similar to the one I got: amzn.to/38Dsef4 #ad. It has pretty good reviews, but that is not saying much because the one in my link has a better review rating than this one. That is a problem with Amazon.com reviews, if the seller changes the product model on the page, amazon keeps all the reviews from the previous models. When I am buying a product, I read the negative reviews on it. I look for consistency of failure or defects, not just the standard "I HATE this product" type of negative reviews. If I find several people that experienced the same problem with a product, that tells me there may be a design defect with it. There are lemons even with the best products, so just because something failed does not mean the whole line is bad, but if there is a pattern of failure, that is what you have to watch out for.
I would send back the unit you have and get your money back, and try another unit from someone else. Obviously, there is a design flaw with the new model since you have two that acted the same way. There are many other models out there that do the exact same thing.
@@JCL2575 - You can buy a much smaller and simpler buck converter that takes a nominal input between 5v and 12v and gives you the option of whether to output 5v or 3.3v. They are used in laboratory test equipment.
i just modified battery compartment and used one 3,7v 18650 lithium ion batt. works as well just too noisy.
Did it make a significant difference in the speed of the motor and the volume of bubbles when going from 1.5v alkaline batteries to 3.7v 186650? How is it holding up? I have lots of 18650s. How did you modify the battery compartment?
Yes it has more power and faster motor sound. 5 hours pass still running, not sure when will it stop. I added solder on the center for contact connection.
Use a LiFePO4 cell and you get a lower nominal voltage of around 3.2v...nearly perfect these little 3v, .5a motors
Will this shorten life of pump?
Depends. Most of these little motors work great when new but as the cheap plastic parts wear and get dirty, they start to bog down do to under voltage. The higher voltage makes them work more efficiently and may extend their life to a point.
A lot of people don't realize that under voltage is typically harder on a DC motor than over voltage.
Obviously increasing the voltage on a D/C motor will increase its output. I dare you to run that device at level you showed in your demo for an extended period of time. That pump. All the parts connected ( connecting rod , etc.) Will fail in short order. Interesting concept though.
By-the-way, I did call you out. Lol!
Theories are great, but the thing with theories is that they are just that. This pump is still functioning fine after a year.
Now, will you be a man and do what is right?
LOL the motor can handle the voltage. But that little pump will burn up. That air pump has a piston. The Mr bubbles has a diaphragm. This could me a good hack if you use a pump that has a diaphragm.
I have not had the pump burn out ever. I mean, would expect that you would be right, but out of several of these that I and my buddies have done, we have not had one burn out yet.
What’s the rating on the motor? What is the max voltage it can handle? Nice video
I don't know what the rating is, but I have never had one burn out pushing it up to 3 volts. DC motors are not like AC motors. They can operate over a wide variety of voltages. The weakness here is the pump. Pushing it past 2.5 volts does not really give much more air.
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Why couldn't you just rewire the battery compartment to where the batteries are in series instead of parallel? That would give you three volts
That could be done as well.
@@thejungleexplorer I've done it to one of my little bubblers not long after I made my first comment, it works but I haven't tested it to see how long it running at those RPMs would hurt the motor.
You can just get a large air stone in the pet department. It puts out 2-3 times the air all by its self.
Good Idea
@@thejungleexplorer you will have to weight it down
That would be like listening to a chainsaw, while fishing…
Pretty cool gadget guy hack but it’s a portable bubble box!!! Who wants to go through all of that for a PORTABLE product that is cheap?? So cheap, in fact, that if you want more bubbles buy 3,4 or 5 bubble boxes. Who wants to haul around another power supply for a b box. I like the guys ingenuity but this is just a bit much for this product.
A friend of mine uses this technique to keep fish alive for days in a 120 quart ice chest in the back of his truck. The thing is, you can connect it to any power source, a 6v battery, a 12v battery, a car cigarette lighter. A phone charger in a wall outlet. Any DC power source from 3 to 36 volts.
Does the lid shut after install?
I wondered that same thing. Gotta keep that board protected from splashes and such.
Yes
How do I find video of the new board
I am not sure what you are asking. Please elaborate.
Great idea now you can convert these for us and sell them to us.
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I like this but feels it takes away from the portability aspect. I might add a way to attach the battery.
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Don't be fooled. There's a reason they only take 2 1.5vdc d size batteries. Sure you can get more power out of the motor by increasing the voltage. But you are reducing the life of the motor. Doesn't take much to burn those little motors out. Definitely a fun little project though.
Thanks for commenting
That was cool.
Thanks
Says it's currently unavailable on Amazon. Do you have another link?
Will find anything on Ebay. Just copy the title of item then paste to Ebay search box and hit return.
Thank you for commenting Roland Leies! I am so sorry to hear that.
@@thejungleexplorer that was over a year ago lol. Do you check your responses yearly? Lol
How do you know red goes to positive? 🤨
Red is always Positive in a DC system.
Cool but hushbubblers have a 12 volt adapter
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Couldn’t you add a capacitor inline and achieve a similar result?
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Who would want to listen to that thing while fishing..? 🤣
Thank you for commenting John Gilmore!
Are 2.5 volts I'll bet it won't last 2 hr. before it's fried
Been over a year. Still runs fine.
You don’t need that damn stone. I just rubber band a sinker or a washer or something to the end of the air line. Problem solved. I’ve been using a$10 pump for about 5 years now no problems. Changed batteries once. Get rid of the stone.
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Only for the reeeeeeeeally bored... 5$ bubbler + $14 voltage regulator = $15 bubbler. Why not just buy a better one in the first place?
Thank you for commenting brian sprinkle!
How long until it burns up?
Lol
..........Or until the little plastic arm Comes off
So far, neither. Lol
@@thejungleexplorer good. I'm really surprised. Lol
Why not just buy a bigger aerator that uses a bigger battery. I paid 30 dollars for mine and hooked it to a motorcycle battery. It will run for like 30 plus hours on 1 charge
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Just try putting a lithium battery directly to the battery terminals
Good idea
Cool
Thank you for commenting David Willingham! I am so glad the video was helpful.
That’s good for the first five minutes then the motor gets hot and melts through the case kills all the fish burns a hole in your bucket lol
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Or you could just hook a 9 volt to it
9v might be a little too much
Makes it a lot louder
Thank you for commenting Terry Grasty!
The pump will give out.
It won’t. Undervolt will harm this motor more than overvolt.
@@SittingBearProd but I said the pump not the motor
@@hmoob-dab-tsi7572 Diaphragm you mean, right ?? I would guess the little rubber diaphragm would give out a lot sooner than later.
Thank you for commenting Hmoob-dab-tsi!
When you buy this unit it tells you how many gallons it will work with which is not many just buy a bigger bubbler because this is just a waste of time and fore someone with way to much time on his hands and just like dicking around with shit bug in the end after this thing melts down you will end up just buying the bigger one !
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The stone is the biggest part of the problem
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Nah bruh, you just shove some rechargeable 18650 batteries in there and let it rip. mine runs all day long with no issues and doesnt even get hot.
I'll have to try this
Really
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