I tried this and it actually works. Did a bit of modifcation to my hopup arm and bucking, and now this way has upped my fps and range with .32g bbs. Amazing! Thanks for the vid!
@@MiGujack3 I removed the rubber hopup bucking so it was just the hopup arm, and cut a small rectangle spacer out (from a credit card type of material) and put it over the hopup patch, so it was like a flat hop nub. etc. That was alll. Update - I used .25g bbs and they jammed because the glue isn't springy, so you have to set the hopup and leave it there.
I literally tried that once lol. It didn't work out because silicone is to strong and difficult to clean up, plus a caulk gun is harder to control than a hot glue gun. This seems much easier
Don't use caulk. Use high temp rtv silicone gasket maker. Get it at a auto parts store. Use really warm soapy water o your finger to smooth it In to the barrel window
I just tried this on a ICS Komodo, Maxx hop with it's concave nub, and it works better than anything else I've tried. It shoots straight at around 70-75m like a laser, on 0.32s, DMR setup. I also did it on a short ICS gun with a stock barrel (200mm) aluminium, custom flat nub and it is a beast. Over 65m, laser again. Try it guys! Not sure how long it's going to last, but I am impressed so far.
It is an insanely smart way to make a patch. Have you had any problems with the patch leaving glue residue in the barrel? I'm hesitant to try this In my dmr.
thanks for this guide. my gun now shoots 75m (250+- feet) efective range. 0,3g bbs at 1,6J. But i am curious if the silicone tubing rhop patch will perform better. Btw i am running on stock barrel and i am getting this range which is crazy i think.
@@Riley-hartman i did in my vsr 10, takes a bit of skill and i heated the razor blade to get a smooth finish. For me its been working gr8 so far in my vsr 10. 2.8 joule and 0.45g bbs hopping like a charm, but i really need that weight, the hot glue is very aggressive in overhopping lighter bullets, atleast for my vsr
It's been a full year and it still works but it has been wearing out. Tme to do a new one and another for my new barrel! I play 2-4 times per month, if anyone is wondering. If you are a DIY person, its a pice of cake.
Did this to a stock e&c L96 sniper rifle. It can now shoot .45 bbs with power and without even turning the hop up on. Only problem is I cannot use .30s anymore since they would just airplane up lol
Hey, I have a Well L96 (MB08, type 96), with an AEG 6.03 barrel and the AA chamber. Would you recommend I do this mod ? Would the barrel be unusable afterwards should I decide to go back to normal hop rubber ? Any other info from your experience! Thanks in advance!
I recommend you use the stock hop rubber with the nub removed when using this mod. I think doing this to a 6.03 barrel won't be a problem since I also did this on a 6.01 EdGI inner barrel installed in a VSR 10, no issues. The owner even said that hot glue works better than an aftermarket ML hop rubber. I abandoned the the hot glue hop up though and installed a silcone hose rhop for durability. After a whole day play, we have observed that basrs seem to destroy s-hops faster than aegs. Fun fact: the bbs left a triangular friction pattern on the s-hop which explains ML's triangular nub design.
This is what is worn down vs the bucking rubber on a flat hop. Also once this patch is worn down fully, if the bucking is still good, you can just use the bucking as a flat hop afterwards.
@@JozMkII there'd be no way for the glue to melt on a hot day, by that point your concern is running away from whatever house fire you find yourself in before you cook alive
@@Ferrari255GTO It wouldn’t need to melt. It would only need to get hot enough to soften sufficiently and become deformable from the force of BBs pushing up against it. I’ve worked with hot glue quite a bit with RC plane projects, and have noticed that hot glue joints get soft in 90+ degree Fahrenheit outside temps. And in addition, I’ve tested hot glue joints by leaving test projects inside my car in hot summer temps; The greenhouse effect can get the glue joints so hot that they come undone on their own from the glue melting. After all, hot glue is designed to soften and melt via heat in the first place. Plus, the glue can get brittle and crack like glass in really cold temps. In fact, I’ve learned a trick to exploit this in cases where I might need to undo a hot glue joint; I hold a can of compressed air upside-down and directly spray the the can’s liquid refrigerant on the hot glue joint, making the glue itself brittle enough to literally break with force. All I’m saying here is that, while this looks like a pretty quick and crafty trick for making an R-hop nub, I’d be concerned of its ability to withstand the replica’s internal forces in extreme outside temps. I suppose the risks would be mitigated for an air softer who only plays in fair weather, but then there’s some of us who like to do milsim events that are scheduled months out and in which extreme temps and other crappy weather are accepted as realistic elements of the event.
@@JozMkII the thing is it still takes about 100°C to turn it softer, you'd have your battery burst in flames before that happens and by that point you're fucked anywyas
@@rdb9936 welp it’s your lucky day I saw this. It doesn’t. You’ll jam every shot. At least I did it with my Maxx ME hop up and it was just terrible even with no hop on the dial. Just flat hop (or r hop) a g&g green and up the hop till it takes effect. Personally flat hoping with a firefly nomazu was better than r hop fyi. It works with me playing out doors, but works even better inside. This is what project n1 usually suggests and sets people up with.
I had alot of trouble cutting the excess off i ended up using a sandpaper block from dollar tree it worked well the razor blade kept screwing up my work
LMAO, it's bucking! I was wondering where can I get similar rubber as guy in this video has. It needs to be non-sticky, malleable and flexible. And it is the bucking. I can't unsee it now. Thanks
This has to be the craziest (and possibly most genius) r hop solution I've seen, I've got to try this!
is still working good ?
yeah howd it actually turnout?
Yes it is crazy. A R-hop mod made with hot-glue... need to try this myself ;)
Fyi. You can get silicone tubing the exact od and I'd of an inner barrel. That's what I run.
I tried this and it actually works. Did a bit of modifcation to my hopup arm and bucking, and now this way has upped my fps and range with .32g bbs. Amazing! Thanks for the vid!
What modifications?
@@MiGujack3 I removed the rubber hopup bucking so it was just the hopup arm, and cut a small rectangle spacer out (from a credit card type of material) and put it over the hopup patch, so it was like a flat hop nub. etc. That was alll. Update - I used .25g bbs and they jammed because the glue isn't springy, so you have to set the hopup and leave it there.
This is crazier than my idea of using silicone caulk. But now I'm going to try this first.
I literally tried that once lol. It didn't work out because silicone is to strong and difficult to clean up, plus a caulk gun is harder to control than a hot glue gun. This seems much easier
Don't use caulk. Use high temp rtv silicone gasket maker. Get it at a auto parts store. Use really warm soapy water o your finger to smooth it In to the barrel window
I just tried this on a ICS Komodo, Maxx hop with it's concave nub, and it works better than anything else I've tried. It shoots straight at around 70-75m like a laser, on 0.32s, DMR setup. I also did it on a short ICS gun with a stock barrel (200mm) aluminium, custom flat nub and it is a beast. Over 65m, laser again. Try it guys! Not sure how long it's going to last, but I am impressed so far.
It is an insanely smart way to make a patch.
Have you had any problems with the patch leaving glue residue in the barrel?
I'm hesitant to try this In my dmr.
Which bucking do you run?
@@hypotheticmyth7141 update, on cold weather is not great, it overhops a lot :(
@@lucasvanbeers9906 a random one, not sure whatsoever
You should try other materials, RTV maybe?
thanks for this guide. my gun now shoots 75m (250+- feet) efective range. 0,3g bbs at 1,6J. But i am curious if the silicone tubing rhop patch will perform better. Btw i am running on stock barrel and i am getting this range which is crazy i think.
you will never get a better range on 0.3. If it's accurate on 75 meters jus leave it be and kill people.
Hi Filip, I am very curious: What kind of nub/tensioner are you using with this r-hop to achieve these results?
I doubt it, this method is genius because it seals all the air because of the perfect fit achieved by the hot and moldable hot glue applyed.
Thanks for this. Just made one and it works awesome.
what nub did you use?
What kind hot glue stick do you use ? Normal hot glue is solid so I guess must be a special type ?
Did you ever try it out?
@@Riley-hartman i did in my vsr 10, takes a bit of skill and i heated the razor blade to get a smooth finish. For me its been working gr8 so far in my vsr 10. 2.8 joule and 0.45g bbs hopping like a charm, but i really need that weight, the hot glue is very aggressive in overhopping lighter bullets, atleast for my vsr
Good day! and how did the hot melt glue perform? what results were achieved?
I tried it... ITS AWSOME
It's been a full year and it still works but it has been wearing out. Tme to do a new one and another for my new barrel!
I play 2-4 times per month, if anyone is wondering.
If you are a DIY person, its a pice of cake.
Did this to a stock e&c L96 sniper rifle. It can now shoot .45 bbs with power and without even turning the hop up on. Only problem is I cannot use .30s anymore since they would just airplane up lol
Hey, I have a Well L96 (MB08, type 96), with an AEG 6.03 barrel and the AA chamber. Would you recommend I do this mod ? Would the barrel be unusable afterwards should I decide to go back to normal hop rubber ? Any other info from your experience! Thanks in advance!
I recommend you use the stock hop rubber with the nub removed when using this mod. I think doing this to a 6.03 barrel won't be a problem since I also did this on a 6.01 EdGI inner barrel installed in a VSR 10, no issues. The owner even said that hot glue works better than an aftermarket ML hop rubber.
I abandoned the the hot glue hop up though and installed a silcone hose rhop for durability. After a whole day play, we have observed that basrs seem to destroy s-hops faster than aegs.
Fun fact: the bbs left a triangular friction pattern on the s-hop which explains ML's triangular nub design.
@@sainteniayel47great info, thanks! So using rubber/tube for r hop should last longer than S hop for BASRs, right?
Genius. Found the simplest and perfect solution.
Make sure the rubber in the window isn't folded if you do this
Does it still hold up to this day?
Is there any spesific hot glue brand or type that i should use ?
What nub use ? Modify?
What's the the pros and cons from this mod to doing a flat hop?
This is what is worn down vs the bucking rubber on a flat hop. Also once this patch is worn down fully, if the bucking is still good, you can just use the bucking as a flat hop afterwards.
I love the idea, thanks!
Is it the mad bull ultimate tightbot 6.01
That was crazy fast. Much quicker than an s hop 🧐I’d love to see the durability tested
Had if for 3 months so far. Still holds up and shoots great
@@lougoneloco4956 is it still working?? im thinking of doing it, just regular glue?
Hell yes diy for the win
I tried this ages ago and it didn't last for me.
@@lougoneloco4956is the bucking flat or does it have the nub
I’d be concerned over the hot glue deforming in really hot outside temps
No way you wrote that. No way.
@@lipoz-n-nitroz4012 I did. What’s so surprising about it?
@@JozMkII there'd be no way for the glue to melt on a hot day, by that point your concern is running away from whatever house fire you find yourself in before you cook alive
@@Ferrari255GTO It wouldn’t need to melt. It would only need to get hot enough to soften sufficiently and become deformable from the force of BBs pushing up against it. I’ve worked with hot glue quite a bit with RC plane projects, and have noticed that hot glue joints get soft in 90+ degree Fahrenheit outside temps. And in addition, I’ve tested hot glue joints by leaving test projects inside my car in hot summer temps; The greenhouse effect can get the glue joints so hot that they come undone on their own from the glue melting. After all, hot glue is designed to soften and melt via heat in the first place.
Plus, the glue can get brittle and crack like glass in really cold temps. In fact, I’ve learned a trick to exploit this in cases where I might need to undo a hot glue joint; I hold a can of compressed air upside-down and directly spray the the can’s liquid refrigerant on the hot glue joint, making the glue itself brittle enough to literally break with force.
All I’m saying here is that, while this looks like a pretty quick and crafty trick for making an R-hop nub, I’d be concerned of its ability to withstand the replica’s internal forces in extreme outside temps. I suppose the risks would be mitigated for an air softer who only plays in fair weather, but then there’s some of us who like to do milsim events that are scheduled months out and in which extreme temps and other crappy weather are accepted as realistic elements of the event.
@@JozMkII the thing is it still takes about 100°C to turn it softer, you'd have your battery burst in flames before that happens and by that point you're fucked anywyas
How long did you let the glue set for?
5 min
How long did patch this last for?
@@rdb9936 welp it’s your lucky day I saw this. It doesn’t. You’ll jam every shot. At least I did it with my Maxx ME hop up and it was just terrible even with no hop on the dial. Just flat hop (or r hop) a g&g green and up the hop till it takes effect. Personally flat hoping with a firefly nomazu was better than r hop fyi.
It works with me playing out doors, but works even better inside. This is what project n1 usually suggests and sets people up with.
@@cameronscott1219 Cheers man! I’m currently on a VSR bucking rabbit hole and came across this
I had alot of trouble cutting the excess off i ended up using a sandpaper block from dollar tree it worked well the razor blade kept screwing up my work
Trick is to not lot the glue fully cool. I let it cool about 1 minute and got the best result.
Thx mate
where do i get that blue thing (sorry i dont know very much about airsoft)
it’s called a bucking i recommend cyma or madbull
LMAO, it's bucking! I was wondering where can I get similar rubber as guy in this video has. It needs to be non-sticky, malleable and flexible. And it is the bucking. I can't unsee it now. Thanks
Wouldn't friction cause this to deform or melt really quickly?
shouldnt melt and hop ups always wear down over time tho i would imagine this one a little more rapidly
Genius
This is R hop or S Hop ?
i think it would be more of an s hop tbh
@@ZEFI907 H Hop
HG hop lol
Epic
Might try it
I would have never thought of this!
Has anyone tried this at range? Does it last as long as a regular rubber?
Cheers
What does it even do?
im having trouble with the glue staying on the inner barrel.. it keeps falling off, any suggestions?
scuff the barrel window so that the glue can seep in better. watch some proper r-hop installation videos and you'll get what i mean.
work
🔥🔥🔥
What kind of nub do u use?
Nah bro
i try its today .. its fucking graet .. hop its will not broken so fast ..
How is it holding up do you recommend?
Yeah, keen to know how long this lasts before it wears out!
Hi .. in moment I spent round about 5000 bbs .. and it is still graet
@@melronhr7686 Awesome! Have you tried it with unbridged/VSR style barrels?
@@rdb9936 no i play normal Poseidon barrel
how long did you leave the glue for?