Mud Test: M1 Garand
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- Опубликовано: 23 дек 2015
- One of the first InRange videos included a mud test on an M1A (M14) in a modified Troy stock.
Ever since the release of that controversial video we've been asked to do something similar with an M1 Garand - in the standard stock.
This video is part of a series of M1 Garand tests we're going to do, so please subscribe and watch for the rest!
Here we go...
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Honestly if my Garand was covered in mud like this I think would cry like a little girl.
Me to
me too, this video hurt my soul. I have to face camp perry and pray to john garand after watching this.
+gold54bs *too
LOL you are indeed little girls. Clean it off and deal with it.
*_*crying like a little girl intensifies*_*
mud test on a bow and arrow
+Jack Lamb It'd work. ~Karl
+InRangeTV Are you sure? The arrow might get jammed up in there XD
Beliserius1 but the weight and drag of water can misdirect the arrow
Arrow shoots, but it is horrible for the archer (if using a proper heavy weight bow). Just don't, unless you are using a bow with under 40 pound draw.
put the arrowhead in the mud
instant infection
actually i dont know shit, nvm
Somewhere out there, thousands of Garands screamed in unison.
*pinged
You don't think they have seen worse?
RebSike I was going to say that xD
Not if the owner could prevent it. Not when their lives depended on that gun working.
My garand in the army did get covered in mud a lot of times, that's how you get to learn your gun in the army. With the garand you can clean it enough in a creek or lake, to get it going again in just a few minutes. And i would never have done so if i was my own, not the armys property :)
00:52
"Ready?"
Me: no please don't do it
worth watching just for the PING
The M1 Garand: the gun where you accidentally say you're inserting a mag when you mean to call it a clip.
Patton is rolling in his grave right now
heh, I was once doing some combat training in finnish army, and started to wonder why my rk-62 is smoking so much. I popped the gun open.. had about 4 inch long dry pine twig inside there, slowly burning. Didn't even need to take it out, gun worked just fine :-D if it is smaller than a squirrel, it shouldn't affect the gun ;-) BTW gun sights are interesting when doing combat in snow. its natural reaction to blow into the back sight if its clogged with snow. that is the worst thing to do, as the snow slightly melts, freezes over again, and voila, you just lost back sight.
prowokator also don't do it when you get snow in the muzzle. Better to knock it against a tree than try to blow it out, or even brush it off. Learned that the hard way.
you should make this exact test with like EVERY gun
+weeeds334 Do you have every gun, available to loan them?
+Goldmarble i do
+weeeds334 I want to know how well bolt action rifles will run, especially the Japanese Type 99 Rifle with the dust-cover installed.
weeeds334 M4
BOOM
BOOM
BOOM
BOOM
BOOM
BOOM
BOOM
BOOM
...
"DID IT GO PING?"
"WHAT?!"
"DID IT GO PING?!"
"HOW THE HELL WOULD I KNOW, I JUST HAD EIGHT ROUNDS OF 30-06 GO OFF BY MY EAR!"
I still love Garands. I'll just try not to pour mud on mine lol.
Well this explains why the M1 Garand had a cotton canvas action cover available as a accessory.
wow, M1 Garand sound is just outstanding
When the Garand was undergoing acceptance trials the vulnerability of the mechanism to mud was observed and noted in reports. The weapon was adopted nevertheless because its other strengths more than compensated for that weakness. Furthermore, no semi-auto rifle evaluated up to that time by Ordnance Branch was in any way generally superior to the Garand. The high command realized the mud question would have to addressed by rigorous and effective training rather than by some sort of new mud-resistant rifle design. Remember, this was the mid-1930s, weapons like the FG-42 and the StG-44 with features that inspired Eugene Stoner to create his amazing AR-15 were in the future.
The training of American soldiers to understand and maintain their weapons was much more intense and in-depth in the years just prior to and during WWII than in previous wars, especially the 1914-1918 Great War. Thanks to Woodrow Wilson's dunderheaded pacifism, the United States entered that cataclysm totally unprepared in most categories of modern warfare as practiced by the other belligerent powers. We had only a handful of machineguns, and those were generally inferior to world standards. We had no modern artillery, no modern combat aircraft, no tanks, and our standing army in April 1917 would have been hard-pressed to engage the army of Portugal, let alone the forces of Imperial Germany. All we had was a respectable navy and millions of untrained men.
In the rush to get those men recruited, trained, equipped, and transported to France lots of shortcuts were taken and priorities were unrealistically skewed toward obsolete means of maneuver and combat. Far too much time was given over to close order drill and bayonet practice, and not nearly enough devoted to realistic training suitable for conditions on the Western Front. When the "doughboys" arrived in France they impressed everyone with their impressive physiques, their precise marching, and their enthusiasm. However, when the first American troops got into the line too many units tried to fight the Germans like it was the Battle of Antietam. A lot of men died who would have lived if their training had been more comprehensive and suitable to the realities of modern war.
Too many men did not sufficiently understand even their relatively simple Enfield and Springfield bolt guns to do competent field maintenance or to avoid simple and extremely dangerous mistakes like barrel obstruction. It's not my claim that these points weren't addressed in the soldiers' stateside training, but that the training was brief, dry, and perfunctory -- typically rote lectures delivered by tediously droning sergeants reading aloud directly from the field manual. In terms of military pedagogy, the training methods used in 1917 were less than effective.
In WWII the armed forces of the United States took the lessons of the Great War to heart and created training regimens unmatched in military history, and in a remarkably short time. In just a matter of a few months from December 1941, the Signal Corp created formats for training films, printed manuals, and classroom lectures. Among those creations were superscale models of infantry weapons such as machineguns, mortars, and hand grenades for use in classroom presentions. Furthermore, these training regimens and aids were constantly updated to keep abreast of battlefield experience and enemy means and devices revealed by military intelligence services. Sometimes training films were released after the subject matter had been revised. In those cases, an introduction sequence was often edited in explaining that some points to be covered were no longer applicable. Lecture material was included along with the film for the officer or NCO in charge of the presentation to address those obsolete points.
RUclips has dozens, perhaps hundreds of these training films available. There are even a few Nazi-era German training films available, and it is interesting to compare the style and substance of American training films to their enemy's similar efforts. Of particular relevance to this mud test conducted by Karl and Ian are these two videos: ruclips.net/video/iS4bVuQDadw/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/R4Ljh5zLBpY/видео.html . Everyone with an interest in the M1 Garand will profit by watching them.
FYI :don't throw your rifle in a mud bog and expect it to function without a complete strip down and cleaning/lube.
what I really like about you guys is that you are not super attached to these weapons like some of the fans are. its a tool, accentually, and you guys test it as such. love it guys
I love that you guys did all these mud tests. You've proven that the ar15 most battle tested mbr is the best shtf gun to have. Glad I got one and glad they are now so affordable. And also glad I got a DD GG2 so I can mill my own on the cheap.
I just recently bought an M1 and I wanted to sort of keep it secret from my family. I spent about a month waiting for a chance to shoot it just to see if it works. I loaded a clip and kept expecting the bolt to immediately fly forward. When it didn't I thought something was insanely wrong. In a panic, I spent about 10 minutes trying to purposefully induce Garand thumb, God finally gave me a freebie and sent the bolt forward. After finishing the test I realized what I did and for the next week I had a hand print on my forehead the size of Wichita.
This video made me cry, but I’m also glad someone has the balls to do this is such a precious and beautiful gun I could never do this
Wonder why Marines can keep their M1G always clean even their battlefields were mainly muddy in Pacific more than the Army in Europe during WW2.
Awesome test, thank you for doing this! These are the best torture tests ive seen.
It's too bad the Garand action fails this test, being a big mini-14 fan.
Next I want to see 3rd Gen. rifles put to the test: SCAR, ARX, and ACR going against the AR-15.
Thay doesnt surprise me in the least. Thankyou guys for doing these tests. Keep up the great work and keeping it professional.
That muddy stuff, that is why you have a bayonet!
I'm gonna cry
Having just watched a bunch of the later ones the instant fun and crazyness of this video is refreshing.
Can't say I didn't see this coming. Good job guys!
I get what you guys are trying to do, but this made me cringe...Old gal deserves a cush retirement.
+The Cosmoline Crate The rifle was not harmed, is cleaned, zeroed and lubricated - working fine. In my opinion, these rifles are war horses not flowers. :P ~Karl
agree 100%
You should get a bigger container and just dunk that thing in there.
+1 this
+Jacob Galfi Bishop: noun
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And risk having the gun explode due to mud obstructing the barrel? I guess they could plug the barrel before they threw it in the mud but dunking the whole thing in mud would be complete overkill, just getting it on and around the action is fine.
My my my...the sound of that rifle firing and cycling is music to my ears! There's something about that action that makes me smile. I've got a mini-14 and it's almost as if you can feel each individual action as it cycles and I love it. Sadly I haven't yet had the pleasure of a Garand or M1A, but there's still hope yet.
God i love the sound of the garand when the clip is done
This is why you don't feed your M1 to the Mud Bog monster.....Ping on my friends
FINALLY! SOMEBODY ON RUclips PRONOUNCES IT CORRECTLY.
+Brian Colborn Not correct.
Yes it is. His name was pronounced John Gerrand.
And literally nobody calls the gun that.
That doesn't make it correct. It was a mispronunciation that the US military just overlooked for so many years, that people just believe that's how it's pronounced. Btw, nice username. Suits you rather well.
+Brian Colborn Because it's consequential to the function of the gun? To referring to what it is? Stop being such a pedant.
I know the ping is legendary, but the sound of the gunfire itself is positively heartwarming.
A little anticipated recoil flinch ....:))
Love the content!! Please keep it up.
+golfnstuf It was an attempt to defeat a rock behind the trigger... ~Karl
Sten SMG, Owens SMG (Forgotten Australian SMG known for being robust)
So.......Marines in Pacific were so fucked with the mud.
+Der Kaiser Wilhelm II They were trained to avoid and mitigate the problem if possible. There are period training videos on this very topic. ~Karl
Der Kaiser Wilhelm II I believe they covered them with something that resembled a bag aswell.
Thank you. I really wanted to see this test, which simulated the results if a soldier fell into a severely muddy area. It certainly makes bolt action rifles with removable magazines much more appealing during our mud season. The AK test will be equally interesting.
0:56 the mud test is important, but damn Karl why did you have to drop the forestock against the edge of the wheelbarrow, thats just uncalled for
Still got access to that Owen Gun, Ian? I'd love to see a modern test.
It's not the prettiest firearm, and the Australian army initially didn't see the use for a sub machine gun prior to WWII (one of the reasons for it's initial rejection), but when the government later told them they did, they used an MP40, Sten and Thompson as benchmarks for comparison, which all failed instantly during mud and sand testing.
The Owen continued on flawlessly.
Great video guys! Was the susceptibility to mud a design flaw of the Garand or more simply just drawbacks of a top loading and rather open action that self-loaders of the time mostly all shared?
+nutsandgum The design is just very open to the ingress of debris. The tracks/rails are all exposed, the bolt lugs and locking surfaces are exposed, there's a huge hole for entry of filth when in battery, and the system is closed inside with no magazine for any escape.
It literally fills up with gunk and stops. Any gun will fail with this much crud in the action, the goal of the design is to block the stuff from getting in. ~Karl
It never ceases to amaze me how fast the mud dries in the sun
This is why the British army did not except the M1 Garand into service. Their own tests conducted in WW2 came to the conclusion that it was an unrefined technology. It needed further revision before it could be declared suitable for military service, they where however impressed with the semi-auto principle.
I realize there isn't any "soil " in AZ to make what most of us picture when we hear mud. I believe this mud test might reflect the Pacific theater somewhat.
In the European theater I think you might see this kind of stone soup on the beaches, but man, Arizona mud is some nasty shit!!!
Looks more like mortar mix.
Thanks for your videos!
+Ruhrpottpatriot Interesting, I had no idea parts of Europe were this way. I always equated course sand with desert conditions.
Thanks for setting me straight.
Merry Christmas
+Jerry Long Also in north africa
please do this with a g3! id love to see that
+Jason Derrer We don't have one, we'd have to acquire one or get a loaner. Maybe someday. ~Karl
+InRangeTV I'll send you my cetme clone
+Jason Derrer I would love to see that!
You guys should start a playlist with these torture tests. It would really help people discover your older content later on!
I know a lot of people love the m1 for its nostalgia, but overall i think its quite an impractical weapon
Well, i think you're wrong. There's nothing Impractical about it, and still makes for a better rifle than the M14
Your killing me, a M1 Garand. I been looking for one for a long time and here you are beating the hell out of it. Please don't do it with a M1 CARBINE.
There's thousands upon thousands of M1 Garands still around
+Shawn H
Only a few of those available to the US and all of them expensive.
Eric Johnson Its a machine not a living thing
I don't know what your talking about, I love the M1 GRAND, M1A Scout or the M1 carbine. I must have me confused with someone else.
The horror
I remember many hours spent disassembling and assembling both the M1 and the 1911 against a stop watch. I believe the reason for this was so what you displayed does not happen. Granted if it came to a shot had to be fired and all you had was a rifle laying in the mud take the shot and pour water through the action to resume. That is how I learned to respond to such conditions. A clean weapon is a happy weapon!
What an awesome gun! Love that sound!!
DANG! that .30'06 report just sounds WAY powerful
That's a full afternoon of cleaning. Ugh.
I am wondering, this looks like the extreme of what these guns could go through, what would be a realistic test for these rifles. I still love these videos, and it is very informative to see these rifles go through such conditions. Keep up the good work.
In Range, love the show. in regards to the firing pin, the pin will retract on contact with the m1 receiver when the bolt closes. A protruding pin is insignificant.
its still the best rifle of WW2
Dude i would way rather have an m1 in WW2 than an ak
Emma Watson negative
Emma Watson Lol why?? I mean, I love me some m1s-but there's a reason we use detachable magazines now a days.
Cdubp01 intermediate cartridge makes a bigger difference. The original 10 round .276 Garand would have been incredible
Thanks for the mud test videos. Please be careful with these tests, I am afraid the mud will give with the firing pin stuck while you guys are trying to clear and clean it. Not sure if that is possible, but just be safe.
One of the most beautiful rifles ever! Great Canadian engineering
I still love the M-1 Garand..just a big gentle bear of a battle rifle.. I *SWEAR* it kicks less them my Polytech M-14S..
but yeah... mud in the guts....never good.
Seeya
Dude
+80spodcastchannel ( : FACEBOOK DUDEJERKY ☆☆☆☆☆ Oh yeah definitely. The only .30-06 rifle that I could shoot all day and not have a sore shoulder in the slightest.
Jeez, firing pin stuck extruding? You were trying to force the bolt into battery! Lucky it didn't fire out of battery with the pin sticking out like that...
This hurt to watch...but I searched for this video and I'm glad I saw it!!
Hot Damn! I always forget just how much the Garand absolutely ROARS when it fires.
owe that hurts seeing a M1 put in mud
I die a little inside everytime I watch these guys dirty up these beautiful rifles.
I get a better understanding of how tough it was for American G.I.s during WW2 in the pacific. Great video guys.
Great video. I shot M1's and M14's for many years in competition. I had a guy next to me at a match just about slice his hand off after a slamfire so that stuck firing pin could have been a bad time for you guys.
watching mud get put on that hurts me
It shouldn't. ~Karl
Why do that to an M1?
+Zerbian30 ruclips.net/p/PLj9u4Ts2NpEv4Fnwx2_ig4wVqiONfH1me
+InRangeTV oh shit I didn't see that. My bad.
Great Video! It's very interesting to see what these rifles can truly handle! I have to say though, after the first FTF the rifle could have be recocked with the trigger guard... If the first round had fired it might have cleared some debris.
Taking away the Garand's ability to ping should be illegal
god that poor gun. Also low crawling through mud may be more accurate cause u know who pours mud on their firearm?
right because no one who is getting shot at could ever be running and trip onto their rifle in the mud. ever.
0:55 tried his damnedest to break the hand guard, cringe
+iceking123kitty We forgot the sledge hammer unfortunately. ~Karl
+InRangeTV lol.
+InRangeTV will you guys pls do one of these tests on a SKS??
Damn that thing makes a beautiful sound.
Thats why the FN49 has small dustcover you can slide forward to save the action from debree.
This video genuinely pissed me of
stephen hendrix why
Chroma i hate seeing such a beautiful rifle having that done to it
stephen hendrix This is what basically been done to all rifles in world was 1 and 2
that is NOT mud that was gravel & dirt
Ghost Shadow its mud
You can hear the rocks/gravel scraping on the shovel as he scoops it up and dumps it into the receiver, sounds more like shoveling concrete mix than mud
Ghost Shadow
You do know what mud is right?In the battlefield they won't purify the mud for you.
Mud is dirt mixed with water.And what is in dirt?You guessed right rocks and gravel.
I was in the marines, I think I have encountered my fair share of mud,
Ghost Shadow I highly doubt that.
The M1 Garand is the greatest battle implement ever devised!
no
not when it comes to the mud test lol
any rifle of that period would share a similar failure rate, it was the best rifle of the era
The M1 Garrand...Ahhh Yes.!!!...That Sweet Succulent sound of Bullet through flesh. -Unknow Poet "1944
Karl,looks like you've lost a few pound in the year since you posted this video.Great channel,always look forward to a new episode.
I love my m1 garand, never did a mud test, but I always new that void, and OP tracks were a weak point for that test in particular
I spent 9 months and 15 days in VN as a "rifleman" in an infantry platoon. Don't remember ever seeing any firearm this muddy.
I'm crying right now
that badass sound... m1 garand baby
Still one of my favorite rifles to shoot.
The sound of this gun shooting is music to my ears. Damn I want a Garand.
There's a WWII Garand training film where the Army is explicit that mud will stop it. They make it clear that once you have mud in the action, you're out of business until you strip it and clean it.
P.S. in another video mud even messed up the fabled AK. He could manually cycle it, but not quickly.
Merry Christmas guys! Great test, I was quite surprised to see the very first round fail to go off. I expected the first round the fire and then a hard failure. This is really making me want to see a FAL go through the same test. Any interest?
I LOVE THIS SERIES!!!!!!!!!!
Got to say...that was painful to see such a nice old rifle being abused in that manner. And your conclusions are most certainly correct...as far as it goes with mud of such consistency. When dealing with muck containing particles large enough to bridge over the operating clearances within the mechanism it's critical to keep that stuff OUT! Having looser internal working clearances WILL allow smaller debris a place to go without jamming stuff up, but when you have concrete slurry that's not going to work just because your rocks are way bigger than any working clearance is ever going to be.
I know that every test can be argued, and Good Job on doing these! But running the same tests with more representative muck with smaller particle size could totally change the outcome. The AK (assuming it's not built too tight...which I see in US built guns often as people like them tight) would eat a small particle slurry where that same goop would penetrate the AR and clog it up. My M-16A1 fired ONE round after going through the Infliltration Course and had the bolt carrier stuck all the way back. Had to crunch it home one forward assist notch at a time until I could break it open and clean it....and this was just sand. (mostly) All small particle stuff which is the bane of the AR's and what the AK's laugh at. Keep up your testing and maybe re-run with small particle goop if you don't agree with my logic....but I think it's sound.
on iwo jima there is a video of a marine trying to open the action of an m1 with volcanic sand in the action
I have to say I didn't expect the rifle to make that manly of a sound
Oh god I don’t want to watch but can’t look away.
I live in the interior of Alaska, I use a m1 in all weather, all temperatures, I have had it buried in muskeg, I have had it in swamps, I have had it wet and frozen at -40 plus and I have had 0 yes zero that is zero zip nadda, not one malfunction in the 10 years used
I love that iconic “Ching!” so much
i have an M1 and seeing it with all that mud hurts my soul
Thanks from Texas.
Interesting test but made me want to cry seeing what was being done to the Garand
I've read that Marines on Okinawa sometimes had to kick their M1 bolts into battery with their boots because of the mud. I suppose you could always try that...
Sounds so beautiful