Mud Test: The WW1 & WW2 Mosin-Nagant

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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    The Russian 1891 Mosin-Nagant served through two world wars and often neglected eastern front trenches of WW1 were just as horrific and mud filled as those on the western front.
    The Mosin-Nagant has been heavily requested so we started with this iconic bolt action rifle but we also have the Mauser 98, Enfield and others coming up so stay tuned.
    We did previously test another rifle used by the Imperial Russian army of WW1, the Winchester 1895:
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  • @shread802
    @shread802 8 лет назад +3089

    I would like to point out that the wheelbarrow has performed flawlessly in several mud tests thus far, this being it's most grueling.

    • @TheDoctorGnome
      @TheDoctorGnome 8 лет назад +89

      It's the real MVP

    • @zendell37
      @zendell37 8 лет назад +61

      I can attest to that. I've got a modified version with two rollers. That sort of lockup keeps the barrow much more stable during use.

    • @michaelcoulter1114
      @michaelcoulter1114 7 лет назад +16

      Damian Grouse
      BAN THE WHEELBARROW!

    • @richardmoore6295
      @richardmoore6295 7 лет назад +21

      that is the most famous wheelbarrow on youtube!

    • @erikbogerman2048
      @erikbogerman2048 7 лет назад +3

      wood1155 no i would wager its chineses clone.... but how could one ever know?

  • @pleasedontwatchthese9593
    @pleasedontwatchthese9593 8 лет назад +1232

    Looks like the people who got mud in their Mosin in WW1 could not get the second shot off till WW2.

    • @Stout936
      @Stout936 7 лет назад +63

      PleaseDontWatchThese good timing too. Damn near let the Krauts take Stalingrad

    • @johnathanblackwell9960
      @johnathanblackwell9960 5 лет назад +37

      nah, they just smacked the bolt with a hammer

    • @Feeshyenjoyer
      @Feeshyenjoyer 4 года назад +4

      Or they died

    • @richardm3023
      @richardm3023 4 года назад +16

      In fairness, it took until WW II for the Soldier to be given a second bullet.

    • @andrewmandrona7891
      @andrewmandrona7891 4 года назад +5

      It's why Russia pulled out of WWI.

  • @Heiryuu
    @Heiryuu 4 года назад +97

    It’s amazing, you’ve turned a bolt action rifle into a single shot breech loader. Absolutely stunning.

  • @tu-95turbopropstrategicbom55
    @tu-95turbopropstrategicbom55 7 лет назад +508

    "Very inexpensive." Please Ian don't make me cry, don't remind me I missed the golden mil-sure age.

    • @bottomtext1241
      @bottomtext1241 5 лет назад +36

      SmugNigel I paid $155 for my mosin with a sling, cleaning kit, pouch, oil can, and a few rounds

    • @brandonbentley8532
      @brandonbentley8532 5 лет назад +16

      I paid 120 for an unissued short Mosin Nagent in 2008. You still can for about 200...Mausers are going way up though, especially nice ones.

    • @blarghinatelazer9394
      @blarghinatelazer9394 5 лет назад +21

      @@brandonbentley8532 That's the thing. Now they cost 200, 300 dollars. Gone are the days of the 99 dollar garbage rod ;-;

    • @tallman2210
      @tallman2210 5 лет назад +13

      @@blarghinatelazer9394 Every Mosin I saw for sale this year was over $300.

    • @beverlywilliams8458
      @beverlywilliams8458 4 года назад +9

      @@blarghinatelazer9394 SKS's and Mosins are now 400 dollars.

  • @Cthippo1
    @Cthippo1 8 лет назад +576

    "I once broke a wheelbarrow trying to get a Mosin bolt open"

    • @ArpaZha
      @ArpaZha 4 года назад +6

      Late but the only time the wheelbarrow malfunction

    • @ManaMan_1405
      @ManaMan_1405 3 года назад +5

      True Russian philosophy : hit it with something until it works.

  • @rogueamp
    @rogueamp 8 лет назад +1405

    considering the mosin needs to be beaten open under ideal conditions this test isn't surprising in the slightest

    • @Gungeek
      @Gungeek 8 лет назад +47

      You're gun has issues :)

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 8 лет назад +9

      Replace your cocking spring.

    • @INTERNATIONAL_RDF-D
      @INTERNATIONAL_RDF-D 8 лет назад +68

      Clean the damn cosmoline out of it. And that problem fades quickly.

    • @Gungeek
      @Gungeek 8 лет назад +12

      The Unknown decepticon
      not always.

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 8 лет назад +27

      *****
      Which is why I added to fix your cocking spring, a lot of cases of sticky bolt are from the cocking spring being too long (sloppy refurbishment during the Soviet Union)

  • @kazoolordhd6591
    @kazoolordhd6591 7 лет назад +222

    Mud Test: The WW1 & WW2 Mosin-Nagant is a wrong title, the title should be, "gun jesus hitting a mosin against a wheel barrow"

    • @chrissmith8967
      @chrissmith8967 5 лет назад +4

      KazooLordHD you are right

    • @cobraglatiator
      @cobraglatiator 2 года назад +1

      "Mud Test: The WW1/WW2 Mosin-Nagant bolt VS wheelbarrow full of mud."

  • @flyinglunchbox
    @flyinglunchbox 8 лет назад +1240

    Ian you are not true Soviet. True Soviet carries trusty rock to beat open Mosin! Trusty rock is also good for wife as well.

    • @edgarcetino1231
      @edgarcetino1231 7 лет назад +50

      BLYAT

    • @ztbmarine
      @ztbmarine 6 лет назад +43

      Like...is the rock the wife?

    • @janisbitkoinsgmbh1803
      @janisbitkoinsgmbh1803 6 лет назад +32

      Zachary Bowman did the joke rly just flew over you like that?

    • @grayflaneur4854
      @grayflaneur4854 6 лет назад +38

      Instead of water to clean mud, Red Army standard is to piss on it. Also good for cleaning barrel...

    • @holyhandgrenade1259
      @holyhandgrenade1259 6 лет назад +40

      Rock for when wife no cook chebureki and borsch for hungry slav. Hit the suka.

  • @LUR1FAX
    @LUR1FAX 4 года назад +44

    Every video game ever that features the Mosin-Nagant has praised it for being "strong" and "accurate" and "very reliable". In MGS3 they even say that German soldiers in WW2 would ditch their Kar98k rifles and use picked up Mosin-Nagant sniper rifles. In reality compared to most other military bolt action rifles, the Mosin-Nagant is none of those things.

    • @scientificconsideration8294
      @scientificconsideration8294 2 года назад +10

      Well the German sniper scopes (most common in use was the Zf 41) were often pretty terrible, so I guess the story about picking up Mosin snipers may have some validity to it.

    • @medievalarmorexptert6827
      @medievalarmorexptert6827 2 года назад +1

      @@scientificconsideration8294 honestly, i wouldnt give reliability and accuracy for a better scope.

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 Год назад +1

      @@medievalarmorexptert6827 sniper tends to care their rifle more thoroughly than regular, so it's not an issue. Sniper wanted utmost accuracy so anything that can make them hit target better; from higher quality bullet to highest quality scope are welcomed for sniper

    • @BACCHUS777
      @BACCHUS777 Год назад

      @@scientificconsideration8294 Patently false and complete BS.

    • @DieLuftwaffel
      @DieLuftwaffel Год назад

      Can't remember his name, but there was a pretty accomplished WW2 German sniper who actually chose to use a mosin rather than the German issue options until he later was acknowledged as a sniper (he took on the role on his own interest) and was given an official purpose-made sniper rifle. By that time he had already killed a large number of Russians with his mosin.

  • @pleasedontwatchthese9593
    @pleasedontwatchthese9593 8 лет назад +311

    Can you mud test Jerry Miculek trigger finger? I want to see if anything can slow him down.

  • @spus.
    @spus. 7 лет назад +271

    when the wheelbarrow full of mud cost just as much as the gun.

  • @DwarfElvishDiplomacy
    @DwarfElvishDiplomacy 8 лет назад +1653

    I dont think this test is realistic because this isnt european mud, please redo the test in the easteuropean swamps

    • @KieferDragoner
      @KieferDragoner 8 лет назад +21

      seriously? what do you expect then?

    • @DwarfElvishDiplomacy
      @DwarfElvishDiplomacy 8 лет назад +295

      Trying to bait some Mosin Nagant fanboys that are coming up with an excuse for every failure over here ;)

    • @meso2565
      @meso2565 8 лет назад +14

      lol

    • @KieferDragoner
      @KieferDragoner 8 лет назад +5

      +Dwarf-Elvish Diplomacy lmao :D

    • @waswolltihr1526
      @waswolltihr1526 8 лет назад +119

      But be sure to check the European mud's birth certificate! We want to see proof of it's origin!

  • @gunnarhassing5875
    @gunnarhassing5875 4 года назад +61

    “So the interrupter is interrupting”
    And that was the day Ian killed a man.

  • @vroomkaboom108
    @vroomkaboom108 6 лет назад +40

    Can we all just accept it for the mass-produced garbage it was always intended to be? The fact this test surprises anyone reveals some serious bias among gun enthusiasts.

  • @CeeKayz0rz
    @CeeKayz0rz 7 лет назад +147

    "Did they carry them with the safety on?"
    HAH!! I'm betting most Soviet conscripts didn't even know the weapon had a safety!! I sure didn't, for a good few years... :P

    • @888nevik
      @888nevik 7 лет назад +20

      don't think many of them had any ammo in the first place

    • @GardenFootCreature
      @GardenFootCreature 7 лет назад +20

      I don't think they bothered using it 'cause it's such a pain in the ass operating the damn thing.

    • @ab5olut3zero95
      @ab5olut3zero95 4 года назад +7

      I uh, honestly just learned there was a safety in the video....

    • @ruthlessrubberducky5729
      @ruthlessrubberducky5729 4 года назад +2

      I feel like the safety is more dangerous to engage than it is worth having it on.

    • @danmorgan3685
      @danmorgan3685 4 года назад +6

      Those conscripts actually received training on how to use the rifles. They were definitely shown how to use the safety.

  • @DizzyMan24
    @DizzyMan24 7 лет назад +69

    So what you're saying is, if I want to go into war with a Mosin rifle, I need to bring my trusty wheel barrow along?

    • @fredrikcarlen3212
      @fredrikcarlen3212 4 года назад +5

      Yes. And when you return home, you will have dumped the rifle but kept the wheel barrow as it was more effective weapon..

  • @Asgar1205
    @Asgar1205 8 лет назад +165

    can't wait to see how the 98 compares to that

    • @webb4158
      @webb4158 8 лет назад +47

      Likely the same, no rifle works when it's bolt is full of mud.

    • @TroopperFoFo
      @TroopperFoFo 8 лет назад +7

      Watched a video on someone mud testing one with less mud. About the same as the mosin preformed here.

    • @SNOUPS4
      @SNOUPS4 8 лет назад +3

      especially when the said mud is full of quartz cobbles/pebbles

    • @MarvinCZ
      @MarvinCZ 8 лет назад +14

      Some weapons work after this treatment, like the Winchester 1895 mentioned in the video.

    • @DudeNumberOnePlus
      @DudeNumberOnePlus 8 лет назад +3

      98 is bit better closed off, my tip is it would extract with no problems. Quesion is if it will be able to lock on next round.

  • @oddball1357
    @oddball1357 4 года назад +28

    I see mosin is not affected by mud at all, works about the same as a clean one!

  • @foreststalkerbrothers
    @foreststalkerbrothers 4 года назад +22

    1:47 this gotta be the smoothest mosin reload you will ever see lads

    • @MrSnake-dh3hu
      @MrSnake-dh3hu 4 года назад +2

      I dunno, I've got one just like that from 1943 that cycles smooth as butter

    • @jongreenshields2815
      @jongreenshields2815 4 года назад +2

      @@MrSnake-dh3hu me too, got a Finnish 1942 one that really does good. Wish I had something better than the steel ammo to feed it

    • @darrengarcia4937
      @darrengarcia4937 2 года назад +1

      @@jongreenshields2815 yeah Mosins are completely changed. Better than any other mosin.

    • @darrengarcia4937
      @darrengarcia4937 2 года назад +2

      @@jongreenshields2815 finnish mosins i should have said

  • @stephenandersen4625
    @stephenandersen4625 8 лет назад +6

    "I'm not worried from a safety perceptive; you know what you're doing." Famous last words ;-)

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 лет назад +5

      +Stephen Andersen I'm a survivor! ~Karl

    • @stephenandersen4625
      @stephenandersen4625 8 лет назад +3

      InRangeTV survivor's bias. a common logical fallacy ;-)

  • @gabrielchcosta
    @gabrielchcosta 4 года назад +16

    1:45 here we can see some rare colorized footage where the stripper clip for a mosin works as intended.

  • @foreststalkerbrothers
    @foreststalkerbrothers 4 года назад +19

    Friend's dad found one with metal detector ( On Ukraine).
    In water.
    It was rusty as hell but not so much since mud it was in did not get much air on it.
    He also found few full clips.
    He loaded.
    It fired.

  • @notsoserious0944
    @notsoserious0944 8 лет назад +27

    I JUST saw a WWI photo of a British soldier in the trenches. He had a piece of burlap tied around the action of his rifle to keep it clean. FWIW.

    • @williestyle35
      @williestyle35 5 лет назад +2

      Exactly right! If your own life depends on your rifle working, you will do anything to keep it working.

    • @craigmack3361
      @craigmack3361 5 лет назад +3

      Keeps it clean and add a little more and it'll break up the shape of the rifle making it easy for the sniper to stay in one place for longer periods of time without being spotted. I can't imagine they relocated much between shots in the trenches.

    • @baskapat5239
      @baskapat5239 3 года назад

      @@craigmack3361 nah fix ur bayonet and charge at machine gun nests, the weebs did it through the Pacific campaign

  • @megrimlockmesmart.1200
    @megrimlockmesmart.1200 4 года назад +18

    Remember Lads....Wen fighting in the eastern front, don't forget your wheelbarrow so that your can cycle your mosin-nagant bolt efficiently.

  • @douglasfulmer5483
    @douglasfulmer5483 8 лет назад +43

    You should have prayed to Glorious Stalin and requested the rifle to work.

  • @craigmack3361
    @craigmack3361 5 лет назад +1

    I've got a 1934 Tula hex 91/30 and she's been good to me in the short few years I've had it. I picked it up missing the cleaning rod, sling, and bayonet. Don't regret a thing. Maybe not the best but one of my favorites to shoot.

  • @CAepicreviews
    @CAepicreviews 8 лет назад +32

    I'd love to see a Springfield 1903 mud test.

    • @LoneWolf051
      @LoneWolf051 7 лет назад +6

      and a M1917 Enfield

    • @omd-1064
      @omd-1064 7 лет назад +1

      Geralt of Rivia well, I think both of those use Mauser (inspired) actions, so they would be very similar to the kar/gewehr 98

    • @baskapat5239
      @baskapat5239 3 года назад

      I want Carcano mud test or at least sand test.

  • @ooloncaluphid
    @ooloncaluphid 6 лет назад +1

    I have an 1897 Tula which still has its front sight. And the Finnish meter update to the rear sight. One capability that the M1891 has that commentators often neglect is that you can stand it on the butt end on a flat floor, and it will stand unsupported. I also think that two Mosin shooters operating as a team under unfavorable field conditions can use the butt end of one rifle to open the bolt of another. Another example of the power of comradeship.

  • @jackeyxm8401
    @jackeyxm8401 8 лет назад +14

    I want to see the arisaka type 99 to see if that cover over the bolt would truly do its job

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 лет назад +14

      We will be trying that, because I'm curious about it too. ~Ian

  • @RangerOfTheOrder
    @RangerOfTheOrder 5 лет назад +3

    Ah, the good 'ol moist-nugget. The Mosin has a pretty crummy action to start with. Most are like dragging a fridge across a beach. The smoothest one I've handled is my Hungarian mosin, but even that doesn't stack up to my friend's K98.

  • @NoorElahi1776
    @NoorElahi1776 3 года назад

    Man I love this stuff! Put this on The History Channel and I'll consider paying for cable.

  • @Papperlapappmaul
    @Papperlapappmaul 8 лет назад +304

    "Das Russ(en)gewehr ist Scheiße" -Ian

  • @dogboy0912
    @dogboy0912 8 лет назад +6

    A 2x4 is required for standard operation of the mosin. I figured that would be a given.

  • @FPSviet
    @FPSviet 4 года назад +8

    Okay, but this is how I normally run my mosin anyway without mud.

  • @alexanderkolodziej4808
    @alexanderkolodziej4808 8 лет назад +1

    Thank you for the great work that you put into every video!
    Among all youtube gun and history channels your fills in a gap that is very interesting and educating.
    Take care!

  • @mastabugfish
    @mastabugfish 8 лет назад +8

    Would you gentlemen have any interest in mud testing a revolver (or a
    couple of revolvers) vs a semi auto pistol (or a couple of them)? Id be
    very curious to see if any more reliability myths get dispelled or
    upheld. Thanks for what you guys do! -P.S. I double posted this here and on Full30

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 лет назад +4

      I'm sure it'll happen at some point. ~Karl

  • @NPS69
    @NPS69 8 лет назад

    That is hands down the most volatile mud I've seen. I wish you guys could do a series of tests with several of each gun in different types of mud. Very fine, gritty stuff that wants to seep in every little crack possible would be interesting.

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 лет назад

      The Germans in WW2 (and I believe in WW1 as well) thought there were specifically three different and distinct types of mud. ~Karl

  • @touofthehighplains
    @touofthehighplains 8 лет назад +24

    You mean the Mosin-Nagant was a falsely romanticized in the movie "Enemy at the Gates"? Now I have to sell my Mosins.

  • @d.b.1176
    @d.b.1176 2 года назад

    I’m glad Ian knows the difference between inexpensive and cheap.

  • @VVoVa1988
    @VVoVa1988 8 лет назад +7

    It be intresting to see shotguns of WW1 and WW2 mud test in future videos

  • @forsterra6
    @forsterra6 4 года назад

    Wauw so nice to see, I expected the Mosin to cycle, but you guys managed to subverted my expectations! Greetings from the Netherlands!

  • @ThZuao
    @ThZuao 8 лет назад +24

    Do a Lee-Enfield!!

    • @knutdergroe9757
      @knutdergroe9757 6 лет назад

      Thauã Aguirre,
      AGREE !!!
      A rifle that drive me nuts on many fronts....

  • @christostefan
    @christostefan 5 лет назад

    My brother and I found a vintage manual of arms from Czarist imperial Russia, written in Russian complete with several obsolete letters that are no longer part of the Cryllic alphabet and illustrations. The official procedure for opening a stuck closed bolt was as follows: "1 lay rifle on ground bolt up. 2 step on rifle with right foot, all weight on the stock over the magazine. 3 with left leg kick the bolt open with heel using appropriate force."

  • @toothpickcity2
    @toothpickcity2 8 лет назад +6

    To be fair, mosins are a bit of a bear to unlock even when clean so it is not overly surprising it failed this test. I would wait to see how the other rifles do before passing judgement, especially the ones that use a cam to cock the rifle.

    • @Gungeek
      @Gungeek 8 лет назад

      not all Mosin bolts are hard to open :/

    • @toothpickcity2
      @toothpickcity2 8 лет назад

      +Gungeek i may be spoiled. my first rifle was a lee-enfield

    • @Gungeek
      @Gungeek 8 лет назад

      Had a few enfields with very bad bolts :)

    • @xZombiexNation
      @xZombiexNation 8 лет назад

      Yes, big, strong, Russian bear.

  • @novaman3509
    @novaman3509 7 лет назад +1

    I saw the title, and I thought too myself "LOL! That POS's bolt feels like it's lined with sandpaper as it is. No way in hell it's opening with mud in it."

  • @Rosi_in_space
    @Rosi_in_space 8 лет назад +70

    9:44 "Das Russen-Gewehr ist Scheisse".

  • @DeltaGreenA
    @DeltaGreenA 8 лет назад

    This was the finest comedy I've seen in months. Ian has some natural talent going for him.
    I was laughing my ass off the first time Ian decided to bang the bolt against the cart.

  • @LeFeuauxpoudres
    @LeFeuauxpoudres 6 лет назад +5

    Comments are not deactivated, that's crazy!

  • @Lukusprime
    @Lukusprime 4 года назад

    I remember when I first got my Mosin, it was so caked up with gunk inside that when you put the safety on, it didn’t cock the rifle. (I could work the action, dry-fire it, then put the safety on, and after I took the safety off the weapon wouldn’t dry-fire, i.e. it would be un-cocked) My friend came over to walk me through cleaning it (it was my first rifle, and I didn’t know much about cleaning guns) and when it worked properly, we both thought that I had assembled the bolt incorrectly. After what must have been at least 4 tries of re-assembling the bolt, and numerous RUclips videos and web articles searched, we realized that it was actually operating as intended.

  • @chickenman01794
    @chickenman01794 8 лет назад +74

    is he the person on forgotten weapons?:/

  • @brandonbentley8532
    @brandonbentley8532 5 лет назад +1

    I see him put the clip in his pocket. I remember when stripper clips were so cheap and came with most surplus ammo that you just let them fall on the ground to be forgotten. Now I cherish my clips for my mauser 98! I particularly like early brass clips but the tin-steel ones are fine too...another great idea thanks to paul mauser...

  • @giancarlowolfe3654
    @giancarlowolfe3654 8 лет назад +10

    Any chance you could do a mud test on a SVT40 or SKS? Great video.

    • @DestroyER82
      @DestroyER82 8 лет назад +4

      Basicly 100% same as VZ58 in test time ago..

    • @ChoLovingVampire
      @ChoLovingVampire 7 лет назад

      DestroyER82 No it wouldn't, the magazine is different. I think it would perform better.

  • @NotSoMelancholy
    @NotSoMelancholy 4 года назад +1

    Standard mosin practice under muddy conditions:
    1. Fire Shot
    2. Fail to cycle
    3. Pick up another mosin
    Repeat

  • @INTERNATIONAL_RDF-D
    @INTERNATIONAL_RDF-D 8 лет назад +13

    Ian shot right handed wtf

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 лет назад +28

      Is he allowed to do that??!

    • @bend1483
      @bend1483 8 лет назад

      lol

    • @INTERNATIONAL_RDF-D
      @INTERNATIONAL_RDF-D 8 лет назад +2

      +InRangeTV ive never seen it happen he usually shoots left handed.
      Apologize if i offended anyone.

  • @MacInTheBox
    @MacInTheBox 2 года назад

    "...and we'll live with it."
    Famous last words.

  • @exploatores
    @exploatores 8 лет назад +84

    so that was why thousends of fanboys screamed in pain at the same time :)

    • @TroopperFoFo
      @TroopperFoFo 8 лет назад +3

      I can only imagine how many sill scream if they do a Lee Enfield or a Mauser. Just watched someone's else's videos on both of those and with a lot less mud neither preformed much better. The Lee performed better than the mauser in their video thow not by much.

    • @TroopperFoFo
      @TroopperFoFo 8 лет назад +3

      Heinrich Berndovsky I am guessing a Ross wouldn't do to well its a very complex action that needs to stay clean. A lebel would be interesting since it has a tube magazine instead of a box mag. It might work perfectly fine.

    • @WorkInProgressX
      @WorkInProgressX 8 лет назад +3

      +TroopperFoFo i think that the carcano mud test will end up to be pretty similar to any german bolt action rifle since it uses the Mauser mechanism

    • @exploatores
      @exploatores 8 лет назад

      *****
      Ross is from Canada and Lebel is from France.
      i Think a tub Magazine is worst, when it comes to mud.

    • @jackandersen1262
      @jackandersen1262 6 лет назад +2

      Your sure they weren’t screaming over the AK video?

  • @squatchubs6377
    @squatchubs6377 4 года назад

    Ian is shooting the right way finally!

  • @murphysmuskets
    @murphysmuskets 8 лет назад +7

    Loved the "Russian rifles are shit" there at the end! ;)

  • @jkalash762
    @jkalash762 4 года назад +1

    I love the Russian authenticity added during the cleaning process, nothing says Russia like beating your rifle in a wheelbarrow and pouring water on it to get it running again. 😂

  • @ThePlaceCannel
    @ThePlaceCannel 8 лет назад +5

    This failure on the mud test would most definitely transfer to a Finnish Mosin, correct? Since the receiver seems to be the same thing. The only things different are the stock, barrel and sights.

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 лет назад +14

      They're essentially the same thing, yes. ~Karl

    • @juhai7048
      @juhai7048 6 лет назад

      Sorry for necroing, but the Finnish Mosins may have a more fitting bolt group, so it might change things a bit. For better or for worse, I really can't tell which would it be.
      The thing is, Finnish soldiers usually took the bolts out of rifles of the Soviet soldiers (captured or killed) because they were more loose, and thus less susceptible to frost. Mud was never really an issue "up here".

  • @YourRulerSkeletos
    @YourRulerSkeletos 8 лет назад

    Dammit Ian, the front sight houses all the spirit power, you can't NOT have that.

  • @mrcaboosevg6089
    @mrcaboosevg6089 8 лет назад +3

    If you mud test a lee enfield, i will have to cry...

  • @jlindsey9946
    @jlindsey9946 7 лет назад +2

    "I've broken the magazine". I didn't think you could brake an internal magazine like that XD

  • @BigMek456
    @BigMek456 8 лет назад +133

    And that's why it's called the garbage rod

    • @TroopperFoFo
      @TroopperFoFo 8 лет назад +10

      I watched someone else videos with a Lee Enfield and a Mauser. Both failed with less mud but the lee Enfield did better than the Mauser.

    • @wjlasloThe2nd
      @wjlasloThe2nd 8 лет назад +17

      AFAIK, the Lee Enfield was generally the most reliable of the mainstream bolt actions (Mosin, Mauser/Springfields, Arisaka).
      But the point of the Mosin is that you don't have to ever clear a jam, you just buy/make another.

    • @BigMek456
      @BigMek456 8 лет назад +10

      wjlasloThe2nd
      Lee Enfield more reliable than an Arisaka? You wish.

    • @wjlasloThe2nd
      @wjlasloThe2nd 8 лет назад +5

      I was speaking in terms of the bolt-action design, not the rifle in particular. Arisaka is pretty much a beefed up Mauser. Whatever else makes the Arisakas reliable it's due to the specific rifle design, not the Mauser system.

    • @billmelater6470
      @billmelater6470 7 лет назад +18

      You put mud in any rifle where the action is exposed like that and you're going to have issues no matter who made it. I'm not in love with the rifles, but you don't hear too much about these rifles being failure prone. They did their job just as they were intended to do.

  • @jonathanpiccone6935
    @jonathanpiccone6935 8 лет назад

    dig the propper reload of a mosin stripper clip , top round lifted up then push down.

  • @tfbtv
    @tfbtv 8 лет назад +269

    Garbage rod.

    • @loganhoy2265
      @loganhoy2265 8 лет назад +68

      I knew you'd show up, Mauser fanboy, lol😀

    • @caboose309
      @caboose309 8 лет назад +17

      there is a reason 99% of modern hunting bolt actions use the Mauser action.

    • @supertroopercj5
      @supertroopercj5 8 лет назад +31

      +CaboosyMamusi because deer dont shoot back

    • @SporadicallySane
      @SporadicallySane 8 лет назад

      Just no...

    • @TroopperFoFo
      @TroopperFoFo 8 лет назад +18

      I would like to point it might be garbage but it was the rifle used by the White death the sniper with the most confirmed kills. It might be garbage but its the best garbage there is.

  • @ThePurelightning
    @ThePurelightning 8 лет назад

    You guys make a good team. Thanks for another informative video.

  • @allseriousness
    @allseriousness 5 лет назад +4

    Russian method:
    Attach bayonet.
    Charge.
    Die in a hail of machine gun fire.

    • @thatdude3938
      @thatdude3938 5 лет назад +1

      British/American method:
      Drop 100 000 tons of bombs on enemy positions.
      Capture the ruins.

    • @thatdude3938
      @thatdude3938 5 лет назад

      @@CutieCatSasha Yes. Especially when bombers target enemy cities, as it happens since 1943 all over the world. What a sight! Burning people. Smell of fried human meat. Suffocating kids. Human remains on the street, burned, mutilated, frozen in the most grotesque poses. Collapsed houses turned in monumental tombs of wretched stone. Can you smell it, son? That's liberty, which had come to you from the sky

    • @thatdude3938
      @thatdude3938 5 лет назад

      ​@@CutieCatSasha Instead of strategic bombers USSR produced a shitton of fighters and ground-attack planes. USSR definitely had the capability to create a powerful fleet for strategic bombing, but chose to make vehicles for direct support of ground forces. Why? There were idiots in Soviet planning bureau or they just realized that strategic bombing is useless? You could look up data. German industrial output was growing despite bombing, population was still supporting war effort until the very end, and bombing campaigns did almost nothing to help actual campaign for the majority of victims were civilians. Dresden, Hamburg, Pforzheim, Swinemuende, Darmstadt, Kassel and many others - these bombings targeted civilians and not the army. Firebombing of Tokyo, a testament to this campaign on Pacific front took lives of more that 100.000 people, mostly civilians, in a single raid. That's a terror campaign, nothing less.
      And much smaller losses of Allies on Western Front are explained simply by the fact that there were no battles of such magnitude as on Eastern Front and Germans were never so eager to fight western Allies as ferociously as they were fighting soviets.

    • @kyivdweller
      @kyivdweller 4 года назад

      ​@@thatdude3938 Both the US and GB are separated by the sea/ocean so that strategic bombers are the best choice for them. On the contrary, Third Reich and USSR were engaged in a grand continental warfare, thus the emphasis on groundsupport. Actually, Germans desired to create strategic airfleet, its just that their resources were limited, so they concentrated on a cost-effective one engine Stuka's. This lack of strategic airforce predetermined the Battle of England, that is what Cajus Bekker states in "The Luftwaffe War Diaries: The German Air Force in World War II".
      Indeed, Allied airstrikes targeted infrastructure behind the lines, that is generally civil population. Certainly it is a dubious deed, even war crime by the modern standards. Alas, WWII was a total war, and everybody practiced it. Didn't you know that the Germans, the Soviets and all the rest also burned numerous cities, Coventry from the air, Stalingrad, Berlin or Warsaw - with artillery etc. "German industrial output was growing despite bombing" that is what Soviet propaganda would say after 1945 to diminish the original Allied effort.
      It amuses me how people blemish the so called "liberty" (albeit truly imperfect!) without considering its far more disgusting alternatives - nazi/soviet totalitarian states.

  • @SaftonYT
    @SaftonYT 6 лет назад

    Why do I snicker uncontrollably every time Ian slaps the bolt handle against the edge of the wheelbarrow?

  • @102ndsmirnov7
    @102ndsmirnov7 4 года назад +3

    Seeing a man with an SS helmet german poncho like camo and a Mosin in the US is quite funny.

    • @ArpaZha
      @ArpaZha 4 года назад

      Achievement unlocked! : multi national

  • @rageagainstthehygiene2357
    @rageagainstthehygiene2357 7 лет назад

    Considering the go-to tactic of artillery barrages immediately before infantry assaults, I totally expect that enough mud and dirt was kicked over the trenches that a really large portion of these rifles would've been inoperable during an enemy advance. Honestly the difference between this and the mauser could've been a deciding factor on strategic fronts. Crazy.

  • @Deenz17
    @Deenz17 8 лет назад +3

    smle mk 3 mud test?

  • @Panzerkopf
    @Panzerkopf 8 лет назад

    Fascinating! I kinda expected the loose tolerances to let the rifle chug along nicely, so this was an eye-opener.

    • @TheRealColBosch
      @TheRealColBosch 8 лет назад

      As we're discovering, when it comes to mud, looser tolerances just mean more space for pebbles to get wedged in. But, of course, loose tolerances mean less expense to manufacture and less likelihood of becoming fouled out of commission, so it's a trade-off.

    • @hippoace
      @hippoace 8 лет назад

      +TheRealColBosch well loose tolerances do help in extreme heat or cold.

  • @Joerifleman
    @Joerifleman 8 лет назад +4

    what jacket is he wearing?

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  8 лет назад +10

      ruclips.net/video/LC0xgK3d9do/видео.html

    • @hansdiller5697
      @hansdiller5697 8 лет назад +1

      Heer pattern Sumpftarn smock.

  • @nyanrapier7838
    @nyanrapier7838 3 года назад +1

    Mosin: *Fails on clean test fire*

  • @PartTimeJedi
    @PartTimeJedi 8 лет назад +21

    to all the Mosin fans.. let the butt hurt flow!

    • @shockwave6213
      @shockwave6213 5 лет назад

      Ok, so let's see your favorite rifle get covered in this kind of mud, and see if it functions.
      But seriously, what's your favorite rifle?

    • @shockwave6213
      @shockwave6213 5 лет назад

      @B.O.S Ranger Hawke No gun could hold up to that kind of mud. Filled with pebbles and gritty stuff to gum up the works.

  • @jamesrunions4553
    @jamesrunions4553 3 года назад

    When I'm having a bad day. I watch InRange

  • @quintusantonius9375
    @quintusantonius9375 4 года назад +1

    just now discovered this. I have a sneaking suspicion that most of the bolt actions of the period would perform poorly, considering they have nothing to prevent mud/trash from getting on/in the bolt area. Makes sense why several nations made mud guards or dust covers for their respective bolt action rifles.
    Edit: Also, the Mosin was never the best rifle to begin with, and nearly everyone who used them seems to have known that :P

  • @shockwave6213
    @shockwave6213 5 лет назад

    It's hilarious how my first thought when it got stuck closed was "Just slam the bolt and beat it open." Ah, we Mosin Nagant owners are a very civilized and refined group of mil-surp enthusiasts. Although mine has a bolt that slides like butter. Could be the good cleaning I gave it, or the fact that it's a matched number 1940 Tula, so it's a pre- "OH SHIT, WE NEED MILLIONS OF THESE NOW!" production guns.

  • @jesseusgrantcanales
    @jesseusgrantcanales 4 года назад

    Mine is made in '38 and it is a honey, also I use Ballistol and Hoppe's no. 9 on it too a lot; shot it a lot even with Tula Ammo, I love my Mosin and I find it very reliable; but I also mostly use Winchester Deer Rounds.

  • @Lutz101
    @Lutz101 8 лет назад

    The Mauser 98 service rifle is beautiful and has a strong front locking action that can be readily rechambered for a wide range of rimless hunting rounds like the 9.3x62mm big game round, but was a second-rate service rifle. The simpler and more robust Mosin-Nagant (pronounced ‘Mo-seen Na-gon’) - which was affectionately called the “Mosinka” by Russian soldiers - is a much better service rifle thanks in large part to its quick release magazine floorplate that allows quick and easy cleaning if dust, sand, dirt or mud gets into the action without the use of tools. Even better is the Lee-Enfield service rifle which had a rear locking action that was far easier to clean if dust, sand, dirt or mud got into the locking lug recesses, and uses easily cleaned quick detachable 10 round magazine (double the capacity of the 98 and Mosinka which use non-detachable magazines). You can also single load a round directly into the chamber of the Mosinka and Lee-Enfield if something went wrong with the magazine without a problem, but try doing so with the 98 and you will likely break the extractor. The best Mauser type rifle is the contemporary CRF Winchester Model 70 which has a quick release magazine floorplate, a coned breech, an easy to use 3-positon side-swing safety that facilitates the use of a low mounted telescopic sight, and a bevelled extractor that allows you to single load a round directly into the chamber without breaking the extractor. That said, if I had to grab one of these rifles for use in any conditions I would grab a Lee-Enfield (No. 5 “Jungle Carbine”), but would favor a Mosinka (M38 Carbine) if I wanted the most rugged rifle; though the M70 is arguably better for use against dangerous game thanks to its CRF action (better feed reliability) and a safety that is much easier to use than those used by the 98 and the Mosinka (if not the Lee-Enfield which has an excellent safety). If debris gets into the front locking lugs recesses of the 98, Mosinka or M70 you will want a toothbrush and a water canteen to clean it out. Lee-Enfield rifles in good condition are no longer readily available but Mosinkas are. The Molot KO-91/30 M hunting rifle is essentially a refurbished Mosin-Nagant M91/30 service rifle with a shorter barrel, a turned down bolt handle to facilitate the use of telescopic sights, and a quick detach side mount like that those fitted to AK-47 assault rifles.

  • @Albukhshi
    @Albukhshi 6 лет назад

    Reminds me of that old Westinghouse commercial for a refrigerator, where the lady had a lot of issues with it...

  • @BenBomb5
    @BenBomb5 8 лет назад

    This makes me curious to see how rifles like the 98 and the SMLE do with mud. Great video guys!

  • @brianreddeman951
    @brianreddeman951 8 лет назад

    Beater of a rifle. Literally.

  • @WurledPeas
    @WurledPeas 8 лет назад

    The combat wheelbarrow jam clearing technique is Gunkid approved.

  • @barnabiswirley2132
    @barnabiswirley2132 8 лет назад

    I bought a Mosin (1944) and it worked well even after it rusted shut. true I had to kick the bolt open (literally kick). after that I loaded and fired 5 rounds no problem.
    what I had noticed about the Mosin was that they were masses produced by many different sources and often the parts aren't interchangeable because of this. So there will be some good ones and more often than not bad ones. still invest some money into one for upgrades and you can get a decent deer rifle.

  • @Erraddo
    @Erraddo 4 года назад +1

    I remember reading the Nagant's safety was hard to use with winter gloves, so it was often carried safety off, with one less round. So you just reload instead of trying to work the safety. Might be a myth.

  • @joerag6077
    @joerag6077 4 года назад

    I like these tests and I was super impressed by the AR. I'd really like it if you did some 'graded' mud tests. Like, total submerging but afterwards give it a spirited hand cleaning with a gloved hand before firing for a "mud test 2nd class" test. Then maybe a drop in mud and pick up "mud test 3rd class".

  • @Bryce70
    @Bryce70 6 лет назад

    Ayy one of the few mud test videos with comments enabled. I wish I could see the comments on other videos, I bet there was great discussion.

    • @InrangeTv
      @InrangeTv  6 лет назад

      +Bryce P No, it was just garbage.

  • @PhoenixBird9000
    @PhoenixBird9000 5 лет назад +1

    And this, comrades, is why rifle has bayonet.

  • @albertocastillo7936
    @albertocastillo7936 6 лет назад

    @3:10 What it's like trying to open the bolt on a mosin when it gets the so called "sticky bolt" lol. Still love these guns though

  • @behindthewolfseyes
    @behindthewolfseyes 7 лет назад +2

    I always have to smack the bolt open on these guns. Even clean, some of them won't open until you beat it like it owes you money.

  • @codyvon.
    @codyvon. 2 года назад

    A muddy Mosin, how cool.

  • @themassivefail9062
    @themassivefail9062 7 лет назад

    This is some really high quality mud you've got in these videos.
    Good to know that if ever someone is fixing for a shooting, I can just throw some mud at them and call it good. :)

  • @mickeydoodle6014
    @mickeydoodle6014 8 лет назад

    I only wish I could like this more than once.

  • @joeragnarok6777
    @joeragnarok6777 3 года назад

    I’m glad you did this I’m about to buy one

  • @cmasonw
    @cmasonw 2 года назад +2

    from 3:05 onward is just typical Mosin operation

  • @JazzJaRa
    @JazzJaRa 5 лет назад

    This video gave me the proof that it wasn't me not being strong enough to cycle a mosin nagant xD i was also bashing on it just to get the next round loaded..... then i gave up and went to a swedish single loading rifle :D

  • @joshuakochendarfer3663
    @joshuakochendarfer3663 6 лет назад

    Favorite mud test yet! I just keep imagining a hord of Germans running towards them while he tries to free the jam. lol How scary!

  • @bones020694
    @bones020694 8 лет назад

    excellent stuff guys. keep up the good work