M1D Garand Sniper
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The M1D was the final adopted form of John Garands sniper M1 rifle, originally the M1E8. It was intended to be a kit issued in the field to add optical sights to any rifle deemed worthy, and retained that capability in a slightly different form than originally intended. Garland’s initial plan was to design a sleeve that could fit over the barrel of a rifle, with a scope mounting bracket - the final production version instead used a new whole barrel with the scope mount integrally attached. However, this new barrel was still a part easily installed by a field armorer.
The scope was offset to the left of the receiver so as not to interfere with the Garand’s clip loading, and issued with a leather cheek pad to give the shooter’s cheek weld a matching offset to the left. The scope used with the M1D was the M84, a 2.2x optic with a simple vertical post reticle and hinger metal covers to protect the windage and elevation adjustment knobs. Accuracy of the M1D was not substantially different from regular M1 rifles, with its advantage coming from magnified optics rather than improved mechanical accuracy.
The M1D was adopted too late to see significant service in the Korean War, and would serve until replaced by the M14 and M40 rifles.
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its really strange how back then it was normal to have ludicrously long range iron sights, but low power optics.
Maybe people had better eye sight. Lol mines worse than my dads
Yeah, volley fire is the reason. Plus the concept of indirect "plunging" fire, where you could deliver rounds on the enemy from behind a hill or other cover. The strange thing is that volley fire was never used and plunging fire was only effective with machine guns, yet they kept putting those super long range sights on infantry rifles for about a century. Talk about being slow to change.
A truly ridiculous example is the Gewehr 98's sights during WW1, which had a *minimum* setting of 400m (all the way up to 2,000m lol). Since virtually all combat took place at shorter ranges than that, and production issues meant that an improved sight was never introduced during the war, German soldiers simply had to learn to adjust their point of aim.
+Brett DuVale
Is plunging fire basically just "spray n' pray" when running from cover to cover?
Patrick Walston no its like an artillery strike, but with bullets.
+Patrick Walston No, it's like Salt Detected said (just beat me to the answer lol). With a mounted machine gun, you could run the sights out to usually around 3000-4000m, which angled the gun upwards like a howitzer and allowed you to create a beaten zone of gunfire somewhere beyond your line of sight. During WW1 especially, this was used to interfere with backline trenches, staging areas, and road junctions. I've also seen some recorded instances of it being used by second-line machine gunners to provide supporting fire on No Man's Land as the first line was being attacked.
The increasing mobility of warfare has made this less of a thing. It's still taught as a tactic and sometimes used to engage enemies behind distant cover, but usually only if better weapons (like mortars or grenade launchers) aren't available. Especially since armies are more reliant on lighter, more portable machine guns nowadays, they can't reach out to the same ranges with the same stability & endurance that a static water-cooled gun could.
The M1D's saw a lot of action with southern forces in vietnam.
Very interesting 👍 I had no idea the M1D saw action in Vietnam.
@@barneymiller7894 really the only war it saw use in, actually, but it was the last war for the M1.
I used one extensively in operation Rising Storm 2
Unfourtently they were very cumbersome for the South Vietnam troops.
@@coolstorybro_cant_wait_4_movie The army of the republic of Vietnam had soldiers who were built different, and complained alot, but when they were able to properly use the rifles, they worked
The M1D soldiered on in both the Regular Army and the National Guard until the adoption of the M24. I was issued an M1D in the 47th ID (NG Division with a brigade in MN, IA and IL) Sniper School in 1988. They had a few serviceable M21s but they went to the left handed shooters as the M1D is right handed only. By 1988 the M84 telescopes were pretty worn out and if you couldn't zero it they changed out the complete system as they were afraid that continually swapping scopes onto the worn lugs would take up too much time. I wish my father had still been alive so we could have talked about our experiences with the M1, his in Korea and mine in sniper school in the late 1980s. A few months later the M24s started appearing in units and the Army opened the Sniper School at Ft Benning after that all of the unit sniper schools shut down. Thanks for bringing back some nice memories.
Jeff White What did you think of it as a overall sniper rifle or DMR system?
Bradley Veal It’s hard to really judge because the M84s were in such bad shape. I wouldn’t hesitate to use one with a decent optic but there are so many better options these days. We single loaded every round because the match ammo didn’t come in enbloc clips. I’m sure that could be fixed if one wanted to use it in that role.
The requirement to load and eject from the top of the receiver really makes it unsuitable to use with the optics we use now.
They used to train snipers for each unit individually? Thats interesting. I always wondered why the idea of snipers went back to ww1 but us army sniper school or marine scout sniper school didnt open until the 70s and 80s.
@@natelav534 The Army didn’t have a formal Sniper School and an additional skill identifier for completing it until 1988. Prior to that units conducted their own sniper programs. For the most part sniper rifles sat unused in unit arms rooms throughout the Cold War. There was a mixture of M1Ds and M21s in the field. The Korean War vintage M1D was the most common sniper rifle in the field until the M24 on the Remington 700 long action was fielded. There were never enough M21s to equip the force and they required too much maintenance support to keep them firing accurately enough to meet the standard required for the mission. The glass bedded stock was the big weakness of the M21.
@@jeffwhite3679 really is too bad that the m21 was too expensive to make and mantain. What a gorgeous and extremely well made rifle. But i can see why we went back to bolts for affordable and maintanable extreme accuracy. Not like youll get too many chances to shoot at your target twice.
Never saw service in WW2.
Doesn't stop Carl Fairburn to have and use one.
Sniper Elite is a kinda wacky game in that regard.
Well. If anyone would have one, it would be him.
But Karl would've never used an M1C or D. He wouldn't use a rifle he couldn't trust.
@@vitoscaletta7151 Even more interesting is that he has it in the battle of el alamain.
glad i got the complete edition, traded that thing out for the tuned springfield before i even started the game.
Even though it's not realistic, I love when games include experimental and esoteric guns along with the more common ones. It just shows how dedicated they were to researching the era, while giving us fun little factoids we can literally play with.
Meanwhile back in the real world. 🙄
My dad carried the M1D in Vietnam. Rest in peace dad.
Gary "Goofy Grape "Gilmer
5th SFG camp A325 Duc Hue
If you don't mind me asking, why didn't they issue him an M14 or the XM21? It's the same action as the M1, but with a magazine and about 10 different modern improvements...
@@Rutherford_Inchworm_III He was in the marines in the mid 50s and was issued a standard M1. He was comfortable with it. Also the M1 fires a larger round than the M14.
M1D Is Suck Dad Why You Use That, Why You Not Use STG 44 Dad?
@@cervezadog6957 Fair nuff. Thanks for the reply.
@@derostdeutsche7196 Because he also carried an AK47 every once in a while, which fires a larger round than the G44, not to mention that the AK is way more reliable and easier to maintain. He stopped using his AK when he started booby trapping the ammo with C-4 behind the primer.
I have an M-1D that is original to include the flash suppressor as well as the leather cheek piece. My handloads shoot very well and it is a great piece of history.
This was my dream gun. Then I bought one. They are ice-cold guns
I don't even know what that means, but they are.
It means they're cooler than the fridge and the freezer
you gotta be cold as ice to wield an ice-cold gun.
TheGoldenCaulk Alright, now fellas... what's cooler than being cool?
Ice Cold!
TheGoldenCaulk it's a true dome popper's rifle
TheGoldenCaulk Just hold it with the outside edge of your hand and you won't snap your thumb off.
Woah, time travel.
Published today and comments from 5 days ago
Was thinking the same thing.
It wasn't made public, but we could view it through hyperlinks in his other "sniper" videos. I watched all of them the day after he posted the second or third vid in the series. I read every description.
@@zachprows2691 bad day?
@@BurnTheNuance He's throwing shade.
Ha
We got these as sniper rifles in 1978, in 2nd Bn, 48th Infantry (Dragoons) 3rd Armored Division, in Germany. We had several marksmanship exercises with German Forestmeisters.
Oddly, we had these M1D rifles at the company level in the 82nd ABN DIV (2/504th PIR) as late as summer 1974. They were in caliber .30’06, and everything else was 5.56 or 7.62x51mm. LTC Alexander
I joined a Mech Inf Bn in the TXARNG in the late '70s. The issue SWS was the M1D. This was convenient for me because I had used the M1D to go through the US Army "military stakes" sniper course in early '73, and all the XM21s were still "in country". I was made the BN Marksmanship NCO, and identified shooters in all our companies to compete in the State level matches, where exists the opportunity to compete at higher levels. During that first year, I developed shooters into Company Marksmanship Coordinators to relieve me of having to oversee all those shooters. I had several left-handed shooters, including my partner, and had to help them figure out how to use the weapon without loosening their teeth any more than necessary! We never used the snap-on flash hiders. One of our rifles was a hybrid, wearing the long-prong flash hider that was integral to the gas cyliinder lock. I loved the system but was still glad when our State property book officer was talked into signing us out an XM21. Since I was already using an NM M14 to shoot Hi-Power, it was an easy transition, and we used our range sessions to work up a logbook and range cards for it. However when we shot out way up to the NG Nationals, when we lay down on the KD range for zeroing, we looked up to see a horseshoe of NGMTU cadre around us. They asked us "Are y'all gunna shoot that thang?" and took us to their armory to assign us an M24, which we used cold for that match. So as soon as we got home, we were headed back to the PBO and obtained an M24 to use for the rest of the cycle at the All-Reserve and All-Army matches.
I wish I was stupid rich. So many guns, so little money. :-(
well, you can always make your own
@@juanagonzalez5751 3D printed FGC-9
@@PEJK6771 3d printed guns are the pinacle of fucking stupidity
@@tunderstorm2769 theres a quiet kid at my school, he said that he liked 3d printed guns. Im not sure why tho...
@@misterpotato427 how would anyone like plastic guns
My grandfather served in Korea, he told about service men in the 82nd who actually used m1 snipers, really cool to actually see one.
Great gun. I always wondered about these being used for sniping. I know bolt action is always preferred, but there's a lot to be said about a gun that can also defend you in close quarters.
Honestly it's surprising to hear that the army wanted a rifle with the scope permanently attached instead of one that could be added and removed in the field.
Picctiny really spoiled us, huh?
I absolutely love my 30 06 ,it's a Winchester 70 with a 10x power scope and it's deadly accurate at 500 yards with very little drop ,at 500 yards I can hit the 10 ring most rounds at the range ,at 1,000 yards I'm good for 7 out of 10 rounds on target with the hot hand loads I use, the 30 06 chambered in a long barrel rifle is 1 of the best combinations I've ever fired and I've fired quite a few .
The 30-06 - especially when loaded with heavier and more-aerodynamic projectiles, such as bullets of 175-180-grains and up, and using the appropriate powder - can really be a very good long-range cartridge. Using a slower-burning propellant and something like a Hornady 208-grain EMD-Match, the bolt-action M70 in 30-06 is a legitimate 1400-1500 yard cartridge. Even with something milder, like a Berger 185-grain VLD Hybrid, is still good for 1250-1300 yards, which is still excellent performance. Does the venerable 30-06 do everything the best? No, but as a general-purpose cartridge, it is very hard to beat, because it does almost everything well, even very well. If I had to pick only one bolt-action center-fire rifle cartridge for all uses, the '06 would be my pick. And if I had to pick just one bolt-gun to use it with, it would be a trusty M70! Can't beat the classics!
M1D's are pretty common. A bunch came back from Israel. 3 of my friends own one. In pristine condition, and they shoot well.
I used to see these regularly at local gun shows
this video was an unbelievable help to me and my work. thank you so much.
A secret video... so, we are all getting 1,000 rounds of 5.56! Thanks, Ian, you're the best!
I was always curious why it was so hard to mount a scope on a garand in WW2.
The M-1 Garand employed a top-loading/ejecting system in which a full 8-round en-bloc clip of 30-06 ammunition was loaded into the open action through the top of the receiver, prior to closing the bolt to chamber a round. Once empty, the clip is ejected via the same route. This location is precisely where a traditional scope would be mounted. In order to bypass or get around this, the 2.5x power scope used for the sniper variants of the M-1 was mounted off-set to the left of the receiver, to allow clearance for insertion/ejection of the en-bloc clip. To bring the shooter's eye into alignment behind the scope, a leather cheek pad (laced to the stock) was employed. In all, a somewhat unconventional but workable set-up. The Garand's origins in the 1920s are probably to blame; in those days almost a century ago, rifle-mounted optics/scopes were still relatively in their infancy and somewhat rare. Especially on a semi-automatic like the Garand. The Germans and Russians did try low-power optics on their respective WWII-era semi-automatic rifle designs, but the practice didn't really catch on until later, when self-loading rifles became the norm for military forces. The successor to the Garand in U.S. service, the M-14, had a provision for mounting a scope, and since it was fed through a box magazine under the receiver, and ejected to the side, that didn't cause problems for a receiver-mounted optic.
The capability simply wasn't designed-in.
Can always count solid videos from you. Kudos sir.
The M1 Garand Is my favorite weapon out of every gun and i did not even know this was here in life
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I came to this video thinking oh you'd already made a video on it so I don't have to wait for the new one but this is the new one and that is good.
Thank you for the related video list was interested in seeing this after your m1c video
How can this be forgotten ? Ever use this in Medal of Honor ? Best sniper ever
Sugoi Club European Assault right? Looked this garand up after playing it.
Yes sir
Did this have a scope in MOH? I remember the Lee Enfield being the sniper in MOHAA. Could've been the Springfield. Which MOH game do you mean?
@@stopandlisten6070 European Assault and Vanguard. It's also in Sniper Elite 2, 3, 4.
My grandfather, Bill Krilling used one of these in Korea.
These also seen a lot of use in Central America during the Civil Wars. The Salvadoran Army used the M1D Garand during the early 1980s extensively in combat against the FMLN. These were also used by the Nicaraguan National Guard during the 1978-1979 Sandinista Revolution and the Guatemalan Army during the early-mid 1980s as well.
i got to buy one of these last week and im just waiting on my background check to pick this bad boy up
That is a truly nice piece you have there.
My favourate is the german kar98 with ajax scope
If ever there was a candidate for a Scout system, it's the M1 Garand. Yes, it's been done.
My personal one has the Ulti-Mak scout rail with a Leatherwood 2-7X LER optic in QD rings. The range marks in the scope give me very handy E-silhouette hits out to 600M with M72 Match or my clone of that load with Sierra 175 gr MKs.
Neat follow up video to the other material on WW2-Korea vintage US sniper rifles. I spoke with a USAR officer in the late 70s who mentoned that his unit was authorized two M21 sniper rifles but due to shortages they had a pair of M1Ds in their arms locker.
How long will we have to wait for a video on the M1Z?
Youd think that guys who were issued Garands sniper configuration would have been also issued things like small, very fine surfacing stones to deal with any potential dinging of the mounting surfaces on the scope. As well as being taught about the dangers of over-tightening and cross-threading.
There's a mod for Fallout 4 that adds the M1, and also offers this exact scope system.
The Germans fielded a designated marksman variant of the K98 during WWII. The scope was a long eye relief 1.5x mounted ahead of the action, so that stripper clips could still be used. Seems like that would’ve been a simpler solution to the problem than an offset mount with a fat cheekpiece. And the low magnification is a real head scratcher, especially when you consider the Marines were using 8 and 10x Unertyl scopes at the time.
they're not forgotten they're LEGEND
There’s a RUclips channel where a guy and his kids shoot old scoped military rifles like this and K-98s only at 1,000 yds. Amazing how long the sound of a hit on the gong takes to get back to them. Impressive to see teens getting hits consistently at that range. Way to Dad!
sneaky ian, very sneaky indeed
All these garand videos make me want to watch firepower united's new video again
0:57 He explained that just as i was about to look up the M1C thinking "I could have sworn that it was the M1C, i must be going insane"
What a cool weapon, thanks for sharing.
I have a D....took off the scope, but that glass bedded nasty does quite well for my terrain, Ghost Rings and tiny pings.
Very professional video and knowledgeable.
I saw one of these at a gun show in Savanah Georgia for 1100
Very nice review, thanks for sharing.
In the late 1970s or early 1980s the 3rd Armored Division issued M-1D rifles as platoon sniper rifles to mechanized infantry platoons. We even got some old .30/06 ammunition for them, to complement the M193 ball 5.56mm, the 7.62mm NATO for our M-60 machine guns, and 12.7mm BMG for our M-2 Heavy Barrel machine guns.
That M-72 ain't bad stuff. I still have two cans stashed.
looks mighty cool
The Quintessential Weapon of War.
It would be cool to make a modern m1 D conversion kit
I'm goofy eyed (right handed but left eyed) so this looks awesome to me
Wait so I'm not just a fucking weirdo this happens to others
I thought I was the one goofy in the world
@@6Six6Six6Bruh by weird you mean a minority of people.
Um, no. My left-handed, left-eyed shooters had hell getting their left eyes onto the exit pupil without busting themselves in the teeth with the rear of the receiver.
A genuine M1D has an M1D barrel and scope mount assembled onto a regular production M1, and this was done possibly post-production in the field by Sgt Pretty-Good-Armourer.
A fake M1D has an M1D barrel and scope mount assembled onto a regular production M1, and this was done post-production in a shop by Mr Pretty-Good-Gunsmith.
Having trouble seeing the difference. Yeah, there is one, but this is very different from other fakes.
Buying one soon so happy
I like to build "Era Sim Guns" Air rifles the "Simulate" the sighting systems of famous guns. It took me forever to figure out how to assemble an M1C/D version.....
Solution, a pair of 45 degree offset picatinny rails with the appropriate rings. Now I have a .177cal Ruger Air Hawk Elite II with a Firefield 1-6x24mm Rapidstrike offset to the left side similar to the M1C/D and it still has the ability to use the open sights.
Beautiful gun
No ping interference!
COD WAW flashbacks
Pow pow pow pow pow clang
it was the best. head shots for days
Actually it's: Pow Pow Pow Pow Pow Pow Pow Pow Clang
The M1 Garand makes 8 Pow's. :-|
chrisloUSA semantics sir.
Ants In My Eyes Johnson Fair enough... :-(
Best sniper in Rising Storm 2: Vietnam!
Agreed
Learnt about this gun from there
cant wait to try it out when the game goes free on Epic tomorrow, then!
It's just a game, but it really made me appreciate this design. There are a lot of scoped rifles out there with iron sights that give you awful tunnel vision- that's the last thing I'd want if I were using iron sights instead of a scope!
One attachment point is dumb as hell tho
Very arguably.
I knew a guy that had an M1 grand had a scope on it but it was an off to the side it was right over and the receiver was mailed out so that the gun could eject cool stuff
I bought a Springfield M1 that looked basically UNFIRED in 1988 for $225.
Back then Shotgun news had M1D kits with the barrel block and scope mount for $90... Surplus barrels were under $200.
I just never put the $300 together to get it...
How I wish I had.🙄
Bought a Winchester M-1for $375 at a Army surplus store in 1985 while looking for 303 ammo. Shot it for a couple of years then it sat in a safe. Around 2012 when my son started to get into shooting after research, found this Jan 44 Winchester was all original even the sling. looking at the condition it never left the states. I only put about 800 rounds thru it . The gun might have 2000 rounds thru it. Got lucky.
Thank you
There's one these in a display across the corridor from the Secretary of the Army's office in the Pentagon.
I lost the use of my left hand which rules out left handed shooting in the same injury that took my right eye. This might allow me to rejoin my marksmanship improving journey
when he cycles the bolt at 3:57 it damn near left me breathless
astreet cone why?
It appeared to be pretty smooth, didn't it. 😁
They make reproductions of these scopes. Haven't looked into the mounts, but I wonder if there would be a way to throw one if these on an M1A for ultimate nostalgia. 🤔
Is this the rifle seen in the bridge scene in Bridge of Spies? I don't recall any exact features about it but I know there were scoped M1s...
I believe it is
I always wondered why they just didn't mount on top like a regular rife and make a kit to trap door feed with a new block or simular on the trap door like a lot of browning rifles do.
It's not a hard or complicated thing to do because a company in Texas does it and box mag conversion
One optics/mounts company made a version that hinged over to the left to get out of the way of inserting a fresh clip. IDR who it was rt now but the rcvr had to be drilled & tapped for it.
Thanks for the vid sir.
that flashhider hella interesting
There's a outfit in Texas that does 3 different mods to mount a scope traditionally on a garand
1 top load one shell at a time till full and hand eject all out.
2 a bottom plate swing out trap door like you see on browning rifles with a fixed removable mag.
I think you can still single top load it as well as switch back to garand style ejected clips.
3 is a external type removable box magazine. I belive it's a browning bar style mag
Scout Scopes are the way to go. There's clamps and mount styles. The scope site forward past the ejection port.
When sportsmen first started buying Garands, G&H reintroduced a version of their M1 side mount. It required drilling & tapping as did the M1C mount, placed the optic more centrally, and had a longitudinal hinge that allowed the whole optic to be tilted to the left to clear the way of inserting a fresh clip. There was a detent or lock to retain it in the firing position. IIRC, the bottom edge was milled with an angle that facilitated ejection. I remember seeing their ads in the Rifleman. When the time came to scope my personal Garand, I used the UltiMak scout rail with a Leatherwood 2-7X LER optic in QD mounts, and a set of NM rear sight and Kensight tritium front.
Maine? i may have to hop the border and take in the auction!
... time to refresh the brain on buying from the US
That parkerization is friggin gorgeous!!!
I used one of these in competition at camp perry this year, it did extremely well for me and is a fine rifle.
It seems to me that it would have been a lot better to have a threaded barrel for a screw-on flash hider.
Simply not designed-in.
This scope is available for nearly every single rifle in Battlefield V...
Except it's mounted backwards so it's centre lined...
there must be some internal rule in DICE requiring each weapon model to have at least one inexplicable cock-up
This rifle was also added in Papers Please!
Even if there were a few flaws or cons to the M1C and M1D sniper conversions of the standard M1, using modern day technology that may not have existed back when the M1C and M1D variants were first invented, and a standard M1 as a base, what would you consider to be the best way to convert an M1 to where it could be effectually used as a Sniper Rifle if one were to experiment with a standard M1 and a variety of different types of scopes and methods of mounting them on?
On my personal Garand, I installed the Ulti-Mak scout rail, with the Leatherwood 2-7X LER optic in good quality QD rings. With M72 Match, or my clone of it with SMK 175s, the drop marks in the scope give me dependable torso hits on E silhouettes out to the last mark, which is 600M. The rifle also has the NM rear sight and the Kensight tritium front, which is the same width as the NM piece. It's had a NM-spec trigger job and is bedded into a Bell & Carlson fibreglas stock, the adjustable gas bleed screw, and a very effective comp. I removed the stacking swivel, drilled the fore-end for QD swivel studs, and replaced the rear swivel with a drop-in QD stud. Now it's able to use a bipod. The only thing it still "needs" is a match barrel, and my only disappointment is that the Ulti-Mak attaching arrangement will not work with the Krieger heavy barrel, so I'll have to get their service model.
I call this rifle my M1-E.
My best friend has one of these!
What a mass!
I saw on of these at my gun store and I am so sad that I didn't buy it
it even comes with a loudener
thats an old school conical flash suppressor my friend.
That's what mine has, but the vendor calls it a compensator...
Nice weapon
I want one of these! They're just too expensive! The last M1D I came across went for $3,600
I have seen them as high as $7500-$8000.00.
@@howardamey7767 The Marines M1Cs get that kind of money. M1Ds cap out at 5k.
very awesome
Forget using a suppressor. I'm using a loudener
Can anyone here give some insight to what the process was like when the US military was transitioning from the 1903s to M1 Garand?
What about the T37 flash hider? Were those adopted later?
Hey Ian, how would a field armorer change a barrel in the field? I am not too savvy with the process myself, but isn't there a need to use precision tools to fix headspace?
There is a headspace tool, install it, then screw the barrel down over it, and stake or pin the barrel. Remove the tool.
Yes, solo sight
Unit armorers (organizational maintenance) were not authorized to replace barrels on either the M1 or M14 rifles. Barrel had to be replaced at depot level maintenance. See TM 9-1005-222-35. Otherwise great video.
Yes, the change to the integral scope block did away with shooting all your M1s to find candidates for conversion. You just took your chances with the new barrel.
I wonder if you remove the cheek pad would a left eyed shooter be able to use the optic?
nah. not in a practical sense, youd have to have your head too far over on the stock. youd have hellish neck stiffness after a day of shooting.
And how about the other flash hider of the m1d??
I was a SWAT team leader in the 1970's in the Delaware Army National Guard and my snipers used the M1D. So Ian, you see that they in fact did see military service although not in combat.
i rememeber someone saying the south vieatnam snipers used them during the vieatnam war
I'll bet that the marksmen of that era had to roll to the right to shoot this gun properly, hence the "crooked" eyepiece shroud. Accuracy at any distance requires that the scope vertically align with the barrel. Thus, the scope really needed a counter-clockwise rotation.
Imagine lying on that cheek pad like a pillow, with your arm under the stock.
Eeeesh! You are quite wrong in your thinking on this
We did away with that problem by zeroing the rifle at 100 Y at the same amount of offset as on the gun. That way it was only a linear error rather than an angular one, and we found that the error still gave us dependable hits.
The flash suppressor and accuracy, I doubt that. However the rattle is a dead give away especially on recon, patrol or at night when both sides are gonna start shooting at the rattle til it goes away. Seen that happen a few times.
Do you think that scope mount would work on a FN49?
@ 7:20 You dress the surfaces Ian.
Odd that you don't mention the most salient feature of this system: It can only be used by right eye dominant right handed shooters.
My 2nd Bn 141st Mech Inf snipers would disagree. Several of them were left-handed and left-eyed but carried on with their M1Ds, ignoring the loose teeth from interference with the back of the receiver and their chins.
German sniper Sepp Allerberger witnessed a M1 Garand converted as a sniper rifle when he was captured by US forces in Austria.