The M1D Sniper Rifle, the most lethal version of the M1 Garand
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- The M1 / M1D was a Garand made into a Sniper Rifle. And while it filled the role as a DMR more it still did well at it's job. The M1D never saw action in WW2 or Korea and mostly saw limited service during the Vietnam War. I hope you enjoy today's video as we delve into the M1D
00:00 M1 / M1D Garand Sniper Rifle
0:42 M1 / M1D Garand Sniper Rifle Intro
5:35 M1 / M1D Garand Sniper Rifle 350 yard test
8:30 M1 / M1D Garand Sniper Rifle 405 yards
10:09 M1 / M1D Garand Sniper Rifle 500 yards
14:00 M1 / M1D Garand Sniper Rifle review
16:30 M1 / M1D Garand Sniper Rifle M84 Scope 2.2x
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Garand Thumb reviewing a Garand is like Dipping your Fries into more mash potatoes
It's called a Return to Sender. You should try it with more food.
And Mustard. Uh huh. It's a little known fact, that the word for Mustard in Estonia, is SINEP. Which when spelled backward is?
I'm not hearing anything bad 😁
I dịp my icecream cone into my bowl of ice cream
Just as Allah intended.
_"This 2 power scope is 100% better than iron sights"._
Mathematically, this checks out.
It does indeed
90% of the time it works 100% of the time
Exponentially correct.
Maybe Garand Thumb isn't used to shooting targets passed 8 yards like his usual videos.
because 100% is twice the original..
do you guys get it?
As an avid follower of Forgotten Weapons, I love and very much appreciate how often Mr. Thumb tells folks to go check out forgotten weapons, don’t know if anyone else has caught this. It’s good to see the gun tubers encouraging greater exposure to all facets of the community
I have a Springfield bull barrel sniper rifle with the peeps on it, bought it of a hippie that thought it was a shot gun, it has the nazi swastikas stamped for kills , I've never found another like it accept the peep sights( which are worth a lot) ever heard of such a rifle?
Ian McCollum is the OG of Guntubers. None of these guys would exist without him! And maybe FPS Russia? I'd like to see GT hand this to Henry of 9 hole reviews.
@@kenlandrover Ian & Karl from inrangeTV are the OG and imo still the best.
that channel talks about weapons. they don't test them.
@@moenibus ForgottenWeapons absolutely does do range/test videos.
The BF5 music playing softly throughout the background really brings this video home for some reason.
Yeah! Epic! Brings back memories when loading into the next push
I knew thats what it was!!!!!
What's the exact song?? I'm going through the OST and can't find it
@@roundhousekick29 under no flag towards the end
@@roundhousekick29 tirailleur at start
You know, not many youtubers interact nor credit their cameraman. Micah is such a critical part of this team, and I just love how much involvement Mike gives him in the videos. It takes a good team to make great videos, and this is a great team.
I agree 100%.
Wow….garand thumbs comment is blocked here. What the hell
@@herrent yea happens all the time and its super annoying
@@misterdeluxia5948 Noting like seeing only one or two comments in long reply thread
MATES
Dude. The way Admin just collapsed into that hill made of splinters and rocks. Where's that boys Academy Award for commitment to the bit?
With his next of kin probably lol
looked just like a war movie godayum
Yknow he actually died right?
@@CorkScrewDood fuck bro, rip young lad died fighting for freedom and his country rip ☕☮️🔥🗿💀
@@CorkScrewDood F
This was probably my favorite intro of a GT video. In case anybody was wondering what that footage was from, the US Army made a bunch of videos to show trainees telling them that even though the mg42 sounded scary, it was a bad weapon with bad accuracy. More than a few GIs were pissed when found out it was actually more of a death laser than anything lol
lol you could just link to it: ruclips.net/video/Oyj-ZHXFKQI/видео.html
Wow, that’s wild actually. I wonder if they did that on purpose to give false information and courage to the pvts.
Lindybeige has a good video on the MG42 in which he covers the personal account of a British soldier taking cover in a shallow ditch after being sighted by a German behind an MG42. The soldier said the German fired burst after burst but gave up after a while and didn't make a hit. The MG42 isn't really a point fire weapon on full auto, it really was meant to saturate and area with fire and to keep enemy heads down while the riflemen closed in with rifles and grenades
@@jdstark24 "MG42 isn't really a point fire weapon on full auto"
Yes, yes indeed that is exactly what it was designed to do and exactly what it did extremely well in combat. Lindy draws conclusions that are beyond reality because he's always more interested in a narrative than the truth.
"it really was meant to saturate and area with fire and to keep enemy heads down"
No, if it was meant to do that; it would've been water-cooled and had a rate of fire comparable to the old MG08 or the Vickers or Maxim or 1917 Browning. Instead what you see is a very high rate of fire designed to maximize the engagement window, similar to an aircraft machinegun. The idea is basically if you can shoot just one burst at your target at 1200 rounds a minute you're going to hit twice as many times within that same timeframe. None of this points to the weapon being used effectively in an indirect role. The Germans trained to do very very short bursts of say 5-6 rounds which when you double the rate of fire means you're halving the amount of time needed to get those rounds out to the target. Now obviously it's war so not everyone is going to be so disciplined to follow the exact procedures of how a weapon is designed to be used, but saying it's in any way an inaccurate weapon is why the beginning clip of this video is funny, because its bark was indeed as bad as its bite.
@@mahrko9455 Most likely. I can definitely imagine it being propaganda to try to continue advances past enemy defenses and not be trench warfare WW1-style all over again.
That "their bark's worse than their bite" scene was hilarious 🤣 Movie-quality comedy!
Clearly I still haven't unlocked my skill tree with the M1D, I'm a grind out some more Operation Metro games.
slottin floppies also applies to vietcong
That fall was next level.
Had me laughing for a solid minute
We need operation metro “ww2 guns only”
Nice Aaron
@@LosRiji perhaps it's Erin, and perhaps she has a huge hog.
I love how the gun community gets together to do fun intros like this
Tbh I come for the intros
GT is the most cinematic! KB is just gut busting 🤣🤣🤣
What community? I just see Charlie, Garand Thumb, and Garand Thumb’s balaclava-wearing clone.
That dive in the intro was spot on. Should be a stuntman! 😁
Gun channel intros are the best intros
I carried an M1 for 3 years while in the Army. It was absolutely deadly at 300 yards. We seldom fired at anything beyond than however occasionally vehicle shaped targets were used at 500 yards.Once the sight was adjusted and corrected they were easy to hit. Great rifle and I never got an M1 thumb.
You're lucky not to get garand thumb like most people who try to use one
@@fortnite.burger
It can be avoided if it’s loaded using the side of the hand against the op rod whilst pushing down with the thumb.
Though the WW2 manual says to just jam it in with the thumb
@@B2091 I agree, but with almost any other rifle you don't have to do a whole sequence of events just to not get your thumb jammed.
@@fortnite.burger
That’s true, the only other thumb biter I can think of is the M3A1 Grease gun.
I had one years ago, lent it to someone who managed to slice the top of their thumb off.
@@B2091 you had a m3a1 and sold it? That's crazy
I love how you hear the impact after he calls out the impact. That's a good spotter.
"There bark is worse than their bite"
D-Day Private: "Well that was a fucking lie"
That's no lie private: You only get hit by 14 bullets instead of 23!
8mm Mauser makes for a bad day!
My grandpa fought in Europe during WII. Anyway, when my uncle was a kid, sometime in the early 1950s, he watched my grandpa dive into the gutter after some kids lit off some firecrackers. The MG 42 terrorized soldiers; and I suspect, that the bite was in fact much worse than the bark lol.
You think I didn’t notice the battlefield 5 music in the background but I did, and I have used the M1 Garand with the scope in battlefield v as dmr, such a great weapon
I chucked on a pair of headphones to be sure I wasn’t hearing things
Bruh I noticed it instantly too lol
Such a good game. The snippet from the ww2 training video on how to confront a mg42 had me laughing pretty hard, I seem to remember that video also stated that the mg42 was very inaccurate as well. Poor bastards were lied to.
Same
Yeah immediately heard it. It was a perfectly good game, but it got crapped on so fast there wasn’t any hope for it later on.
1958-1963 looking at my old score book
M1 Match grade
600 yards open sights
Winning scores were 20 in the 20 inch Black with 10 in the 12 inch "V" Ring
Ammo 172 grain boattail.
I never saw an M1 Sniper rifle with a scope in the nearly 5 years I carried one
Our M1 Match did have some work, triggers, gas plug and glass bedding. Fitting of upper hand guard . And on the Match grade sights had 1/2 minute adjustments and "I think" a thinner front blade ??
As I understand it the "Match grade" were built from the first 100 new tool cut barrels
The "Sniper" barrels were supposedly the next 900 barrels.
In the 82nd Abn our "Scoped sniper rifles" were the M70 Winchester and a Remington M ???
With a 20 power scope
I competed at the all Army matches. Max range 600 yards prone slow fire
I sadly never made it to Camp Perry but at 1000 yards, open sights, 36 inch Black wining scores were usually 20 in the Black.
at 200 yards off hand 12 inch Black winning was usually 10 in the black
300 yards rapid fire IE 10 rounds in 60 seconds were 10 in the 12 inch Black .
Overall a score above 240 out of a possible 250 was "Competitive" until the All Army levels
Another bit of history the SAME KD Course of fire was used for the 1903 A3
The only difference was 70 seconds for rapid fire, sitting OR Kneeling.
On several occasions I competed with the 03 A3 in civilian matches and although I found the Springfield more comfortable to shoot my books show with a 2 Grove barrel accuracy was comparable
Great insight. I commented that Id love to see an accuracy test of the M1903 Designated Marksmen/Sniper Rifle used in WWII. I would think it would be a little more accurate as a Bolt Action gun. But If you were getting comparable accuracy with irons I wonder if they would be comparable results with a scope. And The scopes used in 1943-45 had to be more primitive than the scope in this video.
M1D sniper rifle is used for training in some training camps in Vermont, NC, Alaska and Saskatchewan, etc etc, but the best trading camps i visited in 2012, 2015, 2018 , showed how well organised the younger adults are when trained, and well armed citizenry is the key to protecting the constitution. Great work bringing M1D to attention, a classic never goes out of fashion. Kudos !
The government doesn't want us to be armed or trained. They're afraid of us.
Not only is the rifle beautiful, but the setting and editing is perfect, looks better than some movies. good job Micah
👉👈
@@micahmayfield Mom, Get the camera, i'm famous! But in all seriousness, you have some of the best editing skills ive ever seen (and the second best moustache, mikes just exuded big cowboy energy, sorry)
@@micahmayfield I just want to take the opertunity to tell you I absolutely love the color scheme/ filter. May I ask how you did this… or is it some sort of garand wizardry?
@@ClassifiedHorse just run of the mill color grading my friend
Exactly. Hit me in the feels 💯
“We got some Krauts out there!” It wasn’t in WW2 “we got some bleeeep out there!” Mike’s face was priceless
he said slant eyed bastards lmao
@@deadman123x racist as fuck
Considering the people in Vietnam were super skinny. 🤣
Always remember Jean Cantius Garand saying :
« Je me porte garant du bon fonctionnement de tous les modèles de fusil "Garand" et garantis leur efficacité. »
« I vouch for the proper functioning of all "Garand" rifle models and guarantee their efficiency. »
Uhhh…yes it was
Love it!! Your videos are so well put together! From the cinematography to the sounds and background music!
The battlefield homage was excellent
I loved it 😂
2x and 3x scopes normally are nice because they eliminate the multiple points of the the iron sights while having the possibility of wider field of view than the higher power scope. That potential isn't always met, but it's there
So nice to see Admin hanging out with his dad. Should have been a fathers day episode
...I thought he's his boyfriend?
@@decespugliatorenucleare3780 I don't know if there is any incestuous relationship going on, but, they are up there in logging country... the nights can be long, cold and lonely...
Can't have a GarandThumb fathers day without all three generations. Need Papa Travis in there.
Is his name really Admin, or does he just run all the tech support for the family?
@@k98killer They say he lost his name when he lost his face. During a high risk operation with Time Force 69. Reportedly, took a dragons breath round to the lower jaw. Brutal.
My uncle in law, who served in WW2 and Korea. Told me that in Korea. With Chinese mass wave attacks. They were dropping them at 1000 yards. They aimed a foot over their heads. And it was hand to hand combat before it ended. He was combat wounded. (Something that I did not know till his funeral.)
More like aim 30 feet above their heads…
I will not disagree. Lol.
Those older guys didn't really talk much about their service. There have been several instances of me not knowing about what relatives endured or accomplished, until they passed. They certainly commanded respect though.
This probably my favorite Garand Thumb video to date. Please make more videos on the Garand.
"We got some krauts over there!"
"It wasn't used in WWII..."
"Hey we got some slant eyed bastards!"
That intro was fire
Can everyone take a second to look around them and appreciate how ridiculously beautiful that area looks
The PNW is pretty magical
Came down looking for this comment haha. Was about to say i have no idea where they are or this range is, but damn what a beautiful background
Great video as usual! Man I cant get over how Beautiful it is where you guys are!
I had some arms training in the Coast Guard (no sharp shooter...close). Had the privileged of shooting an M1 and sank a 100yrd shot, with iron sights first try, it's an amazing gun ❤️
My father died in 2017. He left me his 1954 M1C. I just got my firearms ID. My fathers rifle is back home and it’s my most prized possesion.
Rest In Peace Dad. I’ll miss you
Never sell your fathers firearm. I've had my best friend sell his fathers to pay for rent. I told him I'd pay for your rent.
As a US ARMY Vet comment to your father. Rest in peace brother, we'll all see each other in Valhalla.
Aqua might be useless but that rifle never will be
@@grimtooth2336 You speak truth my man. That gun will stand the test of time for generations of his family and it’s strengths and failures. You NEVER, EVER, hand over something like that willfully.
Yeah don’t ever sell that!
If you did it would be to some cheap bastard who doesn’t give a fuck about your Dad bro.
You never know when that rifle may be called back to duty.
I love how even Admin's Big Chimp energy is channeled by Garand thumbs dad-field. How enthusiastically he responds like a kid when he's asked questions, absolutely based family dynamic.
Also trying not to smile at Admin's assessment of the targets, also dadlike.
Kinda like when your baby boy tells you a racist joke for the first time... You really don't know what to say, and you don't want to encourage the behavior, but it was a funny joke, but oh it was so bad 🙉🙈🙊
Great review of this rifle! (I love my Garand, too!) I enjoyed that you were shooting in field conditions, out in the plains, and not just on a target range.
I just love the Battlefield 5 music in the background. Also, Battlefield 5 is the only WW2 game I’ve ever seen where you can put a scope on a Garand
My grandfather was on the Army's competitive marksmanship team; M1 Garand with irons, 1,000rds/week for years. He always said he could reliably hit a man-sized target at 600 yds. Y'all lost reliability around 700. Maybe I should believe him?
Effective range doesn't mean it falls flat right after that specific distance. I'm sure your pops could drop people from further distances based on certain variables.
Those were custom built guns, using much higher quality barrels and match ammo. Look up Army AMU videos to get an idea of it.
@@nvlaser9084 so yes?
@@faust167 so yes
MaN sIzEd TaRgEt is man sized….
Hats off to Micah for using the “Kodachrome” filter for the vintage film look. Nice.
Witnessed
"They give us those nice bright colors
They give us the greens of summers
Makes you think all the world's
A sunny day, oh yeah"
Another legend of an intro. And 5:35 had me dying!
Have you considered mounting a modern scope onto the M1D just to see what's the best the Garand can do?
The front sight on a Garand will equal 18" (the size of a chest at 200 yards) You can use it as a primitive range finder.
That's true for many military rifle front sights, including AK's. It is a fairly common design feature.
Hey GT I’m leaving to serve a mission for my church for 2 years this Monday and I won’t be able to watch your content for 2 years. I just want to say thank you so much for all the laughs and dad advice and encouragement. It was amazing when I got to meet you at Apache rifleworks. Keep it up so I can see your stuff when I get back.
Good on you, bro. Didn’t go on one myself, ya know how St.George guys are, but more power to ya brother. Stuck here in Orem teaching people to not suck at fixing diesel equipment. Take care and teach love and acceptance my man.
why is this the most beautiful scenic video I have ever seen? gorgeous
I think what I love most about these newer videos is the little easter eggs the guys drop. The Tusken Raider cheer was priceless.
What a cool unique gun, the reticle does seem to throw off your shot a little bit with the thickness, but awesome nonetheless
Good for the time!
@@GarandThumb bro why didn’t they just put a red dot on it???1?11!?1? It makes COD so much easier to pwn n00bs
@@froheschwanz they? AFAIK, firearms mounted red dots, that worked worth a hoot, didn't come about untill 1975 with the first Aimpoint.
@@Manco65 *woosh*
THICCCCCCV
I read a book about a USMC soldier who trained on the M-1D before going to Vietnam. He said they replaced the optics with off-the-shelf hunting rifle scopes. The book itself is wild, a platoon of Marines are surrounded by a division of NVA and fight them off a hill. They called it the 'Alamo of Vietnam'.
I read that book. I was about to comment. The same thing. What was it called again?
title of the book, please & thanks in advance
TITLE PLEASE
Battle of Hill 488
Marine, not soldier.
My neighbor, about thirty five years ago, was a rifleman in Italy during WW2. He wasn't prone to histrionics, but he said the guy he served with, if they saw a German within 800 yards, they were dead. And they didn't have scopes.
So ww2 was fought during the 80's, where did he serve then? Call of duty?
Jokes aside maybe you mean 80 years ago because that's the correct time that the US invade italy during 1943.
@@adrikartadinata3206 I haven't seen this guy in decades, and I'm quite sure he's dead now. I'm 70 years old.
@@adrikartadinata3206 I haven't seen this guy in about 40 years.
@@mwbright oh, now I'm understand, sorry man
@@adrikartadinata3206 This was in the late 70s. Call of Duty didn't exist, and if I remember correctly, the Internet didn't either. At least it didn't for me.
I learned sniping on the M1D system in the active Army and was later issued one in a Guard unit. (The XM21s were all still "in country" and then undergoing refurb.) When I started shooting competitively, my chain of command first secured an XM21 for me and subsequently an M24, with which I had pretty good success. I was shooting both "brown gun" NRA type matches and "black gun" "combat focused" matches and learned a lot about the NM Krieger-barrel M14s and all the available sniper systems. I was the Bn Marksmanship Coordinator and managed a team from every company in all the combat disciplines the first year we competed, identifying NCOs to run Pistol, Rifle, and LMG while I settled on running Sniper. About that time, under my other hat I became the Rangemaster and primary instructor at my LEO agency and went through an FBI-taught CounterSniper course which led to an assignment as the primary Sniper on out SWAT team. I used various SWSs in that field, from the SSG and PSG1 to the SR25 and the 700P.
According to my research, the base rifles selected to become M1Cs and Ds were fired to assess their accuracy and had to meet a standard to make the cut. I don't have the standard on hand but every M1D I checked while screening a batch to assign to every sniper in my Bn (1/30 Mech Inf) would all shoot a minute or tighter with Lake City white box M72 Match. I suspect that your Greek ammo was the problem as far as your bigger groups.
While shooting in the Guard, I was able to buy a "rack grade, less wood" Garand from the DCM/CMP. Luckily, we had a mole at Anniston and my rifle was actually "selected" and has a number of nice NM parts. I paid $8 difference from the savings from the deleted wood for a Bell & Carlson fibreglas stock, and had an experienced Garand collector bed the stock and work the trigger over. I removed the swivels etc and installed QD studs where they belong, including a spare stud for a bipod. The rifle got the UltiMak scout mount and a Leatherwood 2-7 LER in low QD rings, a hooded NM rear and Ken Sight tritium front sight. I installed the adjustable gas screw and a good comp, both of which help reduce the felt recoil. I shoot mostly some M72, all of the same lot, but sadly I'm gradually eating into that stash, so I'm developing, in M72 brass, what I'm calling M72LR, one version with MatchKings and another with GameKings, with the load data from the DODAC indices in the back of Cartridges of the World. I also shoot that ammo in a bolt gun. I'm doing the same thing with .308 for my M5 build and another bolt gun; one match and one hunting version of M118LR. (When I retired, I had to go off the ammo teat). The Garand, which I'm calling an M1E, stays under a minute with the M72 and not too much worse with M1-AP black tip, but I'm saving up to have a Krieger barrel installed, which I'm hoping will enhance the accuracy a bit. FYI, the drop marks in the Leatherwood give me solid torso hits all the way to the last mark, which is 600M. Also since the scope is centered, there are no oddball aspects to holding the rifle, either left- or right-handed.
I always pitied my left-handed snipers back when we were shooting the M1Ds - one of them that went all the way to the All-Army match with me would snuggle on down on the Garand and got a bloody lip every single match. He was very glad to see the XM21 and later the M24.
I also modernized two M1 Carbines, an Underwood and an Inland, but that's another story.
(My bona fides are available for verification online).
I love contrasting what qualifies as a sniper rifle throughout the years, and how we eventually have a standard issue rifle that has better magnification and accuracy than older sniper rifles.
I love how a sniper rifle in the 40's was literally just whatever the standard infantry rifle was + a scope
@@jentegeeraerts1119 Not just any standard issue rifle though. For the Germans, a k98k that was found to be exceptionally accurate during test firing would be set aside to be tapped for a scope. I think other countries did this too
@@_kommandant_3055 pretty interesting, they do the same thing today with CPU’s the highest quality silicone becomes the I9’s, the I7’s are physically identical but with cores disables because they weren’t up to snuff.
I had no idea this same concept applies to guns but now that I think about it it probably applies to most mass production products.
@@_kommandant_3055 They did this with M14s and the L42 snipers. Tons of countries did this because they didn’t have a super good idea of how to “accurize” a rifle… and en-masse.
A sniper rifle to me is a "sniper's rifle"
Video edit maxxed. Colorist needs a raise, sound design is on point, presentation is standard perfection.
Gee cap, thank you!
@@micahmayfield that Deakins 1917 looks is epic. Looking forward to more content capt.
I love that unlike some gun channels, this guy doesn't take himself too seriously. He just enjoys what he does, and I enjoy watching it
Garands face at 2:35 is a look your father gives you when you tell a bad joke.
Something about that shot of mike and Admin at 6:00 with the mountains behind them is just beautiful
The M1D : The most stylish sniper rifle of it's time
Mosin Nagant 91/30 PU has entered the chat.
Lee Enfield No.4T: 🧐
@@huntermurphy2148 Lee may have been cool but not semi auto sniper cool
@@Bustin_cider00 Ah but this is about style, and the Lee is nothing but drip.
I think you mean the Type 97.
You would have been an amazing history teacher. Much appreciation for the content, the chuckles, and of course the cinematic intros.
always a great presentation of the Garand, with humor but professionalism. Thank you so much for this video and all the others. thank you to the whole team and accomplices. Take care, Bro 🤟
Something about the M1 vibe checking well into Vietnam kinda warms my heart a little bit. Grandpa still had some game left in him.
In a SHTF situation where the US suddenly needs all the military or former-military weapons it can get its hands on, I can see them re-issuing the M-1 garand (converted to 7.62 Nato), right along side the M-14, Scar-H, and all the other modern battle rifles.
After all, the only real difference between the M1 Garand and a modern battle rifle is "no pistol grip, the clip holds 8 rounds not 20, and pretty much no polymer", (M1 Garand uses biologically-derived cellulose composite, code-name Walnut Wood, instead).
@@44R0Ndin unfortunately most of those M1’s have been surplussed to Allies or through the CMP. Now I’d bet you’ll see plenty of old ass m-16’s come out of the wood work
@@ZSC001 Oh that's for sure, but I was more talking about the US military, due to a lack of arms (and certainly never due to a want to reduce the number of weapons owned by US citizens, that's something I disagree with), starting up a program to buy back the guns sold thru the CMP and other means.
@@44R0Ndin rechambering a military rifle into a different caliber never was a good idea
@@tavish4699 They already did rechamber the M1 Garand into 7.62 Nato, plenty of times. Some countries even adopted it that way, and kept it around for years, I think. Can't remember which countries tho.
Definitely seems more like a DMR than a true “sniper” rifle. By the way, have you watched Robski’s new video on the 1903 with Unertl Scope? Amazed at what our grandfathers had to deal with and how well they worked for the time.
True sniper rifles did not exist back then. The modern "sniper" as we think of it came about in the 60s. WW2 did not see anything more than 2-3(.5) in the way of magnification as the thought was that too much zoom would make the snipers basically blind to anything apart from what they were looking at. More zoom means less fov, which was not conducive to their mission.
@@Karle94 Actually sniper rifles did exit back then. The US used the M1903A4 as a designated sniper rifle. This of course was modified from the M1903A3 to be a sniper rifle using an M73 or M73B1 2.5× Weaver telescopic sight and different stock, and omitting the iron sights. USMC versions instead used the 8x Unertl scope. So yes they did have designated sniper rifles even back in WW2.
Oh and in Vietnam snipers used ..
The M1C/D Garand , MC52 , M1903A4 Springfield , M21 Sniper Weapon System , M40 (Remington Model 700) and Winchester Model 70 .
The Winchester Model 70 was originally produced in 1936. So yeah sniper rifles existed before the 1960. And the earliest form of sniper or marksmanship were used during the American Revolutionary War. For instance in 1777 at the Battles of Saratoga, the colonists hid in the trees and used early model rifles to shoot British officers. Most notably, Timothy Murphy shot and killed General Simon Fraser of Balnain on 7 October 1777 at a distance of about 400 yards.
So yes snipers and sniper rifles have been around for a really long time. Since about the 1700s with the first widespread use of a rifled musket which allowed sharpshooters to hit targets beyond the range of the standard smoothbore Musket at the time. Over time optics where added along with other things to help stabilize the weapon and thus increase accuracy.
So you should probably go back and study history specifically military history a little better. I found all the above information from a google search of the topic.
@@John2r1 his point being that we didn't have rifles built from the ground up for it. Simply putting a scope on a rifle doesn't make it a sniper rifle. Whether it's a Garand or a Springfield.
@@MALICEM12 Anything is a sniper rifle if you shoot well enough.
Dude, 1903 is at least a decade before my grandfather was born!
i rly like how it’s a video abt a rifle, which a lot of people would consider a really serious or maybe even inappropriate topic, but at like 15mins in they’re just standing there lightheartedly discussing what they like and don’t like about the m1d with this beautiful mountain and wooded backdrop. thank you, Garand Thumb for showing people that even in a situation like america’s is currently, gun culture isn’t full of remorseless killers, and that we’re just normal people who enjoy guns and weapons. your channel is the perfect example of what a weapons channel should be. 💪🏼
This is without a doubt the best episode I've seen, pretty good shooting considering the variables. Unless I've missed it, time to do the 03A3. Having shot a Springfield, I hope you do a run on it and hopefully get a good example to impress folks with.
Many years ago I had an Arlington Ordinance "tanker" Garand conversion in .308 with an 18" barrel. That was one of the handiest, most well-balanced, easy shooting rifles I've ever owned. Firing off-hand, I could pick off gallon milk jugs at 100 yards all day long. It had zero collector value because it was assembled from mis-matched parts but whoever put it together did it right, because it just WORKED. I deeply regret sending that gun down the road. Wish I could get it back.
flog yourself with acat of nine tails and request mercy
Hope you get it back
#1 rule is never sell a gun.
So lethal. It's reload time is one factor to the extra lethality. You could get another magazine downrange before another rifle finished its loading.
*clip
@@RX7FDfreak Both might count here.
@@felipeaugusto2600 you load the en bloc clip into the internal magazine
@@RX7FDfreak lmao
Then again, a scoped bolt action rifle is usually more precise whilst also having a better scope and better range which is why the m1d was more of the worlds first squad DMR and less of a "sniper".
love that you’re using battlefield music as the background. Epic soundtrack!!
“It’s bark is worse than its bite” was one of the greatest lies in history
Appreciate what you guys do, in a world that fears guns you guys are out here showing the truth behind them. More people need to see these types of videos to learn instead of blind fear.
Wait a second… I know your ass. I’m sending you a message right meow!
If it’s not, this is awkward.
@@qualitybusiness I am gonna go with awkward bud.
@@qualitybusiness There are 26,799 Robert Jones in the US, divided equally would be an average of 535 per state. Also, I did not get a message lol
@@robjones9774 yep, that got weird real quick.
However, I’m glad at least 2 of you support the 2A and Garand Thumb’s content.
@@qualitybusiness Hopefully there are a lot more than that haha
The battlefield music makes the whole video come together, favorite song starts at 13:36. Favorite gun, one of my favorite games and one of my favorite guys on RUclips. Thank you for this.
What’s the name of that song? I can’t find it
@@CodeBlueOutdoors under no flag - johan soderqvist (battlefield 5)
The scenery is awesome.
Thanks again for all the vids
I love this rifle, I used this rifle in 1985 when I was part of the glorious Paraguayan army, in 2020 I had the opportunity to shoot it again in the USA, it brought me tons of pleasant memories, today 37 years later, I still love this rifle and consider it one of the best rifles ever invented, personal preference.
Anybody who disagrees with that statement is a dirty communist.
It’s a shame you can’t own something you used probably daily years ago, glad you got to shoot it again
@@tjboylan20, thank you brother, and yes, I also believe that the person who served his country deserves to possess the weapon with which he served, I think that would be fair and the right thing.
“Remember their bark is worse than their bite”…LOL, literally said no one of the MG42!
That was sadly a direct quote from a real military training video.
No one but the WW2 training films...
To be fair, it's bark is still pretty bad....
The official USGI training said just that
Filming such a good Rieview in such a beautiful location -> Top notch!
The epic music in this video is fantastic!
@0:28 Give that guy an Emmy for that fall.
I used one of these rifles 36 years ago during my service in Italy.
Was it an M1D or a regular M1?
Love seeing you guys up in the muntains shooting. Definitely where I like to go shooting the most
A great video on a classic rifle. I have not seen much content on the M1D.
Respect to the bravery of those men that ran towards almost certain death
Holy shit that intro is a masterpiece
Love this weapon, love the content, you always put a smile on my face while educating :)
The background music makes this video 10x better
The background you chose to film, is pretty cool.
I was wondering where the fuck they are def not Pacific NW probably where balaclava boi is located
Maybe Idaho or somin
Bf1 and 5
@@AstraZero7 he’s got that BF soundtrack going too.
I appreciate the battlefield music in the background
Scenery is a beautiful backdrop honestly where ever it is
I really really loved this video! Please make more in this style and the BF1-ish music was spot on!
Bf5, the flute song was "Under no Flag" from the war stories
There's some BFV in there too
BFV, the song in the beginning is from the Tirailleur war story.
Props to Admin for just full sending that faceplant.
14:00 - can we all just stop and appreciate the absolute BANGER of a view these lads have while shooting a m1 garand??? the boys are living their best life that's for sure... that view is something I wish I could wake up to every day!
edit: also, you beauties using Battlefield V music in the background is just icing on the cake! I remember those sweet sweet tunes like they were yesterday!
I'd notice that soundtrack anywhere!
Always remember Jean Cantius Garand saying :
« Je me porte garant du bon fonctionnement de tous les modèles de fusil "Garand" et garantis leur efficacité. »
« I vouch for the proper functioning of all "Garand" rifle models and guarantee their efficiency. »
@@ommsterlitz1805 never heard that quote from him, thats actually awesome; he knew the Garand was a badass weapon from the start!
I knew it was Battlefield music, but I couldn't place the specific title. Thanks for catching it for those of us who were wondering!
Def was battlefield 1
These guys bring so much joy to my day
Man I do love this channel.
Each shot, from all of those ranges displayed, are absolutely going to touch a body part. Unless you live off luck. But damn. That’s great shooting.
Best 40 sec intro to a video, ever lol
In the early 1990's, I saw Italian Alpini troops with M1D's in Sicily, on anti-Mafia detail. Theirs were in 7.62 and they were guarding bridges and roads.
I thought the “ping” would make a great text notification but my Korean War vet grandfather has been having PTSD flashbacks ever since my wife asked me what I wanted from Arbys.
Thats accually funny
Respect for that fall in the opening.
Nicely done in all aspects of production GT
Honestly, your accuracy surpassed what I thought it's limits are. The misses were so close, that it would be no problem at keeping heads down out to 600 I'm sure!
Although he said 3 or 4 moa I, in 40 years and several garands never found one in good condition that was over 1.25 moa.
@Heroinsniffer4life let's do a big ol fat bean dip willie
@Heroinsniffer4life I wish I had a couple garands to load for and shoot.
I love the speed of sound versus the speed of light, and compared to the velocity of the round hitting. Seeing the impact before hearing it, is always cool.
My god man. The cinematography, the soundtrack, the guns, the subject matter, the big chimp energy; everything about this video is one big chefs kiss.
I love that you have been colabing with administrative results so much you guys work so well together!
Outside of 400 yards with this platform was all about the breathing. Breath control was key until modern optics came into play. That's why a sniper 50 years ago were so obsessed with breathing
Spot on. Using the sling adds a lot of stability, too. Shout out to my Appleseed Project instructors Aaron and Brent!
Dine washer excercises ftw!
Breathing properly on any weapon is a must. You need to feel the heart beat...a loose scope or even the choice of rest can way into it. I would think that the scope had a horrible aiming point too, chasing the circle...lol.
It's still a beautiful looking rifle in my opinion.
Take care,
Be safe.
..breathing...oh...and being right handed....
Pray tell how do optics obviate the need for breath control in long range precision shooting?
That CGI Admin Results looks really lifelike, right up there with the hologram Harry Caray from last week's baseball game. Props to your special effects and editing crews.
Great video. I own an M1D. Thank you. Loved it.
The view and the battle field under no flag song at 14:30 gives the best vibes 🤌
GT and AR with Charlie make for an entertaining video. My old man loved the M1 and and he built one back in the 80's with a D barrel. We never found a decent m24 scope and mount at an affordable price to make it a true M1D but it shoots great with irons. I still have it to this day and hope to pass it on to a youngster that appreciates it when my time is up.
I'm only 63 !
They make repro mounts and repro M84 scopes for like 300 bucks you can buy right now. I'm about to build a M1D myself
Even though Charlie didn't understand his orders, he's still haunted by the masked figures death
Can Charlie truely be alleged to “understand” “anything”?
@@thejason755 we'll never know
I'd love to throw a shout out to editing of this video, specifically the background MUSIC! It gave me peace of mind while watching this and seem to just fit what y'all were doing. Great video!
I love everything about this video. EVERYTHING!!!! I cannot exclamation this enough!!