SR22 and TB10 flights to Scotland - The Flying Reporter
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2021
- You cannot beat flying in Scotland. The Flying Reporter joins friends on a flight to Leeds East, Perth and Inverness in an SR22 and TB10.
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Great video, interesting for many reasons, but I must comment, as others have, with some facts for the TB 10 operator.
1. The oil pressure warning light on most aircraft will trigger at or below minimum pressure at idle (25 psi for Lyc O - 360A1AD). The low limit for cruise on this engine is 55 psi, so, the statement that no red light means plenty of oil pressure is incorrect.
2. The oil pressure gauge is essential for correct monitoring of any engine, but PARTICULARLY an older Lycoming, where fluctuations in cruise oil pressure can be the first sign of a main bearing issue, which can lead to catastrophic failure in a relatively short time, even if the pressure appears to return to normal.
3. Moving the prop control does cause oil "real" pressure changes as oil is fed to, or dumped from the crank bore by the governor, through part of the front main bearing. So the gauge coming back up when moving the prop control does not in itself mean the gauge is at fault.
4. Disregarding the legality of operating an aircraft with out a reliable, consistent oil pressure gauge, capable of showing fluctuations and trends, it is not safe, the gauge is "crying wolf" and one day the problem will be real.
I'm sure you will pass my comments to the operator.
I used to fly out of Leeds East when it was RAF Church Fenton. I haven't been back since the change. Good to see it!
Another great, well produced, and informative video Jon. I think the SR22 is my dream aeroplane, but very much looking forward to seeing your new Arrow 👍
Another great video Jon, thank you. I looked your channel up because I'm studying for PPL Comms exam and it's great to hear all your calls. I'm now drooling over the Cirrus of course 😍
Loved it
Hi Jon! I hope you werent back sit driving🤣🤣🤣I prefer to call it positive CRM! I wont mention the oil pressure gauge as thats been pointed out already, but did concern me. Looked a lovely weekend though, and yes that Cirrus looks a nice bit of kit!
We do indeed get them out and put them away as required. Itching for a flight in both of them at some point, even with the “quirky” oil pressure sensor 😉
Looked a lovely trip
Good video it is!
Hi Jon, enjoyed this content as usual. Something which I spotted, and I dont try to pick holes in content, which is of safety benefit for you and the PIC on the SR22 was seatbelts. You both wore them them incorrectly. The Cirrus seatbelt in the front seats should be "low and tight" around the waste, with the upper portion which contains the air bags coming from the clasp up over your shoulders. This allows for proper functioning of the air bags and also correct distribution of load in an accident. Wearing them with the clasp towards the middle of the body is considered as very risky. I hope that does a little bit to improve flight safety!
Cirrus is perfect aircraft for IFR! one s of my favorites aircrafts ! You are lucky man!
I buddy hope you are well. Brilliant flight and brilliant scenery. Philip thinks you need the camera's a bit closer to the cockpit screens or the mfd so the back passenger can see what's going off properly.take care buddy phil.
Great video Jon. Agree with the comment about the dodgy oil pressure gauge being something that should be addressed, I’ve been getting intermittent ‘wandering’ of the oil pressure reading so am swapping the sender tomorrow, for £70 or so its not a major cost either.
Lovely planes but I think I’ll stick to microlight flying for now. I pay £1,000 hangarage, £900 insurance and about £500 for the annual inspection and permit. At 13 litres an hour Mogas (unleaded petrol) or Avgas if I have to, its much cheaper to run than the bigger boys. And 100kts cruise speed its not that much slower. Oh and cheaper landing fees usually as well
Nice one. Been a while since I flew to Turweston but what on earth is that London double-decker bus doing there!!! Also, Oh man, I envy you. You have done something I always wanted/want to do. FULL ownership of an aircraft. Look forward to seeing your adventures.
The bus was there for the grand prix which was taking place that day - and it was ferrying passengers between parking at Turweston over to Silverstone.
Perth Radio is bit of weird one when it comes to R/T. We don't announce taxi and just announce when we cross the thereshold. But great video as always Jon!
That's interesting Will. At Popham we like to let everyone know what everyone's up to, situational and traffic awareness, and good to have a radio check too. Is it that people at Perth don't like talking to each other?
Enjoyable. :-)
Interesting video for many reasons.
My main thought is that this single video shows the two different aspects of private flying. For the initial legs you were in an aircraft (SR22) that was clearly beautifully maintained and had all the information and supporting technology needed to ensure a safe flight.
When you switched to the TB10 it was clear there were several key pieces of instrumentation and information unavailable and the view of the owner was “that doesn’t matter”. The fact that he was open about the costs involved really does make me wonder why his aircraft is, arguably, so poorly maintained. To not have an oil pressure gauge and rely on “a warning light” is (to me) rather worrisome, and if this is indicative of the level of “concern” the owner has then what else is iffy…
Do you feel private aviation is too accepting of these kinds of things and sticking an INOP sticker over a gauge is good enough?
Good try with Yoda 🤣
If you could own either an SR22 or a TB10 what would you rather own Jon?
There seem to be a lot of U.K.-based SR22s with N registrations. I assume there's a reason? An SR22 is still my win-the-lottery plane, though for meaningful IFR in western Canada I need a turbo and FIKI.
The bill for last year's annual on my Musketeer had more digits than usual. The Lycoming factory rebuilt engine is wonderful, but still, ouch!
The US instrument rating is much easier to get than the full UK one so a lot of Brits get an FAA license instead.
Many serious GA pilots have FAA papers so hence they own aircraft on N reg. Plus owner maintenance is easier and cheaper.
Musketeer, brings back memories. Got my ppl in a Musketeer during the winter of 96 in Fairbanks without a heater!
@@MarkWebster1 As of December last year you have to switch to UK or EASA if you and plane are based in the UK even if your aircraft is N reg
Were you departing Perth EGPT on the 17th July in this video? I think I heard myself in G-BODD on the radio in the background :)
Yes Mark. That was the date.
How many hours was it on each leg Jon ?
Hi Jon, great video thanks. We were going to land at Inverness a few weeks ago but found the landing fees very high as we were told that handling was a must. How did you guys find the fees?
I'll be honest, we just split everything so cannot remember exactly. I didn't think they were too bad though if I recollect correctly.
If you use Highland Aviation rather than one of the dedicated handling agents it's not too bad, I think around £20/tonne landing fee (tedious for me as my a/c is just over 1 tonne) and £20 handling or similar...
Do you know what happens if you dont get an anual each year
On your comment on interfering - as a CRI I find it very difficult to "switch the instructor off" if I'm flying with a friend or one of my share partners, and do have to keep telling myself to shut up!
🤣 This pretty funny. Just make sure you keep mentioning the big things!
Great video as always, Jon. One honest question, is that really how SR22 harnesses are designed to be worn?
I think so...
@@TheFlyingReporter How odd, they don't appear safe at all like that but I guess it might be something to do with the airbags.
Flying with a known u/s oil pressure gauge. Doesn't ferry football stars around in his spare time by any chance?
Given the weather you had on that trip I have to wonder why you chose to route east of Aberdeen from Perth rather than flying a direct track. I'd have thought the scenery over, or through, the mountains would have had much greater visual appeal.
Can't recall...a few weeks back now. But there was 30 knot winds, so suspect that had something to do with it.
@@TheFlyingReporter Yep, that would do it.
Leeds East or Leeds-Bradford? 😂😂😂😂😂. On a more serious note, the attitude of the TB10 driver to the dodgy oil pressure gauge was somewhat divergent with your high safety standards Jon.
as a fellow tb10 owner i can assure you they all do that :-)
The “factory” instruments on the TB series are notoriously iffy. Some sort of modern EDM is a must, have a look at my videos to see the installation in ours which we love.
We have two oil pressure gauges in our group TB10 - the factory standard one reads all over the place... As others have said, the gauges in that plane are notoriously unreliable. Still, it is a lovely plane.
There is absolutely no way that TB10 should be operating with a faulty/not working oil pressure gauge! The fact the operator states it has been like that for years leads me to believe it has been certified off annuals with the this fault. This is dangerously wrong and another unfortunate example that just because a company holds an approval doesn't mean its standards meet even the minimum requirements!
I agree - Oil pressure and temp are the gauges I check very frequently! Just out of interest, is there some sort of Minimum Equipment List for a small Part 21 aircraft? We always fix things on our PA28, despite the totally ludicrous cost of certified parts.
But if you don't want to spend the money and are flying only Day VFR how much can you just label "InOp" and still be legal in a Part 21?
My favourite rip off item was a pair of 3 point seat belts for £1k when exactly the same thing for a 60s car would be £150 max. I think a DME antenna for a non-Part 21 is about £40 whereas the Certified version, which is exactly the same thing, is about 8 times as much. People don't maintain instruments as they break because they get tired of being totally ripped off by the parts industry.
£3000 for an Annual and the oil pressure gauge doesn't work "It always does that..." Jeepers. Please don't fly over my part of the world. A silly, cavalier attitude to flying. You can feel the tension of the presenter. "Fly safely my friends" we hear at the end. Hmmm - sort that aircraft out immediately - TB10? What does the T stand for? Terrible maintenance? Great episode though as a result - you do find them don't you? Your folded arms during that take-off! Priceless! Thumbs up to the video of course.
Think you undersold your "back seat flying" there, just a tad. You're flying with colleagues and pilots who possibly have just as much, if not more experience as yourself. I would not have stayed as silent as your buddies whilst you were riding & nagging their flying competences on camera.
Sorry to say I stopped watching this video twice because of the silly man in the back with the "Yoda" voice machine. Really annoying. Which is a shame because this should have been a good video to watch. I came back once, skipped ahead and enjoyed the arrival at Chuch Fenton/Leeds East but then he did the Yoda thing again and I thought nope. Sorry John.
laughing not allowed