I MADE a Custom PACKOUT DOLLY & My New Drawer Setup
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- I didn't like the Milwaukee packout dolly or hand truck so I made my own setup. I show you what I came up with in this video. I also show how I'm setting up my new packout drawer units.
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If Milwaukee makes a PACKOUT rollout case with one big sliding drawer it is going to sell like crazy. Nothing worse than stacking all your PACKOUT boxes and then needing to get something from the bottom of the stack
Drives me nuts. Then you put it all back together, realize you need something that you thought was in the top box but then you remember you threw it in the bottom box the day before when you were in a hurry to roll up and get the hell out of there, so now you got to take them all down again and then you just look like some kind of OCD idiot to everybody else lol
your so right,u have to dig to get to bottom box,packout is not as nice as milwaukee thinks it is...i thought about drawer boxes way before milwaukee did.
Heard from one of my tool suppliers and milwaukee is coming out with drawers for these
They should have drawer with one big and one smal/flat
@@harrisonfoster1889 i hope you’re right!
Fun to watch on Sunday morning. So much better than throwing things in drywall buckets.
My dad started doing the bucket thing. I hate it. We do tile and stone, we literally work out of buckets, and suddenly they are all getting filled with stuff, leading us to have to dump buckets of crap out to work. Horrible.
I've been building packout stuff for a while. It's so much better. I like having a place for everything and everything in its place if possible. My stuff is still building and shifting, but I can know exactly where everything is, vastly increasing my workflow. Even increasing the amount of tools @ my disposal to improve my workflow and quality even further.
You should make yourself a little ramp that locks onto your bumper or some kind of magnet that temporarily holds the ramp so you can load and unload any rolling carts from your van. I did something like it and it worked a lot better than I thought it would, as the boxes were kind of heavy to pick up, and at the end of the day or at the end of a job anything easier is always better.
From one wood butcher to another a little joke for you, I once saw a carpenter throw a long, pointed tool into another long pointed tool…
awl in awl, it was a cool experience.
They make hand trucks that have brackets just foe going over steps, curbs Ect. I used to deliver beer in the 90's .
Look on the beer trucks. Miller, Coors. It will give you an idea. I'm sure you can figure something out. A (D) ring handle on a hand truck is the ticket, 1000 times better than a horizontal handle. If you could find an EX beer hand truck with an extension you would encrease productivity, and not screw your back up.
You have a good channel. Not a bunch of B/S just to the point. If you work like that you will go far. New subscriber.
Another great video.I modified a hand truck to get my Dewalt boxes around.I use an aluminum folding ramp to get mine into van .It sits right on bumper then I just fold it in half and I have it store on back door of my van works great.A real back saver and also very easy to get in and out of van without having to step up into (for those of us getting older).
Hilti has a folding Dolly that's perfect for the packout
I have the Rigid,,, now these drawers ..oh no,, now I am tempted to spend,, Ahhh
1.Tip for you, use the 4 wheels.
2.Tilt one side to the van floor , then slide it in laying down ..
3. Go inside the van, then tilt the hand truck back up.
PS , you need better wheels on your dolly.
Great set up..
U made that look hard spencer 😆😆🙌🙌
This is one cool thing about Milwaukee, imo. Can take the packout pieces a d custom mod them how ya want, if want to. So, as they do offer there own solutions.....they did give us options to let our imaginations run wild; and that’s cool.
Great idea for dolly, and definitely gonna make one too.....as like low profile for edges👍🏻
Cheers✌🏻
Thanks for this video!!! I was strapping the packout stack in my trucks backseat. So I have to unpack it everytime I want something in a lower box. I bought a 3 drawer and a 2 drawer with a base unit. I am going to try using 1/2" plywood for all layers of the dolly just to keep it lighter and lower. I bought 3" wheels (200# each) so I will never overload those. I only use a hand truck to get it to my truck. The dolly will be great in the garage. I can remove the wheels easily when stacking them in the truck. This is such a great improvement! Thanks again for a great idea!
Make a quick light weight plywood box with a slot on top for your hand and a ramped side. You place it against the back of the van, then roll the hand truck up the ramp for a smooth transition.
Awesome job. Best finish carpentry on YT .
I just bought into the packout system today and decided to buy 2 drawer units and one larger box, forgoing the wheeled box. My thought was to customize a hand truck so I bought the exact base you have. Looks like my gut was correct because this video demonstrates everything I was thinking of doing! Thanks!
Great work Spencer !! Ideas throughout the video, tips and hints for many to adapt a system for their own setups. Many Thanks !!
You need a foldable wheelchair ramp , as I've gotten older I new eventually I would ruin my back , Titan ramps are good.
Two rounded wedges above the wheels. Attached perhaps with a slot cut for a hose clamp to pass through and around the hand truck post. Just a quick idea.
This is the best finish carpentry channel on RUclips, thanks for making this content.
Thanks for watching!
good video. Shows you even the best guys have struggles and there are always speed bumps. Always adapting and making things better is what separates the best from the guys who just say whatever and deal with it later (which becomes almost every day) Spend the time and get the setup that works for you.
love your videos and your work man!
Super Great Video! Modify Everything! Tool Time, Tool Time!!!
This and the last video I watched of yours confirmed what I have already been thinking about the Packout Drawer stacks. I have all lid stacks and it sucks because to get at anything, you have to remove every box to get at anything that isn't on the top. I will be changing over to the drawers as cashflow allows. This would also allow me to keep the drawer stacks in the shop, and then move them into my trailer when I need to get to a jobsite. Love it. Keep up the good videos. I really enjoy your content!
Enjoyed that - my ideal system seems to be a hybrid of a few different manufacturers bits. Your video is reinforcing my opinions of what I need to do. And yes it’s either ramp on the van or skids on the trolley 😁
Nice. I just got into the packout system yesterday. I've watched too many old tradesmen make it look easy and fun to not do it myself. I have a gangbox on my truck that is coming down so I can have my bed space back
This is great!
I was able to make my Dewalt dolly box swivel around like yours by replacing the wheels with much taller ones, so it increased the box height enough to fit swivel casters under the front. It works excellent for me, but the wheels ad 3” width on each side. And it would be great if they just made a dolly with no box attached, like Festool, or the tstak trolly.
Great idea. You could add an aluminium triangle or something similar above the wheels on the frame of the hand truck to help keep the wheels off the bumper.
I figured at some point you would just build your own cases but I'm sure the "plastic" ones are lighter. Great idea getting the one with the lid on top. I know that was an essential goal.
Hard to find a hand truck with runners that also folds open like yours. Would be nice to have both features in one.
Well done!
I like that the golf clubs even has a spot. Gotta keep the priorities straight. Hahaha
I thought I was the only one who noticed. I actually was just thinking about putting my clubs in my transit Van as well. Starting a new job next to the golf course next week
I saw that too! I like the fact Spencer has them with him at all times.
love my Milwaukee packouts. Thing that got me on the video was you honesty.... trial and error ... nice.
I don't have my van set up for stacks like you do (lot's of E & X track). I filled the spaces between the ribs with some machined scrap wood flooring (treasures I finally had a good use for), then laid a stall mat (4x8x 3/4" rubber mat) down. Works well, wheels don't hang up on it. Used, so not as strong smelling. If you watch out (or order them), you can get them in other sizes and thicknesses. Most are not quite 3/4", and few are in stock as 8' (usually 4x6ish). Check if you buy them and get them from the same stack (2 sides, some have texture on one side, and some are supposed to not absorb moisture). Heavy, grab a pair of Vise Grips to move them. No easy way to cut them, just a sharp utility knife. 1/4" minimum thickness and carts roll over them fine (on the shop floor).
Very good setup and ideas you have going. Maybe try getting some aluminum bar stock and attach to the hand truck in a triangle fashion. Add some plastic slides to the contact surface. This may allow everything to skid past the bumper and such.
I’ve been brainstorming over this same subject for the past 4 months. I really liked the fact that Milwaukee came out with the drawer idea. My hang up was the big box (the rolling one). I do use that box for bulky items. Just received the notice this past week that an “xl box” had been brought out. Now we’re talking.
My dolly that I use for numerous things, drawers for the small, frequently grabbed items (bits,blades, etc), big box for the bulky stuff. I think I can pack it all up and only have to shuffle two boxes. Game changer for sure. My only change is probably going to be to leave the wheels off the dolly part. Or if adding the wheels, leave the slot out entirely. The space between the wheels should be enough for the dolly. I do see the reason you did it your way
There is a hand truck with three wheels set in line on both sides. Delivery guys use them for going up stairs (might help getting over the bumper or your van) also a bonus if you have to negotiate stairs on the job site. Might be able to hire one from a tool hire company to try it out first. Great well presented videos. Keep up the good work. All the best. Pete (Scotland UK) 👍
Your such a great guy and so generous with your content. thats a great custom dolly with an elegant solution.Will be interesting to see how this evolves..I run the festool box's in two of my own self made sys port knock offs on dollys..( allows access to all boxes when stacked).. it works but I can see its not as flexible as your new set up...great channel ..
With all the woodworking talent you have, apply it to metal using a grinder and build yourself a extendable ramp for the back of that rig
Looks like a good system. Thanks for sharing it. I learn a lot from your channel Spencer. Thank you
Also, thanks for showing the process, even if you have to show it all with one hand (while recording).
Great job with finding solutions for problems with tool storage. I am looking forward to getting my hands on the packout drawers. I have one of each pre-ordered. And I am hoping Milwaukee will make a couple more drawer options...
I like your set up and this gives me some ideas for sure! Thanks for posting!
That is fantastic handheld camera work for a guy busy doing the explanation etc. . . Very good info flow too. Great job!
Thank you for showing us the way you handle your tools
I made my own dolly after watching your video. I appreciate you sharing this idea.
You’re welcome!
Awesome dude!
You put some great thought into this setup, ingenious!!
You just solved the very problem that I was struggling with when it comes to using Milwaukee’s hand truck. I was contemplating a very,very similar solution. Thank you for sharing (great content!). 🥃🥃
Glad I could help
Genius idea !! Thanks for sharing man, this will also solve another problem I had with putting pack outs under a truck bed cover , the Milwaukee rolling tool box handle is too tall . This will work perfectly and I’ll get a beefy hand truck
I’ve been looking forward to this video 👍🏼 looking forward to the update!
Thanks, I made the base this weekend. Works great!
Great simple idea thanks for sharing this. I’ve been trying to find easy modular and quickly movable solutions for the bulk of my tools to make my van easily convertible between work and camping. This will work so good, plus the bonus of having more straightforward organization and access. Making some today! Thanks again
Thanks for the great design! Even the Milwaukee ruling box doesn't handle stairs well when the boxes are heavy. A hand truck make more sense and your design saves space.
Pretty cool! I might copy and tweak your idea, i have 2 packout mounting plates already.
Concerns i have are with stability. I think the packout is wider to get the wheels to the corners for stability. The other thing i would do for sure, is 3-4" non marring (grey rubber) rolling casters, 2 of them being locking casters (front 2).
Adding a pair of UHMW triangles to the back of the upright support tube of your hand truck. Look at appliance hand trucks, they have a “tread” that really helps. I add some roller blade wheels to one, it didn’t work to well.
Boy am I glad I found this video. I have that exact hand truck, which has exceeded my expectation and works incredibly well for someone with a smaller van (Mercedes Metris). I've been eyeballing those Packout Drawers and felt unsure about buying them since I have a lot of non-Milwaukee tool organizers and a hand truck already, but this video really gave me some great ideas. I actually feel better about pulling the trigger on that purchase. Thank you, Spencer.
Glad I could help. I did end up purchasing a different hand truck that has a much better built in "stair climber" design. I'll have an update video of my new van setup coming. I'm really happy with my new setup.
Those two drawer pack out modules are the best Milwaukee has in their system. They didn’t have those when I was looking around and I would have bought them.
That design is what I was looking for! Thanks for the idea!
Thanks for the content, have thought of making a dolly/hand truck similar to the festool? I’m making one right now with extruded aluminum frame and mounting the packout base to attach the drawer boxes . No need for a separate hand truck. Love the drawers, so tired of stacking and unstacking boxes.
Maybe consider a aluminum ramp/ramps which would either hook or hinge just inside the rear doors. That way you would not have to pull heavy pack out boxes over the bumper. Keep the hand truck and your awesome custom dolly system as is. No extra weight added to the hand truck as well. Less chance of pulling your back out too.
I made my own packout dolly using 1/2" HDPE, 4" casters and Kaizen K'NEX two years ago before the Milwaukee dolly became available, eventually I'll make my own hand truck for my packouts.
I also did a custom dolly for my packout drawer stack but I went the opposite direction - maximizing the footprint for stability and using the overhang to store stepladders, levels, folding tables, etc. As always, it's all about what works for the individual
Sounds great, maybe showing a video or picture?
I really like the drawers too. I stack a 2 and 3 drawer on the Milwaukee dolly with a medium box and Milwaukee worktop. It has eliminated the need for my Rubbermaid cart. - UncleRuss the electrician -
I can see the next packout being that Rolling Tool Box transforming into a 2 or 3 drawer rolling tool box.
Watch!
It only makes the best of sense!
I hope so! I've been dragging my feet buying into Packout because I wanted the drawers on the bottom and their hand truck seems overpriced and underbuilt. If they offered the drawers in a wheeled version it would be perfect for me. I do also like his custom dolly and hand truck solution which I may shamelessly rip off for my own use.
@@BigBenC1991 A lot of people would love this option.
But Noooooo!
They came out with a "Doulbe Wide" Rolling Tool Box, or Tool Chest as they have named it. 😫
Get one of those stairway dollies with the tracks halfway up to rest on the van pulling it in. They’re like 60$
i looked online, can't locate anything under $500.00 haha... do you have a brand for that dolly?
140$ Canadian. They always go on sale and I got the same for 79.99. but that 140 is prob close to 100$ American. Harbour freight would have something similar. I always thought these dollies would work well
Fantastic idea. Watched your video again to get the dimensions of your base. Great content.
Perfect idea! Thanks for sharing.
Or add flared rails on the back on the hand truck so as you’re pulling up, it’s also pushing the hand truck and wheels away from the bumper. Glue some hard plastic around the flared rails to save from scratching the hell out of your bumper. Simple! Triangle shaped rails is even better than flared now that I think about it.
DAMN IT. Wished I'd seen your video a day earlier. Just bought the Milwaukee dolly yesterday. I had been debating over the dolly, the had truck or the tote with wheels for a base for my system. This set up is awesome because it give the dolly plus the portability over uneven terrain. Very nice indeed.
You need skids on the back of the hand truck
Look at a Magliner
Yep exactly. 2 skid plates. You could even use nylon for skid bars. The material they use for router fences etc. HDPE easier on the bumper of the van
Add a couple of wedges out of wood or aluminum about a foot-and-a-half long at the bottom above the tires
Fair play mate, im definitely doing this. cheers
Thanks for sharing!
Yes...these are solid points and I've experienced the same issues. I actually own that same hand truck and have been using without the custom rolling dolly, obviously. I'll be copying your idea for the dolly. Thanks.
Loved the golf clubs in your van! You’re prepared for anything!
Look into an appliance moving hand truck that has a track type set up for climbing stairs. Size may be an issue, though!
Try an appliance dolly. They have tracks on the vack of the dolly frame for that very reason
Exactly works great on anything you'd drag a normal dolly on and they are made for the weight
That is actually pretty impressive that you are able to get as many tools in your pack outs as you do. I have been using milk crates and buckets and I feel like they still don't fit
You need an Appliance Dolley . It has a set of tracks on the frame to help it up the stairs.
@13:40. The wheels and the bumper....as a carpenter, you already know the answer. Make a jig, of course! 😁 A mini-me ramp that goes on the bumper? An aluminum extrusion (like T tracks) to make a half an A Frame to go on the back of the dolly?
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Great video. I'm looking at the Packout as well as the Craftsman TradeStack system. Packout is great but also quite a bit more expensive vs the Craftsman. No question the Packout is top shelf. I'm just a regular homeowner who likes tools and wants something like this. What I don't like about any of current dolly systems or the base units with the built-in dollies is the height with the handle fully extended. I'm 6'4" tall and want a dolly with more height so when I am moving it around I don't have to bend over. The dolly you use highlights how much more leverage you get with additional height.
Yellow tools in the red 📦! You should put red tools in the red 📦 😂
awesome build! I had a good hand truck idea but yours is much better so Thank you! As for the handtruck wheel problem; check out Magliner's accessories for Handtruck stair glides, they mount to the wheel axle and bolt to the back of the frame, may need slight modification to mount up to yours but I have no doubt you could get that one on.
Mandatory spot for the clubs! Love it
Always!
I bought an aluminum ramp like the one's they sell for getting a snow blower into a pick up truck . Lightweight & money well spent at my age.
We use them for dirt bikes, I know,,, at my age, and they work great for tool ramps. great for home access, I work in a lot of occupied houses.
Going to make mine today!!!!Thanks!!!
Great job, and thinking. I don't need that but I want it lol. You're handy work is clean my friend. 👌🏾
very good pont
Brilliant idea🙌🏽🙌🏽
Great video !! Awesome initiative in improving the design!!!
I like because I figured your wife was like on the phone or something saying "he's out in his truck again with the doors closed"😳👍🏿 I know the feeling bro keep up the good work 💪🏿
You lucky dog! I’ve been checking Home Depot’s website daily for a week now and nothing has hit yet
Next time show us your custom golf club rack LOL.. Have you ever considered a flip down ramp on the back of your van ?
Haha. Will do.
I've thought about it but its just one more thing to mess with for me.
I like the bottom rolling box better than any hand truck for stairs. The weight is closer into the axle and not far out in front with hand trucks. Even tried it with my stair climbing hand truck and the rolling box is easier.
Agreed, I like how my rolling lower box pulls up into the van. I'd like to figure out a way to keep using it.
Man you work so hard. God bless you and you effort.
Nicely done Spencer. I like it
Really good content. Thanks
great again Spencer!!!!
Yeah, Spenc. you need to make a small ramp to get you out of trouble to get your equipment up into the truck.
Good job.
Great video and ideas. I didn't go with Packout but If I ever do switch, I'm doing this. Only needing one dolly for multiple stacks is great. You should add a link to one of your newer videos where you show the larger wheels with locks you changed to.
Great set-up and video. Thanks for sharing!
I seen this video awhile back and just watched again. Great ideas and enjoy your delivery.
Could try an appliance dolley, they are larger than the one you are using but have the back rail that aligned with the wheels that allows you to manage stairs better.
This makes sense. Great video.
Love your set up man ! Keep it up