YouTube & Photographers
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- First, I want to plug @camerasutra247
He's a good guy with a lot of experience in the world of cameras and photography. He has recently started focusing more on RUclips and I'd like to help his channel grow, if I can.
Just some thoughts and observations on photography as a concept, photography in the modern world, RUclipsrs, camera companies, and I guess a bit about human nature, society, etc.
If you don't have the time or desire to watch or listen to the whole video, here are some timestamps that might be useful;
0:00 Intro
1:20 Classic Photography & Film
10:17 Variety is Beautiful
11:28 GAS & RUclipsrs
13:40 Quality Matters
17:52 Never Satisfied & Insecurity
23:00 Subscriptions vs Theft
37:33 Hardware vs Software (Limitations)
39:40 Is it still good, today?
41:55 RUclips Photographers
48:11 Trying to Interview Photographers & RUclipsrs
51:17 Most RUclipsr's outside of RUclips
54:09 Closing Thoughts
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The canon 5dmk2 was THE go to fashion camera in the early-mid 2000’s. It, as of 2020 was the most print published camera of all time, almost double the nearest competitor (nikon f2) it’s only beaten online by the iPhone purely because of the sheer volume of them. It just suddenly doesn’t become unusable because the mk4 is out it the r5/6 is out. It still produces vogue quality images now. It baffles me how people don’t understand this.
Exactly, it leaves me at a loss for words. I didn't know the 5D2 was the most print published camera of all time. That is amazing and not at all surprising.
That camera wasn't released until 2008. And I remember when it launched. It was trendy AF.
Not only is it a fanatstic amera , it is supported by the enourmous EF mount range lenses. The other day I picked up a 24-105mm f4 IS L lens for 300$ the month before a 70-200mm f4 L, at a similar price.You can set yourself up with a professioanl body, and lenses for the cost of a modern mirrorless camera body only, wich is exactly what I am in the process of doing.
But by all means, ifa mirrorless camera is what make you tick,and you can afford it, go for it!
your clear thinking and analysis doesn't surprise me. i've seen your reviews of the books you read over the course of a year. you're definitely more than muscles, bro. i learn something each time i watch one of your vids. thank you.
Thank you, PJ, I appreciate it.
My parents bought a Coronado deep freeze in 1974. It's still running. Few products today have that durability, including cameras.
It will outlast us all...
You and Chuck Jines are the only 2 photography channels I watch anymore. Mainly because you have zero agenda and are not just a one dimensional affiliate marketer. I appreciate that. Great conversation.
I appreciate you taking the time to view/listen. I don't think I'm familiar with Chuck Jines. I'm definitely going to check him out now, though.
Apart from Skyler, I subscribed to Martin Castein. Those are the only two YT subscriptions related to Photography.
I'm subscribed to Martin, as well.
Chuck is always good to watch I enjoy his content likewise Dan milnor although not checked him for a long while so many options out there these days some drop off the radar. One I’m enjoying is paulie b walkie talkie series plenty of interesting characters
Never change, dude! I love these opinion pieces on the state of photography and social media.
I will never buy a camera with features locked behind a paywall or subscription. I’ll be scooping up backups of “subscriptionless” cameras if we ever go to that point.
It has a funny way of making my current cameras feel even more valuable while simultaneously making new cameras even less appealing.
Keep the great work, great video. Love the analysis and appreciation of photography as an art expression.
I really enjoyed it. It a honor and a privilege to watch this podcast. I'm agree, I never liked angry photographer neither I was fan of Jason Lanier but at least from Jason you were learning something. I got into photography because of Jason and I never regret it. I was always drawn to what you can do with a camera and is fascinating and the power of expresing yourself is like never before. Also I went down the rabit hole of these affordable DSLR/Digicams with a retro/film vibe look that is hard to emulate. I believe these all cameras will go up in price/sentimental value like digicams or some film cameras did. You barely find a good one nowadays or they're quite expensive. Thank you and please do this more often.
“You will own nothing and be happy” - WEF
It’s a scary road we are headed down, seems like companies are running out of ideas/products and are building in shortened product life cycles or adding a subscription to everything.
Planned obsolescence is becoming absurd.
Always nice to wake up to your videos Skyler
I get the timing right, sometimes... lol
@@SkylerKing Dude, I was so surprised by the like you gave me on instagram a week ago.
That totally made my day, your timing is great honestly.
You've got really great photos. Seriously. Photos of cool cars, cameras, people, places. I just didn't go on a "like" rampage because I didn't want to look like a crazy person...
Mate, these rambles are just brilliant. I hate that people feel they have to edit videos down to sound bites. Never edit. I love this stuff. Would love to hear you go on about music for a while. That said, this is only the second video of yours I've watched.
Love your videos. It is really good to reflect on hardware and the direction the industry is heading into. I still use A7, the original one. I have other cameras as well. I just did an event and people always asked me if I have the latest and the greatest. I don't. I know my cameras in and out. In the end, composition beats all of your gear. Here is what I found about photographers. Very much introverts, many struggle with confidence and hide behind lenses. I always enjoy meeting others and sharing. Love to complement those that have a talent. Learned quickly that is not a norm. I was recently asked to be a back up for a corporate event, after the organizer saw my photos at a party. I said sure. It was a book introduction. The original photographer stayed on and I just came to support the publisher. I brought no camera with me of any kind. Before the event I tried to chat with the photographer, after she figured out who I was, I got the coldest shoulder. It actually made me laugh. The behavior was so childlike. Not surprised about some of the youtubers either. Please have a life apart from what you are doing. Great video. Would love to hear your opinion on post editing and AI. How much is too much?
Great conversation. I'm a long time Nikon-phile and currently am loving picking up old F-mount lenses at pennies on the dollar. The first Nikon body I purchased was in 1972 and I was shooting 90% fuji velvia film. Galen Rowell was my favorite photographer back then and he would get incredible photos using an FM body and a 24 f/2.8 lens. I would love to get anything near as good as what he was getting back then. At times I feel like I would love eye detect focus, then I come back down to earth and realize that great photos are taken by great photographers with great visions. That's when I go out and work harder to get the most out of the gear I have!
I think of Ken Wheeler videos the same way I think of Ken Rockwell reviews. They both have a lot of knowledge but I take them with a grain of salt! Both Ken's think very highly of themselves.
Mom bought a fridge in 1956 and it was still going strong when she passed away 14 years ago!
I really love comments like this. You have clearly been around the world of photography and the related gear for a long time, and it shows in your very sober and clear headed comments on the subject. By coincidence, I was just looking at vintage f-mount glass, today.
I’m a fan of this channel - it’s calm, it’s sensible, it’s rational, & it’s cognisant of human nature (ie. It’s ‘Based’.) You can have a ‘based’ approach to a photography podcasting - just like you can have a ‘based’ approach to political reporting. Ps. We’ve all heard of ‘Just Stop Oil’. That’s complete madness - what would make MUCH more sense would be: ‘Just Stop Advertising!’ It’s advertising that’s making us waste resources by constantly churning all our perfectly good stuff for brand new.
Its so refreshing to hear someone talking in a truthful manner, thanks for the video!😊👍
Thank you for taking the time to watch, I appreciate it.
@@SkylerKing you're very welcome!
Hi Skyler, I took a bit of time to let your thoughts fully sink in before commenting.
Myself, I have a lot of very (extremely) diverse interests, too many really for such a short lifetime, I suppose. I have been active on YT since day one. The difference between then and now is unimaginable. And the trend just continues. We have gone from having enthusiastic amateurs creating videos for the pure love of their hobby and discussing interests and ideas to share with others to a shark infested pool of click baits, subscriber numbers / financially driven content providers. That is just the uploaders. The platform itself is another whole other story…
In this specific field, namely photography related channels, that (for me) falls into the whole wider genre of tech-related channels. That would include computers, phones, audio, gaming, all that shiny new good stuff you will find in a single mega store. The people who would love to spend every weekend in those stores lusting after all that tech are the prime audience for these YT channels. It’s all about the latest gear, the tech, not the artform or the thought process. With a small number of exceptions, if the YT algorithm allows you to find them…
I don’t mean to offend anyone, I have no problem if tech and specs is your bag.
But all these types of channels begin to look like clones of each other, the production values are similar, and their ‘studios’ look similar with the scripted videos, insane editing, fancy lighting, elaborate decor and well positioned pot plants (fake plants, presumably). “Like, click, subscribe, patreon” bla bla. I have unsubscribed to so many channels I used to follow, so many others just died. “Why I switched from Canon to Sony”. Followed 2 weeks later by “Why I am dropping Sony”.
There are fewer and fewer options for me these days, despite my interests being so wide ranging. But my less ‘mainstream’ hobbies are sometimes still catered for, only in ever decreasing numbers. I am no luddite. I do love vintage tech, I have SLR film cameras, a 1970’s turntable, but also a music streamer/DAC from 2024 and the latest iPhone. Modern tech is great, I have no problem with the tech in and of itself. But that is not the issue here, is it? It is all about cynical manipulation.
I can guess at some of the people you have approached for an interview and to be frank with you, it is no loss to me personally that they declined.
I would much prefer to see an open and honest interview with someone like yourself, who seemingly still uploads purely for the love of it and for the connection with real people.
You know, I would enjoy to know why you ended up in Taiwan. Why you love typewriters and old analogue “tech” so much (as you know, we have briefly communicated on this before). Are you still considering purchasing that scooter? What are your thought processes on that. How did you adapt to being a foreigner in another country (like me). Do you suffer from isolation, or do you actually enjoy that?
What kind of line of work are you in? What you want for your kids in future. What motivates you to jump out of bed and grab a camera and head outside. Do you have any thoughts for a themed project/portfolio. Endless list.
I don’t need your advice on what camera body to buy next if I am told I need 1 million focus points and the ability to film in 16K.
Guess I just wanted to give you a nod and say you are not on your own.
Keep well and safe.
This is a fantastic comment. Give me a bit to put a proper response together...
I always follow your videos. Nowadays there is a lot of concern about views and photographic equipment. Good, quality photography is possible with any camera available on the market. a 6D or a classic 5D are perfectly capable of making you money, as are crop cameras. People are very lost in the face of all the options for cameras and features.
Wow, I thought I already responded to this. I guess I didn't... sorry about that.
I completely agree. It's one of the reasons why I have had so many cameras across all brands and eras. At the end of the day, it's a tool for capturing an image of a moment. If it is functioning and it is capable of capturing an image, then you can really make magic with it.
History has a way of sanitizing truth, I am 62 and grew up in the muscle car era, we raced and modified cars to be better and faster. Folks talk about late 60's early 70's cars like they were so much better, what they don't see is today a powerful 4 cylinder makes as much power as a muscle car V8 did back then, todays car handle better have better brakes and require less maintenance. Ask an old timer in the Sunday car show with his 69 Mopar and he will tell you how todays cars have no soul, maybe, its all relative and viewpoint driven, funny that DSLR lovers have the same "its sounds like a camera" argument as the V8 guys will tell you, "this is what power sounds like " lol
I always found it funny how guys talk about how fast those old muscle cars were, when they were actually pretty slow by today's standards. My wife drives a modern 4 cylinder crossover that has a better 0-60, higher top speed, shorter stopping distance, and better cornering/handling than a majority of the most iconic "muscle cars". All while getting better gas mileage, being more comfortable, etc.
Of course, the problem now is that the newest cars from more and more manufacturers are starting to really push the "planned obsolescence" aspect. Water pumps made of plastic. Multiple parts sharing a common housing (which they can't be separated from) so the failure of one part requires the replacement of the entire housing and all the parts in it. Emissions systems that lead to premature failure of the intake and valve systems. Not all brands are doing it, but more and more are.
This is why I love and hate RUclips. On the one side we have channels like yours that talk sense into us but I am also weak enough to fall for the other ones that gives FOMO with any new dumb piece of gear. I recently came back from Paris. I was so afraid not to take “newer” gear so I mostly took photos with my D3 and to this day I think it was the most satisfying photography trip of my life.
Every once in awhile, a new camera will come out that catches my attention and I will binge watch review videos (like the Nikon ZF). I do notice that it happens less often, though. But, I'm almost always in the mood for a cheap camera challenge or seeing someone push the limits in terms of creativity.
The algorithm got it right. This video popped up in my recommendation and I'm glad I pressed play. This is why I'm glad I print. It's the closest to being able to get back to having the medium decide the look, not the Digital sensor and post edit.
I wish more people would print their work. It brings a whole new life and point of reference to photography..
Im a RUclips photographer and wear it proudly 😂 I think I've paid my dues working as a photojournalist for 25 years doing thousands of assignments as a staff photographer. That experience doesn't seem to matter much on RUclips :) so I'm only on YT to show some of my new work. This was a thoughtful post, keep up the good work.
I am immediately wanting to hear your stories. I love photojournalism and you have not only done it, but you have 25 years of high level photography. Where are you based?
@@SkylerKing I'm based I'm Oregon, I spent the bulk of my career working as a staff photographer for the Albany Democrat-Herald. I actually just uploaded a video talking about being an introvert and working as a photojournalist on my other channel @DavidPattonPhotography maybe that's why YT put this video in my feed.
Just subbed you I checkout your channel asap as a working news shooter I love seeing others work cheers
Thanks for speaking out what I have in mind. Takes a lot of courage also as you blew the whistle on our YTubers. I think the fact that famous photographers of our time dont ever do a gear review speaks volume. They never mention about their equipment. To me - RUclipsrs are not photographers. They are entertainers. And they sell views. Their photos are mediocre and edited heavily with their preset packs which they repeatedly tried to sell in our face. What is annoying is that the good photographers gets eclipsed by them and the YT algorithm. It is just like Ig where a random photo that gets 4 figures likes in a snowball effect simply because it is Peter Mckinnon account.
I completely agree. I have lost track of how many times I have seen videos recommended by big channels with big followings, only to find that those videos have no real substance at all and the photos are completely lifeless. Then, every once in awhile, I will come across a video from a very small channel with nearly no followers and all I can think throughout their video is "How does this person not have a huge following!?".
Great thought’s throughout this video. Imho RUclips has become essential to me I live a bit differently I don’t watch traditional tv being forced to sit through something I have zero interest in so with YT I can focus my viewing listening time to whatever I want when I want. I started my channel years ago as a distraction during a divorce it was awful but I like to think it’s better than it was it’s still a massive learning curve but I enjoy it. I’m still a full time news photographer 20 years this week on my current paper I love it canon all day every day never lets me down however I still have much of my old film gear so I’ll dig that out for channel content or buy ap new to me old camera and see what I can do with it. RUclips for me is never going to be a worthwhile money earner I see it as an amazing outlet for my obsession and something for my grandkids to look back on if they have time. I personally watch so many RUclipsrs and not wanting to be a knob Head but there’s a fair few out there with huge following who talk well have incredible screen presence but display pretty average photography I still watch them and hit a like because they’ve made an effort and like I say it’s good viewing yet others I prefer with low subs who are not the most polished presenters but their work inspires me to keep shooting even though I don’t need inspiration as photography is the one constant in my life. Regarding gear reviews yeah I watch lots I enjoy some but David Hancock is my go too too quality channel. Liked and subbed cheers I’ll checkout more of your content.
your video is pure truth. It is part of the reasons why I went back to film, why I bought Affinity photo 2 for life and why I started blogging to try to stop this snowball of nonsense.
The sadest part is even RUclips doesn’t incentive honesty
Unfortunately, RUclips actually seems to incentivize and reward all of the worst aspects of... well, everything.
First of all, props for being able to talk for an hour without using very, very few filled pauses.
Lots of good thoughts, but towards the very end, I don't think someone shutting you down immediately equals them being a fake or a bad person. It's kinda like I was making candy in my garage and selling it in my local market because I believe in direct, local action and I don't care about becoming a multi-national company and then wondering why Mars or whoever doesn't want to spend their time on me.
That said I wasn't on the receiving end of the e-mails from the youtubers, you were, so you know the exact words they used and I don't want what I said to take away from the rest of the video. I especially love the BMW/Canon comparison when it comes to being a product. I'm 100% with you on that one. I also believe there's very little reason to upgrade cameras now because Lightroom's AI can turn a decently well-exposed ISO3200 RAW from a 20-year-old Canon 30D into a perfectly fine image by 2024 standards. Also, SaaS is shittifying essentially everything it touches.
Oh, I didn't mean that they were fake because they shut me down. If someone doesn't reply to me, no big deal. Some have turned me down, but they weren't going out of their way to be rude or anything, so again, no big deal. I was specifically referring to the ones that responded by directly and sometimes creatively insulting me for even asking. Those are the ones that leave me thinking "wow, what a dick".
Back in the day (late 2010s) I did a satirical channel sending up RUclips photographers for what they were with funny edits, skits and memes and it took off pretty quickly and got tens of thousands of views and the subs were in the thousands and growing. Every single one of them cockroaches- granger, Forbes, the northrups, Lanier - literally everyone who was anyone mass flagged it and got the channel struck off by RUclips. Shame it was a real funny time. Thomas Heaton was a good sport about it. I even had smaller Chanel’s reaching out asking to be sent up as we had the eyes of some influential people on us at the time.Was a funny time, shame the photography mafia got it took down. 😂
I actually remember seeing those videos. I had wondered what happened to them.
I love my canon f1 which I still using because I am teaching b&w film to campers during the summer
Each video you post is like a breath of fresh air. Thank you. Do you have any channel recommendations of RUclipsrs in the same vibe as you ? Meaning honest and passionate about a subject. (Btw I'm opened to recommendations from any topic really, not just photography)
Let me think on it and I will let you know.
Like your studio.
Thank you, I'm happy with it. Just my office, though. No studio for me.
Canon tried to make me feel that my M6 mark II is no good anymore. Their greed turned me to hate the R series. I still use my M6II and I will keep using it until the internet can't accept photos anymore. Good video.
This is the first time I have seen a photographer with an "Eleiko" t-shirt. Kind of cool!! I have moved a lot of Eleiko plates during my life. :)
It's the only thing from Eleiko that I could afford 😄
@@SkylerKing :D It's kind expensive. I never owned anything from Eleiko myself. Just some gyms I have been too trough the years. :) I like your videos by the way. But it is our national day here in Norway, I'll have to finish it later.
Happy Nasjonaldagen!
@@SkylerKing Thanks. :)
Steve McCurry used small Nikon cameras because of his disability. But he now uses two Leica SL2 with three zoom lenses. It must be easier to manipulate than the Nikon 810 he used for a while. I also assume he has some financial connection to Leica.
I don't doubt the smaller cameras were easier for him to handle. I do remember him mentioning something in an interview about other reasons for choosing the cameras he chose. These days, I think it's just a matter of whoever is paying for his endorsement.
@@SkylerKing he damaged his arm in a fall while young. He uses a grip on the bottom of the camera to position it with his right hand then zooms, focuses, makes exposure adjustments, then releases the shutter with his left hand.
@bngr_bngr Yes, I'm aware of that. I've also seen him use countless large, heavy cameras and I've heard him directly talk about his camera choices in multiple interviews.
I farted about with an old second hand EOS 50D and a kit lens. Because that what I could afford. We just had a baby and moved to a new country. Then my step son gifted me his old SOny A7 and a lens that Is till my main camera. But when finances picked up al little I could not afford more lenses fro the Sony, until I discovered adapters, and now I have two Canon L lenses for it, plus a Samyang 14mm with an EF mount and plan to get a Canon EOS 5D II or a 6D, and will consider that an upgrade, even if I go back to an older dSLR. Simply because I can afford pro grade glass for the old EF system. And with adapters I can still use them on my mirrorless body if I want to carry something lighter f.eks on family outings.
Aside from the title of my video on Kodak Gold being a lightbulb moment for you, what does my channel or myself have to do with the bulk of this video? Kinda feels like I’m being lumped in with all of the remarks about other people because I’m a “RUclipsr” but I could be mistaken.
Would you prefer that I respond publicly or privately?
@@SkylerKing I don’t mind either way. Just saw a photo of myself in the thumbnail next to nobody I watch or would align myself with, so it just struck me as odd.
I wasn't trying to lump you in with anyone else. My videos are almost always shot off the cuff, with nothing scripted or planned out ahead of time. So I often will start on one thought or line of thinking and do not get back to it or finish it.
To clarify, my general thought process while shooting this video (though I didn't articulate it fully) was that there was a time that seemed to be a golden age for RUclips photography channels. Kai & Lok, Jared Polin, Matt Granger, Gordon Laing, Tony & Chelsea, You, Matt Ballard, Blunty, Ted Forbes, Darren Miles, and many more. Fast forward to today, and some of those channels have changed focus, others aren't around anymore, some of them still focus on photography but have a radically different approach to RUclips, etc. Very few of them still feel the way they used to, like real people who genuinely just love photography and want to share it. Your channel is one that I put in the last category, which is why I guess I mentioned it in the positive light of "I was watching a Matt Day video" but then didn't mention it again once I started discussing the disappointing trends I see with a lot of current RUclips photography channels.
Also, though I assume you don't watch my channel, your particular word choice of "nobody I would watch or align myself with" seems a bit... Odd?
I appreciate you clarifying that. Without saying anything specific about me after the start, I assumed it wasn’t directed towards me but I wasn’t sure. As for the other channels mentioned and in the thumbnail alongside my picture, they’re just genuinely channels I don’t watch and those that I have seen before, I wouldn’t categorize my channel with theirs. That could totally just be me and how I would hope my videos are perceived, but I’m obviously biased in that and I don’t know how people perceive my videos unless they’re a regular viewer. But I’ve seen/heard enough about “The Angry Photographer” or Jared Polin or Jason Lanier that I know I wouldn’t put my face next to theirs.
Well, to be fair, I also have photos of Henri Cartier Bresson and Steve McCurry sharing the thumbnail with you. Along with RUclipsrs that I actually like (Amar, from CameraSutra247, Darren Miles, and Kai & Lok). I understand what you mean, though. If you prefer, I can edit the thumbnail to remove your photo?
About the Canon subscription model: My guess is, that you will get the hardware, but probably only a "light" or basic version from the software, codecs whatever. With more premium subscription, you could get access to more software for a certain time, or even a cloud service, like adobe photoshop. But would that mean, that your camera has to be online the whole time? Will the extra functions just shut down after a certain time with no online connection?
But at the moment, that´s only wild assumptions. We have to wait, to get the real thing. But if that will be a thing, all other brands will do the same, that´s for sure.
I'm hoping for the best, but bracing for the worst. Hopefully it doesn't go that route.
Kiddo my observation is the audience on tubeyou is inexperienced and ill informed, that's why gear reviews get the most play. I have had discussions with folks in comments when they weigh in on what's the best only to find out they dent even own a camera, its a waste of time to try to educate folks who don't want to learn, or think they know everything✌✌
You've been the voice of reason I'm these comments sections, for years. I'm glad to see you're still around.
@@SkylerKing within capitalism there will always be a struggle between producer and consumer. Can't blame them for trying to make the most profit and you can't blame us for fighting to get the most for our money. We'll have to see how these subscriptions are rolled out before we can make a real determination, there's a film called Charlie Wilson's war where one of the characters tells a story about the zen master and as the story progresses, the zen master repeats the phrase. We'll see when confronted with judgments on whether something is good or bad
That's true. Everyone complained about Adobe switching to subscriptions, but I personally didn't mind. There are a lot of factors between the product, the service, the price, how things are implemented, etc. Even then, it comes down to the individual. Some will love it, some will hate it.
Can i get everyones opinion
I want to wait and save to for the sony a 7r5
When i buy stuff i tend to keep it for the long run
But best buy is selling a used sony a73 for 1600 with a kit lense
I feel like the sony a73 wont last me as long
I have the sony zv1 for 2 years i love it but the photos are so dark
I travel alot and I'm starting to travel again next month
I also want a camera that can get me into professional work
Should i buy the a73 or wait and get the a7r5 for 3200 body only
If you are planning on using it professionally, and you can afford the A7Rv without breaking the bank, then the higher price shouldn't be a reason to avoid it. The A7iii is still a very good camera, though. While the A7Rv is technically "better", you won't benefit from or notice the improved specs or performance if you aren't doing some incredibly demanding things... So why spend the extra money?
If I planned on using the camera professionally for years to come, like 4 or 5 years or more, I'd probably go with the A7Rv.
If I only thought I'd only have it for a couple of years or I wasn't using it as a full time professional, though, I'd save the money and go with the A7iii..
@@SkylerKing yeah I might just go for the a73 and save 2-3 grand
Thanks for the reply
‘Henri Cartier Bronson’ ????? Bro
I know... I know... I didn't catch it until editing 🫠
I'm actually shocked nobody else has mentioned it.
@@SkylerKingAt least you didn’t throw the ubiquitous Ansel Adams (because that’s the only real photographer I ever heard of) name into the ring 😊
Tell them like it is bro. You are spot on. Wheeler was a sham artist and what he did to Jason was really sick. I was in the thick and thin of the whole thing. I have all the details. They destroyed his family life.
That is very unfortunate. I was really hoping that he was able to keep it from affecting his family.
@@SkylerKing there is a lot that I cannot openly share, but Ken destroyed a lot of people.
I don't doubt that at all.
Always used to buy the cheapest film I could find - mostly Kodak gold or various knock offs of. Used to, up until about five years ago be able to find gold or color plus for £1 per roll in poundland here in the uk. I bought cases of it. Now it’s 8-12 per roll. Ridiculous. I think any hobby that requires ’stuff’ will always have the gear whores associated with it. I do think, however, that the photography community is one of the most toxic. And I mean toxic. Some people can be utterly vile. -Dee Rosa is one.
I’ve said to you before you’re one of the few channels I watch because you don’t really care about gear - Martin castien is another, it’s really refreshing. I actually quit photography fit a few years because I was burnt out/overwhelmed by all the constant push to upgrade to the latest and greatest, and talk of soft corners or purple fringing etc. I just didn’t give a shit.
I’ve never understood this mentality of - an old basic film camera and lenses are great, (or even old ccd digicams!) but a slightly older model dslr is antiquated and basically crap and unusable. It just doesn’t make sense to me.
I’ve used everything from a phase one to a home made pinhole camera (from a monster energy can) and had great pictures from all of them, and had crap pictures from them too.
My preference is the early-mid 2000’s fuji xpro 1 and im just about to go back to a 5d2. I spent a whole 12 hour shift at work a couple of days ago looking through Flickr and the internet. All the pictures that I liked or that spoke to me were shot with either black and white film (tri X mostly) or the 5d/5d2. Don’t know why. The newer cameras just don’t do anything for me. Are they cool? Absolutely. But from an ‘art’ perspective they just don’t really have that ‘thing’ for me.
I haven't heard of Dee Rosa, but I'm tempted to take a peek and see what that's about. Also, the rising price of film is one of the reasons why I so rarely shoot it anymore. I love film. But as you pointed out, paying up to $15 for a roll of Kodak Gold while so many other film stocks are either no longer made or are seemingly unattainable is just insanity. Like you, i have used a lot of cameras and can likely use anything and get good results. Usually, what I find pulling me in the direction of one camera or another is its story. Be it a personal story of how it came into my life, or it's a more broad reaching story about that particular model's history or something like that.
@@SkylerKing he’s a self appointed gate keeper to the ‘art’ of photography. He had a beef with Peter McKinnon a while back and a couple others. Like dude what’s it got to do with you what someone else takes pictures of. He even went on a small tirade against me in one video because I dared correct him on something. He’s just a small little man. Shame because he’s actually quite a good photographer.
If you believe "negativity kills creativity" you will avoid the Ken Wheelers of this world at all costs
His channel makes me wish there was a block feature on RUclips to stop some channels from showing up in searches
@@Augnos you can choose "don't recommend channel" on the main page with those little dots in upper right
His channel is the definition of online cancer. He is one guy that can sell himself as being the expert on all aspects of photography but is a terrible photographer at the same time. So bad that he has always been afraid of showing any meaningful work.
The who?
Is he even relevant anymore. I thought he lost relevancy when Fuji parted ways with him before the Pandemic.