British Special Boat Service vs US Seal Team 6
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- British Special Boat Service vs US Seal Team 6
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The Special Boat Service is the Royal Navy’s maritime special forces unit. The SBC is under the operational control of the Director Special Forces. The Royal Navy’s Special Boat Service traces its origins back to several units that undertook raids, sabotage and reconnaissance from canoes and submarines during WW2. The origins of Seal Team 6 can be traced back to Navy Seals created by Richard Marcinko in 1980. In 1987 Seal team 6 was dissolved and replaced by Naval Special Warfare Development Group or Devgru, which is still commonly referred to as Seal team 6.
Most of SBC operators are selected from the Royal Marines Commandos. There are two selection courses each year: one in Winter and the other in Summer. Candidates wishing to serve with the Special Boat Service must have completed at least two years' regular service. SBS candidates take part in Joint Special Forces Selection alongside SAS candidates, with their selection and training diverging after the end of the JSFS course. JSFS lasts for 6 months. It is broken down into multiple phases. Before progressing to joint UKSF selection, SBS candidates must pass a 2-week aptitude test, which involves Boating phase, Combat fitness test, SBS swimming test, carrying a folding canoe for 3 miles, canoe paddle and Diving phase. After selection, at which point SAS candidates have passed, SBS candidates continue to the Swimmer Canoeist, also called boating and diving course. It lasts eight weeks and covers specialist maritime skills such as canoeing, diving, boating, underwater navigation and demolition, negotiating surf zones, and submarine infiltration.
According to some estimates the SBS numbers are around 300 standby operators. The Special Boat Service is organized into 4 squadrons C, X, Z, M in addition to a reserve squadron. Squadrons are organized into 4 16-man Troops. Troops are often broken down into 4-man patrols, 2-man canoe teams or 8-man teams (a typical boat-full). The men of C & X Squadron were specialists in canoe and small boat operations. Z Squadron specialized in underwater attack and insertion. The men of M Squadron are trained for Maritime Counter operations. They are ready to respond to threats on ferries, cruise ships, hovercraft, oil tankers, and oil rigs. It is now believed that the SBS squadrons take turns rotating into these roles.
The Government Accountability Office report on special operations forces states that Seal Team 6 has a total of 1,787 authorized positions, with 1,342 being military and 445 being civilian. Devgru is divided into 6 color-coded squadrons. The Red Blue Gold and Silver are assault squadrons. The black squadron is responsible for Intelligence, Reconnaissance, & Surveillance while gray squadron is responsible for mobility teams, transportation and QRF. Each assault squadron is also given a specific nickname. For example, Gold Squadron is known as the Crusaders, Red Squadron as the Indians, Blue Squadron as the Pirates, Silver Squadron as the Headhunters, and Gray Squadron as the Vikings.
Each assault squadron is usually led by a Commander, is divided into three troops, often called assaulters. Each of these troops is commanded by a senior commissioned officer. A Devgru troop is further divided into smaller teams. Each troop has around 16 members and is led by a senior officer. These teams are led by senior Seal officer. The rest of these teams are filled out with more Chief Petty Officers, Petty Officers First Class, and Petty Officers Second Class.
The assault squadrons are supported by a variety of support personnel, including cryptologists, communicators, EOD technicians, dog handlers, and sometimes airmen from the United States Air Force 24th Special Tactics Squadron, the Air Force's JSCO element.
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All American special forces are based on UK special forces they just adapted what was learnt from UK to suit their needs which means they can react to different scenarios in different ways while operating as one unit .
The brits had nothing to do with the SEALs tho you just assumed the brits influenced them when that's just a common misconception
@@jasonclaros7073 Charles Beckwith, a U.S. Army special operations officer, trained with the SAS and played a major role in the founding of the U.S. Army's Delta Force. The SAS is a globally respected unit that has trained many other Special Forces Units, including Delta Force.
SEALS are based on UK's SBS
FACT live with it
No disrespect but it's typical for a lot of Americans that are uneducated on things like this. It's so difficult to accept and to acnoladge that it's a fact and true that their special forces were modeled and originally trained by the British SAS. The British SAS are the best of the best.
@@jasonclaros7073
The whole US special forces is based on the SAS. The SAS remains the blueprint. Plenty of American vets from Iraq and Afghanistan say the Brits are the best when it comes to special forces, no doubt. Also, look up the Iran Embassy Siege -- and that was decades ago.
@@Opie.. That doesn't mean much nowadays. Americans spec ops are now likely the best. For example the CIA was founded after the british MI5/6. Now everyone knows the CIA/ FBI is now better than MI5/6. In the same way tier 1 US spec ops are now better than UK special forces. US is a superpower the UK isn't. Just accept the reality.
A good balanced video. Why ruin it, with a daft question “which one is best”?
SBS and DEVGRU work together regularly as do the SAS and Delta Force. There's a lot of cross training which makes it almost impossible to say who is the best. They cherry pick ideas from each other.
I think both seal team 6 and delta are more specialist and sas and sbs are more dynamic
Sorry, but you are wrong. The SBS and the SAS are just as specialised as DEVGRU and DELTA. The latter was also based on the SAS. Read about US Colonel Charles Beckwith, who having been seconded to the SAS in the early 60s, on returningto the US Army, lobbied the top brass to create a similar unit in the US. DELTA, formed in 1977, was the result. @onepunchflan3071
@@onepunchflan3071 None of that is backed by any concrete information
SBS do a lot of their training in freezing waters and waters so murky you can barely see your hands in front of you. The fact that they have at least 40 years more experience has got to factor into it. The Seals have more operators and resources.
Yeah I've heard seals talking about training with our s.b.s and they said they all respect the sbs because of the conditions they work in and the lack of the equipment we have, they were also impressed with the way the sbs guys would improvise when they lacked a peice of equipment. there's a reason we have the best special forces in the world and that's the men who get selected to do that job a big percentage of the sas and sbs are made up of highlanders either Scottish,Fijian or ghurkas. we kick ass when it's time to party .😂
@@RossNaylor-uq4jp Well said
I read a bit from a SEAL who was training and put in the SAS team while one from the SAS joined the SEALs. They went against each other, and guess who won according to the SEAL? The Brits. He says they were levels ahead and pretty much all their shots were on target in comparison.
@@Opie.. was he Seal team 6? Because there is a big difference.
@@azieldaly2965 We're talking tier 1 here, yes.
If you put both of them together it would really come down to who gets who first
I think sbs would use their prowess in reconnaissance which imo is miles ahead of any of the seal teams
You say the SEALs would win on land, dont agree with that. The SEALs have so much support and tech to back them up, they have a good chance against the SBS. But if its just man V man id say the SBS, for the same reason. The SBS guys dont have much support, so if you take all support away. The Brits would have a big advantage. Over the SEALs.
Nonesense Brits use the same tech which they acquire from America.
SBS the boys from pool is who I would call crack on lads!
I know very little about either of them. The little I know about SEALs is based on movies and TV, and therefore, most likely just fiction.
And the sas do land ops so its silly to compare both have different responsibilities
SBS also work on land! definitely not a true reflection on either side. SAS and SBS, aswell as SRS all work hand in hand with US SF share knowledge and tactics. So this type of comparison is BS.
The SEALS have never met a book that they didn’t want to write. SBS operators are more professional and don’t write books about their missions. You never hear about their missions
I can name you quite a few former operators that are public now
That's true to a point. SAS and DELTA seem to be a lot more tight lipped. A lot more information on SEAL training and missions on Internet than DELTA and SAS.
Video summary Special boat service is the best
🤘😎👍
Both as lethal with one on a budget the other on a shoe string lokl
Good video
Most SBS operators come from the Royal Marines Commandos, already considered elite.
Only 1 / 1000 applicants make it through RM “selection” to earn their green beret as a RM commando. Even then, there’s a further >90% failure rate on UK SF selection.
RMs has a legacy. Which unit should we compare with them?
@@Grid88 I think there could be comparisons between RM and MARSOC. Also some of the SEAL teams (other than 6 / DEVGRU which is aligned with SBS).
As a former Royal it’s a tricky one as RM are primarily green army. When in a green role they are probably in part similar to SEALs as a whole, but with the teams having a wide range of CT usage the SFSG RM element is closer to
SEAL teams, but we also have Mountain leaders who
Are super elite and Squadron Reconnaissance Teams (SRTs), so we have elements that are more specialized so it’s not like for like - but Royal marine basic training is the longest and most arduous basic training in the world and even our band members do it as a commando first then a band member. So 1% of people are capable of becoming a Royal marine and we often trained with seal teams and MARSOC so it’s hard to know where we fit lol
@@andydavies9699 Was hoping you could clear up something here that still has me confused. Wikipedia also says RM training is the longest infantry training of all NATO countries, but every source says 32 weeks (8 months).
US Pararescue takes 2 years to complete. German KSK, 4 years. SAS & Delta (if memory serves) 9 months.
I'm not understanding how it works out to the longest.
Royal Marines are not Army anything. They're part of the Royal Navy. Recently, RM basic has been increased to 36 weeks. That qualifies the Marine as a "General duties" Marine, as in, Navy equivalent of a Field Army Rifleman. After that, the Marine can go on to do specialist training in a variety of roles.
SBS is unknown compared to the SAS ..infact I bet SAS is more a cover for operation to the SBS
SAS beat the SBS but not when it comes to anything around water.Both do the same selection but When the SAS man is done the SBS man still has more training to do.The SBS man has a harder job,you try exiting a submarine through the torpedo tube at night,then spend most of your day in ice cold water or in shark infested waters.I'd rather be an sas man but I have nothing but respect for both.
@user-buck-b7j I sort of disagree because a lot if sbs are royal marine commandos who are highly traind to start and also a lot more educate then the army soldiers
@@christopherjones6607 That's true.As a Canadian whose ex infantry,I'm a fan of the SAS,SBS,Marines and paras.All well trained professional units.You just need to improve your rations ,we affectionately call british army types shit eaters.lol
@@user-buck-b7j SBS has outperformed the SAS since the Falklands 1982
@@user-buck-b7j lol You're amazing. Put it this way, America calls SBS when they can't get shit done. UK is 40 years ahead, dude. SEALs are a blueprint with less experience.
Honestly its like saying can the older brother beat up the younger brother as America was a by product of the British. Age catches up to people. There is no greater ally than the British/Canadians.
Not sure why you lads are looking at hypothetical ‘who’s the best’ we work together guys
SBS hands down superior.
considering most sbs came from the royal marine commandos ,they are already top tier troopers,the marine corps are not in the same league as the royal marine commandos...Im gonna say SBS would be more professional and more lethal...sorry yanks but its true.....We have all heard the saying ,all the gear and no idea...well this springs to mind..
You can't even get basic facts straight and you come along with the phrase "sorry yanks but it's true"?
Dev doesn't recruit from the USMC!!
All the gear and no idea is certainly true in this case. You probably have a top-tier keyboard to spout your nonsense. I've served alongside the US military, and there is no difference in professionalism between us and the septics. A different approach, perhaps, but that's it. But you wouldn't know that as you've never served a day in your life, have you.
Why is always about that fucking country called America. Brit SF all the way....
America and Britain have supported and helped each other for well over a century. Having pride in your country is great but how about having a little gratitude for the people who supported and died for you from " that fucking country called America".
lol!!! not being funny
this is yet another american driven, american made upload!!!
now lets look at some brief facts, the SBS DON'T just specialise in or around the water as this feature states!!! it heavily trains with the SAS & has multiple completed missions within land situated conflicts (IRAQ, Afghanistan, Argentina, Northern Island, multiple nations in Africa, multiple nations in Europe as the SBS did originally form during ww2, Kosovo, Bosnia & so-on
now as this is also heavily american biased... the pass rate for both SAS & SBS are usually below 20% "combined" unlike the Navy Seals...
entry into the SAS & SBS you must be an active serving military service member (except for reserve units... however educational standards/expectations are above basic secondary & college qualification) You also must have served for multiple years & only have a 2-3yr remaining in your military term of service.. not forgetting usually have an above basic trooper rating
now as mentioned!! the training periods for both SAS & SBS are several months for your basic passing out, that is NOT your complete training, as you then have multiple years for your chosen specialist area... so trying to pass seal training to SAS/SBS well your massively mistaken
Swear you used Royal Marine Commando's footage for 99% of the SBS. SBS are pretty much unknown, I think 99% of the UK didn't even know they existed until about 10 years ago. I also think the SBS became more ingrained when the SAS who dares wins TV show started were 3 of the instructors were former SBS. Whenever British Special Force's were reported in the press at one point it was just "British Special Force's and people would just assume that it was the SAS.
Very cool history attached to both units.
Thank you. Pls share the video.
It’s hypothetical so there’s no answer.
James Bond commander SBS )))
Wouldn’t they be super sailors not soldiers given they’re from the navy.
The other thing i find strange is that you can never have been in the military but can go straight in to seal teams
You can't be ON the SEAL teams if not in military. Civilian personnel would do stuff like paperwork, ordering supplies, and stuff in the rear.
The yanks have more money and tools,we brits deal with it and get on with what we have
Money and tools don't substitute skill, they enhance it. DEVGUR is what the SBS is with more training, money and resources.....and book deals
SEALS coming in off the street vs Marines with a green lid three years active duty and then SFUK training. lol no contest
Dev doesn't recruit from guys off the street. Where tf did you get than sht from?
That true, you don't need to be a soldier to become a Navy SEAL. But UK Special Forces are only selected from EXISTING soldiers. So, they truly are best of the best!
@@burgundycommander i didn't say DEV Group recruits off the street. The white side SEALS do. Why do you make up shit?
@@archangel0137 stop comparing regular Seals to UKSF. Devgru only selects from Seals. You people know so little yet talk with so much confidence.
Seals would win on land? lmao do you really beleive that? You Septic tanks are yet to win a war on your own and lose against most third world nations. How did Afghanistan go again? Oh thats right..... YOU RAN AWAY!
why do you say Zee .. ?
its just Z
You cant even spell colour i.e. Color ..
neither can you say aluminium..
You just say alluminum ..
Then came drones and fucked the doctrine
🤠🥰😇 seal team 6
UK Special Forces (SAS & SBS) are by far superior. Even the Navy SEALs admit it:
ruclips.net/user/shortsDOT0TsID99U?si=NxKPGhod9gbc0UFa
The SAS is the hallmark of excellence for ALL special forces. Always has been, always will be... The SBS are just the same as the SAS, but they specialise in amphibious missions
He said nothing about them being "far superior" i any way shape or form. He was literally talking about their humor
Lol, you Brits have to literally compare tier 3 SEALs to your tier 1 just to be equal/better. Tells you who is better. News flash, he was from vanilla SEAL TEAM, not DEVGRU
Meanwhile, we have an SAS operator outright say that Delta was better during a training exercise. Delta Force DOMINATES The SAS- David Hookstead- look it up
Cheers.
@@ssgtomen621 don’t be dense.
Seals aren’t tier 3, they’re tier 2.
Do you even know what the tier system implies? Ut has to do with the amount of funding a unit gets.
Lindsay Bruce is only referring to shooting skills when he ways that they are “better”.
He even gives the reason. By that time, his squadron had’t served time in Special projects yet, which is CT training, meaning that shooting is the nb 1 focus.
U like the SAS, Delta force have CT training part of their selection called OTC.
Delta force in general sets much more importance on shooting than the SAS do, because pretty much their soul tasks, unlike the SAS
@burgundycommander7589 Fully aware of JSOC tier system. Point, vanilla seals are not comparable to the SBS. In some lose equivalent, that video link is misleading by equating tier 3( yes, I believe SEALs are tier 3, or not oh well, learn and let live) to the level of SBS, which is just not true. DEVGRU would be more comparable, and no shooter from any JSOC unit has admitted that the SAS/SBS are better. High praise, but never better...
True, but all the same, you have a comparable organization, an SAS shooter who has already gone through the process provide insight on what is already been long established. Before or after, it's expected. Delta is just next level in CQB. Which is more than what that dude with is cheap could offer.
Mate, thanks for the added context. Though, i got to add that CAG is multi disciplined, not just in shooting. Their troops/squadrons are trained in more than just HR and CT, like the SAS, go through additional training post OTC in specific skills- Special Recon, mountain warfare, Jungle warfare course and other specialized school within the US and abroad.
@@ssgtomen621 i never justified comparing regular seals to SBS.
And they’re tier 2. I don’t know where you’re getting the notion that they’re tier 3.
In terms of role, sure Dev is a better comparison but in terms of selection, Delta is more comparable to SBS.
It’s a well established fact that Delta are the best shooters, and they are so for a reason.
You get good but with repetition. More repetitions = more time. Deltas primary role is CT. Of course they have smaller elements who specialise in other skillsets, but overall they’re not as much as an allrounder like the SAS/SBS are.
The US has the means to have 2 units fully dedicated to CT.
The UKSF doesn’t have as many units like USSOCOM and JSOC does. The US has the numbers and funds to have many different units specialised in specific tasks, the UK doesn’t. That’s why the SAS do CT rotations.
Also unlike JSOC, the UKSF also has to fulfil domestic obligations.
You’re basing your opinion on whether or not operators say certain things.
JSOC members not saying whether or not UKSF is better means nothing.
UKSF doesn’t have OTC. They have continuation training after selection.
Delta OTC is part of their selection a d it revolves around CT, just like Green Team. That just further solidifies my point that they are CT dedicated units.
Seal team 6 all day. Both US and British spec ops dudes have said that the US allocates more money for training as well as the best equipment in the world 🥃
Theres an argument for it, which with the extra funding equipment and support there shouldnt be. Meaning sbs are on par with much worse conditions. Therefore sbs are the better force. Give the sbs the same as the seals and they would be levels above
@ nah. There was an sbs guy on David hookstead that said that devgrus guys were bigger and stronger and their shooting and cqb standards were more stringent.
@Bravefit vice versa
@@dh6865 nah. When i saw the sbs guys in masul they were lean, slim dudes. Like endurance athletes. When it comes to cqb standards - I don’t even think that’s debatable 🥃
Where’d all that money get them during Operations Redwings and Eagle Claw?
Name a single USSOF operation that comes close to some of the greats the UKSF have pulled off. I’ll wait.
England has the worst Military
Why?
Lols!
Won more wars than the yanks, they can't win on their own!
England does not have a military, the United Kingdom does. If you can't get even basic information correct, what makes you think you have the knowledge necessary to assess the quality of the UK's military?
@@stevebarlow3154 kid sorry but, your wrong...
England has a military,
Scotland has a military,
north/south Ireland
wales etc
Great Britain, the united kingdom doesn't have a military... however co-operation between nations does exist & Scotland & England can/do act together, with the welsh Irish, but we're not a singular force (think of it like nato, even the UN... nations acting together)
yes in recent yrs Scotland/Ireland have refused to send troops into area's they fail to agree with our English governments ideas, thoughts etc
The united kingdom doesn't have a military force, it has a co-operation of nations..... hence when military conflicts arise, English units attend, Scottish could attend only if the Scottish government agree to sent its troops & so-on... in short the English government doesn't have powers over & above other British nations!!....
this person zaro7808 "really don't care" fails to realise the American's would have nothing unless our units trained there's originally, now the american forces as a whole are better funded then our british counterparts "that doesn't mean there better" as we see all the time american special forces failing, being killed, happily breaking classified data breaches etc as they expect recognition, to be known etc.. out forces dont "now realise who's more professional" then see how our underfunded forces have more successful missions, then the americans, much less deaths per percentage of ppl in theatre & so-on...
ultimately this chap "England has the worst military" this person is clueless, witless & brainless
Both great fighting forces !!! But our UK Boys Win all day long !!!!! Our boys just make things happen and go the extra mile !!!!
SPS ? GET A GRIP FOR CHRIST'S SAKE !
he said "submarine infiltration" 😭🤌🏻
Seal team 6 is part of the Navy Seal teams. SBS is the service itself. The question should be who is the sub branch of SBS that is most like Seal team 6?
not really the SBS is part of the navy, just as the SAS is part of the army & yes there are elite branches of these you will hardly ever hear about "if ever at all!" unlike the americans who will happily stand with a news reporter & have a live interview at the scene after a contact, then sign a film contract to produce a grossly false image & historical fact less film depicting the American acts of valour. marine commando's & para's also have higher elite regiments again, you don't hear about, the army also have such ie "path finders" these train with the SAS/SBS, this channel is just yet another praise american forces & push aside anyone else...... I'd even say look further afield & you'll also barely hear of other nations special forces, there missions, abilities etc as they dont promote them, dont talk about them & so-on
Black hawk down... maybe look into the actual events rather then believe the film
horse men....
zero dark thirty
lone survivor
the list goes on, even saving private Ryan.... many facts are fake, false...
then also ask why has america refused to obey the international war crimes commission &so-on, making there military a self served force why by no-one is at the risk of international convictions, hearings etc for war crimes
The fck are you talking about? Devgru isn't part of the Seal teams. It's a completely separate entity. The SBS is a unit just like Devgru is