The entire history of KTM motorcycles
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- History of KTM, and how the company developed through the years.
Everything you need to know about the KTM motorcycle brand.
This video explores how KTM got started, where they are made, how the company went bankrupt, how they got so big, and became one of the most successful off-road motorcycle brand in the world.
This is a brief history on the success story KTM motorcycles, the in Dakar Rally, Enduro World Championships, and FIM Motocross World Championships.
Looks like we a got new player in youtube motosphere. Amazing production.
You did a really great job on this, I appreciate the relevant footage and history.
You skipped over the MOST important part of the story, which was the motorcycle that John Penton asked for from Husqvarna was not to be built, and so he went to KTM instead, who built a bike to HIS SPECIFICATIONS, which became the first real offroad motorycle made by KTM, and sold ONLY by Penton. They were NOT sold by anyone else until KTM broke the signed agreement with Penton and started distributing the same motorcycles under the KTM name.....hence killing the Penton brand.
I appreciate everybody who provided some information regarding the connection between Penton and KTM. I started racing motocross in January 1972, and there were many Pentons racing at that time.
Penton had a lot more to do in helping build the brand besides importing a few bikes... John Penton pretty much transformed them from a moped maker to producing the finest dirtbikes of that Era, impossible without his vision and involvement... still, an excellent video, keep em coming
So KTM's early success comes from not being a KTM. And their later success comes from buying succeasful parts companies because they couldn't make good ones if they tried. Everything good about KTM comes from the outside.
Let’s get real … KTM stole Penton.
I had a 125 Penton in about 1970 that I raced in places like Saddleback Park, Carlsbad and Bay Mare in southern Kalifornia. It was a nice bike fore it's day and I was sad to see them go. @@FilosophicalPharmer
Penton was a true visionary.
Damn man , what a well made video , good job ! when i saw it had under 1k views i was like "wtf is this?" "is RUclips bugged?" .
Lmfao I was a KTM mechanic for five years nothing like watching a brand new bike roll out of the crate, and into the shop for major work🤣🤣🤣🤣
Really good content, great presentation and very entertaining! I'd love to see a series of these videos about different brands. And congrats on your feature on RideApart!
950 adventure, awful?? Now that is blasphemy!
Great job, you kept it concise. Worth mentioning, they own GasGas since 2019.
Just the name and trials bike
No everything
I've owned 2 KTMs... a 1983 air cooled and a 1990 water cooled, both 250cc MXC. Both were excellent trail bikes but the older air cooled was lighter, better handling, and better power from top to bottom of the Rev range. I'd love to have that old 1983 again.
Says: 620 Supermoto, shows 620 Rallye
Says: 990 Super Duke, shows 950 Supermoto.
Great research, I suggest doing a little more next time...
Cool video, thanks - but you GROSSLY understated the contribution John Penton made to KTM's motocross bike understanding, by telling them exactly the specs, parts, and tuning he wanted on his super lightweight bikes. Penton didn't just sell KTMs in America; he sold KTM's he'd engineered for a growing market, and KTM learned a TON from the John Penton relationship, which you sadly have ignored (or never knew). Keep up the enthusiastic production, building the sport!
Great Job.. I used to hang out in a local Penton Dealer shop in Portage MI .. KTM manufactures in Asia and China now too.. I don't like that very much but it keeps the prices down ... Too bad Maico didn't survive..
Wait what? The 950 Adventure was the best bike on its class for decades. It’s literally a bucket list bike for adventure riders. You silly.
Its like, if you know, you know. If not, its just a ugly ass big bike. Experience the same with my 640 Adventure. People who understand, are crazy about it. Everyone else just critiques the orange or thinks its to big. But these Bikes are such beasts. Most other adventure bikes you have to modify for thousands to really be capable to navigate the globe. 950/640, just hop on and explore the world. Even some Hardenduro ist possible on these. And if you just want to go crazy on the street, also no problem. I love them.
The 950 is a awsome bike was made for dakar rally
Great video bud, you should touch on the retooling of all the factories back in like 2012 or so I think. Thats when they started doing crazy stuff like balanced 2 strokes, fuel injected 2 strokes and so on. Great job though, you clearly love KTM like the rest of us.
The Yamaha YZ125 in 1981 was water-cooled.. that was before 1985 🤔🤔🤔
How was the 950 adv awful and the 990 superduke high selling? That's opposite of every list I can find
950 adventure is awful?? Mine is almost 20 years old and still competes with all the newest adventure bikes. Take that back.
Huskvarna is a very Interestinbg CO made Sewing machines and chain saws too ..
also Monarch from Sweden had the best small two stroke Motocross bikes before the 1974 Honda Elsinore.. Marty Smtih rode a Monarch and Lyble Lovit too..
@Mike Skidmore Husqvarna also made rifle's way back a long while ago. Great Swedish brand , then it was AMF of Italy that bought the motorcycle co. in the late 80's or early 90's after that they were purchased by BMW of Germany but still kept the factory in Italy & built the 4t engines in Taiwan and finally in 2014 Stephen Perier of Períer enterprises purchase Husqvarna from BMW and now their owned by KTM of Austria.
@@jeff40 I knew an Italian CO had bought the Husky Name. I knew KTM is the Present Owner.
What happened to Husqvarna Sewing Machines? I once saw an add it showed a sewing machine labeled Bultaco. The add said "here at Bultaco we only make Motorcycles.
I own several Husqvarna Chain Saws and weed trimmers.. I think they even have a Factory in the USA for them. Looks like they put the Husky name on riding lawnmowers and Roto-tillers made by other manufacturers..
They also made rifles and axes.
Wait,,,,dude some argue the 950 adventure is still the best adventure bike ever made?!
"The first 125cc water-cooled motocross bikes".
Correction; In 1981, the Suzuki RM125 and Honda CR125 were liquid-cooled (as was the CR250) and KTM offered both air and liquid cooling.
KTM came out with a single stock and modern linkage rear suspension in 1982, the year after the Honda CR range and Pro-Link. Yamaha had been using a single shock since the mid 70's, Suzuki Full Floater since 1981 and Kawasaki Uni-Trak 1980 both using a heavier and more complex strut system.
KTM, Kawasaki and Maico all came out with disc brakes front and rear though Maico did not make a 125 mxer, both the KTM125 and the Kawasaki KX125 were disc front and rear out of the showroom. (pictured in your feature @4:45 is the 1985 model with drum rear brake)
In 1986, the KTM range came out with a computer Digital Ignition.
The 1984 KTM495 came out with USD forks but depending on market and capacity, the 1985 KTM came with either USD or conventional Marzocchi forks.
I had a 1983 Yamaha YZ250 that was water cooled as well
You really simplified Pentons part in the story 🤷🏻♀️
Enjoyed your video, even the parts you didn’t get quite right (Penton).
Can you make videos on:
• Kawasaki
• Ducati
• Suzuki
• Honda
Amazing video! Really great job...
Had to pause the vid within the first min to make sure I had the hit the subscribe button. Extremely happy to have found your vids, can’t wait to watch you grow
Great video. Just found your channel.
May I request your take on the japanese big four? An maybe the history of the UJMs?
thank you
INTERESTING! A touch glib, progressing wildly and a liitle light on depth. But not bad, for "not a bike guy".
Pro Level rear suspension?😂 LMAO.... Pro Lever with a R lol
That was superb, thank you. I got my first KTM, a 2012 500 EXC and EVERY TIME I ride it I have a huge grin. I've ridden a lot of bike over the last 20 years, this one just fits with me, takes anything I can throw at it.
I have the same , down to the year. Know how you feel!
i believe your gonna make other companies videos too😉
I loved this video as John Penton still lives in Amherst, Ohio and where we still have a major KTM warehouse where my family and friends have worked and I plan on working. I love that our little slice of Ohio has played such a major part in moto history. We also have the locally historical Meadowlarks motorcycle club that’s been around since the 40’s too
I’m in northeast ohio and ride orange. It just feels right doesn’t it.
Video good enough for a marketing plan bussiness presentation.All clear,all true.Keep going pal.Mamore videos for the japanese dirt bikes :)
I've got to admit in performance KTM is really a top-tier, but they've managed to keep their heritage of amazing unreliability.
I've owned 2 KTM's and those were breaking up constantly, sometimes even 3 times a month.
My friend owns KTM Duke 790 - brand new from the factory, after 2 weeks it started dripping oil from the engine - in the KTM Service they said they were not gonna do anything about it because it's typical for that bike and if they fix it it will come back in 1-2 weeks.
KTM's are also constantly breaking up in their superbikes competitions as well.
I love the designs, I love the sound of the Duke cross-plane engine, I love how SuperDuke is aggressive,
but the reliability is pissing me off.
btw. I own Yamaha now for 4 years straight - not a single issue for all those years, coincidence?
Got 3 ktm in my life, 690 SMCR 2019 (7000 km on it), 890 Duke R 2021 (12000 on it), and now a Superduke R 2022 (4800km on it), never had issues with them. Yes it is not the reliability of a japanese, but if you take care of them (let the warm up, going to the garage when you need to, etc...) you will not have problem !
Yea, just got my first KTM and from all the research i did, the reliability factor didn't come across as THAT bad, in many cases much better than other comparable bikes. Like the reliability of th LC4 vs the DRZ400 motor seems to be no contest, and having dealt with a nightmare DRZ im happy to move to something with much better power and reliability
Nice
But the 950 adventure is a sweet bike 🏍
Loving the vids my dude. Excellent work!
what do you think about the chinesse bikes?
love the videos, keep it up
Why the dis on the 950 Adventure?
you killin' it bro
Awesome vid! Thanks for the history lesson :D
anytime, appreciate you stopping by!
Very cool video. I raced a KTM 250 in the mid 80’s... currently have a KTM 950 Super Enduro. 😎
The 94 Duke could use more power? 56 hp & 127kg dry weight can kill you quickly if you're not awake.
Really great narration mate - thank you.
Go well!
The unreliable brand ever made.
Great video !!What motorcycle do you ride ?
Do you work in the film industry? Your videos are so well done !!
Todd
How long does it take you to make your videos ? Hours?
Thanks Todd! I've ridden LC640, and currently riding a Ducati 620.
I have a media degree, so I've been doing this stuff for a bit!
@@toddmphoto this one took a couple weeks, 9hrs a day but only because it was the first video and had to do a bit of research. The next coupe have been a lot faster to do.
Appreciate you checking out my channel btw, means a ton!
great video, be good to see more
Brilliant video. Funny and insightful. Great work.
Ktm…you are the R&D!
Ryan dungey and de coster was huge for there growth last 10 or so years. Before that was a euro mx bike or enduro. Penton also did lot for the bikes in the usa.
this channel should get more views.
Nice job Sir. ! 👍 From a 950SM owner
This is an absolutely wonderful documentary. Got my first machine from the masters at Mattighofen last month. Couldn't be happier. Thank you brother. ❤❤❤
Thanks for the info. Short but informative
Exceptional documentary. I can't wait to see what you do next. subscriber #41!
I appreciate this, many more to come! (:
Great video
Appreciate the vid, i learned a lot, thanks 👍
You are missing all about PENTON......The mega influence for their off road bikes. For a few years their bikes were just redecaled Pentons.
This is a really good video. Good job, i’ve enjoyed so much. Thanks!
Great video my man
KTM rules Motocross nowadays. Things truly came full circle! -NY
Thank you for making the video ! KTM has always been my favorite brand of off-road motorcycle , until recently ; Why in the Heck did they outsource to China ? China has no quality control over their products . BMW made the same mistake . Inferior quality and parts is going to bankrupt them again . They don’t even have parts for the bikes already and are selling new models . Corporate greed is a big problem in the world today .
KTM IS NOTHING WITH OUT
JOHN PENTON. THIS VIDEO
IS SO FAR OFF , U DO NOT
KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. Watch the movie the John Penton Story
It tells the complete story on
Penton and KTM Motorcycles
THANKS FROM NOR-CAL.
I know John Penton and his son Jack. John and I have consumed much coffee talking about KTM and Penton motorcycles. All of the off road bikes produced from 68 to the mid 70's were John's design. He just needed to find a company willing to build them. The mainstream brands such as Husqvarna, CZ, et al turned him down. KTM (the bicycle company) was the only company willing to build them but not without much reservation. He wasn't an importer. He was the designer and owner of the Penton brand as well as Hi Point racing products. btw Hi Point boots were actually Alpinestars. Hi Point is partly responsible for the success of that company. Also John developed his own 2 stroke oil under the Hi Point brand which eventually became Golden Spectro Oil.
This is a bold statement, but everything about KTM off road motorcycles can be traced back to John Penton. And in many ways Penton motorcycles were responsible for the Japanese manufacturers deciding that they wanted a piece of the pie since the Penton race teams were dominating all off road racing events.
John decided to sell the rights fully to KTM only after realizing he could not keep up with the production capabilities of Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha and Kawasaki. One of the requirements of the sale was that KTM would build its north American HQ right here in Amherst, Ohio, not Lorain as you stated.
I appreciate the time you put into making this video, but if you really want to title it, The Entire History of KTM Motorcycles, you should edit and re upload this video due to these glaring mistakes.
John Penton was not just a business man. He was a racer with multiple wins including several ISDE medals. He is in the AMA Motorcycle Museum Hall of Fame and so are his sons Jack and Tom.
In the mid 70s my BIL managed a bike shop with a focus on Suzuki’s portfolio. They even got a Wankel Suzuki for ride demos; in addition they sold Pentons and the whole shop raced MX or Enduro. Somehow they finagled to get a Trials bike. They were a start-up but well financed and aggressive in both marketing and sales. The Penton bikes were the best off-road bikes hands down. Out of my financial reach but those who could afford the Pentons had better have been A+ ringers or they got in over their heads quickly. It was a pro bike offered to the public.
This is maddening - John Penton. John Penton. John Penton. Read your history!! Also - Jaroslav Falta was the true 1974 250cc World Champion on CZ The Russians stole the title.
950 Adventure is awful? Praises the Superduke but shows an SMT? Must try harder…… I have a 990 Adventure. No problems. None, in 52000miles.. Service it and ride it.
You incorrectly stated that KTM was the first manufacturer to put disc brakes on a dirt bike front and rear. Not true, since ROKON in New Hampshire - USA starting in 1970, employed front and rear hydraulic disc brakes on their 340cc competition motorcycles thru 1976 when they finally ended production.
👏 bro magnificent video I bleed orange I love the KTM I have a really hard time supporting China and Japan but just an out standing video it was impeccable!!!!
Great work, man!
Did not make it clear that KTM was made originaly in Austria and was in direct competition with Puch also made in Graz Austria. Btw, another MC manufacturer to be revived but perhaps by someone more capable....
Excellent video but with one small mistake, Rokon was the first bike with disc brakes 1974.
Did I miss mentions of the 520, 525exc? The starting line of big bore enduro that became the 500excf? King of the enduro jungle? Way ahead of their time and you skipped straight over them?
8:02 that's not a superduke
7:54 that's not a 950 adventure
7:57 the 950 ADV was easily the most capable ADV bike at the time and they won multiple Dakars on the 950 rally...
At one point KTM didn't even make their own engines, they used an engine made by Sachs. And Penton was way more involved in the development of KTM off-road bikes than you state, John Penton SAVED KTM.
Love your Videos! Keep it up
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KTM would NOT be where it is if not for PENTON......his designs!!!! Sachs engines.
that's not the whole story even after the accusation by the stefan piererin in 1991 the ktm had lot of dept and was struggle due to high cost of manufacturing and reliability issues after that Bajaj Auto bought 14% of the stakes to repay its depts and allowed KTM to manufacture its bike in Bajaj manufacturing plants they also worked on the reliability issue and Bajaj gradually its stakes to 45%
bruhh its best isnt it even though yamaha MAKE PARTS FOR OTHERS CARS SINCE THEY ARE SO GOOD
Very well done!
I bought my first 6 months ago which was a 2007 model 250 sx. recently I just took delivery of my brand new 500 exc-f now owning 2 with my eyes alos on a 300 2 stroke to add to the collection.
Nice vid bro. Wish you touched on the Bajaj partnership as well, but still, very well made video.
I hope you keep making those videos. I like the blunt truth portrayed here. It reminds me of Different Spokes whom I enjoy to watch too.
Nice video mate good job. I would of added a bit more about ktm in mxgp and Tony Cairoli as he pushed ktm quite a lot in Europe and made them win numerous championships. But still amazing job
Your research into KTM is good but your editing is fucking brilliant 😂 made me laugh a good couple times 😂 gona smash that sub button 🍻
my 65 sx is a terrifying pocket rocket this tiny thing is loud enough to shake windows and goes 71 mph this thing also a baby 65 cc
Yet Suzuki is still richer with more sales, and Yamaha still holds speed AND reliability, Honda has reliability, Kim has half the speed of Yamaha and like 1/10 of the reliability of honda
Are you a product of high quality MC videos from Ryan F9?
Because you remind me of him and you are just as good!
Really like your stuff! 👍
Strange. Our entire American history, (what really happened), in the USA schools is only about 9 minutes long too. The bull crap lasts for all of grade school.
Great information, excellent quality video, and hell yes would like to see more!! ✌🏽
If you've ever ridden a ktm dirt bike you never really go back especially with the hydraulic clutch or at least that's how it is with kids that have grown up on little ktm's
I didn't take KTM seriously, and now I love this company! Awesome video. Like subscribe
not so reliable in adventure segment nowadays, love the brand and concept but they are way behind when it comes to customer service and reliability...
Nice job on this. I have owned four KTMs over the years. They are excellent kit for sure. Would love to see a deep dive into Penton someday. I will subscribe so I don't miss it!
How about how they introduced the four stroke into motocross ala the Husqvarna acquisition?
Thanks for the vid. I really enjoyed it. KTM really are the coolest bikes.
Interesting video, though you show the wrong bike when you say the super duke 😢😭
If they carry on with kymco spares in their bikes they will close down very soon