@Rasmus Malmberg Not in every scenario, actually. There's still could have been some ways to find the killer. Like in chapter one - if Leon didn't try to destroy the evidence, Kiyoko would surely found some of his red hair on the floor. And if i'm remembering correctly, Leon was actually the only one who had red hair. The case would actually be solved much faster if Leon didn't try to get rid of evidence. At least he had a solid chance to pin the crime on Makoto. But he was dumb enough to not do much at the trial, actually. If he was a bit more smarter, he would probably found out about a switcheroo of the rooms and would used Makoto's tool kit, which would made almost perfect trap. Many murders in DR are kinda like that. Half of them would be solved faster if the killer didn't do something. And the other half of the plans were made on the spot because of certain curcumstances(Like in Mahiru's, Nekomaru's or Miu's cases). The only two plans that WOULD actually work with "just leave the body and don't do anything else" plan is Kirumi's and Korekiyo's cases, both in V3. The former should have just leave the drowned body in the bathroom, while the latter should have just NOT. MADE. FREAKING. SEESAW. All the other murders in the series are either much more easely solvable if the killer don't do any cover-ups, or having special curcumstances that prevent the killer just do "staby-staby" and go away like it was nothing. You can name me ANY case aside from Kirumi's and Kiyo's, and i would tell you exactly WHY "just stabbing" wouldn't work. I'm not even kidding. If you are interested - i would love to talk about those details in this comment section.
@@dan_man3087 Just a thought... what about 2-3? There are even multiple ways of making it better. It’s not exactly as simple as V3-3’s “Just leave the accidental victim and don’t do anything else” because Ibuki was already there and could totally rat you out... but if you just kill her right then and there without all that ridiculous setup... nothing would really point to you anymore. Because the ONLY reason the cast managed to figure it out is because of the video! Even if anyone gets suspicious of you because Ibuki was supposed to be in the hospital... you could just say you were on the second floor and didn’t notice anything. There! Nobody can prove anything. So I’m curious: how do you refute that?
@Кейта_Линда Приветствую родного русскоязычного!) Частично я даже соглашусь - ближе всего к идеальному плану с такой идеей будет 2-3, но оно всё-таки не дотягивает до полного идеала, оставаясь в серой зоне. Потому что в самом кейсе столько дыр и несостыковок, что оно одновременно не может быть ни полным победителем, ни полным проигравшим: на Микан бы указывало много косвенных улик. Больше, чем на кого-либо другого. Никаких прямых доказательств... кроме одного. Сперва обсудим обстоятельства кейса: Две команды людей жили в двух разных местах, и при этом связывались через третью точку. Это значит, что убить она могла только четверых: трёх больных и самого Хаджиме. Остальные-то были заперты либо в Мотеле, либо у себя в коттеджах(Фуюхико)! Такой небольшой выбор уже подставлял Микан. Убив Ибуки, одного из пациентов, она бы сразу кинула на себя подозрения прямым способом: убийство случилось в той локации, где 24 на 7 находилась Микан. К тому же, она бы не смогла притвориться, что ничего не знает, ибо часто делает обход и осмотр. Сказать, что она спала всё это время, впервые пропустив осмотр, в ночь которого так удобно случилось убийство - уже не слишком невинно. К тому же, кто бы обнаружил тело? Микан бы либо пришлось разыгрывать очередную сцену удивления, подставляясь под "а почему ты раньше не нашла труп, делая свои обходы?", либо Микан бы пришлось обо всём докладывать самой. И не стоит забывать про то, что мотивом оказалась болезнь: за это ГГ бы явно зацепился. А это мгновенно подставляло бы Микан, потому что на время суда она была бы единственная с жаром. Если бы Микан совершила убийство в госпитале - она бы уже была под подозрением, и ей бы проверили температуру, мгновенно раскрывая. Соверши она убийство в другой локации - стали бы появляться вопросы, кто вообще смог бы утащить за собой Ибуки так легко? Ответ - опять Микан, ибо она имела наибольшее влияние. Так что если кратко: она находилась на месте преступления, не могла не заметить труп, имела влияние на жертву, сам статус больного у жертвы повышал градус подозрений, и самое главное - симтомы жара. Кто его знает - Микан наверняка бы ещё ударила скальпелем точечно в сердце. Возможно, это бы тоже могло стать новым камушком в её огород. Но даже так - именно вокруг неё было бы больше всего слепых пятен. И именно она была бы в центре всех действий. Как бы сильно мы не хейтили все 2-3, сама идея была абсолютно нормальна и хороша - Микан пыталась отвадить себя от центра происходящего, сместив место преступления и заставив кого-то другого встать на её место. При этом она убедилась, что ни у кого, кроме неё, не было бы алиби. Признаюсь, это не является чистой победой с моей стороны, однако и поражением это быть не может - СЛИШКОМ много подозрения бы было, чтобы её не проверили на температуру. А температура бы выдала её с потрохами. For all english speakers, here's a short summary: Mikan would have too much suspicion if she just stabbed Ibuki with a knife in a hospital. If any patients had died, not just Ibuki, Mikan would be the prime suspect from the start. Because of the location of the killing. Any other place of death would have worked only with Ibuki, and even with that - Mikan is the one with most authority to boss Ibuki around while she's ill. Having this much suspicious coincidense and concidering that the motive is illness - there would be probably some check for the temperature. Since Mikan is ill - she would be the only one with fever. So she was more or less doomed as a killer from the start. All other suspicions are just reason for checking the temperature.
Big thing about Celestia’s execution is that she wanted to be special, by burning at the stake she was dying in a special and unique way so she was content but then Monokuma throws a curveball by sending in the fire truck, killing her in a regular car crash which is how most people die
Currently watching this while playing Brilliant Diamond. Arin’s “vroom vroom vroom” at 17:59 were timed perfectly and actually harmonized with the last 3 notes of the healing jingle at the Pokémon center
“Don’t act so surprised” I would think in any situation where you’ve known someone for awhile then suddenly they are dead and you find out they were not who you thought they were, you’d have that reaction from Hifumi
When they say Mondo wasn't at fault for his brother's death It actually kind of was if Mondo hadn't dashed into Traffic he would have died As for Celeste's Execution That is not mercy She wanted to die like a Witch during the Salem Witch Trials that's her "Hopeful death" What Monokuma/Junko set up for her is a "Despairful Death" Just getting run over in her eyes is Dull so Monokuma RIPPED her Hope away
Celeste’s death was my absolute favorite in the whole series. The heart break she must’ve felt being killed in one of the most common and insignificant ways!
You're on point with Mondo. Mondo's whole deal was that he had an inferiority complex with his brother that he allowed to make him reckless, so reckless that his brother sacrificed his life to save him. Then, he doubled down under the burden of the lie and his new position as the gang leader. It's really freaking sad, but Mondo was dealing with genuine guilt.
@@superiorgamedude honestly nothing wrong with being pc or trying to be progressive but there is a way to be to much like those things that you ruin the entertainment or become unlikable for one reason or another.
@@Xx_SomethingQueer_xX Might've also been thanks to the walkthrough he used. Bet it's hard to find a walkthrough for the game that's completely spoiler-free.
everyone has their characters that they like and don’t like lmao and i think i can see where ur coming from but then again i feel like there isn’t much to hate or love because she was only there for a short time
@@redjaygaming9757 You'd be surprised, though. Too many folks online take huge offense, as if they think anyone who criticizes what they like must think they have bad taste.
I actively participated in it for a while. I wanted to see what other think but sadly the internet can’t be a fun place all the time and someone had to spread hate speech and ruin the debate.
@@Xx_SomethingQueer_xX but like chihiro was misgendered by arin, no matter what stance you take arin is still an idiot. Also how they spread hate speech i wanna know.
That really turned me off to their LP. A whole bunch of us tried to comment on that episode and explain Chihiro was a crossdressing boy, *not* trans, but Arin never took back his misjudgement of the game.
@@redjaygaming9757 It's just ironic that Arin took a holier-than-thou attitude toward the developer when he was the one who made the mistake. It's kinda like his misspelling "eye", but mean instead of just incorrect.
@@lara3780 heck, the game literally states that’s why they do it I’m not saying it’s not possible for them to be trans, I’m just saying it’s not transphobic to say why the game is saying they cross dress
"That seems like a really elaborate way to kill somebody" might as well be Danganronpa's slogan.
@Rasmus Malmberg Not in every scenario, actually. There's still could have been some ways to find the killer. Like in chapter one - if Leon didn't try to destroy the evidence, Kiyoko would surely found some of his red hair on the floor. And if i'm remembering correctly, Leon was actually the only one who had red hair. The case would actually be solved much faster if Leon didn't try to get rid of evidence. At least he had a solid chance to pin the crime on Makoto. But he was dumb enough to not do much at the trial, actually. If he was a bit more smarter, he would probably found out about a switcheroo of the rooms and would used Makoto's tool kit, which would made almost perfect trap.
Many murders in DR are kinda like that. Half of them would be solved faster if the killer didn't do something. And the other half of the plans were made on the spot because of certain curcumstances(Like in Mahiru's, Nekomaru's or Miu's cases). The only two plans that WOULD actually work with "just leave the body and don't do anything else" plan is Kirumi's and Korekiyo's cases, both in V3. The former should have just leave the drowned body in the bathroom, while the latter should have just NOT. MADE. FREAKING. SEESAW.
All the other murders in the series are either much more easely solvable if the killer don't do any cover-ups, or having special curcumstances that prevent the killer just do "staby-staby" and go away like it was nothing. You can name me ANY case aside from Kirumi's and Kiyo's, and i would tell you exactly WHY "just stabbing" wouldn't work. I'm not even kidding. If you are interested - i would love to talk about those details in this comment section.
@@dan_man3087
Just a thought... what about 2-3?
There are even multiple ways of making it better.
It’s not exactly as simple as V3-3’s “Just leave the accidental victim and don’t do anything else” because Ibuki was already there and could totally rat you out... but if you just kill her right then and there without all that ridiculous setup... nothing would really point to you anymore. Because the ONLY reason the cast managed to figure it out is because of the video! Even if anyone gets suspicious of you because Ibuki was supposed to be in the hospital... you could just say you were on the second floor and didn’t notice anything. There! Nobody can prove anything.
So I’m curious: how do you refute that?
@Кейта_Линда
Приветствую родного русскоязычного!)
Частично я даже соглашусь - ближе всего к идеальному плану с такой идеей будет 2-3, но оно всё-таки не дотягивает до полного идеала, оставаясь в серой зоне. Потому что в самом кейсе столько дыр и несостыковок, что оно одновременно не может быть ни полным победителем, ни полным проигравшим: на Микан бы указывало много косвенных улик. Больше, чем на кого-либо другого. Никаких прямых доказательств... кроме одного.
Сперва обсудим обстоятельства кейса: Две команды людей жили в двух разных местах, и при этом связывались через третью точку. Это значит, что убить она могла только четверых: трёх больных и самого Хаджиме. Остальные-то были заперты либо в Мотеле, либо у себя в коттеджах(Фуюхико)! Такой небольшой выбор уже подставлял Микан. Убив Ибуки, одного из пациентов, она бы сразу кинула на себя подозрения прямым способом: убийство случилось в той локации, где 24 на 7 находилась Микан. К тому же, она бы не смогла притвориться, что ничего не знает, ибо часто делает обход и осмотр. Сказать, что она спала всё это время, впервые пропустив осмотр, в ночь которого так удобно случилось убийство - уже не слишком невинно. К тому же, кто бы обнаружил тело? Микан бы либо пришлось разыгрывать очередную сцену удивления, подставляясь под "а почему ты раньше не нашла труп, делая свои обходы?", либо Микан бы пришлось обо всём докладывать самой. И не стоит забывать про то, что мотивом оказалась болезнь: за это ГГ бы явно зацепился. А это мгновенно подставляло бы Микан, потому что на время суда она была бы единственная с жаром. Если бы Микан совершила убийство в госпитале - она бы уже была под подозрением, и ей бы проверили температуру, мгновенно раскрывая. Соверши она убийство в другой локации - стали бы появляться вопросы, кто вообще смог бы утащить за собой Ибуки так легко? Ответ - опять Микан, ибо она имела наибольшее влияние.
Так что если кратко: она находилась на месте преступления, не могла не заметить труп, имела влияние на жертву, сам статус больного у жертвы повышал градус подозрений, и самое главное - симтомы жара. Кто его знает - Микан наверняка бы ещё ударила скальпелем точечно в сердце. Возможно, это бы тоже могло стать новым камушком в её огород. Но даже так - именно вокруг неё было бы больше всего слепых пятен. И именно она была бы в центре всех действий. Как бы сильно мы не хейтили все 2-3, сама идея была абсолютно нормальна и хороша - Микан пыталась отвадить себя от центра происходящего, сместив место преступления и заставив кого-то другого встать на её место. При этом она убедилась, что ни у кого, кроме неё, не было бы алиби. Признаюсь, это не является чистой победой с моей стороны, однако и поражением это быть не может - СЛИШКОМ много подозрения бы было, чтобы её не проверили на температуру. А температура бы выдала её с потрохами.
For all english speakers, here's a short summary: Mikan would have too much suspicion if she just stabbed Ibuki with a knife in a hospital. If any patients had died, not just Ibuki, Mikan would be the prime suspect from the start. Because of the location of the killing. Any other place of death would have worked only with Ibuki, and even with that - Mikan is the one with most authority to boss Ibuki around while she's ill. Having this much suspicious coincidense and concidering that the motive is illness - there would be probably some check for the temperature. Since Mikan is ill - she would be the only one with fever. So she was more or less doomed as a killer from the start. All other suspicions are just reason for checking the temperature.
@@Kayta-Linda Hope you did recieve an answer. It's right above this comment.
Big thing about Celestia’s execution is that she wanted to be special, by burning at the stake she was dying in a special and unique way so she was content but then Monokuma throws a curveball by sending in the fire truck, killing her in a regular car crash which is how most people die
I really dont understand how so many people have a hard time grasping this. It's honestly way too obvious when you think of it lol
Not gonna lie never thought of that that's an L for her
That sucks
@@crash-ry3eq I think a bunch of folks try to make sense of the outlandish scene and miss the personal nature of each execution.
Maybe he’ll survive this
Mondo after execution: 🧈
"I swear to God, if sayori is hanging from the ceiling..."
we ALL have PTSD from that experience
On the other hand, I love he he went from "No! Not like this" to "daww,com...come on dude,ooooh"
Dangygangy Spoilers:
**Wheezes in V3**
Like I’ve said Dan has the other 70% of Hiro’s predictions.
@@heyoyo10gaming4 **chuckle's in dr2 ch3**
1:27 "That seems like a really elaborate way to kill somebody."
Welcome to Dingdongbingbong, Arin.
No it's not Dingdongbingbong
The name is Diddlydangit: My Favourite Died
Dangitgrandpa
Guess twins come out of their mother at the same time
No actually they come out one at a time
Maybe if you do a C section
i don't understand what this means
@@solarprogeny6736 Traditionally, the first twin to be delivered is considered the "oldest" of the two.
@@awwrelic what's it got to do with danganronpa game grumps?
18:33 I can not stop staring at the tiny black pixel on the vroom sprite
yeah that bothers me too
What black pixel?
@@LIllianDreemer at the very bottom left of the text saying vroom there is a T I N Y black dot
"this seems like a very elaborate way to kill somebody"
Oh boy this is already gold
Currently watching this while playing Brilliant Diamond. Arin’s “vroom vroom vroom” at 17:59 were timed perfectly and actually harmonized with the last 3 notes of the healing jingle at the Pokémon center
I love the little detail that everyone gets dragged off in the animation but Junko walks
51:22 THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
9:56 “I got a feeling, that tonight’s gonna be a good night.”
*this is going to be a terrible night...*
"It seems like a really elaborate way to kill somebody." It's funny cause this is fairly tame for DR.
“Don’t act so surprised”
I would think in any situation where you’ve known someone for awhile then suddenly they are dead and you find out they were not who you thought they were, you’d have that reaction from Hifumi
When they say Mondo wasn't at fault for his brother's death
It actually kind of was if Mondo hadn't dashed into Traffic he would have died
As for Celeste's Execution
That is not mercy
She wanted to die like a Witch during the Salem Witch Trials that's her "Hopeful death"
What Monokuma/Junko set up for her is a "Despairful Death"
Just getting run over in her eyes is Dull so Monokuma RIPPED her Hope away
Celeste’s death was my absolute favorite in the whole series. The heart break she must’ve felt being killed in one of the most common and insignificant ways!
You're on point with Mondo. Mondo's whole deal was that he had an inferiority complex with his brother that he allowed to make him reckless, so reckless that his brother sacrificed his life to save him. Then, he doubled down under the burden of the lie and his new position as the gang leader. It's really freaking sad, but Mondo was dealing with genuine guilt.
@@Xx_SomethingQueer_xX IKR? From her dream of ruling over a castle full of vampire-looking boys to getting run the frick over by a truck.
I like the inclusion of the genocide jack transitions like toko dies each time lol
She dies a little more inside every time.
I just realized that Mondo says "don't get crushed". Subtle foreshadowing.
Yeah too bad they never put together who was executed in the rocket in the beginning
I actually don't know that either. Who was the first victim?
@@predatorking1017 kirigiri's dad, the original head master.
Junko killed him before starting the games while everybody was passed out
@@predatorking1017 The headmaster. Kyoko's father
Hopes peak "shoots for the stars" but falls short.
@@predatorking1017 His bones were the ones Kyoko found. Yup, the Ultimate Detective found her own dad's remains. Pretty messed up.
I like how they never realized the bones of kyokos dad were from the beginning 😂
Wait what I definitely never realized that
@@RealRaven6229 same tbh
Teenage girl gets crushed to death
"Woooow that's very satisfying!"
I can't 🤣
Dan also got super excited over deleting Monika. Sometimes, I wonder about that guy, lol!
I love how their Monokuma voice sounds like Butters from southpark
With a bit of Grubba thrown in.
Good to know the game grumps don't know how twins work.
Gotta admit it was hilarious, though.
@6:10- "Man I liked her." *Me watching this* Oh boy . . . . . .
“That seems like a really elaborate way to kill somebody”
Well get FUCKING ready bois
9:55 What happens when you fail the vibe check - you get sent to Brazil
Dan: "Maybe he'll survive this." Proceeds to watch a guy get churned into butter.
And now we wait for Danganronpa 2.
well do I have some news for you m8
@@Br4x Oh shit, I didn't see it until just now.
Please no them playing this was painful especially arin misgendering chihiro in a attempt to sound pc
@@redjaygaming9757 Yeah, I didn't even watch the full LP. Honestly, I don't even like these guys. I was just making a joke.
@@superiorgamedude honestly nothing wrong with being pc or trying to be progressive but there is a way to be to much like those things that you ruin the entertainment or become unlikable for one reason or another.
video chapters will be fixed soon! RUclips's just taking a while for them to register
Thanks for all the video chapters! It helps a lot to jump to a particular moment or execution.
“Seems like a really elaborate way to kill somebody.”
“Yeah that was mean :(“
Oh how little they knew…
Great video! ❤️
“If one’s older and one’s younger then they can’t be twins” ????dude??? Do they think twins are pulled out at the exact same time???
"Are we the guy or the bear" none?
Scary bear. Oh my god, what.
Makoto didn't see dead bodies he was just like yep there dead
51:35 Wait for iiiiiit......
No need to fret, the video is back! Now you can watch the watermarkless compilation to your hearts' content
Так забавно замечать, то насколько разная реакция на смерть разных персонажей. И я знаю, что вы не поймëте смысл данного комментария
It is very funny
RUclips translates comments
@@ScootSimp911 Yes.
хэй, я поняла! :D реально забавно
Забыла про переводчик ютуба. Хех
Just your friendly reminder that Leon did not deserve this.
He had every chance to just back off and away from Sayaka. He made the effort to kill her in cold blood.
Bullshit...
I already knew this.
He did
Umm i think he deserve it actually
Wow i loved the series but.. This is hard to watch i just realized how much arin screams
"Wait! I love him!"
LITTLE DO YOU KNOW-
1:00:00
I don’t know why I do this
What if they watched the Anime of Danganronpa?
I think Arin spoiled the series for himself that way, you can kinda tell at the end of the series cause he loses a little passion for the mystery.
@@Xx_SomethingQueer_xX Might've also been thanks to the walkthrough he used. Bet it's hard to find a walkthrough for the game that's completely spoiler-free.
YAY!!!
OH ITS MONDO BUTTER!!
Am I the only one that hated Sayaka from the beginning? I really didn't like her, she felt really obnoxious. IDK, maybe it's just me
everyone has their characters that they like and don’t like lmao and i think i can see where ur coming from but then again i feel like there isn’t much to hate or love because she was only there for a short time
I never hated Sayaka, even after the reveal during the trial, but she wasn't my favorite.
I like y’all’s song
Junko 😍
I simp so hard
Ew
@@alexread6767 you probably simp over Hina like a beta male
@@Xx_SomethingQueer_xX BIGGER ew
Really enjoyed how the guys got into her character in the end. She's fascinating.
Aw yeah epic epic
MAKOTO IS CHAT NOIR??
Dry
God, I remember why I stopped watching Game Grumps. Arins complete inability to engage with a game.
Cool
@@KingPeggy4 Obviously no disrespect towards people who enjoy the show still.
@@OperationOmegaOne obviously, even a child would realize not everyone likes the same shit they do.
@@redjaygaming9757 You'd be surprised, though. Too many folks online take huge offense, as if they think anyone who criticizes what they like must think they have bad taste.
E
Lmao y'all see the chihiro gender debate comment? Man like, they're in a killing game and they wanna start a debate 💀
I actively participated in it for a while. I wanted to see what other think but sadly the internet can’t be a fun place all the time and someone had to spread hate speech and ruin the debate.
@@Xx_SomethingQueer_xX but like chihiro was misgendered by arin, no matter what stance you take arin is still an idiot. Also how they spread hate speech i wanna know.
@@redjaygaming9757 it would be more educational to just find the thread and spectate. It’s still not over.
That really turned me off to their LP. A whole bunch of us tried to comment on that episode and explain Chihiro was a crossdressing boy, *not* trans, but Arin never took back his misjudgement of the game.
@@redjaygaming9757 It's just ironic that Arin took a holier-than-thou attitude toward the developer when he was the one who made the mistake. It's kinda like his misspelling "eye", but mean instead of just incorrect.
The game grumps fell off big time
You did
@@KingPeggy4 back at you
Kirby
@@KingPeggy4 yeah they really did feel off
Yeah many times in kirby dream course
Chihiro is trans and u can't change the truth
no he’s not, he hid his identity to prevent bullying
@@cookierunrolls3916 ok transphobe
@@lara3780 that doesn’t make them transphobic
@@lara3780 heck, the game literally states that’s why they do it
I’m not saying it’s not possible for them to be trans, I’m just saying it’s not transphobic to say why the game is saying they cross dress
@@brandommario2 ok transphobe