DoinB is the real protagonist of the anime. He has the origin story, the start, the difficult times, the ultimatum, the support character, the rise, and finally, the success. 10/10, better story than twilight.
Yeah. When I heard the Narrator saying G2 is the protag team I was like "wtf what drugs are you on, gimme some of them too." G2 is the final boss, not the protag. They were the team built to be beaten by the protag.
yea, not enough reference to the team's individual personalities. Crisp also calls himself daddy a lot... it's like the team's thing, to swoop in when someone is in trouble, so they can be daddy xD
It's a Chinese thing to do, because seniority and stuff. So if they are someone's 'daddy' the younger ones have to play respect to them, it's also just funny.
@@alveolate its less sexual and more of a seniority thing. its obvious that daddy means the same thing technically but there are cultural undertones that some may not understand that add to the meaning
The man achieved everything every gamer wants. A stable job, a great source of income, good reputation to his people, having a supportive wife such as her, and most importantly winning the worlds 2019.
@@jackieye9079 relationship goals there, your world champion husband just dedicates his own skin in the game at the character you play, cant get better than that.
Every time I see DoinB's wife cheering for him in the crowd, I get emotional. To have someone that supportive as your lifelong partner, that is just so beautiful. I hope he plays this year as well. I'd love to see FPX win another title with their crazy, unique, fast-paced style. Much love!
funny thing is, faker was the one to first start doing this, playing random picks in mid, then he started to make a personal meta in order to help the team better using tanks and supports mid. Doinb was able to do what faker couldn't do. But the whole meta of the game was much different years ago.
@@yummychips_ Froggen played random shit in mid when no one even knew faker existed and the Meta back then wasnt defined yet (NA thinking ADCs should be played Mid in S1) so even tho im a Fakerfanboii myself "Faker was the on to first start doing this" doesnt quite fit.
@@yummychips_ faker did it but with fairly meta picks at the time (at least in actual pro games). 2017, with his heavy af team, faker went galio most of the time just to give them support. the main difference was... SKT in 2017 simply didn't have the breadth of talent that FPX has. that team legit broke his back so hard... but doinb is in a class of his own, even when it comes to "supportive" mid lane picks. he doesn't go for just pure hard roam mid picks like galio/ryze/taliyah... he seems to be most comfortable with melee bruisers for some reason. if tian/crisp gets a successful gank for doinb, the enemy team is basically on a timer for a double/triple gank. the tempo makes it really difficult for any team to draft any form of "safe scaling" vs FPX, since that lane will almost 100% be abused. it is the execution of tian/crisp that fully enables doinb, unlocking the full potential of his playstyle. also, he's not even that bad of a laner. even with bruisers, he consistently keeps up in cs, usually not falling too far behind. if analysts bothered to watch some of his LPL games, they'd know he's a very competent mid laner, just with extra dark tech in his pocket.
@@yahomboi3014 diamond 2 (last season), not sure how that's relevant to what I nor the op says. A rank 1 or an iron 4 doesn't need to be good at the game to point out this bullshit. Playing your lane wrong doesn't mean you''re playing the game right. That's why all analyst complain about how he plays because it's not good.
So the thing is ls can say that. The midlaner that lost to him and the midlaner that is the talk should never talk like that. Imagine you are a rising talent and getting beat by someone. Think then calling him hes the worst midlaner in the tournament.
@@itsthekid9815 Nemesis looked so dumb after FPX won the worlds. LMAO. That is why people should be humble instead of being salty and throwing shit to the person that he lost against. He should have stayed quiet, now he looks like an idiot to me, forever.
@@Jason21237 Nemesis isn't wrong, he can play mid lane better than DoinB, but DoinB's playstyle doesn't require him to play mid well, he plays the overall game well.
@@SamuelRodriguez-cc2de and in asia you can get married at 16, 14 in some countries even, so marrying early there is pretty normal and somewhat expected
@@Techcs02 yea imagine these westerners mouthing off about "asia" as if we're one big happy demographic. india is asia too. so is the uninhabited half of russia and a bunch of -stans nobody really knows about. marriage age is purely dependent on rural vs urban and income/education levels. asia as a continent runs the entire gamut for those stats. do you really think japan has a low marriage age? they're having trouble replacing themselves! china has an enormously lopsided gender balance due to decades of one-child policy... even if they wanted a low marriage age, it simply isn't logistically possible (without some polygamy shenanigans). doinb + umi are really just a fairly unique case.
@@filipecordeiro2867 in doinb's case maybe not so much, you have to be 22 as a male to get married to China, and 20 as a female. He most likely registered married in China instead of Korea, and therefore followed the Chinese law. China had this later marriage age set up to control population growth (and mybe also to encourage higher education).
That would be me as well sadly lmao When you play LOL and Few ppl say you play like a pro or Call you Baby Bjerg and Yet this was two years ago and You still can’t reach Diamond due to permabans.... Fuck this game.
And now Titans came 2nd in the OWL Grand Finals in their 1st OWL season. If she didn't tell him to continue, Runaway would have ceased to exist and there would be no Vancouver Titans.
When the gods of korea fell down, I switched on FPX because of DoinB. In a season where meta is everything, he had the audacity to defy it and make it work. It reminded me of LoL's early days. It was inspiring.
@@danielhilton2028 Na don't mock him man. It's just that his mom dropped him on his head when he was little and he's probably missing certain parts of it "cough" his brain "cough".
@@yourmomsbejaycoach2940 well... Kind of. His mom kicked him out and he lived in the streets for years, moved to Korea with $20 and could barely survive by playing in StarCraft tournaments. He overly exaggerates mistakes that would be crucial in a perfectly played lane like autoattacks, mouse and camera control and spacing, but Doinb's enemies were making far worse mistakes, hence why he won anyways. Saying he's unintelligent for not blindly saying Doinb is perfect when he's able to pinpoint micro mistakes is kinda stupid tho.
Late to the discussion but I believe the word originally comes from the anime "Full Metal Panic!", which got popularized on the web and now just used to describe some unusual stuff hard to understand or explain. As Kyle said, "dark technology" is just a literal translation.
Sir Melody this is why I find it weird when there are news of people reporting people who does off meta but still winning. Most of it is in NA this is why their the shit region stagnant plays can’t think for themselves.
That's the point. People play off meta because it's not as predictable as other match ups, and people play meta because it's optimal and is more consistent.
They played super meta macro tho (jg/mid duo super active on the map with lots of quick skirmishes where you quickly hard commit to fights before the other team can collapse). Just with some odd picks that kind of went all in on that playstyle. Meta is more than the champs you play
Yeah, especially that "G2 is the better version of FPS" bullshit when G2 only partly won their semis because SKT played so poorly. The westerners in Worlds 2019 are so anti-FPS that made me puke. Seeing how FPS plays in the next round after group stage made me root for them against any team. If SKT did won theirs, I believe FPX will still win over SKT in the Finals because of how great they play. Fuck those casters, analysts that disrespected FPX.
The best swordsman in the world doesn't need to fear the second best swordsman in the world; no, the person for him to be afraid of is some ignorant antagonist who has never had a sword in his hand before; he doesn't do the thing he ought to do, and so the expert isn't prepared for him. - Mark Twain.
These casters just don't know what they're doing. FPX was absolutely slaying with a huge win rate and yet they're just talking nonsense about "don't know how to do this" or "made a mistake with that". They like narratives, not reality.
@@bagtea nah it's just nemesis, LS and some mega-hardcore FNC fans. I've never seen Rekkles and Bwipo be sore losers and say the same shit as Nemesis. On the other hand, it appears that G2 fans are more suitable with your sentence, they trashtalked and underestimated DWG and got their asses handed to them as a response.
@@lambwn4350 yeah except that the enemy team would have ended the game if it was not a platinum game. It WAS trolling and that's exactly why he did it in plat not challenger.
European casters hyped G2 so much, I mean it is true G2 had an explosive start, but the way the casters spoke about them you would think they already held a few world titles. I like G2, but because of every other EU tard screaming about how they are the best to ever do it gets really annoying.
@@JohnLeon203 i mean g2 hype was okay. They were the best Team atm and were close to the grand slam. Fpx simply played way better and g2 also played underwhelming (fpx overall better like doinb said )
In Doinb's stream, I saw him get stun by his opponent, use the opportunity to type the out the timers, than kills opponent when his off cool down, all in 2 seconds of play. Please name one other player than do that in LOL. And his the shot caller for his team.
DoinB seems to go agains the typical midlaner meta, but his playstyle does have it's merit: The typical midlaner snowballs in strength and becomes the spearhead for an attack, carrying the rest of the team. DoinB instead uses the fact the the midlaner is the middle lane to support everyone else and instead of being the spearhead, being the backup/support for the rest of the lanes in order to make plays throughout the board that can put the team as a whole ahead. I feel that the analysts were too focused on how mid lane carrys work, and so they concluded that he was playing bad, while it was simply off meta and still had potential
@@zumbamomshie5690 that is a pretty deceny winrate tho.... akali post rework nerf had 40% and everyone is bitchin about it, LLJustice legit high elo constantly with galio main. Panth is a counter pick and malphite.... ap malp is cancer....
@@nekorisakirisame1323 ap malp has alot of counterpicks since he relies on his R, and he only has a maximun of 80% ap output on his kit, he's just plain bad since theres alot of spellshields atm, not being salty here but galio is bad too, he only becomes good at diamond+ where his tankiness and cc combos are well known but since the majority of league is plat below, though, i can agree on the panth, old and reworked.
I wont lie when I saw them raise the trophy my eyes got a little watery. It's so sad how much they were hated and all the negative energy everyone gave FPX. I always go for the underdog and Im so glad they won
"If play19 was an anime, G2 were the protagonist". You sure? I mean, I've watched enough anime to see they were like the guys who would eventually be defeated by the underdog tho.
Having someone or people important to you support you in what you want is the best thing in life. I salute Doinb and his wife. He deserved everything he has now.
the one being a good player in a TEAM sport is like a person who eats his own bday cake while the others just watch. These guys proved team play is better than individuals posing as a team. You have to ask yourself about these so called great players: how good are they when the so-called worst midlander wins a world title with off meta picks and gimmicks and they don’t got 1?
They used G2 playstyle against g2 so yeah you re right. This Nautilus was new for even G2 and they didn t see that coming.And I as a G2 fan could cry about that g2 didn t get the grand slam but dam good game fpx.And i should thanks fpx for showing g2 that they could get stronger. At the voicecomms on g2 they laughting (at their defeat!:Edit ad this section to make myself clear)) That s why i am g2 fan.They play with 30 to 40% Fun in mind.I don t know how fpx plays...with what mindset but the bmw logo on this game goes to fpx(Better Mid Wins)gj on this.G2 will get you next time if you don t be better/creativ next time.Otherwise see something that g2 do in this season(Janna top despite being nerfed i think?) cause they tent to do the same creytiv gameplay fpx do against g2 here. Long story short:FPX won because they do the same playstyle as G2 and performed it better. GL HF on the Rift. I say what you said is right.
FPX: have a near perfect season in LPL the defending region, ranked in top 5 coming in Worlds by almost every analyst.... theScore: Nobody believed there was even the smallest fraction of a chance FPX could come close to winning Worlds....
an underdog aginst all the odds story is easy to script and good for vierwership i guess.. but it is just a month ago.. it requires comeplete ignorance of the reality
DoinB defeats any European pro in the midlane: "Man I can't believe this mid laner won against me, look at his minions and his positioning!" DoinB wins Championship. European Pros have left the chat
at the worlds finals, I didn't understand why he thanked his wife above all else, this video just proved me that she's been there the entire time and has been his number one fan, I just never paid attention. His story is really something to tell.
it was so satisfying sitting in the middle of G2 hardcore fans and I'm the only one cheering for FPX on that side of the Arena, I was actually scared for my life tbh xD but damn the satisfaction when they won worlds I went all out screaming of happiness
"He is one of the worst mid in the tournament" and then what ? This is a fkin team gameplay, u are working with your team. If u want to play solo games, then go play Fartnite.
no disrespect to the guy, but either Nemesis wants to be way smarter than he actually is, or he intentionally says stupid shit to be "the bad guy", or rather....the "nemesis". LS just historically gets distracted by the most miniscule things that end up not mattering
Thank you for saying Doinb's name right. I cringed through all of worlds as the only LPL caster's slightly accented pronunciation convinced all the English-language casters his name was "Doo-in-bee"
If it's wrong, but wins you everything, then it's not wrong. Simple and easy Wonder how much people will scream at Riot to change that so that they can keep their "old way" and force the others to adjust to them
being the second best team in the world twice in a row is still commendable especially for a western team in a game thats been dominated by asians for most of its lifetime.
@@afarensis9720 EU has been much stronger than NA for ages, and G2 have internationally been dumpstering Korea, though? Like, they keep getting slapped by China at Worlds finals, but cmon now
@@Finlandpro1 you could argue that IG was stronger than G2 in 2019. IG actually took a game off FPX, and they beat Griffin pretty easily after Griffin took first place in G2’s group. They also beat G2 twice at MSI before TL’s fluke win in a bo5. Although IG is a team full of psychopaths that feel like they’re equally capable of beating anyone or being beat by anyone. G2 also beat the team that took 1st in IG’s group though, so it’s really a bunch of what ifs. G2 definitely deserve respect for how consistent they always are, but acting like they’re undisputed second best in 2019 could be debatable.
Ive been out of Leauge of Legends for 3 months. And when i check back. WTF! Im Speachless! Bow down! Hands up! Never been a fan of FPX but it feels me so proud of them.. Great game! Great game!
honestly, those 'squishy-ap tanking montage' with aftershock annoyed me (with Ryze damage) a little However, he and his team played very well, and anyone able achieved that deserve World Champion title
What I like about the competitive scene of League is that it really evolves. No one saw this kind of gameplay coming and that threw off the meta in Worlds. Though again, because the league is constantly evolving, their method isn't working anymore. FPX sadly didn't even reach Round 2 of LPL playoffs. They won't be defending their world Title since they're not making it in Worlds.
Like I always try to tell my friends, there is always a way to break gaming metas. It may not be easy, but it is possible and that goes for literally any game. Just takes practice and extensive understanding of that game being played. Even deeper than the boring "oh, well this seemed to work.. guess this is life now" there are a lot of times where unconventional picks beat the meta just because they are hardly played, so opponents aren't fully prepared for the back pocket trump cards.
nonsense m he's really good at realising stuff about micro mistakes, but forgets that the game goes on for 30-40 minutes instead of 1-10 minutes of laning. he is so caught up with small mistakes, that he forgets its a 5 man team lol
Jin Song LS is religiously fanatic to all theoretical idea. Don’t fight when u are ahead, dead ass farming hyper carry mid etc. In many occasions he is right, tho he always forget about the human factor. He call people out from making mistake when 99% of people will make that mistake if they are in the same scenario (and also the reason why LS himself isn’t high elo). I feel like the kind of enjoyable game for LS would be literally 10 AI playing the game. Dead ass boring and game ends at BP stage cuz they r 10 AI.
@@GGWP-gm5cq it's not even about "human factor" in this case... the LPL simply has a very different paradigm (or "theory") about playing league. they talk about tempo and teamfighting 500% more than every other region (except maybe VCS). the problem isn't that LS is too theoretical - it's he's too inflexible to realise his analysis may be lacking. and that is rather fatal for someone whose job is to analyse pro play. how can an LCK stan still not understand LPL fundamentals after IG smoked them in 2018? if LS said that pre-IG, sure... give him a pass. but IG already showed that the LPL paradigm CAN WORK, and can work beautifully. if you're really into lol pro scene, do yourselves a favour and watch some LPL highlights. you will realise how far behind the curve most other regions are. p.s.: actual LCK coaches have already started reviewing LPL plays a lot more closely, but are still figuring out how to respond/integrate those ideas. having some korean LPL coaches/players back in korea is also helping somewhat; but it seems old habits die hard.
What u want is someone to cheer for you someone who will always support you in whatever you do And then you get that overpowered moment where you will win at anything
This reminds me of when I lost 2 fights in a row and was ready to quit. My wife came in clutch gave me some encouragement and I haven’t lost since. Nothing more beautiful than a wife supporting her man I love to see it 😁
"Not a lot of people thought FPX can win worlds" FPX lost only 1 game in the summer split (14-1), in one of the best regions in the world !!! They were favorites from the beginning. Analysts surrender to the G2 hype and messed up big time.
it was the first time playing at worlds for all 5 players. Jitters are expected. They were literally the least experienced team. Even some of the LMS teams and GAM had at least one player who had been to worlds before. All 5 FPX players went into groups with 0 games played on the international stage. And they became champions on their first visit. The group stage was used to play themselves into form, which athletes do too in the early rounds. They peaked when it mattered, which is playoffs. When that golden state warriors super team was assembled, their very first game was a humbling 29 point defeat. Did that make them a shit team? No, they won the championship that year.
15:51 Funny, because that's how DRX just beat T1 yesterday in Worlds finals. All odds against DRX initially, they became the first team to go from play-ins to winning worlds. I think DRX needs a documentary like this now too.
When you look at the result and look back at the group stage, I am thinking maybe group B was not a bad group at all or it is a very good group since the beginning. It's just our impression of LMS's performance as a whole in recent years and the performance of third EU seed(usually they can't get out of their group) make us think group B should be the easiest group. Both JT and SPY were very good teams, If they were in other groups, the top two seeds from other groups might choke as well, Spy also defeated SKT one game in the quarters. I believe those analysists(especially those who kept making wrong prediction youtube videos) really need to do more work later in S10 since their 'profession' predictions go wrong very often these years. I believe they need to know the teams much better, watch more vods and do a better job.
Yeah especially when most of them they also predicted fnc would win last yeah yet fnc got wiped. Two years in a row... they really should stop being biased and be more professional
@@aidenlin2817 This worlds I agree the predictions sounded a bit baised, but then again G2 were the MSI champions and beat SKT which was also considered one of the favourites and even though at worlds Korea didn't do great they had won the Rift Rivals that year, so i guess people had the impression that the LCK is stronger than the LPL. But in 2018 FNC and IG were in the same group and FNC did manage to beat them 2 our of 3 times there, so I don't think it's fair to call it bias when people assumed it can happen again in the finals. Just because they got the predictions wrong doesn't mean they have something against the other team, sometimes you can't know what will happen until teams actually play each other. I mean in 2019 MSI semis freaking TL managed to beat IG 3-1 and literally nobody predicted that either, should we say the analysts were biased then as well?
Thats why they are called prediction, and not "100% THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN, I COULD NEVER BE WRONG". They go off of stats most of the times, and when stats show that one team is better than the other is just dumb to predict the opposite. Its easy for you to critisize them but if they were right and G2 ended up winning no one would really be surprised. Sometimes upsets happen, that doesnt mean analysts are biased. Besides they are predictions, i dunno why so many people get bothered with them.
Can we all just agree who ever got the half of the bracket without one of the other big three would have won finals between fpx, g2 , and skt. The rock paper scissors scenario was real between the three.
No offense but LS seems like he talks out of his ass a lot. I'm not necessarily saying he's wrong when he talks about auto attacks or wave management, but he definitely puts way too much value on those small macro details and undervalues players that are just plain good. To call DoinB, the multi time MVP from China and arguably the best player on the number 1 seed from China (the region that had won worlds previously) as one of the worst mid laners in the tournament is laughable. Just because he doesn't play the lane as well as some players doesn't mean he doesn't play the rest of the game much better.
The FPX players stream a lot and there are video reviews of their games by the players. It is laughable for LS to believe these top players don't know these laning principles and positioning etc... Like when he pointed out Broxah was leashing the wrong way. The reality might very well have been Broxah wasn't gonna gank mid when he did the Red buff. At that point of the game they were probably discussing about short term game plan, jungle pathing etc.. or one way or another decided Elise ganking mid was not likely or good play... There is just so much dynamic information that we cannot possibly know.
The funnier part is, even all this criticism torwards Doinb "laning ability"/mechanics is dumb and plain wrong. It growed bcuz it works for his haters but it also makes his "off meta player" narrative more interesting for his newer fans. But to think a guy who can lane agnst the likes of Rookie and Knight night in and night out and even win sometimes isnt a mechanical god is laughable. Its not like he is literally spending every game 99% out of his lane. U can watch games where he doesnt roam that much and he trades perfectly fine. Sure there is a mechanical gap between him and Rookie but so is there for almost every other player in the entire world. Plus theres a part of laning phase though not necessarily mechanical related that is match up knowledge. He smurfed on Rookie game 1 of the semis on Rumble vs Syndra cuz he obviously knew the match up and Rookie didnt, it was clear. LS is very knowledgeable but he seems to take every decision as individual. Like he made fun of a game where doinb shuves the 1st wave and tries roamming top lvl 1, doesnt work comes back to lane. Who knows what kinds of communication was going between him ans Gimgoob? Its just dumb. U cant analize it like its a soloq game.
@@grezende4056 Facts man. Sometimes, he just comes off as a pseudo intellectual to me. I mean, he knows the niche things about league, but his analysis always has some bias no matter how "objective" he tries to make it. He is quick to point out how poorly someone did X if he doesn't like the player, but if someone he already has a predisposed liking for (such as Faker) does something unorthodox and "wrong", he would hastily justify their actions. So easy for him to just talk out of his ass, and people listen to it because he is/sounds knowledgeable most of the time.
@@whereswaldo1376 LS is like a politician. He can say 1000 words while not saying anything. Just bloated jargon that harps on things of little meaning to make himself sound intelligent.
TPA winning worlds was also a 'miracle'. Highly improbable things always happen to events like Worlds. And those moments being only a "one-time thing" (per moment of course) doesn't take anything away from its value and meaning. It could be just a time when they played out of their minds and had such a good time and it'll still be glorious.
A wife like that, he won at life, the worlds was just a bonus
@@alexanderhoigt5115 fell
His wife is Pogchamp
He dedicated his fpx skin to his wife. We are getting a fpx Malphite because it’s the only champ his wife knows how to play.
@@leongkailer1296 i thought you were gona say she was his rock xD
every LoL player is looking for a support like her
DoinB is the real protagonist of the anime. He has the origin story, the start, the difficult times, the ultimatum, the support character, the rise, and finally, the success.
10/10, better story than twilight.
The waifu
DoinB is the protagonist. Tian is the side character that is always better than the MC.
hes definitely the real life version of Shield Hero xD
And of course the waifu
Yeah. When I heard the Narrator saying G2 is the protag team I was like "wtf what drugs are you on, gimme some of them too."
G2 is the final boss, not the protag. They were the team built to be beaten by the protag.
They are actually funny. Tian：“They all flame me if I don't gank their lane，but overall I'm still their daddy.” Lmao.
yea, not enough reference to the team's individual personalities. Crisp also calls himself daddy a lot... it's like the team's thing, to swoop in when someone is in trouble, so they can be daddy xD
DoinB:2017 MVP 2018 MPV 2019 MVP lol
It's a Chinese thing to do, because seniority and stuff. So if they are someone's 'daddy' the younger ones have to play respect to them, it's also just funny.
@@taralin5020 uh, it's not a "chinese" thing to do. "who's your daddy" is a thing in the west as well.
@@alveolate its less sexual and more of a seniority thing. its obvious that daddy means the same thing technically but there are cultural undertones that some may not understand that add to the meaning
hearing his wife cheer for him with all shes got was some of the most wholesome shit I've seen
indeed thats why i wandted him to win worlds i mean comeone !!
She gave him that god anime nakama power-up
The man achieved everything every gamer wants. A stable job, a great source of income, good reputation to his people, having a supportive wife such as her, and most importantly winning the worlds 2019.
i just love that he made his world champion skin malphite because its his wifes favorite champion
NO WAY! That kinda explains why I didn't see a galio or a nautilus, even the rumble, his crazy pick
lol actually Malphite is the only champ his wife knows how to play
@@jackieye9079 relationship goals there, your world champion husband just dedicates his own skin in the game at the character you play, cant get better than that.
Rock solid
@@Broccolees I see what you did there smart man
Every time I see DoinB's wife cheering for him in the crowd, I get emotional. To have someone that supportive as your lifelong partner, that is just so beautiful. I hope he plays this year as well. I'd love to see FPX win another title with their crazy, unique, fast-paced style. Much love!
Same feelings man!
And he picked his World’s victory skin (Malphite) for her because it’s her main champ 😭
the are kllng rn!
umi is, without a doubt, the best girl of league of legends.
even if we never get a lol anime.
doinb in all chat "gg wife diff"
Lma9
Xd
xD
fuc im crying with that supportive wife and u make me laugh :'c
Lmaoooo goldd
Daniel Rosen’s favourite line to say is
“Name of person/team was/were OUT FOR BLOOD”
lol
The waifu buff is untouchable.
"gg wife diff" lmao
Lmao
Everyone: "You have to play mages or assassins midlane."
Doinb: *Confused cat face*
Mages and assassins? What is this heresy?
@@Monke-fj2qz mobile MOBA lingo
funny thing is, faker was the one to first start doing this, playing random picks in mid, then he started to make a personal meta in order to help the team better using tanks and supports mid. Doinb was able to do what faker couldn't do. But the whole meta of the game was much different years ago.
@@yummychips_ Froggen played random shit in mid when no one even knew faker existed and the Meta back then wasnt defined yet (NA thinking ADCs should be played Mid in S1) so even tho im a Fakerfanboii myself "Faker was the on to first start doing this" doesnt quite fit.
@@yummychips_ faker did it but with fairly meta picks at the time (at least in actual pro games). 2017, with his heavy af team, faker went galio most of the time just to give them support. the main difference was... SKT in 2017 simply didn't have the breadth of talent that FPX has. that team legit broke his back so hard...
but doinb is in a class of his own, even when it comes to "supportive" mid lane picks. he doesn't go for just pure hard roam mid picks like galio/ryze/taliyah... he seems to be most comfortable with melee bruisers for some reason. if tian/crisp gets a successful gank for doinb, the enemy team is basically on a timer for a double/triple gank. the tempo makes it really difficult for any team to draft any form of "safe scaling" vs FPX, since that lane will almost 100% be abused.
it is the execution of tian/crisp that fully enables doinb, unlocking the full potential of his playstyle. also, he's not even that bad of a laner. even with bruisers, he consistently keeps up in cs, usually not falling too far behind. if analysts bothered to watch some of his LPL games, they'd know he's a very competent mid laner, just with extra dark tech in his pocket.
“An era where we can finally throw out the idea that there’s one ideal way to play” LS on life support
If riot reworks Annie he cannot coach anymore
lmao
Hate on LS all you want, but Majority of his knowledge on league is correct.
@@Roasty420 he said you shouldnt fight when ahead
@@Altunuzraids no he says don't take risks, if you have an advantage you don't just give towers and objectives
"DoinB can't play his lane right"
Me: "He doesn't need to play the lane right, he's playing the game right"
100% this dude. This is a hill I will die on for the rest of my life hahah
Bro you speak to my soul
some of the dumbest shit i've ever heard
@@haven6455 i guess you're in iron?
@@yahomboi3014 diamond 2 (last season), not sure how that's relevant to what I nor the op says. A rank 1 or an iron 4 doesn't need to be good at the game to point out this bullshit. Playing your lane wrong doesn't mean you''re playing the game right. That's why all analyst complain about how he plays because it's not good.
imagine the embarrassment of being told that the people you are going up against are the sloppiest team, and losing to them lmaoo
Is why being humble and not underestimating your opponents is always a good thing.
So the thing is ls can say that. The midlaner that lost to him and the midlaner that is the talk should never talk like that. Imagine you are a rising talent and getting beat by someone. Think then calling him hes the worst midlaner in the tournament.
@@itsthekid9815 Nemesis looked so dumb after FPX won the worlds. LMAO. That is why people should be humble instead of being salty and throwing shit to the person that he lost against. He should have stayed quiet, now he looks like an idiot to me, forever.
@@Jason21237 Nemesis isn't wrong, he can play mid lane better than DoinB, but DoinB's playstyle doesn't require him to play mid well, he plays the overall game well.
@@xeamnis I doubt it. Stop being an EU fanboy. Nemesis is wrong, and DoinB is better both mechnically and in terms of playing the game to win.
If worlds 2019 was an anime, G2 was the protagonist
And the anime was akame ga kill...
OOF
I felt that
this is the best anime reference i've ever seen.
You had me im the first half not gonna lie good thing the amime was akame ga kill
:(
What's more impressive is the fact that he has a wife at 22yrs old… Respect
People in Asia tend to get married way younger than people in the west. Average age for marriage is like 19-24
@@SamuelRodriguez-cc2de and in asia you can get married at 16, 14 in some countries even, so marrying early there is pretty normal and somewhat expected
Filipe Cordeiro yeah Ik. I have friends who are from Vietnam and they were married at like 15 and 16. Weird ngl😂
@@Techcs02 yea imagine these westerners mouthing off about "asia" as if we're one big happy demographic. india is asia too. so is the uninhabited half of russia and a bunch of -stans nobody really knows about. marriage age is purely dependent on rural vs urban and income/education levels. asia as a continent runs the entire gamut for those stats. do you really think japan has a low marriage age? they're having trouble replacing themselves! china has an enormously lopsided gender balance due to decades of one-child policy... even if they wanted a low marriage age, it simply isn't logistically possible (without some polygamy shenanigans).
doinb + umi are really just a fairly unique case.
@@filipecordeiro2867 in doinb's case maybe not so much, you have to be 22 as a male to get married to China, and 20 as a female. He most likely registered married in China instead of Korea, and therefore followed the Chinese law. China had this later marriage age set up to control population growth (and mybe also to encourage higher education).
they remind me of myself,except for the fact I dont win
SPc gaming and no wife
THIS IS SO ME
If that me my friend would yell at at me saying "Go back to your lane noob!"
Relatable
That would be me as well sadly lmao When you play LOL and Few ppl say you play like a pro or Call you Baby Bjerg and Yet this was two years ago and You still can’t reach Diamond due to permabans.... Fuck this game.
The supportive wife makes me happy. Reminds me of Runaway and his wife Flowervin telling him one more time.
you mean runner?
Runner
she love that money for dat plastic lols
And now Titans came 2nd in the OWL Grand Finals in their 1st OWL season. If she didn't tell him to continue, Runaway would have ceased to exist and there would be no Vancouver Titans.
99% of wives worldwide are telling their men one more time. Perhaps different venues though.
When the gods of korea fell down, I switched on FPX because of DoinB.
In a season where meta is everything, he had the audacity to defy it and make it work. It reminded me of LoL's early days. It was inspiring.
I hope to see more of this, I might start watching Esports to see more of... FPX is it?
@@amateurishauthor2202 yes, it is. But I think it only did work because of their jungler.
Doinb is still Korean. 😂
@@Txpmdroflol27 oshit.
But a team that made it work was Chinese. They made the team revolve on him.
Cool. Tell me something I don't know.
Nemesis acting like sore loser in middle school still cracks me up lol , and LS trying to defend him just looks even worse
Nemesis is a whack 🤣
LS is a an annoying joke anyway
@@danielhilton2028 Na don't mock him man. It's just that his mom dropped him on his head when he was little and he's probably missing certain parts of it "cough" his brain "cough".
@@yourmomsbejaycoach2940 well... Kind of. His mom kicked him out and he lived in the streets for years, moved to Korea with $20 and could barely survive by playing in StarCraft tournaments. He overly exaggerates mistakes that would be crucial in a perfectly played lane like autoattacks, mouse and camera control and spacing, but Doinb's enemies were making far worse mistakes, hence why he won anyways. Saying he's unintelligent for not blindly saying Doinb is perfect when he's able to pinpoint micro mistakes is kinda stupid tho.
But they are right. Doinb Is no good soloq player. He is not even at worlds this year.
They call Doinb's picks "dark technology". lmao
MxSFxT Beats it makes sense in Chinese actually. It more or less translates to unusual pick.
@@shiro8751 Ahh okay, just sounds funny in english. Dark technology would generally be terminology more or less found in shows/movies I'd say.
@@smxkingalonebeats2895 "Dark technology" is the literal translation in English. Metaphorically in Chinese it means unusual or strange.
dark is invisible in a way, and it indicates something that you cannot predict
Late to the discussion but I believe the word originally comes from the anime "Full Metal Panic!", which got popularized on the web and now just used to describe some unusual stuff hard to understand or explain. As Kyle said, "dark technology" is just a literal translation.
People always underestimate and doubt people with different and rare playstyles,theyre just not used to someone being different and better than them.
Sir Melody this is why I find it weird when there are news of people reporting people who does off meta but still winning.
Most of it is in NA this is why their the shit region stagnant plays can’t think for themselves.
Yeah.... I think because they're too focused on "Official Meta & Playstyles".... While ignoring how to find their own meta & playstyles....
That's the point. People play off meta because it's not as predictable as other match ups, and people play meta because it's optimal and is more consistent.
They played super meta macro tho (jg/mid duo super active on the map with lots of quick skirmishes where you quickly hard commit to fights before the other team can collapse). Just with some odd picks that kind of went all in on that playstyle. Meta is more than the champs you play
The thing is he isnt better than other top midlaners from major regions.
The only ones that doubted FPX are western casters
Zewen Senpai yeah many eastern fans were like “FPX is the better version of g2” I cant believe the caster actually said it the other way b4 the games
and fnatic and G2
Tru
Yeah, especially that "G2 is the better version of FPS" bullshit when G2 only partly won their semis because SKT played so poorly.
The westerners in Worlds 2019 are so anti-FPS that made me puke. Seeing how FPS plays in the next round after group stage made me root for them against any team. If SKT did won theirs, I believe FPX will still win over SKT in the Finals because of how great they play.
Fuck those casters, analysts that disrespected FPX.
They're also the only people who don't know how to pronounce Doinb
The best swordsman in the world doesn't need to fear the second best swordsman in the world; no, the person for him to be afraid of is some ignorant antagonist who has never had a sword in his hand before; he doesn't do the thing he ought to do, and so the expert isn't prepared for him.
- Mark Twain.
if i don't know what i'm doing...
you neither.
Daniel Rosen has a really cool voice for these kinds of videos
yo what the heck I didn't expect to see you here dude love your japan vids
Didn't know you play League
more like anyone but the other guy who hates league yet still does these videos. id rather have this guy on all league vids.
These casters just don't know what they're doing. FPX was absolutely slaying with a huge win rate and yet they're just talking nonsense about "don't know how to do this" or "made a mistake with that". They like narratives, not reality.
this is true for any sport tbh, these "analysts" love to sensationalize things for the sake of narrative.
they're just always blinded by regional bias
their main audience are the west
@@pangpingw west are dogshit in worlds anyway so keep their hopes up they win next worlds
its funny how people think FPX won because they were better than G2. the only reason they won was G2 running it down with the draft and gameplay
I defied expectations when I beat Yugi Muto at Duelist Kingdom. No I didn’t cheat I just pushed the boundaries sort of like the New England Patriots.
Is this going to be a new "haha so extremely funny reference comment" cringe account?
@@DoMa94 why ruin his fun
I can’t be the only one who read this in Seto Kaiba’s voice?
@@DoMa94 you're just jealous that he's getting more likes than you do.
@@DoMa94 You're legit loser lmao. Only one cringe is you.
14:46 Crisp be like: I feel like I am forgetting something.........What is it........Oh yes! The trophy!
tfw you think you forgot to lock the door
Oh! Okay that was hilarious.
Like: "Where are the others going? Ooooh! Right..."
Anheng Xi 求个头像，谢谢
@@caratang6918 右键下载
稳妥 哈哈哈
"They laugh at you cuz you're different, now you laugh at them cuz they're all the same"
This is so good, I love this, I'm stealing this :D
No matter how many times I've watched this, LS and Nemesis just look like two jealous clowns...
true
Bcs they are
And year later Nemesis lost Fnatic their semifinals
@@liborsysel2234 yup fnatic players and fans are always tend to underestimate their opponents
@@bagtea nah it's just nemesis, LS and some mega-hardcore FNC fans. I've never seen Rekkles and Bwipo be sore losers and say the same shit as Nemesis. On the other hand, it appears that G2 fans are more suitable with your sentence, they trashtalked and underestimated DWG and got their asses handed to them as a response.
@@Spar7anProjec7 g2 dont underestimate their oponents, they just trashtalk
This literally feels like an anime.
*Where the MC's team is sloppy but has a lot of potentials after going through their Training Arc*
and waifu
They all broke through their limits in the tournament....they were universe 7!
pin-points how poorly he is playing the lane. *Gets 400 cs at 24 mins*
by trolling his jungler and afk farming in a platinum game... come on
@@emreeren7661 then he got full items at 24 min and 1v9 the game? it wasn't trolling
@@emreeren7661 the jungler agreed to let him farm the camps
@@lambwn4350 yeah except that the enemy team would have ended the game if it was not a platinum game. It WAS trolling and that's exactly why he did it in plat not challenger.
@@tl275 I still dont get how that turns out to make him a good laner?
Man got a great wife. Not only did he won world, he won at life. I respect that. I respect both Doinb and his wife.
"I bELieVe tHaT G2 iS ThE bEtTeR vErSiOn oF FpX"
European casters and overrating g2 name a more iconic duo
European casters hyped G2 so much, I mean it is true G2 had an explosive start, but the way the casters spoke about them you would think they already held a few world titles. I like G2, but because of every other EU tard screaming about how they are the best to ever do it gets really annoying.
So easy to say in hindsight
@@spi8480 European Team getting 3-0ed in finals by LPL teams MonkaS
@@JohnLeon203 i mean g2 hype was okay. They were the best Team atm and were close to the grand slam. Fpx simply played way better and g2 also played underwhelming (fpx overall better like doinb said )
“Positioning wrong, AUTO-ATTACKING WRONG”... well he won worlds didn’t he?
and he's LPL MVP
@@APMVIII not only once . I hate when people actually put rules on such a high level .
In Doinb's stream, I saw him get stun by his opponent, use the opportunity to type the out the timers, than kills opponent when his off cool down, all in 2 seconds of play. Please name one other player than do that in LOL. And his the shot caller for his team.
@@ricosun uhh most players on the super server can do that, literally everyone of them
@@juliantan4943 not as good as doinb clearly lol that's why he's called the super carry of the lpl. Not with such precision, timing, an as fast as him
DoinB seems to go agains the typical midlaner meta, but his playstyle does have it's merit:
The typical midlaner snowballs in strength and becomes the spearhead for an attack, carrying the rest of the team.
DoinB instead uses the fact the the midlaner is the middle lane to support everyone else and instead of being the spearhead, being the backup/support for the rest of the lanes in order to make plays throughout the board that can put the team as a whole ahead.
I feel that the analysts were too focused on how mid lane carrys work, and so they concluded that he was playing bad, while it was simply off meta and still had potential
"An era where we can finally throw out the idea that there’s one ideal way to play"
so... do we tell this to NA?
edy miguel let’s wait and see when they figure it out
Nope. They will not accept the truth.
edy miguel NA and EU still havent realised
@@SoldJesus4Crack Number of LEC games you've watched the past 1 and a half year: 0
Νικηφόρος Τσακι Μπαντούνας nearly all of them.
but your "argument" is pointless anyway, because i am right xP
*Never underestimate*
_The Element of Surprise_
The biggest example since Taipei Assassins
Or the element of tencent having a stake in your company
DUxMORTEM
Are you saying they rigged the finals. What an embarrassment.
Surprise and fear. TWO elements
*Boss music in the background*
My guy doinb giving me flash backs of s3 s4 league, galio maphite pantheon mid haha
but dood. galio, malphite and pantheon are still meta midlaners right now
Times when deathfire malphite is fucking annoying
@@nekorisakirisame1323 yeah sure with that 47-49% winrate
@@zumbamomshie5690 that is a pretty deceny winrate tho.... akali post rework nerf had 40% and everyone is bitchin about it, LLJustice legit high elo constantly with galio main. Panth is a counter pick and malphite.... ap malp is cancer....
@@nekorisakirisame1323 ap malp has alot of counterpicks since he relies on his R, and he only has a maximun of 80% ap output on his kit, he's just plain bad since theres alot of spellshields atm, not being salty here but galio is bad too, he only becomes good at diamond+ where his tankiness and cc combos are well known but since the majority of league is plat below, though, i can agree on the panth, old and reworked.
I wont lie when I saw them raise the trophy my eyes got a little watery. It's so sad how much they were hated and all the negative energy everyone gave FPX. I always go for the underdog and Im so glad they won
"If play19 was an anime, G2 were the protagonist". You sure? I mean, I've watched enough anime to see they were like the guys who would eventually be defeated by the underdog tho.
They were shiratorizawa. FPX was Karasuno
Ramen Boodle ok
Akame ga kill
EU teams are king of chokes
omg get me out of this weeb nerd comment section
How long is it gonna take Europeans to learn that fighting on two fronts NEVER works???
HAHAHAH
I mean... France didn't fighting two front's back in Napoleon era... But whenever it's against Russia, you guarantee to fell from the cold winter.
BURNNN!!!
Hitler KEKW
There is a powerful women behind Doinb, and that is why he can win the title xD
but he always say,his wife is his "brother". XD
It’s more like a way of saying close friend in mandarin
@@zyku0288 ...ok idk much in chinese....
@@qiqi364 you never said "bro" to your wife / gf? It's exactly the same in western countries 😁
@@zilliq I dived into the Japanese culture, and seem like I dived too deep I guess
"They laugh at me because I'm different.. I laugh at them because they're all the same." ~Joker
Basically OG and FPX in 2019.
STFU you edgy 12 year old.
Imagine watching Joker
And origen got flash wolves as quarters opponent, so no
@@Altunuzraids he probably meant Dota2's OG
@@erickrusselalbano9281 Yeah, but he only thinks about league l0l
Kurt Cobain, not joker.
Damn, i just cried when he said his wife supported him so much
Same here
Nemesis talking about worst mid. Yikes xD
hhahahaha, nemesis actually talks a lot but so far he really isnt that great
*His Wife*
every other Pro player just cried.
except Ambition. Ambition pulled a solid 10 too
@@celfhelp What's the name of her wife?
@@magnumbreak6972 If i heard correctly her name is Umi
Umi means sea or ocean in japanease
@@arilenn3293 its just sea, Ao is ocean
Faker lost
So nice to see a breakdown of FPX overall. As a westerner, I didn't know much about them
You mean she wanted that world's money.
Oh how I enjoyed those salty cries of European pros
NA WHY SO SILENT??? OMEGALUL
Oh how much I loved the tears of my friends who were rooting for FNC and G2, at the end I got the best laugh
@@buklborisov2460 ok weeb
@@WakeUpWest I am a weeb and Iam from Eastern Europe
@@buklborisov2460 irl cod player
He proved that not every 'meta' pick was going to be the answer. Sometimes you can think outside the box and make it work for you.
Example, SofM
@@mitcheys4423 eww
Having someone or people important to you support you in what you want is the best thing in life. I salute Doinb and his wife. He deserved everything he has now.
Jatt didn’t predict g2 to win in the finals, he did a classical Jatt Backstab and predicted a 3-1 for FPX.
Fine video, but this detail seemed odd.
LS and Nemesis still screaming till this day 😂
Nemesis got such a punchable face. That loser will never win a world tittle
LS and Nemesis KEKSSSSSS
@@samkim9251 ur talking like winning a world title makes you a good Player and if not you are not good
the one being a good player in a TEAM sport is like a person who eats his own bday cake while the others just watch. These guys proved team play is better than individuals posing as a team. You have to ask yourself about these so called great players: how good are they when the so-called worst midlander wins a world title with off meta picks and gimmicks and they don’t got 1?
@@theone-tl1hg losing hard yet trash talking with no respect, that's why.
They didnt play wrong. They taught us League doesnt have to have a format.
They used G2 playstyle against g2 so yeah you re right. This Nautilus was new for even G2 and they didn t see that coming.And I as a G2 fan could cry about that g2 didn t get the grand slam but dam good game fpx.And i should thanks fpx for showing g2 that they could get stronger.
At the voicecomms on g2 they laughting (at their defeat!:Edit ad this section to make myself clear))
That s why i am g2 fan.They play with 30 to 40% Fun in mind.I don t know how fpx plays...with what mindset but the bmw logo on this game goes to fpx(Better Mid Wins)gj on this.G2 will get you next time if you don t be better/creativ next time.Otherwise see something that g2 do in this season(Janna top despite being nerfed i think?) cause they tent to do the same creytiv gameplay fpx do against g2 here.
Long story short:FPX won because they do the same playstyle as G2 and performed it better.
GL HF on the Rift.
I say what you said is right.
"if faker doesn't have a girlfriend, I won't have a girlfriend"
DoinB: Gets carried by his wife
FPX: have a near perfect season in LPL the defending region, ranked in top 5 coming in Worlds by almost every analyst....
theScore: Nobody believed there was even the smallest fraction of a chance FPX could come close to winning Worlds....
an underdog aginst all the odds story is easy to script and good for vierwership i guess.. but it is just a month ago.. it requires comeplete ignorance of the reality
What they meant is in the worlds performance. Literally every match they play most ppl expect them to lose.
DoinB defeats any European pro in the midlane: "Man I can't believe this mid laner won against me, look at his minions and his positioning!"
DoinB wins Championship.
European Pros have left the chat
🤣🤣
at the worlds finals, I didn't understand why he thanked his wife above all else, this video just proved me that she's been there the entire time and has been his number one fan, I just never paid attention. His story is really something to tell.
Normal people: You can only play assasins and mages mid lane.
DoinB: I play tanks and supports mid lane.
Galio: *Allow me to introduce myself*
Is Galio mid viable now?
@@whydidyoutubeaddedthisfeature Thought it has always been viable.
beside his other picks galio mid always been a thing
As an Europian man I can say he and his team deserves it. They were just much better and we (Europe) need to learn from them
it was so satisfying sitting in the middle of G2 hardcore fans and I'm the only one cheering for FPX on that side of the Arena, I was actually scared for my life tbh xD but damn the satisfaction when they won worlds I went all out screaming of happiness
Imagine playing in EU and your jungler says "Why is my midlaner taking my camps?"
"He is one of the worst mid in the tournament" and then what ? This is a fkin team gameplay, u are working with your team. If u want to play solo games, then go play Fartnite.
He just seems like the worst because of his roam and support mid picks.. he just plays different..
no disrespect to the guy, but either Nemesis wants to be way smarter than he actually is, or he intentionally says stupid shit to be "the bad guy", or rather....the "nemesis".
LS just historically gets distracted by the most miniscule things that end up not mattering
Andika Pratama A mid laner that doesn’t rely on laning and just plays the map should be the celebrated player
celf help LS literally plants his head in his arse when a pro misses a cannon, forgetting that there are 5 players on said team. LOL
*Fartshite
I would like to thank all the ppl's wallet that went on a diet by betting against FPX in knockout stage.
hahahaha
Behind every godly midlaner there is a magical jungler
The best part of that match was the commentary, “Yasuo used ult, crit, 95 damage!”
Western bias in the predictions was hilarious
That was kind of interesting for them to have THAT much confidence when Asian team just straight up winning every worlds from s2.
Thank you for saying Doinb's name right. I cringed through all of worlds as the only LPL caster's slightly accented pronunciation convinced all the English-language casters his name was "Doo-in-bee"
If it's wrong, but wins you everything, then it's not wrong. Simple and easy
Wonder how much people will scream at Riot to change that so that they can keep their "old way" and force the others to adjust to them
I forgot I made this comment lmao
here after fpx went 0-4 today in groups losing twice to rogue and getting eliminated while being the one of the favourites to win it all
"kings of Europe"
got 0-3 in the worlds twice in a role
0-3*
"Kings of Europe" isn't really saying much...it's like "kings of North America"
being the second best team in the world twice in a row is still commendable especially for a western team in a game thats been dominated by asians for most of its lifetime.
@@afarensis9720 EU has been much stronger than NA for ages, and G2 have internationally been dumpstering Korea, though? Like, they keep getting slapped by China at Worlds finals, but cmon now
@@Finlandpro1 you could argue that IG was stronger than G2 in 2019. IG actually took a game off FPX, and they beat Griffin pretty easily after Griffin took first place in G2’s group. They also beat G2 twice at MSI before TL’s fluke win in a bo5. Although IG is a team full of psychopaths that feel like they’re equally capable of beating anyone or being beat by anyone. G2 also beat the team that took 1st in IG’s group though, so it’s really a bunch of what ifs.
G2 definitely deserve respect for how consistent they always are, but acting like they’re undisputed second best in 2019 could be debatable.
Now that's a wife
waifu
FPX showed the entire tournament what a vibe check feels like
Ive been out of Leauge of Legends for 3 months. And when i check back. WTF! Im Speachless! Bow down! Hands up! Never been a fan of FPX but it feels me so proud of them.. Great game! Great game!
His wife broke my heart..shes so precious.
Eh, she bangs other guys but yeah, wife diff
@@johnpauljonesisabadass8134 she bangs other guy
Man you gotta be a wizard or somthing to know that
Man, Crisp was like " Ok we won" such composure
honestly, those 'squishy-ap tanking montage' with aftershock annoyed me (with Ryze damage) a little
However, he and his team played very well, and anyone able achieved that deserve World Champion title
9:17 gotta love this moment. When Nemesis speaks shit against DoinB and gets an OMEGALUL reply.
What I like about the competitive scene of League is that it really evolves.
No one saw this kind of gameplay coming and that threw off the meta in Worlds.
Though again, because the league is constantly evolving, their method isn't working anymore.
FPX sadly didn't even reach Round 2 of LPL playoffs. They won't be defending their world Title since they're not making it in Worlds.
Like I always try to tell my friends, there is always a way to break gaming metas. It may not be easy, but it is possible and that goes for literally any game. Just takes practice and extensive understanding of that game being played. Even deeper than the boring "oh, well this seemed to work.. guess this is life now" there are a lot of times where unconventional picks beat the meta just because they are hardly played, so opponents aren't fully prepared for the back pocket trump cards.
"Poor Positioning, poor autoattacks" LS really shows his downs right there
LS is just a pathetically arrogant xD don't listen to this guy
nonsense m he's really good at realising stuff about micro mistakes, but forgets that the game goes on for 30-40 minutes instead of 1-10 minutes of laning.
he is so caught up with small mistakes, that he forgets its a 5 man team lol
Jin Song LS is religiously fanatic to all theoretical idea. Don’t fight when u are ahead, dead ass farming hyper carry mid etc. In many occasions he is right, tho he always forget about the human factor. He call people out from making mistake when 99% of people will make that mistake if they are in the same scenario (and also the reason why LS himself isn’t high elo). I feel like the kind of enjoyable game for LS would be literally 10 AI playing the game. Dead ass boring and game ends at BP stage cuz they r 10 AI.
Yeah the clip of him and Nemesis completely shitting on Doinb is just sad. I like to play it and then watch them smoke g2 3-0.
@@GGWP-gm5cq it's not even about "human factor" in this case... the LPL simply has a very different paradigm (or "theory") about playing league. they talk about tempo and teamfighting 500% more than every other region (except maybe VCS). the problem isn't that LS is too theoretical - it's he's too inflexible to realise his analysis may be lacking. and that is rather fatal for someone whose job is to analyse pro play.
how can an LCK stan still not understand LPL fundamentals after IG smoked them in 2018? if LS said that pre-IG, sure... give him a pass. but IG already showed that the LPL paradigm CAN WORK, and can work beautifully. if you're really into lol pro scene, do yourselves a favour and watch some LPL highlights. you will realise how far behind the curve most other regions are.
p.s.: actual LCK coaches have already started reviewing LPL plays a lot more closely, but are still figuring out how to respond/integrate those ideas. having some korean LPL coaches/players back in korea is also helping somewhat; but it seems old habits die hard.
Doinb already Said it
If G2 Faced them in Semis, they'll not Make it to the Grand Finals..
I'm happy that fpx is doing their own play finally some people trying new things instead sticking with the normal stuff
2019 : no one expect them to win, they win worlds
2021 : everybody put them favorites, they lose in group stage
What u want is someone to cheer for you someone who will always support you in whatever you do
And then you get that overpowered moment where you will win at anything
This reminds me of when I lost 2 fights in a row and was ready to quit. My wife came in clutch gave me some encouragement and I haven’t lost since. Nothing more beautiful than a wife supporting her man I love to see it 😁
"Not a lot of people thought FPX can win worlds"
FPX lost only 1 game in the summer split (14-1), in one of the best regions in the world !!!
They were favorites from the beginning. Analysts surrender to the G2 hype and messed up big time.
They also completely shit the bed in groups. Even against IG it was more theShy simply turning off his monitor than FPX playing awesome.
One of the best reagion ? to be fair a washed up reagion
@@willisbronze9984 A vietnamese guy calling China a washed up region OMEGALUL
@@willisbronze9984 back to back worlds winners, several of the best players of all time currently playing? Thats washed up? Ok Lmao.
it was the first time playing at worlds for all 5 players. Jitters are expected. They were literally the least experienced team. Even some of the LMS teams and GAM had at least one player who had been to worlds before. All 5 FPX players went into groups with 0 games played on the international stage. And they became champions on their first visit.
The group stage was used to play themselves into form, which athletes do too in the early rounds. They peaked when it mattered, which is playoffs.
When that golden state warriors super team was assembled, their very first game was a humbling 29 point defeat. Did that make them a shit team? No, they won the championship that year.
"I beLieVe tHat g2 iS tHe bEtTeR vErSi0n Of FPX" 1:15
They made it to worlds. Seems like the statement is true
@@youtubesucks1885 where is g2's summoner's cup??
best moment was when they almost left the stage 1 minute after lifting the cup and every crew member of the event ran to stop them XD
Here because FPX are readying their fiery wings again. Let's GO Summer 2021
15:51 Funny, because that's how DRX just beat T1 yesterday in Worlds finals. All odds against DRX initially, they became the first team to go from play-ins to winning worlds. I think DRX needs a documentary like this now too.
When you look at the result and look back at the group stage, I am thinking maybe group B was not a bad group at all or it is a very good group since the beginning. It's just our impression of LMS's performance as a whole in recent years and the performance of third EU seed(usually they can't get out of their group) make us think group B should be the easiest group. Both JT and SPY were very good teams, If they were in other groups, the top two seeds from other groups might choke as well, Spy also defeated SKT one game in the quarters. I believe those analysists(especially those who kept making wrong prediction youtube videos) really need to do more work later in S10 since their 'profession' predictions go wrong very often these years. I believe they need to know the teams much better, watch more vods and do a better job.
Yeah especially when most of them they also predicted fnc would win last yeah yet fnc got wiped. Two years in a row... they really should stop being biased and be more professional
@@aidenlin2817 This worlds I agree the predictions sounded a bit baised, but then again G2 were the MSI champions and beat SKT which was also considered one of the favourites and even though at worlds Korea didn't do great they had won the Rift Rivals that year, so i guess people had the impression that the LCK is stronger than the LPL. But in 2018 FNC and IG were in the same group and FNC did manage to beat them 2 our of 3 times there, so I don't think it's fair to call it bias when people assumed it can happen again in the finals.
Just because they got the predictions wrong doesn't mean they have something against the other team, sometimes you can't know what will happen until teams actually play each other. I mean in 2019 MSI semis freaking TL managed to beat IG 3-1 and literally nobody predicted that either, should we say the analysts were biased then as well?
Thats why they are called prediction, and not "100% THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN, I COULD NEVER BE WRONG". They go off of stats most of the times, and when stats show that one team is better than the other is just dumb to predict the opposite. Its easy for you to critisize them but if they were right and G2 ended up winning no one would really be surprised. Sometimes upsets happen, that doesnt mean analysts are biased. Besides they are predictions, i dunno why so many people get bothered with them.
My second most favorite team (SKT is first). They are just so fun to watch, their team plays, picks and all.
Nemesis: he's the worst mid.
*Loss cass 0/5 against 9/0 ryze* LOL
There's some cruel irony in this video being recommended to me after Worlds 2021....
Can we all just agree who ever got the half of the bracket without one of the other big three would have won finals between fpx, g2 , and skt. The rock paper scissors scenario was real between the three.
these are the videos why i love your channel.
No offense but LS seems like he talks out of his ass a lot. I'm not necessarily saying he's wrong when he talks about auto attacks or wave management, but he definitely puts way too much value on those small macro details and undervalues players that are just plain good. To call DoinB, the multi time MVP from China and arguably the best player on the number 1 seed from China (the region that had won worlds previously) as one of the worst mid laners in the tournament is laughable. Just because he doesn't play the lane as well as some players doesn't mean he doesn't play the rest of the game much better.
The FPX players stream a lot and there are video reviews of their games by the players.
It is laughable for LS to believe these top players don't know these laning principles and positioning etc...
Like when he pointed out Broxah was leashing the wrong way. The reality might very well have been Broxah wasn't gonna gank mid when he did the Red buff.
At that point of the game they were probably discussing about short term game plan, jungle pathing etc.. or one way or another decided Elise ganking mid was not likely or good play...
There is just so much dynamic information that we cannot possibly know.
The funnier part is, even all this criticism torwards Doinb "laning ability"/mechanics is dumb and plain wrong. It growed bcuz it works for his haters but it also makes his "off meta player" narrative more interesting for his newer fans. But to think a guy who can lane agnst the likes of Rookie and Knight night in and night out and even win sometimes isnt a mechanical god is laughable. Its not like he is literally spending every game 99% out of his lane. U can watch games where he doesnt roam that much and he trades perfectly fine.
Sure there is a mechanical gap between him and Rookie but so is there for almost every other player in the entire world. Plus theres a part of laning phase though not necessarily mechanical related that is match up knowledge. He smurfed on Rookie game 1 of the semis on Rumble vs Syndra cuz he obviously knew the match up and Rookie didnt, it was clear.
LS is very knowledgeable but he seems to take every decision as individual.
Like he made fun of a game where doinb shuves the 1st wave and tries roamming top lvl 1, doesnt work comes back to lane. Who knows what kinds of communication was going between him ans Gimgoob? Its just dumb. U cant analize it like its a soloq game.
@@grezende4056 Facts man. Sometimes, he just comes off as a pseudo intellectual to me. I mean, he knows the niche things about league, but his analysis always has some bias no matter how "objective" he tries to make it. He is quick to point out how poorly someone did X if he doesn't like the player, but if someone he already has a predisposed liking for (such as Faker) does something unorthodox and "wrong", he would hastily justify their actions. So easy for him to just talk out of his ass, and people listen to it because he is/sounds knowledgeable most of the time.
@@whereswaldo1376 LS is like a politician. He can say 1000 words while not saying anything. Just bloated jargon that harps on things of little meaning to make himself sound intelligent.
They weren't underdogs they were literally one of the overwhelming favorites coming into worlds and just played shitty early on in groups.
Underdog means ppl have low expectation for them to win.
months passed away and still watching this😊not a fan of FPX but i love how they're respond against their haters
And here we are 1 year later , FPX lose the first play-offs game and don't even make Worlds . A one-year miracle
still miracle
TPA winning worlds was also a 'miracle'.
Highly improbable things always happen to events like Worlds. And those moments being only a "one-time thing" (per moment of course) doesn't take anything away from its value and meaning. It could be just a time when they played out of their minds and had such a good time and it'll still be glorious.