thank you for addressing the price vs how much the item is actually worth. A MAJORITY of content creators just glance over the fact that said item costs an arm and a leg for the rest of us😂😂 JUST FOR A PIECE OF PLASTIC! While it costs the company a couple dollars to manufacture
@@gr1f1th okay, do you think the Elite strap only cost a few dollars to make? Rechargeable Lithium-ion batteries that are attached to your head needs to be the safest lithium ion batteries on the planet. That research is not cheap. That subsidizes the price of the actual item that will be for sale. All of that research has to be paid back or why design the product and release it? It has to be profitable for the company.
They had to start making up costs SOMEWHERE, but they left you the option to be cheap if you're nasty. So just say thank you. Because you cannot tell me it would be a hit if it started at $750 to include all the bells and whistles, just because you want them WITHOUT PAYING MORE FOR THEM doesn't mean you get them.
@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing No Lie, meta makes really awesome products. Yes they have gotten pricier, but they are definitely worth it in the long run.
I have the Quest 3 in my cart, but honestly thinking I'm gonna wait now. At the very LEAST this $500-650 headset should be comfortable to wear. The fact that every reviewer says its not, and this strap is required, is complete BS. Thank you so much for the heads up. Appreciate your integrity good sir.
This is what disgusts me about meta. All these prices are sooooo inflated. I honestly was going in to this next era of quest with the mind to get the battery strap at least. I was kinda horrified. The thing is if they halved the price I am convinced they would make more money on this stuff. Everyone is like "eff this" and looking only for a cheaper version.
100% agree. For the same price as the meta elite battery strap i got the BoboVR M2 pro + M3 upgrade kit + charger and 2 additional batteries. Which is just insane better value and usability.
What's the warranty process like? Want to know my experience with the Boba? Had issues after 3 weeks, send it in on my expense to have repaired, waited four months to receive it back.
I ordered the BOBOVR M2 Pro to M3 Pro conversion kit for $18.99. Kudos to BOBOVR for making such an upgrade possible and supporting their existing client base!
Thank you for giving it a voice. It certainly was not ranty at all - but justified. Love my q3, and love even more, that bobovr offered an upgrade kit from m2 to m3. It really elevates the experience.
Finally got to try my quest 3 for the first time today. But honestly i dont see how this thing is even useable with the stock strap. A strap upgrade is almost a non negotiable point. Its actually painful. So you're absolutely forced into upgrading. Im waiting on the Bobo strap though, id rather not reward meta for their decisions on strap choice by buying an elite.
@@robertmcmahon4549Maybe it's all about the shape of someone's head. I just know with very short hair and my head shape, the buckles on the strap dig into my skull pretty badly. However a wash cloth on the back of my head seems to take care of most of the comfort issue for now lol
@@stormchaser2oo839 yeh it definitely seems dependent on head shape.a friend had an elite strap for his quest 2 and i found that a bit uncomfortable where he found it great
It's amazing how many solid accessories have hit the market in jist a couple of months. Pricing out all of the accessories I will most likely want on X-mas, including the Kiwi Elite Headstrap for $30, JSAUX power link cable for $25, and some prescription lens inserts for $50, which is about the same I paid for extra accessories for my Reverb G2 and Index. Just gotta shop around for deals. I'd never pay for the first party Meta stuff. Depending on how the stock interface feels I may grab a vented one, probably from VRCover or AMVR.
I ended up refusing to buy a used quest 2 a few months back unless they gave it to me for about 100 bucks off. Because I already knew the amount of accesories and peripherals I would need to make the base headset useable/comfortable.
I was really thinking of buying the quest 3 but what's putting me off is the additional cost of the elite strap and battery , I already have it for the quest 2 and if I could use that one on the quest 3 I think I would actually purchase it . Maybe someone will come up with a work around to use the quest 2 strap on the 3 ? .
Yeah found it annoying. Especially as I was going to make the holes in the old one and still use it. But the clip on parts are different sizes to quest 2.
I like how you take us average consumers in to account! Many of these RUclipsrs are a bunch of rich ass kids or just rich 30 years olds who dont even understand the value of things.. or because they are so rich dont understand that 130 for a head strap is completely insane! But i geus thats what happens when you get so rich that you never have to look at prices anymore.. glad to see there are still some down to earth content creators! I really respect that!
When my original elite strap snapped I didn’t even bother with the free replacement. I can’t wait until bobo gets their production/sales in gear and I can actually buy the m3. I love it for my quest 2. The only thing it is bad for is sitting back in a gaming chair and watching movies resting your head. In which case a flat strap works better in that one type of use.
You nailed it, Meta don’t understand that they need a good user experience to generate word of mouth recommendations to generate more sales. Other than the improved lens my experience with the Quest 3 has been really bad and I’m still using my Quest 2 until the 3rd party head straps and facial interfaces are available. I can’t wear the Quest 3 with stock strap for an hour without having to take it off. The setup was frustrating, I selected QR code for wifi setup and it didn’t work, it still made me enter the wifi password manually. When I enabled the Airlink it made me confirm a code on the PC and by the time I ran up/down 2 flights of stairs it timed out and I had to do it again. I’ve been doing more swearing than game play. The light leak through the bottom of the headset is more than annoying. I threw away money buying the over priced accessories for the Quest 2, that later broke and died, so I’m not going to do it again. There’s no Quest 3 exclusive content yet so there’s no way I’d recommend to family or friends to buy this thing right now and if I do in the future I’ll have to explain to them the real price for a usable configuration. I fear this will be a market failure.
I am just a Bobo fan. I got burned by the elite with Q2 and ironically got my replacement after it broke the same day I got my M2 Pro.😅 These days, I've got the Q3 with the stock strap until Oct 27th when my Bobo Retro Kit comes in! 😬 My head is ready for comfort! 😢👊🏻🍺
I feel like at the increased price that the elite strap sould be standard its a extra 129£ in the uk which is a bit of the kick in the nuts in my opinion particularly since the battery life has not improved
I agree. They advertise the £479 price point for the Quest but 128GB storage is going to be inadequate for most people so really it's £619, The supplied cloth strap is HORRIBLE, worse than the Quest 2's so that's £69.99 for the elite strap. Plus I am short sighted so it's either £39.99 for the spacer or £50+ for prescription lens adaptors. That's circa £750 before buying a single game.
It’s funny that the hand straps are $55, but it’s essential, and they could have included it in the actual box. The elite strap is also essential because the base head strap is terrible. But $100 is crazy, and $180 for the battery version. I’m talking CAD. You get the 512mb model, hand straps, elite head battery strap and charging dock, you have now spent $1400 for all.
agree. for quest 2 I got the elite battery strap and it came with the hard case. Now with quest 3 the same price gets me *just* the battery strap so now I have no case to keep it dust free
Um yeah I’ve spent about $900 on quest 3 for the 512gb with warranty and elite strap. And now I realize I pretty much need those hand straps too. Love quest 3 but Meta MUST make the next quest USABLE out of the box because quest 2 and 3 are NOT.
Thanks for the real world take on this, as others have said most reviews are just saying how great they are not whether they are worth the money. Bravo for taking this on head on and looking at it from the 'man in the street' point of view.
I'll say it for your UK viewer's. The accessories are complete rip-off. It's gouging your customer's at it's worst. I'll wait for quality third party accessories. Waiting on Bobo M3, case and wireless charging dock, also looking for a more comfortable face interface. The default one chafes my face. 😊
Never having owned a quest, I struggle to understand how people defend this type of hardware. Sure quality is better for the optics, but they can't even make it comfortable? I get accessories are the norm now, like a better or bigger battery. Hell, I'd buy another set of psvr 2 controllers if they sold them separately even though I get roughly 8 hours on them; which most times is plenty. But that is a convenience option I want vs a comfort option. Many folks know of the quest since it's so mainstream but when friends and family ask if they should get it, I say sure. BUT.... you'll need many accessories to make it tolerable, which of course scares them away from getting it. Hey I didn't lose them a sale, they lost themselves a sale. But VR is the best it's ever been currently. I'm most excited for RE4 in VR
Honestly, all these things should be included and come with the quest itself it's bullshit they sell an incomplete product and sell you the rest. No big tech company sells a complete package anymore they nickel and dime the shit out of you it's like they sell you a cheeseburger but if you want lettuce cheese ketchup mustard or anything other than the burger and bun you gotta pay extra. So, in reality, the quest isn't $500 its more like $800
They even mention on the website that the new elite straps are more durable based on the learnings from past straps. I've also seen some comparisons and the new straps are thicker than the previous ones for Quest 2. I think these new ones will be fine.
Yeahhhh the elite strap is spendy and likely not worth it, but having it day 1 and not risking any of the alibaba etc resellers until they get tested, it was worth it. Got the hand straps too which are great. Yes a bit more expensive but nicely integrated into the controller and feeling like a real product, rather than a cheap band on solution like the VR Cover/Kiwi/whatever I have for the Q2 or Pico 4. And the prescription lenses that haven't arrived yet.
I always figured it was one of those "we'll sell you the razor handle cheap, so we can sell you the blades for a lot" type of scenario. I can excuse the crappy head strap on the Q2: it was a $300 wireless miracle do it all headset that they were already selling at a loss. They had to save money somewhere. So they wanted to make money back on the accessories. Not only was the original elite strap expensive, it was also built wrong. The first couple of production runs were made using the wrong polymer and just about all of them broke during normal use, so they can't argue that OEM accessories are better quality. If they are going to charge movie theater food prices for their accessories then I'm going to just keep buying third party accessories that are priced fairly and are just as good in terms of quality.
you really undersold the bobo strap. The major issue with quest headsets is the weight is held by crushing the headset to your face. With the bobo halo part the weight is completely off your face to the degree you can remove the interface plate and float the headset close to your eyes giving you a wider fov
I got a headstrap on amazon that came with a protector for the front of the quest and a silicon face pad for $50 then also bought a battery pack to strap to the top for $50 Kuejct was the strap and kiwi style was that battery. no complaints so far
1:48 I agree for how good it is it still has alto od optional left... Like an easy one being free the hands! Like allow it so it can track as many hands as it can see and sperate them from the controllers... Also make it so it shows up to PCVR games as right now it does "work" as you can see the meta menu but for some reason even with OpenXR it won't just be a controller.
Great video, and I totally agree! I think the coloured headstraps should have been a hard plastic like elite or more like the Quest 1 headstrap which in my opinion is still the best default strap. I bet it cost them like £5-£10 to make those straps too 😅 £20 I agree is reasonable. That said, do you have any info on BoboVR V3? I asked them via X and haven't heard back from them. I think the Q3 should have shipped with the elite strap (no battery) as standard.
if you buy the accessories to put it as close to being on par with the PSVR2 it’s like $200 some cheaper obviously it has a better software library and is portable
Hello Benjo! I was wondering about how to best evaluate the Q3's performance over the Q2... I tought about the game that, to my knowledge, struggled the most on Q2: GRID LEGENDS. I know you were not a fan... However, since your coverage, the game has been updated with graphics settings and.... MOTION CONTROLS!!!! I'd love to see you revisit this game on Q3 and see if it benefits from the new hardware and hear what you think of the new control scheme... Cheers!
What no "meta paid" content creator will do is: Find the settings in terms of resolution at a fixed refresh rate where Grid Legends runs without framedrops on the same track on both Q2 and Q3. Basically use this as a benchmark to compare performance. This is what a Quest2/3 owner said to me. After this comment he obviously felt I was attacking Meta and changed his numbers and refused to talk to me. >> 125% res scale and 72hz, better than Quest 2 at 110% res and 60hz Do the math, that suggests in REAL games Quest 3 is only 36% faster than Quest 2. Meta has some explaining to do !!! 183% res scale @ 72hz would be possible if Quest 3 was really twice the performance of Quest 2.
@@decadent. Not exactly, since the base resolution of both HMDs is different and the res scale percentage is based on that res. Furthermore, the Q3 cpu is only about 33% faster on average. Only the gpu is twice as powerful, so it depends on whether the game is somehow cpu limited... I do miss technically detailed reviews for the Quest platform in general...
@@JeanRousseau-u7s As far as I can tell the 33% CPU improvement is relative to the original clocks of the Q2. That would mean the CPU performance of Q3 is almost the same as the current Q2. You are correct about the res being relative to different base resolutions. Assuming Q3 is 30% higher that would make the Quest 3 77% faster than Quest 2.
I grabbed a DAS, since Amazon is clearancing them out for $25, and it's currently on the Quest 3 the old fashiond way: velcro and strap ties. I was just going to buy the adapters to use my M2, but Amazon and BoBoVR aren't playing nice with each other, because prime day got in the way of stocking the new items.
Base version in Canada is $649 and that's just too much to drop on a headset right now for me. I hope next year, there will be some more affordable accessories and newer games that will make that purchase more enticing. I do really still want to experience Boneworks and Bonelabs though.
Ended up forking out for the elite strap and battery. Feels like you need it or be massively uncomfortable … would’ve preferred a bobo but none are available and I couldn’t wait too long, the basic strap is god awful
I 3D Printed some headstrap Adapters to retrofit a Q2 comfort strap to my Quest 3- Nice little relaxing video just went up on my channel. Cheers, mates!!😊
Appreciate you speaking up about the overpriced accessories. And the strap discomfort issue in particular. I wear (fairly big) glasses. I’m waiting on the arrival of prescription lenses (another £75 with delivery), in the meantime I can only play Quest 3 for about 15-20 minutes before I get severe headache-like pain across my forehead. I wasn’t expecting the stock strap to be particularly good, but I didn’t expect it to put me off using the device altogether. Worth mentioning I’ve spent many long hours in my Quest 2 (both stock and later Bobo strap). Loving the Quest 3 in every other respect, but no way I’ll buy an Elite strap at the current price. If the new lenses alone don’t fix my headache issue, I’ll wait for an affordable third party strap option. Keep up the fantastic work 👍🏻
Completely agree with the points you made here. It is very ridiculous especially with the quality issues they had with the Q2 accessories. The pricing of these things that should be included as they are essential is definitely going to turn away a lot of new consumers
Waiting on BoboVR to get in stock. Had to buy a different face cover, as the whole unit is so uncomfortable. It gives me a headache if I tighten it as much as I have to, to prevent it from moving around. That and the 2 hour battery life is a complete joke. The headset is incredible, but $60 CAD just for hand straps (which I need as well) is just ridiculous. Hopefully BoboVr's m3 will be in stock this week. It sucks waiting.
3:40 I'm the gffew they think it's confey and glad it came in the box but man is the support not there like no matter how you tighten it it's will still let the headset move when you move your head fast... However while I belive the majority of people will find it fine like the switch's confort which means if the headset is sold at cost or a loss leader it was a good choice for a load of reason like self space at retail and shipped and stuff like that... But they could has had the stock strap as the confort strap and raise the price $10-$20 of the heasdset to add a battery strap like the Bobo m3 which I got for $40 it would have been better and they should have thrown in the aticve grip straps to for $10 more and a less rough interface in a color of your choosing of $5 more... Which would make the headset $560 starting which would make it the most expensive console on sell but still a good value I think maybe even better... RThough the $500 starting price point is really good and I spent $700 on my quest 3 set up but then again I just bought the Meta active straps and 3rd partied the rest because the active straps are really nice though expinstive but tehrest Meta could not beat on price or funtion..
Yet these insane prices aren't deterring many buyers. Almost everything was out of stock a day in at my local retailers. In general they took the fair value mutiplied it by 2 and called that the price. Unfortunately I am sucker, and won't be deterred by costs when I want a thing. So I have the active straps for the controllers, the elite strap without battery, and the carry case. [I have a monstrous external battery bank that can chill in a pocket if I need more than 2 hours of battery. But this is all nothing new, Quest 2 had the same priced accessories. It's all a bit much, but it's a luxury purchase, so I get it, I don't like it being so much, but it's pure luxury.
The IPhone is still useable for everyone without a case, its seems that for some, including me, the Q3 is almost unusable and not fit for purpose with that strap. So for me its a con especially the £150 for 380gb of extra HD memory.
Thank you! I used to love and support Quest, and didn’t mind over-paying for accessories (& buying games I never played). But my elite battery strap broke quickly, it sounded like they were willing to refund it, but then rescinded the offer & would only send another defective elite strap (with no additional warranty). So now I don’t buy anything from them except the new model of the Quest, and exclusive games I really want. They don’t stand by their products and they don’t care about their customers. I wish I didn’t have to support them at all but the tech is still impressive. The user experience is also worse since they went to Meta. I spent about an hour just trying to get the quest 3 connected to my account. There was no option to connect the new model in the phone app, even though itvwas up-to-date. Just Q2 and Pro. I’m guessing they mostly want people to login through Facebook, probably forgot they had a Phone app to support 🤦🏻♂️
I got a halo type strap on Amazon day 1 for $20. Just checked and it's $35 now, but it is better than my Quest 2 Elite strap was. Got a set of silicon controller covers with straps for $16. I don't buy anything "official" because you are right, they are horribly overpriced.
They do it because it makes sense from a business standpoint they know 3rd parties will flood the market with cheap prices soon and there is always people who are willing to pay extra just for the official brand name. But business standpoint and consumer standpoint usually don't align from our perspective elite strap should be what quest 3 already comes in the box with considering its 200 more than quest 2.
I just ordered the Quest 3 and received it yesterday, bought the Elite strap with battery with it, getting that in a couple of days, not setting up the Quest 3 yet until I get the Elite Strap with battery for it, thinking about buying the charging dock for the Quest 3, I would rather have something to charge the headset a lot quicker than using the standard charging cable which takes a lot longer to do, I won’t even bother with the default strap that the Quest 3 comes with, like what did with the Quest 2 also
The fact it comes with 0 form of lens protection is my biggest gripe, I've ordered some but it bothers me I already have some very light smudging from my eyeballs/breathing? (I'm treating it like a newborn baby) and have to simply stress about the lenses until my protectors arrive. Not even a $5 lens cover for sun/dust is very disappointing.
@@tobiasmyers3505 appreciate the tip, spose they (kinda) give something, still think giving something proper worth 5 bucks isn't a big ask, main issue is the lack of protectors for when it's on my face
Meta should want you to want to return to vr not feel like vr is about pain and suffering. Some people will just put the headset down and just say"screw it it's too painful." 🤦♂️
So if the elite strap is really good as you said, why are you using the boboVR M3? 😂 that elite strap is worthless. I would pay just £10 and keep it as a spare.
Of course meta’s accessories are overpriced! Here are better quality accessories from established vendors: VIVE deluxe audio strap w/ built in headphones ($100) Studioform creative rear battery strap ($15) AMVR snap on controller straps ($25) AMVR vented face plate ($20) VR Cover face cushion ($25)
Gotta wait for Black Friday, I don't expect any price drops but a Bundles options. Also... I'm keeping myself away from the headset, because I don't want 512GB and don't want 128GB neither. Gotta wait for that 256GB drop in soon, I'm sure they'll do it.
If you dont know, i can tell you exactly why it is. So i have been a shop manager for years. Things, have changed. So basically you dont earn anything on the main product. Due the pricing of competition. So this is the only way they will earn anything. Both Microsoft and Apple, sell a product to break even, or a total loss now days. So the stores, who has the products, needs to sell accessories to earn money. So accessories, can cost 3 dollars to make, but sells for 35 dollar in the shop. I was sitting on the "cost" price for most of the products up in time. Why you think they want you to buy all the stuff when you buy a tablet, phone or computer? Or else its a loss on the sale. We where selling Ipads that was 100 dollar loss to the shop for each Ipad sold. So it was important for the shop to earn back money on accessories. The Meta quest, has stuff in there that costs more then the current price tag. Just look at phones with same specs. Then it might spark light bulb for you. Then all the sensors, cameras, lenses etc. I belive the cost of the Quest 3 is closer to a 800-1000 dollar to make. They have cut down of a few things, to make it more affordable. Like the straps. Why you think we have elite straps with battery etc? If they did go out to make the best product they can.. They would never sell with those shitty straps that came with the headset. Also they know that its a need for it. Some games that i played, was only playable for a bit over 1 hour. That is an issue. They made an issue to sell a product to earn back the money they lost. Also its more easy to buy cheaper headset. Then notice something you need, like battery and comfort. Its easy to just add a 170 dollar later on. Then you forget what the total price is in the end of the total experience of the product. Then you spent 170 dollar more there.. then you need games... 3-4 games 20 dollar each.. it adds up in the end. Then they have earned money on the Quest 3 in the end. maby 5-10% more then the cost of producing. The bigger problem is when it get to Europe. We need to pay much more for everything. Headset was over 300 dollar more, the games are 4 dollar more. The overpriced accessories 180 dollar for elite strap with battery, 170dollar for the docking.. 100 dollar for the case, so you can carry it around. So we pay 500-600 dollar more then in the states in total of that package Europe starts to react negative to the prices and the total cost. If I want to buy a GTX 4090. I pay 500 dollar more, then the people in the USA. Then it starts to get really expensive and an issue
I literally paid $17 US dollars (not social medicine built in - I pay 💰 that in my paycheck) for the pro head strap on Amazon! I want the charge dock but not for $130! No Thanks!
Just got the Meta 3 and waiting for elite strap to arrive as the stock one squeezes my head, then i get a headache. I was using original box to pack away, but now looking for a storage solution. The case is so disgustingly priced! Any decent recommendations?
I have never purchased a single 'extra item' from Meta for any of the three Oculus units I have owned. Third-party cheaper and often better accessories become available to purchase within 1-2 days after the units release. We do not fund greed, if we can help it.
I agree with your thoughts and would even price most things a bit cheaper to be honest. While it is likely they lose money for every headset sold (like the Quest 2) and they have to make some of it back, the price for 1st party accessories is just abusive for what they offer and it's interesting they don't even provide a discount for getting the headset with an accesory.
No, they are not losing money on this one at all. After doing a teardown the full value of the headset in parts is about $270.86. I reviewed their costs with labor and shipping. They are gaining about $200 with each headset, more with the 500GB model. Now if everyone starts returning them, then yes, they will lose a ton of money! The accessories are low quality, uncomfortable, and overpriced.
You need to add a battery talk to this. You're promoting the bobo but you need to say q3 needs those extra batteries if you're playing pass through for hours.
I will say, I like the fact that the stock strap allows you to lay down while wearing the headset. It's unfortunate that no good alternatives do that well.
Just wondering, are you planning to do a review of Genotype? It came out a few days ago and I found it a little curious that none of the bigger VR YT channels chose to do a review on this one. Looks very good.
I have the 512 gb quest 3 and I bought the elite battery strap as I had the one for quest 2 and love them both never had any issues with breaking. I also picked up the hard shell case as I do go places with mine frequently. There is a known issue in the community I am experiencing with the elite battery strap for quest 3 that we are speculating is a software/firmware issue that can be patched with an update hopefully but what is happening is the headset does not recognize the battery strap is plugged in and will not take a charge as a result, at least you cant tell it is. I was able to unplug mine from the headset and charge the headset and battery strap separately and then plugged it back in, still wasnt recognized after powering off several times, however doing an actual restart of the headset was a success and everything is charging as normal and it is recognized by the headset again. Hopefully its fixed soon.
No need to insult people because they bought something, he asked people to put in the comments if and what they bought but not for other people to criticize and insult them. I hope you enjoy the BOBO strap. P.S. I had the 128GB Quest 2 and had it beyond filled up with games so I knew 128 for Quest 3 was no good, 512 was mandatory for me.
You have an Apple watch and an Apple iPhone and you reckon Meta are overcharging? Apple will reset the bar when they release their VR. Companies for years have tried to make up profit losses on they main hardware with the accessories, nothing new here.
I agree, Meta accessories are wildly inaccurate with price>worth. I know that all official accessories be it Meta, Sony or Apple are this way because the margin is high on them and they in turn will say we do this to make the money we lost on the hardware and at times this could be true, Meta's Quest 2 price at launch is evidence of this. I have purchased lenses from Widmo and grips from AMVR. I am still waiting for the M3 Pro to be available as I have 2 batteries and the dock for the M2 and I am guessing the M3 will come with a battery, their site says October, is coming soon, and Amazon does not have any listings for it.
You nailed it. As a Quest Pro user who bought a Quest 3 it took me 3 days to return the 3. Te default strap is an absolute joke. There are ski goggles INFINITELY more comfortable than these things. That and the battery life is laughable. 2 hours? I don't own a single piece of tech that doesn't get at least 3 1/2 to 4 hours of battery (including Quest Pro) So $580 for the headset, $130 for the strap with battery... You're getting up to Quest Pro prices and still only have essentially better passthrough (not THAT much better) and better GPU. You can still play and will be able to play allllll the same games, with better tracking, audio comfort etc on the Pro vs the 3. For the Q3, Elite battery strap, Docking station you're spending $820 ish bucks.... Quest Pro gives you so much more, better battery life better audio better comfort dock included better tracking for what? $150 ish more? Don't get me wrong Quest 3 looks great the graphics upgrade is nice. But guess what, I can boost the Quest Pro's visuals using 3rd party APK's like Quest Games Optimizer. I may get slightly lower FPS but I can get similar results.
not only expensive but I cant find any lens protectors. I dont want my lenses to get scratched, I always put a screen protector on everything just to be safe. But nobody is making freaken lens screen protectors for the quest 3!
I hate the stock one. My Quest 2 Elite Strap broke in under 2 weeks of having it. So I will not be buying a quest 3 version. I will wait impatiently for the Bobovr M3.
i loved the blue headstrap and really wanted one when i pe ordered the headset but when i saw it was £50 it was a hell no. if it was a replacement for the standard one when ordering and free it would been ok, as for the rest of it its just too high priced. the charging dock would be great but out of my price range. i'll be getting a bobovr M1 pro headstrap when they bring it out as the halo m3 dosent feel nice on my head
thank you for addressing the price vs how much the item is actually worth. A MAJORITY of content creators just glance over the fact that said item costs an arm and a leg for the rest of us😂😂 JUST FOR A PIECE OF PLASTIC! While it costs the company a couple dollars to manufacture
Do you really think the Meta Quest 3 only cost a few dollars to make?
Pretty obvious he's talking about the accessories.
@@gr1f1th okay, do you think the Elite strap only cost a few dollars to make? Rechargeable Lithium-ion batteries that are attached to your head needs to be the safest lithium ion batteries on the planet. That research is not cheap. That subsidizes the price of the actual item that will be for sale. All of that research has to be paid back or why design the product and release it? It has to be profitable for the company.
They had to start making up costs SOMEWHERE, but they left you the option to be cheap if you're nasty.
So just say thank you. Because you cannot tell me it would be a hit if it started at $750 to include all the bells and whistles, just because you want them WITHOUT PAYING MORE FOR THEM doesn't mean you get them.
@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing No Lie, meta makes really awesome products. Yes they have gotten pricier, but they are definitely worth it in the long run.
I have the Quest 3 in my cart, but honestly thinking I'm gonna wait now. At the very LEAST this $500-650 headset should be comfortable to wear. The fact that every reviewer says its not, and this strap is required, is complete BS.
Thank you so much for the heads up. Appreciate your integrity good sir.
This is what disgusts me about meta. All these prices are sooooo inflated. I honestly was going in to this next era of quest with the mind to get the battery strap at least. I was kinda horrified.
The thing is if they halved the price I am convinced they would make more money on this stuff. Everyone is like "eff this" and looking only for a cheaper version.
After market accessories are better and cheaper anyway.
100% agree. For the same price as the meta elite battery strap i got the BoboVR M2 pro + M3 upgrade kit + charger and 2 additional batteries. Which is just insane better value and usability.
Where did you buy the m3 upgrade?
@@marcsmith3739 Amazon Germany had it in stock, but sold out quickly.
What's the warranty process like? Want to know my experience with the Boba? Had issues after 3 weeks, send it in on my expense to have repaired, waited four months to receive it back.
Thanks dude! I love how you've ironically brought the price points back into reality. Excellent insights
I ordered the BOBOVR M2 Pro to M3 Pro conversion kit for $18.99. Kudos to BOBOVR for making such an upgrade possible and supporting their existing client base!
Thank you for giving it a voice. It certainly was not ranty at all - but justified. Love my q3, and love even more, that bobovr offered an upgrade kit from m2 to m3. It really elevates the experience.
Finally got to try my quest 3 for the first time today. But honestly i dont see how this thing is even useable with the stock strap. A strap upgrade is almost a non negotiable point. Its actually painful. So you're absolutely forced into upgrading. Im waiting on the Bobo strap though, id rather not reward meta for their decisions on strap choice by buying an elite.
I find the stock strap really comfortable,the quest 2 stock strap was horrible for me
@@robertmcmahon4549Maybe it's all about the shape of someone's head. I just know with very short hair and my head shape, the buckles on the strap dig into my skull pretty badly. However a wash cloth on the back of my head seems to take care of most of the comfort issue for now lol
@@stormchaser2oo839 yeh it definitely seems dependent on head shape.a friend had an elite strap for his quest 2 and i found that a bit uncomfortable where he found it great
I just ordered a 512 quest 3 👍🍺 I wanted the elite with battery strap but it’s too expensive.
You will like it ❤
Just wait for a 3rd party one. There will plenty for a good price
Don't forget that American customers have to add tax, so they are paying about the same as the UK in the end.
It's amazing how many solid accessories have hit the market in jist a couple of months. Pricing out all of the accessories I will most likely want on X-mas, including the Kiwi Elite Headstrap for $30, JSAUX power link cable for $25, and some prescription lens inserts for $50, which is about the same I paid for extra accessories for my Reverb G2 and Index. Just gotta shop around for deals. I'd never pay for the first party Meta stuff. Depending on how the stock interface feels I may grab a vented one, probably from VRCover or AMVR.
Yeah the Quest3 official accessory prices are beyond nuts. I'll slog with the default strap till Bobo restock the M3 retrofit kit in the UK.
Agreed. Somehow it feels as if they don't want VR/AR to become a mass market.
I ended up refusing to buy a used quest 2 a few months back unless they gave it to me for about 100 bucks off. Because I already knew the amount of accesories and peripherals I would need to make the base headset useable/comfortable.
I won't be paying $40 for a couple of hand straps. That's nuts.
I was really thinking of buying the quest 3 but what's putting me off is the additional cost of the elite strap and battery , I already have it for the quest 2 and if I could use that one on the quest 3 I think I would actually purchase it .
Maybe someone will come up with a work around to use the quest 2 strap on the 3 ? .
Yeah found it annoying. Especially as I was going to make the holes in the old one and still use it. But the clip on parts are different sizes to quest 2.
I agree,too expensive,but man the elite strap with battery improves the experience immensely
No way! I’ve been following you @DirtyTesla since 2018, and you like VR too?!
First night the head strap did give me a headache. But I got used to it now. Same when I got my Quest 2.
I like how you take us average consumers in to account! Many of these RUclipsrs are a bunch of rich ass kids or just rich 30 years olds who dont even understand the value of things.. or because they are so rich dont understand that 130 for a head strap is completely insane! But i geus thats what happens when you get so rich that you never have to look at prices anymore.. glad to see there are still some down to earth content creators! I really respect that!
When my original elite strap snapped I didn’t even bother with the free replacement. I can’t wait until bobo gets their production/sales in gear and I can actually buy the m3. I love it for my quest 2. The only thing it is bad for is sitting back in a gaming chair and watching movies resting your head. In which case a flat strap works better in that one type of use.
You nailed it, Meta don’t understand that they need a good user experience to generate word of mouth recommendations to generate more sales. Other than the improved lens my experience with the Quest 3 has been really bad and I’m still using my Quest 2 until the 3rd party head straps and facial interfaces are available. I can’t wear the Quest 3 with stock strap for an hour without having to take it off. The setup was frustrating, I selected QR code for wifi setup and it didn’t work, it still made me enter the wifi password manually. When I enabled the Airlink it made me confirm a code on the PC and by the time I ran up/down 2 flights of stairs it timed out and I had to do it again. I’ve been doing more swearing than game play. The light leak through the bottom of the headset is more than annoying. I threw away money buying the over priced accessories for the Quest 2, that later broke and died, so I’m not going to do it again. There’s no Quest 3 exclusive content yet so there’s no way I’d recommend to family or friends to buy this thing right now and if I do in the future I’ll have to explain to them the real price for a usable configuration. I fear this will be a market failure.
I am just a Bobo fan. I got burned by the elite with Q2 and ironically got my replacement after it broke the same day I got my M2 Pro.😅 These days, I've got the Q3 with the stock strap until Oct 27th when my Bobo Retro Kit comes in! 😬 My head is ready for comfort! 😢👊🏻🍺
Zyber Zero Elite Strap is really good for $35. Their battery strap is coming soon too.
This is a much need video I’d say. Thanks for calling out the craziness
Just waiting for BoboVR M3 Pro to become available
I feel like at the increased price that the elite strap sould be standard its a extra 129£ in the uk which is a bit of the kick in the nuts in my opinion particularly since the battery life has not improved
I agree. They advertise the £479 price point for the Quest but 128GB storage is going to be inadequate for most people so really it's £619, The supplied cloth strap is HORRIBLE, worse than the Quest 2's so that's £69.99 for the elite strap. Plus I am short sighted so it's either £39.99 for the spacer or £50+ for prescription lens adaptors. That's circa £750 before buying a single game.
It’s funny that the hand straps are $55, but it’s essential, and they could have included it in the actual box.
The elite strap is also essential because the base head strap is terrible. But $100 is crazy, and $180 for the battery version. I’m talking CAD. You get the 512mb model, hand straps, elite head battery strap and charging dock, you have now spent $1400 for all.
agree. for quest 2 I got the elite battery strap and it came with the hard case. Now with quest 3 the same price gets me *just* the battery strap so now I have no case to keep it dust free
Um yeah I’ve spent about $900 on quest 3 for the 512gb with warranty and elite strap. And now I realize I pretty much need those hand straps too. Love quest 3 but Meta MUST make the next quest USABLE out of the box because quest 2 and 3 are NOT.
Thanks for the real world take on this, as others have said most reviews are just saying how great they are not whether they are worth the money. Bravo for taking this on head on and looking at it from the 'man in the street' point of view.
I'll say it for your UK viewer's. The accessories are complete rip-off. It's gouging your customer's at it's worst.
I'll wait for quality third party accessories. Waiting on Bobo M3, case and wireless charging dock, also looking for a more comfortable face interface. The default one chafes my face. 😊
Never having owned a quest, I struggle to understand how people defend this type of hardware. Sure quality is better for the optics, but they can't even make it comfortable? I get accessories are the norm now, like a better or bigger battery. Hell, I'd buy another set of psvr 2 controllers if they sold them separately even though I get roughly 8 hours on them; which most times is plenty. But that is a convenience option I want vs a comfort option. Many folks know of the quest since it's so mainstream but when friends and family ask if they should get it, I say sure. BUT.... you'll need many accessories to make it tolerable, which of course scares them away from getting it. Hey I didn't lose them a sale, they lost themselves a sale. But VR is the best it's ever been currently. I'm most excited for RE4 in VR
BoboVR M3 or M2 Retrofit.. Meta has a silicon face mask releasing next week for $60... VRcover has theirs set to release in December.
Honestly, all these things should be included and come with the quest itself it's bullshit they sell an incomplete product and sell you the rest. No big tech company sells a complete package anymore they nickel and dime the shit out of you it's like they sell you a cheeseburger but if you want lettuce cheese ketchup mustard or anything other than the burger and bun you gotta pay extra. So, in reality, the quest isn't $500 its more like $800
Great video, video specially for new VR users, the more experience users will wait for the third party accessories.
Just wait for the real guys to step in!
BOBOVR, KIWI Design and AMVR: Allows us to introduce ourselves.
10:07 all those breakages are actually why I trust that this one wont break. No way are they gonna let that happen again.
They even mention on the website that the new elite straps are more durable based on the learnings from past straps. I've also seen some comparisons and the new straps are thicker than the previous ones for Quest 2. I think these new ones will be fine.
"The reason I trust this product so much is because it's predecessor was cheap garbage "
Yeahhhh the elite strap is spendy and likely not worth it, but having it day 1 and not risking any of the alibaba etc resellers until they get tested, it was worth it. Got the hand straps too which are great. Yes a bit more expensive but nicely integrated into the controller and feeling like a real product, rather than a cheap band on solution like the VR Cover/Kiwi/whatever I have for the Q2 or Pico 4. And the prescription lenses that haven't arrived yet.
I always figured it was one of those "we'll sell you the razor handle cheap, so we can sell you the blades for a lot" type of scenario. I can excuse the crappy head strap on the Q2: it was a $300 wireless miracle do it all headset that they were already selling at a loss. They had to save money somewhere. So they wanted to make money back on the accessories. Not only was the original elite strap expensive, it was also built wrong. The first couple of production runs were made using the wrong polymer and just about all of them broke during normal use, so they can't argue that OEM accessories are better quality. If they are going to charge movie theater food prices for their accessories then I'm going to just keep buying third party accessories that are priced fairly and are just as good in terms of quality.
you really undersold the bobo strap. The major issue with quest headsets is the weight is held by crushing the headset to your face. With the bobo halo part the weight is completely off your face to the degree you can remove the interface plate and float the headset close to your eyes giving you a wider fov
I got a headstrap on amazon that came with a protector for the front of the quest and a silicon face pad for $50 then also bought a battery pack to strap to the top for $50
Kuejct was the strap and kiwi style was that battery. no complaints so far
1:48 I agree for how good it is it still has alto od optional left... Like an easy one being free the hands! Like allow it so it can track as many hands as it can see and sperate them from the controllers... Also make it so it shows up to PCVR games as right now it does "work" as you can see the meta menu but for some reason even with OpenXR it won't just be a controller.
Great video, and I totally agree! I think the coloured headstraps should have been a hard plastic like elite or more like the Quest 1 headstrap which in my opinion is still the best default strap. I bet it cost them like £5-£10 to make those straps too 😅 £20 I agree is reasonable.
That said, do you have any info on BoboVR V3? I asked them via X and haven't heard back from them.
I think the Q3 should have shipped with the elite strap (no battery) as standard.
I 3dprinted "elite" strap for Q2, probably will do that for Q3.
I got a 20 dollar head strap and a 15 dollar 10,000mah powerbank 👌
And a package of velcro
if you buy the accessories to put it as close to being on par with the PSVR2 it’s like $200 some cheaper
obviously it has a better software library and is portable
Hello Benjo!
I was wondering about how to best evaluate the Q3's performance over the Q2... I tought about the game that, to my knowledge, struggled the most on Q2: GRID LEGENDS. I know you were not a fan... However, since your coverage, the game has been updated with graphics settings and.... MOTION CONTROLS!!!!
I'd love to see you revisit this game on Q3 and see if it benefits from the new hardware and hear what you think of the new control scheme...
Cheers!
What no "meta paid" content creator will do is:
Find the settings in terms of resolution at a fixed refresh rate where Grid Legends runs without framedrops on the same track on both Q2 and Q3.
Basically use this as a benchmark to compare performance.
This is what a Quest2/3 owner said to me.
After this comment he obviously felt I was attacking Meta and changed his numbers and refused to talk to me.
>> 125% res scale and 72hz, better than Quest 2 at 110% res and 60hz
Do the math, that suggests in REAL games Quest 3 is only 36% faster than Quest 2. Meta has some explaining to do !!!
183% res scale @ 72hz would be possible if Quest 3 was really twice the performance of Quest 2.
@@decadent. Not exactly, since the base resolution of both HMDs is different and the res scale percentage is based on that res. Furthermore, the Q3 cpu is only about 33% faster on average. Only the gpu is twice as powerful, so it depends on whether the game is somehow cpu limited... I do miss technically detailed reviews for the Quest platform in general...
@@JeanRousseau-u7s
As far as I can tell the 33% CPU improvement is relative to the original clocks of the Q2. That would mean the CPU performance of Q3 is almost the same as the current Q2.
You are correct about the res being relative to different base resolutions. Assuming Q3 is 30% higher that would make the Quest 3 77% faster than Quest 2.
I grabbed a DAS, since Amazon is clearancing them out for $25, and it's currently on the Quest 3 the old fashiond way: velcro and strap ties. I was just going to buy the adapters to use my M2, but Amazon and BoBoVR aren't playing nice with each other, because prime day got in the way of stocking the new items.
i think the 649 one should have came with the elite strap.. kind of bullshit, ill wait for the bobovr
About time someone addressed this issue. Daylight robbery with official accessories.
Cant wait for that bobo retro fit kit
Base version in Canada is $649 and that's just too much to drop on a headset right now for me. I hope next year, there will be some more affordable accessories and newer games that will make that purchase more enticing. I do really still want to experience Boneworks and Bonelabs though.
I looked into buying one on a trip to the US... Turns out it's more expensive with the conversion.
That's actually a little cheaper than it is in the US
Ended up forking out for the elite strap and battery. Feels like you need it or be massively uncomfortable … would’ve preferred a bobo but none are available and I couldn’t wait too long, the basic strap is god awful
I 3D Printed some headstrap Adapters to retrofit a Q2 comfort strap to my Quest 3- Nice little relaxing video just went up on my channel. Cheers, mates!!😊
you also missed the $40 hand straps
Can't believe they're charging $39.99 for those simple controller straps. They should've been included by default.
Appreciate you speaking up about the overpriced accessories. And the strap discomfort issue in particular. I wear (fairly big) glasses. I’m waiting on the arrival of prescription lenses (another £75 with delivery), in the meantime I can only play Quest 3 for about 15-20 minutes before I get severe headache-like pain across my forehead. I wasn’t expecting the stock strap to be particularly good, but I didn’t expect it to put me off using the device altogether. Worth mentioning I’ve spent many long hours in my Quest 2 (both stock and later Bobo strap). Loving the Quest 3 in every other respect, but no way I’ll buy an Elite strap at the current price. If the new lenses alone don’t fix my headache issue, I’ll wait for an affordable third party strap option.
Keep up the fantastic work 👍🏻
Completely agree with the points you made here. It is very ridiculous especially with the quality issues they had with the Q2 accessories. The pricing of these things that should be included as they are essential is definitely going to turn away a lot of new consumers
Waiting on BoboVR to get in stock. Had to buy a different face cover, as the whole unit is so uncomfortable. It gives me a headache if I tighten it as much as I have to, to prevent it from moving around. That and the 2 hour battery life is a complete joke. The headset is incredible, but $60 CAD just for hand straps (which I need as well) is just ridiculous. Hopefully BoboVr's m3 will be in stock this week. It sucks waiting.
I will wait patiently for the BOBOVR M3. Until then I will suffer the pain. I've given Meta enough of my money.
3:40 I'm the gffew they think it's confey and glad it came in the box but man is the support not there like no matter how you tighten it it's will still let the headset move when you move your head fast... However while I belive the majority of people will find it fine like the switch's confort which means if the headset is sold at cost or a loss leader it was a good choice for a load of reason like self space at retail and shipped and stuff like that... But they could has had the stock strap as the confort strap and raise the price $10-$20 of the heasdset to add a battery strap like the Bobo m3 which I got for $40 it would have been better and they should have thrown in the aticve grip straps to for $10 more and a less rough interface in a color of your choosing of $5 more... Which would make the headset $560 starting which would make it the most expensive console on sell but still a good value I think maybe even better... RThough the $500 starting price point is really good and I spent $700 on my quest 3 set up but then again I just bought the Meta active straps and 3rd partied the rest because the active straps are really nice though expinstive but tehrest Meta could not beat on price or funtion..
Yet these insane prices aren't deterring many buyers. Almost everything was out of stock a day in at my local retailers. In general they took the fair value mutiplied it by 2 and called that the price. Unfortunately I am sucker, and won't be deterred by costs when I want a thing. So I have the active straps for the controllers, the elite strap without battery, and the carry case. [I have a monstrous external battery bank that can chill in a pocket if I need more than 2 hours of battery.
But this is all nothing new, Quest 2 had the same priced accessories. It's all a bit much, but it's a luxury purchase, so I get it, I don't like it being so much, but it's pure luxury.
The IPhone is still useable for everyone without a case, its seems that for some, including me, the Q3 is almost unusable and not fit for purpose with that strap. So for me its a con especially the £150 for 380gb of extra HD memory.
Thank you! I used to love and support Quest, and didn’t mind over-paying for accessories (& buying games I never played). But my elite battery strap broke quickly, it sounded like they were willing to refund it, but then rescinded the offer & would only send another defective elite strap (with no additional warranty). So now I don’t buy anything from them except the new model of the Quest, and exclusive games I really want. They don’t stand by their products and they don’t care about their customers. I wish I didn’t have to support them at all but the tech is still impressive. The user experience is also worse since they went to Meta. I spent about an hour just trying to get the quest 3 connected to my account. There was no option to connect the new model in the phone app, even though itvwas up-to-date. Just Q2 and Pro. I’m guessing they mostly want people to login through Facebook, probably forgot they had a Phone app to support 🤦🏻♂️
I got a halo type strap on Amazon day 1 for $20. Just checked and it's $35 now, but it is better than my Quest 2 Elite strap was. Got a set of silicon controller covers with straps for $16. I don't buy anything "official" because you are right, they are horribly overpriced.
They do it because it makes sense from a business standpoint they know 3rd parties will flood the market with cheap prices soon and there is always people who are willing to pay extra just for the official brand name. But business standpoint and consumer standpoint usually don't align from our perspective elite strap should be what quest 3 already comes in the box with considering its 200 more than quest 2.
I just ordered the Quest 3 and received it yesterday, bought the Elite strap with battery with it, getting that in a couple of days, not setting up the Quest 3 yet until I get the Elite Strap with battery for it, thinking about buying the charging dock for the Quest 3, I would rather have something to charge the headset a lot quicker than using the standard charging cable which takes a lot longer to do, I won’t even bother with the default strap that the Quest 3 comes with, like what did with the Quest 2 also
After dropping nearly 700 bucks, there's no way in hell. Lol
The fact it comes with 0 form of lens protection is my biggest gripe, I've ordered some but it bothers me I already have some very light smudging from my eyeballs/breathing? (I'm treating it like a newborn baby) and have to simply stress about the lenses until my protectors arrive. Not even a $5 lens cover for sun/dust is very disappointing.
The cardboard that covers the lens when you umbox it can be used as a lens cover.
@@tobiasmyers3505 appreciate the tip, spose they (kinda) give something, still think giving something proper worth 5 bucks isn't a big ask, main issue is the lack of protectors for when it's on my face
Meta should want you to want to return to vr not feel like vr is about pain and suffering. Some people will just put the headset down and just say"screw it it's too painful." 🤦♂️
I got a 3d printer so I might play around and just make my own accessories
The headset itself has very low profit margins. They price accessories higher to offset that. Its either this or $800 headset and cheap accessories.
So if the elite strap is really good as you said, why are you using the boboVR M3? 😂 that elite strap is worthless. I would pay just £10 and keep it as a spare.
Oh the knuckle grips are really nice but for like $40??? Yeah, I have a hard time trying to recommend people go out and buy it
Of course meta’s accessories are overpriced! Here are better quality accessories from established vendors:
VIVE deluxe audio strap w/ built in headphones ($100)
Studioform creative rear battery strap ($15)
AMVR snap on controller straps ($25)
AMVR vented face plate ($20)
VR Cover face cushion ($25)
I Love it when you go RAW......no time for lube, !"always time for lube!" (from the movie evolution)
Gotta wait for Black Friday, I don't expect any price drops but a Bundles options.
Also... I'm keeping myself away from the headset, because I don't want 512GB and don't want 128GB neither. Gotta wait for that 256GB drop in soon, I'm sure they'll do it.
If you dont know, i can tell you exactly why it is. So i have been a shop manager for years. Things, have changed. So basically you dont earn anything on the main product. Due the pricing of competition. So this is the only way they will earn anything. Both Microsoft and Apple, sell a product to break even, or a total loss now days. So the stores, who has the products, needs to sell accessories to earn money. So accessories, can cost 3 dollars to make, but sells for 35 dollar in the shop. I was sitting on the "cost" price for most of the products up in time. Why you think they want you to buy all the stuff when you buy a tablet, phone or computer? Or else its a loss on the sale. We where selling Ipads that was 100 dollar loss to the shop for each Ipad sold. So it was important for the shop to earn back money on accessories. The Meta quest, has stuff in there that costs more then the current price tag. Just look at phones with same specs. Then it might spark light bulb for you. Then all the sensors, cameras, lenses etc. I belive the cost of the Quest 3 is closer to a 800-1000 dollar to make. They have cut down of a few things, to make it more affordable. Like the straps. Why you think we have elite straps with battery etc? If they did go out to make the best product they can.. They would never sell with those shitty straps that came with the headset. Also they know that its a need for it. Some games that i played, was only playable for a bit over 1 hour. That is an issue. They made an issue to sell a product to earn back the money they lost. Also its more easy to buy cheaper headset. Then notice something you need, like battery and comfort. Its easy to just add a 170 dollar later on. Then you forget what the total price is in the end of the total experience of the product. Then you spent 170 dollar more there.. then you need games... 3-4 games 20 dollar each.. it adds up in the end. Then they have earned money on the Quest 3 in the end. maby 5-10% more then the cost of producing. The bigger problem is when it get to Europe. We need to pay much more for everything. Headset was over 300 dollar more, the games are 4 dollar more. The overpriced accessories 180 dollar for elite strap with battery, 170dollar for the docking.. 100 dollar for the case, so you can carry it around. So we pay 500-600 dollar more then in the states in total of that package Europe starts to react negative to the prices and the total cost. If I want to buy a GTX 4090. I pay 500 dollar more, then the people in the USA. Then it starts to get really expensive and an issue
I literally paid $17 US dollars (not social medicine built in - I pay 💰 that in my paycheck) for the pro head strap on Amazon! I want the charge dock but not for $130! No Thanks!
That's Terry Wogan's Blankety Blank Microphone!!!
Its a shame they still gave us an elastic strap at $500 when the Rift CV1/S came with elite straps for the same price.
It is fucking insane. They’re shooting themselves in the foot by making a wearable device that is UNCOMFORTABLE to wear. No wonder retention is low.
Just got the Meta 3 and waiting for elite strap to arrive as the stock one squeezes my head, then i get a headache.
I was using original box to pack away, but now looking for a storage solution. The case is so disgustingly priced! Any decent recommendations?
I have never purchased a single 'extra item' from Meta for any of the three Oculus units I have owned. Third-party cheaper and often better accessories become available to purchase within 1-2 days after the units release. We do not fund greed, if we can help it.
I agree with your thoughts and would even price most things a bit cheaper to be honest. While it is likely they lose money for every headset sold (like the Quest 2) and they have to make some of it back, the price for 1st party accessories is just abusive for what they offer and it's interesting they don't even provide a discount for getting the headset with an accesory.
No, they are not losing money on this one at all. After doing a teardown the full value of the headset in parts is about $270.86. I reviewed their costs with labor and shipping. They are gaining about $200 with each headset, more with the 500GB model.
Now if everyone starts returning them, then yes, they will lose a ton of money!
The accessories are low quality, uncomfortable, and overpriced.
You need to add a battery talk to this. You're promoting the bobo but you need to say q3 needs those extra batteries if you're playing pass through for hours.
I will say, I like the fact that the stock strap allows you to lay down while wearing the headset. It's unfortunate that no good alternatives do that well.
Look at the adjustment of the face and you will find your favorite comfort
Just wondering, are you planning to do a review of Genotype? It came out a few days ago and I found it a little curious that none of the bigger VR YT channels chose to do a review on this one. Looks very good.
waiting for bobovr strap, but it takes a while...
I have the 512 gb quest 3 and I bought the elite battery strap as I had the one for quest 2 and love them both never had any issues with breaking. I also picked up the hard shell case as I do go places with mine frequently. There is a known issue in the community I am experiencing with the elite battery strap for quest 3 that we are speculating is a software/firmware issue that can be patched with an update hopefully but what is happening is the headset does not recognize the battery strap is plugged in and will not take a charge as a result, at least you cant tell it is. I was able to unplug mine from the headset and charge the headset and battery strap separately and then plugged it back in, still wasnt recognized after powering off several times, however doing an actual restart of the headset was a success and everything is charging as normal and it is recognized by the headset again. Hopefully its fixed soon.
Dumb for buyin 512 and super dumb for buyin the elite strap😂😂😂😂😂 128 for me and BOBO 3 for wayyyyy less NO PROBLEMS
@@dlsrudeboy8658 why is 512 dumb? It has way more memory and therefore performs better
No need to insult people because they bought something, he asked people to put in the comments if and what they bought but not for other people to criticize and insult them. I hope you enjoy the BOBO strap. P.S. I had the 128GB Quest 2 and had it beyond filled up with games so I knew 128 for Quest 3 was no good, 512 was mandatory for me.
@@Furby-luv3r It has more storage, otherwise the technical specs are identical, It wont perform better.
@@dlsrudeboy8658Do you feel better now, child?
You have an Apple watch and an Apple iPhone and you reckon Meta are overcharging? Apple will reset the bar when they release their VR. Companies for years have tried to make up profit losses on they main hardware with the accessories, nothing new here.
Agree completely!
I actually feel you were too generous .. I feel these accessories are worth even less, which is a shame.
I agree, Meta accessories are wildly inaccurate with price>worth. I know that all official accessories be it Meta, Sony or Apple are this way because the margin is high on them and they in turn will say we do this to make the money we lost on the hardware and at times this could be true, Meta's Quest 2 price at launch is evidence of this.
I have purchased lenses from Widmo and grips from AMVR. I am still waiting for the M3 Pro to be available as I have 2 batteries and the dock for the M2 and I am guessing the M3 will come with a battery, their site says October, is coming soon, and Amazon does not have any listings for it.
You nailed it. As a Quest Pro user who bought a Quest 3 it took me 3 days to return the 3. Te default strap is an absolute joke. There are ski goggles INFINITELY more comfortable than these things. That and the battery life is laughable. 2 hours? I don't own a single piece of tech that doesn't get at least 3 1/2 to 4 hours of battery (including Quest Pro)
So $580 for the headset, $130 for the strap with battery... You're getting up to Quest Pro prices and still only have essentially better passthrough (not THAT much better) and better GPU. You can still play and will be able to play allllll the same games, with better tracking, audio comfort etc on the Pro vs the 3. For the Q3, Elite battery strap, Docking station you're spending $820 ish bucks.... Quest Pro gives you so much more, better battery life better audio better comfort dock included better tracking for what? $150 ish more? Don't get me wrong Quest 3 looks great the graphics upgrade is nice. But guess what, I can boost the Quest Pro's visuals using 3rd party APK's like Quest Games Optimizer. I may get slightly lower FPS but I can get similar results.
You were honestly being generous. I wouldn't pay a dollar over 20CAD for the 'elite' strap lmao. It's a piece of plastic...
not only expensive but I cant find any lens protectors. I dont want my lenses to get scratched, I always put a screen protector on everything just to be safe. But nobody is making freaken lens screen protectors for the quest 3!
I hate the stock one. My Quest 2 Elite Strap broke in under 2 weeks of having it. So I will not be buying a quest 3 version. I will wait impatiently for the Bobovr M3.
i loved the blue headstrap and really wanted one when i pe ordered the headset but when i saw it was £50 it was a hell no. if it was a replacement for the standard one when ordering and free it would been ok, as for the rest of it its just too high priced. the charging dock would be great but out of my price range. i'll be getting a bobovr M1 pro headstrap when they bring it out as the halo m3 dosent feel nice on my head