I appreciate you putting this together. I really appreciate you putting this together as a film editor. This must have taken you forever to record and edit! Thank you!
Really helpful. It all depends on what the application is but I think the top 3 that would work in most gigging/studio situations are: 1. K Custom Dark 2. K 3. Either the A Medium or Ping
@@TunnelSnake-es7tu I don't think so. If you play metal you'll probably want a more cutting bell (not necessarily though), but for almost any other musical context, it's great. It blends with the music and isn't too harsh. And I play mostly rock, by the way. Anyway, everybody has its own preference, I guess...
Excellent! Loved the way you demo'd each cymbal with different rhythmic patterns-riding, crashing, etc. No one else I've seen has done it so clearly, that it seems crazy they haven't!
Two things to remember in all cymbal videos: 1. Choosing a favorite sound is like choosing a favorite flavor of ice cream. It is entirely subjective. 2. No two people demonstrating them sound alike. This video is a wonderful comparison of all of them. I can't say there is a single best one for anyone. Great job!!!!! All your hard work is appreciated.
Either of the Constantinople rides are easily the best sounding and coolest looking, especially with that awesome vintage logo. Only problem is the price tag.
I wished all cymbal comparison videos copied your presentation. It was the best on RUclips No crazy chops on the snare and crazy bell heavy samples mixed with patterns that hinder you from hearing the quality of the sound. You separated it and it flowed in a row. I really that you. You really provided me the most comprehensive and valuable service I’ve been dying for I’ll bet there are a lot of people now who can go out and actually buy the cymbal that is without doubt perfect for them the 1st time
@@carlosaguilar6835 I own the 22 and have a/b'ed many against it and it's got it's own sound and is a very cool ride. Crashes fantastic. Deep and low without weird overtones.
After visiting my local drum shop many times, I ended up with the 20" K Custom Dark Ride. It sounds much better than the video and matches up perfectly with my 18" K Custom Dark Crash. My style is light jazz and light pop/rock with various wood tip sticks, depending on the size of the venue. Years ago, I only used Zildjian A Series cymbals but as the K Series expanded and improved I've "gone to the dark side".
It must have been a hell of a job to change all those cymbals and then record edit and put together the videos. Here, take my like for the attitude! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Nice1, this is a very useful insight into the range of dynamics because lets face it, no-one wants to stand in a shop smashing cymbals out of context..
I like the bells on the Aviedis, like the stick/wash on K dark and finish on the A custom. If you put all that together that would be my ideal ride cymbal.
Great video, thanks for taking the time to put it together. I prefer the versatile models and would happily play the Avedis, K Custom Dark, A Medium or K Con Medium. My wife prefers the L80 - go figure??
I use two ride cymbals regularly. A Paidte Signautre Dry Ride which I use for an all purpose ride. I've played every type of gig I could with it from jazz to metal in the past nine years I've had it. It's used from 1991. It reminds me of the Zildjian K. Custom Dark Ride here. At least with the sound of the bow. The other cymbal I love is the Paiste Signature Dry Dark Ride. Again. It's a pretty versatile that people seem to like for jazz, and I usually use mine for rock/metal. This one sounded amazing with the tips of Regal Tip Groovers. Sort of a rounded barrel tip on a 5A + type stick. Since those sticks are gone. I switched to Vic Firth 5B and 5A Doubleglaze, which I think I like even more, but I'll have to do more testing to know for sure. When finances allow, I'd like to build a set of Zildjians again, around the K. Custom, and K. Custom Dark Ride.
Was anyone else surprised by the Rock ride? I had never really given them much thought, but wow - almost as good as the K Custom Darks and way cheaper.
Idk why K heavy ride sounds brighter than A rock ride. I mean, A lines provide bright, wash cymbals and K lines provide dark, dry cymbals. Is the brilliant/traditional finish matter?
Very Well Done! Brilliant! Ha! Yeah despite their detractors claims? Zildjian crafts professional instruments with great variety of sounds to choose from light and whispery to deafening sharp and loud.
Custom dark is just amazing overall. The Avedis, A custom, are definitely great too But that damn K custom is the best sounding I’ve ever heard The more I listen to cymbals the more I’m convinced that these more exotic K’s are really only for 1% of drummers And they are all professionals. 1% of music played live today would even require these type of cymbal sounds Yeah I love the more exotic sounds but really where do they in practicality fit?
The Zildjian Avedis Deep Ride 20" is a great ride cymbal. To bad they had disscontinued it's production. The fully separated bell with more sweet spots, if you play it quieter it gives a great vintage dry cymbal sound with low overtones. And if you play it louder it also has a great sound. You can even use it as a crash cymbal. Perfect cymbal for playing at all kinds of situations, from low to medium and to loud volume gigs..
Had a K Custom and it sounded great. Until I got it home and played it with my kit. I couldn’t hear it at all. It was extremely quiet. Got rid of it even though it sounded good, but it just couldn’t cut through the rest of the kit.
Like others have said, the dark K's win. I do also like the Constantinoples, and I prefer the second one over the first one. The dark K that was raw was good because it is much thicker than the others, and that makes for a good ride cymbal for the crispness on the bell and playing the tip of the stick. Overall, the dark K's win this comparison. I am not familiar at all with that Kerope. Didn't care for it, except it might be better to me, as a crash instead of a ride.
The Avedas 20" is superior to them all. And it sounds like my used Sabian B8pro 20 " medium ride. For Jazz swing it is a must have and for all slow songs.
I really liked the zildjian Hope I got someone to laugh But in all seriousness, I bought the K Con Med 20" on sale for $370 and I regret it, because a day later when I was shopping for a crash, I played some K Custom Dark 20" rides and fell in love, but couldn't afford them
nice video pal! just an observation... since half of this rides are not to meant to be played as rock rides with rock patterns... perhaps you can make a video with some jazz patterns for some of em? thanks!
Ears, acuity to detect nuanced ping, ring ding, crash, splash, tonal clarity are peculiar to every player. Then match cymbals and drummer stylings to the song and ensemble. Next thing you know, clink, clank & clunk there’s a hot hit sizzling in the percussion section
I appreciate you putting this together. I really appreciate you putting this together as a film editor. This must have taken you forever to record and edit! Thank you!
Haha. Appreciated
Really helpful. It all depends on what the application is but I think the top 3 that would work in most gigging/studio situations are:
1. K Custom Dark
2. K
3. Either the A Medium or Ping
Those are the exact three I picked out in blind sound comparison. Nice!
K Custom Dark wins pretty much every sound category. 👍
Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
I agree. I have one in 22" and I'm in love with it... !!
The bell isn’t great, think it’s too quite
@@TunnelSnake-es7tu I don't think so. If you play metal you'll probably want a more cutting bell (not necessarily though), but for almost any other musical context, it's great. It blends with the music and isn't too harsh. And I play mostly rock, by the way. Anyway, everybody has its own preference, I guess...
Isi Hernández he doesn’t have it shown but the zildjian heavy 20 is a good balance
@@TunnelSnake-es7tu never said there isn't many other great cymbals... 🤣🤷🏻♂️
Great video! So simple, straight to the point, not much blabla - so effectiv! Thanks alot!!! Next video crashes, chinas, hihats!?!?
K Heavy Ride was my favorite!
Excellent! Loved the way you demo'd each cymbal with different rhythmic patterns-riding, crashing, etc. No one else I've seen has done it so clearly, that it seems crazy they haven't!
21" A sweet ride is one of the best
That is my favorite, and what I always use.
Two things to remember in all cymbal videos:
1. Choosing a favorite sound is like choosing a favorite flavor of ice cream. It is entirely subjective.
2. No two people demonstrating them sound alike.
This video is a wonderful comparison of all of them. I can't say there is a single best one for anyone. Great job!!!!! All your hard work is appreciated.
A Medium Ride and K Ride, the best for me! Amazing video and performance
Best way to decide upon this excellent work is to watch it eyes closed, over and over.
Either of the Constantinople rides are easily the best sounding and coolest looking, especially with that awesome vintage logo. Only problem is the price tag.
I wished all cymbal comparison videos copied your presentation. It was the best on RUclips
No crazy chops on the snare and crazy bell heavy samples mixed with patterns that hinder you from hearing the quality of the sound. You separated it and it flowed in a row.
I really that you. You really provided me the most comprehensive and valuable service I’ve been dying for
I’ll bet there are a lot of people now who can go out and actually buy the cymbal that is without doubt perfect for them the 1st time
I agree, there is always way too much bell in most ride demos.
I’ve been building my studio drum set and this really helps me, trying to find the perfect RIDE as we speak🤩
Why’s no one talking about the Avedis? That sounds great!
Agree!
My fave!
Good tone, but also loud!
It’s the worst one
@@carlosaguilar6835 I own the 22 and have a/b'ed many against it and it's got it's own sound and is a very cool ride. Crashes fantastic. Deep and low without weird overtones.
After visiting my local drum shop many times, I ended up with the 20" K Custom Dark Ride. It sounds much better than the video and matches up perfectly with my 18" K Custom Dark Crash. My style is light jazz and light pop/rock with various wood tip sticks, depending on the size of the venue.
Years ago, I only used Zildjian A Series cymbals but as the K Series expanded and improved I've "gone to the dark side".
I dig the A Custom 20” Ride. Love the finish and the sound
Anthony Faiola 9 I love mine
It must have been a hell of a job to change all those cymbals and then record edit and put together the videos. Here, take my like for the attitude! 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
A Custom for me. Just ordered one.
Ive been looking all over the internet and havent found a better demo than this. Now just do it with every cymbal every company etc!
K Custom Dark followed by the A Custom brilliant
The two best at opposite ends from Zildjian. They've set the standard in that regard.
Great presentation - thanks! This is extremely informative-much more so than most of the other comparison videos out there. Well done.
K Heavy sounds best to me, great video thanks
One of the worst sounding ones.. Only one was good, and it was the Kerope.
Same
Well done! Thank you. Very helpful. I'd go for the standard K or either of the K Cons.
22" KCon is where it's at.
I've got a 20" K and a 20" K Custom and good Lord they are two of the best sounding rides I've ever heard.
I like how the A Custom cuts through. Great rock and metal ride.
It's the all-around best Bright cymbal Zildjian offers. Other manufacturers make better cymbals for that category, but A Customs hold their own.
Nice1, this is a very useful insight into the range of dynamics because lets face it, no-one wants to stand in a shop smashing cymbals out of context..
K. Not too dark, not washy, not thin, not hard ... just perfect!
I like the K heavy and K dark. Thanks, I'm learning about drums so I get exactly what I want when I purchase. Very helpful video.
I have both. Love them!!!
Thank you! Very helpful
Lmao the l80 ride cracked me up...
Loved the K Heavy, the K custom and the Ping Ride! There was one important ride missing though: A SWEET RIDE (traditional and brilliant finish)
I like the bells on the Aviedis, like the stick/wash on K dark and finish on the A custom. If you put all that together that would be my ideal ride cymbal.
Try a K Custom Sweet Ride.
Great video, thanks for taking the time to put it together. I prefer the versatile models and would happily play the Avedis, K Custom Dark, A Medium or K Con Medium. My wife prefers the L80 - go figure??
Thank you for this great demo! I like the a medium and a custom.
Regular 20" K ride sounds best all around, really nice riding with little to no wash out and especially the bell to my ears.
100% agree!
I'd have to say the A medium had the best overall.
I use two ride cymbals regularly.
A Paidte Signautre Dry Ride which I use for an all purpose ride. I've played every type of gig I could with it from jazz to metal in the past nine years I've had it. It's used from 1991. It reminds me of the Zildjian K. Custom Dark Ride here. At least with the sound of the bow.
The other cymbal I love is the Paiste Signature Dry Dark Ride. Again. It's a pretty versatile that people seem to like for jazz, and I usually use mine for rock/metal. This one sounded amazing with the tips of Regal Tip Groovers. Sort of a rounded barrel tip on a 5A + type stick. Since those sticks are gone. I switched to Vic Firth 5B and 5A Doubleglaze, which I think I like even more, but I'll have to do more testing to know for sure.
When finances allow, I'd like to build a set of Zildjians again, around the K. Custom, and K. Custom Dark Ride.
Was anyone else surprised by the Rock ride? I had never really given them much thought, but wow - almost as good as the K Custom Darks and way cheaper.
K Ride 20 ~ sounds great !
Very interesting and fairly useful ! Well done!
really good video
K Crash 0:37
K Custom Dark 1:01
Great video! I’m surprised, though, that your wallet was still heavy enough to mute that snare. Two of these pies and mine would float away.
Avedis, kerope, and Constantinople thin high are gorgeous cymbals
Thanks so much for doing this, this video is perfect and exactly what I needed!
K custom dark my favourite. No annoying ping, not much wash and very versatile.
Great work on this thanks
Hearing them back to back helped. I like the K Heavy.
The heavy ride has the best bell sound imo, but I can’t decide which is overall my favorite
Idk why K heavy ride sounds brighter than A rock ride. I mean, A lines provide bright, wash cymbals and K lines provide dark, dry cymbals.
Is the brilliant/traditional finish matter?
Thanks for doing this. Honestly want them all..
This is a great vid! It confirms my choice in the A Ping! Great stick, killer bell and the new A’s open up enough to crash it!
Very Well Done! Brilliant! Ha! Yeah despite their detractors claims? Zildjian crafts professional instruments with great variety of sounds to choose from light and whispery to deafening sharp and loud.
K dark custom 👌🏼
Nice comparison video
Really helpful thank you so much!!
Custom dark is just amazing overall.
The Avedis, A custom, are definitely great too
But that damn K custom is the best sounding I’ve ever heard
The more I listen to cymbals the more I’m convinced that these more exotic K’s are really only for 1% of drummers
And they are all professionals. 1% of music played live today would even require these type of cymbal sounds
Yeah I love the more exotic sounds but really where do they in practicality fit?
razorblazer 05 I know that. I was commenting on the exotic cymbals in the K lineup not K customs
The best cymbal comparison on the internet. All about the cymbals and not a drummers ego
Nice collection
2:46 5:31
3:19. 6:03
3:30 6:14
4:02. 6:46
Amazing vídeo, thank you!
Please, what weight was the Avedis? Sounds incredible... Thank you for great comparison!!!
K ride!!!!!!!! Wow wow wow :-)
I own a K 20” and love it. Want a K Custom.
I got a 20" K in 1999 - I don't know still if I love it. But after 20 years I haven't been able to top it!
The Zildjian Avedis Deep Ride 20" is a great ride cymbal. To bad they had disscontinued it's production. The fully separated bell with more sweet spots, if you play it quieter it gives a great vintage dry cymbal sound with low overtones. And if you play it louder it also has a great sound. You can even use it as a crash cymbal. Perfect cymbal for playing at all kinds of situations, from low to medium and to loud volume gigs..
K dark is the best
For me to poop on ! No actually I agree
Thanks! great review!
I know that it has been five years since this was posted, but do you remember what stick you were using? Thanks.
K Custom Dark Ride: lovely!
Had a K Custom and it sounded great. Until I got it home and played it with my kit. I couldn’t hear it at all. It was extremely quiet. Got rid of it even though it sounded good, but it just couldn’t cut through the rest of the kit.
Do you still have the K heavy ride available???
K Custom Dark Ride for me
To my opinion - K Custom Dark Ride, K Crash Ride, K Ride, A Medium Ride
Which one of these ride cymbals would work in an indie setting?
I was hoping too see a 20" Session Ride in there.......it would of been one of better ones....I think!
Thanks for the great video!
Crash RIDE sounds pretty good to my ears...only thing a bit lacking is the bell
k crash ride. that's what comes into my mind as a ride cymbal tbh
they all sound better than my paiste pst 7
Yeah thats because they're expensive high class B20 cymbals.
😂
Cool video also reminds me of Ween’s Roses Are Free intro
Thank You!
could you post the weight of the Kerope?
The links for the cymbals go no where ?
I have to go with the K 20
Like others have said, the dark K's win. I do also like the Constantinoples, and I prefer the second one over the first one. The dark K that was raw was good because it is much thicker than the others, and that makes for a good ride cymbal for the crispness on the bell and playing the tip of the stick. Overall, the dark K's win this comparison. I am not familiar at all with that Kerope. Didn't care for it, except it might be better to me, as a crash instead of a ride.
THANK YOU......
Either custom A or heavy K
The Avedas 20" is superior to them all. And it sounds like my used Sabian B8pro 20 " medium ride. For Jazz swing it is a must have and for all slow songs.
I always forget about the Kerope.
A...medium
K ...ride
K... dark
K... crash ride
Yummmmy Kerope ride
Organic k sweet ride is my favorite
20” K heavy. My choice!
No custom hybrid ride which is my personal favourite🤔
I really liked the zildjian
Hope I got someone to laugh
But in all seriousness, I bought the K Con Med 20" on sale for $370 and I regret it, because a day later when I was shopping for a crash, I played some K Custom Dark 20" rides and fell in love, but couldn't afford them
Trade!
You didn’t try the Z custom 20” ride
nice video pal! just an observation... since half of this rides are not to meant to be played as rock rides with rock patterns... perhaps you can make a video with some jazz patterns for some of em? thanks!
A custom really sounds great in video but better in person
Ears, acuity to detect nuanced ping, ring ding, crash, splash, tonal clarity are peculiar to every player. Then match cymbals and drummer stylings to the song and ensemble. Next thing you know, clink, clank & clunk there’s a hot hit sizzling in the percussion section
k heavy for most purposes then i'll use the k custom for metal