There's a video of a extension cord built in a power plug held together by a bunch of rare earth magnets that rolls the cord and while testing the designers couldn't figure out why the thing kept being set ablaze until they hired engineers that basically called the designers insane. Start looking for engineering stuff in instagram and the algorithm will throw plenty of designers fever dreams on ya.
No joke. Often newer models of tools seem on average worse because only the really good ones last long enough to become antiques... but this crap is a solid fired your engineers for designers situation. It isn't even "cost optimized" situation because you can find dirt cheap no-name tools on AliExpress better than this.
Yeah. I've got a couple of those harbor freight composite rachets with like 80 teeth and they're going strong over 10 years later. i did lube them good when i first bought them though.
When getting a new socket set I like to spot weld the 10mm socket to the bottom of the drawer. You still can't use it, but at least you know where it is...
@@GTAmaniac1 I thought it was just me! Except for that wrench that's 15mm on one end and 13mm on the other, which it always seems like I have 7 of when I need a 14mm
I have a little Stanley toolset thats in a black box and that thing freaking rocks. I keep it in my jeep and I've used and abused it for 5 years (the guy before me had it for a few also). Maybe they changed the design or this guy got a shitty set. I know for sure Stanley will take it back and send you a new one
@@errhka I also have a 15 year old plastic molded 100+ toolkit I keep in the truck. Works great, and has been used many times over the years. A few sockets chipped off the chrome a little, but that is only on the pretty side, not the working side.
I’m a grown man, never had issues opening a pickle jar, and yet I can’t get some of these sockets out of their slot to save my life. Good to keep a flat head screwdriver handy
Modern Engineering: "How can we take solid designs that lasted decades and redesign them to last 10's of minutes and get the customer to think it their fault when things break?"
i think this was both design and user error... the user used it in the wrong grip and a design failure cause his use of it in the wrong grip to find a flaw in that when the lever is actuated while you are tightening it the lever for lack of proper design has the room to push past the ratchet mechanism and into a non functional area. solution don't do that or replace the skate with a slightly altered design with a ridge at either side with detents.
To some degree, you are correct to think that planned obsolescence is a thing. To another degree, you, as the consumer, are at fault, because you demand the cheapest tool you can have. Don't believe me? Then why did Craftsman switch from American made to Chinese manufacture? Because Harbor Freight, that's why.
The designers and engineers would, left to their own devices, come up with excellent tools that would last a lifetime, but that would mean a few cents less per sale to the shareholders, and they're the ones calling the shots.
@@jutde because profits, that's why. Normal people were still buying Craftsman, they just weren't going to Sears because their prices on everything else were a scam... And why wasn't it profitable? Too top heavy!
I had the exact same problem w/ my Stanley 3/8 drive ratchet before - did some searching on Amazon and someone else found the cause and solution. I tried searching for it again but couldn't find it but I saved the text, copy and paste below: "A few uses and they lock up, you can't switch them and they don't spin anymore. What I found is that the shift lever is a tenth of a millimeter too far away from the drive gear, which when the ratchet is under stress allows the spring to extend far enough that it jams the claw to the side, locking the ratchet. A quick reassembly with a T9 torx screwdriver fixes this problem, but the next time the ratchet is stressed it will happen again. I've added a shim to the rear of the shift lever, pushing it forward just a tiny bit, and the problem hasn't happened since. If the manufacturing specs were a little tighter, this wouldn't be an issue.". You video shown exact this at 6:42 - the problematic part is the piece with "12" stamp on it and where the claw goes. I found it's actually better to tape the circular part/back of the piece (with "12" stamp on it) using electrical tape so it pushes the piece forward. My ratchet didn't jam since.
Chinese manufacturers have only steadily gotten better, while American manufacturers have only gotten progressively more lazy and poor quality (if they haven't already shipped out to China or some other country with cheap labor).
@@duckslayer92 yeah but the professional series from harbor freight is sadly on par, I've seen several test with the harbor freight torque wrench actually being more consistent then the snap on, and unfortunately when I can buy an 25-30mm deep impact socket set with the same warranty for less then a single socket it's hard to justify the price difference. And I grew up using nothing but quality american tools, snap on and craftsman primarily. Sadly I won't ever give craftsman another penny, the day I saw on the shelf in a sears a standard socket set with made in the usa and right next to it is a bunch of newly stocked sets of the same set for the same price but missing the made in usa, searched around the box and in fine print in the corner made in china
I got a set of husky PRO at HD DAMN NEAR 20 YEARS AGO those bastards are still trucking and have seen tons of use almost daily and many many cheater bars
@@dbillionaer I bought a set of craftsman tools when they were still available at sears, about 10 yrs ago. I still use them a lot, maan Crapsman has really turn into its name.
I bought a Stanley ratchet set at Costco thirty something years ago for 79.99, three drivers and full SAE/metric sizes.. Never had a problem. People wonder why I am so protective of them... they don't understand how hard (read expensive) it would be to replace them with similar quality these days.
There are two modern sets. One is made in China. The other is made in Taiwan. One guess on which is vastly superior. Hint: The Taiwanese set is chromed.
I remember back in high school learning about tools. I'm sure a lot of you will say that is kind of "late" to learn about tools. But anyway, our instructor taught us lots of useful tips and tricks that I still use today. He was a smart man and I owe him a lot. One of the things he taught us was how to use tools properly. When it comes to tools with moving parts, particularly ratchets, He taught us not to just wing the tool back and forth through its range of motion and expect it to last. Alternating between applying force and resetting requires a certain length of time not afforded by quick movement. He said "Give it time before applying full force again". And "Apply force gradually to make sure teeth are fully engaged". I know some tools are designed in a way that malfunctions are much less likely to occur in this situation, but I still do it that way. It has become a habit for me. I have worked with dozens of guys and the majority of them do things in the "wing it back and forth" method. They all leave a string of broken tools and other destruction behind them. I also know that no grown ass man wants to be told that they don't know the proper way to use the simplest of hand tools. And that hard earned money spent for tools goes with some expectation of the tool doing its job. I'm not saying the tools in this video were used improperly, because obviously, I wasn't there. I'm only putting out there what I see every day.
@@John_Ridley That's the problem I ended up with in my Craftsman stuff years ago. No point in warrantying it anymore. Just replace it with higher quality when it dies.
it doesn't even matter because if you actually can find the 10mm socket.. you will immediately need 2 at once for the nut on the backside and you are short one 10mm all over again..
@@philliplapkovitch311 Today I yelled to my son...Feed those "Damn chicken's," that Constant Clucking is driving me Insane! He yelled back I already did, Mom's watching the View...
AvE I would like to thank you for happy memories with my brother. A few years ago we were talking about RUclips channels we liked. He started talking about this Canadian engineer he really liked. As he kept talking I asked "Is that AvE?" He said "Yes, that's the guy!" We would spend many hours talking about your vijeyos. As time went on that seemed to be the only thing we had in common. My Bro had a masters degree from an Ivy League institution. I had an associates degree from a college of little importance. He had jobs instructing the youth of tomorrow. I built circuit boards for contactors, maintained radios and vehicles for police and fire departments and installed cable TV until I was crippled in a car accident. Then my brother quit his job when his wife told him he should if it didn't make him happy. Then she quit him because he didn't make her happy. Then he slowly lost his mind. I found him dead a few days after his birthday. Thanks for giving us one last thing to laugh about. Keep your dick in a vice.
I love that set & use it everyday at work on my service truck. Never used the ratchets I only use the sockets. My snap on & gear wrench ratchets are my go to. Find a portable tool set with the assortment of sockets that compares to the price. Best assortment with 1/4”,3/8”,1/2” deep/shallow metric standard. But what do I know I’ve been a mechanic for 40 years.
The other day I opened my “spare tool” drawer and found 5 12-point 10mm sockets. Every time I go to the flea market I look for 6-point ones, of course, but they must all be in another dimension.
I tried to return a Craftsman wrench once and Sears refused so I only buy Stanley now for the last tweenty years. I've personally never had a problem with them. They are my favorite tools .🤔
I suspect that a lot of people, like me, would buy a pretty complete Stanley set on sale at Canadian Tire just to have when the occasion for use comes up. They would sit unused for quite some time. Perhaps Stanley knows this.
My boss has almost the same set. The blow molded case has a death grip on all of its contents so tight you need a 6' crowbar to get any of the sockets out. Also the ratchet mechanisms are so tight they won't do any ratcheting on any fastener that isn't already seated.
Got a DeWalt drill bit set like that. It's almost impossible to remove or insert the drill bits in the case. Coincidentally it's also really cheep and low quality. (Recently replaced it with a set from Makita and the difference is night and day, not only do the drills come out the case without breaking your finger nails the drills are also much sharper, meanwhile the DeWalt bits would take multiple pecks to get through oak and would be smoking while doing it, coincidentally this set also had the worst countersink bit I have ever seen, it's so dull that it more or less burns it's way into wood rather than actually cutting)
As soon as you pulled apart the first one I knew what you'd find in the second one. My guess is it happened to the first one as well and its the same pall so it has more room to move so it came clean out allowing the thumb lever to move past it as well. You're right in that the meat matters, in this case they skimped on the thickness of the pall. So disappointing that the integrity of these names disappears over time through buyouts and takeovers and downsizing and all that. At some point some fuck knuckle comes along that doesn't care and isn't content with making some money and tries to make more money before he dies or the brand dies, whichever comes first matters not.
40 years ago, my socket set came in one big cardboard box with nothing but a picture on it. lol no bells, no whistles and no decoration, it's still going all these years later.
Batman's tool set is not black. Unless they've come out with a new "all-inclusive" batman movie. Like they did with Annie, Spiderman, and the next James Bond.
@@littlejackalo5326 I've only read the comics & seen the sixties TV show so I have no idea if they even showed a tool set in the films... If that's what you're saying?
I have a tool set like this by Crescent with the same style of ratchets and they're beasts. Really fine teeth and super solid mechanism that doesn't wobble around. I've stomped on the 3/8 ratchet to get lug nuts off. I'm only bringing this up because it was CHEAPER than the Stanley kit and nothing has broken in the 6 years Ive owned it.
I was given a set of these about 5 years ago and they certainly seize up. I keep a bucket of old transmission oil and drop them in there for a few days whenever they lock up. They seem to always come back to life. Great for lending to the kids and not care if they ever return.
Ask Dewclaw ifn' he was choochin' an impact driver on the other side when the socket drive shat out. Perhaps vibration matched the resonant frequency of the detent or one of the overtones. (Picture a vibratory lock pick.) Note: I had to use Google Translate from English to Canuckinstan for parts of this post. I hope I nailed it.
Craftsman had been ruined before Stanley bought the name. If Eddie Lampert hadn't already ruined the Craftsman name, Stanley wouldn't have been able to afford to buy it.
My guess is that he pushed the selector while the ratchet was under load. I think the load would hold the pawl in place and allow the spring loaded detent to be pushed off the end of the pawl. It's the only way I can imagine that happened, and explains there being no damage to any of the parts. And easy experiment, try it and see if it lets you do it.
Stanley now owns the Craftsman name, lol.... and yes, I agree.... both brands were once great names in the tool world, they are now both utter garbage, unfortunately.
I’ve had similar issues with my Stanley set. Sure, the warranty covered my issues but it’s unacceptable when you shear the drive off a 1/4” ratchet and it takes 6 whole months for the replacement to arrive. I’m pretty sure I’ve broken more Stanley tools than I can count on my two hands
Having had my share of issues with ratchets over the years, I've noticed 1 standout fault- the user. I learned that you should break the bolt with a strongarm and then use the ratchet, saves a lot of situations that would otherwise have gone pear shaped.
Somewhat correct; ratchets have torque limits. The subject ratchets didn't fail from excessive stress, per se. The gears / teeth are not stripped or galled as would be the case if over stressed.
Yeah I used to work somewhere and they'd never buy new tools, it was horrendous. One guys job just to repair, impacts, ratchets...etc. absolutely sucked. Great money though. Brought it a few of my own tools just to make they day easier
@@punk105 I once fixed a super cheap ratchet that was so cheap the hole in the head had gotten bent into an oval. Was at a friend's place and it was the only ratchet he had and we were working on some project which had some bolts needing sorta-tightened. He had a bench vise and a ball peen hammer... I took the ratchet apart and with appropriate application of the vise and hammer I re-rounded the head of the ratchet, put it back together and it worked as good as it likely ever did. I told him he should go buy a good ratchet, use this POS only for stuff that's already loose. Don't use it for whatever he'd done that ovalized it.
This is a real shame. My family immigrated from Hungary in the early 1900s, most worked at Stanley in Connecticut after arriving in the U.S.. They were very proud of their employment their and I still have some of their old wrenches, chisels and such.
I bought my wife a Stanley tape measure, now she swears Stanley is a psychopathic liar because she knows I'm not packing anymore than a four inch barrel. She says she can tell by the heft of it.
when the ratchet block is in its center position it makes a perfect circle for the spring loaded detent thing to be able to spin all the way around. There's no reason for it to be a perfect circle since its two completely separate parts. If they'd just made the cavity that the thumb toggle piece sits in a slightly smaller diameter it would have taken the exact same machining steps and made both of those failures impossible.
@@fordfan3179 The formula for success is Income income income! What's that Durability? Quailty? Bankrupty? Leave that for the next round of bean counters!
Until you go to back out a fastener, realize something else has to come off first because the fastener runs into it, and you can't run it back in because the wrench is stuck on it and won't reverse.
Yeah, i ruined a pretty decent stanley ratched helping a friend out with the oxygen sensor on her jeep. It backed off into the frame and i was hoping it was short enough to wobble over out of the thread before hand, no such luck. it had the newer, full back end covering switch mechanism, which was butted up against the frame. When i tried to turn it in, it locked itself back to out mode and then it Really got bound up, so i played 200 pound gorrilla with it untill i managed to forcefully strip it out so i could hand wind the bolt back in.
I have that same set and I've had none of those problems using them on my cars. The benefit of that set is the large font with the tool size on the side. They are the entry level units for B&D-Stanley but still a fair set. My complaint is that they won't sell replacement single sockets.
That would turn into chimps & langurs at this rate.. they go like dance monkey dance, & we happily oblige! Their tunes ain't bangin, we gotta stop obliging
I've broken tools at 160 pounds, before I was 20. Same junk. Now I just break more expensive tools but it takes longer. I also break less of it, which causes me to get frustrated less. This junk surely would have had an issue with me very quickly, especially when I need to throw some type of cheater wrench or bar on it....
When I was about to turn 16 I used all my years of savings and bought a ratchet set/tool box combo from Kmart when they were doing the "Guaranteed Forever (unless we declare bankruptcy and cease to exist as a legal entity that is)" Benchtop Tools. The ratchet that originally came with it looked very similar and I almost immediately broke it. I took it back and they had already done a redesign and were putting completely different ratchets in the box. The fuckers tried to tell me I couldn't return it because they no longer had the same model number, so I hung out in the store making a scene until the store manager came over and told them to give the new one to me so I'd go away. Big box retail is still pretty skeezy but it was so much worse years ago. They'd kill their own grandma to make an extra 50 cents per unit back then. The new one was a really nice ratchet. Lasted me 20 years of wrenching on my own vehicles through every form of abuse I could throw at it before I broke some of the teeth off of that center gear from bashing on the handle with a hammer too many times. If you ever find a set of those with the slimmer headed teardrop ratchet in the box, she's a keeper. Sockets and hand wrenches are all still intact too. At least the ones I haven't lost are. Another really nice tool in that set was a 1/4" driver that had the shank go right through the handle with an option to use it as an extension if you couldn't turn the fastener by hand. Before the days I had cordless tools it made backing out fasteners a lot faster. Break it loose with the ratchet, pop it free and spin it out quick by hand but still with enough leverage to get past any shit built up on the threads. I pine away for another one just like it because I used the hell out of that one until the socket-detent ball eventually popped itself out of its bore and it won't hold sockets any more. I've got a cheapo one from Amazon now but it just ain't the same. It's made a lot cheaper. Another thing I liked to do with that thing was put the 1/4" hex bit adapter thing on there and use it to bash them down into a stubborn painted or rusted screw head (since the metal shaft went all the way through you could do that without smashing the handle off of it). Man I love a good hand tool.
That exact design of ratchet and internal mechanism has been used by at least nine brands through the years, that I’m aware of. I have a couple of Mastercraft Pro Series ratchets that are identical to that, I got them in ‘92. They’re very susceptible to locking up with the least little bit of grime getting into the internals.
Dr Avey, you're right! Laser etched is not a bug, it's a feature. I have the "same" set, used for automotive. I have two identical sets, one inherited from a professional used it in a shop for years without issue - occasionally with a 24" snipe. The one set started out black but is now silver. I haven't had any of the issues shown in your video. I enjoy the fact that they can be more easily taken apart than the retaining clip style. Might be worth trying to acid etch the laser etchings before the paint wears off. Some muriatic acid should do the trick. Just keep some baking soda on standby. I'd prefer stamped, but can't afford Snap-On or Gray, so I'll stick with the cheap Crappy Trash (CTC-A.TO) brands.
You would likely find that they look somewhat identical, it's just when these designers copied the good old designs they didn't understand the small nuances in dimensions that would have prevented these problems from occuring.
Look up Ko-Ken and have a look at the exploded view of their ratchets. Japanese made, forged steel sockets. Some of the best kit out there, especially the Z series
I have loads of them, they come with tungsten carbide insert lathe and milling tool holders. I must have about 30 in various sizes... mainly down the back of the lathe 😆
Thank you so much for this Video, I have the same ratchet set and it did the exact same thing, watching this allowed me to repair my ratchet, and now I will least know what happened and what to do to repair it when it happens again.
They have starting to introduce electric tools with the Stanley brand in the Netherlands, my first guess in build quality is the same as shown in this case.
We’ve had the Stanley brand in the UK for a few years ,I bought the impact driver three years ago ,it was on offer for £89 with 2 batteries and have abused it regularly it’s still going strong
We have them in Australia and they are much worse than the ratchets. We got a drill for work and it was shit to begin with, worst chuck i've ever encountered, you could get on there with a pipe wrench and it still wouldnt hold a drill bit. Died completely within not even 6 months of mainly occasional deburring use.
I had the same issue. I found that the little detent plate tends to slide if the pawl sticks. You can avoid this issue by making sure to keep these style ratchets free of heavy grease, a thin oil keeps them working well. The teeth of the pawl will stick with too much grease and oil. Or dirt.
I have the same set and no issues. I suspect user error, or just bad luck and grabbing a dud. There's no reason for the selector switch to have to move while cranking on a nut/bolt; Which is the only way that 1/2" drive would've failed.
@@TheDarthJesus it can easily happen that you switch it by accident wich also shouldn't be a problem happened to me a few times too but never messed up the ratchet actually, I never had a ratchet fail on me also, the mechanism stanley uses is really weird just had a look inside my cheap ratchet wich uses a solid piece of metal with a ball detent for the ratcheting action it's physically impossible for this to fail PN me on facebook and I can send you a picture
That is an outdated process flow. It is my understanding the current flow combines the drawings and QC. So when the intern signs off on the drawing, QC is also complete.
I've had an almost identical set for 7 years. I use it almost daily that's no joke. It's still working great. It jammed up once when the allan screws backed out a bit and the baseplate loosened. A little locktite and it's been good for years.
Stanley realised decades ago that they could trade on the brand, rather than quality. The sad fate of many brands and not just tools. German cars anyone?
i made it a point to stop into a Canadian tire whilst i was up north......... it was like walmart had been raped by farm and fleet and bastardly raised by best buy at someone else's shopping mall
Engineering professor, to Engineering student: "That's not your problem, that's the technician's problem." Short story from my life. I was an Engineering student (switched to business because my math wasn't up to snuff) in fall of 1998 at a community college that bragged about it's transfer program to a very reputable state school. Later joined the Marines and became a avionics technician. Anyway, during the Engineering Graphics class (fall semester) or Drafting 140 (spring semester) we were following along with the professor (a Engineer at one of the top 5 defense contractors local location) in the design of something in AutoCAD 2.0. I don't remember what we were "designing" but one of my classmates asked a question along the lines of, "How will you fix it if it breaks, you can't get in there to replace parts." And I $h*+ you not, the Engineer professors response (which I remember very clearly) was, "That's not your problem, that's the technician's problem". Since then, as a technician I've run into many things where clearly the Engineer thought, "That's not my problem, that's the technician's problem."
Mac tools being owned by stanley. Those pawls look awfully familiar. Had the same problem with the last generation mac ratchets. They updated it so they wouldn't go off alignment as badly. After the 8th replacement I sold my Mac ratchets.
What happens when you fire your engineer and hire a designer 😂😂
Good engineers are pricey. Designers are dime a dozen. It’s called capitalism.
There's a video of a extension cord built in a power plug held together by a bunch of rare earth magnets that rolls the cord and while testing the designers couldn't figure out why the thing kept being set ablaze until they hired engineers that basically called the designers insane. Start looking for engineering stuff in instagram and the algorithm will throw plenty of designers fever dreams on ya.
@@abrunosON link or name please
No joke. Often newer models of tools seem on average worse because only the really good ones last long enough to become antiques... but this crap is a solid fired your engineers for designers situation. It isn't even "cost optimized" situation because you can find dirt cheap no-name tools on AliExpress better than this.
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Crazy, I've had my harbor freight half inch drive for maybe like 10 years and it's never failed me. Best hammer I've ever bought.
@@scottadkin541 I think you missed the last sentence of the comment😂
Yeah. I've got a couple of those harbor freight composite rachets with like 80 teeth and they're going strong over 10 years later. i did lube them good when i first bought them though.
Nice
dude I broke the harbor freight half inch ratchet the 3rd day i had it
Thanks for the giggle
I think those are perfect tools to lend out to that friend that never returns anything.
Might be onto something here
Yeah send them to project farm.......😉😉😉
"You know what, here's a brand new toolset if you return the tools you've borrowed from me, IF I get all the tools I loaned you back"
Christmas bonuses.
That is actually an awesome idea. Then people will stop asking to borrow tools.
As a rule of thumb: The more pieces a set has, the shittier it will be.
Unless you get it from the snap-on truck.
@JSHuiting amen
When getting a new socket set I like to spot weld the 10mm socket to the bottom of the drawer.
You still can't use it, but at least you know where it is...
I have an issue where every socket and wrench turn into 15mm. I must have a dozen of those bad boys and can't find any other sizes.
🤣
There should be a wall dispenser for 10 mm sockets. Same with half inch.
Well I toss 10mm and 13 mm into trash bin. Never gonna need to worry I lose it.
@@GTAmaniac1 I thought it was just me! Except for that wrench that's 15mm on one end and 13mm on the other, which it always seems like I have 7 of when I need a 14mm
Stanley needs to know that millions of people have just been 'influenced'.
Well the last one your family bought has lasted for Generations sounds like a company that is going to die if we don't explode our population
I have a little Stanley toolset thats in a black box and that thing freaking rocks. I keep it in my jeep and I've used and abused it for 5 years (the guy before me had it for a few also). Maybe they changed the design or this guy got a shitty set. I know for sure Stanley will take it back and send you a new one
Straight into the sun with the lot of em.
@@errhka I also have a 15 year old plastic molded 100+ toolkit I keep in the truck. Works great, and has been used many times over the years.
A few sockets chipped off the chrome a little, but that is only on the pretty side, not the working side.
@Marc Thomas Sheffield steel still has good tools made. Properly... Not cheap though
I’m a grown man, never had issues opening a pickle jar, and yet I can’t get some of these sockets out of their slot to save my life. Good to keep a flat head screwdriver handy
Modern Engineering: "How can we take solid designs that lasted decades and redesign them to last 10's of minutes and get the customer to think it their fault when things break?"
i think this was both design and user error... the user used it in the wrong grip and a design failure cause his use of it in the wrong grip to find a flaw in that when the lever is actuated while you are tightening it the lever for lack of proper design has the room to push past the ratchet mechanism and into a non functional area.
solution don't do that or replace the skate with a slightly altered design with a ridge at either side with detents.
To some degree, you are correct to think that planned obsolescence is a thing.
To another degree, you, as the consumer, are at fault, because you demand the cheapest tool you can have.
Don't believe me? Then why did Craftsman switch from American made to Chinese manufacture? Because Harbor Freight, that's why.
The designers and engineers would, left to their own devices, come up with excellent tools that would last a lifetime, but that would mean a few cents less per sale to the shareholders, and they're the ones calling the shots.
@@jutde because profits, that's why. Normal people were still buying Craftsman, they just weren't going to Sears because their prices on everything else were a scam...
And why wasn't it profitable? Too top heavy!
China = no thank you
Gotta read the asterisk on the packaging “for display purposes only”
I had the exact same problem w/ my Stanley 3/8 drive ratchet before - did some searching on Amazon and someone else found the cause and solution. I tried searching for it again but couldn't find it but I saved the text, copy and paste below: "A few uses and they lock up, you can't switch them and they don't spin anymore. What I found is that the shift lever is a tenth of a millimeter too far away from the drive gear, which when the ratchet is under stress allows the spring to extend far enough that it jams the claw to the side, locking the ratchet. A quick reassembly with a T9 torx screwdriver fixes this problem, but the next time the ratchet is stressed it will happen again. I've added a shim to the rear of the shift lever, pushing it forward just a tiny bit, and the problem hasn't happened since. If the manufacturing specs were a little tighter, this wouldn't be an issue.". You video shown exact this at 6:42 - the problematic part is the piece with "12" stamp on it and where the claw goes. I found it's actually better to tape the circular part/back of the piece (with "12" stamp on it) using electrical tape so it pushes the piece forward. My ratchet didn't jam since.
If you listen closely, you can hear the ghosts of all the chickens he's choked over the years.
Underrated comment
Absolutely perfect. 11/10
@@hotshtsr20 Thankyou for the a-palling joke tools comments.
I thought maybe "she who must be obeyed" was throwing a hen party.
Yup, my coffee is now on the table and in my nose
what makes this even funnier is how old school good brands are turning to shit and harbor fright is coming out with "pro-ish" tools
Everything averages out, and snap on charges 3x what the currently charge for real tools.
Only thing I can say for snap on is their hand tools rock and so does their service
Chinese manufacturers have only steadily gotten better, while American manufacturers have only gotten progressively more lazy and poor quality (if they haven't already shipped out to China or some other country with cheap labor).
@@duckslayer92 yeah but the professional series from harbor freight is sadly on par, I've seen several test with the harbor freight torque wrench actually being more consistent then the snap on, and unfortunately when I can buy an 25-30mm deep impact socket set with the same warranty for less then a single socket it's hard to justify the price difference. And I grew up using nothing but quality american tools, snap on and craftsman primarily. Sadly I won't ever give craftsman another penny, the day I saw on the shelf in a sears a standard socket set with made in the usa and right next to it is a bunch of newly stocked sets of the same set for the same price but missing the made in usa, searched around the box and in fine print in the corner made in china
@@venumus1 ouch.
I love the growing AvE cinematic universe cast
I'll stick to yard sale 50+ year old tools.
Same here , Some may be a bit worn but some lube and they are back to work! Unlike these new metallic "hammers".
Problem is trying to find a complete set, in a handy case.
Just remember that in 50 year time there will be these Stanleys
@@feedbackzaloop 50 years from now No one will know how to use tools. It will be a hammer, a screw driver or a robot.
now that's a wise decision
and even if it's just an oldschool Stahlwille ratchet by itself, that's gonna be a tool that'll outlast your grandkids
Imagine spending your hard earned monopoly money on a ratchet that breaks before it even gets a whiff of the cheater bar... a crying shame.
I had one of these fail the moment i put a cheater bar on. Just in time to smack myself in the face with a cast iron pipe when the pawl shattered.
I got a set of husky PRO at HD
DAMN NEAR 20 YEARS AGO
those bastards are still trucking and have seen tons of use almost daily and many many cheater bars
@@dbillionaer I bought a set of craftsman tools when they were still available at sears, about 10 yrs ago. I still use them a lot, maan Crapsman has really turn into its name.
i dont use a cheater bar on a ratchet. that's not the right tool. i have a long ass 1/2" breaker bar that's made for that type of thing.
@@andrewdonohue1853 you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes 💯 🤷
I bought a Stanley ratchet set at Costco thirty something years ago for 79.99, three drivers and full SAE/metric sizes.. Never had a problem. People wonder why I am so protective of them... they don't understand how hard (read expensive) it would be to replace them with similar quality these days.
There are two modern sets. One is made in China. The other is made in Taiwan. One guess on which is vastly superior. Hint: The Taiwanese set is chromed.
Those chickens in the background sound like the finance department at my work.
I remember back in high school learning about tools. I'm sure a lot of you will say that is kind of "late" to learn about tools. But anyway, our instructor taught us lots of useful tips and tricks that I still use today. He was a smart man and I owe him a lot. One of the things he taught us was how to use tools properly. When it comes to tools with moving parts, particularly ratchets, He taught us not to just wing the tool back and forth through its range of motion and expect it to last. Alternating between applying force and resetting requires a certain length of time not afforded by quick movement. He said "Give it time before applying full force again". And "Apply force gradually to make sure teeth are fully engaged". I know some tools are designed in a way that malfunctions are much less likely to occur in this situation, but I still do it that way. It has become a habit for me. I have worked with dozens of guys and the majority of them do things in the "wing it back and forth" method. They all leave a string of broken tools and other destruction behind them. I also know that no grown ass man wants to be told that they don't know the proper way to use the simplest of hand tools. And that hard earned money spent for tools goes with some expectation of the tool doing its job. I'm not saying the tools in this video were used improperly, because obviously, I wasn't there. I'm only putting out there what I see every day.
I have the exact same set, exact same problem. Can I borrow your dynamite?
Me too
I have an old set, some fuckwit broke the 1/2 ratchet. The replacement is one of these. Protip a cheap ass harbor freight fits in the case.
Call stanley, free replacement
@@thezapman420 ...with another that's just as bad if not worse.
@@John_Ridley That's the problem I ended up with in my Craftsman stuff years ago. No point in warrantying it anymore. Just replace it with higher quality when it dies.
Even the chickens got spooked by the horrors you've seen.
Spooked or mad at the bad tools...
It laid an egg, they cluck like that when they lay
Those damn homeless man gloves get me every time lmaooo
aren't those standard cotton work gloves with the tips chopped off?? haha
Living up north is cold, ya dunce.
Hobo gloves are a necessity for working on things in the cold
Between the start of the video and the end the 1/4" 10mm socket has pulled a Houdini!!
The 1/2" 17mm was already gone! Some of the most elusive sizes, at least for us metrics guys.
What's a 10mm socket? LOL
it doesn't even matter because if you actually can find the 10mm socket.. you will immediately need 2 at once for the nut on the backside and you are short one 10mm all over again..
10mm is too small for anything
16mm 5/8 19mm amd 3/4 in the elusive sizes that only exist for a short period
@@martyjackson4806
It's a sloppy 3/8".
Thanks to the endless repetition of home alone movies this time of year, ave's fingerless gloves made me think of Harry and Marv 🤣
Can't remember the comedy bit but goes something like you were describing:
"I don't even have to use it, just buy it and throw it in the garbage!"
You miss the point, it is single use, then throw it away. This helps prevent the spread of diseases.
This channel should be mandatory viewing for every engineer in every industry.
The engineers knew this product sucked. The money men told them it has to suck to fit the budget!
Us software engineers also trickle in to see what wisdom is available.
There needs to be something like the "AvE Mechanical Stupidity Regulatory Commission " to protect consumers from getting screwed by awful tool designs
It would be interesting to see the videos of the planned obsolescence classes.
You don't have to make it mandatory, the true enginerds will watch it williningly.
"NOT your grand-dad's Stanley."
Definitely not!
Black coating, so if you aren't in direct sunlight, they become invisible.
and if you are in direct sunlight they reach 80% of the suns core temperature
Nothing a roll of yellow electrical tape can't fix.
@@iamarawn I just don't buy em. No wasting tape on junk tools....
@@ShainAndrews I was going to mention that. They get hot as hell. Like burn your damn hand hot.
Well of course it needs a coating of tactical black. How else you gonna get the COD kids, now turned adult, to buy your sodding tools?
Build Quality?
The ladies auxiliary is loud in the background
I can confirm stanley ratchets have a mind of their own with the direction they want to turn. It's almost always opposite of what you want.
Now you know why I buy used hand tools at estate and garage sales. That is also where I go to meet women. Same theory applies.
They're ok, once you get past the worn spot? 😉
@John Smith spit my drink out thats hilarious
Why not marry the widow? Then you don't have to move your new tools!
Used tools and used women, all in one spot.
Nothing better, got a full set of Hilka (original made in japan stuff) for £12, barely used too which is the important part.
Sounds like he is watching the view in the background
My God I hope not gives me the runs every time I hear those women voices
@@philliplapkovitch311
Today I yelled to my son...Feed those "Damn chicken's," that Constant Clucking is driving me Insane! He yelled back I already did, Mom's watching the View...
Nah, that'd be the hog pen
AvE I would like to thank you for happy memories with my brother.
A few years ago we were talking about RUclips channels we liked.
He started talking about this Canadian engineer he really liked.
As he kept talking I asked "Is that AvE?"
He said "Yes, that's the guy!"
We would spend many hours talking about your vijeyos.
As time went on that seemed to be the only thing we had in common.
My Bro had a masters degree from an Ivy League institution.
I had an associates degree from a college of little importance.
He had jobs instructing the youth of tomorrow.
I built circuit boards for contactors, maintained radios and vehicles for police and fire departments and installed cable TV until I was crippled in a car accident.
Then my brother quit his job when his wife told him he should if it didn't make him happy.
Then she quit him because he didn't make her happy.
Then he slowly lost his mind.
I found him dead a few days after his birthday.
Thanks for giving us one last thing to laugh about.
Keep your dick in a vice.
Christ man, that got heavy real quick. My condolences
Sir, this is a Wendy’s
It turned into a breaker bar nice feature.
And that's how The Dewclaw managed to get on to a second list.
Nobody is on the list if we're all on the list.
@@Broken_Yugo there's folks you know... who're not on the list.. I ain't got nothing to do with them though, so to hell with them xD
Santa's?
I have a hard time believing he is only on two lists.
@@joshk.6246 yup. Both of them. The Dewclaw is a complicated man.
I love that set & use it everyday at work on my service truck. Never used the ratchets I only use the sockets. My snap on & gear wrench ratchets are my go to. Find a portable tool set with the assortment of sockets that compares to the price. Best assortment with 1/4”,3/8”,1/2” deep/shallow metric standard. But what do I know I’ve been a mechanic for 40 years.
Thank you for the reassurance on my upcoming purchase tomorrow due to my stolen tools while broken down in my van that my Works front gate
I noticed he had a socket between 9mm and 11mm, never seen one of them before.
The other day I opened my “spare tool” drawer and found 5 12-point 10mm sockets. Every time I go to the flea market I look for 6-point ones, of course, but they must all be in another dimension.
@@blacksquirrel4008 two things I can never find, a date and my 10mm socket.
Every one always steals the 13mm and the 10mm always gets lost
They're pretty rare, as evidenced by the fact that it was lost by the end of the video.
@@biofall38 I thought it was just me lol
when planned obsolescence kicks in sooner than it should
I tried to return a Craftsman wrench once and Sears refused so I only buy Stanley now for the last tweenty years. I've personally never had a problem with them. They are my favorite tools .🤔
The trick is losing the tools faster than they break. I've got a set in my tuck, half of it's gone but at least they aint broke!
"Make it black, it will look tactical" say the designer hot shots...
I'm waiting for the poor bastard that goes black = impact and then blows up a socket in their face.
Make it harder to find when dropped into a dark area.
Needs a rail to attach the laser sight!
Makes it easier to find when you're wrenching late at night on some poorly lit jobsite.
I hate black socket sets. Black is for impact tools. Chrome is for everything else.
I suspect that a lot of people, like me, would buy a pretty complete Stanley set on sale at Canadian Tire just to have when the occasion for use comes up. They would sit unused for quite some time. Perhaps Stanley knows this.
My boss has almost the same set. The blow molded case has a death grip on all of its contents so tight you need a 6' crowbar to get any of the sockets out. Also the ratchet mechanisms are so tight they won't do any ratcheting on any fastener that isn't already seated.
I second the death grip. I took the grinder to those plastic bullshit tabs
@@boonehelm7271 DEATH GRIP, TOTALLY AGREE.
Got a DeWalt drill bit set like that. It's almost impossible to remove or insert the drill bits in the case. Coincidentally it's also really cheep and low quality. (Recently replaced it with a set from Makita and the difference is night and day, not only do the drills come out the case without breaking your finger nails the drills are also much sharper, meanwhile the DeWalt bits would take multiple pecks to get through oak and would be smoking while doing it, coincidentally this set also had the worst countersink bit I have ever seen, it's so dull that it more or less burns it's way into wood rather than actually cutting)
That looks like an old Proto ratchet which Stanley owns so I guess making them on the cheap is a bad idea. Sad to see them ruin a good name.
My 35 year old Proto rachet did the same thing.
Stanley was never a good name.
@@Paulman50 Stanley used to be a brand that was great for handyman use. In my lifetime they were never considered "professional" or "industrial" grade
Welcome to made in china.stanley sold production to china.every time beancounters take over and run in the business.
As soon as you pulled apart the first one I knew what you'd find in the second one. My guess is it happened to the first one as well and its the same pall so it has more room to move so it came clean out allowing the thumb lever to move past it as well. You're right in that the meat matters, in this case they skimped on the thickness of the pall.
So disappointing that the integrity of these names disappears over time through buyouts and takeovers and downsizing and all that. At some point some fuck knuckle comes along that doesn't care and isn't content with making some money and tries to make more money before he dies or the brand dies, whichever comes first matters not.
Pro Tip: If it comes packaged in a fisher price toolbox, don't buy it.
40 years ago, my socket set came in one big cardboard box with nothing but a picture on it. lol no bells, no whistles and no decoration, it's still going all these years later.
@@frotobaggins7169 I remember those days.. I'd get mine on sale in paper bags.. Still have most of them -- not sure where the 10mm went..
Typical modern tools! They look like Batman's tool set. Black, sleek & shiny. But they don't actually work!
only Catwoman knows for sure...
....kind of like movie Batman tools....
Batman's tool set is not black. Unless they've come out with a new "all-inclusive" batman movie. Like they did with Annie, Spiderman, and the next James Bond.
@@littlejackalo5326 I've only read the comics & seen the sixties TV show so I have no idea if they even showed a tool set in the films... If that's what you're saying?
Buy chinese now. They're too cheap to "innovate" so they at least work.
I have a tool set like this by Crescent with the same style of ratchets and they're beasts. Really fine teeth and super solid mechanism that doesn't wobble around.
I've stomped on the 3/8 ratchet to get lug nuts off. I'm only bringing this up because it was CHEAPER than the Stanley kit and nothing has broken in the 6 years Ive owned it.
The missing 10mm socket at the end is a nice touch
I got a set of those to keep in my truck. Same exact problem. Gabage!
I found a set at a garage sale. Filled the case with other stuff. Good enough for a truck box
I was given a set of these about 5 years ago and they certainly seize up. I keep a bucket of old transmission oil and drop them in there for a few days whenever they lock up. They seem to always come back to life. Great for lending to the kids and not care if they ever return.
Ask Dewclaw ifn' he was choochin' an impact driver on the other side when the socket drive shat out. Perhaps vibration matched the resonant frequency of the detent or one of the overtones. (Picture a vibratory lock pick.) Note: I had to use Google Translate from English to Canuckinstan for parts of this post. I hope I nailed it.
Stanley isn’t the Stanley it used to be. They have completely ruined Craftsman.
😁😆😂🤣
While Stanley sure didn't help things, Eddie Lampert ruined Craftsman before Stanley ever bought them.
Craftsman flushed itself down the toilet and came out in China decades before Stanley got involved.
Craftsman had been ruined before Stanley bought the name. If Eddie Lampert hadn't already ruined the Craftsman name, Stanley wouldn't have been able to afford to buy it.
Craftsman ruined craftsman
My guess is that he pushed the selector while the ratchet was under load. I think the load would hold the pawl in place and allow the spring loaded detent to be pushed off the end of the pawl. It's the only way I can imagine that happened, and explains there being no damage to any of the parts.
And easy experiment, try it and see if it lets you do it.
At least he got a bunch of sockets to use in a workshop press.
It's spelt shrapnel
" At least he got a bunch of SHRAPNEL to detonate in a workshop press" 🤣
Stanley went the way of craftsman....... they aren’t even worth scrap metal prices these days
Stanley now owns the Craftsman name, lol.... and yes, I agree.... both brands were once great names in the tool world, they are now both utter garbage, unfortunately.
I have a 30 year old Craftsman 1/4" drive ratchet that get torqued on and abused regularly. Still like brand new.
@@misplacedcaper9662
Of course.... 30 years ago Craftsman was made in the USA by various quality manufacturers. Old Craftsman tools are great!
@@SlipFitGarage Yes, they are. I pick em up at yard sales any chance I can get. (Back in the day where yard sales were a thing around here...)
Like Polaroid and lots of other "name brand" stuff, Stanley is just a name that is bought and sold and placed on everything.
I’ve had similar issues with my Stanley set. Sure, the warranty covered my issues but it’s unacceptable when you shear the drive off a 1/4” ratchet and it takes 6 whole months for the replacement to arrive. I’m pretty sure I’ve broken more Stanley tools than I can count on my two hands
I have a SK 3/8, used almost daily for 43 yrs. Chrome is worn, never been apart. Works like day 1.
SK ookum
That design defect would literally have been found with 10 minutes of quality control testing. Although maybe its their new theft deterrent system.
But instead, they just go to some offshore supplier and select what color scheme and etching they want on the wrenches. 0 fucks given.
LOL
problem found... 9min tests
Having had my share of issues with ratchets over the years, I've noticed 1 standout fault- the user. I learned that you should break the bolt with a strongarm and then use the ratchet, saves a lot of situations that would otherwise have gone pear shaped.
Somewhat correct; ratchets have torque limits. The subject ratchets didn't fail from excessive stress, per se. The gears / teeth are not stripped or galled as would be the case if over stressed.
It's a $100 set of tools.
Go figure. I have that same set-for my kids and neighbors to borrow. I keep them away from my GOOD tools...
Good call.
Shhhhhhh. Don't tell the teenagers watching this channel. Let them learn why we fight the corpo scumbags in good time
@@jebshutz1377 lol!
I’ve noticed on these high tooth count ratchets, even the “better” made ones, until they wear in, they don’t operate very smoothly
The short throw is nice, but not at the expense of dependability.
Yeah I used to work somewhere and they'd never buy new tools, it was horrendous. One guys job just to repair, impacts, ratchets...etc. absolutely sucked. Great money though. Brought it a few of my own tools just to make they day easier
My thought on those is don't buy them unless you actually need to. 72 tooth is plenty for 95% of jobs.
I dunno. Snap-on is pretty good right outa the box. I use mine every day for work.
@@punk105 I once fixed a super cheap ratchet that was so cheap the hole in the head had gotten bent into an oval. Was at a friend's place and it was the only ratchet he had and we were working on some project which had some bolts needing sorta-tightened. He had a bench vise and a ball peen hammer... I took the ratchet apart and with appropriate application of the vise and hammer I re-rounded the head of the ratchet, put it back together and it worked as good as it likely ever did. I told him he should go buy a good ratchet, use this POS only for stuff that's already loose. Don't use it for whatever he'd done that ovalized it.
This is a real shame. My family immigrated from Hungary in the early 1900s, most worked at Stanley in Connecticut after arriving in the U.S.. They were very proud of their employment their and I still have some of their old wrenches, chisels and such.
I have a 15 year old Stanley ratchet that failed just like one of these. They've been garbage for a while.
I bought my wife a Stanley tape measure, now she swears Stanley is a psychopathic liar because she knows I'm not packing anymore than a four inch barrel. She says she can tell by the heft of it.
Should have gotten metrique, their inches are packed tighter together fridnd.
@@E1nsty , yeah but 5.1" rounds up to 6" whereas only 13 cm...
@@E1nsty It sounds bigger if you say it in millimeters.
I always thought auto reverse was a crapsman feature
sounds like your breakfast laying machines are getting a bit vocal
Thats the sound of a fresh breakfast was just deposited
Yard parrots!
when the ratchet block is in its center position it makes a perfect circle for the spring loaded detent thing to be able to spin all the way around. There's no reason for it to be a perfect circle since its two completely separate parts. If they'd just made the cavity that the thumb toggle piece sits in a slightly smaller diameter it would have taken the exact same machining steps and made both of those failures impossible.
It's amazing how they had something that worked just fine for year, then go in and screw things up.
That's what happens to a good tool company when the fn bean counters get involved in the design.
Seriously, what happened to " durability and quality" being part of the formula for success?
@@fordfan3179 The formula for success is Income income income! What's that Durability? Quailty? Bankrupty? Leave that for the next round of bean counters!
@@hdezn26 sad but true.
Which company are you referring to?.
Stanley were never great but they bought everybody else out to level the playing field.
Stanley ain't what it used to be. Hard Hittin' New Britain has lost its prominence.
"I'm pretty sure you can't say that anymore " lolol
Slightly off-topic: Why do pass-thru ratchets often still have a directional switch? Can´t one just flip it?
Until you go to back out a fastener, realize something else has to come off first because the fastener runs into it, and you can't run it back in because the wrench is stuck on it and won't reverse.
Yeah, i ruined a pretty decent stanley ratched helping a friend out with the oxygen sensor on her jeep. It backed off into the frame and i was hoping it was short enough to wobble over out of the thread before hand, no such luck. it had the newer, full back end covering switch mechanism, which was butted up against the frame. When i tried to turn it in, it locked itself back to out mode and then it Really got bound up, so i played 200 pound gorrilla with it untill i managed to forcefully strip it out so i could hand wind the bolt back in.
@@Cee1019 Next time loosen the opposite side motor mount and jack the engine to tip that side down. Better yet, avoid a next time.
@@kevinsellsit5584 ill take both and hope i only live to appeciate option 2
"Another fine mess you've gotten us into Stanly"..Laurel & Hardy...
Why don't you be more careful ?
I have that same set and I've had none of those problems using them on my cars. The benefit of that set is the large font with the tool size on the side. They are the entry level units for B&D-Stanley but still a fair set. My complaint is that they won't sell replacement single sockets.
you have warranty life time
@@Tonyk24 it's funny, they will make a warranty claim good but won't sell you singles from the set.
@@Tonyk24 they will make good on the warranty, but they won't sell you an individual socket
they're only rated for 180 pound gorillas.
That would turn into chimps & langurs at this rate.. they go like dance monkey dance, & we happily oblige! Their tunes ain't bangin, we gotta stop obliging
I've broken tools at 160 pounds, before I was 20. Same junk. Now I just break more expensive tools but it takes longer. I also break less of it, which causes me to get frustrated less. This junk surely would have had an issue with me very quickly, especially when I need to throw some type of cheater wrench or bar on it....
Surprised you were able to find that spring at 2:09 after it was transported to the shadow realm.
looked like a magic trick...
When I was about to turn 16 I used all my years of savings and bought a ratchet set/tool box combo from Kmart when they were doing the "Guaranteed Forever (unless we declare bankruptcy and cease to exist as a legal entity that is)" Benchtop Tools. The ratchet that originally came with it looked very similar and I almost immediately broke it. I took it back and they had already done a redesign and were putting completely different ratchets in the box. The fuckers tried to tell me I couldn't return it because they no longer had the same model number, so I hung out in the store making a scene until the store manager came over and told them to give the new one to me so I'd go away. Big box retail is still pretty skeezy but it was so much worse years ago. They'd kill their own grandma to make an extra 50 cents per unit back then. The new one was a really nice ratchet. Lasted me 20 years of wrenching on my own vehicles through every form of abuse I could throw at it before I broke some of the teeth off of that center gear from bashing on the handle with a hammer too many times. If you ever find a set of those with the slimmer headed teardrop ratchet in the box, she's a keeper.
Sockets and hand wrenches are all still intact too. At least the ones I haven't lost are. Another really nice tool in that set was a 1/4" driver that had the shank go right through the handle with an option to use it as an extension if you couldn't turn the fastener by hand. Before the days I had cordless tools it made backing out fasteners a lot faster. Break it loose with the ratchet, pop it free and spin it out quick by hand but still with enough leverage to get past any shit built up on the threads. I pine away for another one just like it because I used the hell out of that one until the socket-detent ball eventually popped itself out of its bore and it won't hold sockets any more. I've got a cheapo one from Amazon now but it just ain't the same. It's made a lot cheaper. Another thing I liked to do with that thing was put the 1/4" hex bit adapter thing on there and use it to bash them down into a stubborn painted or rusted screw head (since the metal shaft went all the way through you could do that without smashing the handle off of it). Man I love a good hand tool.
You could try cheering up Dooclaw by telling him, a poor tradesman blames his tools. 🤣
"I will pull out my receipt."
Ron Howard Narrator Voice: "He will not pull out his receipt."
That exact design of ratchet and internal mechanism has been used by at least nine brands through the years, that I’m aware of. I have a couple of Mastercraft Pro Series ratchets that are identical to that, I got them in ‘92. They’re very susceptible to locking up with the least little bit of grime getting into the internals.
0:35
Dewclaw: "...I was cranking along"
AVE: *laughs under his breath*
Never a dull moment.
Fortunate that the Stanley toolset contains the tools to fix their tools
Dr Avey, you're right! Laser etched is not a bug, it's a feature. I have the "same" set, used for automotive. I have two identical sets, one inherited from a professional used it in a shop for years without issue - occasionally with a 24" snipe. The one set started out black but is now silver. I haven't had any of the issues shown in your video. I enjoy the fact that they can be more easily taken apart than the retaining clip style. Might be worth trying to acid etch the laser etchings before the paint wears off. Some muriatic acid should do the trick. Just keep some baking soda on standby. I'd prefer stamped, but can't afford Snap-On or Gray, so I'll stick with the cheap Crappy Trash (CTC-A.TO) brands.
would love to see that side by side with a "good" ratchet mechanism...
You would likely find that they look somewhat identical, it's just when these designers copied the good old designs they didn't understand the small nuances in dimensions that would have prevented these problems from occuring.
Yes, will be nice and very informative and educational!
Look up Ko-Ken and have a look at the exploded view of their ratchets.
Japanese made, forged steel sockets. Some of the best kit out there, especially the Z series
@@spicywolf6718 Cheers mate!
What brand of torx drivers did you use for the disassembly? That flat handle looks very grandpa friendly.
I have loads of them, they come with tungsten carbide insert lathe and milling tool holders. I must have about 30 in various sizes... mainly down the back of the lathe 😆
They're called flag handle drivers, and most decent brands have some in their lineup.
@@jb1555 Wiha! Thanks
Thank you so much for this Video, I have the same ratchet set and it did the exact same thing, watching this allowed me to repair my ratchet, and now I will least know what happened and what to do to repair it when it happens again.
Have 2 of these sets. They dont mind replacing them every few weeks when i snap one.
They have starting to introduce electric tools with the Stanley brand in the Netherlands, my first guess in build quality is the same as shown in this case.
We’ve had the Stanley brand in the UK for a few years ,I bought the impact driver three years ago ,it was on offer for £89 with 2 batteries and have abused it regularly it’s still going strong
We have them in Australia and they are much worse than the ratchets. We got a drill for work and it was shit to begin with, worst chuck i've ever encountered, you could get on there with a pipe wrench and it still wouldnt hold a drill bit. Died completely within not even 6 months of mainly occasional deburring use.
I had the same issue. I found that the little detent plate tends to slide if the pawl sticks. You can avoid this issue by making sure to keep these style ratchets free of heavy grease, a thin oil keeps them working well. The teeth of the pawl will stick with too much grease and oil. Or dirt.
I sure hope that Stanley sees this and they finally get their act together
I don't know what happened, but they only produce junk now
If you believe that, I got a bridge I'll sell you.
@@greg9403 wat?
@@nathanwest2304
If you believe Stanley would make a change. Poor copy of a good quality tool.
I have the same set and no issues.
I suspect user error, or just bad luck and grabbing a dud.
There's no reason for the selector switch to have to move while cranking on a nut/bolt; Which is the only way that 1/2" drive would've failed.
@@TheDarthJesus it can easily happen that you switch it by accident wich also shouldn't be a problem
happened to me a few times too but never messed up the ratchet
actually, I never had a ratchet fail on me
also, the mechanism stanley uses is really weird
just had a look inside my cheap ratchet wich uses a solid piece of metal with a ball detent for the ratcheting action
it's physically impossible for this to fail
PN me on facebook and I can send you a picture
When the intern is allowed to sign off on drawings and QC
^^^ Now here’s a company whose affordable tools actually don’t suck. Love me some Astro. 👍
That is an outdated process flow. It is my understanding the current flow combines the drawings and QC. So when the intern signs off on the drawing, QC is also complete.
HOLY SH**! Hahaha. Astro is at it again.
@@ShainAndrews So streamlined! The bosses will love it!
I've had an almost identical set for 7 years. I use it almost daily that's no joke. It's still working great. It jammed up once when the allan screws backed out a bit and the baseplate loosened. A little locktite and it's been good for years.
Stanley realised decades ago that they could trade on the brand, rather than quality. The sad fate of many brands and not just tools. German cars anyone?
Ol dewclaw was just crankin it. I could hear those chickens chokin
i made it a point to stop into a Canadian tire whilst i was up north......... it was like walmart had been raped by farm and fleet and bastardly raised by best buy at someone else's shopping mall
I’ve had good luck with a 3/8 set from Cresent in a grey case. Nice cheap set for my work truck.
Not been the same since they made them here in Sheffield... The factory is still derelict, sad times
Engineering professor, to Engineering student: "That's not your problem, that's the technician's problem."
Short story from my life.
I was an Engineering student (switched to business because my math wasn't up to snuff) in fall of 1998 at a community college that bragged about it's transfer program to a very reputable state school. Later joined the Marines and became a avionics technician. Anyway, during the Engineering Graphics class (fall semester) or Drafting 140 (spring semester) we were following along with the professor (a Engineer at one of the top 5 defense contractors local location) in the design of something in AutoCAD 2.0. I don't remember what we were "designing" but one of my classmates asked a question along the lines of, "How will you fix it if it breaks, you can't get in there to replace parts." And I $h*+ you not, the Engineer professors response (which I remember very clearly) was, "That's not your problem, that's the technician's problem".
Since then, as a technician I've run into many things where clearly the Engineer thought, "That's not my problem, that's the technician's problem."
Pretty fu c k ed up.
Mac tools being owned by stanley. Those pawls look awfully familiar. Had the same problem with the last generation mac ratchets. They updated it so they wouldn't go off alignment as badly. After the 8th replacement I sold my Mac ratchets.
So Mac attack...