#46 - Easy wiring for lights etc and layout update

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
  • Building LeisureWorld Model Railway

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  • @charlie1872
    @charlie1872 2 года назад +1

    Really well done and very ingirmative. Thanks for taking the time to orepare and post this, I know what it takes. Thanks for sharing and your buildings are fabulous👍

  • @paulcosentino7032
    @paulcosentino7032 9 месяцев назад

    Many thanks for this video, this is by far the best on how to add lighting that I have seen . I was daunted at the prospect of adding lights to my diorama having no electrical experience but this method makes it so easy and its also very cost effective .

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  9 месяцев назад

      Glad to be of help - If you talk to the guy at Layouts4U.net then he can tell you all about the circuit boards and the correct power plug that goes with them - he sells both, along with the white connectors. You can also daisy chain two boards and power both from one power plug if you need a lot of connections.
      Very easy to do - I have no electrical experience either and this is my first and only model railway build, but I have managed to provide power to many things on my layout using this method.

    • @paulcosentino7032
      @paulcosentino7032 9 месяцев назад

      @@LeisureWorldModelRailway ... Yes, I ordered all the gear from him after I saw your video (which I mentioned), already have half of my diorama lit 😀. Your layout is amazing by the way...like a mini miniature wonderland and a pinball to boot ! I am jealous lol

  • @HemelDownModelRailway
    @HemelDownModelRailway 2 года назад

    Useful bit of kit and definitely will be on my list thanks to this demonstration, nice and simple to set up thanks for sharing 👍🏻

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  2 года назад +1

      No probs - great to hear it was helpful. If you have further questions, feel free to ask me.

  • @medwaymodelrailway7129
    @medwaymodelrailway7129 2 года назад

    Very nice upload you put together thanks for sharing.

  • @user-pn7tu5qk4m
    @user-pn7tu5qk4m 7 месяцев назад +1

    great video, very helpful, can i ask what the name of your plug adaptor so i can order one, thanks, steve

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  7 месяцев назад +1

      The plug adapters I use for the board are also from layouts4u along with the board itself - its all on their web site. They are 12v DC and either 1amp or 3amps - It depends on the load, but a few lights does not use much amperage at all.
      Layouts4u will be able to advise you on this.

  • @manutd3800
    @manutd3800 Месяц назад

    Fantastic that is a absolutely great display jealous of the layout. Can I ask Where do you put the resistors on the lamppost do you only use the positive wire only to connect the resistor.

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  Месяц назад

      Yes - you only connect a resistor to the positive wire - nothing required on the negative wire.
      Assuming you're in the UK there are two good suppliers of lighted products - Layouts4U.net and Kytes Lights.
      Both will offer advice on wiring and will sell appropriate resistors for the required lighted product. Many offer resistors with the light and in the case of Layouts4u (not sure about Kytes Lights) they offer pre-soldered products so the resistor is already attached for you making it really easy.
      Cheers Rob - Up the reds - come on Utd. 🙂

  • @user-yd9cc6xz3q
    @user-yd9cc6xz3q 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the great video. I am a complete newbie with dc wiring, so after ordering and receiving the distribution panel described in your video, I am now ready to plan out my set's lighting. One question however.... If I want to use toggle switches to be able to readily turn lights on and off, and if I am using 4 - 12 volt lights within each port, can I combine two or three ports to one toggle switch (essentially controlling 8 - 12 lights)? I am concerned that this might create too much voltage coming out of the switch and cause the 12 volt lights to fry. Thanks for any help from you or your subscribers!

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hi - It should be fine to use a toggle switch with multiple lights attached. The important thing is to ensure each light has a 12v DC resistor attached to the + positive wire of EACH light. No resistor on a light = blown light !!!
      If you don't have resistors already attached to you lights then unfortunately you will need to get some and solder one to each lights positive wire.
      Layouts4U.Net sell resistors and also pre-wired 12v DC lights with resistors already soldered on, for this purpose.
      I strongly suggest you give the guy there a call and he can advise on all things electrical as he is the expert.
      Good luck - Rob.

    • @user-yd9cc6xz3q
      @user-yd9cc6xz3q 5 месяцев назад

      Sorry for yet another question.... In searching for 12v DC resistors, it appears that they are not categorized by volts, but by ohms. How would I calculate such in this situation (i.e. if I run 3 ports from the power distributor to one toggle switch, how many ohms would I require for a resistor if the power distributor is set for 12 volts?). Thanks again for any help.

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  5 месяцев назад

      Sorry, don't know the answer to that question. I am not and electronics expert either.
      I buy most of my lights (including vehicle led lights) from www.Layouts4U.net and they all come pre-wired with resistors attached.
      Other than my lights, my other lighted / animated items are already made for 12v DC. (In fact the Viessmann e-Motion items recommend 14-16v), but seem to work find when connected to the boards.
      Therefore I have not had to purchase an resistors separately.
      Once again - I would suggest you telephone the guy at Layouts4U and ask him what is required and he can make sure you purchase the correct items.
      Alternately buy a pack of leds/smds pre-wired for 12v from layouts4u - a pack of 5 is about £6 and then take the resistors off these and re-use them.
      But I recommend you give them a call and discuss your requirements and he can tell you what you need. That's how I started.

  • @user-pn7tu5qk4m
    @user-pn7tu5qk4m 7 месяцев назад

    very good video which helps me as i know zero about electrics, just wondered if the resistors can be added with connectors and not soldered. Also i noticed you saying each light is connected to the board, is it possible to run one wire to 20 lights in a circuit, thank you, steve

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  7 месяцев назад

      Hi,
      From anyone of the 14 connections on the board you need to run a single positive and a single negative wire (I use red wire for Positive and Black wire for Negative) to a single White connector which has two slots. One of these wires go into each slot on the white connector. They just clip in.
      The wires screw in at the board end and each board connection is labelled + plus & - minus.
      The wires clip into the white connector so no soldering required at either end.
      At the white connector, you also plug in the positive and negative wires from the light into the respective slots. (the lights positive wire should have a resistor attached to it. The resistor should be supplied with the light upon purchase.
      You will struggle to get more than 5 wires into one white connector slot, so I would advise you had 4 white connectors and split the lights into groups of 5 or better still 5 connectors and groups of 4 lights per connector. Numerous wires just won't fit into the connector slot due to space.
      Therefore you will need to utilise 4 or 5 connections on the board with positive and negative wires going to each of the 4-5 white connectors.
      You could use even more if you want to the point where you have one connection on the board to one white connector and one light.
      Bear in mind that If you connect too many lights into one connector they will get dimmer, this is trial and error but 4 is a sensible number.
      Dependent on the lights, a resistor is required so be soldered onto the positive lead of the light but the other end of resistor can be plugged directly into a white connector, you don't need to solder a wire between the resistor and connector.
      Layouts4U sell lights with resistors already connected, so you can just plug them in. I believe other companies do similar.
      I would suggest you call layouts4u and talk to the guy there - he is very helpful and can advise on all electronic questions. I don't have any electrical knowledge and have managed to wire up my entire layout as per the videos and after talking to him.
      Note - You don't necessarily need to have the white connectors - you could run the lights directly into the connections in the board but then you would probably need to extend the wires from the lights to allow them to reach the board. This would normally involve soldering extra longer wires to the lights, hence the reason to use the connectors to extend the wiring and no requirement to solder.

  • @JoseMunoz-hl3bh
    @JoseMunoz-hl3bh 6 месяцев назад

    First of all great job on this video and wonderful explanations…. Just curious on a couple of questions hope you can help me with as I an just starting to work on learning lights and electrical connections for my new layout:
    Q1- the power distribution board that you show looks like it has two input connections? You plugged the power adapter into the top left one… What is the other one for?
    Q2-I noticed you use a resistor for the lamps on your layout… Is that because the voltage on the power adapter is much larger than the actual lamps?
    My lamps are all 4.5 V… I am using a voltage regulator that adjusts down to 4.5 V (same as my lamps)do I still need resistors?
    Q3: is there any way to make these types of connections weather/waterproof for outdoor usage?
    Q4: what gauge black and red wire did you use? Stranded or solid?
    Thank you in advance for your support and advise
    Joey

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  6 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Jose
      Q1 - You only need to use one of the two input power connections on the board. It depends on what type of input power adapter you are using to connect. i.e. the power plugs with the adapter terminations come in two different sizes (diameters) so you use the relevant input on the board for your connection. Hope that makes sense.
      Layouts4U.net sell power plugs that come with the correct terminations (adapters), you should contact them for questions but I just use a 3 Amp plug purchased from them that comes with the adapter to fit into the board input.
      The boards themselves also have an output so you can daisy chain a couple of boards together from one power source using wire from 1st to 2nd board. - I use 3 Amp wire to daisy chain my boards.
      Q2 - The Boards can handle around up to 16-18 Volts - Therefore, if your lamps are only 3-4 volts (which many are), then yes you need resistors or you will blow the lamps. Again I purchase most of mine from Layouts4U you and they supply a lot of lamps and individual LEDs with pre-soldered resistors for 12 Volts DC supply - These seem to work fine with the boards.
      Or you could purchase resistors separately and solder them to the positive lamp wire yourself. Just ensure the resistor can protect your lamp connected to a 12v DC supply.
      I have never tried using a voltage regulator and have no knowledge of whether these have built in resistance to control the voltage and protect the lamps. You would have to try connecting one and see if your lamp blows.
      Q3 - The boards are basic PCPs (Printed circuit boards) and would not be suitable for outdoors where they would get wet, either via rain or condensation etc. To use them outdoors you would need to protect them from the elements, but its not what they are designed for.
      Q4 - I have answered this in previous replies - please read other questions in this forum. Lamps and other lighted items do not take up a lot of amperage per device, so I have used a combination of wire from board to device that is between 1.8 Amp and 3 Amp. No reason for the difference in size, its really whatever I have available depending on the length of cable run. 1.8 Amp wire is plenty even for hanging 3 or 4 lamps off one connection on the board.
      Doesn't matter if its stranded or solid wire. I have used both on the 7 boards I have in use.
      Example - I would use a 1.8 - 3 Amp wire from board connection to the white clip in connector as shown on video and then plug in the lights into the white clip in connector as shown on video. You will notice the lights come with very thin wires and are designed to be fine with the lamp amperage draw over the wire to the lamp. Therefore, the wire I'm using is much thicker from white clip in connector to board and can easily handle 3-4 lamps from one white connector to board.
      It quite fiddley to get more than 3-4 lamp cables into a white clip in connector so this is the most you can practicably hang off a single point on the board. Also even if you could connect even more lamps per white connector, then the lamps would ultimately get dimmer.
      However this is plenty as there are 14 connections on the board, so if you hung 3 lamps per each board connection via white interim clip in connectors as I showed in the video, then this is 42 lamps connected to one board - so the board has plenty of capacity.
      As well as lamps I also use the boards to connect other lighted effects and also Viessmann e-motion moving novelty items, plus my Magnorail controllers. Basically anything that requires a 12 Volt DC supply. - The Viessmann items actually state a requirement for 16-18 volts but work fine connected to the board.
      Hope this helps...

    • @JoseMunoz-hl3bh
      @JoseMunoz-hl3bh 6 месяцев назад

      Wow. That was awesome reply!! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain in such detail. Very much appreciated 👍🏻😊

  • @DccDude-df7bx
    @DccDude-df7bx Месяц назад

    Thanks very much for this vid, i'm gonna try and find out what those white clips are called lol

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  Месяц назад

      Hi - If you read the comments and other replies regarding this particular email you should find all your questions answered as I'm sure I've already said what the clips are called in another response.

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  Месяц назад

      Hi - www.Layouts4U.net sell them - From Home menu click on Electrical Items > Wiring Accessories > Screwless Wire connectors - 25p each.
      Or you can get them from www.RailRoomElectronics.co.uk - from Home menu click on: Connectors > Screwless terminal blocks.
      Tbh Lots of places sell them but the two above are a good place to start.
      Hope this is of use - good luck :-)

  • @user-pn7tu5qk4m
    @user-pn7tu5qk4m 7 месяцев назад

    i keep thinking of questions to ask lol, can i ask what size your red and black wires are please, cheers, steve

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  7 месяцев назад

      Same answer as the plug adapter - the lighted accessories don't use much amperage so 4 lights on a connector will not even use an amp. Therefore from the connector to the board connection, the wire for 4 lights could be an 1 amp.
      I have 10 metre rolls of red and black wire which is 3amps and I tend to use this which is way over the top but in some instances I have used smaller wire with less amperage.

  • @convinth
    @convinth 8 месяцев назад

    Newbie here. There appear to be two inputs - what is the second one used for? Just another power source?

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  8 месяцев назад

      Yes - you only need one power input so you can ignore the other.
      The guy at www.Layouts4U.net will answer any questions you have - he helped me as I am no expert in electronics or electrics either but have multiple boards (7 of them). However, rather than buying 7 power supplies (plugs) one for each, you can daisy chain a couple of boards together. There input is for incoming power but there is also an output at the other end of the board so you can link the two boards with wires from the output of one to the input of another. Hope that makes sense. But recommend you chat with the Layouts4U. He will also advise on the correct plug to purchase - seem to recall it was a 3 amp input. He also sells the.

  • @steverileyretired
    @steverileyretired 2 года назад

    Hi, How many lights do you have in total?, looks very cool, what is it like in the dark

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  2 года назад +1

      Hi - There are 20 street lights including the three in the town. More to be added at the Alpine section. However, many more lights on the layout (12 on the two platforms) and then there are the buildings, traffic bollards and pedestrian crossings etc. so a lot in total, I have not counted them all up yet.
      Its looking good in the dark, I'll try to remember to take some shots during my next video. :-)

  • @paulsellers5371
    @paulsellers5371 9 месяцев назад

    Where do you get your white connectors from ?

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  9 месяцев назад

      Hi - www.Layouts4U.net sell them - From Home menu click on Electrical Items > Wiring Accessories > Screwless Wire connectors - 25p each.
      Or you can get them from www.RailRoomElectronics.co.uk - from Home menu click on: Connectors > Screwless terminal blocks.
      Tbh Lots of places sell them but the two above are a good place to start.
      Hope this is of use - good luck :-)

  • @melkitson
    @melkitson 9 месяцев назад

    Trying for constructive criticism here. You need to plan and script your presentation better. Also avoid people walking past the window behind you. I paid more attention to her than to you. Your desktop is scruffy and does not inspire confidence. We could not see any of the details of the boards or connectors thst you were using. I work in N gauge and my lights have wiring which is thinner than a cotton thread. I suspect that your connectors will not work with them. Please take this in the manner in which it was intended. Hope to see more from you in the future.

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately I have no control over when my wife decides to go into the garden. She was not aware I was filming and I was not aware she was in the background until I was editing the film by which time it was too late.
      With regards to details of the board, I stated clearly the name of the board at the start of the video and where I get them from - www.Layouts4U.net Someone else in the comments have said they purchased this product and used it successfully, after watching this video so it cannot be that unclear and all you need to do is speak to the guy at Layouts4U and he will answer any questions.
      With regard to the White connectors...
      www.Layouts4U.net sell them. From the web site Home menu click on: Electrical Items > Wiring Accessories > Screwless Wire connectors - 25p each.
      Or you can get them from www.RailRoomElectronics.co.uk - from Home menu click on: Connectors > Screwless terminal blocks.
      It does not matter what gauge you are running, or how thick / thin the wires are, my lights were on very thin wire. Its about the resistance; you just need to ensure that your lights will work on a 12volt DC power or, that they are supplied with appropriate resistors for 12v DC like in my video and and then solder the resistors onto the wire so you don't blow the lights. Again Layouts4U sell lights and other items for N scale and supply resistors in order to use them with their boards. Some items even come with resistors pre-soldered onto them.
      If unsure contact LayoutsU4 - I have always found the guy there very helpful.
      They attend a lot of the model railway exhibitions, or just give them a call.

    • @melkitson
      @melkitson 9 месяцев назад

      @@LeisureWorldModelRailway Thanks for your comprehensive reply. I live in Portugal so it is not easy to chat to people or even to purchase the products from your suppliers. Brexit made sure that we have to pay extortionate duty to import even stuff costing less than £1. You have an international audience due to youtube. You need to pitch your presentation in that direction.

    • @shteviemac8310
      @shteviemac8310 Месяц назад

      What a hateful comment to someone so helpful. This guy is getting nothing from this!
      If you don't like the presentation you should scroll on, jeez 🙄

  • @user-pn7tu5qk4m
    @user-pn7tu5qk4m 7 месяцев назад

    great video, very helpful, can i ask what your plug adaptor is called so i can find one on amazon, thanks, steve

    • @LeisureWorldModelRailway
      @LeisureWorldModelRailway  7 месяцев назад

      Hi - www.Layouts4U.net sell them - From Home menu click on Electrical Items > Wiring Accessories > Screwless Wire connectors - 25p each.
      Or you can get them from www.RailRoomElectronics.co.uk - from Home menu click on: Connectors > Screwless terminal blocks.
      Tbh Lots of places sell them but the two above are a good place to start.
      Hope this is of use - good luck :-)