@AventSir these are more hypothetical but cases could also be made for Goten being the youngest Super Sayin ever, Trunks, also being a young SS who was more powerful than Goten. Just dont see enough progression so far to take them seriously I guess. Also if Cell was still active he should have more potential than Freiza due to Cell having Freiza’s and the sayin’s cells. But maybe most intriguing could be Majin Buu. Buu didnt get to participate in the tournament of power but he trained and got slim, we dont know how much more powerful he became but Buu’s potential should be higher than Freiza hypothetically. Would be nice to see how Buu would stack up in future content
Imagine if every time a froze demon( not cannon name of race is just called freezes race) they potential increase like the difference between a sanity and a half stayan and we know freeze has more than clor( also not canon) so imagine the potential of freezes great ,great,greatx10 greats grand child they potential would be so big that they could increase they power from galaxy to universeal just by lifting a feather.
Let’s just say we get somone with that potential joe long do you think they would need to train to become the strongest in fiction ( or at lest the closest to it)
@@Red-ev8lsYeah Broly has Gohan beat on explosive power. It wouldn’t even be a question if Gohan didn’t get that ass pull unearned plot point driven transformation that made his potential out to be far more than it realistically should have been. Even still, Broly by far has the greatest potential to grow in a short period of time, he went from Ginyu level power to at least SSJ2 Gogeta power post TOP in less than 2 hours. Even with the ass pulls, Broly’s potential far exceeds Gohans in every regard
Frieza never trained and was the 2nd strongest bar majin buu, he then trained for 4 months with fodder and was super saiyan blue level. He trained by himself for 10 years and is probably near Berus levels.. yeah to me he has the most potential. He's literally the strongest mortal in universe 7 with the least amount of effort.
Correction Gohan trained the least but still Gohan had teachers like Piccollo, Goku who are top tier teachers, Frieza trained alone for 10 years and only 4 months with a punching bag and imagine if someone like whis where to train Frieza he would reach angel levels and maybe even learn destruction alone the way.
I blame Super for giving Goku fans the misconception that he has to be the strongest at all time, he spent a good chunk of the Android Saga weaker than PICCOLO and even when he surpassed him and Vegeta and Trunks he was still second to Gohan.
@@DennyLxxxrdIn the Manga Beerus is stronger but if we go of statements made by whis MUI Goku should actually be stronger than Anime Beerus because MUI Goku > Jiren > Belmod > Beerus Of course it would always be possible to retcon it by whis lying
Even in dragonball super, Goku hasn't been the strongest, whether it comes to within his own team or in general. Goku has been taught from such a young age that no matter how strong he gets, there will always be someone stronger. It's what drives him to get stronger. The times Goku surpassed others, he earned it.
No I think Gohan has really great talent like his ki control is S tier like up there in terms of best in the verse plus Gohan picked up on fighting quite easily considering how young he was like yes Gohan has this wicked potential but I wouldn’t say he lacks in talent
@Ejay923 he does the other 2 just learn even faster, broly does midfight, and frieza with 4 months of training went from fodder to God tier, gohan had to struggle to get where he is, the other 2 not so much
Current gohan trained way less than frieza and broly lol, he trained 1 year in saiyan/namek saga, 3 years for the android saga, almost 1 year in the cell saga time chamber, trained days for the buu saga tournament and 1 day w/ the Z sword, trained some days after RoF arc, trained for hours before ToP, trained for 2 months in the moro arc and trained special beam cannon before super hero arc. That gives gohan only 5 years of training in his entire life, frieza trained for 11 years and 4 months to reach his current level (10 years in time chamber, 1 year in hell and 4 months in RoF) and broly trained all of his life with paragus, he just couldn't release the power that he increased over the years, which he only did by instict in dbs broly and is learning how to do it from goku, vegeta and gohan.
@@Flipitmixit how saying gohan got his potential unlocked twice is an argument to define that gohan has less potential than broly or frieza. This is the complete opposite, it just help in gohan's favor, he had so much potential that one unlock wasn't enough, the super hero arc guides stated that gohan unleashed his latent potencial again when he went beast, so it was actually 3 times lol.
Stupid ass comparison The no. of years spent training has got nothing to do with how much potential someone has and even your counting for no. of years training is biased towards gohan , like are you serious when you include the image training frieza did in hell? Broly only had paragus to train with who had like a powerlevel of 3-4k He went from like buu saga level to destroying 2 super saiyan blues in a matter of hours
Honestly I think Gohan has the most potential considering he’s not only the youngest here but the fact he caught up with Goku and Vegeta with nowhere near the type of quality training Goku and Vegeta are doing with beerus and whis he’s pretty solid tbh plus he didn’t even go full power against goku but with broly he has that adaptability even though I personally believe if frieza never killed paragus Broly would’ve lost to Goku and Vegeta but that’s just me though
Man that would be so overkill 7 years training Gohan probably reaches near the lvl of his ultimate form in just ssj2 if he does do the whole ritual anyways he ends up hitting absolutely bonkers lvl of powers reaching into the territory of super
Honestly after working out in the gym and and seeing how muscle memory and “potential” works. Especially with stuff like “newbie gains” and “good genetics”, I really start to understand Gohan’s power spikes and why he can go from shit to powerful and make these massive jumps from less training compared to Goku and Vegeta. It’s like a genetic freak in bodybuilding(Ronny Coleman, Chris bunstead) doing the bare minimum or less and still looking crazy compared to the average joe(goku n vegeta). And just how fucking insane they look when they put in effort and train seriously. There’s just no competition. Muscle memory kicks in even if Gohan slacks off he’ll get back up to speed pretty quick if he starts training again, and his potential is so amazing when he’s training he just spikes in strength. If Gohan maintained proper and good training like goku or vegetarians he would unironically be Angel level.
And obviously it’s fiction and these are saiyans/Frieza/hybrids so their “potential” or genetic superiority could be easily exaggerated or enhanced to a degree that seems absurd. But we’re in a world where people can blow up planets and move faster than light so.
Gohan mentioned powering up close to snapping, but what if he did went overboard and snap? Would he keep growing in power like Broly and be mindless rage? I love these type of content. Is it worthy of a video? 😊
Honestly the debate is between Frieza and Broly and I want to explain myself, recently and for a long time I always gave the first position to Broly, but then someone said that we can´t have a final answer till we see Broly using his power without losing his mind, we must wait till we have a full in control Broly and see what´s he is capable of in a normal state and I agree, for me Broly and Frieza are the ones with most potential
Gohan has the biggest rage boosts. Freeza gets the most out of training. Broly gets stronger depending on his opponent. If Broly was to fight namek freeza for example, I think he’d only get as strong as ssj goku did. If he were to fight cell, he’d get to ssj2 gohan tier, etc. They all have different ways to access their potential
I feel there’s needs to be some context with potential. While yes broly had the biggest jump, broly has been fighting for survival his entire life.. like 40+ years.. he’s battle hardened. And frieza has been fighting his whole life,at least 60+ years.. battle hardened. If you take the full amount of time gohan has actually trained and fought it’s less than 5 years. He grew up peacefully and only trained for big fights. 1 year with piccolo for the saiyans, a year with piccolo and goku for the androids, a year for cell… and on and off till the tournament of power. And for gohan to be relative to broly and frieza with less than 90% of their experience and training says a lot. Frieza and broly are true prodigies .. this is fact. But they both out in the time and years to make the quick power jumps. Based off that context I’m rocking with gohan. You place them three in a vacuum with the same conditions and time I think gohan comes out on top.
Black freezer definitely, they made it quite clear that if he were to appear on Beerus' planet Goku& Vegeta couldn't do a thing and Goku is relative to Gohan so yeah Black freezer is way stronger
I don’t know how berserker broly would beat mui goku since he isn’t really a strategic fighter and relies on his strength a lot in battle goku strategy, skill and experience would decimate broly that will be awfully one sided heavily on goku favours.
Of we talk about potensial,so Gohan more above frieza who frieza need 4 month to equals with super Saiyan blue while gohan only need several day form Buu Saga and become kefla level with can be said gohan is stronger than super Saiyan blue level on ToP
@@mustafatotanawala3892his beast form is most likely stronger than Mui, not to mention stronger than goku for most of the cell saga while being like half the age.
we not gonna talk about goku black here he easily gets damaged and gets way stronger he lost to a ssj2 goku and the next he couldn’t even be hurt by a ssjb vegeta in base remeber broly has a limit to his adapting and broly couldn’t even kill frieza for a entire hour with that was goku black he woulda adapted and gotten stronger from the damage
@@Toddles you get wrong points on Goku black bro,Goku black get stronger because zenkai boost he got after healing by immortal zamasu with this is passive skill of Saiyan with every time get serious injury Will make they become stronger after full recovery
I feel like you're missing a vital piece of your arguement in terms of potential with Gohan. (which you acknowledged in your videos) When Gohan trained with Piccolo to re-awaken Ultimate. Right there in under an hour to at best a literal hour. Went from a tad over buu to deadass all the way to Pre-Top. Note something for the anime all the Pre-Top Fights Goku went Blue, NOT A SINGLE TIME EXCEPT AGAINST GOHAN HE NEEDED KAIOKEN. So Gohan went from rusty as hell being stangant to slightly over buu saga ALL THE WAY SKIPPING BOG TO POST GOKU BLACK SAGA. Just by literally training alittle and regaining Ultimate. Note also this the first time in anyway he even trained in Ultimate. The time is unkown for the manga in context of training time pre-top however: Ultimate Gohan literally is fighting KEFLA not Just Kefla Super Saiyan Kefla. You know a Saiyan that fused WITH A LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN. He reached frieza level heights in small bursts that took a far shorter window compared frieza which is purely long term. Keep in mind as well Frieza has no short term potential. What I am defining is: Short Term- To bring out your potential in a shorter timespan. Ex: Mid-Combat, adaption, etc Long Term- To bring out your potential in a longer timespan. Ex: Training Before training a tad every now and then which did bec he didnt slack bec he can enter ultimate and use SBC. Broly went from Namek Saga to Post Top in 1 Hour. Gohan went from Buu Saga to Pre ToP in 1 Hour or Less. Frieza needed 4 months to go from Frieza Saga to post BoG and more month go from that ToP to needing 10 full years to even form a gap of staying ahead. So adding that crucial context it's clear as day if Gohan constantly trained Goku would not even NEED to comeback he would of eclipsed everyone, on Earth. Hence why Toriyama glazed Gohan (which is true in what hes written) that Gohan if tried would be Earth's Best Protector. Which is why he is done slacking off now. He is the Goalpost of earth's warriors. So the potential list is 1. Broly 2. Gohan 3. Frieza
Frieza trained 10 years just to get power crept by broly in probably 30 minutes assuming her wouldn't insta kill him. (Spoilers: he would insta kill him)
Do you think z Goku is at least on galaxy level kid buu is and he defeated him what’s yall opinion some people sleep on z Goku and just going straight to super
@@feline2322 Vegeta run away like a bi*ch from same Broly Gohan is literally trained by multiple people and he is literally fighting his whole life (Saiyan, Frieza, Cell, Buu etc...) You seriously lack reading comprehension skills Do you know how weak Broly was at the start of the movie??
we not gonna talk about goku black here he easily gets damaged and gets way stronger he lost to a ssj2 goku and the next he couldn’t even be hurt by a ssjb vegeta in base remeber broly has a limit to his adapting and broly couldn’t even kill frieza for a entire hour with that was goku black he woulda adapted and gotten stronger from the damage
That has been explained as Broly never having an actual fight in all his life and having a shit training partner, these effects ware down over time as he starts to platou seeing physical strength can only get you so far with the next step being Ki control which Broly recently mastered by training with Beast Gohan.
Wdym? He literally charged at Vegeta at a speed Vegeta would have trouble keeping up. Also him being equal with Vegeta is explained by the amount of Shocks Broly went through and getting Zenkai’s from it.
I’d say ropy has the most potential bc he only has to super sayain forms and as only a super sayain he was able to defeat or beat frieza in his golden form
we not gonna talk about goku black here he easily gets damaged and gets way stronger he lost to a ssj2 goku and the next he couldn’t even be hurt by a ssjb vegeta in base remeber broly has a limit to his adapting and broly couldn’t even kill frieza for a entire hour with that was goku black he woulda adapted and gotten stronger from the damage
we not gonna talk about goku black here he easily gets damaged and gets way stronger he lost to a ssj2 goku and the next he couldn’t even be hurt by a ssjb vegeta in base remeber broly has a limit to his adapting and broly couldn’t even kill frieza for a entire hour with that was goku black he woulda adapted and gotten stronger from the damage
It's Goku bro Goku has the most potential he invented all modern day forms of super saiyin basically the hike from blue to mastered UI is beyond anything we have seen so far. And we forget Goku Vegeta and gas where just coming out of the fight of there lives. Before getting snuck by frieza Goku did something beerus couldn't and beerus is stronger then all other Gods of destruction. It's easy Goku
broly and its not even close, he was weaker than base vegeta, to a threat requiring blue gogeta in hours. gohan and frieza couldn't even do that in months or years from actually training, while broly did it just by gaining experience and turning super saiyan for the first time. the 40+ years of training with paragus are meaningless due to the power difference, like frieza literally states.
Wrong ssj is 50× base ssj grade 2 is 100× base ssj grade 3× 150 base ssj1 full power 200× base ssj2 gohan plus rage boost plus potential 350× base this why he was even stronger than super perfect cell before he got the arm injured
Let's just remember that goku has lost to many characters throughout the series, tien, yamcha, even Jackie chun, but obviously, goku grows stronger and manages to beat them later like how he beats tien in the 23rd tournament. Through He never beats Jackie, sadly, or vegeta, not even once, sorry
The cope here is massive, Broly isn’t anywhere near as powerful as Goku and neither is Gohan. Vegeta while in SSJ was able to fight a Broly who was getting angry, and giving God as a low ball is only 16x stronger than SSJ, this would easily mean UI Goku would be atleast 2x FPSSJ Broly (this is assuming the forms without official multipliers are only 2x the previous forms power.) then there’s Least Fraudhan who caps at Blue Level since Vegeta despite seeing his amp that “OnE sHoTtEd gOkU”.
Dude Goku and Gohan went all out in their sparring session you're the one coping Gohan has more raw power than Goku but Goku has more skill and a better form due to it's auto dodge nature Gohan is also the only one who didn't get rest as he fought trunks and gotten them Goku than broly who just found out how to go ssj without losing control and then they get into a 4 way battle with Vegeta in blue evolution joining in and they tied out
@@Nathan24634 Nah, Goku was literally handling Gohan 90% of the fight. Gohan needed a rage boost just to land one blow and if you compare this fight to Goku’s fight with Jiren, then you should notice how Jiren gave a better challenge to Goku than Gohan did. Gohan was desparate and panting after only landing one blow and needed a rage boost for said blow, it’s consistent too since Goku could Kiai Gohan away and Vegeta only uses Blue against Gohan after seeing his rage boost.
@@SonZackSSJ9k it's also possible that Vegeta for some odd reason can only go blue evolution there as mui Goku was also on that scuffle and it wasn't a rage boost it was Gohan powering up to his limit and he managed to tag Goku and force him to block and then continued to fight multiple high lvl opponents after that and this limit of his power is just where he starts to lose control not his actual limit
@@Nathan24634 That’s Headcanon, Vegeta only used Blue against Gohan, not evolution. Vegeta can use Ultra Ego during a sparring match, he literally uses the technique form of it against Broly in Chapter 101. It was literally a rage boost, what else would it be? Gohan already powered up to the max before hand and even then struggled to land just one blow. Thats a misconception, he doesn’t limit anything, he uses rage boost to draw out beyond his max which is exactly what a rage boost is. We see him go full power against Cell Max and he wasn’t Berserk, he struggled against Someone who was weaker than Broly. And Vegeta using only SS1 against Base Broly would mean he as a lowball would need SSJG to over power wrathful, SSJB to overpower SSJ Broly (which is consistent since what we see with Gohan Vs Broly) and SSJBE to overpower FPSSJ.
@@SonZackSSJ9k eh Gohan still scales to mui Goku as he still made Goku block and tagged him out of his base form if he was in a fight to the death there he would have won
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@AventSir these are more hypothetical but cases could also be made for Goten being the youngest Super Sayin ever, Trunks, also being a young SS who was more powerful than Goten. Just dont see enough progression so far to take them seriously I guess. Also if Cell was still active he should have more potential than Freiza due to Cell having Freiza’s and the sayin’s cells. But maybe most intriguing could be Majin Buu. Buu didnt get to participate in the tournament of power but he trained and got slim, we dont know how much more powerful he became but Buu’s potential should be higher than Freiza hypothetically. Would be nice to see how Buu would stack up in future content
Imagine if every time a froze demon( not cannon name of race is just called freezes race) they potential increase like the difference between a sanity and a half stayan and we know freeze has more than clor( also not canon) so imagine the potential of freezes great ,great,greatx10 greats grand child they potential would be so big that they could increase they power from galaxy to universeal just by lifting a feather.
Let’s just say we get somone with that potential joe long do you think they would need to train to become the strongest in fiction ( or at lest the closest to it)
Personally I think broly has the highest adaptability Frieza has the highest training potential and gohan has the explosive potential
That's probably the most accurate
What? 😂 broly has more potential than gohan in EVERY way
@@Red-ev8lsYeah Broly has Gohan beat on explosive power. It wouldn’t even be a question if Gohan didn’t get that ass pull unearned plot point driven transformation that made his potential out to be far more than it realistically should have been. Even still, Broly by far has the greatest potential to grow in a short period of time, he went from Ginyu level power to at least SSJ2 Gogeta power post TOP in less than 2 hours. Even with the ass pulls, Broly’s potential far exceeds Gohans in every regard
Frieza never trained and was the 2nd strongest bar majin buu, he then trained for 4 months with fodder and was super saiyan blue level. He trained by himself for 10 years and is probably near Berus levels.. yeah to me he has the most potential. He's literally the strongest mortal in universe 7 with the least amount of effort.
Correction Gohan trained the least but still Gohan had teachers like Piccollo, Goku who are top tier teachers, Frieza trained alone for 10 years and only 4 months with a punching bag and imagine if someone like whis where to train Frieza he would reach angel levels and maybe even learn destruction alone the way.
I blame Super for giving Goku fans the misconception that he has to be the strongest at all time, he spent a good chunk of the Android Saga weaker than PICCOLO and even when he surpassed him and Vegeta and Trunks he was still second to Gohan.
FR the gods of destructions only bowed down cus they ain't NEVER seen a mortal so powerful not cus he was stronger
It's about time I'm tired of Goku fans being so Annoying
@@DennyLxxxrdIn the Manga Beerus is stronger but if we go of statements made by whis MUI Goku should actually be stronger than Anime Beerus because MUI Goku > Jiren > Belmod > Beerus
Of course it would always be possible to retcon it by whis lying
all this yapping only for goku to slam🤦 man its sad
Even in dragonball super, Goku hasn't been the strongest, whether it comes to within his own team or in general. Goku has been taught from such a young age that no matter how strong he gets, there will always be someone stronger. It's what drives him to get stronger. The times Goku surpassed others, he earned it.
Goated content, as per usual.
Get Gohan & Broly in a Time Chamber for a while and only the Angels are touching U7.
frieza -great talent, least potential
gohan-great potential, least talent
broly-maximum potential, maximum talent
No I think Gohan has really great talent like his ki control is S tier like up there in terms of best in the verse plus Gohan picked up on fighting quite easily considering how young he was like yes Gohan has this wicked potential but I wouldn’t say he lacks in talent
@Ejay923 he does the other 2 just learn even faster, broly does midfight, and frieza with 4 months of training went from fodder to God tier, gohan had to struggle to get where he is, the other 2 not so much
Current gohan trained way less than frieza and broly lol, he trained 1 year in saiyan/namek saga, 3 years for the android saga, almost 1 year in the cell saga time chamber, trained days for the buu saga tournament and 1 day w/ the Z sword, trained some days after RoF arc, trained for hours before ToP, trained for 2 months in the moro arc and trained special beam cannon before super hero arc.
That gives gohan only 5 years of training in his entire life, frieza trained for 11 years and 4 months to reach his current level (10 years in time chamber, 1 year in hell and 4 months in RoF) and broly trained all of his life with paragus, he just couldn't release the power that he increased over the years, which he only did by instict in dbs broly and is learning how to do it from goku, vegeta and gohan.
@@Flipitmixit how saying gohan got his potential unlocked twice is an argument to define that gohan has less potential than broly or frieza.
This is the complete opposite, it just help in gohan's favor, he had so much potential that one unlock wasn't enough, the super hero arc guides stated that gohan unleashed his latent potencial again when he went beast, so it was actually 3 times lol.
Stupid ass comparison
The no. of years spent training has got nothing to do with how much potential someone has
and even your counting for no. of years training is biased towards gohan , like are you serious when you include the image training frieza did in hell?
Broly only had paragus to train with who had like a powerlevel of 3-4k
He went from like buu saga level to destroying 2 super saiyan blues in a matter of hours
@@kleber_felintohonestly I am of the belief that a character can reach their max potential and then after that their potential can grow
Gohan trained in between ROF and TOP
Honestly I think Gohan has the most potential considering he’s not only the youngest here but the fact he caught up with Goku and Vegeta with nowhere near the type of quality training Goku and Vegeta are doing with beerus and whis he’s pretty solid tbh plus he didn’t even go full power against goku but with broly he has that adaptability even though I personally believe if frieza never killed paragus Broly would’ve lost to Goku and Vegeta but that’s just me though
Avent u should do what if gohan trained during the 7 years I feel like he would be 4 5 times stronger
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Man that would be so overkill 7 years training Gohan probably reaches near the lvl of his ultimate form in just ssj2 if he does do the whole ritual anyways he ends up hitting absolutely bonkers lvl of powers reaching into the territory of super
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Characters that absolutely destroy Goku: ❌
Characters that Goku already absolutely destroyed: ✅
are you talking about end of z goku?
Honestly after working out in the gym and and seeing how muscle memory and “potential” works. Especially with stuff like “newbie gains” and “good genetics”, I really start to understand Gohan’s power spikes and why he can go from shit to powerful and make these massive jumps from less training compared to Goku and Vegeta. It’s like a genetic freak in bodybuilding(Ronny Coleman, Chris bunstead) doing the bare minimum or less and still looking crazy compared to the average joe(goku n vegeta). And just how fucking insane they look when they put in effort and train seriously. There’s just no competition. Muscle memory kicks in even if Gohan slacks off he’ll get back up to speed pretty quick if he starts training again, and his potential is so amazing when he’s training he just spikes in strength. If Gohan maintained proper and good training like goku or vegetarians he would unironically be Angel level.
And obviously it’s fiction and these are saiyans/Frieza/hybrids so their “potential” or genetic superiority could be easily exaggerated or enhanced to a degree that seems absurd. But we’re in a world where people can blow up planets and move faster than light so.
Been digging the content.
Gohan mentioned powering up close to snapping, but what if he did went overboard and snap? Would he keep growing in power like Broly and be mindless rage? I love these type of content. Is it worthy of a video? 😊
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Great video!
haters are stupid. goku just speed blitzes gg ez win 😅😅😅
Honestly the debate is between Frieza and Broly and I want to explain myself, recently and for a long time I always gave the first position to Broly, but then someone said that we can´t have a final answer till we see Broly using his power without losing his mind, we must wait till we have a full in control Broly and see what´s he is capable of in a normal state and I agree, for me Broly and Frieza are the ones with most potential
Gohan has the biggest rage boosts.
Freeza gets the most out of training.
Broly gets stronger depending on his opponent.
If Broly was to fight namek freeza for example, I think he’d only get as strong as ssj goku did. If he were to fight cell, he’d get to ssj2 gohan tier, etc.
They all have different ways to access their potential
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I feel there’s needs to be some context with potential. While yes broly had the biggest jump, broly has been fighting for survival his entire life.. like 40+ years.. he’s battle hardened. And frieza has been fighting his whole life,at least 60+ years.. battle hardened. If you take the full amount of time gohan has actually trained and fought it’s less than 5 years. He grew up peacefully and only trained for big fights. 1 year with piccolo for the saiyans, a year with piccolo and goku for the androids, a year for cell… and on and off till the tournament of power. And for gohan to be relative to broly and frieza with less than 90% of their experience and training says a lot. Frieza and broly are true prodigies .. this is fact. But they both out in the time and years to make the quick power jumps. Based off that context I’m rocking with gohan. You place them three in a vacuum with the same conditions and time I think gohan comes out on top.
Black freezer definitely, they made it quite clear that if he were to appear on Beerus' planet Goku& Vegeta couldn't do a thing and Goku is relative to Gohan so yeah Black freezer is way stronger
I don’t know how berserker broly would beat mui goku since he isn’t really a strategic fighter and relies on his strength a lot in battle goku strategy, skill and experience would decimate broly that will be awfully one sided heavily on goku favours.
If there is a big enough gap in power skill and biq doesn't matter as there is too much of a stat difference for that to make up for
W again
What about Uub
Broly and Kale are both the Saiyans of legend that appear every 1000 years in U6 & U7 💯
Nobody in fiction has more potential than freeza
In fiction is kinda crazy but in db universe you are probably right
@@Fantomstranger well to be fair they is cell
i shall solo you. also did you read my comment from jiren vs broly.
Gogeta didn’t need ssjb but he didn’t know if Broly could adapt to his power so he used it
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The real answer is UUB imo as a child he was able to match base Goku and restore MUI
Of we talk about potensial,so Gohan more above frieza who frieza need 4 month to equals with super Saiyan blue while gohan only need several day form Buu Saga and become kefla level with can be said gohan is stronger than super Saiyan blue level on ToP
Gohan is weaker than ssg
Ssb is equal to ultimate gohan
Beast gohan is equal or stronger than mui @@mustafatotanawala3892
@@mustafatotanawala3892his beast form is most likely stronger than Mui, not to mention stronger than goku for most of the cell saga while being like half the age.
we not gonna talk about goku black here he easily gets damaged and gets way stronger he lost to a ssj2 goku and the next he couldn’t even be hurt by a ssjb vegeta in base remeber broly has a limit to his adapting and broly couldn’t even kill frieza for a entire hour with that was goku black he woulda adapted and gotten stronger from the damage
@@Toddles you get wrong points on Goku black bro,Goku black get stronger because zenkai boost he got after healing by immortal zamasu with this is passive skill of Saiyan with every time get serious injury Will make they become stronger after full recovery
Based for saying Beast Gohan is the strongest Saiyan
Havent watched the video, GOKU SOLOS🤑🤑
Ah yes goku Solos gohans in terms of potential makes sense
@@ranjitkumarbora9243get him pass whis first.
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I feel like you're missing a vital piece of your arguement in terms of potential with Gohan. (which you acknowledged in your videos)
When Gohan trained with Piccolo to re-awaken Ultimate. Right there in under an hour to at best a literal hour. Went from a tad over buu to deadass all the way to Pre-Top.
Note something for the anime all the Pre-Top Fights Goku went Blue, NOT A SINGLE TIME EXCEPT AGAINST GOHAN HE NEEDED KAIOKEN.
So Gohan went from rusty as hell being stangant to slightly over buu saga ALL THE WAY SKIPPING BOG TO POST GOKU BLACK SAGA. Just by literally training alittle and regaining Ultimate. Note also this the first time in anyway he even trained in Ultimate.
The time is unkown for the manga in context of training time pre-top however: Ultimate Gohan literally is fighting KEFLA not Just Kefla Super Saiyan Kefla. You know a Saiyan that fused WITH A LEGENDARY SUPER SAIYAN.
He reached frieza level heights in small bursts that took a far shorter window compared frieza which is purely long term.
Keep in mind as well Frieza has no short term potential.
What I am defining is:
Short Term- To bring out your potential in a shorter timespan. Ex: Mid-Combat, adaption, etc
Long Term- To bring out your potential in a longer timespan. Ex: Training
Before training a tad every now and then which did bec he didnt slack bec he can enter ultimate and use SBC.
Broly went from Namek Saga to Post Top in 1 Hour.
Gohan went from Buu Saga to Pre ToP in 1 Hour or Less.
Frieza needed 4 months to go from Frieza Saga to post BoG and more month go from that ToP to needing 10 full years to even form a gap of staying ahead.
So adding that crucial context it's clear as day if Gohan constantly trained Goku would not even NEED to comeback he would of eclipsed everyone, on Earth. Hence why Toriyama glazed Gohan (which is true in what hes written) that Gohan if tried would be Earth's Best Protector. Which is why he is done slacking off now. He is the Goalpost of earth's warriors.
So the potential list is
1. Broly
2. Gohan
3. Frieza
Frieza trained 10 years just to get power crept by broly in probably 30 minutes assuming her wouldn't insta kill him. (Spoilers: he would insta kill him)
If Goku absorbed god into base and can go super saiyan on top how is blue god going super saiyan?
For me
The one who levels up the fastest
Broly
Goku Black
Frieza tied with Gohan
Frieza is not tied with Gohan and Goku Black is THE BIGGEST CHEATER LMAO
Do you think z Goku is at least on galaxy level kid buu is and he defeated him what’s yall opinion some people sleep on z Goku and just going straight to super
GOHAN POTENTIAL ANGER TRAINING
BROLY POTENTIAL RAGE ANGER
FRIZA-ALL
It's easily Broly
He went from namek arc fodder to above SSJ Blue in less than a hour
Are we on about the same Broly who got cooked by Gohan and Vegeta?
@@feline2322 Vegeta run away like a bi*ch from same Broly
Gohan is literally trained by multiple people and he is literally fighting his whole life (Saiyan, Frieza, Cell, Buu etc...)
You seriously lack reading comprehension skills
Do you know how weak Broly was at the start of the movie??
we not gonna talk about goku black here he easily gets damaged and gets way stronger he lost to a ssj2 goku and the next he couldn’t even be hurt by a ssjb vegeta in base remeber broly has a limit to his adapting and broly couldn’t even kill frieza for a entire hour with that was goku black he woulda adapted and gotten stronger from the damage
That has been explained as Broly never having an actual fight in all his life and having a shit training partner, these effects ware down over time as he starts to platou seeing physical strength can only get you so far with the next step being Ki control which Broly recently mastered by training with Beast Gohan.
Wdym? He literally charged at Vegeta at a speed Vegeta would have trouble keeping up.
Also him being equal with Vegeta is explained by the amount of Shocks Broly went through and getting Zenkai’s from it.
I’d say ropy has the most potential bc he only has to super sayain forms and as only a super sayain he was able to defeat or beat frieza in his golden form
we not gonna talk about goku black here he easily gets damaged and gets way stronger he lost to a ssj2 goku and the next he couldn’t even be hurt by a ssjb vegeta in base remeber broly has a limit to his adapting and broly couldn’t even kill frieza for a entire hour with that was goku black he woulda adapted and gotten stronger from the damage
Broly most potential . Not a question gohan max plot armour no quostion
we not gonna talk about goku black here he easily gets damaged and gets way stronger he lost to a ssj2 goku and the next he couldn’t even be hurt by a ssjb vegeta in base remeber broly has a limit to his adapting and broly couldn’t even kill frieza for a entire hour with that was goku black he woulda adapted and gotten stronger from the damage
Goku black be abusing these zenkais bro fraud
It's Goku bro Goku has the most potential he invented all modern day forms of super saiyin basically the hike from blue to mastered UI is beyond anything we have seen so far.
And we forget Goku Vegeta and gas where just coming out of the fight of there lives.
Before getting snuck by frieza
Goku did something beerus couldn't and beerus is stronger then all other Gods of destruction.
It's easy Goku
Vegeta my fave character but ain’t no way he has more potential than broly or frieza lol
Where is goku black
broly and its not even close, he was weaker than base vegeta, to a threat requiring blue gogeta in hours. gohan and frieza couldn't even do that in months or years from actually training, while broly did it just by gaining experience and turning super saiyan for the first time. the 40+ years of training with paragus are meaningless due to the power difference, like frieza literally states.
Hasn’t Goku beaten them all before tho?
It is definitely uub. No other character has more potential than uub. The moro arc basically confirms this.
Wrong ssj is 50× base ssj grade 2 is 100× base ssj grade 3× 150 base ssj1 full power 200× base ssj2 gohan plus rage boost plus potential 350× base this why he was even stronger than super perfect cell before he got the arm injured
All that for goku to solo
stealing this line thanks
@@AventSir lol we all use it on TikTok
Broly*
Gohan
Let's just remember that goku has lost to many characters throughout the series, tien, yamcha, even Jackie chun, but obviously, goku grows stronger and manages to beat them later like how he beats tien in the 23rd tournament. Through He never beats Jackie, sadly, or vegeta, not even once, sorry
Frieza
all for end of z goku to solos even beerus
this is so not true😭 only frieza beats goku so far (in a battle to the death)
Misinfo. Gohan isn't stronger than goku
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The cope here is massive, Broly isn’t anywhere near as powerful as Goku and neither is Gohan. Vegeta while in SSJ was able to fight a Broly who was getting angry, and giving God as a low ball is only 16x stronger than SSJ, this would easily mean UI Goku would be atleast 2x FPSSJ Broly (this is assuming the forms without official multipliers are only 2x the previous forms power.) then there’s Least Fraudhan who caps at Blue Level since Vegeta despite seeing his amp that “OnE sHoTtEd gOkU”.
Dude Goku and Gohan went all out in their sparring session you're the one coping Gohan has more raw power than Goku but Goku has more skill and a better form due to it's auto dodge nature Gohan is also the only one who didn't get rest as he fought trunks and gotten them Goku than broly who just found out how to go ssj without losing control and then they get into a 4 way battle with Vegeta in blue evolution joining in and they tied out
@@Nathan24634 Nah, Goku was literally handling Gohan 90% of the fight. Gohan needed a rage boost just to land one blow and if you compare this fight to Goku’s fight with Jiren, then you should notice how Jiren gave a better challenge to Goku than Gohan did. Gohan was desparate and panting after only landing one blow and needed a rage boost for said blow, it’s consistent too since Goku could Kiai Gohan away and Vegeta only uses Blue against Gohan after seeing his rage boost.
@@SonZackSSJ9k it's also possible that Vegeta for some odd reason can only go blue evolution there as mui Goku was also on that scuffle and it wasn't a rage boost it was Gohan powering up to his limit and he managed to tag Goku and force him to block and then continued to fight multiple high lvl opponents after that and this limit of his power is just where he starts to lose control not his actual limit
@@Nathan24634 That’s Headcanon, Vegeta only used Blue against Gohan, not evolution. Vegeta can use Ultra Ego during a sparring match, he literally uses the technique form of it against Broly in Chapter 101.
It was literally a rage boost, what else would it be? Gohan already powered up to the max before hand and even then struggled to land just one blow.
Thats a misconception, he doesn’t limit anything, he uses rage boost to draw out beyond his max which is exactly what a rage boost is. We see him go full power against Cell Max and he wasn’t Berserk, he struggled against Someone who was weaker than Broly. And Vegeta using only SS1 against Base Broly would mean he as a lowball would need SSJG to over power wrathful, SSJB to overpower SSJ Broly (which is consistent since what we see with Gohan Vs Broly) and SSJBE to overpower FPSSJ.
@@SonZackSSJ9k eh Gohan still scales to mui Goku as he still made Goku block and tagged him out of his base form if he was in a fight to the death there he would have won
Goku isnt even a good character