I bought my 2021 Rubicon off the showroom for sadly a year and a half ago I had to sell it because I'm battling cancer I would love just getting away on that thing giving away from the world for a little while I think I'm going to buy another one even though my doctors tell me to stay off of them I'm not going to live the rest of my time here not doing something I enjoy so much I think I'm going to buy a rancher this time
You did a great job explaining in the video. I will only buy a Rancher 4x4 with the foot shift transmission. I actally prefer the solid rear axle to keep the price down.
I'm new to ATV but will need one later this year for hauling plantains up rocky trails. The manual, locking diff, solid rear, in 520 sounds great for the prices I have been seeing. For other makes in much steeper prices I might as well get a used pickup 4x4.
I just bought a Rancher 420 and i agree with you on them not putting a 12v outlet. Especially when even the cheaper chinese CF next to it has a 12v outlet as well as a usb.
Had my "new to me" 2018 honda foreman 500 foot shift now for 3 years now. used alot on the farm. Never abused but worked hard and works and runs like a champ. Lol i have the diff lock as well
One thing about the ranchers I would like to see, is either a kickstart backup, or backup option. I understand there is a recoil kit/pull start kit you can get for the Ranchers, but I heard that it isn’t the same as with the older Hondas.
I got one it's around $100 and it's a honda genuine part. Some of the rancher came or come with it not sure, you may have to special order it. That's the comment I made on here was the rancher should come standard with the 12v plug and pull start. The reason I got the honda 12v plug was for a little harbor freight air compressor I carry with some plugs. That's my three complaints with the 2024 manual rancher I got no 12v plug, no recoil start, and ridiculously weak rear spring that I had to replace with a highlifter spring. After these things I'm good to go. Pushing down on the rear of the rancher with stock spring is like pushing down on the back of an old crown victoria with no shocks just springs, it takes absolutely no effort. I saw a guy that had a rancher with the back rack that had the basket that hangs down a little and it looked like his stock tires were almost rubbing.
I have had several Hondas. They are the most reliable machines on the market. But I find they don’t keep up with other competitors. Such as comfortability engine, size suspension braking.
Currently have a 1998 TRX300FW. While the new ones are nice, I can't find any reason to upgrade. In fact, if they made my 300 again, I'd buy a new one in a heartbeat. Air-cooled, carb, fulltime 4WD, sips gasoline, and runs like a watch. Don't care for liquid cooling, FI, or electronic shift. Just more things to go wrong as time goes by. PS, looking at the market, I could get every cent I paid (and maybe more) back if I ever woke up stupid one day and decided to sell it.
What model would be best for plowing a driveway with a blade? Minnesota weather, about 40 yards long and 15 yards is a steep hill. I would only use it to clear driveway..
I have a 16 rancher base model i plow snow with still going strong,only complaint rear shock seems to collapse some dont want to spring back up after ya get off of it!! Didnt realize they had 3 different models of ranchers!!
Get you a highlifter spring, it will bring it back to life. Well in my case I bought a brand new 2024 and it put the life in it that it should have had in the first place.
What are you trying to get out of it? For the money spent on trying to get a few more ponies, you could probably trade up to a bigger machine if I'm being honest. You could look into a gear reduction for bigger tires too if that's what you are needing. Just not going to get a lot more hp for the money out of the 420. Thanks for watching!!
Is there an advantage to having the straight axle versus the independent suspension? It seems like the majority of Honda ATV’s come with the straight axle. Thanks.
The straight axel is pretty much bullet proof. I believe it is a better setup if you plan to work it hard or pull heavy loads too. The independent gives you a little better ride or a touch more clearance in the middle too. That's the meat of it anyway. Thanks for watching!
Love honda. I dislike the weak tires they put on them. Especially the foreman's. I had a 18 rancher, tires are what they are now. But my dad's 18' foreman had way better tires. I wish all honda four wheelers came standard in those.
I agree; I think they would do very well with a 700-750cc single like the King Quad & Grizzly and don’t necessarily need to jump into the high HP wars.
Any ideas on how to increase to horsepower on these Hondas? Foreman is rated at 30.5 horsepower and the Suzuki King Quad 500 is at 38.5. I have a Rancher now very happy with Honda but I would like more power for logging. Love the Hondas for quality and reliability!
Don't know if he knew what he was talking about but saw a comment from a guy that talked to someone at honda and said there's a 700 in the works for 2025. I kind of believe it because I figured honda was going to put something bigger out before long to compete with the others and everybody is hollering that's what they want. Two things that honda would make an absolute killing with. 4×4 recon and put one of their 1000 motors in an atv. Those two alone would double sales. A 700 honda would be a good start but that start should have been years ago they are getting left behind except for reliability and that's not as good as it used to be.
Yes, polaris , grizzly, can am are fun & fast & powerful machines however seem to be in the repair shop more often . Honda should just keep doing what they've been doing for all these years , making reliable hard working trail riding atvs, my 2024 rancher already has 1200 kms bought it 2 months ago and is amazing, I've never owned a atv before my rancher , I'm so happy with this purchase & amazed with the pep this rancher has for a 420 , first , second gear has pretty good towing power , hauled 1/2 cord wood no problem, can get up to 60 kms per hr real quick , youll never see me in the repair shop love my Honda ❤
That's a real tough one to answer. I would probably lean toward the Rubicon if money isn't an object. It has the locker, more grunt, and more ground clearance. It would be better suited for the mud at a minimum. Appreciate you watching!
@@johnnyreb1475 I bought a used 400 four trax last year, low miles. It has solid axle, electronic shift. It took getting used to, and it is very under powered. I will teach my grandkids how to ride on it, but I would never buy a new Honda unless it is manual and solid axle. At least these older machines have tear off fenders.
Gotta agree on the confusing models and options Honda offers...! I have several Honda ATV's- From the smallest to biggest. A little 90 and 250 TRX. (2WD only). Little indestructable machines. My kid's and wife drive them all over the ranch. Just change the oil/air filter once in a while and keep good gas in em' (or use a fuel stabilizer). Having owned numerous other makers of quads, I avoid chain driven units because of the exposure, wear and tear and maintenance of the chain. I think all Hondas are gear driven. You will proably never have to do any maintenance on the drive unit..... Get the chain driven quads only if max. speed/performance is your deal... Get the 4WD models if you plan to be in any serious off road situation in the bigger units. That being said, my wife's little 250TRX 2WD rarely, if ever, gets stuck. It's all in knowing how to drive it.... It's actually one of my favorite go to units for running out with a bit of gear to do some work on the property. I like my 4WD Rancher for it's lower gearing for work, but lacking power steering, it takes some muscle to steer in 4WD sometimes. Get the PS if available. I can put several hundred pounds in a trailer and the rancher pulls it no problem. Our big 680 Rincon lacks power steering but is suprisingly easy to steer in 2 or 4WD. The gearing on the big boy is tall, great if you want to drive up to 63MPH, but for my use could be geared a little lower. But it's got so much grunt the gearing isn't an issue. I just don't need to go 20MPH in 1st gear as I do alot of slow speed puttering while working. It'll pull a 1000lbs. in a trailer plus I can load it's cargo baskets full and it performs effortlessly. The rear wheel fender well is a weird location for the battery in the 680. Did they relocate it in the new, (renamed) TRX700??? Over all, the Honda's are pretty bullet proof reliable and hold their resale value unless you just plain abuse the things. Dave
12v plug and pull start should be standard on the rancher. Just another way to get more money out of me. Only other thing is the rear spring is ridiculously weak, had to put out more on a highlifter spring to get what should have come from factory.
I've been sitting on a rancher since 2015. All day on these steep and very rocky trails it has gotten me everywhere I wanted to go. My only complaint is the seat. My friend's Rubicon has so much more comfortable of a seat. I wish my rancher seat was as comfortable.
Is his newer? Reason why I'm asking is I just got a 24 rancher and man that seat feels as soft as you can get besides memory foam. It is it's made of something that is one notch away from memory foam the only difference is it springs right back. That's one of the biggest things that stuck out to me out of the whole thing was how soft the seat is. I would call it more of a cushion than a seat.
@@johnnyreb1475 I'm guessing it was an aftermarket bumper that looks similar to the stock Foreman bumper. There are a lot of options when you start looking at the aftermarket accessories.
I have my 2008 Rancher 4x4 foot shift that I bought brand new and it still has the original battery and starts right up at 0 degrees F. This machine will last me the rest of my life.
I'm assuming you bought a 2wd? They do not have displays. To my knowledge you can not add one, but I could be wrong. Congrats on the purchase and thanks for watching!
I have a 2019 Rancher TRX420FM1 (absolute base model with manual 4wd/2wd, footshift, no diff lock and straight rear axle) and I love it great machines and super simple. On the other hand, the ES models were the most unreliable pieces of garbage I ever owned
A Honda le falta una cilindrada 1000, se quedó muy chica para competir con Can Am y Polaris. Tengo una TRX 520 FA y una Rincon 680 en México, falta Honda 1000 CC 🤷🏻♂️ tenemos varios años esperando motor 1000 de Honda en un ATV
That’s not correct. There are major differences in chassis between some of the models. Some have a straight axle in the rear and some are independent. Thanks for watching!
jesus can i get a new salesmen? lmao you deff should have went over all of these yourself off camera prior to filming this so you didnt have to keep correcting yourself. also. if a truck or car comes down the block, stop filming. get a cheap editing software and edit your videos and cut all that bs out. this 21 minute video could have been cut down to 7-10 minutes with some research and some editing..just a pro tip 🤷♂
I bought my 2021 Rubicon off the showroom for sadly a year and a half ago I had to sell it because I'm battling cancer I would love just getting away on that thing giving away from the world for a little while I think I'm going to buy another one even though my doctors tell me to stay off of them I'm not going to live the rest of my time here not doing something I enjoy so much I think I'm going to buy a rancher this time
I hope and pray you can ride again cancer free. God bless.
You did a great job explaining in the video. I will only buy a Rancher 4x4 with the foot shift transmission. I actally prefer the solid rear axle to keep the price down.
That's exactly what I got and for the same reason.
Better for towing too.
My 2022 Honda Rancher foot-shift is incredible, ... a strong and smooth machine.
Awesome video they should all of the color options that they currently have available for all of these units available for many years!
40% less confused about the lineup
I'm new to ATV but will need one later this year for hauling plantains up rocky trails. The manual, locking diff, solid rear, in 520 sounds great for the prices I have been seeing. For other makes in much steeper prices I might as well get a used pickup 4x4.
I have a froend thats has both 420 and 520.
Said overall the apart from the power the 420 is better@@Akira-nw4jl
Great job with the breakdown of the different options!
Thank you and thanks for watching!!!
I just bought a Rancher 420 and i agree with you on them not putting a 12v outlet. Especially when even the cheaper chinese CF next to it has a 12v outlet as well as a usb.
Thanks for watching!!
Had my "new to me" 2018 honda foreman 500 foot shift now for 3 years now. used alot on the farm. Never abused but worked hard and works and runs like a champ. Lol i have the diff lock as well
Thanks for watching! Foreman's are great machines!
Awesome video
Thank you very much,first time buyer and rider,brother works at Honda, cleared the waters..
Thanks for watching sir!
Good job. Did the job. Liked the shot of the cute girl, softened the harsh machinery. Good over view. Educated me very well. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
That's what I was thinking too
I recently purchased a 2024 honda foreman es with the power steering and i absolutely love it
@@albertataulbee5077 congrats on the new purchase and thanks for watching!!
Love it thanks for information
Thanks for watching!
Thanks, great video.
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
One thing about the ranchers I would like to see, is either a kickstart backup, or backup option. I understand there is a recoil kit/pull start kit you can get for the Ranchers, but I heard that it isn’t the same as with the older Hondas.
I got one it's around $100 and it's a honda genuine part. Some of the rancher came or come with it not sure, you may have to special order it. That's the comment I made on here was the rancher should come standard with the 12v plug and pull start. The reason I got the honda 12v plug was for a little harbor freight air compressor I carry with some plugs. That's my three complaints with the 2024 manual rancher I got no 12v plug, no recoil start, and ridiculously weak rear spring that I had to replace with a highlifter spring. After these things I'm good to go. Pushing down on the rear of the rancher with stock spring is like pushing down on the back of an old crown victoria with no shocks just springs, it takes absolutely no effort. I saw a guy that had a rancher with the back rack that had the basket that hangs down a little and it looked like his stock tires were almost rubbing.
Nice video bro! Just what I need to know! Don't listen dome bastards. Im looking to buy one of this and this helps a lot.
Which model is the best? TQ.
I have had several Hondas. They are the most reliable machines on the market. But I find they don’t keep up with other competitors. Such as comfortability engine, size suspension braking.
Currently have a 1998 TRX300FW. While the new ones are nice, I can't find any reason to upgrade. In fact, if they made my 300 again, I'd buy a new one in a heartbeat. Air-cooled, carb, fulltime 4WD, sips gasoline, and runs like a watch. Don't care for liquid cooling, FI, or electronic shift. Just more things to go wrong as time goes by. PS, looking at the market, I could get every cent I paid (and maybe more) back if I ever woke up stupid one day and decided to sell it.
The old 300 was a good one for sure. Thanks for watching!
What model would be best for plowing a driveway with a blade? Minnesota weather, about 40 yards long and 15 yards is a steep hill. I would only use it to clear driveway..
100% the 520 foreman. Period. No discussion. Heavier, lower gearing, front diff lock, easy choice. Thanks for watching!
@@powersportssteve Thank you!
I have a 16 rancher base model i plow snow with still going strong,only complaint rear shock seems to collapse some dont want to spring back up after ya get off of it!! Didnt realize they had 3 different models of ranchers!!
Get you a highlifter spring, it will bring it back to life. Well in my case I bought a brand new 2024 and it put the life in it that it should have had in the first place.
@@johnnyreb1475 thank you!
That rear brake works well.
Any ideas on how I can more horsepower on my 21 rancher? Otherwise just love the quad! Thanks
What are you trying to get out of it? For the money spent on trying to get a few more ponies, you could probably trade up to a bigger machine if I'm being honest. You could look into a gear reduction for bigger tires too if that's what you are needing. Just not going to get a lot more hp for the money out of the 420. Thanks for watching!!
Is there an advantage to having the straight axle versus the independent suspension? It seems like the majority of Honda ATV’s come with the straight axle. Thanks.
The straight axel is pretty much bullet proof. I believe it is a better setup if you plan to work it hard or pull heavy loads too. The independent gives you a little better ride or a touch more clearance in the middle too. That's the meat of it anyway. Thanks for watching!
Love honda. I dislike the weak tires they put on them. Especially the foreman's. I had a 18 rancher, tires are what they are now. But my dad's 18' foreman had way better tires. I wish all honda four wheelers came standard in those.
I don't think the tires are horrible, but I would want something with some more meat on them for my personal use too. Appreciate you watching!
That’s the first thing I did switched them out to ANCLA CST 6 ply the stock tires are garbage only complaint I can have with Honda
Would the 420 or the 520 be better for woods/trail riding
Mostly depends on what you're doing, specs, and preference.. For me, I tow firewood rounds up hills, so the 520 was better...
Also great video never heard of it lol
Awesome!
Honda needs to compete with the grizzly 700, king quad 750, polaris 570/850.
I agree; I think they would do very well with a 700-750cc single like the King Quad & Grizzly and don’t necessarily need to jump into the high HP wars.
Any ideas on how to increase to horsepower on these Hondas? Foreman is rated at 30.5 horsepower and the Suzuki King Quad 500 is at 38.5. I have a Rancher now very happy with Honda but I would like more power for logging. Love the Hondas for quality and reliability!
Don't know if he knew what he was talking about but saw a comment from a guy that talked to someone at honda and said there's a 700 in the works for 2025. I kind of believe it because I figured honda was going to put something bigger out before long to compete with the others and everybody is hollering that's what they want. Two things that honda would make an absolute killing with. 4×4 recon and put one of their 1000 motors in an atv. Those two alone would double sales. A 700 honda would be a good start but that start should have been years ago they are getting left behind except for reliability and that's not as good as it used to be.
Yes, polaris , grizzly, can am are fun & fast & powerful machines however seem to be in the repair shop more often . Honda should just keep doing what they've been doing for all these years , making reliable hard working trail riding atvs, my 2024 rancher already has 1200 kms bought it 2 months ago and is amazing, I've never owned a atv before my rancher , I'm so happy with this purchase & amazed with the pep this rancher has for a 420 , first , second gear has pretty good towing power , hauled 1/2 cord wood no problem, can get up to 60 kms per hr real quick , youll never see me in the repair shop love my Honda ❤
I can’t decide between the rancher and rubicon. Which would be better for right trails, creeks/ mud, and slight hills
That's a real tough one to answer. I would probably lean toward the Rubicon if money isn't an object. It has the locker, more grunt, and more ground clearance. It would be better suited for the mud at a minimum. Appreciate you watching!
@@powersportssteve thanks
ARE the new honda atv's as tough and reliable as early examples? they have more teck, power steering, water cooled, fuel injection.
Nothing is as reliable as older Honda models! lol
That's what I was mainly concerned about that's why I got the solid axle manual rancher but one of the 520's is a manual too.
@@johnnyreb1475 I bought a used 400 four trax last year, low miles. It has solid axle, electronic shift. It took getting used to, and it is very under powered. I will teach my grandkids how to ride on it, but I would never buy a new Honda unless it is manual and solid axle. At least these older machines have tear off fenders.
Gotta agree on the confusing models and options Honda offers...!
I have several Honda ATV's- From the smallest to biggest.
A little 90 and 250 TRX. (2WD only). Little indestructable machines.
My kid's and wife drive them all over the ranch. Just change the oil/air filter once in a while and keep good gas
in em' (or use a fuel stabilizer).
Having owned numerous other makers of quads, I avoid chain driven units because of the exposure,
wear and tear and maintenance of the chain. I think all Hondas are gear driven.
You will proably never have to do any maintenance on the drive unit.....
Get the chain driven quads only if max. speed/performance is your deal...
Get the 4WD models if you plan to be in any serious off road situation in the bigger units.
That being said, my wife's little 250TRX 2WD rarely, if ever, gets stuck.
It's all in knowing how to drive it.... It's actually one of my favorite go to units for running out with a bit of gear to do some work on the property.
I like my 4WD Rancher for it's lower gearing for work, but lacking power steering,
it takes some muscle to steer in 4WD sometimes. Get the PS if available. I can put several
hundred pounds in a trailer and the rancher pulls it no problem.
Our big 680 Rincon lacks power steering but is suprisingly easy to steer in 2 or 4WD.
The gearing on the big boy is tall, great if you want to drive up to 63MPH, but for
my use could be geared a little lower. But it's got so much grunt the gearing isn't an issue.
I just don't need to go 20MPH in 1st gear as I do alot of slow speed puttering while working.
It'll pull a 1000lbs. in a trailer plus I can load it's cargo baskets full and it performs effortlessly.
The rear wheel fender well is a weird location for the battery in the 680.
Did they relocate it in the new, (renamed) TRX700???
Over all, the Honda's are pretty bullet proof reliable and hold their resale value unless you
just plain abuse the things. Dave
just got a 21 rancher es ..
do you need to go off gas when down shifting as well!?
You should let off of the throttle for every shift on the 420 electric shift. Thanks for watching!
@@powersportssteve thanks !
12v plug and pull start should be standard on the rancher. Just another way to get more money out of me. Only other thing is the rear spring is ridiculously weak, had to put out more on a highlifter spring to get what should have come from factory.
I've been sitting on a rancher since 2015. All day on these steep and very rocky trails it has gotten me everywhere I wanted to go. My only complaint is the seat. My friend's Rubicon has so much more comfortable of a seat. I wish my rancher seat was as comfortable.
Is his newer? Reason why I'm asking is I just got a 24 rancher and man that seat feels as soft as you can get besides memory foam. It is it's made of something that is one notch away from memory foam the only difference is it springs right back. That's one of the biggest things that stuck out to me out of the whole thing was how soft the seat is. I would call it more of a cushion than a seat.
@@johnnyreb1475 yep it's a 2023.
Do the Ranchers have a front differential lock?
The Ranchers do not have a diff lock. Thanks for watching!
I have one question for you how is it some brand new ranchers come with the foreman bumper?
Honestly I'm not sure what you are talking about there. Rancher and Foreman models do not share the same bumper. Thanks for watching!
@@powersportssteve that's exactly what I am talking about I've seen new ranchers with foreman bumpers. One was being advertised at a dealership.
@@johnnyreb1475 I'm guessing it was an aftermarket bumper that looks similar to the stock Foreman bumper. There are a lot of options when you start looking at the aftermarket accessories.
How about putting some prices on
I like the hondas for the durability and look. But they do need to get updated with newer screens and more storage, and Features..
Totally agree, and thanks for watching!!
If it isn't broke dont fix it. They are awesome machines
I used to have a fourtrax the same tan color
Good video for new or customers who have been away for several years.
So, which model better for mud?
I would say the foot shift models, they just work and they tend to have the least amount of problems. Thanks for watching!
Hola buenas tardes los precios de las cuatris
You need to bring up price difference between models.
I was going to get a brand new Honda Rancher 420 4x4. I have a 2013 Honda Rancher 420 4x4 with 470 hours.
I have my 2008 Rancher 4x4 foot shift that I bought brand new and it still has the original battery and starts right up at 0 degrees F. This machine will last me the rest of my life.
Abby has that WoW Factor!
I bought a 2024 420 but it doesn't have a display for hrs, can you add a display with that?
I'm assuming you bought a 2wd? They do not have displays. To my knowledge you can not add one, but I could be wrong. Congrats on the purchase and thanks for watching!
Protaper wireless hour meter, I got one for my son's crf110.
57 mph I don’t think so it won’t run that fast in neutral going down a 35% grade hill I know because I have one 52 mph tops
I have a 2019 Rancher TRX420FM1 (absolute base model with manual 4wd/2wd, footshift, no diff lock and straight rear axle) and I love it great machines and super simple. On the other hand, the ES models were the most unreliable pieces of garbage I ever owned
A Honda le falta una cilindrada 1000, se quedó muy chica para competir con Can Am y Polaris.
Tengo una TRX 520 FA y una Rincon 680 en México, falta Honda 1000 CC 🤷🏻♂️ tenemos varios años esperando motor 1000 de Honda en un ATV
I want a rancher.. can you make payments?
You sure can! Come see us some time! Thanks for watching!!
Hate the reverse on the hondas
Where’s the rincon 🤙🏻
The new Rubicon, aka Rincon is coming soon. Thanks for watching!
They need a 750 sxs and quad
why
They have a 700 Pioneer.
also what used to be standard but is now an option is the backup pullstart
I would never call you a dork or say you should not do sales. But can Abby do these videos instead? Lol
Haha, thanks I think... Abby took a new job unfortunately. Thanks for watching!
Video starts at 2:53
You can definitely tell who the salesman of the bunch is when they call it by {UNITS} LMAO.
🤣🤣🤣 thanks for watching!
Money honey. All the add ons cost money.
You need a real quad Suzuki king quad 👍
I hope you are enjoying yours Mr Moore! Thanks for watching!
That could have been a 5 minute video.
Thanks for that beautiful constructive criticism. Thanks for watching!
I usually skip this part
They're all the same underneath haven't changed in years.
That’s not correct. There are major differences in chassis between some of the models. Some have a straight axle in the rear and some are independent. Thanks for watching!
Why can’t Honda make a fully automatic like Polaris ??
They do make fully automatic atv’s, just not a CVT trans like a Polaris. Thanks for watching!
They do!!
jesus can i get a new salesmen? lmao you deff should have went over all of these yourself off camera prior to filming this so you didnt have to keep correcting yourself. also. if a truck or car comes down the block, stop filming. get a cheap editing software and edit your videos and cut all that bs out. this 21 minute video could have been cut down to 7-10 minutes with some research and some editing..just a pro tip 🤷♂
LOL, thanks for all of the "constructive" criticism, really appreciate it! Thanks for watching anyway!! :D
Car salesman
Cheaper buying a Harley Davidson 😂
Uhhh, no, but thanks for watching! 🤣
You talk way too much about nothing.
@@Enolagay1945 🤣🤣 thanks...
Boring me to sleep!
🤣🤣 thanks for watching, enjoy your nap! 🤣
Whatever I tell you
To do. You should have went there lol