I would like to believe Anakin trusted Thorne with Padme's safety to the same degree that he trusted Rex with his own. It is clear from the way he checks his body.
Just so you know. A single venator can have around 7,200 personnal, hundreds of fighters, an entire armor column and several transports. A single venator being deployed is more then enough to control an entire region on the planet. 3 venators taking what was classified as a neutral city with next to 0 planetary defenses outside of whatever troops that were deployed on the planet is honestly kind of overkill considering how skilled clone troopers are in combat.
@@iamgamerfun4032 the separatists brought several battleships and heavy escort ships to most battles. 3 venators might be enough to waste an entire system in a ground campaign, but bringing more than 3 capitol ships should be common sense for fleet battles
In front of the men anakin maintains a certain level of professionalism by referring to her as “senator amidala”. But when it’s just him and Rex it’s “Padme”. I like to think this was a nod to Rex knowing about anakin and padme before the bad batch arc
Only anakin lead fleet would came out of hyperspace and start blasting, then all the fighter/landing craft launch instantly deing deployed, thats shock and awe concept. Just like what he did in Rogue one with the Devastator.
Hes probably reffering to losing a lot of their fighter wings. Them going down is a huge defensive loss, since it opens you up for bombers to get to their capital ships. As for the lasers not doing any visible damage to the cruisers, we only see the beginning of the engagement, so the shields are still functional. At those ranges it takes a while, even for the republic turbo laser batteries to get through.
If Anakin had observed the battlefield a little bit more he would’ve noticed that the separatist capital ships were not firing at the republic ships this is always bothered me when I first watched the episode almost 10 years ago that this was clearly a setup to eliminate Rush Clovis like Yoda told Anakin not all is what it seems and this was something that should have tipped him off something was wrong
@@FGlover63Considering the droid general says “we have fully engaged republicans forces”, I think the lack of separatist counterfire was an oversight rather than a deliberate choice, as they wouldn’t be “fully engaging” the enemy if they weren’t fighting back.
@@twilight_lupinesilva4691 They must get something. It’s been long well established during the duration of the Clone Wars that they’re men, not cannon fodder. Surely such a thing reached the right ears.
I don't know why, but I get super excited when I see the Z-95 Headhunter star fighter! Also, too bad the Republic didn't have those gravity well ships. Could have done some real damage here!
A mix would have served them FAR better. The ARC 170 is am amazing attack aircraft, packing enough firepower to gouge chunks out of any warship or rip apart corvettes/bombers. Have a flight of Z95's flying as escort for them, and any droid fleet is in for a LOT of hurt! They'd probably have been a great replacement for Y Wings instead, as they pack as much firepower while still being decent at defending themselves Playing empire at war I rely on z95s and Arcs entirely as the republic, and they've NEVER let me down!
@@Optimusprime240 The idea of combining ships on their style is not something we have seen too much in the Star Wars canon. There are some, obviously, perhaps the most known ones from the OT: attack on the first and second Death Star, for example. It could have definitely worked in the Republic's favor to do some mixing... Also your comment about Empire at War brought good memories to the surface. Haha, I too remember building, like, over 100 squadrons of ARC-170s. I'd bring a small capital ship, such as an Aclamator or similar and then just call in the horde of fighters. Usually they'd be enough to deal with any type of enemy, be it a space station or smaller enemy fleets. With some, more heavy cruisers and capital ships, I'd usually try to have a Venator or two on the ready to take down anything that proves too much for the fighters. On the downside, the casualties would be very high but building that fleet of ARC-170s is rather easy... This was possible in the old version of the game. The updated one doesn't have ARC-170s as a buildable option, they only spawn from capital ships now. I guess the change was done after the realization of how over powered those fighters truly are!
Honestly if i was a clone i wouldn't want to be a pilot the thought of going up against those fighter droids who have no fear and nothing to lose your fighting a AI pilot that's been programed with skills before it was even turned on f*** that.
Apparently the Vulture droids weren’t very bright, so while they could pull off insane maneuvering they were kind of predictable if you fight enough of them. However they also were supposed to be deployed in massive swarms that would just rip apart most clone fighters long before they got to that point. Also Tri-fighters, which were just coked out of their minds and almost impossible to actually deal with if you’re not a main character. Being a clone pilot is the worst job in the entire republic
Tbf you can see another body at around 2:02-2:03. This all probably happened within a 24-48 hour window, so it's impossible to tell if anyone had time to pick those bodies up.
In Malevolence against Plo, but that wasn't a space battle, that was a massacre. Dooku captured, he was too busy with the Jedi trying to capture him, so couldn't command the battle from the bridge. In the Battle of Coruscant he was mainly an observer on Grievous' flagship. This is the only scene we see him on the bridge of a warship directly commanding the droids.
One of the sad parts is that barring Palpatine's interference, neither side is really the 'good guy'. The Clone Wars brought technical advancements that had stagnated since the Old Republic but the loss is the morals of each side. Still, I like the CIS more than the Republic since they use droids over organics (though, there are still plenty of organics that voluntarily fight) but they are cheap when it comes to their gear, soldiers, and equipment.
If Anakin had observed the battlefield a little bit more he would’ve noticed that the separatist capital ships were not firing at the republic ships this is always bothered me when I first watched the episode almost 10 years ago that this was clearly a setup to eliminate Rush Clovis like Yoda told him not all is what it seems an this was something that should have tipped him off something was wrong
The Galatic empire would need an additional one Trillion Victory 2s, one Trillion Victory 3s, one Trillion Imperial 2s and one Trillion Imperial 3s to The Imperial Navy every 24 hours Until the Galatic Civil War Ends.
The Arc-170s were carrying too big a risk (one Arc-170 blowing up means 3 clone pilots dying) in the final year of the war, especially when the genetic materials for cloning had declined greatly. I know that they were still heavily featured in RotS but that’s my take on it. As for the absence of the V-wing, they were only used in the final days of the clone wars whereas this battle probably took place 8 months to a year before that time
@@MinhVu-yz5rrмежду событиями 6 сезона и 7 сезона разница в 1,5-3 года. Ибо за это время Асока успела повзрослеть, у Энакина успели волосы вырастить и каким-то образом Таркин успел постареть.
It was a global war that why they were stretched thin here in Scipio was just that area which was fast. But for geonosis remeber all the geonosian are fighting.
@JohnG44 Attacking one factory should not exclude the use of air support such as the use of fighters and, more importantly, bombers. They could've cleared some of the anti air defenses. But that's going into extreme detail.
@Redyank1194 yeah but I'm Scipio it was quick only because the separatist didn't even dig in for defense. Geonosis the whole planet of Geonosisian is against you.
Why do the grounded vulture droids at 2:13 not do anything to attack or stop the gunships deploying Anakin and the troops? Is it because of Anakin’s plot armor?
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I would like to believe Anakin trusted Thorne with Padme's safety to the same degree that he trusted Rex with his own. It is clear from the way he checks his body.
By the scenes we saw him in it’s understandable as Thorne warned padme and held out as long as he could
A battle so important that the republic brought more than just 3 Venators
Bruh
It's a battle for the galaxy's central bank. I'm surprised they didn't bring TEN Venators.
@@jrim7887it is so funny tho
Just so you know. A single venator can have around 7,200 personnal, hundreds of fighters, an entire armor column and several transports. A single venator being deployed is more then enough to control an entire region on the planet. 3 venators taking what was classified as a neutral city with next to 0 planetary defenses outside of whatever troops that were deployed on the planet is honestly kind of overkill considering how skilled clone troopers are in combat.
@@iamgamerfun4032 the separatists brought several battleships and heavy escort ships to most battles. 3 venators might be enough to waste an entire system in a ground campaign, but bringing more than 3 capitol ships should be common sense for fleet battles
2:12 Those Vultures already knew they weren't gonna win, and figured "What's the point of even trying?". Poor bois look so depressed.
Mother ship left them behind, poor vulture boys had no home to return to 😢
In front of the men anakin maintains a certain level of professionalism by referring to her as “senator amidala”. But when it’s just him and Rex it’s “Padme”. I like to think this was a nod to Rex knowing about anakin and padme before the bad batch arc
Only anakin lead fleet would came out of hyperspace and start blasting, then all the fighter/landing craft launch instantly deing deployed, thats shock and awe concept. Just like what he did in Rogue one with the Devastator.
*The animation: The lasers not really hitting the enemy ships*
Droid Commander: "My lord, we are suffering heavy damage."
Hes probably reffering to losing a lot of their fighter wings. Them going down is a huge defensive loss, since it opens you up for bombers to get to their capital ships. As for the lasers not doing any visible damage to the cruisers, we only see the beginning of the engagement, so the shields are still functional. At those ranges it takes a while, even for the republic turbo laser batteries to get through.
If Anakin had observed the battlefield a little bit more he would’ve noticed that the separatist capital ships were not firing at the republic ships this is always bothered me when I first watched the episode almost 10 years ago that this was clearly a setup to eliminate Rush Clovis like Yoda told Anakin not all is what it seems and this was something that should have tipped him off something was wrong
@@FGlover63Considering the droid general says “we have fully engaged republicans forces”, I think the lack of separatist counterfire was an oversight rather than a deliberate choice, as they wouldn’t be “fully engaging” the enemy if they weren’t fighting back.
@@FGlover63its not that deep, more likely a budget issue with the animation
He said Heavy losses....
1:55 i feel bad for the commando droid and the b1, they honestly look sad / disappointed that Dooku left without them lol
1:58 you can see how old those gunships are from the withering on the frame and wings
the capital of the banking clan and the CIS ditched it. you would think that would been extremely suspicious
Clone wars made history class fun as a kid.
Damn they just left thorns body out there😢
Seperatists are evil. The Republic would have recovered his body after this battle
What are they gonna do? He’s dead. They’ll give him a proper farewell afterwards
I doubt any of the clones get proper farewells. Hundreds likely die every day. I bet burials are out of the question.
@@twilight_lupinesilva4691 They must get something. It’s been long well established during the duration of the Clone Wars that they’re men, not cannon fodder. Surely such a thing reached the right ears.
@@teleportedbreadfor3daysas far we seen. They get a commemorative wall and thats fuckin it. Fuck the empire
1:43 Clovis was a fool trusting Dooku
Look up the word sus and you see his name
Brave to land in front of the remaining Separatist planes behind them.
2:12
I don't know why, but I get super excited when I see the Z-95 Headhunter star fighter!
Also, too bad the Republic didn't have those gravity well ships. Could have done some real damage here!
Agreed, the Z-95 are sick, and some interdictor cruisers would have done wonders for the Republic
Trying to replace them with the ARC-170 was probably not the Republic's brightest move. _Then again, shit designs happen in wars all the time._
A mix would have served them FAR better. The ARC 170 is am amazing attack aircraft, packing enough firepower to gouge chunks out of any warship or rip apart corvettes/bombers. Have a flight of Z95's flying as escort for them, and any droid fleet is in for a LOT of hurt! They'd probably have been a great replacement for Y Wings instead, as they pack as much firepower while still being decent at defending themselves
Playing empire at war I rely on z95s and Arcs entirely as the republic, and they've NEVER let me down!
@@Optimusprime240 The idea of combining ships on their style is not something we have seen too much in the Star Wars canon. There are some, obviously, perhaps the most known ones from the OT: attack on the first and second Death Star, for example. It could have definitely worked in the Republic's favor to do some mixing...
Also your comment about Empire at War brought good memories to the surface. Haha, I too remember building, like, over 100 squadrons of ARC-170s. I'd bring a small capital ship, such as an Aclamator or similar and then just call in the horde of fighters. Usually they'd be enough to deal with any type of enemy, be it a space station or smaller enemy fleets. With some, more heavy cruisers and capital ships, I'd usually try to have a Venator or two on the ready to take down anything that proves too much for the fighters. On the downside, the casualties would be very high but building that fleet of ARC-170s is rather easy...
This was possible in the old version of the game. The updated one doesn't have ARC-170s as a buildable option, they only spawn from capital ships now. I guess the change was done after the realization of how over powered those fighters truly are!
Honestly if i was a clone i wouldn't want to be a pilot the thought of going up against those fighter droids who have no fear and nothing to lose your fighting a AI pilot that's been programed with skills before it was even turned on f*** that.
Apparently the Vulture droids weren’t very bright, so while they could pull off insane maneuvering they were kind of predictable if you fight enough of them.
However they also were supposed to be deployed in massive swarms that would just rip apart most clone fighters long before they got to that point. Also Tri-fighters, which were just coked out of their minds and almost impossible to actually deal with if you’re not a main character.
Being a clone pilot is the worst job in the entire republic
2:11 love how they dipped out
Imagine all the losses at Geonosis, Jabiim, Muunilinst etc. And you would be the one Clone to die on this Airborne attack...
2:24 WTF
Rip badass clone
Tbf you can see another body at around 2:02-2:03. This all probably happened within a 24-48 hour window, so it's impossible to tell if anyone had time to pick those bodies up.
hes talking about the clone with no arms in background@@GregMFM
I think the commenter was referring to the armless clone in the back
@@1nfinitune533the horrors of war shown bare
The only time we see Dooku in a space battle
No it’s not the only time
Remember the Malevolence and the Dooku Captured episodes
Um im pretty sure he died in a space battle…
In Malevolence against Plo, but that wasn't a space battle, that was a massacre.
Dooku captured, he was too busy with the Jedi trying to capture him, so couldn't command the battle from the bridge.
In the Battle of Coruscant he was mainly an observer on Grievous' flagship.
This is the only scene we see him on the bridge of a warship directly commanding the droids.
One of the sad parts is that barring Palpatine's interference, neither side is really the 'good guy'. The Clone Wars brought technical advancements that had stagnated since the Old Republic but the loss is the morals of each side. Still, I like the CIS more than the Republic since they use droids over organics (though, there are still plenty of organics that voluntarily fight) but they are cheap when it comes to their gear, soldiers, and equipment.
If Anakin had observed the battlefield a little bit more he would’ve noticed that the separatist capital ships were not firing at the republic ships this is always bothered me when I first watched the episode almost 10 years ago that this was clearly a setup to eliminate Rush Clovis like Yoda told him not all is what it seems an this was something that should have tipped him off something was wrong
2:24 Is it me or the clone that appears in the background has no arms
You are indeed correct.
WAIT YEAH NICE EYES LOL that's gotta be the funniest thing I've seen all day
The Galatic empire would need an additional one Trillion Victory 2s, one Trillion Victory 3s, one Trillion Imperial 2s and one Trillion Imperial 3s to The Imperial Navy every 24 hours Until the Galatic Civil War Ends.
Victory class never existed.
Clovis really got screwed over
0:23
Hawk:Me and the boys go on the battle!
I'm trying to make a witty Scipio Africanus pun, but I can't figure it out. Maybe it should've had a Hannibal Lecture from Dooku.
Why the frontline was 2 bx,bro they are super expensive and better than super droid
Wait, Z-95 Head Hunters? Why not the Arc-170s? Or V-wings?
The Arc-170s were carrying too big a risk (one Arc-170 blowing up means 3 clone pilots dying) in the final year of the war, especially when the genetic materials for cloning had declined greatly. I know that they were still heavily featured in RotS but that’s my take on it. As for the absence of the V-wing, they were only used in the final days of the clone wars whereas this battle probably took place 8 months to a year before that time
@@MinhVu-yz5rrмежду событиями 6 сезона и 7 сезона разница в 1,5-3 года. Ибо за это время Асока успела повзрослеть, у Энакина успели волосы вырастить и каким-то образом Таркин успел постареть.
1:26
If only they had this kind of air support during the second invasion of Genosis. That battle was a shit show to be honest.
It was a global war that why they were stretched thin here in Scipio was just that area which was fast. But for geonosis remeber all the geonosian are fighting.
@JohnG44 Attacking one factory should not exclude the use of air support such as the use of fighters and, more importantly, bombers. They could've cleared some of the anti air defenses. But that's going into extreme detail.
@Redyank1194 yeah but I'm Scipio it was quick only because the separatist didn't even dig in for defense. Geonosis the whole planet of Geonosisian is against you.
Those vulture droids had easy and clear shots at those landing ships....
Why did some of the vultures stay to fight?
I guess maybe those vultures belonged to the planet’s defence?
Isn't Scipio in Italy
Droids would leave their own planet and droids behind?
Well yeah?
Why do the grounded vulture droids at 2:13 not do anything to attack or stop the gunships deploying Anakin and the troops? Is it because of Anakin’s plot armor?