Difference between Sig Sauer 716 and AK 203 | Why Indian Army is procuring more Sig Sauer 716?
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Under AK203 rifle deal Indian Armed forces are planning to fulfill the requirement of 770,000 AK-203 rifles, the first 100,000 units would be imported from Russia, and the rest would be manufactured at the Korwa facility under join venture named Indo-Russia Rifles Private Limited, established between the Indian Ordnance Factory Board (OFB), Kalashnikov Concern, and Rosoboronexport, the Russian state agency for military exports having stake 50.5%, 42% and 7.5% respectively.
Talking about Sig Sauer 716 assault rifles, the Ministry of defense has inked two separate deals for it. The first batch of 72,500 rifles has already been delivered, post which India has placed another order of 72,500 rifles in September last year under the fast track procurement procedure.
Now, we will discuss why there is a delay in AK 203 rifles production and procurement.
The price of first 100,000 units of AK 203 that would be imported from Russia was expected to be around US$ 1,100, including the cost related to the transfer of technology and setting up of the manufacturing factory. However, the differences have emerged over the amount of royalty being asked by Russia which is close to US$ 200 per rifle which will be close to US$ 130 million for 650,000 rifles to be produced in India. The OFB has also reported additional cost for acquiring land, setting up the Korwa factory, and training the required manpower. The cost of production quoted by OFB was even higher than what would be incurred if all the units were imported directly from Russia, leading to logjam of the deal.
In the lights of on-going conflict with China at LAC and delay in the finalizing the deal of AK 203, Ministry of defense went ahead with the procurement of Sig Sauer 716 rifles. The original plan was to equip only frontline troops with Sig Sauer rifles because of its higher caliber, lethality and range which is required at border and dealing with counter terrorist operations. However, looking at the successful adoption of Sig Sauer and satisfied with its performance, army has planned to now equip all its infantry battalions with Sig 716 rifles. As reported in The Print, at least two companies (about 100 soldiers each) in all the infantry battalions are being given the Sig 716 - irrespective of whether they are in the field or at peace stations.
Now, that we know little background & history of the deal of both the rifles, lets closely look into their specifications and capabilities.
AK-203 uses 7.62х39 mm calibre bullet having 7.62mm bore and 39mm case length. The Calibre of Sig 716 is 7.62× 51mm which is much powerful than bullets used in AK 203. Specially 7.62×51 round can be used for “SHOOT TO KILL PURPOSE “, which is generally preferred in anti-terrorism Operations.
Sig 716 can fire 650 rounds per minute whereas AK 203 can fire 600 rounds per minute. Talking about their range, Sig Sauer has an effective range of 600m whereas that of AK 203 is 500m.
Both the rifles have only one similarity - they are gas operated rotating bolt rifles.
In simple terms we can say that Sig Sauer is more advance than AK 203 in terms of fire power and performance. Therefore, Indian Army is equipping its battalion with Sig Sauer 716 in interim till the AK 203 deal is finalized.
As per recent report, all the terms for manufacturing AK-203 assault rifles at the Amethi factory have been settled and the decision is pending from Indian Defense Ministry to place orders and initiate the contract.
==========WHOMSOEVER IT MAY CONCERN=============
Most of the pictures clip or BGM included in the Video
Belongs to their Respected Owners and we do not claim rights.
We are using them under following act:
=================DISCLAIMER=======================
UNDER SECTION 107 OF THE COPYRIGHT ACT 1976, ALLOWANCE IS MADE FOR "FAIR USE" FOR PURPOSES SUCH AS CRITICISM,
COMMENT, NEWS REPORTING, TEACHING, SCHOLARSHIP, AND RESEARCH. FAIR USE IS A USE PERMITTED BY COPYRIGHT STATUTE THAT MIGHT
OTHERWISE BE INFRINGING. NON-PROFIT, EDUCATIONAL OR PERSONAL USE TIPS THE BALANCE IN FAVOR OF FAIR USE.
Follow us on social media:
/ analysisdefense
indiandefensea...
/ indian-defense-analysi...
==============THANKS FOR WATCHING!================
PLEASE LIKE SHARE & SUBSCRIBE: "INDIAN DEFENSE ANALYSIS"
Music: Bensound
Russia is notorious for it's armtwisting tactics in defence deals....INS Vikramaditya was prime example, now AK 203
Totally correct.
what is russia doing here?
americans and other english colonies never do arm twisting? 🤣🤣
I have learned somewhere that final configration yet has not been finalized yet for 203 but I would be pleased if India cancel this tender and give a chance to p72 of sss. Indian version AK 203 doesn't seems MODERN design. Adjustable folding butt is necessary for comfort.
First of all... There is no working model of p-72 ready till now... And buttstock and rails don't make a rifle modern. Ak-203 series and other fourth gen russian Ak are generation ahead from its clones available in market.
@Elty Hangsing really...?? Than integrate a telephonic buttstock and rails on insas... and it will a modern rifle 😒. These are secondary improvements...which make a rifle friendly to shooter.
Main upgradation of Ak-203 rifles on older Ak's are on metallurgy like cold hammer forged barrels, then there is new gas block, a hybrid mussle device which improved mussel climb common in 7.62*39 rifles. You can integrate a FAB buttstock later.
The main reason behind the indian version not being that modern is that the army removed those feature to reduce the cost of AK-203. AK family of weapones are choosen because they are the most reliable wepeaon in whole world. P72 from SSS defense is still a new rifle which'll have to go through a period of regorious testing and use to confirm it's reliability.
the Indian version of AK 203 is downgraded because to make it cheaper, but still it has more capabilities than an AK 103.
Originally only folding but stock was approved...
This may have been changed with adjustable but stocks are also supplied as options.
India should procure more Sig 716 rifles and start trials of SSS Defence rifle and try to procure them instead of the AK 203 . Russia is trying to sell us an older rifle which is not good.
Indian Army and government shouldn't waste more time in making decisions. It's high time OFB must take this challenge to build world class rifles for our Armed forces. Without any delay plz scrap any deals with Russians, as they only waste our precious time.
saving few million dollars on rifles would simply delay procurement and only risk lives of soldier operating inferior weapons
Doesn't matter for the bureaucracy. They'll just waste time till their retirement time comes and then continue to leech off the system even after retirement. The men who are the frontline are thrown into the pit with substandard tin foil weapons, their lives are apparently not as valuable as the bhadwa bureaucrats.
Sig Sauer rifle is superior. The projected AK rifle vs the lower rated actual rifle deal will be a disaster. We need to move ahead if Russia deals like this.
this is a scam of the govt buying cheap rifle at such a high price from the russians ..the deal should go to sig saur if the rifle is good , army should get a good rifle .
SiG 716 is actually lighter than Ak-203
Hence government is thinking of procuring Ak-103 which is even lighter than 203 and cheaper
Scrap the ofb
Give the deal to tatas or l&t and they will do a better job
True
SSS Defence has a awesome lineup of firearms. They should be given priority to support locally made products.
घटिया प्रोडक्ट हैं उनके
@@rajvardhanraj7181 Chaahe ek bhi gun chalayi nahi hogi, lekin Internet pe Bakchonharayi karne aa gaya.
@@nisheethshukla6142 😄😄😄😄
SSS Defence is not battle proven and nobody else has shown interest in it.
Sss guns are fine tolerance. For a fast track procurement, it makes more sense to buy open tolerance ak platform, since they can work under any condition and has proven reliability
Its better to move ahead with SIG as the delay caused by AK is putting us in potential risk when China is trying to create trouble at the border.
@@dedogeritterbrudder4928 gun is cheaper bt the bullets are not cheaper
SIG 716 is semi automatic so basically it's a marksman rifle, we need an assault rifle though.
Well what Russia has supplied is AK 103. I won't talk about AK 203 coz that yet to come and I've not touched it till date. Now as I've fired with both Sig 716 and AK103 I can give you an honest comparison between two. First Sig 716 is heavier than AK 103. Recoil of Sig is heavier than AK 103. Sig needs to be preserved under 25 degree C :D yes you heard that right lol. and that gun became so hot during firing you can't fire more than 100 bullets using bare hands. I personally wrap my left palm and fingers with a cloth before starting range :D.. But with AK103 there is no such issue.. last day 1 person picked an AK103 by its muzzle after about 60 rounds firing.. but surprisingly his hands were safe. This issue won't allow personnel to prefer sig in India unless its high altitude and temperature is low. Sig has 7.62*51 mm bullet where AK has 7.62*39mm. Effective range sig 600mtr AK 500mtr... but common.. can you really expect to see beyond 500 mtr during a battle!!! well if you ask me I won't, unless i'm using that weapon with a magnifier. Rate of fire sig wins.. but again .. its always small burst right.. so 650 and 600 don't really matter much. Sig has another issue.. its cocking leaver.. you need to ensure its pressed forward completely before your firing else.. that will slide back and hit your eye or below the eye. one last thing.. in AK 103 its back sight and foresight is awesome.. there is no need to see through a hole.. just adjust your foresight to the back sight gap and you are good to go.. its lovely.
Coming to the conclusion.. If I've a choice to fight with I'll prefer AK103 because its light weight, user friendly, bullets are lighter than sig and don't heat up. I'll choose Sig only if I've a vintage point from where 500mtr + area can be covered and yes that too only if its has a magnifier sight.
Recoil on Sig 716 in full auto is way too high for a comfortable firing...but its well suited for precision shooting.
yes
Very informative. Thanks for sharing.
Auto mode is only used in LMG 's . All other rifles are used in single round or burst mode of 2 to 3 bullets each - as auto mode shooting compromises on accuracy heavily. More use of Auto mode in normal rifles heats up the barrel which causes barrel failure too. So auto mode is not a good feature for soldiers as they aim for a particular target. Auto mode is just useful for terrorists only as they want to kill any civilian available too apart from security personal - so they can stray from target too. AK rifles are never known to be accurate - they are just known to be rugged & maintainence free.
What is the current status of AK 203 Deal.
Liked and subscribed! From North East India. All the best! 😊👏👍
I think India should go for Made in India SIG 716
The barrel length also matters in range and accuracy.
Comparison of it would have been more helpful
yes
Cancel the AK 203.contract and look at the Kalashnikov options from SSS Defence and PLR Systems of India.
Russian Rifles are widely known for there reliability and since we have borders in mountain regions, tropical forests and deserts; so In my opinion we should go for AK 203.
@@AnIndianPatriot LOL. so is the American M16, the FN FAL.
@@FoxbatOfficial yeah that's why the Americans in the Vietnam would pick up an AK 47 and throw away there M16s right?
@@FoxbatOfficial ruclips.net/video/5XpdxbRkSaU/видео.html
@@AnIndianPatriot Dude I know more about Guns then depending on Kalashnikov Promotional Videos. India used the best rival of Kalashnikov from 1960 till 1999 ,= FN FAL ( We call it SLR). It is the INSAS that forced the Army to buy AKs because it fires an intermidiate round.
Please do some reading and dont depend on videos alone..
SIG716 is an Infantry soldier's weapon while Ak203 is regular army soldier's primary Assault rifle switching it from the old INSAS rifles.
And what is the difference between these two?
@@lazyoverworked At forward post & mountainous terrain, 7.62x51 mm NATO rounds of Sig 716 packs a punch (more stoppage power) and has a range advantage over 7.62x39 mm Russian rounds.
@@HemanthKumarJadhav I meant the difference between Infantry soldier and a regular army soldier. I was curious about what you meant. We had a very good 7.62 NATO rifle called SLR, a licensed version of the FAL. That fits your bill...stay safe.
I love SSS defense guns❤️
How hard is to copy these rifles, I can't understand why we can't do it
Thats an awesome move by Indian army. I do agree with Indian army because sig saur 716 has more power and effective than ak203. Sig saur can fire 850 rounds per minute . But the only issue with sig saur is 20rounds magazines while ak203 has 30 rounds of magazine. Apart from this sig saur has every advantage over ak203.
Yes
how the hell can SIG 716 fire 850 rounds per minute? It's a Semi Auto Marksman rifle
@@AnIndianPatriot check about it u ll get the knowledge and don't argue with me.
@@AnIndianPatriot yeh main nahi bolrha yeh baate khud ek Army soldier ne confirm kiya hai 1 minute main 850 rounds fire krti hai. But Tumlogo ki yahi problem hai tumlog bina search kiye you tube mein argue krne aajate ho yeh Galat baat hai Pehle research krliya kro... Aajate hai kaha kaha se.. Dobara argue mt krna mujhse nhi toh aisi beizzati krunga ke yeh hell or fell sab bhul jaoge
@@sanjay80091 damn 850 rounds per minute means a lot of recoil, maybe that's the rate of fire when it is in full auto but nobody is dumb enough to fire a 7.62x51 round rifle in full auto.
The OFB with DRDO had quickly come up with a INSAS design based 7.62 x 51 mm rifle the army sited recoil and rejected it out right
Now when Sig 716 shows a similar recoil the Army is satisfied with it
The only difference between an Indian design from government agencies and foreign imported weapons is the potential for kick backs
Otherwise there is no logical explanation of why a country capable of making Mars and Moon probes apart from its own railway engines is unable to design a simple service rifle for its services.
Whole world knows what OFB produce. Lots of arm force personnel got killed and injured due to defective INSAS rifle. Kargil war is one big example. Now they are making carbine which looks like toy guns played by children.
@@Robdua1968 True the OFB are an incompetent quality lacking manufacturer
What about DRDO if they are equally bad why use their products like Akash and Prithvi
The Government had it wanted could have given orders to the Indian private sector like SSS defense but foreign imports is all that the services are willing to accept even if it leaves country vulnerable and dependent
Besides the INSAS design has gone through several improvements since Kargil or do we believe that Excalibur is equally bad?
And do we rally feel that we can face a threat like China solely based on imported systems that are so costly that we can't acquire them in numbers 🤔?
@@prateekshrivastava7836 i heard that DRDO fired one gun for 38 km range but it fell 25 km in village. Thanks god it didn't have live ammunition.
@@Robdua1968 OK so we should keep importing weapons for eternity then right?
@@prateekshrivastava7836 I was tell about Insas rifles of OFB not DRDO. This rifle killed many Indian soldiers. For 70 years no manufactured rifles and now producing one after another without any trial in real life situations. It is better to use proven rifles as it will be used in lakhs.
MADE IN INDIA JAY HIND JAY MORE GUNS POWERFUL MANUFACTURER IN INDIA WORLD NUMBER ONE INDIANS VARETES OF GUNS POWERFUL NEEDED ETC.👍 1000000 GUNS ADVANCED NEEDED 👍👍👍👍👌👌👌✌✌✌✌💪💪💪💪💪
SIG-716 is a superior weapon..and the best it is much cheaper too..AK-203, is much more expensive..
The footage in this video is a different version of the Sig 716. We bought the Sig 716i tread, which has a longer handguard and direct impingement system. And surprisingly, the Sig 716 is even cheaper than INSAS, so it is a very affordable rifle. If we procure it in large numbers, it will become even cheaper.
you forgot to mention that SIG 716i is a marksman rifle, not Assault rifle
@@AnIndianPatriot I think india is going for Battle rifle style
@@joshuajoaquin5099 Indian Army has ordered 6 lakh AK 203 so they are mainly wanting an assault rifle
Can you make a video on astr defense, indra gun. Which was made by a young entrepreneur of India.
Noted..
Why are you even comparing the two? The 203 isn't even ready.
More over the 716 is a "battle rifle" that can/should be used in a DMR config, which for some reason such channels, general public and the army think is a assault rifle which it is ABSOLUTLY NOT.
The AK 203 is indeed a textbook assault rifle with the added bonus of calibre compatibility, folding stock, picatinny rails for modern optics mounting.
if the indian army ends up using the 716 as an assault rifle it will be a COMPLETE WASTE of the capabilities of the SIG 716 in a DMR configuration
@@garandthomb6982 but that's not always true. That 1A1 we used was a battle rifle but not a good DMR platform. M-14 is another example although after getting rid of that wood furniture, it has seen a revival of sorts in the 2000s ...
716 is better than 203
Remember this deal is also done for Technology absorption similar to Su 30 MKi deal which lead to development of indigenous mission computer ,RWR ,MAWS ,SPJ etc....
The Sig Sauer 716 is superior to the AK-203.
Two different tools for two different jobs.
The 716 is for distance. It is accurate and in a caliber that is best suited to
longer ranges.
The AK family is better suited to combat at short and intermediate ranges.
Troops hitting an objective with AK's while under overwatch by marksmen with the 716 would be a fine combination.
soldiers should be adapted to one system , they will be more efficient if they use one system continuously , switching over one system to another creates a problem . army should go for sig sauer ,since its a good rifle , instead of buying russian crap sig sauer should be made standard assult rifle for the infantry .
@@krishnenduray1758 A mix is preferable.
It allows for a greater flexibility ,in tactical employment, by troops*.
AK's can be effective out to 700 (+) in the right hands ,but aren't good at longer ranges. A dedicated DMR is great out to (and beyond) 1,000 meters. In confined spaces they suffer...and so does anyone nearby.
No ,one, tool can doo all jobs.
* Using similar (looking) small arms ,is, a bonus. It makes it harder to identify the troops with the DMR.
@@schrodingersgat4344 That's true
@@krishnenduray1758 Russian weapons are actually better than the ones made in the West as they are way more reliable. What's the use of a rifle that won't work in the harsh Indian environment?
@@colonelradec5422 I wouldn't say that.
The two are ,essentially, equal.
The Russian philosophy of design and those followed in the Western nations differ in their doctrine of employment.
The end user is the determining factor.
How well and often are the troops trained? What is the logistical system like? How much maintenance can the arms expect to receive? What tactics are employed? What level of training do the troops receive?
If one answers these questions, then they may select what suits them best.
I am a fan of the Kalashnikov. [I have had them (in one form or another) since I turned 15....I am ,now 42]
It doesn't accomplish every task I might require a firearm for.
That's why my home has several rifles and pistols from which I may select what is most appropriate.
The same is true when scaled up for a national military.
Russian weapons are excellent. They have to be. They are designed to be inexpensive and to function no matter how bad the troops receiving them.maybtreat them.
Western designs are excellent as well. They are designed around the idea that a national army will have the infrastructure to operate them.
In terms of climate, my home {The State of South Carolina} is not dissimilar to much of India. We have manufacturers like FN, Palmetto State Armory* and PTR* all turning out arms that can be sworn by. Next door in The State of Georgia, Glock has had a factory for 30 years.
I'd trust any of their products.
* PSA manufactures AK's and AR-15/M-16 families of Rifles
* PTR makes a line of Heckler and Koch based rifles.
OFB is worst organisation for making weapons
Because it's government department
It should be private like tata
India likes an Original Sig 716 from US not duplicate.
Sig 716 recoil like hell . Difficult to aim continuously as it sway much than 5.56. Not to mention it hurt your shoulder more, like those 303 of old days. More the recoil less the concentration of aiming.
You are not aware that SIG 716 supplied at India is having only semi Automatic mode ! Please correct.
INDIA should NOT buy outdated ak203 version.
Instead should buy more SIG 760 & our own SS DEFENCE & Israeli Tavor rifles with transfer of technology with same specs which are far better than Russian cheap stuff.
I have no clue why people are comparing these 2 platforms, its absolute insanity.
These are 2 different weapon platforms meant for 2 entirely different combat roles. the fact that ppl think AK203 vs SIG716 is a fair comparison shows how little people know about guns and their combat uses.
The AK 203 is an "assault rifle" chambered in an "intermediate cartridge" of 7.62×39 meant as a standard infantry rifle. It has the advantages of AK platform muscle memory/training, muzzle device for recoil compensation, natively produced calibre, folding stock capability and as a developmental feature- Picatinny Rails for grips and optics mount.
The SIG 716 is a "battle rifle" chambered in a "full power cartridge" of 7.62×51 NATO can/should be used as a designated marksman rifle (DMR). It has the advantages of the AR platform in the configuration of a battle rifle. 7.62×51 NATO "full power" for greater penetration at long range, complete Picatinny rail system to mount telescopic sights/ LPVOs for long range usage, 20rd mag to reduce weight for a "DMR" and lack for need to have a 30rd mag of 7.62NATO.
To put it into perspective a logical comparison would be:
The AK203 vs the AR15/ M4 (5.56×54NATO) series or IWI Galil series of rifles.
The SIG716 vs the AK308 or FN SCAR-17S
"Battle rifles" being used in their stock config became obsolete a lifetime ago (in part due to the introduction of the Intermediate cartridges). Nowadays its best used as a DMR with scopes/LPVOs to take advantage of the full power cartridge at a longer range.
THESE 2 ARE NOT IN COMPETITION. THEY DO NOT HAVE INTERCHANGEABLE ROLES. 2 DIFFERENT COMBAT ROLES REQUIRE 2 DEFERENT PLATFORMS.
@IndianDefenseAnalysis this comparison is completely baseless and shows a lack of understanding of different rifle platforms.
the SIG 716 is a battle rifle and the AK 203 is an assault rifle. 2 completely different roles for 2 completely different weapon systems.
also im pretty sure the SIG716 has a rate of fire of 650 rounds per minute and the AK203 has a rate of rifle of 700 rounds per minute so thats just straight up wrong?? (how tf can a 20rd, .308 weapon have a higher rpm then a 30rd, 7.62×39 weapon?)
Really don't understand,why government is going to ink the AK 203 without the modern accessories just to cut the price where a lot of money is being expensed for other equipment.I think the basic weapons of our soldiers should not be compromised.
Even for the sig 716 ,the scope is not included.
Sss defense trichi rifle is same as ak203
India should use 3D printing technique and alternate techniques to study ballistic characteristics for speedy design validation
Biggest orders for crpf and bsf are given for Trichy assault rifle, no order for P72. While Ak203 is better than Trichy so i think army is doing right.
Trichy assault rifle is a copy of bulgarian AR-M1F rifles in service with Indian army.
@@sahilnegi4071 i know that.but it's getting very big number of orders from central forces.
we should drop the ak plan then. sig seems better in almost all aspects and easier to acquire for army
can we put a foregrip to sig sauer716 .to control the recoil even better
yes it can be.
@@IndianDefenseAnalysis I think India should also focus on production of m4 carbine
what each and every 716 more urgently needs is a telescopic sight/LPVO in order to make use of its best capabilities
i prefer 716 rifle
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, so many options in India now(p72, kalyani, ishapore etc). Jaago mohan pyare, jaago
As for long range DMR type requirements, I think the Army should look at M110, HK M27, and the luxurious FN SCAR-H/SCAR-L. It might cost a bit more but it must've been aimed for selected elites, so no fuss.
FN Scar has quality problems...but HK products are good.
The FN SCAR-L and the HK M-27 are actually Assault Rifles because they use the 5.56x45mm cartridge, which makes them less suitable for hitting long range targets effectively.
@@sumitd500 Also, the FN SCAR is just expensive AF.
bro the SIG 716 is not supposed to be used as an assault rifle it is by definition a "battle rifle" that can/should be used in a DMR config. it is completely baseless to compare the AK 203 and SIG 716
@@colonelradec5422 DMRs were never meant for hitting long distances anyway.
We should buy more sg716 riffel more competitive .
Get only urgent requirements one and design fast track locally
No one can match USA production
What a shame - they are complicating an already complex supply chain.
They should've bitten the bullet and gone with Sig completely.
Buy sss defence or ishapur assault rifle based on slr
Sig has very high recoil so it's not actually an assault rifle it's more a marksman rifle, India currently lacks a true assault rifle and as far for OFB it's the shitiest crap. The dream of India making world class rifles will only come true with the intervention of private firms into the game and as far for SSS defence ig it was not chosen as it's not a battle proven rifle also it's unknown if the SSS defence could actually meet the deadline but anyways it's a good step indeed.
Why obf can't produce an effective rifle like sig
Ye ek aur video ka topic hai 😁
OFB has this same AR 10 on which the SiG 716 is based on sample since 1957.
They and DRDO are so dumb that they cant even copy it.
@@IndianDefenseAnalysis 😃
SSS defence.army commission lobby in and out and govt shoud be ashamed of themselves for giving a deal to russian rather than promoting our own company.
Yes true that the original AK-203 to be manufactured for Indian army is not the same which is circulated in social media and youtube videos. One which will be manufactured in india will be much simillar to AK-103 (go to 5:18 in video) with some improvement.
Recently a new video posted by Economic Times on there you tube channel regarding AK-203. There youn can clearly see the russian instructor mentioning that the original Indian version will be slightly different than what they are displaying.
One more thing to notice which no one is talking about in indian defence fourm is that the Pakistan Ordinance Factory will be manufacturing PK-21 which is a licensed varient for Russian AK-103.
Russian trying to make as much as they can from Indo-pak rivalry.
And one more thing i belive that the most advance AK is IWI galil Ace
Absolutely Kunal 👍
Bhai kab banegi ak 203. 3 Saal se sun rahe h
But better than insas still our soldiers using insas.....atlest government should provide our sss defense guns to swat( i saw karnataka swat team on tv 1 commando was using insas ) or those guns should provide to cobra force who are fighting against naxal...
Instead of buying rifles why don't you increase the salary of frontline soldiers like in Kashmir. Spend on Increasing their morale. This is important.
Instead of spending on rifles spend on designing bullets which can be used on any Indian rifles. Design heavy machine guns which can be carried to frontline.
So why is govt not interested in manufacturing sig saug gun in India
Lets see if the Indian defense wants the Indian army look more advanced & inferior in the war conditions or doesn’t care about military development as the army is the first line of defense. The choice the defense makes will prove what kind of army they want for the country, advanced high-tech & powerful army or powerful but old tech & not superior.
Since Russia is making so much fuss.....India should either go for indigenous private options or go for the Israeli Galil ACE if they want a 7.62x39mm rifle bad. The ACE is better than every 7.62x39 mm AK and has got all the features of a modern assault rifle. Israelis give value for money atleast
Thr Sig dosen't have a rotating bolt.
Why is it a good idea to arm the Frontline troops with a semi auto rifles instead of full auto asult rifles?
Because range and lethality matters at frontline. In close quarter combat its rate of fire, light weight, less recoil and easy handle matters.
Whatever happened to INSAS rifles? Indian Army not supporting India made weapons? Does it not want to work with the OFB factory that makes those guns.
OFB = Delay + Delay + delay + Delay + Delay + BAD QUALITY !
Russians won’ t sell anything at a loss to India. so the unofficial information provided by you regarding AK 203 compromising its fittings at a lower price seems more logical.
Both are better then the insas shit we use
Sir ap Hindi main video karte to hamen samejnemain aasani hoti.🙏🏻
Aaj bhi interview liya, process is continuing.. trust me I want hindi videos very badly..
@@IndianDefenseAnalysis Sir I think apne bohut ache tarike se sabkuch samjhaya... lekin bohut sare logon ko bohot sare galatfahmi hai isko dur karna bohut jaruri hain 😫
Specially hamare desh mein thora sa vi kuch biprit hua to bawal mach jata hai... Raffle 🙏🏻
The Chinese, American make their own weapon, Why India not able to make her own riffle.
Why India can't produce it's own rife??...the same money can be used in R&D...why still relay on other countries for a primary weapon???
When ak203 is not the same than that of Russian ak2)03.why r we going into this deal. Our own Sss defence can deliver a better one given the financial support.
you buy the production line, that s more important than the rifle.
if you know how to do with it, you can produce a better gun than the original one
Sig recoil is a little high to handle
Yes it is.. and with Indian LMG round it will be even more.
Cut down the barrel length and it will be extremely violent because it uses the most powerful 7.62X51 round.
True
@Chitragupta even the range reduces with the a cut down barrel. SiG has 16.5 inch barrel. The 7.62X51 round was designed around 21 inch barrel.
What is a AK 2 Knot 3??? LOL
When it comes to assault rifles, American are far ahead of the Russian
Nope. American hardware is high maintenance, finicky yet accurate. The AK is maintanence free but more or less accurate up to 300 mtrs. One cannot really hit beyond that with open sights anyway.
@KJM not many agencies use M16s anymore. If you mean the AR platform, it's not fragile per se but it's a platform that is certainly high maintenance and better used by highly trained troops who can get the optimal usage out of it.
cancel ak 203 deal .... russia bhot nakhre kar raha hai .... arsenal ne bhi ak 203 ki copy banai hai uski reliability same hai uski deal karlo wo sasti bi padti hai .... arsenal ak india me bhot famous hai Trichy assault rifle uski copy hai
An old version of an ak 203 is still better than Sig Sauer. You have to understand why India scrapped INSAS. AK is almost zero maintenance weapon it's like buying a Ford for cheap but then you find you do not have get spares anywhere when your car breaks down. 100 crore was the dearness assessed by our CAG over life of our million soldiers however same institute is silent over mega project of bullet train. It doesn't find that project or in fact statue of unity a least bit waste of public money but arming our soldiers at the border with somewhat advanced weapons is oh TOO COSTLY.
Sigs, Barreta, Colt, FN Herstal, H&K are the companies we should go for emergency procurements.
And for the permanent solutions our own companies are the only go to option. And yes SSS Defence seems to be the pioneers here.
Why we still need to buy even rifle from other countries.why india still cannot make rifle even after more than 60 yrs of reseach ...we cannot even think of figting china...we r still completely dependent on other countries....shame...
Bhai hindi ma bhi vasan diya kar .we r indian not from amarica.
hindi may bolo
India ki defence system dunia ma sobsa picha ha...... Esi leya ase.... pas ki Desh India ki opar itna habi hota ha..... Yea sab da ka koi faida nahi ha..... Jab tak yea sob korida ga tab tak Afghanistan ma Taliban fata ho jayaga...... Oska bad India ki bari......
Not only russia all these comunist blocks are bunch of wayward dacoits thinking &im proper timings in defence purchases
Russia ki na ka nosda
What about the ammo imported from US
India is not using US made ammunition.It is using locally made ammunition which is cost effective but has got more recoil.
Ammo are from OFB which give more recoil. Army should buy ammo from SSS defence.
I think Modiji last year innaugaurated the factory for making AK 203.now for wat the land is required for setting up the factory. Or it ws also a jumla