"A writer should always play to their strengths. If you don't know tech, emphasize character. If you're bad at character but good with plots, then play up clever storytelling. If you're bad at all that stuff, work on Enterprise." I've been watching Chuck for a good bit and this is the rawest line I think I've heard from him yet. Goddamn.
My headcannon on holograms is thus: The 'holomatrix' is in essence a virtual brain, and that is where the holograms 'soul' resides. If you disrupt the holomatrix it is the equivelant of mind-wipiing a droid in Star Wars. Even though the computer could re-project the hologram, it would be a fresh new matrix, in essence a complete re-boot with a completely new 'soul'.
I think an idea of an evil hologram wasn't explored enough in Star Trek. An enemy that can touch you but you can't touch it has so much potential. I think there has only been a couple episodes in the entirety of Star Trek that worked with that.
@@Idunnoyouguessit Hologram character to Kirk - "Why, hello there bigboy", Kirk - "Computer, 2 more sisters", Riker (banging on Holodeck em, buklhead) - "Open up - I wanna join in", Reg Barclay (awaking from the nightmare) - "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH".......
The weird thing about making Paris a nurse is his post is on the bridge. And as a pilot no less. Running from arguably the farthest point from sick bay, all the way down to treat patients in an emergency, seems like a remote scenario when everyone else is incapacitated.
@@fmsyntheses Ah, a man with a firm grasp of orbital mechanics. As inhabitants of the Smoke Ring say: "East takes you Out Out takes you West West takes you In In takes you East Port and Starboard bring you back." (And yes, that _is_ a fairly accurate description of moving around in orbit.)
I think the REAL problem is Harry deciding to flirt with her cause she's hot. It would have been more interesting if he just tried to be her freind and have her not understand the concept. She's got her tough girl thing going and have Harry just say to her, you've been through a lot. You've had your whole identity changed twice and I just want to help. Of course doing that would require the writers to want to DO something with Harry.
@@scionofdorn9101 while this is true Harry is in Starfleet and has a few years under his belt now. He shouldn't be acting like a 17 year old who hasn't been laid yet.
All you had to say is that it was Lisa Klink. Fucks sake, not all of her episodes are bad, but there is definitely a running theme through her scripts of treating women like objects or children. It's really glaring.
Seven displayed interest in Harry. Harry reciprocates. Writers then destroy that because Harry can never be happy. Then later Seven is retconned as a lesbian who travels back in time every day to personally punch Harry in the privates. Harry begs for death, but even death means nothing. He just keeps coming back.
@@muigokublack6487 There's nothing gay about it! Except for all the obvious subtext.; And the fact that in an alternate timeline, he married Tom's half Ocampa daughter, 'cause it was as close as he could get to being with Tom.
@8:49 How does he put a hand THROUGH her chest? Unless she has holo emitters inside her body he really couldn't squeeze her heart or am I missing somthing?
Maybe a REALLY well-timed version of that time the doctor slapped Tom but was incorporeal when Tom slapped him? Through the chest wall, then squeeze the heart. Maybe it's less seamless when tissue is in the way? Sort of going in and out of physical space between Torres' cells?
We did it, the impossible search has been completed: We have found a version of Arnold Rimmer that is more pathetic than the one on the show Red Dwarf. Which is even funnier to me because I think the episode with Ace rimmer was one of the first episodes of Red dwarf I ever saw.
@@NeilSonOfNorbert Mr. Fibble is nice but nothing beats the doctor fighting low rimmer. Low rimmer: I want to hurt you. The doctor: well why would you want to do that? Low rimmer: because...... I'm not very nice person.
11:05 : New comment to an old video, but...... In Harry's defense (weird to say that, I know 😅), what he is doing is being a true Gentleman, and not taking advantage of someone who is unaware of the emotional connections that occur (usually, unless you're Kirk or Riker) with being 'Intimate', due to her 'emotionless' Borg nature. If this had happened near the end of Voyager's run, he probably would have consented.....or still run away because Kim 😏
And now I have the idea of an alien race that insists on asking about every apparent safety violation or something that seems out of place after that bit with the cable.
Seven was assimilated as a child and I doubt the Borg would see mating habits of any species as important information and thus wouldn't program it into drones, they would note it exists and the basic reproductive facts, just in case they need to grow drones when there's no one to assimilate in that aria. So seven in this case is much more akin to an adolescent, with an adolescents knowledge of sex. That means Hairy was into a women who was emotionally, sexually, and romantically stunted, so stunted in fact I would question her ability to consent to having sex.
That's a very interesting perspective. It puts some things into a very different light. I don't know if I fully agree with it. But I can certainly see where it's coming from.
In Star Trek-TNG episode Q Who, the Enterprise is thrown lightyears into Borg space by Q. Cmdr Riker, Lt Worf and Data beam onto Borg Cube. Riker finds a nursery where Biological infants are in incubators. The Borg are Biological life forms yet almost after birth are given implants. So, surely they know about sexual reproduction. Therefore 7 of 9 would also know about it.
i had to back up to make sure I heard that right... 5 MILLION GIGAWATTS... 5 million times 1 BILLION watts... so that's 5 quadrillion watts I have 2 main issues with this... 1, it seems to me that Harry would know what a quadrillion is 2, the idea that so much power is coursing through that tiny ass cable is laughablethat thing looks 1-2 inches thick now I realize the writer probably chose those words because they sound cool, and theey know people are aware of gigawatts because of Back to the future... but that's still stupid...
The way Harry is treated over the course of the series I just have to ask, Did Garrett Wang mistake one of the writers for a production assistant or something?
The best thing I can say about Voyager: it saved me from getting my hopes up about Enterprise, Discovery, Lower Decks and 3 movies. They still fooled me with Picard, but I was cured quickly.
Glad you're living in willful ignorance then. We're all so happy that you're not going to keep leaving remarks about shows that others might enjoy, hm?
Honestly a realistic depiction of AI. they'd look at all our shedding skin cells, oils, odors, smelly bodily fluids and think... why am I keeping these meatbags around again?
Why is the idea of an ai disgusted by organics some how more “realistic” than one fascinated or indifferent to them? This seems to be based on the logic that “dark and gritty things are more realistic”.
Harry was an idiot for not accpeting Seven's offer, I know far too many people would but then again Harry kim is the punch bag off disappointment, hell Nog ranks higher than him in under 4 years
According to the Delta Flyers podcast with Tom and Harry's actors apparently Jeri Ryan did ask for any other takers after filming that scene, and got a a loud chorus of 'yes!' to her offer
4:55 Serious shoutout for the Rimmer reference - nice one and great review - thank you! [For the record, both DS9 & Voyager stink on a stick, whereas Babylon 5 remains the absolute best]. In Valens Name.
Of your reviews that I’ve seen, I think I laughed at this one the most. Thank you.
"A writer should always play to their strengths. If you don't know tech, emphasize character. If you're bad at character but good with plots, then play up clever storytelling. If you're bad at all that stuff, work on Enterprise."
I've been watching Chuck for a good bit and this is the rawest line I think I've heard from him yet. Goddamn.
That line killed me!
My headcannon on holograms is thus: The 'holomatrix' is in essence a virtual brain, and that is where the holograms 'soul' resides. If you disrupt the holomatrix it is the equivelant of mind-wipiing a droid in Star Wars. Even though the computer could re-project the hologram, it would be a fresh new matrix, in essence a complete re-boot with a completely new 'soul'.
Hey this episode tickles all three of Torres' moods.
I think an idea of an evil hologram wasn't explored enough in Star Trek. An enemy that can touch you but you can't touch it has so much potential. I think there has only been a couple episodes in the entirety of Star Trek that worked with that.
Kirk - "Computer",
Computer -"Working",
Kirk - "You're [insert Shatneresque pause] shit",
Computer - "Concur",
Kirk - "Piss off then",
Computer - "Done".
Kirk - "Right, where's that little knobhead Charlie X got to?".....
@@daveroche6522 Is this before or after it tries to seduce him and he desperately has to try not to bone the hologram?
@@Idunnoyouguessit Hologram character to Kirk - "Why, hello there bigboy",
Kirk - "Computer, 2 more sisters",
Riker (banging on Holodeck em, buklhead) - "Open up - I wanna join in",
Reg Barclay (awaking from the nightmare) - "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH".......
There's always the chance we'll see more Badgey...
The weird thing about making Paris a nurse is his post is on the bridge. And as a pilot no less.
Running from arguably the farthest point from sick bay, all the way down to treat patients in an emergency, seems like a remote scenario when everyone else is incapacitated.
It's space, you point the ship at a thing and hit the gas
@@fmsyntheses in a battle? with casualties pouring in?
@@safebox36 Can't have casulties if you ram everyone to death!
"Mister Paris, ramming speed!"
*Unzips pants*
@@fmsyntheses Ah, a man with a firm grasp of orbital mechanics.
As inhabitants of the Smoke Ring say:
"East takes you Out
Out takes you West
West takes you In
In takes you East
Port and Starboard bring you back."
(And yes, that _is_ a fairly accurate description of moving around in orbit.)
just use the medical transporter lol
I will say the actor who played Dejeran was pretty good. Nicely unhinged.
Leland Orser is a great character actor. Most people remember him for "GET THIS THING OFF OF ME" in Se7en.
I think the REAL problem is Harry deciding to flirt with her cause she's hot. It would have been more interesting if he just tried to be her freind and have her not understand the concept. She's got her tough girl thing going and have Harry just say to her, you've been through a lot. You've had your whole identity changed twice and I just want to help. Of course doing that would require the writers to want to DO something with Harry.
Yeah, because nobody EVER flirts with someone because they're hot.
@@scionofdorn9101 while this is true Harry is in Starfleet and has a few years under his belt now. He shouldn't be acting like a 17 year old who hasn't been laid yet.
All you had to say is that it was Lisa Klink. Fucks sake, not all of her episodes are bad, but there is definitely a running theme through her scripts of treating women like objects or children. It's really glaring.
5:08 5 Billion Gigawatts!?
The Doc got Marty back to the future for only about one.
Actually, it was 1.21.
Revulsion seems to be a wonderful microcosm of SF Debris' thoughts on Voyager.
What? No not the episode, I meant the title.
Might have been stronger without the opening scene reavealing he was the crews killer right from the start.
He's Arnold Arnold Arnold Rimmer...
"Captain, we've modified the hand phasers - they now have a 'Getting-Torres-to-shut-the-fuck-up' setting".
"If you're bad at all that stuff, work on Enterprise."
Brutal...but true.
This episode is all over the place. Not my fav...but you did a great job at synopsis.
This episode is always confusing for me to remember because I so frequently experience revulsion while watching Voyager
Seven displayed interest in Harry. Harry reciprocates. Writers then destroy that because Harry can never be happy. Then later Seven is retconned as a lesbian who travels back in time every day to personally punch Harry in the privates.
Harry begs for death, but even death means nothing. He just keeps coming back.
Besides we all know Harry has the hots for Tom.
Awesome Harry.
@@muigokublack6487 There's nothing gay about it!
Except for all the obvious subtext.; And the fact that in an alternate timeline, he married Tom's half Ocampa daughter, 'cause it was as close as he could get to being with Tom.
@@BaconMinion Poor Harry. Not only is he Voyager's butt monkey but also starcrossed lover of Tom.
@8:49 How does he put a hand THROUGH her chest? Unless she has holo emitters inside her body he really couldn't squeeze her heart or am I missing somthing?
Maybe a REALLY well-timed version of that time the doctor slapped Tom but was incorporeal when Tom slapped him? Through the chest wall, then squeeze the heart.
Maybe it's less seamless when tissue is in the way? Sort of going in and out of physical space between Torres' cells?
14:53 Enterprise? Need to update this review and change it to "write for Star Trek Picard."
Voyager and an episode titled "Revulsion".
Talk about low hanging fruit.
I came for the commentary.
I stayed for the Jayneway impressions.
I like this episode and I don't even like horror. I think it's the line about being made in their image, it speaks to an AI having an identity crisis.
since you called him rimmer and he's evil, i am now mentally replacing him with low rimmer.
We did it, the impossible search has been completed:
We have found a version of Arnold Rimmer that is more pathetic than the one on the show Red Dwarf.
Which is even funnier to me because I think the episode with Ace rimmer was one of the first episodes of Red dwarf I ever saw.
Not Mr Flibble Rimmer?
@@NeilSonOfNorbert Mr. Fibble is nice but nothing beats the doctor fighting low rimmer.
Low rimmer: I want to hurt you.
The doctor: well why would you want to do that?
Low rimmer: because...... I'm not very nice person.
6:01 brother is just speaking his mind
11:05 : New comment to an old video, but......
In Harry's defense (weird to say that, I know 😅), what he is doing is being a true Gentleman, and not taking advantage of someone who is unaware of the emotional connections that occur (usually, unless you're Kirk or Riker) with being 'Intimate', due to her 'emotionless' Borg nature.
If this had happened near the end of Voyager's run, he probably would have consented.....or still run away because Kim 😏
Poor Garrett Wang, Kim was so badly written.
Why didn't we at least get Torres and the hologram getting into a rage-fight?
And can we call this Chekov's Cable?
I enjoyed this one
When Torres got out "anger management issues" by a hologram...I remember this one.
And now I have the idea of an alien race that insists on asking about every apparent safety violation or something that seems out of place after that bit with the cable.
Who is this Arnold Rimmer that Chuck chose to name Gold Face as?
Take out the fact that he's a hologram and Rimmer is essentially Neelix.
Seven was assimilated as a child and I doubt the Borg would see mating habits of any species as important information and thus wouldn't program it into drones, they would note it exists and the basic reproductive facts, just in case they need to grow drones when there's no one to assimilate in that aria. So seven in this case is much more akin to an adolescent, with an adolescents knowledge of sex. That means Hairy was into a women who was emotionally, sexually, and romantically stunted, so stunted in fact I would question her ability to consent to having sex.
"... you will use your distinctive boobies to service.......... us".
That's a very interesting perspective. It puts some things into a very different light. I don't know if I fully agree with it. But I can certainly see where it's coming from.
I mean I always thought he was into a statuesque blonde 20-something in skintight pajamas
But your way sounds more titillating
In Star Trek-TNG episode Q Who, the Enterprise is thrown lightyears into Borg space by Q. Cmdr Riker, Lt Worf and Data beam onto Borg Cube. Riker finds a nursery where Biological infants are in incubators. The Borg are Biological life forms yet almost after birth are given implants. So, surely they know about sexual reproduction. Therefore 7 of 9 would also know about it.
@@paulhunter6742 shhhhhhh you're ruining the narrative
i had to back up to make sure I heard that right...
5 MILLION GIGAWATTS... 5 million times 1 BILLION watts... so that's 5 quadrillion watts
I have 2 main issues with this... 1, it seems to me that Harry would know what a quadrillion is
2, the idea that so much power is coursing through that tiny ass cable is laughablethat thing looks 1-2 inches thick
now I realize the writer probably chose those words because they sound cool, and theey know people are aware of gigawatts because of Back to the future... but that's still stupid...
yay moor!
The way Harry is treated over the course of the series I just have to ask, Did Garrett Wang mistake one of the writers for a production assistant or something?
The best thing I can say about Voyager: it saved me from getting my hopes up about Enterprise, Discovery, Lower Decks and 3 movies. They still fooled me with Picard, but I was cured quickly.
Glad you're living in willful ignorance then. We're all so happy that you're not going to keep leaving remarks about shows that others might enjoy, hm?
Honestly a realistic depiction of AI. they'd look at all our shedding skin cells, oils, odors, smelly bodily fluids and think... why am I keeping these meatbags around again?
Why would AI have the ability to perceive smell? The are computers, laptops do not possess the sense of smell.
Why is the idea of an ai disgusted by organics some how more “realistic” than one fascinated or indifferent to them? This seems to be based on the logic that “dark and gritty things are more realistic”.
@@starwarsnerd100 I'm gay and realistic AI would probably judge organics entirely on how much they get in the way while it tries to do math.
This is why you hard code an AI to be benevolent and not care about any of this stuff. Make them happy to clean your literal shit.
I nover hated this episode, and overlook stuff with Seven and harry, but in reruns, I tend to leave after the roast.
if you are bad at all that work on enterprise ROFLMAO
Voyager had too many episodes with the doctor as a main character. I dislike the doctor as much as you dislike Nelix.
Harry was an idiot for not accpeting Seven's offer, I know far too many people would but then again Harry kim is the punch bag off disappointment, hell Nog ranks higher than him in under 4 years
According to the Delta Flyers podcast with Tom and Harry's actors apparently Jeri Ryan did ask for any other takers after filming that scene, and got a a loud chorus of 'yes!' to her offer
@@stryke-jn3kv lol poor kim
Poor Dumb Harry.
4:55 Serious shoutout for the Rimmer reference - nice one and great review - thank you! [For the record, both DS9 & Voyager stink on a stick, whereas Babylon 5 remains the absolute best]. In Valens Name.