Yes it is necessary to use such language if you're trying to make an informational video. And RUclips has sucked for a while now. They pick and choose who can use their 1st amendment right
The fact that Brian invited his brother to go with him that evening even makes this disappearance more mysterious he clearly had no intentions of disappearing
I see this outing as a last goodbye. I believe he walked away from everything. He wasn’t that intoxicated to have wandered off into oblivion. I do not believe he was happy, and don’t believe his intentions were to marry that woman. Since he already said to her find someone else. Could have felt bad so he stuck with her, but it was fake. To me, disappearing is not as hard as everyone thinks. I have done it, but reappeared.. meaning I ran away and came back some years later.. he didn’t take anything because he didn’t want any of it, didn’t want to be found. Where did he go is the question.. my guess is he had money set aside.. cash. And took off to different parts of the country then eventually overseas under an assumed name. Crazier shit has happened.. whitey bulger for instance
Clint is such a scapegoat in this story. If you dig further his actions make sense. He was helping, until Brian’s dad very publicly started accusing him of knowing more than he did. After this point he lawyered up, and the lawyer (as lawyers do) advised him to stop talking. It’s very reasonable of him to have stayed away from the case if you know the whole story. It’s also never a good idea to take a polygraph, guilty or innocent.
Always lawyer up, even when innocent. I would have done the same thing. Lots of innocent people have their lives ruined for being suspected and convicted of murders they have not committed by talking to the police without legal counsel.
Lie detector tests are not admissible in court, so it wouldn't have hurt him to take it. Why did Brian's dad suddenly accuse him? Was something he said/did or was acting suspicious for Brian's father to suddenly make this accusation.
@@benjalucian1515"wouldn't have hurt him to take it" Ahh, yes, I'm sure failing a polygraph whilst the missing's father already accusing you publicly wouldn't been no sweat whatsoever.
I’ve followed true crime all my life. This is one of the cases that still utterly baffles me. It seems like, at some point, many missing men ended up in water. It’s crazy how often this happens. I wonder if these men get drunk and walk home and, due to impairment, end up in water. I’m sure waterways were thoroughly checked in this case so it makes one wonder. He seemed likeable with no enemies.
Pretty much! I used to be a party guy….. one night I was walking home tripped, fell and twisted both ankles…. Pretty sure if there was a River, canal, pond I would had fallen over.
When I was younger I walked away from a bonfire party drunk in the middle of nowhere and ended up getting lost in a corn field, I fell asleep because I couldn’t get out, waited for daybreak/sober up then I made my way. I can see how people just disappear 🫠
@@michaelpickering5465 Explanations like that are possible but only in case he was deliberately targeted by a professional hitman. Families always claim that their loved one never had an enemy but I do believe this guy didn't have any enemy of such a high profile ready to pay significant sum just to get rid of him.
I'm a local where this happened and sadly, a lot of us think it was a homicide. In many instances, his body would have been found if he committed suicide. Also, the bar was SUPER small and I doubt any workers would have hid his body, or the band. That's one theory people have online and it's one of the most outlandish things I've ever read. Keeping a secret between you and one friend is hard enough, imagine hiding a murder?? Also, the construction was heavily monitored and not as bad as people have made it out to be. Dogs traced Brian's scent leaving through a construction exit and into a Wendy's parking lot across the street. Yes dogs can get this wrong but more often they don't get it wrong, why would they get it wrong here? This indicates he got in a car with someone he knew and met foul play. This also supports why his phone left the building - because Brian did lol. Sadly, I think the person or persons who killed him had his phone for months following the murder. They had to have kept it on in order for pings to come through. I also don't believe the glitch thing with the ping, because as per a detective who worked on the case, multiple pings were detected for months following Brian's disappearance. It could have been Brian himself with his phone, but I highly doubt it. Locals knew his face at this time and Hilliard along with surrounding Columbus areas are really not that big. Also, the closest body of water when he went missing is the Olentangy River. The river was super low when he went missing and super out of the way to his apartment. If anything, he could have been killed and dumped in the Scioto river (similar to Joey Labute). I genuinely wonder if his case is connected to Joey's, another young man who went missing almost 10 years to the day Brian did, again from a campus bar (short north actually, so a little further up High St.). Either way, someone or someones know much more than they've shared, and Brian was killed. Either by accident or on purpose, he met foul play that night. Clint refusing a polygraph also makes total sense, and I don't think he's guilty of killing Brian. I think he knows more than we do for sure, and the police likely have that info. But I think he may have also lawyered up because him and Brian did drugs. Also, why wouldn't you lawyer up in any missing persons case? That's my two cents as a local, I really don't think it's as mysterious as it seems, but sadly it's unknown who could have taken Brian's life. I think the police know a lot more since hardly any camera footage has ever been released, but perhaps they're continuing to build a case. Afterall, his case is still open. Also, oddly enough the FBI has marked his case as a homicide I believe, because his case is now in the homicide related FBI database. I think there's a lot more than we know here sadly, but I pray to see it solved within the next 5 to 10 years. Brian's case along with Joey Labute's, Tyler Davis, and Stacey Colbert's have all baffled Columbus. We have a lot of missing people and unsolved homicides here and it's honestly terrifying. If you read this and feel inclined, I believe the family of Stacey Colbert are trying to raise money for a private detective. Her case was in 1998 and still unsolved, but her body was found in 2005. I'll link the Go Fund Me below if anyone is interested in helping support a local case! Thanks everyone, and stay safe!
Brian maybe met for a hookup or a drug buy in the Wendy’s parking lot and whoever picked him up there did something to him, or took him somewhere that he encountered someone that did.
This is interesting- because I thought the general consensus was that he was still alive and ran away. I remember some official person on the investigation team, possibly a PI, coming to that conclusion. I also see a lot of the pro-homicide theory people saying he was murdered because he was never seen leaving the bar. But clearly he did, judging by your info ??? The pings do throw me off, but i also think its eyebrow raising that he was having SUCH a hard time, telling his GF to move on, & that he was in a dark place- then he disappears. But i also think many people (including myself) are inclined to want to believe hes still out there. Regardless: due to the passage of time, police shouldnt be concealing anything. They clearly havent been able to solve this themselves, and theres a lot of misinformation on the case. 1)Do they believe he left the bar or not? 2)Who was he seen with if he left to go to another establishment, like Wendys? Is there not CCTV footage from there? 3)What led one of the investigators/PI's to conclude he ran off? 4)Did scent dogs track him or not? 5)Will any evidence wash up if he was dumped in a certain water source? Or is it just gone forever if he was disposed of in certain ones?-- this is one case that i dont think will ever be solved unless hes found alive.
I feel very badly for Derek. It’s seems that he’s the sole survivor of his family. I hope that one day, Brian is found and can be laid to rest with his parents.
Since the day that I first heard about this case, I've felt that the solution lies in the blueprints of the building that the bar was in at the time of the disappearance. He didn't leave that building as most people would have, and perhaps he never left at all. Could Brian's mummified body still be lodged somewhere in the walls of that building, either by accident or design ???
You never know....what about that kid that worked in a shop in 2009 and his remains were found wedged behind a fridge nearly 15 years later, I can't remember his name, but it does happen
@@garvindean6443No, not that he would be alive. But when the title says “What likely happened”, that usually means that there is a theory that explains why and how he just vanished. It’s obvious that he’s dead. That’s a given.
I think the CCTV cameras were probably just at the right angle where Brian's physique and clothing blended into the person behind him or in front of him, and through a one-in-a-billion occurrence, the image of him leaving the bar was obscured by another person and wasn't seen. He then left as normal, but either came to accidental physical harm, or was abducted. That's my theory on Brian's disappearance.
" ...the image of him leaving the bar was obscured by another person and wasn't seen. He then left as normal..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't think so. Police interviewed everyone in the bar; they counted the number of people who entered and the number of people who left. The result was that the number of people who left the bar was one less than the number who entered.
Something similar happened in my country. Young man after a night out, and en route to his fiancé's house, stops to relieve himself behind some bushes and never seen again. Family files a missing report next morning and they immediately contact a missing persons' TV programme. He was found dead at the bottom of an elevator shaft at a nearby construction site. He was probably drunk and did not see where he was stepping.
Was it a short cut to go through the construction site? You said he stop to relieve himself behind some bushes”, was there an elevator shaft behind those bushes too? Who said he step ped behind the “bushes” in the first place? They may be the reason he was fond at the bottom of a shaft!
@chrisemerson7743 they found him with his pants down and urine soaking them. No signs of assault. I don't remember If it was a short cut or he went in the construction site with the purpose to relieve himself. Street cameras were scarce back then. I think the contractor was hit with a huge fine but we never heard the details of the settlement with the family.
@chrisemerson7743 I am not sure of it was a short cut or if he went into the construction site just for the purpose of relieving himself. There was no sign of assault and the company had to pay a huge fine.
A man named Daniel O'Keeffe was missing in Australia for five years with his family desperately searching for him everywhere, including across social media. It was a mystery until they found his body wedged in a small space under their own house. So sad. Another man missing in Iowa was found after ten years - wedged in a tight space behind a refrigerator where he worked. (edit) And a new one in the news today 23/11/23 ruclips.net/video/_Pb6HG3CRg8/видео.html
I'm with you guys. I think the most likely answer is he left the building solo, was drunk and ran into someone who took advantage of his state- they may have robbed him and killed him, tossing him in the water or in a dumpster. It's sad, but it does happen, and nothing else makes sense here.
Agree. He simply wasn't seen on the footage. He doesn't strike me as a troublemaker, so I don't think anyone there would have done anything to him. The timing doesn't add up for Clint to have done it, and I can't imagine his body being in the building and undiscovered all this time.
No this guy doing this video missed the most impirtant fact. The bar had a exit with a unfinished construction adjacent to it. The cameras couldnt see in the construction project going on. It is now a parking garage, so either he wandered drunk into there fell in a hole or cement or accidentally was killed in the bar and they dumped him in the construction project and the people in charge of it didnt want to have a lawsuit so covered it up. He didnt leave the bar. Theres other true crime people thst do a more in depth look at this case.
My son passed at 36. I was right there with him. My grief was mountainous. I cannot imagine how much worse the NOT KNOWING would be. If he had just fallen off the face of the earth. Hauntingly sad. My intuition is screaming in my brain--he's still in the building. They need to stick a camera in a few void spaces in the building. Dogs or not (I know how incredibly accurate they are) I don't think he ever left the building. Was the roof accessible? Send cameras into the venting.
You have my deepest sympathy. The grief of losing someone you love is terrible, but I cannot even begin to imagine the depth of pain in losing a child. Sending you love and healing energy. In the case of Brian, my instincts are the same as yours, that he never left the building. Personally I cannot help feeling that his body in a crawlspace or similar, in a cellar or basement.
I’m sorry you had to outlive your son and I think your right having to always question if you’re child is alive or dead not knowing what happened would be torture.
I think Meredith tried to call him while they were still in the Ugly Tuna. His phone went to voicemail. Could have been because his phone died, or someone turned it off, either Brian or someone else.
I think that either he died inside the building in a bizarre, unexpected spot (it's happened before) or left and became a victim of a random street crime.
@@gyaniadmi2347 Building construction? If so, his body still might be in there somewhere. I do tend to believe the foul play scenario in this case tho.
I went to a Doctor 3 years ago here in an Atlanta suburb who looked like Brian’s twin. When he came into the room, I couldn’t stop looking at him and wondering if it was Brian. When I got home I looked at the Doctor’s credentials and he’d gone to medical school I think in Georgia, but each time I see another video on him, I wonder. He truly looked just like him.
Why didn''t you contact the police about it? I hate it when people have stories like this but never state that they contacted the police, it's always "oh I saw a person who looked like (missing person) and ever since that day, I've always wondered if that was them or not," there's nothing to say that you had to "keep wondering." 🤣
A high school kid disappeared into thin air in our town some time ago. He worked at a local supermarket, he worked his shift till closing one night then left and just vanished. Despite efforts by family, friends and law enforcement they didn't find him, he'd just vanished. A little over ten years later the supermarket had gone out of business and while the building was being torn down they found his body wedged between a wall and the side of a walk-in cooler in the back room. Turns out he'd built a little "nest" on the top of the walk-in and would sleep up there during his shift, they found this too. Apparently he lost his balance, fell into the narrow space between the cooler (it was about 10 feet high and the size of a bus) and the wall and became wedged in and died. Everyone had just assumed he'd left at the end of his shift...turns out he was there all along.
@@noobyxviii From what I read when they found him he was kind of mummified. Possibly from being pressed against the side of the metal walk-in cooler...don't know if that's why but for whatever reason no one did notice.
I still keep think about the door to the construction part of the building. Could he have gotten trapped, fallen asleep in a dumpster bin? It happened un UK a drunk young man drunk and cold crawled into a waste bin and was picked up and crushed and dumped in landfill. Even the most impossible is possible.
Absolutely no proof of the uk one, the rubbish tips were searched by hand for months and not one bit of evidence found. No one actually knows what happened to him, that’s just a theory, who tf goes to sleep in a wheelie bin? Have you smelt some of those industrial bins? Drunk or not
a homeless man in my hometown died this way, slept in a dumpster to try and stay warm and he was crushed to death the next morning. i can't imagine dying that way. my brother went to highschool with him.
He was most likely abducted by a predator, dragged into a vehicle and later murdered while drunkenly walking away from the venue after leaving through another exit. His disappearance is suspiciously clean.
I’m thinking he walked home and fell off that bridge they showed in the video. Cause they didn’t start looking for him for 3 days. You can travel a long ways by water in 3 days.
Being a medical student is quite stressful. Here in Australia, we have terrible statistics of young students/doctors not coping, long hours etc… committing suicide.
I’ve always thought he probably ended up in a dumpster and passed out, then died when the dumpster contents were picked up - it’s a sad case whether or not it was a tragic freak accident or foul play. Sadly, I don’t think we’ll ever know. RIP
My intuition on this stuff is usually scarily accurate. I have the same feeling. He never left the building. Even if the dogs say he isn't there. I really trust the dog's accuracy, too, but I think they missed something. He got lost in the building and fell or something.
@@wendybutler1681 it doesn't say this in the video but if you turn left of the escalators it's an extremely busy movie theater. There's no way no one would've found him or smelled something in 17 years.
I’ve been to that building several times, and to the Ugly Tuna Saloona a few times before they closed it down. It’s highly unlikely he could have went anywhere in that building and not eventually been discovered.
Did I miss something? Nothing in this video tells me "What most likely happened." Most of the other comments are highly complimentary, so I'll be kind, but, seriously, I didn't learn anything new, much less "what most likely happened."
I literally rewatched it over and over trying to see what I missed! I finally figured it out. He thinks he went out an entrance that coincidentally didn't pick anything up on camera for one reason or another. He believes foul play occurred after her left the bar, due to the area having a high crime rate. Occams Razor comment is just the definition of the term. The most likely answer is probably what happened basically.
@@fermentedpenny5264 "Occam’s Razor" just means the simplest solution is usually the correct one. In Brian's case, he probably left the bar via blind spot so the cameras didn't catch it and something tragic befell him on the 6 block walk home. Search parties do their best but they cannot look literally everywhere. Dogs are good, but it's probably beyond them to track a single scent a week after the fact with hundreds of people coming and going and cleaners using chemicals.
My theory: Irish exited his friends to pick up some party d*ugs, deal went bad, killed, body went with the m*rderer and dumped somewhere and hasn't been found.
He never left. The bar covered it up because bad publicity. I just wish his family could have his remians. Like, clearly he's not with us anymore, but his friends and family still don't have closure.
And the building workers coming in the next day would not have noticed a massive dent in the cement? I used to think something along those lines too but somehow that doesn't seem plausible either unless the construction workers were really ignorant unprofessional fools.
It has happened many many times before. If they were pouring cement early in the monitor they probably did not see him. And liquid cement would prevent decompositiin and obliterate any smell emanation. He is in that building in my opinion.
Having the pressure to marry, his mom gone, the stress of medical school...sometimes people have an excellent ability to mask their pain. It is clear he wanted to disappear and not be found.
It would take a pretty cold individual to leave his brother (who lost everything in short order) and girlfriend in the dark like that all these years. He seems thoughtful and doesn’t sound capable of that. And if they know where he is what is even the point of lying to authorities he’s not wanted for anything?
@@MrRyan-wu4jx thats why he didn’t want them to know. There is the stigma with depression. Not everyone will share their feelings and ultimately so feel imprisoned by the sickness.
@@MrRyan-wu4jxcold person? Depression can make people behave in ways they normally wouldn’t. To say it’s cold is pretending mental health issues play no part. If you are really low, the most warm hearted person can become despondent and not care about things anymore…
@@leannegarnett3777 you don’t need to tell me about depression. There’s no amount of depression that excuses or prevents you from being decent to others even if it gets harder. That would also imply this guy has been depressed every day since the mid 2000’s.
My grandfather went missing in 1960, when he was nearly 80 (im 50ish, he was 60 when my mom was born, his 2nd family), and the most logical explanation is that the river took him. he was walking out of town for a job, he really was too old to do, was following the river, and likely he fell, drowned, got caught in the brambles and branches, and was predated & dispersed before anyone noticed.
@@SpinningCracKFisT Hell, I’m high af tonight so let’s work thru this-Grandfather was 79 in 1960, and fathered OP’s mother 19 years prior in 1941. If OP is 50ish then he/she was born in the early 1970’s when their mother was in her early 30’s. I’d say that’s plausible and OP is not over a century old as you say 😂
@@MrC9Oh3, I try to give the benefit of the doubt. A lot of people who come to the comments speak English as their second or third language. Having had many students over the years who didn’t speak English as their primary language and parents who spoke little to none, I prefer to educate rather than call them stupid like some people do.
The area just south of this (at the time, not anymore) was pretty unsafe. I could easily see him getting a fight or something while hammered, getting killed on accident and then being disposed of in someway. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. Also this video says this area is quiet, NO this area is not quiet at all even at 2 AM, it's a college campus in a big city. There'd be lots of people even at 2 AM.
But the fact that it's so busy also discounts the possibility that he was just randomly killed by thugs in the street and they then proceeded to hide his body so well that he's never been found. I don't know what kind of world you live in but when someone kills someone in a robbery in the street they don't then spend hours moving the body to bury them somewhere, they leave them where they fell and run.
Very sad, heartbreaking for Brian's family, especially his brother, who had to lose his mom, brother and dad in such a short time. And the mystery surrounding his disappearance remains a loose end. I think Brian is likely deceased as well. I think there could've been a fight in the building, away from cameras, maybe he was beaten, killed, and his body hidden away or driven away somewhere, out of view of the cameras. Sad, he seemed like an intelligent guy with a bright future.
@@bulletsfordinner8307 that’s a good point. Perhaps some of the people in the footage are suspects or something and the police want to keep things close to the vest.
I hope your dreams came true Bryan. Living on an island, drinking Margaritas and listening to Buffett. Maybe he couldn’t cope losing his mom. Idk. So sad and senseless. Poor Derek. 😢
What are the odd though, never being captured on camera anywhere, whether he went to an island, committed suicide, disappeared, or was murdered, and not a trace of him was found? So bizarre.
i believe he planned his exit. i don't believe he was drunk either. why did he immediately go to talk to the band? He wanted to be a musician. i think he quizzed them to how to begin his dream.
I have seen a few vids and stories on this. My money is on that he went down elevator or stairway. Got out of building. Was walking on his way home. Was jumped and dragged into a vehicle or offered a ride and he took it, and was taken to an unknown location and his life was ended. He showed no signs of depression. No signs of wanting to disappear.
Did the band have cases for their equipment? He went to them for drugs, maybe he had done that before. He died of an overdose and band put body into a case and rolled him out of the bar. Police were only counting bodies. Just as good as any theory.
Out of all the cases I see, the missing persons ones really get me thinking the most… horrible that someone can just vanish and loved ones never truly know or find out the truth of what happened to them.
Question: Why did Brian slip his cell phone into a female's purse (that had been left open for the purpose ?) at around 1.58am outside the bar on the night he disappeared ? It's on cctv footage which can be slowed down. Brian deliberately returned to the Bar just before closing. I wonder why ? I suspect he knew arrangements had been made. Did he exit the bar with the band through the kitchen ? In disguise ? Hidden in an amplifier ? He wanted to pursue a career playing in a band (which he wrote in his journal) not in medicine that he was studying. Brian arranged his own disappearance. Probably in cahoots with his friend 'Clint'. Who is also know by a different name, paid a lawyer to state he knows nothing more than he has already said. It's rare for that to happen in a missing persons case IMO. Did Brian pay or bribe anyone to help him disappear ? Why is 'Clint' so loyal to Brian and what happened that night, even to this day ? Is Brian paying for 'Clint' to keep the secret ?
missing persons cases really get me too. they’re so so sad. if you listen to really detailed accounts of the stories, a lot of times you can pretty easily deduce what happened to the person. and so they just remain officially unsolved because of negligent/stupid/corrupt police departments, lack of concrete evidence(only having circumstantial evidence), or the body not being able to be found. sometimes it’s all of the above. i hate the cases where a someone’s been missing for like 10+ years, yet one day their body is discovered randomly by a civilian…..and the body ends up being less than like 5 miles away from where they were last seen. 😐 like come on! i swear to god most missing people are not even searched for at all.
@LocalFoe Do you know who Ron Pataky is? Throughout the 1970s and during the first half of 1980, he was an entertainment critic for the Columbus Citizen-Journal. In 1982 and 1983, Ron lived outside of Ohio, then he returned to Columbus and began telling people about his original photographic art that he was selling. Ron had launched his project while living outside Ohio. His huge photographic prints were artistic portrayals of various planets, satellites, constellations and other phenomena in outer space. Ron started creating and selling this stuff during the Reagan years, and he told Columbus residents that the president and First Lady had bought some of his (Ron’s) outer space artwork. He said they had written him personal letters on White House stationery to compliment him on the beauty of his work. If someone replied to Ron Pataky by suggesting that a member of the White House staff had sent him the letters of praise, and that the White House offices had a machine for signing President Reagan’s name on a short letter, that idea made Ron Pataky start yelling, and he insisted that both Ronald and Nancy Reagan genuinely enjoyed contemplating the photographic art. As you can tell, Ron Pataky was a creepy, egotistical resident of Columbus for many years. Is this your first time learning about him, LocalFoe? Or does another commentator here recognize Ron Pataky’s name?
The thing that I find really interesting yet baffling, is that he clearly did decide to exit the building via an alternative way, which means that he was avoiding someone or something, otherwise why didn't he just leave via the escalators?... There's something really off about the fact that he went a different way, then he just disappears... it's as if he KNEW something was about to happen (whether it was him making the decision to run away and be gone forever, or someone was after him?)
Or, he helped the band pack up their gear and left with them via the elevator, He told his friends he was going to speak to the band. He was a massive music nerd. No one seems to have any information about this band, how many people were in it, whether they were ever interviewed, whether they were seen on any CCTV. They were presumably the last people to speak to Brian, yet they're a complete mystery to everyone and the cops have absolutely no information about the band. It looks like the cops never even investigated the last people to possibly see him and speak to him. That displays a massive level of incompetence and it's probably why he's still missing to this day.
I agree, the girls pointed at something and Brian looked worried glancing at the cops contemplating whether he should say something then walked towards the back exits. He was trying to avoid leaving the conventional route, which is why he went to talk to the band or said he was going to at the very least to stall. He tried sneaking out a back way, was met with foul play by someone or some group waiting for him who got into it with him at the bar that night, and abducted via car which is why his body was never found.
other possibilities: he slipped thru the Matrix to another dimension/realm. Also never count Alien abduction out. in the end it doesn't really matter it's still sad that someone like him would just disappear.
How much alcohol did he consume? Was he intoxicated? Did he drink at all? Alcohol consumption is important to know……it plays a role in so many tragedies it’s hard to ignore.
He obviously had to have left the venue. No other CCTV was released to the public. There was a band playing that night and they would have left via the elevator. Brian allegedly told his friends he was going to speak to the band (he was a music nerd). I think the cops just missed a vital lead and didn't consider that Brian helped the band leave with their gear.
@user-wf2kd6nm1n I couldn’t agree with you more. We can rule out Brian planning the whole thing in advance. We can rule out suicide and witness protection. In another thread here, someone (not me) concluded that witness protection explains everything. Wrong. If the FBI needs to put a second-year medical student in witness protection, the FBI agents don’t let the med student party or hit on a woman he doesn’t know immediately before they tell him to get in the car.
Somehow he went into a dumpster or was placed there but the dumpster is the only place he could have gone without a trace where they wouldn’t be able to find his body since it was 2 days after the fact that police were notified and then searched
They picked up Clint’s car in Brian’s apartment parking lot, but didn’t check in on him. WTF. I hear this all the time when people go missing after leaving bars. Why don’t friends check on each other? I’ll never understand that.
Yeah, I thought the same thing about poor Natalie Holloway. Her mother was at the airport to pick her up. She saw Natalie’s friends getting off the plain, but not her daughter. She asked them where Natalie was and I don’t know what they told her. Probably nothing helpful. I was disgusted with her “friends”. Her poor mother. 😢
Of all the hundreds (maybe thousands?) of missing persons' cases I have heard this one haunts me the most! Brian was big and strong! He was going on an exciting trip with a girl friend ( soon to be a fiance?) What happened????
I promise that Brian did NOT off himself after a night of fun partying and flirty fun with hot babes. He met with foul play, or suffered an accident where someone covered it up.
I live in Tecate, Mexico...it's 40 miles east of Tijuana and 30 miles south of San Diego. There's an American homeless man that I've talked, helped, given money to etc. for years and his name is Brian. I'm not sure what mental issues he has but when we talk, he goes in and out of reality and can become agitated very suddenly. I don't know if it's a good thing, but I must remind him of someone because he always says I'm his psychologist and he responds well to me. Anyway, I'm sure it's not him but this Brian looks very similar to the homeless Brian that is currently living in Tecate, Mexico.
He either died in the building and somehow still hasn't been found or the friends have something do to with it. Isn't it a little odd that the friend didn't bother to check on him when he returned to get the car? Surely it might mean nothing, but if my friend 'disappeared on me' the night before, I would check on him to see if he was okay or just say hi if I was in front of his house / apartment. I do understand the need to lawyer up, but now too much has passed and the friend is still very quiet. He might have helped him disappear or something, but still...
Unfortunately his father who was the one out there looking for him the most was killed when a tree fell on him because of the high winds produced by the remnants of Hurricane Ike.
He probably left thru the secondary exit to try and take a wiz, then decided meh I’ll just go home now. Stumbling home he probably ran into a Gacy style serial killer who abducted him by gun point, killed him snd buried his body later on. Very sad case, he looked like a really good dude
I agree-Irish goodbye, walked home without saying anything to anybody, on way home he was abducted and taken somewhere else far out in woods etc and disposed of. He was very handsome a a Gacy type man would have been like “Jackpot” it was a college town and those serial killers know those are good hunting grounds for inebriated targets.
There was no secondary exit just another door that led to construction area which he was on 2nd floor and would have to jump 30 feet to get down so maybe he did that but you figured the jump would injure or kill him
My theory is that in his inebriated state, looking for something to take the edge off he tried a substance that he had never taken before. This may have caused him to OD in the bar. Potentially got it from someone at the har or somone who works there and died in the bathroom. The owners of the bar removed his body and disposed of it not wanting to face legal troubles for the situation.
The more you listen to the trail of breadcrumbs he was hinting at, the easier to understand it is. My theory is that in an inebriated, distressed state after the loss of his mum, the seriousness of his relationship, and his expressions of “run away with me” became “find someone else” “I’m in a dark place”: guys don’t just say that, especially successful ones. The drunken night accelerated a decision to do something irreparable in his mind, he was on his own outside the bar, snuck out one way or other, and disappeared of his own volition either to escape or reunite with his mum.
Clint ‘the friend’ knows more than he is letting on. Maybe he didn’t commit a crime but he seems freaked out that he will be in trouble if he reveals everything he knows. It’s really not normal for a 20-something year old to start spending thousands of dollars on a lawyer when they have nothing to hide.
Detectives can see right through that, if the dude was guilty they’d know it. Some people get nervous and lawyer up because they don’t want a murder being pinned on them.
@@larrydanadavid2435 so u are saying the same perceptive detectives would pin a murder case on him without solid evidence? I think he helped Brian escape or hide or something but then when Brian doesn’t turn up he gets nervous thinking the public will think he did it so best to avoid it. Something is fishy because his parents wouldn’t help him lawyer up financially if they didn’t fear something. Like I said he didn’t kill Brian but he knows something and is too afraid to reveal it. My gut feel. Usually people cooperate immediately if their friends meet a terrible fate - this guy just disappears and lawyers up.
I’ve watched enough true crime to know lots of innocent people get locked up for talking to the cops without a lawyer present. Sure it looks suspicious to lawyer up when you didn’t do anything, but it is the smart thing to do.
Other videos about this case make it seem like there was no other exit than the escalator. You have cleared up that there were other ways out of the building. I think he was lured outside somehow or was walking home and someone in a vehicle grabbed him off the street, abducted and murdered him. Maybe he had a squabble with the wrong people that night, or it was just a psycho.
I love this channel because you all give plausible answers and info to cases that I’ve heard a bunch of times but didn’t hear certain very important info until you guys!! Top notch, can’t believe you all don’t have more views!
So did this video provide a ‘what likely happened’ scenario? No, it did not. Clearly he did not commit suicide. His body would have been found. I don’t think he ran away. He had too much to stay for and I don’t think he’d do that to his dad, his brother or his fiancée. My guess is he went out the construction exit not covered by cameras, was murdered, and whoever did it put him in a car and made him disappear. The two friends he was with - the female (Meredith) agreed to take a lie detector but the guy, Clint, refused. That is troublesome. Why would he refuse? And why did he cut off all contact and communication with the police?
That’s a good point. Or his friend could be covering for him for some reason….such as Brian wanted to disappear and go join a band. I know that seems childish but what was it that Brian wanted to do…..hang out in the Virgin Islands and sip margaritas on the beach….something like that. That doesn’t sound like a future doctor. It sounds like a person who wants to do just that. Foul play….it depends on how intoxicated he was.
Eh because that’s a stupid thing to do as an innocent person, lie detectors aren’t admissible nor 100%, why would anyone want to do that then have the police try to pin it on him?
Because he was being publicly accused of something he couldn't have possibly done and the cops had already obviously screwed up this investigation from the very first hours. Brian went to speak to the band who were playing that night. Therefore, the band are presumed to be the last people who saw Brian alive but the cops have said absolutely nothing about this band, who they were, where they were from, how many of them were playing there, or if they were even interviewed. Clint was absolutely right to lawyer up and refuse a lie-detector test (they are 100% clownish and are used as a prop to scare idiot suspects into confessing, that's all).
He would fit right in, in Hawaii. His world crumbled ,he either deleted himself or chose another destination in an effort to see if he could even live with himself and his losses 😢❤
I think the decay stench would have given the body away. He’d have been found. I do agree there was a lot of construction going on in that area. He could be in cement n
Fwiw, I've had two NDEs. In the second one, I was greeted by my great-grandfather and an old family dog. It was the most beautiful and surprising aspect of an amazing experience. I'm only writing it here in hopes folks know we're more than our physical bodies. Take care, dear ones. We're in this together. ❤
Rubbish. NDE is just the brain releasing chemicals that cause vivid hallucinations. Same experience can be obtained by taking certain drugs like DMT. Doesn't prove there is an afterlife. When you actually die, there will most likely be nothingness, same as before you were conceived.
I remember when this happened. I lived in Columbus. I was so sure that they were going to find his remains behind something in the bar when it was shut down. Another thing that seems plausible is that he left by the stairwell, took a walk, and ended up in the river (a fall?) and washed away. :(
The theater that was part of the mall that UTS was in, was said to have a strong odor of something decaying after Brian's disappearance, which lasted for awhile. I believe cadaver dogs followed a scent outside of the establishment and ended at the Wendy's close by.
they said scent dogs found the trail to wendys not cadaver dogs but maybe the dogs found the scent going in not going out and like you said he died on property
12:52 I 100% disagree with that 🤷🏻♀️ Just because someone is outwardly doing well in life, outwardly seems happy, and isn't telling anyone doesn't mean they're not suicidal and depressed. I'm 32 and have suffered from depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, and suicidal actions since I was 11, and I abused drugs from the time I was 14/15 up until I was 25 to cope. And the ONLY time anyone had any idea what I was going through or what I went through was either when I straight up told them, they found me during one of my attempts, they saw my self harm marks, they found out I was in the psyche ward, or they were taking me to my therapy appointments. I stopped going to therapy when I was 15 (my "lovely" mom kept bitching about having to take me on top of me feeling like the therapist wasn't helping so I just stopped going) and after that up until I was in my early 20's everyone thought I was all good until my drug problems reared their ugly head then once I got sober at 25 until now once again everyone thinks i'm all good despite still suffering. Outwardly i'm happy and normal but inside i'm still a mess. Heartbreakingly that's a big problem with depression and suicide (and mental health issues in general) most people are REALLY good at hiding it for multiple reasons and sometimes when their loved ones finally figure out what someone has been going through it's too late and they beat themselves up for not knowing. I'm not saying that I think he did or didn't commit suicide but saying that just because he outwardly was fine and didn't tell anyone that he's automatically not depressed, wasn't suicidal, and didn't commit suicide is bad, enforces outdated beliefs about mental health issues, and causes more harm. To repeat i've suffered from this for over half of my life and know/have known other people who have too so trust me I know what i'm talking about.
I agree with you, especially considering the huge pressure he was under to perform well in uni and to get married. The death of his mother, too. Anyone would be struggling with all that, then add alcohol to the mix, and some people become very maudlin and fixated on suicide.
I can see why you would come to the conclusion that he may have had suicidal thoughts, but in the case of his disappearance, suicide wasn’t what happened. Where would he have gone in the university district of Ohio State to kill himself that his body would have never been found?
There is no evidence that he would take his own life, that's the point. Sure, people can hide stuff really well, but if people are going to assume that he did intend to end his life they are failing in basic investigatory procedure. It is to be assumed that he didn't plan to end himself, until evidence arrives that he did.
Considering even the craziest of possibilities, he may have wandered into a time warp or a portal or something like that. I do believe Brian is no longer of this world. This is so sad. Poor guy had everything to look forward to.
2:50I hope the narrator/writer of this video knows that people who are happily married never thought their end of bachelorhood made a proposal "bitter, sweet.
I have seen Brian before when I lived by OSU. He used to go to the Health Science library before his disappearance. I didnt know he disappeared until the missing posters were placed up.
I think Brian made it out of the building through the construction site. His scent was tracked to that Wendys parking lot. From there he may have met foul play. The only reason he was never found is his body was put in the garbage and they didnt search the landfill until it was too late. By then it was transferred to Tennessee that Monday.
Alcohol can do crazy things to a person's mind-all it takes is a song, a conversation, seeing someone, or even seeing a stranger that reminds you of someone or something else. I believe he may have committed sepaku in some way, like a body of water, or, as this video states, he was a victim of foul play, and his body has been disposed of in the city or county dump, some random wooded area, a field, or an abandoned property somewhere. Either way, it's completely heartbreaking, especially for the brother who's now lost his whole family. My heart bleeds for that poor man! RIP Brian Schaffer and (Mom & Dad) Family 💔😭❤️♾️
The friend made a wise decision not taking the test. If he feels the slightest bit of guilt for not getting his friend home safe he’ll more than likely fail.
1. abduction/murders are almost never random. Of the random abduction/murders that do happen, almost none of them are of fit, strong young men. The idea that he was a victim of some random foul play is not likely. The theory of foul play would have more credibility if he was in some kind of trouble with someone, i.e. drugs or debt etc. There is no evidence to suggest that this is the case. 2. Despite what most RUclips videos suggest, It is not an absolute certainty that he didn't leave the bar via one of the exits. It is possible to have left without being picked up by CCTV. 3. Suicide is very often a spur of the moment act. Somebody can ideate it for a long time but never actually act on it...and then in a split second decide to just do it. Its very common. Especially when alcohol is involved. So when people say stuff like "oh they made plans" or "they registered for a library card" or "She said she'd see me tomorrow" etc etc as evidence that a person didnt intend to kill themselves, it's not true. 4. Clint lawyered up because Brian's dad was throwing around accusations. Up to that point he was cooperating fully. He has been investigated rigorously and is not hiding anything. 5. The facts that are in the public domain are just the tip of the iceberg. Likely less than 5% of what the entire investigation covers. Law enforcement will be privy to information that can all but confirm a hypothesis but cannot close the case because the evidence doesnt reach a certain threshold. The police in this case will have a pretty good idea of what happened here, but cant prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
drugs or a drug deal gone bad or OD ing are a possibility...his BF was Clint who was into heavy drugs according to many people commenting on this case ..so that points to B being someone who uses....
I think he had a heated argument with one of his friends, one of the bar workers or a customer and hid his body by the near by construction site. He did not commit suicide.
So the word “suicide” is bleeped out but the words “kill himself” are ok? Censorship is so stupid.
That's what I was thinking, youtube is starting to suck.
Its assinine that True Crime vids cant properly name crimes.
Smh
@@ssQ2Uis it necessary to use such language?
Yes it is necessary to use such language if you're trying to make an informational video. And RUclips has sucked for a while now. They pick and choose who can use their 1st amendment right
His poor brother
Lost his whole family in 2 years
And lost his brother and father both so unexpectedly. That must be so hard.
that's some creepy final destination situation.
That’s awful. I hope he has some loving friends. Poor guy.
Yeah, and how his father died from that freak accident is really bizarre. I mean, the odds of the way that he died must've been like 1 in 50 million.
@@laurenurban3942it can happen to any of us, having a full family you love, and in an accident or a series of accidents you lose them all. Really sad.
The fact that Brian invited his brother to go with him that evening even makes this disappearance more mysterious he clearly had no intentions of disappearing
Not necessarily. He might have gone into witness protection and was treating the evening as "just another" party night.
@@maxalberts2003 why?
I see this outing as a last goodbye. I believe he walked away from everything. He wasn’t that intoxicated to have wandered off into oblivion. I do not believe he was happy, and don’t believe his intentions were to marry that woman. Since he already said to her find someone else. Could have felt bad so he stuck with her, but it was fake. To me, disappearing is not as hard as everyone thinks. I have done it, but reappeared.. meaning I ran away and came back some years later.. he didn’t take anything because he didn’t want any of it, didn’t want to be found. Where did he go is the question.. my guess is he had money set aside.. cash. And took off to different parts of the country then eventually overseas under an assumed name. Crazier shit has happened.. whitey bulger for instance
Witness protection? 😳😆
@@LS-ny8mrexactly my thoughts!
Clint is such a scapegoat in this story. If you dig further his actions make sense. He was helping, until Brian’s dad very publicly started accusing him of knowing more than he did. After this point he lawyered up, and the lawyer (as lawyers do) advised him to stop talking. It’s very reasonable of him to have stayed away from the case if you know the whole story. It’s also never a good idea to take a polygraph, guilty or innocent.
Always lawyer up, even when innocent. I would have done the same thing. Lots of innocent people have their lives ruined for being suspected and convicted of murders they have not committed by talking to the police without legal counsel.
Lie detector tests are not admissible in court, so it wouldn't have hurt him to take it. Why did Brian's dad suddenly accuse him? Was something he said/did or was acting suspicious for Brian's father to suddenly make this accusation.
Statistics say people usually get killed by ppl they know. Maybe Clint was jealous of him.
Thank you for that information. That is too bad..☹️
@@benjalucian1515"wouldn't have hurt him to take it" Ahh, yes, I'm sure failing a polygraph whilst the missing's father already accusing you publicly wouldn't been no sweat whatsoever.
I’ve followed true crime all my life. This is one of the cases that still utterly baffles me. It seems like, at some point, many missing men ended up in water. It’s crazy how often this happens. I wonder if these men get drunk and walk home and, due to impairment, end up in water. I’m sure waterways were thoroughly checked in this case so it makes one wonder. He seemed likeable with no enemies.
Pretty much!
I used to be a party guy….. one night I was walking home tripped, fell and twisted both ankles…. Pretty sure if there was a River, canal, pond I would had fallen over.
Yes it does. I can think of a drunken, leaving the bar drowning and a psychotic break down accidental or suicide drowning near me.
@@alejandromolinac ok, wow, thank you for sharing! You articulated how easy this could happen. Damn. 😞
@@EclecticDD awful. 😪
When I was younger I walked away from a bonfire party drunk in the middle of nowhere and ended up getting lost in a corn field, I fell asleep because I couldn’t get out, waited for daybreak/sober up then I made my way. I can see how people just disappear 🫠
Poor Derek 😢. Regardless of what happened, he lost his Mom, Dad, and brother in 2 years. I hope he has found peace. RIP to his family.
I agree.
I’ve heard a theory of Derek unalive both brother & father for the inheritance.
Who thinks like that!! Such a low blow!!!!
He never went back in , he was drunk and wandered away and met with a bad fate. Being drunk and alone is a bad idea.
I think he drink was speight or drugged then got murdered
@@michaelpickering5465
Explanations like that are possible but only in case he was deliberately targeted by a professional hitman. Families always claim that their loved one never had an enemy but I do believe this guy didn't have any enemy of such a high profile ready to pay significant sum just to get rid of him.
I'm a local where this happened and sadly, a lot of us think it was a homicide. In many instances, his body would have been found if he committed suicide. Also, the bar was SUPER small and I doubt any workers would have hid his body, or the band. That's one theory people have online and it's one of the most outlandish things I've ever read. Keeping a secret between you and one friend is hard enough, imagine hiding a murder?? Also, the construction was heavily monitored and not as bad as people have made it out to be. Dogs traced Brian's scent leaving through a construction exit and into a Wendy's parking lot across the street. Yes dogs can get this wrong but more often they don't get it wrong, why would they get it wrong here? This indicates he got in a car with someone he knew and met foul play. This also supports why his phone left the building - because Brian did lol. Sadly, I think the person or persons who killed him had his phone for months following the murder. They had to have kept it on in order for pings to come through. I also don't believe the glitch thing with the ping, because as per a detective who worked on the case, multiple pings were detected for months following Brian's disappearance. It could have been Brian himself with his phone, but I highly doubt it. Locals knew his face at this time and Hilliard along with surrounding Columbus areas are really not that big. Also, the closest body of water when he went missing is the Olentangy River. The river was super low when he went missing and super out of the way to his apartment. If anything, he could have been killed and dumped in the Scioto river (similar to Joey Labute). I genuinely wonder if his case is connected to Joey's, another young man who went missing almost 10 years to the day Brian did, again from a campus bar (short north actually, so a little further up High St.). Either way, someone or someones know much more than they've shared, and Brian was killed. Either by accident or on purpose, he met foul play that night. Clint refusing a polygraph also makes total sense, and I don't think he's guilty of killing Brian. I think he knows more than we do for sure, and the police likely have that info. But I think he may have also lawyered up because him and Brian did drugs. Also, why wouldn't you lawyer up in any missing persons case? That's my two cents as a local, I really don't think it's as mysterious as it seems, but sadly it's unknown who could have taken Brian's life. I think the police know a lot more since hardly any camera footage has ever been released, but perhaps they're continuing to build a case. Afterall, his case is still open. Also, oddly enough the FBI has marked his case as a homicide I believe, because his case is now in the homicide related FBI database. I think there's a lot more than we know here sadly, but I pray to see it solved within the next 5 to 10 years. Brian's case along with Joey Labute's, Tyler Davis, and Stacey Colbert's have all baffled Columbus. We have a lot of missing people and unsolved homicides here and it's honestly terrifying. If you read this and feel inclined, I believe the family of Stacey Colbert are trying to raise money for a private detective. Her case was in 1998 and still unsolved, but her body was found in 2005. I'll link the Go Fund Me below if anyone is interested in helping support a local case! Thanks everyone, and stay safe!
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@@86BarbOmega
Brian maybe met for a hookup or a drug buy in the Wendy’s parking lot and whoever picked him up there did something to him, or took him somewhere that he encountered someone that did.
This is interesting- because I thought the general consensus was that he was still alive and ran away. I remember some official person on the investigation team, possibly a PI, coming to that conclusion. I also see a lot of the pro-homicide theory people saying he was murdered because he was never seen leaving the bar. But clearly he did, judging by your info ??? The pings do throw me off, but i also think its eyebrow raising that he was having SUCH a hard time, telling his GF to move on, & that he was in a dark place- then he disappears. But i also think many people (including myself) are inclined to want to believe hes still out there. Regardless: due to the passage of time, police shouldnt be concealing anything. They clearly havent been able to solve this themselves, and theres a lot of misinformation on the case. 1)Do they believe he left the bar or not? 2)Who was he seen with if he left to go to another establishment, like Wendys? Is there not CCTV footage from there? 3)What led one of the investigators/PI's to conclude he ran off? 4)Did scent dogs track him or not? 5)Will any evidence wash up if he was dumped in a certain water source? Or is it just gone forever if he was disposed of in certain ones?-- this is one case that i dont think will ever be solved unless hes found alive.
I thought I read where his phone had pinged in Hilliard and that he knew people from there. Perhaps a woman?
The whole thing is really sketchy.
I feel very badly for Derek. It’s seems that he’s the sole survivor of his family. I hope that one day, Brian is found and can be laid to rest with his parents.
Since the day that I first heard about this case, I've felt that the solution lies in the blueprints of the building that the bar was in at the time of the disappearance. He didn't leave that building as most people would have, and perhaps he never left at all. Could Brian's mummified body still be lodged somewhere in the walls of that building, either by accident or design ???
If you have ever smelled a dead body you would know the answer to that.
They've checked the bar top to bottom and with cadaver dogs, he's not there.
I agree
Hotdog
You never know....what about that kid that worked in a shop in 2009 and his remains were found wedged behind a fridge nearly 15 years later, I can't remember his name, but it does happen
"Heres what most likely happened: He's dead."
Wow, thats just genius. How in the world did you guys come up with that??
Did you expect him to say that he's alive😅
This was going to be my exact response as well.
@@garvindean6443No, not that he would be alive. But when the title says “What likely happened”, that usually means that there is a theory that explains why and how he just vanished. It’s obvious that he’s dead. That’s a given.
@@TheJD616it is shocking and disturbing how callous and disgustingly ignorant some people can be, especially in light of such loss.
There is plenty of speculation that he is still alive, wondering the streets somewhere. They simply poured a bucket of ice onto that.
I think the CCTV cameras were probably just at the right angle where Brian's physique and clothing blended into the person behind him or in front of him, and through a one-in-a-billion occurrence, the image of him leaving the bar was obscured by another person and wasn't seen. He then left as normal, but either came to accidental physical harm, or was abducted. That's my theory on Brian's disappearance.
I think he was abducted that theory makes sense as the dogs couldn’t pick up a scent
Yeah I hate to say it but he had to have been abducted and disposed of !! He was tired @ drunk and was a good candidate for a victim of violence.
I think leaving through the other exit is more plausible/believable to me
" ...the image of him leaving the bar was obscured by another person and wasn't seen. He then left as normal..."
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I don't think so. Police interviewed everyone in the bar; they counted the number of people who entered and the number of people who left. The result was that the number of people who left the bar was one less than the number who entered.
Most likely. And it's probably more like a one in a hundred chance.
Something similar happened in my country. Young man after a night out, and en route to his fiancé's house, stops to relieve himself behind some bushes and never seen again. Family files a missing report next morning and they immediately contact a missing persons' TV programme. He was found dead at the bottom of an elevator shaft at a nearby construction site. He was probably drunk and did not see where he was stepping.
Was it a short cut to go through the construction site? You said he stop to relieve himself behind some bushes”, was there an elevator shaft behind those bushes too? Who said he step ped behind the “bushes” in the first place? They may be the reason he was fond at the bottom of a shaft!
@chrisemerson7743 they found him with his pants down and urine soaking them. No signs of assault. I don't remember If it was a short cut or he went in the construction site with the purpose to relieve himself. Street cameras were scarce back then. I think the contractor was hit with a huge fine but we never heard the details of the settlement with the family.
@chrisemerson7743 I am not sure of it was a short cut or if he went into the construction site just for the purpose of relieving himself. There was no sign of assault and the company had to pay a huge fine.
How does anyone know he stopped to take a piss??? When this kind of personal matters are shown, it makes me wonder how the information came about.
@tigergreg8 It was rumoured he was found with his pants lowered and soaked.
A man named Daniel O'Keeffe was missing in Australia for five years with his family desperately searching for him everywhere, including across social media. It was a mystery until they found his body wedged in a small space under their own house. So sad. Another man missing in Iowa was found after ten years - wedged in a tight space behind a refrigerator where he worked. (edit) And a new one in the news today 23/11/23 ruclips.net/video/_Pb6HG3CRg8/видео.html
What I was thinking. Maybe he exited across the construction site and he fell in between two walls or floors.
I thought that he was found wedged in the construction area of the bar.. I must be mis- remembering..
That's insane! Can you imagine looking for your loved one only for them to be under your house!!! I can't!
"he worked behind the refrigerator"
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@@MyLolle he worked in a supermarket. The refrigerator was in the supermarket.
I'm with you guys. I think the most likely answer is he left the building solo, was drunk and ran into someone who took advantage of his state- they may have robbed him and killed him, tossing him in the water or in a dumpster. It's sad, but it does happen, and nothing else makes sense here.
That sounds plausible. A body in a dumpster goes to an incinerator to burn.
Agree
Agree. He simply wasn't seen on the footage. He doesn't strike me as a troublemaker, so I don't think anyone there would have done anything to him. The timing doesn't add up for Clint to have done it, and I can't imagine his body being in the building and undiscovered all this time.
No this guy doing this video missed the most impirtant fact. The bar had a exit with a unfinished construction adjacent to it. The cameras couldnt see in the construction project going on. It is now a parking garage, so either he wandered drunk into there fell in a hole or cement or accidentally was killed in the bar and they dumped him in the construction project and the people in charge of it didnt want to have a lawsuit so covered it up. He didnt leave the bar. Theres other true crime people thst do a more in depth look at this case.
@@chrislong8559this is what happened plausibily to him
I know the video is about Brian, but I feel so bad for Derek.
I don’t get it… can someone help lol
His brother.
That poor guy!! I can't imagine losing your entire family, in such a short amt of time!
@prsee5969 Please, pay attention.
Poor Derrick
My son passed at 36. I was right there with him. My grief was mountainous. I cannot imagine how much worse the NOT KNOWING would be. If he had just fallen off the face of the earth. Hauntingly sad. My intuition is screaming in my brain--he's still in the building. They need to stick a camera in a few void spaces in the building. Dogs or not (I know how incredibly accurate they are) I don't think he ever left the building. Was the roof accessible? Send cameras into the venting.
I’m so sorry for your loss
How very sad to lose your son. My heart goes out to you. I hope time gifts you some peace.
You have my deepest sympathy. The grief of losing someone you love is terrible, but I cannot even begin to imagine the depth of pain in losing a child. Sending you love and healing energy. In the case of Brian, my instincts are the same as yours, that he never left the building. Personally I cannot help feeling that his body in a crawlspace or similar, in a cellar or basement.
I’m sorry you had to outlive your son and I think your right having to always question if you’re child is alive or dead not knowing what happened would be torture.
😢
If his phone was dead right after he disappeared means he or someone turned it off... that suggests foul play imo
I think Meredith tried to call him while they were still in the Ugly Tuna. His phone went to voicemail. Could have been because his phone died, or someone turned it off, either Brian or someone else.
2am, could easily have died from no battery
I think that either he died inside the building in a bizarre, unexpected spot (it's happened before) or left and became a victim of a random street crime.
One thing this video.missed is that , there.was construction work going on right side of the Bar where Brian was standing .
@@gyaniadmi2347 Building construction? If so, his body still might be in there somewhere.
I do tend to believe the foul play scenario in this case tho.
I went to a Doctor 3 years ago here in an Atlanta suburb who looked like Brian’s twin. When he came into the room, I couldn’t stop looking at him and wondering if it was Brian. When I got home I looked at the Doctor’s credentials and he’d gone to medical school I think in Georgia, but each time I see another video on him, I wonder. He truly looked just like him.
Did You contact the Police?
Maybe he faked his disappearance and started over?!🤔
@@samanthalake5011if the guy was out there publicly practicing medicine he would’ve absolutely been figured out by now.
Why didn''t you contact the police about it? I hate it when people have stories like this but never state that they contacted the police, it's always "oh I saw a person who looked like (missing person) and ever since that day, I've always wondered if that was them or not," there's nothing to say that you had to "keep wondering." 🤣
Bingo, that is what I believe @@samanthalake5011
I know it's a RUclips thing, but beeping the word suicide is ridiculous. We know what is being implied, hiding the word doesn't do anything.
May he rest in Margaritaville for all eternity
I sure hope so. May he have his toes in the sand, his guitar in his hand, and a drink in his hand!
@@scoobstopbHow can he hold a guitar and a drink?
Some ppl claim that there’s a woman to blame…
im dead 😂
@pringlescan81 but he knows it's his own damn fault.
A high school kid disappeared into thin air in our town some time ago. He worked at a local supermarket, he worked his shift till closing one night then left and just vanished. Despite efforts by family, friends and law enforcement they didn't find him, he'd just vanished. A little over ten years later the supermarket had gone out of business and while the building was being torn down they found his body wedged between a wall and the side of a walk-in cooler in the back room. Turns out he'd built a little "nest" on the top of the walk-in and would sleep up there during his shift, they found this too. Apparently he lost his balance, fell into the narrow space between the cooler (it was about 10 feet high and the size of a bus) and the wall and became wedged in and died. Everyone had just assumed he'd left at the end of his shift...turns out he was there all along.
What about the smell of a decaying body? No one noticed?
@@noobyxviii From what I read when they found him he was kind of mummified. Possibly from being pressed against the side of the metal walk-in cooler...don't know if that's why but for whatever reason no one did notice.
@@noobyxviiiyeah the smell and flies should have been a give away. Not sure why that was not noticed.
I still keep think about the door to the construction part of the building. Could he have gotten trapped, fallen asleep in a dumpster bin? It happened un UK a drunk young man drunk and cold crawled into a waste bin and was picked up and crushed and dumped in landfill. Even the most impossible is possible.
Absolutely no proof of the uk one, the rubbish tips were searched by hand for months and not one bit of evidence found. No one actually knows what happened to him, that’s just a theory, who tf goes to sleep in a wheelie bin? Have you smelt some of those industrial bins? Drunk or not
I always felt was related to the construction some how
a homeless man in my hometown died this way, slept in a dumpster to try and stay warm and he was crushed to death the next morning. i can't imagine dying that way. my brother went to highschool with him.
He was most likely abducted by a predator, dragged into a vehicle and later murdered while drunkenly walking away from the venue after leaving through another exit. His disappearance is suspiciously clean.
I’m thinking he walked home and fell off that bridge they showed in the video. Cause they didn’t start looking for him for 3 days. You can travel a long ways by water in 3 days.
Same as that German fella who disappeared whilst on holiday in Bulgaria with his friends last you see if him is running away out of the airport 😮
What goes on?
That guy was killed by a mafia .. all the area is stand still overpowered by a mob
Lars Mittank. Very odd case
@Hannahleigh_ I just watched another RUclips video about him a few days ago. Very bizarre indeed.
Being a medical student is quite stressful. Here in Australia, we have terrible statistics of young students/doctors not coping, long hours etc… committing suicide.
I’ve always thought he probably ended up in a dumpster and passed out, then died when the dumpster contents were picked up - it’s a sad case whether or not it was a tragic freak accident or foul play. Sadly, I don’t think we’ll ever know. RIP
That was my thought as well
Brian went out on a Friday night if I remember@@jerrymoore838 . Do they pick up trash early Saturday morning or Friday during the night?
Somehow, i have a hard time to believe that he (his body) ever left the building.
My intuition on this stuff is usually scarily accurate. I have the same feeling. He never left the building. Even if the dogs say he isn't there. I really trust the dog's accuracy, too, but I think they missed something. He got lost in the building and fell or something.
@@wendybutler1681 it doesn't say this in the video but if you turn left of the escalators it's an extremely busy movie theater. There's no way no one would've found him or smelled something in 17 years.
I feel the same. I think he's still in that building.
There was construction going on in the building at the time too, if I recall correctly.
I’ve been to that building several times, and to the Ugly Tuna Saloona a few times before they closed it down.
It’s highly unlikely he could have went anywhere in that building and not eventually been discovered.
Did I miss something?
Nothing in this video tells me "What most likely happened."
Most of the other comments are highly complimentary, so I'll be kind, but, seriously, I didn't learn anything new, much less "what most likely happened."
I agree, it's exactly the same information that has already been stated in dozens of other true crime videos.
I came here to say that, what was the “Occum’s Razor” he was talking about?? So confused.
I literally rewatched it over and over trying to see what I missed! I finally figured it out. He thinks he went out an entrance that coincidentally didn't pick anything up on camera for one reason or another. He believes foul play occurred after her left the bar, due to the area having a high crime rate. Occams Razor comment is just the definition of the term. The most likely answer is probably what happened basically.
It's shit. Just reading off a page
@@fermentedpenny5264 "Occam’s Razor" just means the simplest solution is usually the correct one. In Brian's case, he probably left the bar via blind spot so the cameras didn't catch it and something tragic befell him on the 6 block walk home. Search parties do their best but they cannot look literally everywhere. Dogs are good, but it's probably beyond them to track a single scent a week after the fact with hundreds of people coming and going and cleaners using chemicals.
You got me with the title. It turns out you just recycled the story told 100 times over the last 10 years. Good work
Yeah, this RUclipsr is a clown show.
The 2019 murder of Elizabeth Barraza in Tomball Texas would be interesting for you to address.
5:35. Why is he always making those weird hand gestures? It’s in the other picture sitting with his girlfriend in a yard.
I wondered that too. Anyone?
Devil horns.
Not at all sus or strange. Very common actually...
Went looking for this, out of curiosity. Once in each of the photos with his gf, his dad, and his mom. But I doubt it's related to his disappearance.
My theory: Irish exited his friends to pick up some party d*ugs, deal went bad, killed, body went with the m*rderer and dumped somewhere and hasn't been found.
He never left. The bar covered it up because bad publicity. I just wish his family could have his remians. Like, clearly he's not with us anymore, but his friends and family still don't have closure.
if a missing dead mans apt gets burgled, how can they definitively say its not related.... sounds hella related...if you ask me
Right?? If he met foul play, they must've had his wallet and knew where he lived...came back for more maybe? IDK that's too much of a coincidence.
They use that as headline bait to say the manager gave the police permission to kick down the door lol
EASY!! The story was all over the news so criminals already KNEW he wouldn't be home... duh!
I think he went for a leak at the construction site and got trapped between two walls or fell in fresh poured concrete...
And the building workers coming in the next day would not have noticed a massive dent in the cement? I used to think something along those lines too but somehow that doesn't seem plausible either unless the construction workers were really ignorant unprofessional fools.
Has law enforcement checked that entire area….the building from top to bottom. I would think that they did…..Yes? No?
It has happened many many times before. If they were pouring cement early in the monitor they probably did not see him. And liquid cement would prevent decompositiin and obliterate any smell emanation. He is in that building in my opinion.
@@anthia1156your opinion is idiotic becuase the concrete was set way ahead. The building was built. They were doing finishing touches on the decor
There's nothing new in this video. Not even a new hypothesis.
Someone out there knows exactly what happened to Brian. And they really want this story to go away and for Brian to be forgotten about.
How is SUICIDE or SUICIDAL a censored word? I promise those words aren't triggered gto get someone to do it😂😂
Having the pressure to marry, his mom gone, the stress of medical school...sometimes people have an excellent ability to mask their pain. It is clear he wanted to disappear and not be found.
Right
It would take a pretty cold individual to leave his brother (who lost everything in short order) and girlfriend in the dark like that all these years. He seems thoughtful and doesn’t sound capable of that. And if they know where he is what is even the point of lying to authorities he’s not wanted for anything?
@@MrRyan-wu4jx thats why he didn’t want them to know. There is the stigma with depression. Not everyone will share their feelings and ultimately so feel imprisoned by the sickness.
@@MrRyan-wu4jxcold person? Depression can make people behave in ways they normally wouldn’t. To say it’s cold is pretending mental health issues play no part. If you are really low, the most warm hearted person can become despondent and not care about things anymore…
@@leannegarnett3777 you don’t need to tell me about depression. There’s no amount of depression that excuses or prevents you from being decent to others even if it gets harder. That would also imply this guy has been depressed every day since the mid 2000’s.
This case has been haunting me for years.
My grandfather went missing in 1960, when he was nearly 80 (im 50ish, he was 60 when my mom was born, his 2nd family), and the most logical explanation is that the river took him. he was walking out of town for a job, he really was too old to do, was following the river, and likely he fell, drowned, got caught in the brambles and branches, and was predated & dispersed before anyone noticed.
You grandfather was 80 in nineteen fkng sixty??? So you are going on like what is it 128 or 129 years old now?
@@SpinningCracKFisT Hell, I’m high af tonight so let’s work thru this-Grandfather was 79 in 1960, and fathered OP’s mother 19 years prior in 1941. If OP is 50ish then he/she was born in the early 1970’s when their mother was in her early 30’s. I’d say that’s plausible and OP is not over a century old as you say 😂
The real victim of this whole thing is Brian’s poor brother.
What does being poor have to do with it?
@@MrC9Oh3, not poor meaning “no money”. Poor meaning pitiable or unhappy. One deserving sympathy.
@@ItsJustLisa I know I'm just trolling
@@MrC9Oh3, I try to give the benefit of the doubt. A lot of people who come to the comments speak English as their second or third language. Having had many students over the years who didn’t speak English as their primary language and parents who spoke little to none, I prefer to educate rather than call them stupid like some people do.
@MrC9Oh3 wtf?
The area just south of this (at the time, not anymore) was pretty unsafe. I could easily see him getting a fight or something while hammered, getting killed on accident and then being disposed of in someway. It's the only thing that makes sense to me. Also this video says this area is quiet, NO this area is not quiet at all even at 2 AM, it's a college campus in a big city. There'd be lots of people even at 2 AM.
But the fact that it's so busy also discounts the possibility that he was just randomly killed by thugs in the street and they then proceeded to hide his body so well that he's never been found.
I don't know what kind of world you live in but when someone kills someone in a robbery in the street they don't then spend hours moving the body to bury them somewhere, they leave them where they fell and run.
Very sad, heartbreaking for Brian's family, especially his brother, who had to lose his mom, brother and dad in such a short time. And the mystery surrounding his disappearance remains a loose end. I think Brian is likely deceased as well. I think there could've been a fight in the building, away from cameras, maybe he was beaten, killed, and his body hidden away or driven away somewhere, out of view of the cameras. Sad, he seemed like an intelligent guy with a bright future.
A theory is got in a fight with the band accidentally killed and carried out with the band equipment
I wonder why they never show more of the footage. They don't even show Clint and the friend leaving without Brian. Why
More like Brian begged the band to take him with them. He just wanted to be in the band. I think it was a dream of his.
@@bulletsfordinner8307 that’s a good point. Perhaps some of the people in the footage are suspects or something and the police want to keep things close to the vest.
I think it is drug related. He went to that parking lot to meet his supplier. He had a debt with him,maybe...and things escalated.
I hope your dreams came true Bryan. Living on an island, drinking Margaritas and listening to Buffett. Maybe he couldn’t cope losing his mom. Idk. So sad and senseless. Poor Derek. 😢
What are the odd though, never being captured on camera anywhere, whether he went to an island, committed suicide, disappeared, or was murdered, and not a trace of him was found? So bizarre.
Brian.
i believe he planned his exit. i don't believe he was drunk either. why did he immediately go to talk to the band? He wanted to be a musician. i think he quizzed them to how to begin his dream.
@@jeannichols2459 Ridiculous 🤪😂It doesn't matter what you think. Only evidence matters.
@@natep1186sounds like an awful life to me lol especially listening to Buffet
I have seen a few vids and stories on this. My money is on that he went down elevator or stairway. Got out of building. Was walking on his way home. Was jumped and dragged into a vehicle or offered a ride and he took it, and was taken to an unknown location and his life was ended. He showed no signs of depression. No signs of wanting to disappear.
I don’t believe this man indented to disappear himself, something untoward.
Did the band have cases for their equipment? He went to them for drugs, maybe he had done that before. He died of an overdose and band put body into a case and rolled him out of the bar. Police were only counting bodies. Just as good as any theory.
That theory isn't new I think that's what happened ✨️
yeah...thats a good one
Did he do drugs?
Yeah, stuff a 6'2" guy into a guitar case in a small bar and nobody notices. Happens every day.
You’re accusing someone of being on drugs with this theory?? That’s wild.
Out of all the cases I see, the missing persons ones really get me thinking the most… horrible that someone can just vanish and loved ones never truly know or find out the truth of what happened to them.
Question: Why did Brian slip his cell phone into a female's purse (that had been left open for the purpose ?) at around 1.58am outside the bar on the night he disappeared ? It's on cctv footage which can be slowed down. Brian deliberately returned to the Bar just before closing. I wonder why ? I suspect he knew arrangements had been made. Did he exit the bar with the band through the kitchen ? In disguise ? Hidden in an amplifier ? He wanted to pursue a career playing in a band (which he wrote in his journal) not in medicine that he was studying. Brian arranged his own disappearance. Probably in cahoots with his friend 'Clint'. Who is also know by a different name, paid a lawyer to state he knows nothing more than he has already said. It's rare for that to happen in a missing persons case IMO. Did Brian pay or bribe anyone to help him disappear ? Why is 'Clint' so loyal to Brian and what happened that night, even to this day ? Is Brian paying for 'Clint' to keep the secret ?
missing persons cases really get me too. they’re so so sad. if you listen to really detailed accounts of the stories, a lot of times you can pretty easily deduce what happened to the person. and so they just remain officially unsolved because of negligent/stupid/corrupt police departments, lack of concrete evidence(only having circumstantial evidence), or the body not being able to be found. sometimes it’s all of the above.
i hate the cases where a someone’s been missing for like 10+ years, yet one day their body is discovered randomly by a civilian…..and the body ends up being less than like 5 miles away from where they were last seen. 😐 like come on! i swear to god most missing people are not even searched for at all.
Me too and unsolved murder cases
29.1% in Columbus. Not a city you want to be in late at night.
Not a city you want to be in ever!
@LocalFoe Do you know who Ron Pataky is? Throughout the 1970s and during the first half of 1980, he was an entertainment critic for the Columbus Citizen-Journal. In 1982 and 1983, Ron lived outside of Ohio, then he returned to Columbus and began telling people about his original photographic art that he was selling. Ron had launched his project while living outside Ohio. His huge photographic prints were artistic portrayals of various planets, satellites, constellations and other phenomena in outer space. Ron started creating and selling this stuff during the Reagan years, and he told Columbus residents that the president and First Lady had bought some of his (Ron’s) outer space artwork. He said they had written him personal letters on White House stationery to compliment him on the beauty of his work. If someone replied to Ron Pataky by suggesting that a member of the White House staff had sent him the letters of praise, and that the White House offices had a machine for signing President Reagan’s name on a short letter, that idea made Ron Pataky start yelling, and he insisted that both Ronald and Nancy Reagan genuinely enjoyed contemplating the photographic art. As you can tell, Ron Pataky was a creepy, egotistical resident of Columbus for many years. Is this your first time learning about him, LocalFoe? Or does another commentator here recognize Ron Pataky’s name?
The thing that I find really interesting yet baffling, is that he clearly did decide to exit the building via an alternative way, which means that he was avoiding someone or something, otherwise why didn't he just leave via the escalators?... There's something really off about the fact that he went a different way, then he just disappears... it's as if he KNEW something was about to happen (whether it was him making the decision to run away and be gone forever, or someone was after him?)
Or, he helped the band pack up their gear and left with them via the elevator,
He told his friends he was going to speak to the band.
He was a massive music nerd.
No one seems to have any information about this band, how many people were in it, whether they were ever interviewed, whether they were seen on any CCTV.
They were presumably the last people to speak to Brian, yet they're a complete mystery to everyone and the cops have absolutely no information about the band. It looks like the cops never even investigated the last people to possibly see him and speak to him. That displays a massive level of incompetence and it's probably why he's still missing to this day.
@@ct5625 No, apparently the band were spoken to by police and each member said they never saw Brian approach them.
I agree, the girls pointed at something and Brian looked worried glancing at the cops contemplating whether he should say something then walked towards the back exits. He was trying to avoid leaving the conventional route, which is why he went to talk to the band or said he was going to at the very least to stall. He tried sneaking out a back way, was met with foul play by someone or some group waiting for him who got into it with him at the bar that night, and abducted via car which is why his body was never found.
other possibilities: he slipped thru the Matrix to another dimension/realm. Also never count Alien abduction out. in the end it doesn't really matter it's still sad that someone like him would just disappear.
Yeah sure,that’s logical 🙄
And don’t discount Bigfoot.
This case hurts my brain. How could he just vanish
happens every day
I don't know why, but my mind keeps going to he may have crawled into the air conditioning ducts and overdosed with something.
How much alcohol did he consume? Was he intoxicated? Did he drink at all? Alcohol consumption is important to know……it plays a role in so many tragedies it’s hard to ignore.
He obviously had to have left the venue.
No other CCTV was released to the public.
There was a band playing that night and they would have left via the elevator.
Brian allegedly told his friends he was going to speak to the band (he was a music nerd).
I think the cops just missed a vital lead and didn't consider that Brian helped the band leave with their gear.
My theory is that he left with the band and something happened to him. The guys in the band did not want to be liable so they hid his body somewhere.
He never went back into the bar, plain and simple. He went off somewhere and I feel he was so drunk something bad happened to him.
@user-wf2kd6nm1n I couldn’t agree with you more. We can rule out Brian planning the whole thing in advance. We can rule out suicide and witness protection. In another thread here, someone (not me) concluded that witness protection explains everything. Wrong. If the FBI needs to put a second-year medical student in witness protection, the FBI agents don’t let the med student party or hit on a woman he doesn’t know immediately before they tell him to get in the car.
Don't say "plain & simple." That's so annoying. Why don't you solve the case if you're so wise? Clown
Most likely, he. Passed out drunk in the dumpster out back, and ended up in a landfill.
Somehow he went into a dumpster or was placed there but the dumpster is the only place he could have gone without a trace where they wouldn’t be able to find his body since it was 2 days after the fact that police were notified and then searched
They picked up Clint’s car in Brian’s apartment parking lot, but didn’t check in on him. WTF. I hear this all the time when people go missing after leaving bars. Why don’t friends check on each other? I’ll never understand that.
Yeah, I thought the same thing about poor Natalie Holloway. Her mother was at the airport to pick her up. She saw Natalie’s friends getting off the plain, but not her daughter. She asked them where Natalie was and I don’t know what they told her. Probably nothing helpful. I was disgusted with her “friends”. Her poor mother. 😢
Of all the hundreds (maybe thousands?) of missing persons' cases I have heard this one haunts me the most! Brian was big and strong! He was going on an exciting trip with a girl friend ( soon to be a fiance?) What happened????
I promise that Brian did NOT off himself after a night of fun partying and flirty fun with hot babes. He met with foul play, or suffered an accident where someone covered it up.
My buddy Justin Gaines went missing right after we graduated in 2007 (Atl suburbs) Still baffles me to this day with no “real” tips
missing like this guy? no clues or any trace?
Your friends case has always stuck in my mind 🙏
@lw3894 In what city did this happen? Did you ever notice Justin drink too much? Smoke weed?
sounds like he tried to meet up with and spend time every person who meant something to him before he left forever..
I live in Tecate, Mexico...it's 40 miles east of Tijuana and 30 miles south of San Diego. There's an American homeless man that I've talked, helped, given money to etc. for years and his name is Brian. I'm not sure what mental issues he has but when we talk, he goes in and out of reality and can become agitated very suddenly. I don't know if it's a good thing, but I must remind him of someone because he always says I'm his psychologist and he responds well to me. Anyway, I'm sure it's not him but this Brian looks very similar to the homeless Brian that is currently living in Tecate, Mexico.
He either died in the building and somehow still hasn't been found or the friends have something do to with it.
Isn't it a little odd that the friend didn't bother to check on him when he returned to get the car? Surely it might mean nothing, but if my friend 'disappeared on me' the night before, I would check on him to see if he was okay or just say hi if I was in front of his house / apartment.
I do understand the need to lawyer up, but now too much has passed and the friend is still very quiet. He might have helped him disappear or something, but still...
The building was searched thoroughly and no one ever complained of a foul odor there, so I believe he died elsewhere.
My favorite series on RUclips. I love the fact that y'all draw a likely outcome to these cases
You might like The Missing Enigma. He does a lot of missing 411 cases and what most likely happened. He's very thorough.
@@ScaryPoppins thank u. I'll check it out unless there's a paranormal undertone. That's not my flavor .
@jenniferbreaux7385 no he's actually a very logical thinker which is why I like to listen to him. I guess he likes to debunk the paranormal stuff.
@@ScaryPoppins thank u. That's what I prefer. I'll check it out.
Suicide ..there is generally a body .."
Unfortunately his father who was the one out there looking for him the most was killed when a tree fell on him because of the high winds produced by the remnants of Hurricane Ike.
That’s awful.
Title: What most likely happened.
Answer: We have no idea, but he's probably dead.
He said what most likely happened: foul play
He probably left thru the secondary exit to try and take a wiz, then decided meh I’ll just go home now. Stumbling home he probably ran into a Gacy style serial killer who abducted him by gun point, killed him snd buried his body later on. Very sad case, he looked like a really good dude
I agree-Irish goodbye, walked home without saying anything to anybody, on way home he was abducted and taken somewhere else far out in woods etc and disposed of. He was very handsome a a Gacy type man would have been like “Jackpot” it was a college town and those serial killers know those are good hunting grounds for inebriated targets.
There was no secondary exit just another door that led to construction area which he was on 2nd floor and would have to jump 30 feet to get down so maybe he did that but you figured the jump would injure or kill him
@@GreenLightMe freight elevator band used...he was last seen going to talk to band
My theory is that in his inebriated state, looking for something to take the edge off he tried a substance that he had never taken before. This may have caused him to OD in the bar. Potentially got it from someone at the har or somone who works there and died in the bathroom. The owners of the bar removed his body and disposed of it not wanting to face legal troubles for the situation.
This or it a a gone girl in a male situation.
The alcohol was enough for someone to take advantage of him….if he was very intoxicated. Did he do drugs? I don’t think they mentioned that.
@@laurenurban3942 how would they know if he did drugs? Not like they can test him... It's a theory.
One thing this video.missed is that , there.was construction work going on right side of the Bar where Brian was standing .
Why does everyone still act like "lie detector tests" are valid in any way? You might as well let the cops determine your guilt by reading tea leaves
The more you listen to the trail of breadcrumbs he was hinting at, the easier to understand it is.
My theory is that in an inebriated, distressed state after the loss of his mum, the seriousness of his relationship, and his expressions of “run away with me” became “find someone else” “I’m in a dark place”: guys don’t just say that, especially successful ones.
The drunken night accelerated a decision to do something irreparable in his mind, he was on his own outside the bar, snuck out one way or other, and disappeared of his own volition either to escape or reunite with his mum.
Clint ‘the friend’ knows more than he is letting on. Maybe he didn’t commit a crime but he seems freaked out that he will be in trouble if he reveals everything he knows. It’s really not normal for a 20-something year old to start spending thousands of dollars on a lawyer when they have nothing to hide.
because helped him to disappear . lie detector will notice that and they gonna press charges . easy peasy lemon squeezy
I 200% AGREE
Detectives can see right through that, if the dude was guilty they’d know it. Some people get nervous and lawyer up because they don’t want a murder being pinned on them.
@@larrydanadavid2435 so u are saying the same perceptive detectives would pin a murder case on him without solid evidence? I think he helped Brian escape or hide or something but then when Brian doesn’t turn up he gets nervous thinking the public will think he did it so best to avoid it. Something is fishy because his parents wouldn’t help him lawyer up financially if they didn’t fear something. Like I said he didn’t kill Brian but he knows something and is too afraid to reveal it. My gut feel. Usually people cooperate immediately if their friends meet a terrible fate - this guy just disappears and lawyers up.
I’ve watched enough true crime to know lots of innocent people get locked up for talking to the cops without a lawyer present. Sure it looks suspicious to lawyer up when you didn’t do anything, but it is the smart thing to do.
Other videos about this case make it seem like there was no other exit than the escalator. You have cleared up that there were other ways out of the building. I think he was lured outside somehow or was walking home and someone in a vehicle grabbed him off the street, abducted and murdered him. Maybe he had a squabble with the wrong people that night, or it was just a psycho.
Pretty common knowledge. There was also a side window
I love this channel because you all give plausible answers and info to cases that I’ve heard a bunch of times but didn’t hear certain very important info until you guys!! Top notch, can’t believe you all don’t have more views!
I hope Derek is doing okay.❤ my heart goes out to him. I hope he can heal and get some answers about his brother.
So did this video provide a ‘what likely happened’ scenario? No, it did not.
Clearly he did not commit suicide. His body would have been found.
I don’t think he ran away. He had too much to stay for and I don’t think he’d do that to his dad, his brother or his fiancée.
My guess is he went out the construction exit not covered by cameras, was murdered, and whoever did it put him in a car and made him disappear.
The two friends he was with - the female (Meredith) agreed to take a lie detector but the guy, Clint, refused.
That is troublesome. Why would he refuse? And why did he cut off all contact and communication with the police?
That’s a good point. Or his friend could be covering for him for some reason….such as Brian wanted to disappear and go join a band. I know that seems childish but what was it that Brian wanted to do…..hang out in the Virgin Islands and sip margaritas on the beach….something like that. That doesn’t sound like a future doctor. It sounds like a person who wants to do just that. Foul play….it depends on how intoxicated he was.
Eh because that’s a stupid thing to do as an innocent person, lie detectors aren’t admissible nor 100%, why would anyone want to do that then have the police try to pin it on him?
Because he was being publicly accused of something he couldn't have possibly done and the cops had already obviously screwed up this investigation from the very first hours.
Brian went to speak to the band who were playing that night. Therefore, the band are presumed to be the last people who saw Brian alive but the cops have said absolutely nothing about this band, who they were, where they were from, how many of them were playing there, or if they were even interviewed.
Clint was absolutely right to lawyer up and refuse a lie-detector test (they are 100% clownish and are used as a prop to scare idiot suspects into confessing, that's all).
@@ct5625 ..hmmmmmm. Interesting. Good info. I wonder why the video didn’t cover the band info.
He would fit right in, in Hawaii. His world crumbled ,he either deleted himself or chose another destination in an effort to see if he could even live with himself and his losses 😢❤
The vibe I get from this is that he was in the closet and either took a ride from or went home with the wrong person, imo.
This somehow makes me think of the case of Annie Le. Could Brian Shaffer's body have somehow been stuffed inside a wall?
One thing this video.missed is that , there.was construction work going on right side of the Bar where Brian was standing .
I think the decay stench would have given the body away. He’d have been found.
I do agree there was a lot of construction going on in that area. He could be in cement n
@@merlinshouseoffreereadings4641you don’t live in Columbus do you?
Fwiw, I've had two NDEs. In the second one, I was greeted by my great-grandfather and an old family dog. It was the most beautiful and surprising aspect of an amazing experience. I'm only writing it here in hopes folks know we're more than our physical bodies.
Take care, dear ones. We're in this together.
❤
Rubbish. NDE is just the brain releasing chemicals that cause vivid hallucinations. Same experience can be obtained by taking certain drugs like DMT. Doesn't prove there is an afterlife. When you actually die, there will most likely be nothingness, same as before you were conceived.
This is a beautiful comment. I wish you all the best.
I've had a few experiences of connection with departed family and family dog. The elation is indescribable and I hope I have more.
I am so sorry for Derek but I don't think Brian is alive . I hope at least he will get to see this mystery solved one day.
Thank God the word “suicide” is taken out. We haven’t had a single person take their own life in over a year now!
00:01 I thought you were telling a joke
Unalive himself, he probably got demonetized
Why you go out early and go home early. Too many weirdos in the small hours.
I remember when this happened. I lived in Columbus. I was so sure that they were going to find his remains behind something in the bar when it was shut down. Another thing that seems plausible is that he left by the stairwell, took a walk, and ended up in the river (a fall?) and washed away. :(
The theater that was part of the mall that UTS was in, was said to have a strong odor of something decaying after Brian's disappearance, which lasted for awhile. I believe cadaver dogs followed a scent outside of the establishment and ended at the Wendy's close by.
Who said this? Lol. What a clown.
they said scent dogs found the trail to wendys not cadaver dogs but maybe the dogs found the scent going in not going out and like you said he died on property
This case still haunts me. I have always believed it was unaliving. But I don't think his family had anything to do with it.
A college student here in Georgia disappeared from a bar under similar circumstances.
I think he was likely mugged in an alley while walking home. Maybe his body was thrown in a dumpster and got buried in a landfill.
12:52 I 100% disagree with that 🤷🏻♀️ Just because someone is outwardly doing well in life, outwardly seems happy, and isn't telling anyone doesn't mean they're not suicidal and depressed. I'm 32 and have suffered from depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, and suicidal actions since I was 11, and I abused drugs from the time I was 14/15 up until I was 25 to cope. And the ONLY time anyone had any idea what I was going through or what I went through was either when I straight up told them, they found me during one of my attempts, they saw my self harm marks, they found out I was in the psyche ward, or they were taking me to my therapy appointments. I stopped going to therapy when I was 15 (my "lovely" mom kept bitching about having to take me on top of me feeling like the therapist wasn't helping so I just stopped going) and after that up until I was in my early 20's everyone thought I was all good until my drug problems reared their ugly head then once I got sober at 25 until now once again everyone thinks i'm all good despite still suffering. Outwardly i'm happy and normal but inside i'm still a mess. Heartbreakingly that's a big problem with depression and suicide (and mental health issues in general) most people are REALLY good at hiding it for multiple reasons and sometimes when their loved ones finally figure out what someone has been going through it's too late and they beat themselves up for not knowing. I'm not saying that I think he did or didn't commit suicide but saying that just because he outwardly was fine and didn't tell anyone that he's automatically not depressed, wasn't suicidal, and didn't commit suicide is bad, enforces outdated beliefs about mental health issues, and causes more harm. To repeat i've suffered from this for over half of my life and know/have known other people who have too so trust me I know what i'm talking about.
You suffered from suicidal ideologies and drug addiction for years. He didn't. No comparison.
I agree with you, especially considering the huge pressure he was under to perform well in uni and to get married. The death of his mother, too. Anyone would be struggling with all that, then add alcohol to the mix, and some people become very maudlin and fixated on suicide.
I can see why you would come to the conclusion that he may have had suicidal thoughts, but in the case of his disappearance, suicide wasn’t what happened. Where would he have gone in the university district of Ohio State to kill himself that his body would have never been found?
There is no evidence that he would take his own life, that's the point.
Sure, people can hide stuff really well, but if people are going to assume that he did intend to end his life they are failing in basic investigatory procedure.
It is to be assumed that he didn't plan to end himself, until evidence arrives that he did.
we all need GOD perhaps you should turn to Jesus Christ
Considering even the craziest of possibilities, he may have wandered into a time warp or a portal or something like that. I do believe Brian is no longer of this world. This is so sad. Poor guy had everything to look forward to.
I think he left the bar. They would have smelled him by now.
It's pretty pathetic to have to bleep out the word suicide in a true crime documentary
Do they think by bleeping out the word, that it makes it go away?
No..but their potential revenue does..@@Neilsowards
2:50I hope the narrator/writer of this video knows that people who are happily married never thought their end of bachelorhood made a proposal "bitter, sweet.
I have seen Brian before when I lived by OSU. He used to go to the Health Science library before his disappearance. I didnt know he disappeared until the missing posters were placed up.
@@ih8utbe Was he nice to you? Was he usually dressed neatly? Shaven?
@@davidhenschel1990 yes but i only saw him rarely.
I think Brian made it out of the building through the construction site. His scent was tracked to that Wendys parking lot. From there he may have met foul play. The only reason he was never found is his body was put in the garbage and they didnt search the landfill until it was too late. By then it was transferred to Tennessee that Monday.
Alcohol can do crazy things to a person's mind-all it takes is a song, a conversation, seeing someone, or even seeing a stranger that reminds you of someone or something else. I believe he may have committed sepaku in some way, like a body of water, or, as this video states, he was a victim of foul play, and his body has been disposed of in the city or county dump, some random wooded area, a field, or an abandoned property somewhere.
Either way, it's completely heartbreaking, especially for the brother who's now lost his whole family. My heart bleeds for that poor man!
RIP Brian Schaffer and (Mom & Dad) Family 💔😭❤️♾️
So you think he disemboweled himself? Lol ok
@@seespencer
Who again was disemboweled-because his body's never been found?
Going bar hopping to do a shot at each one while struggling with mental health issues was a very poor choice.
The friend made a wise decision not taking the test. If he feels the slightest bit of guilt for not getting his friend home safe he’ll more than likely fail.
1. abduction/murders are almost never random. Of the random abduction/murders that do happen, almost none of them are of fit, strong young men. The idea that he was a victim of some random foul play is not likely. The theory of foul play would have more credibility if he was in some kind of trouble with someone, i.e. drugs or debt etc. There is no evidence to suggest that this is the case.
2. Despite what most RUclips videos suggest, It is not an absolute certainty that he didn't leave the bar via one of the exits. It is possible to have left without being picked up by CCTV.
3. Suicide is very often a spur of the moment act. Somebody can ideate it for a long time but never actually act on it...and then in a split second decide to just do it. Its very common. Especially when alcohol is involved. So when people say stuff like "oh they made plans" or "they registered for a library card" or "She said she'd see me tomorrow" etc etc as evidence that a person didnt intend to kill themselves, it's not true.
4. Clint lawyered up because Brian's dad was throwing around accusations. Up to that point he was cooperating fully. He has been investigated rigorously and is not hiding anything.
5. The facts that are in the public domain are just the tip of the iceberg. Likely less than 5% of what the entire investigation covers. Law enforcement will be privy to information that can all but confirm a hypothesis but cannot close the case because the evidence doesnt reach a certain threshold. The police in this case will have a pretty good idea of what happened here, but cant prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
drugs or a drug deal gone bad or OD ing are a possibility...his BF was Clint who was into heavy drugs according to many people commenting on this case ..so that points to B being someone who uses....
I think he had a heated argument with one of his friends, one of the bar workers or a customer and hid his body by the near by construction site. He did not commit suicide.
Dolt.