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is it even worth making MC videos in 2024-2025 I was actually wanted to do my very 1st HC Survival Series. please keep us posted when we can start streaming and uploading the game again in a time where it's more safe.
By the way, the the tracer AI likely violates RUclips’s TOS, last time i read through the policies for Manual Claiming, using a “generic” asset to claim videos, and automating the manual claiming tool doesn’t seem to be allowed.
*No. It is 100% allowed by yt to send automated requests.* Hi, person who actually checks stuff before saying anything: By law anyone is allowed to send any DMCA request to anyone, so you can mail away as many as you can to youtube and they can't "ban you" or "ignore you" if it's automated, and since youtube cuts corners, they just let the DMCA's slide (shame on them). You don't even need to send them a webform form yt studio, you can just email em pretending to be some random company taking down a random video and magically watch as videos that you claim get delisted. So, no, mojang isn't breaking youtube's tos, and no, fake DMCA claims are not illegal either, they're only illegal as a form of harassment and blah blah, mojang has enough of a defence unfortunately. So what can you do to combat it? legally? nothing. suing youtube or mojang is impossible. RUclips is the biggest at fault for letting these slide under no review and mojang unfortunately a good defence. It's dumb, makes no sense, and would be nice if there was "a good side" to this, but alas everything sucks and this is how youtube and big tech works. Best chance is hoping and praying mojang quits it via community outlash :P (this is a repost of my comment because last time i mentioned their email and my comment got voided lol)
@Seed In theory tracers ai should only be allowed to flag videos for humans to then review. The strikes do suggests this happened as the infringement is "MRK: Minecraft game copyright" MRK referring to something along the lines of manual review. It would be incredibly stupid for Mojang to just let the ai run without some kind of basic human review. In this case it would probably have been a random dude accepting all flags Tracers AI supplied. Making it at least slightly less against tos
The problem is the use of AI. We seriously need to push back against the use of AI for copyright enforcement. Innocent people are gonna lose their channels because AI is very susceptible to false positives.
@@TakashiGolbach that's a very bad take. Because you can use a hammer to break something carelessly, doesn't invalidate all the other purposes the hammer could have. It's the same with any technology and tool. Also if you weren't aware, inventions for warfare often became beneficial to the common people because the tool/invention has more uses that we explored, that weren't about harm. You're painting all AI with too wide a brush because you don't like one example of harmful AI usage.
@@translatedbird I can't think of *any* use of AI that doesn't have a downside. Using it for copyright claims results in false positives. Using it for generative art hurts the jobs of actual artists. Using it to summarize web searches results in misinformation being displayed.
@@translatedbird Yeah I understand your point, I may have unintentionally did that because not all AI is really bad tbh. It's just alot of shee uses AI and then it marks things as false positives.
There was one person who got nuked off the internet due to mojang abusing copyright and DMCA. They were the one to found the majority of the unlisted content on the bedrock marketplace, along with obtaining dev versions/tools. Mojang got so agro, that they DMCA a video of just a powerpoint slideshow of words JUST talking about how Mojang is targeting them... (zero mc content at all but mojang still said it had their work....). This was no AI doing this either
Yeah, I've seen several takedowns for similar situations as well. Unfortunately, because Mojang has completely scrubbed the internet clean of most discussion of them, I couldn't find any reliable sources for this video.
As one of the people who tried to document the existance of these versions (Besides Tantalus C), I can confirm this. Mojang striked my video and others just explaining the existance of dev versions and the reason is either "Stylized Logo" or "Gameplay"
There should be a cooldown timer of about one month after each strike can be placed, and even so RUclipsrs SHOULD be able to combat them, defend themselves and their entire career. Not have it completely gone because of this corporate abuse.
Then we get into a moral issue of the boy who cried wolf. Still, it's required no matter who it is to allow copyright claims against others since it's an already established protected asset. Because if people or companies lose their ability to make copyright claims, then there would be no restriction on people using the material that is protected by copyright. Take Nintendo for example, a notorious example yes, but if they suddenly couldn't protect their copyright then who's to stop bad actors who get access to unreleased content and put up video of it on youtube? Like if someone recorded the mario movie in theaters on their phone and put it up on youtube while it was still in theaters? Nintendo would have no immediate recourse to stop that
@@Skellitor301_VA "Take Nintendo for example, a notorious example yes, but if they suddenly couldn't protect their copyright then who's to stop bad actors who get access to unreleased content and put up video of it on youtube? Like if someone recorded the mario movie in theaters on their phone and put it up on youtube while it was still in theaters? Nintendo would have no immediate recourse to stop that" Well, that's what they get when they abuse the Copyright System to take down content creators that followed every rule in YT's rulebook .
@@oriongear2499 Sorry but no, that's very much illegal as it goes against the DMCA. That can allow bad actors like movie pirates to start posting theater recordings onto RUclips if that happened along with other things that goes against the DMCA. Just because someone believes that because it sucks to deal with the recourse should be taking away a legally protected right? That's not a solution, that just causes more problems and cause so much financial damage to not just the copyright holder but to RUclips and the channels involved. If the damages are high enough, those people go to federal prison, and being a convicted felon is not worth this sticking it to the man ideal. No, there already are recourses in place, the main reason why we dont see those recourses be enacted on these companies is because the people who get copyright strikes do not pursue legal action and prove that they were using fair use. RUclips cannot get in the middle of that or they will lose their protections to operate as a third party. It's up to the channel to prove that the company has violated fair use, and then the recourses can be implemented. But no, people more often than not are scared to lose their channel and don't see the immediate benefit of doing counter-claims. So It's not RUclips that's doing this, it's the people who don't exercise their legal right to defend themselves.
@@Skellitor301_VAa middle ground could be RUclips has someone review each strike before it goes through but that has it’s own problems. Like hiring someone which costs RUclips money they don’t need to spend.
I hope they'll get stopped soon. This seems horrible. It's Nintendo-core behaviour, except it's literally in Minecraft where the whole appeal of the game is that everything is about player freedom. A bit dystopian
assuming just because the software is newly released doesn't mean it's jumping the gun and reckless. Newly released does not mean it was released with no prior testing or development. Even still, looking at how Tracer does their reviews, the responsibility for confirming copyright violations is 100% on the customer, not the AI. The AI is only being used to find potentially violating material using image and audio recognition, runs predetermined rule checks on the flagged stuff, and if it is considered violating it's reported to the customer for review. If the customer reports back saying it's violating their copyright, Tracer will submit it as an agent on behalf of them. So, no. Not an issue with the tool used for detection, still an issue of either Mojang or Microsoft getting antsy with the submit claim button.
It's not, I looked into the RUclips TOS and how Tracer AI works. Tracer AI is only a detection and reporting system that reports potential material to the customer that holds the copyright, and if the customer says it does, Tracer will act as an agent on behalf of them and submit the copyright notice to RUclips. RUclips has a system in place for agents to frequently submit claims, so that is not against the TOS. Using image and audio recognition AI and algorithms to determine if what the AI found is potentially legit, and then manually reviewed by the customer, is also not against the RUclips TOS.
youtube seriously needs a punishment system for copyright abuse. they should also help victims of copy strike abuse pursue legal action against the perpetrators, because it's illegal to abuse dmca takedown systems.
@@Genielamp25 They do have a punishment system for copyright abuse. However, RUclips cannot participate or help pursue abuse with legal action or they will lose their status as a non-biased party. Look into their copyright system and how that stuff is processed, the things you are demanding are already there. The only thing that they cannot get involved with are legal battles on behalf of any claims or abuse.
No it doesn't. The AI isn't even making the claims, it only detects potential violations for Tracers clients and the client reviews what the AI finds. From then on the AI is out of the picture. Even still, AI has uses commercially outside of detection, but also corrections like with Steve Moulds video on life sized Poppop boats where he used it to fix the audio so you can hear his voice while next to a loud poppop boat. Not to mention for artists and VA's you can set up licensing deals for art styles and voice lines to be used as data, and the artists in the end get a cut for the use of that data in licensing payments. There's tons of ways AI can be commercialized and be made to be profitable for many people, not to mention all the good it can do. Remember, AI is just a tool, the person using it can use it for good or bad just like any other tool or weapon.
not wihout human oversight you mean. ai itself just needs to be keep in check with humans keeping it in line and to tell it what and how it sould contier how to apply itself. also put some bulit in deadmen siwtchs to turn it off or override it for debuging issues if it starts maeking to many mistakes.
This statement is a lot more than you think. Commercially includes anything that may have monetary purposes, including checking for errors in codes, adjustments in graphics or even search for treatment for diseases.
I myself have had a video taken down. It was back in 2021, a tutorial of how to install the Minecraft Plus screensaver they put out for april fools that year. Got a community guidelines strike from that. Took a solid 3 weeks of going back and fourth with youtube support, I finally managed to get it back. I hate how stuff like this happens so much now, Just so incredibly frustrating.
Copyright is in such a stupid state right now. Companies should not be able to control what users record about their product in any way. It is authoritarian to be able to dictate the acceptable opinions and discussions of a product. The only reason we don't have fair copyright legislation in America is because Republicans in the senate would filibuster such legislation.
The Way Copyright Is Determine Is Dumb. I Remember Watching Many Minecraft Videos Made By Stampy And DanTDM When I Was Little And Liking Them. It Almost Sounds Fake That Minecraft Wants To Do Stuff Against Minecraft RUclipsrs And Others.
Copyright law is so broken, the fact that mojang technically has the right to take down most of these examples is insane. Support organizations like the electronic frontier foundation that are trying to change copyright law!
maybe they don't have that right. Maybe YT just does what it wants. None of this stuff we see going on is following the letter of the law. People get strikes for copyright on their own created content.
No its not...pokemon videos most specifically tutorials aren't being taken down...and also...Nintendo won't kill you for saying the word pokemon...we all know mojang is shit...more shit than Nintendo actually...
this incident should be proof that AI is NOT fit for legal service and copyright detection. seriously, companies should be patient and wait till the AI is more developed rather than jumping straight into it and letting it do a bunch of things that shouldn't even happen
maaaan, mojang is becoming Nintendo, can't have shit in detroit first it was the jenny mod, now this?! Absolutely unforgivable, 0/10 for microsoft, give us mojang back!
To be honest, Mojang deleting the Jenny mod was actually a very good decision for Minecraft. If you disagree, you are either an another teenager with p*rn addiction or you are a very lonely young adult who needs to socialize with a woman face to face more often.
@@berndlauert8179 i kinda think it should be a thing But actually monitored by a person with logical reasoning and understanding But we cant have that now can we :c But to let ai use it Is such a bad thing fr Especially with how new this one is (im just gonna assume with how trigger happy the ai and people behind the ai are like crypto bros of some kind and just striking anything idk i think thats funny in different way)
Nah it isn’t Mojang but Microsoft, PhoenixSC made a video exposing the videos that got taken down and they were all claimed by Microsoft rather than Mojang
Mojang has been turning against their community for years now, they're just like every other corporation now. Whats even more frustrating is that these seem to be particularly focused on stamping out criticism, I recently saw a video get taken down that was literally ranking Minecraft music (but of course put the oldies at the top), but upon searching it up to see if it had been reuploaded, other videos on the same topic which were a lot more generous to the modern development were just fine. They're known for now taking down videos on various clients, and general Minecraft criticism seems to be getting squashed, anything they don't like is now getting removed. I don't know why people still defend this company, they're not the same as the one we knew and loved and which cherished its community first and foremost.
Mojang hasn't cared about their community for years.. they only care about deepening their pockets, they only change things for the better after the community turns against them completely.
For real. RUclips should be about freedom of speech. I can slightly comprehend political videos being taken down, dislikes being removed, and algorithm being manipulated time and time again for their stupid oh-so-important branding. But taking down Minecraft videos in mass, automatically, allowing bots to wreck havoc of everything we, the community have built, offering ZERO support, no wiggle room, completely destroying multiple entire RUclipsrs' careers over 3 falsely claimed videos?
Yes and no. Some of this went back 12 years, so that's a little before the buyout (2014 buyout) and would be on Mojang. Most of it is absolutely M$ though. Most likely whatever idiot started it in Mojang kept their position and is now running amok with M$'s blessing.
We can't just keep deflecting the blame to Micro$oft forever though, at some point we have to accept that Mojang itself has had a drastic change in culture and is no longer the same company that we all knew and loved from the golden age. Is Micro$oft to blame for a much of this? Yeah, sure. But Mojang isn't purely innocent either, and the way they've treated the community can't be ignored.
filing false DMCA claims is a serious crime. Microsoft should get in a LOT of trouble for this, but since they are rich, the law does not apply apparently
No. Stopping you right there. There's no "On accident" when it comes to copyright strikes. They are willfully destroying their community for whatever stupid reason, but it's not "oopsie".
@PaggleWaggIe faulty ai has nothing to do with it as everything the ai processes as copyright strike is sent to a real person very quickly and reviewed by a real person
@@Angeldust_fan_acc oh okay, i see now! but can you rule out a human error? maybe there are lazy/misunderstood reviews of videos? but obvs not an excuse for them if that's the case
@@Angeldust_fan_acc this is simply, 100%, completely not true. There's no downside to just letting bots report content and all upsides - anything it reports you get money from. there's absolutely no consequences to lying about owning copyright.
Big corporations do what big corporations usually do. We shouldn't just sit and watch, right? As a community we should do something to show Moyang what people are not happy about thier copyright decisions. We can't just bother poor devs on twitter or something, then what can we do? Spreading the massage is an option but I am not sure if it is enough or not. I am genuinely asking.
Yeah, class action lawsuits should become better accessible to people, internationally even. People should be allowed to fight back abuse. Yes, even for Minecraft. It's not just about Minecraft, it's beyond that. It's just about everything. Abuse is real and it affects all of us in the worst of ways. Personally I've had enough. I'm sure A LOT of people have had enough too. If only we knew how to fight back, together, fighting for a common cause, we'd show these clowns what it means to try and destroy people's entire careers and lives like this. Not just voicing our opinions to a wall, but having a say in all this.
everyone complaining about copyright laws, and it's actually YT, and large companies just doing what they want using some half-baked copyright infringement nonsense. These are legal decisions being made with YT acting as a prosecutor and judge, it seems. I know people with copyright strikes on their own created content ffs. "This other party states it is their painting..."
There has for the longest of time existed a little Lua game engine called Minetest. Rebranded recently to Luanti. Java Minecraft. That being pre RTX/Combat update/Elytra/bad peformance/Bedrock M$ edition. I mean... I even prefer Minecraft before the 1.0 update. Enchanting with XP tools. Well. It turned the little Indi-game, from being that innocent fun block game. But the best of all? FTB/Modpacks. That was what made Minecraft fun again. Actual good updates. If so user created. Microsoft forced us to Mojang Account Migration. That says it all. And here we are. Microsoft Recall is using AI like this? Who would have guessed. Minecraft Store and everything imaginable. I wounder what happened with that Hypixle standalone game. It is like how EA is going to very soon be completely overtaken by far better The Sims games. Competition alone could have forced Mojang to have to behave. EA did stopped even trying to make a The Sims 5 with the competition showing up. If only the block game could also have that happen. Terraria aside. Instead, we might be lucky if enough people and so players... Moves over and make something far better then Minecraft has ever been for the last 10years. We are getting old. 2014 Minecraft. FTB Ultimate, was released on Minecraft 1.4.7 in 2014. There are so many grate modpacks and user created mods like Creative or whatever. But I really thing 2014-16 was the peak of Mc. The minecraft we knew? It was turned into a mobile-phone game. Called bedrock edition. Microsoft edition. The endlessly broken and unfix able edition of badly performing c++ code.
@@TheDiner50 yep, they cater to their biggest market, people on crap devices for gaming. That is why Java is so important. The updates wear off very quickly, and the modding allows us to take the vanilla game to whatever play level we desire. For the record and to have an opinion based on experience, I bought 12 add ons in the Marketplace. Poorly executed copies, at best. I can't get near what I have on Jave, and 20 more add ons isn't going to fix it.
you cant see them blatantly intentionally doing this over and over fully on purpose and then go "..i dont think its intentional. accidents happen. but this has happened too much..but accidents happen..have a good day." bruh
Class action y'all get a lawyer and take it to Mojang. If they are so concerned about this they should EMPLOY PEOPLE to do this. Make sure they know that they are NOT able to destroy the income of others on the whim of a robot.
@@андрей_свиридов until they do Streisand effect is real, and if there is even a slight chance that content farms videos about MC can get nuked they will stop making minecraft videos mojang will lose money and they lose money FAST
mojang is one of the many companies that turned on their own fanbase for no reason whatsoever like with godot like with unity like with many other companies that just decide that they do not want to make money anymore XDDDDD
No it's just that they hate us and want us disappeared and silenced, but of course they LOVEEEE all the publicity they got from us and all our videos, and are looking forward for even more ways to extort us of our money, pride, and RIGHTS!
Something sorta similar happened to my channel some years back. I used to upload tutorials on how to download things like Forge and Fabric mod loader, that sort of thing. Every one of them got demonetized for something along the lines of "Hacking and exploits" even though I never mentioned either of those things (I'm personally VERY against them). Last year I was able to remonetize a lot of them, but the damage was done.
I pulled all my vids a few years back when they began to demonatize them. YT still put ads on the page, and I thought, nope. Apparently my cooking in the outdoors with big scary knives was too much. It's just too easy for any moron to click Report. And more easy for YT to just go with it.
That reminds me of a thing that happened to me over two years ago, to my second or third video in Minecraft Java. In the video I just have the in-game sound overlayed with my mic and one day I suddenly got a copyright claim from JASRAC_CS for using "Wet hands" by C418 in the video (according to my research that is a Japanese copyright company, no clue why they were claiming stuff on my German channel about a Swedish game). I appealed and after three seconds I got an email that the appeal had been reviewed manually and after careful consideration been refused. And mind you, that was in august 2022, quite a while before AI started to take off.
Modified clients are not illegal. Whether they are against EULA depends on what EULA you are subject to. If you purchased the game before May 24, 2011, you're not subject to revision to the contract so these changes do not apply to you. Those of you who are subject to revision are still entitled to legal notice of EULA update AND entitled to an opportunity to accept or reject the terms, which will change your rights. Mojang assumes it can apply EULA to everyone but it can't because not everyone is a customer and Mojang has to tread carefully with fair use.
This just sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. I get they need to protect their IP, but outsourcing it to some asset protection company is not the way to go. If it's that big of a deal, then Mojang should set up their own department and sort the issue out in house with people who do know what they're doing. After all, it's not like Mojang are exactly short of funds being owned by Minecraft. I just hope they remember that while protecting their IP is important, the community is even more important - what's the point of protecting the IP of a game that no-one is playing (Not that I think any of this would cause everyone to stop playing, MC is too big for that. But just speaking hypothetically anyway.)
Mojang is OWNED by Microsoft since 2014. Mojang creates content for “that game” that is no longer theirs.( I’m not mentioning the name on purpose in my comment-you’re welcome) Microsoft is the greedy reckless company who must be doing this. Thanks for your video- people should know- and Microsoft should be held accountable for the loss of livelihood. Keep up the great work! Subscribed!
I've got copyrighted for a song I did not played in one of my streams. I was just creating a bass line and boom, RUclips copyrighted me. Of course I'm not responding to that bs copyright claim. Seems like even RUclips is broken, rather than just the tracer AI. Let me know if anyone got some false copyright claims.
A TOS violation is NOT a Copyright violation. Using the DMCA take down system to punish for TOS violations is ILLEGAL (as in, a violation of federal copyright law).
This is very stupid on their part, considering that Hytale is right around the corner. Stuff like this just might push people to try their soon to be competition.
We really do have to start blocking corporations from doing this crap but we won't because "they should be allowed to own content about their game" and really you just deserve no respect at that point
i entirely disagree with how brutal mojang are being, but to maintain keeping their copyrights they are obligated to send out DMCAs against any infringing content. They're just casting too wide of a net and purposefully taking down content they don't like!
Pausing the video at 1:15 to leave this comment The issue with the "Hacked Client" videos is that to some it would imply "a free installation of Minecraft", which is simply just an issue of people getting the difference between "hacked" and "cracked" confused
In the EU the AI use for RUclips strikes is not allowed, same goes to using AI in banneble stuff. It has to be fully checked by humans to be legitimate.
Honestly, most of these incidents are so different and isolated that they really do seem like weird mistakes. You gotta remember that this video talks about say, 5 incidents that happened over the span of years, it seems like something that doesn't happen often. Most of these people were able to recover their videos anyway and the long wait process is way more of a youtube issue than a Mojang issue. Most of the hacked client stuff doesn't make any sense though, but that was a terrible AI. I definitely feel like they just need to spruce up their copyright detection system a bit. They aren't blameless but I just want you to know that this is not as big of a deal as the video makes it out to be and this definitely could be a systematic issue rather than done out of pure mal intent.
@PhonyLyzard There's more cases than this, these are just some of the strongest ones. There was also a controversy over a Minecraft partner, CompyCraft, that was copyright striking videos that criticized their works from the Minecraft Marketplace, and there was a *big* controversy over Mojang's censorship of videos discussing their development builds. Largely though, the problem is less that they *are* falsely detecting copyright, and more how they handle it. You don't *have* to strike videos that infringe on your copyright - you can choose to monetize them for yourself, or to warn them, or to just take the video down without a strike. You have to explicitly choose that you *want* to strike the video, causing the creator to be at risk and making it impossible for them to upload for a week. Then, there's filing strikes under the wrong category specifically to make them impossible to appeal (which was seemingly done in the case of Rays Works and PiiikaJ), which is scummy at best. And finally, there's the fact that Mojang initially had absolutely no way to contact them about these false strikes. The only contact given was one from Tracer.AI, and there wasn't a single response to emails sent there until large RUclipsrs covered this situation and Mojang got large-scale community backlash.
@@mcbyt Yeah, fair. This is a problem. But I still believe that these cases in the video were quite minor and if this is the worst case scenario then I can't imagine anything less being that big of a deal. These are definitely a hassle for the creators, but it still seems like more of a RUclips issue to me. The lack of a way to contact them is implied to be a fixed issue in your reply, but I don't think that was around when you were making this video so it's a fair complaint. I also feel the issue with CompyCraft has been solved, granted, I don't really know what you're talking about, but there are plenty of videos up complaining about the marketplace left that haven't been striked so I think it's fine now. They definitely need to improve their system for this sort of thing but I still am not sure if this is really as big a deal as you make it out to be. I mean, no one ever talks about all the fair copyright strikes and takedowns. What about those. As another comment has said "What's an acceptable failure rate?" I am glad you made this video since criticism towards this is always good. I just think the thumbnail and title makes this situation look like a bigger deal than it is. It seems like most Minecraft content will be left unaffected and that, judging by some other comments and my own viewer experience, a lot of these issues have been fixed.
@@PhonyLyzardMan, you're really kissing the big tech's boots on this one. Looking straight at the evidence of abuse and still refusing to see it. "It's not a big deal", yeah no sure, all the mass censorship, mass control, and it being this easy to ruin entire people's career over Minecraft videos, "I'm sure this is not a big deal". When is the last time that any big corporation corrected their wrongdoings on their own?
@@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 I guess you're right. I didn't really see it as not an issue though, I moreso saw it as not as big of an issue as this video made it seem. These examples are spread over the course of years, and if they make a couple mistakes over the course of several years that's a pretty good track record. If we're talking about the lates issues with people using hacked clients and stuff, that's just paranoia. I don't know why the take down those. Also Mojang isn't a tech company. They're a videogame developer.
Most Minecraft videos totally violate copyright. WTF this is not even a question only a child would think this is what fair use covers. Reality is that all this stuff is not legal and therefore at the mercy of the copyright owning corporations.
So a conclusion early in this video is that MS has the right to strike channels and videos that feature subjects about hacked clients. But that is not the case. The only reason why one can strike a video under DMCA is for copyright infringement. Featuring the subject of hacked clients is no copyright infringement by any means. If YT decided to take action against a video/channel in regards to their TOS being violated for talking about these subjects, that is their choice. Microsoft is technically committing an act of perjury by taking these videos down. This is something that need to be understood about the proper use of DMCA takedowns. The only reason afaik that one can take down a video because of DMCA is if it violates copyright. Thats it.
I think its justifiable for any company, including Mojang, to take down hacked clients for Java or Bedrock. If its just a client that does nothing that affects gameplay to other players than it should stay. Using AI or hiring someone that doesn't know what they're doing to copyright strike people's videos for doing nothing harmful to the game or its company isn't good.
Is a terms of service violation alone really a copyright matter though? Seems like, even if the vid were regarding an exploit, it'd be a lazy and abusive thing to go after the vid using the DMCA.
Update, Now Microsoft and Mojang They are trying to remove the SkyBlock trademark from Noobcrew because that would mean losing money on Minecraft Bedrock.
if they dmca remove this video i would be supper pissed as it talks about how and why this dmca removal of perfectly good innocent videos getting taken down for nothing.
Just think about the seriousness of what is happening here. If posting their website link is a copyright violation, then using any of their URL's is also a copyright violation. They could start legal cases against anyone who visits any of their websites for copyright violations. I am shocked that Tracer, Mojang, and Microsoft haven't been sued over this yet. They have caused serious damage by their actions! Even Google and RUclips should have been sued over this for the way they are handling all of this. Just their improper investigations at these allegations are more than enough cause for a lawsuit! I am also shocked that this information isn't more public. I wonder if MC will continue receiving all the support that it currently gets once people discover just how dangerous it can be to talk about it. A single copyright violation could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars or more. I, myself can't afford to pay that much just to write out a URL to visit a website and I don't know anyone else that can, do you?
The new TOS is a fiasco. Remember when it was just "you own the game?" Good times... Its amazing how forcing new crappy TOS's after purchase is even legal
The point of a system is what it does. This is a common phrase in programming and it applies here. They need to fix it because if they don’t we can only say they believe it’s working as intended. Love Mojang and Minecraft, but they need to reevaluate how they protect their community from themseves.
This has now made me aware my own videos were getting private... I don't make that kind of content. Literally the ones made private were some let's play videos, an animated music video That I made, and me just goofing around in Minecraft.
DMCA Can not be used to enforce TOS , Its for enforcing Intellectual property , So yes , they can DMCA the hacked clients , But showing exploits or exploiting in videos can not have them DMCA , Its an abuse of the law.
It's something that they need to fix. This has been off and on for 12 years or more, they should know by now not to do this stuff. If it was actually about hacking ruining people's experiences, I'd be more understanding, but they took down way more and for no good reason.
This happened to a lot of us, but I noticed they began to rescind/remove a lot of claims thankfully, I imagine they noticed there was a problem. Beat me to making a video on it, thanks for covering!
Yeah, fortunately claims have started to be reverted from this recent wave. It's not finished yet (last I heard from itsme64 he only had 1 of the 2 strikes removed, and I've heard a few other people that got struck multiple times are having the same problem) but most of them have been removed which is really good to see
@@mcbyt I think the important thing is to appeal them and cite the Terms of Use and Laws, but ultimately its up to them to release it since unfortunately RUclips never interject in copyright appeals so they can protect themselves so its always up to the claimant.
I long sence got bord of minecraft Im an alpha player I remember the days of one biome one tree type and no npc villages were a thing. Over the resent years I have been growing distain for mojang with how they are handling minecraft to the point it has now turned to hate and this has only made it worse. That said thank you for covering this as some one needs to shed a light on this stuff.
This is becoming an epidemic, not just from Mojang or even Microsoft, but ACROSS THE BOARD. Companies realized that RUclips’s copyright system was rife for abuse, so they ALL hopped on the bandwagon. Many people who were doing fair use parodies and fair use reviews are getting stuck as well. It’s about high time that content creators band together and file a class action suit and take not only these companies but Google themselves to task. If people hit them where it hurts (aka the same place these companies struck them [right in the ol’ pocketbook]) then maybe they’d start paying attention and make sure their claims are actually legit. Did you know it’s actually illegal to abuse the copyright system as such? Like actually criminally illegal. If these companies get their way there will not be any such thing as artistic expression because even painters will be like “well am I allowed to draw this art on RUclips or will the company, who’s paint I purchased and used, file a dmca takedown claiming I stole their intellectual property since I showed their paint on a canvas? I mean, it’s not like I showed their tube…”. It is legitimately disgusting how they feel they can just up and walk over enterprising young entrepreneurs because “screw you I’m a big company.” Sorry to rant but many of my favorite content creators are leaving RUclips in droves over these issues, and before long my disabled behind will wither away and die from sheer boredom. Keep up the good work spreading this message. We need to spread this issue as far and wide as we can so we can fix it before it’s way too late.
It feels like 2024 is the year in which all better known companies completely lose their minds just to screw their users and/or to have some weird self-destructive power trip... Just to find out, that it has been going on for far longer and its now just getting to the surfacing.
I think it would be amazing if someone made a program or a bot that constantly reports Mojang's RUclips account for copyright on every single video, 6 times a day from places all over the world just to get their RUclips account shut down permanently, I think that would be funny
Thing is AI is good at spotting things but not discerning, so if I were Mojang, I would keep AI however have an actual human to verify the AI, otherwise this will become to a point of a blemish on their records. I not saying this to point fingers, but rather a real possibility of them getting law suites from other companies out there
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hey
Microsoft Moment.
is it even worth making MC videos in 2024-2025 I was actually wanted to do my very 1st HC Survival Series. please keep us posted when we can start streaming and uploading the game again in a time where it's more safe.
Shaders and settings?
This is just sad Mojang just sad. 😕
By the way, the the tracer AI likely violates RUclips’s TOS, last time i read through the policies for Manual Claiming, using a “generic” asset to claim videos, and automating the manual claiming tool doesn’t seem to be allowed.
bruh...
*No. It is 100% allowed by yt to send automated requests.*
Hi, person who actually checks stuff before saying anything:
By law anyone is allowed to send any DMCA request to anyone, so you can mail away as many as you can to youtube and they can't "ban you" or "ignore you" if it's automated, and since youtube cuts corners, they just let the DMCA's slide (shame on them). You don't even need to send them a webform form yt studio, you can just email em pretending to be some random company taking down a random video and magically watch as videos that you claim get delisted.
So, no, mojang isn't breaking youtube's tos, and no, fake DMCA claims are not illegal either, they're only illegal as a form of harassment and blah blah, mojang has enough of a defence unfortunately.
So what can you do to combat it? legally? nothing. suing youtube or mojang is impossible. RUclips is the biggest at fault for letting these slide under no review and mojang unfortunately a good defence.
It's dumb, makes no sense, and would be nice if there was "a good side" to this, but alas everything sucks and this is how youtube and big tech works. Best chance is hoping and praying mojang quits it via community outlash :P
(this is a repost of my comment because last time i mentioned their email and my comment got voided lol)
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(It does)
@Seed In theory tracers ai should only be allowed to flag videos for humans to then review. The strikes do suggests this happened as the infringement is "MRK: Minecraft game copyright" MRK referring to something along the lines of manual review.
It would be incredibly stupid for Mojang to just let the ai run without some kind of basic human review. In this case it would probably have been a random dude accepting all flags Tracers AI supplied. Making it at least slightly less against tos
The problem is the use of AI. We seriously need to push back against the use of AI for copyright enforcement. Innocent people are gonna lose their channels because AI is very susceptible to false positives.
Yeah, using AI for stuff like this is very dangerous.
Honestly, I believe AI should be abolished. It's just recipe for disaster, and false positivity.
@@TakashiGolbach that's a very bad take.
Because you can use a hammer to break something carelessly, doesn't invalidate all the other purposes the hammer could have. It's the same with any technology and tool. Also if you weren't aware, inventions for warfare often became beneficial to the common people because the tool/invention has more uses that we explored, that weren't about harm.
You're painting all AI with too wide a brush because you don't like one example of harmful AI usage.
@@translatedbird I can't think of *any* use of AI that doesn't have a downside.
Using it for copyright claims results in false positives.
Using it for generative art hurts the jobs of actual artists.
Using it to summarize web searches results in misinformation being displayed.
@@translatedbird Yeah I understand your point, I may have unintentionally did that because not all AI is really bad tbh. It's just alot of shee uses AI and then it marks things as false positives.
There was one person who got nuked off the internet due to mojang abusing copyright and DMCA. They were the one to found the majority of the unlisted content on the bedrock marketplace, along with obtaining dev versions/tools. Mojang got so agro, that they DMCA a video of just a powerpoint slideshow of words JUST talking about how Mojang is targeting them... (zero mc content at all but mojang still said it had their work....). This was no AI doing this either
Yeah, I've seen several takedowns for similar situations as well. Unfortunately, because Mojang has completely scrubbed the internet clean of most discussion of them, I couldn't find any reliable sources for this video.
As one of the people who tried to document the existance of these versions (Besides Tantalus C), I can confirm this.
Mojang striked my video and others just explaining the existance of dev versions and the reason is either "Stylized Logo" or "Gameplay"
mojang be like: we love our community
i mean... fuck even nintendo isn't that pathetic
Yeah, that's a very good reason to hate mojang.
@@eliescobis9922 Yeah, absolutely. You can still utter "pokemon" without their lawyers wanting to devour you alive. Mojang goes above and beyond, huh?
Being a Minecraft tutorial creator this is terrifying, 3 strikes at once and everything is over...
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There should be a cooldown timer of about one month after each strike can be placed, and even so RUclipsrs SHOULD be able to combat them, defend themselves and their entire career. Not have it completely gone because of this corporate abuse.
@@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 makes a lot of sense
you can appeal the strikes i mean they dont just kick you off, can you come back after a year
In my opinion, if a company abuses the copyright strike system, they should lose their ability to give copyright strikes in the first place.
I could not agree More.
Then we get into a moral issue of the boy who cried wolf. Still, it's required no matter who it is to allow copyright claims against others since it's an already established protected asset. Because if people or companies lose their ability to make copyright claims, then there would be no restriction on people using the material that is protected by copyright. Take Nintendo for example, a notorious example yes, but if they suddenly couldn't protect their copyright then who's to stop bad actors who get access to unreleased content and put up video of it on youtube? Like if someone recorded the mario movie in theaters on their phone and put it up on youtube while it was still in theaters? Nintendo would have no immediate recourse to stop that
@@Skellitor301_VA "Take Nintendo for example, a notorious example yes, but if they suddenly couldn't protect their copyright then who's to stop bad actors who get access to unreleased content and put up video of it on youtube? Like if someone recorded the mario movie in theaters on their phone and put it up on youtube while it was still in theaters? Nintendo would have no immediate recourse to stop that"
Well, that's what they get when they abuse the Copyright System to take down content creators that followed every rule in YT's rulebook .
@@oriongear2499 Sorry but no, that's very much illegal as it goes against the DMCA. That can allow bad actors like movie pirates to start posting theater recordings onto RUclips if that happened along with other things that goes against the DMCA. Just because someone believes that because it sucks to deal with the recourse should be taking away a legally protected right? That's not a solution, that just causes more problems and cause so much financial damage to not just the copyright holder but to RUclips and the channels involved. If the damages are high enough, those people go to federal prison, and being a convicted felon is not worth this sticking it to the man ideal.
No, there already are recourses in place, the main reason why we dont see those recourses be enacted on these companies is because the people who get copyright strikes do not pursue legal action and prove that they were using fair use. RUclips cannot get in the middle of that or they will lose their protections to operate as a third party. It's up to the channel to prove that the company has violated fair use, and then the recourses can be implemented. But no, people more often than not are scared to lose their channel and don't see the immediate benefit of doing counter-claims. So It's not RUclips that's doing this, it's the people who don't exercise their legal right to defend themselves.
@@Skellitor301_VAa middle ground could be RUclips has someone review each strike before it goes through but that has it’s own problems. Like hiring someone which costs RUclips money they don’t need to spend.
"Mojang, we love you, but please do better" *_your video was taken down for saying mojang and building our logo_*
so dystopian! literally 2024
Jumping the gun this quick on such a new software is very reckless of mojang.
Could get them in a lot of trouble, false DMCA is no joke.
That’s Microsoft doing it, why would the strikes come from “Microsoft Corporation”?
@@xanderplayz3446 because Microsoft owns Mojang and all Mojang legal stuff is under Microsoft
@@xanderplayz3446 It's Weird In How It Works.
I hope they'll get stopped soon. This seems horrible. It's Nintendo-core behaviour, except it's literally in Minecraft where the whole appeal of the game is that everything is about player freedom. A bit dystopian
assuming just because the software is newly released doesn't mean it's jumping the gun and reckless. Newly released does not mean it was released with no prior testing or development. Even still, looking at how Tracer does their reviews, the responsibility for confirming copyright violations is 100% on the customer, not the AI. The AI is only being used to find potentially violating material using image and audio recognition, runs predetermined rule checks on the flagged stuff, and if it is considered violating it's reported to the customer for review. If the customer reports back saying it's violating their copyright, Tracer will submit it as an agent on behalf of them. So, no. Not an issue with the tool used for detection, still an issue of either Mojang or Microsoft getting antsy with the submit claim button.
You: Uploads this very, very informational video
Microsoft: I hate this video. Goodbye. *sends it off to the copyright dump*
Tracer AI seems quite against the community and RUclips TOS
The problem with companies' TOS is they tend to not enforce them whenever RICH PEOPLE are involved. Smells fishy.
Leads me to suspect that YT gets money from copyright claims and so they don't want to kill the golden calf.
It's not, I looked into the RUclips TOS and how Tracer AI works. Tracer AI is only a detection and reporting system that reports potential material to the customer that holds the copyright, and if the customer says it does, Tracer will act as an agent on behalf of them and submit the copyright notice to RUclips. RUclips has a system in place for agents to frequently submit claims, so that is not against the TOS. Using image and audio recognition AI and algorithms to determine if what the AI found is potentially legit, and then manually reviewed by the customer, is also not against the RUclips TOS.
youtube seriously needs a punishment system for copyright abuse. they should also help victims of copy strike abuse pursue legal action against the perpetrators, because it's illegal to abuse dmca takedown systems.
@@Genielamp25 They do have a punishment system for copyright abuse. However, RUclips cannot participate or help pursue abuse with legal action or they will lose their status as a non-biased party. Look into their copyright system and how that stuff is processed, the things you are demanding are already there. The only thing that they cannot get involved with are legal battles on behalf of any claims or abuse.
This proves that AI should NEVER be used commercially
No it doesn't. The AI isn't even making the claims, it only detects potential violations for Tracers clients and the client reviews what the AI finds. From then on the AI is out of the picture. Even still, AI has uses commercially outside of detection, but also corrections like with Steve Moulds video on life sized Poppop boats where he used it to fix the audio so you can hear his voice while next to a loud poppop boat. Not to mention for artists and VA's you can set up licensing deals for art styles and voice lines to be used as data, and the artists in the end get a cut for the use of that data in licensing payments. There's tons of ways AI can be commercialized and be made to be profitable for many people, not to mention all the good it can do. Remember, AI is just a tool, the person using it can use it for good or bad just like any other tool or weapon.
not wihout human oversight you mean. ai itself just needs to be keep in check with humans keeping it in line and to tell it what and how it sould contier how to apply itself. also put some bulit in deadmen siwtchs to turn it off or override it for debuging issues if it starts maeking to many mistakes.
This statement is a lot more than you think. Commercially includes anything that may have monetary purposes, including checking for errors in codes, adjustments in graphics or even search for treatment for diseases.
@@samuelseiichiinoue7791 I'm pretty sure when they say "AI", they just mean this narrow recently-hyped subset of AI.
I myself have had a video taken down. It was back in 2021, a tutorial of how to install the Minecraft Plus screensaver they put out for april fools that year. Got a community guidelines strike from that. Took a solid 3 weeks of going back and fourth with youtube support, I finally managed to get it back.
I hate how stuff like this happens so much now, Just so incredibly frustrating.
what?! mojang took that down? i never knew they were so aggressive. that's horribke 😭
This happened to my minecraft vid on my old account I was building a modern town on minecraft no mods no hacks no music mojang copyrighted it
Copyright is in such a stupid state right now. Companies should not be able to control what users record about their product in any way. It is authoritarian to be able to dictate the acceptable opinions and discussions of a product.
The only reason we don't have fair copyright legislation in America is because Republicans in the senate would filibuster such legislation.
yup and it will remain that way for the foreseeable future
capitalism protects wealthy entities from being held accountable for their greediness
The Way Copyright Is Determine Is Dumb. I Remember Watching Many Minecraft Videos Made By Stampy And DanTDM When I Was Little And Liking Them. It Almost Sounds Fake That Minecraft Wants To Do Stuff Against Minecraft RUclipsrs And Others.
@@LetsHaveFunJeremiah_LHFJRandom
Well you can say bye bye to these videos
mojang hates their own fans after all
Last sentence is not true. It really depends on how its implemented as it can be a real slippery slope, Yet its not impossible.
Copyright law is so broken, the fact that mojang technically has the right to take down most of these examples is insane. Support organizations like the electronic frontier foundation that are trying to change copyright law!
maybe they don't have that right. Maybe YT just does what it wants. None of this stuff we see going on is following the letter of the law. People get strikes for copyright on their own created content.
Nintendo: Are You Challenging Me?
nintendo would sue mojang for use of pixels since they have these patented :D
Mojang is nintendo
No its not...pokemon videos most specifically tutorials aren't being taken down...and also...Nintendo won't kill you for saying the word pokemon...we all know mojang is shit...more shit than Nintendo actually...
@@eliescobis9922yep :D
@@VividTheRainwingfr
this incident should be proof that AI is NOT fit for legal service and copyright detection. seriously, companies should be patient and wait till the AI is more developed rather than jumping straight into it and letting it do a bunch of things that shouldn't even happen
maaaan, mojang is becoming Nintendo, can't have shit in detroit
first it was the jenny mod, now this?! Absolutely unforgivable, 0/10 for microsoft, give us mojang back!
To be honest, Mojang deleting the Jenny mod was actually a very good decision for Minecraft. If you disagree, you are either an another teenager with p*rn addiction or you are a very lonely young adult who needs to socialize with a woman face to face more often.
They banned guns.
@@nicefloweytheoverseer7632which sucks
Agreed so much
Can't have shit with mojang becoming nitendo 1.2
@@chrisk6637 I'm not worried about that.
Copyright law is so utterly broken beyond measure
Agreed!
Mojang needs to fuck off with their abuse or else get sued by the fans or risk losing the player base
because it should fundamentally not exist
@@berndlauert8179Finally I found someone who shares my opinion
@@berndlauert8179 i kinda think it should be a thing
But actually monitored by a person with logical reasoning and understanding
But we cant have that now can we :c
But to let ai use it
Is such a bad thing fr
Especially with how new this one is (im just gonna assume with how trigger happy the ai and people behind the ai are like crypto bros of some kind and just striking anything idk i think thats funny in different way)
Nah it isn’t Mojang but Microsoft, PhoenixSC made a video exposing the videos that got taken down and they were all claimed by Microsoft rather than Mojang
PhoenixSC : Microsoft is taking down Minecraft videos on hacked clients ....
Mojang is owned by Microsoft, and as such their copyright can be handled either by Mojang or Microsoft
@@niaford690 I actually found most or all of it is actually Microsoft claiming them copyrights
@@peterbruck3845 I must've replied to the wrong comment since it seems we're on the same side of this topic, even if worded quite differently lol
Microshit ruined mojang
"Accident" Mojang is just getting ready to make the game subscriber based like they've been wanting to for years.
Mojang has been turning against their community for years now, they're just like every other corporation now. Whats even more frustrating is that these seem to be particularly focused on stamping out criticism, I recently saw a video get taken down that was literally ranking Minecraft music (but of course put the oldies at the top), but upon searching it up to see if it had been reuploaded, other videos on the same topic which were a lot more generous to the modern development were just fine. They're known for now taking down videos on various clients, and general Minecraft criticism seems to be getting squashed, anything they don't like is now getting removed. I don't know why people still defend this company, they're not the same as the one we knew and loved and which cherished its community first and foremost.
Mojang hasn't cared about their community for years.. they only care about deepening their pockets, they only change things for the better after the community turns against them completely.
Fools! They can't delete my Minecraft videos, because I never uploaded them in the first place!
I'm just built different
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For real. RUclips should be about freedom of speech. I can slightly comprehend political videos being taken down, dislikes being removed, and algorithm being manipulated time and time again for their stupid oh-so-important branding. But taking down Minecraft videos in mass, automatically, allowing bots to wreck havoc of everything we, the community have built, offering ZERO support, no wiggle room, completely destroying multiple entire RUclipsrs' careers over 3 falsely claimed videos?
Are u Amir?
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Remember this is not Mojang but Microsoft making these decisions
But apparently they falsely claimed and took down lots of videos even before Microsoft owned them... right?
Yes and no. Some of this went back 12 years, so that's a little before the buyout (2014 buyout) and would be on Mojang. Most of it is absolutely M$ though. Most likely whatever idiot started it in Mojang kept their position and is now running amok with M$'s blessing.
We can't just keep deflecting the blame to Micro$oft forever though, at some point we have to accept that Mojang itself has had a drastic change in culture and is no longer the same company that we all knew and loved from the golden age. Is Micro$oft to blame for a much of this? Yeah, sure. But Mojang isn't purely innocent either, and the way they've treated the community can't be ignored.
Brother acting like the talentless hacks who only know how to skid paste are free of blame lmfao
Fans of LITERALY every Hasbro IP: "First time?"
And Nintendo
This is not okay for Mojang to be doing, I got genuinely mad watching this.
filing false DMCA claims is a serious crime. Microsoft should get in a LOT of trouble for this, but since they are rich, the law does not apply apparently
Fuck that
No. Stopping you right there. There's no "On accident" when it comes to copyright strikes. They are willfully destroying their community for whatever stupid reason, but it's not "oopsie".
This is facts
what about the faulty ai?
@PaggleWaggIe faulty ai has nothing to do with it as everything the ai processes as copyright strike is sent to a real person very quickly and reviewed by a real person
@@Angeldust_fan_acc oh okay, i see now! but can you rule out a human error? maybe there are lazy/misunderstood reviews of videos? but obvs not an excuse for them if that's the case
@@Angeldust_fan_acc this is simply, 100%, completely not true. There's no downside to just letting bots report content and all upsides - anything it reports you get money from.
there's absolutely no consequences to lying about owning copyright.
Big corporations do what big corporations usually do.
We shouldn't just sit and watch, right? As a community we should do something to show Moyang what people are not happy about thier copyright decisions. We can't just bother poor devs on twitter or something, then what can we do? Spreading the massage is an option but I am not sure if it is enough or not.
I am genuinely asking.
Yeah, class action lawsuits should become better accessible to people, internationally even. People should be allowed to fight back abuse. Yes, even for Minecraft. It's not just about Minecraft, it's beyond that. It's just about everything. Abuse is real and it affects all of us in the worst of ways. Personally I've had enough. I'm sure A LOT of people have had enough too. If only we knew how to fight back, together, fighting for a common cause, we'd show these clowns what it means to try and destroy people's entire careers and lives like this. Not just voicing our opinions to a wall, but having a say in all this.
everyone complaining about copyright laws, and it's actually YT, and large companies just doing what they want using some half-baked copyright infringement nonsense. These are legal decisions being made with YT acting as a prosecutor and judge, it seems. I know people with copyright strikes on their own created content ffs. "This other party states it is their painting..."
There has for the longest of time existed a little Lua game engine called Minetest. Rebranded recently to Luanti.
Java Minecraft. That being pre RTX/Combat update/Elytra/bad peformance/Bedrock M$ edition. I mean... I even prefer Minecraft before the 1.0 update. Enchanting with XP tools. Well. It turned the little Indi-game, from being that innocent fun block game. But the best of all? FTB/Modpacks. That was what made Minecraft fun again. Actual good updates. If so user created.
Microsoft forced us to Mojang Account Migration. That says it all. And here we are. Microsoft Recall is using AI like this? Who would have guessed. Minecraft Store and everything imaginable.
I wounder what happened with that Hypixle standalone game. It is like how EA is going to very soon be completely overtaken by far better The Sims games. Competition alone could have forced Mojang to have to behave. EA did stopped even trying to make a The Sims 5 with the competition showing up. If only the block game could also have that happen. Terraria aside.
Instead, we might be lucky if enough people and so players... Moves over and make something far better then Minecraft has ever been for the last 10years. We are getting old. 2014 Minecraft. FTB Ultimate, was released on Minecraft 1.4.7 in 2014. There are so many grate modpacks and user created mods like Creative or whatever. But I really thing 2014-16 was the peak of Mc.
The minecraft we knew? It was turned into a mobile-phone game. Called bedrock edition. Microsoft edition. The endlessly broken and unfix able edition of badly performing c++ code.
@@TheDiner50 yep, they cater to their biggest market, people on crap devices for gaming. That is why Java is so important. The updates wear off very quickly, and the modding allows us to take the vanilla game to whatever play level we desire. For the record and to have an opinion based on experience, I bought 12 add ons in the Marketplace. Poorly executed copies, at best. I can't get near what I have on Jave, and 20 more add ons isn't going to fix it.
Man, companies really hate free advertising don’t they.
No, they'll happily take all the free advertisting, AND ruin the very people that gave them all that! It's becoming a way too common pattern lately.
you cant see them blatantly intentionally doing this over and over fully on purpose and then go "..i dont think its intentional. accidents happen. but this has happened too much..but accidents happen..have a good day." bruh
Class action y'all get a lawyer and take it to Mojang. If they are so concerned about this they should EMPLOY PEOPLE to do this. Make sure they know that they are NOT able to destroy the income of others on the whim of a robot.
Falsely claiming videos should prevent a company from claiming again for a while. Repeatedly false claiming should void their rights to copyright.
Mojang didn't delete my videos, they deleted my soul, I live and breath Minecraft.
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Same brother, same
so real
Then just play legit? Minecraft isn't hard 😂😂😂
@@coreymatthews5785 what.? 😭
we should make a petition to have the copyright system changed, gaming videos should be fair use
Mojang is prob gonna get some massive lawsuits.
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No they won't. They've been abusing their copyright for years and no one told them anything.
@@андрей_свиридов until they do
Streisand effect is real, and if there is even a slight chance that content farms videos about MC can get nuked they will stop making minecraft videos
mojang will lose money and they lose money FAST
they have infinite money i doubt they care
I'm surprise this video won't be remove because they don't like once they see it.
mojang is one of the many companies that turned on their own fanbase for no reason whatsoever
like with godot like with unity like with many other companies that just decide that they do not want to make money anymore XDDDDD
No it's just that they hate us and want us disappeared and silenced, but of course they LOVEEEE all the publicity they got from us and all our videos, and are looking forward for even more ways to extort us of our money, pride, and RIGHTS!
I stopped using unity and godot for this very reason
Something sorta similar happened to my channel some years back. I used to upload tutorials on how to download things like Forge and Fabric mod loader, that sort of thing. Every one of them got demonetized for something along the lines of "Hacking and exploits" even though I never mentioned either of those things (I'm personally VERY against them). Last year I was able to remonetize a lot of them, but the damage was done.
I pulled all my vids a few years back when they began to demonatize them. YT still put ads on the page, and I thought, nope. Apparently my cooking in the outdoors with big scary knives was too much. It's just too easy for any moron to click Report. And more easy for YT to just go with it.
That reminds me of a thing that happened to me over two years ago, to my second or third video in Minecraft Java. In the video I just have the in-game sound overlayed with my mic and one day I suddenly got a copyright claim from JASRAC_CS for using "Wet hands" by C418 in the video (according to my research that is a Japanese copyright company, no clue why they were claiming stuff on my German channel about a Swedish game). I appealed and after three seconds I got an email that the appeal had been reviewed manually and after careful consideration been refused. And mind you, that was in august 2022, quite a while before AI started to take off.
This! I think youtube allows copyright claim abuse as they get paid
2 weeks ago PhoenixSC : Microsoft is taking down Minecraft videos on hacked clients
Modified clients are not illegal. Whether they are against EULA depends on what EULA you are subject to. If you purchased the game before May 24, 2011, you're not subject to revision to the contract so these changes do not apply to you. Those of you who are subject to revision are still entitled to legal notice of EULA update AND entitled to an opportunity to accept or reject the terms, which will change your rights. Mojang assumes it can apply EULA to everyone but it can't because not everyone is a customer and Mojang has to tread carefully with fair use.
This just sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. I get they need to protect their IP, but outsourcing it to some asset protection company is not the way to go. If it's that big of a deal, then Mojang should set up their own department and sort the issue out in house with people who do know what they're doing. After all, it's not like Mojang are exactly short of funds being owned by Minecraft. I just hope they remember that while protecting their IP is important, the community is even more important - what's the point of protecting the IP of a game that no-one is playing (Not that I think any of this would cause everyone to stop playing, MC is too big for that. But just speaking hypothetically anyway.)
Hopefully RUclips pays attention -- falsely making claims should get the claimant's ability to make new claims revoked.
Mojang is OWNED by Microsoft since 2014. Mojang creates content for “that game” that is no longer theirs.( I’m not mentioning the name on purpose in my comment-you’re welcome) Microsoft is the greedy reckless company who must be doing this. Thanks for your video- people should know- and Microsoft should be held accountable for the loss of livelihood. Keep up the great work! Subscribed!
Indie Mojang would never have done this without Microsoft steering the ship. Fuck everything about internet copyright laws.
I've got copyrighted for a song I did not played in one of my streams. I was just creating a bass line and boom, RUclips copyrighted me. Of course I'm not responding to that bs copyright claim. Seems like even RUclips is broken, rather than just the tracer AI. Let me know if anyone got some false copyright claims.
A TOS violation is NOT a Copyright violation. Using the DMCA take down system to punish for TOS violations is ILLEGAL (as in, a violation of federal copyright law).
Yep
imagine this video also being taken down by mojang.
This is very stupid on their part, considering that Hytale is right around the corner. Stuff like this just might push people to try their soon to be competition.
We really do have to start blocking corporations from doing this crap but we won't because "they should be allowed to own content about their game" and really you just deserve no respect at that point
Spread the heck out of this video before IT gets taken down too!
This needs to be taken to court. This is getti g ridiculous
i entirely disagree with how brutal mojang are being, but to maintain keeping their copyrights they are obligated to send out DMCAs against any infringing content.
They're just casting too wide of a net and purposefully taking down content they don't like!
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The issue with the "Hacked Client" videos is that to some it would imply "a free installation of Minecraft", which is simply just an issue of people getting the difference between "hacked" and "cracked" confused
Honestly I find the term "hacked client" odd. The days when players were doing real hacks is long gone. Its almost entirely just cheats and exploits.
In the EU the AI use for RUclips strikes is not allowed, same goes to using AI in banneble stuff. It has to be fully checked by humans to be legitimate.
We might knew what the next "The Fall of %place_holder%" title soon.
oh!!!!!! that's not good!
Honestly, most of these incidents are so different and isolated that they really do seem like weird mistakes. You gotta remember that this video talks about say, 5 incidents that happened over the span of years, it seems like something that doesn't happen often. Most of these people were able to recover their videos anyway and the long wait process is way more of a youtube issue than a Mojang issue. Most of the hacked client stuff doesn't make any sense though, but that was a terrible AI. I definitely feel like they just need to spruce up their copyright detection system a bit. They aren't blameless but I just want you to know that this is not as big of a deal as the video makes it out to be and this definitely could be a systematic issue rather than done out of pure mal intent.
@PhonyLyzard There's more cases than this, these are just some of the strongest ones. There was also a controversy over a Minecraft partner, CompyCraft, that was copyright striking videos that criticized their works from the Minecraft Marketplace, and there was a *big* controversy over Mojang's censorship of videos discussing their development builds.
Largely though, the problem is less that they *are* falsely detecting copyright, and more how they handle it.
You don't *have* to strike videos that infringe on your copyright - you can choose to monetize them for yourself, or to warn them, or to just take the video down without a strike. You have to explicitly choose that you *want* to strike the video, causing the creator to be at risk and making it impossible for them to upload for a week.
Then, there's filing strikes under the wrong category specifically to make them impossible to appeal (which was seemingly done in the case of Rays Works and PiiikaJ), which is scummy at best.
And finally, there's the fact that Mojang initially had absolutely no way to contact them about these false strikes. The only contact given was one from Tracer.AI, and there wasn't a single response to emails sent there until large RUclipsrs covered this situation and Mojang got large-scale community backlash.
@@mcbyt Yeah, fair. This is a problem. But I still believe that these cases in the video were quite minor and if this is the worst case scenario then I can't imagine anything less being that big of a deal. These are definitely a hassle for the creators, but it still seems like more of a RUclips issue to me.
The lack of a way to contact them is implied to be a fixed issue in your reply, but I don't think that was around when you were making this video so it's a fair complaint. I also feel the issue with CompyCraft has been solved, granted, I don't really know what you're talking about, but there are plenty of videos up complaining about the marketplace left that haven't been striked so I think it's fine now.
They definitely need to improve their system for this sort of thing but I still am not sure if this is really as big a deal as you make it out to be. I mean, no one ever talks about all the fair copyright strikes and takedowns. What about those. As another comment has said "What's an acceptable failure rate?"
I am glad you made this video since criticism towards this is always good. I just think the thumbnail and title makes this situation look like a bigger deal than it is. It seems like most Minecraft content will be left unaffected and that, judging by some other comments and my own viewer experience, a lot of these issues have been fixed.
@@PhonyLyzardMan, you're really kissing the big tech's boots on this one. Looking straight at the evidence of abuse and still refusing to see it. "It's not a big deal", yeah no sure, all the mass censorship, mass control, and it being this easy to ruin entire people's career over Minecraft videos, "I'm sure this is not a big deal". When is the last time that any big corporation corrected their wrongdoings on their own?
@@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 I guess you're right. I didn't really see it as not an issue though, I moreso saw it as not as big of an issue as this video made it seem. These examples are spread over the course of years, and if they make a couple mistakes over the course of several years that's a pretty good track record. If we're talking about the lates issues with people using hacked clients and stuff, that's just paranoia. I don't know why the take down those.
Also Mojang isn't a tech company. They're a videogame developer.
Most Minecraft videos totally violate copyright. WTF this is not even a question only a child would think this is what fair use covers. Reality is that all this stuff is not legal and therefore at the mercy of the copyright owning corporations.
So a conclusion early in this video is that MS has the right to strike channels and videos that feature subjects about hacked clients. But that is not the case. The only reason why one can strike a video under DMCA is for copyright infringement. Featuring the subject of hacked clients is no copyright infringement by any means. If YT decided to take action against a video/channel in regards to their TOS being violated for talking about these subjects, that is their choice. Microsoft is technically committing an act of perjury by taking these videos down.
This is something that need to be understood about the proper use of DMCA takedowns. The only reason afaik that one can take down a video because of DMCA is if it violates copyright. Thats it.
I think its justifiable for any company, including Mojang, to take down hacked clients for Java or Bedrock. If its just a client that does nothing that affects gameplay to other players than it should stay. Using AI or hiring someone that doesn't know what they're doing to copyright strike people's videos for doing nothing harmful to the game or its company isn't good.
A video showing how to navigate support should never be striked for copyright. That's just absurd.
Is a terms of service violation alone really a copyright matter though? Seems like, even if the vid were regarding an exploit, it'd be a lazy and abusive thing to go after the vid using the DMCA.
Update, Now Microsoft and Mojang They are trying to remove the SkyBlock trademark from Noobcrew because that would mean losing money on Minecraft Bedrock.
Using DMCAs to take down ToS violations for Minecraft is not legal.
Exactly
if they dmca remove this video i would be supper pissed as it talks about how and why this dmca removal of perfectly good innocent videos getting taken down for nothing.
6:33 did someone summon my name name?
the chosen one...
Just think about the seriousness of what is happening here.
If posting their website link is a copyright violation, then using any of their URL's is also a copyright violation.
They could start legal cases against anyone who visits any of their websites for copyright violations.
I am shocked that Tracer, Mojang, and Microsoft haven't been sued over this yet. They have caused serious damage by their actions!
Even Google and RUclips should have been sued over this for the way they are handling all of this. Just their improper investigations at these allegations are more than enough cause for a lawsuit!
I am also shocked that this information isn't more public.
I wonder if MC will continue receiving all the support that it currently gets once people discover just how dangerous it can be to talk about it.
A single copyright violation could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars or more. I, myself can't afford to pay that much just to write out a URL to visit a website and I don't know anyone else that can, do you?
The new TOS is a fiasco. Remember when it was just "you own the game?" Good times... Its amazing how forcing new crappy TOS's after purchase is even legal
The point of a system is what it does. This is a common phrase in programming and it applies here. They need to fix it because if they don’t we can only say they believe it’s working as intended. Love Mojang and Minecraft, but they need to reevaluate how they protect their community from themseves.
I think this isnt mojang work.i know what company...
"Microsoft"
I mean since minecraft has been sold to microsoft,minecraft have never been the same
one of the claims went back to 2012, 2 years before microsoft bought them. and even if microsoft is to blame they own mojang so its still mojang
that sounds like a class action suit maybe.
This has now made me aware my own videos were getting private... I don't make that kind of content. Literally the ones made private were some let's play videos, an animated music video That I made, and me just goofing around in Minecraft.
I'm against copyright, especially when it's made by AI, but hackers and cheaters must suffer. The other ones being striked - that's a problem.
This is unlikely this will happen, but I'm hoping that RUclips does something about Tracer AI.
DMCA Can not be used to enforce TOS , Its for enforcing Intellectual property , So yes , they can DMCA the hacked clients , But showing exploits or exploiting in videos can not have them DMCA , Its an abuse of the law.
Companies using TracerAI = Going autopilot without checking where’s the plane is going
20 IQ approach: yap about AI
200 IQ approach: abolish youtube for allowing these takedowns in the first place and go Odysee.
It's something that they need to fix. This has been off and on for 12 years or more, they should know by now not to do this stuff. If it was actually about hacking ruining people's experiences, I'd be more understanding, but they took down way more and for no good reason.
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companies are not your friends.
will this become a true [deleted] moment?
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This happened to a lot of us, but I noticed they began to rescind/remove a lot of claims thankfully, I imagine they noticed there was a problem. Beat me to making a video on it, thanks for covering!
Yeah, fortunately claims have started to be reverted from this recent wave. It's not finished yet (last I heard from itsme64 he only had 1 of the 2 strikes removed, and I've heard a few other people that got struck multiple times are having the same problem) but most of them have been removed which is really good to see
@@mcbyt I think the important thing is to appeal them and cite the Terms of Use and Laws, but ultimately its up to them to release it since unfortunately RUclips never interject in copyright appeals so they can protect themselves so its always up to the claimant.
I mean, We live in a techno corpo dystopia. But censorship AI's erasing anything not favorable for mega corporations off the internet is vile.
Going after the community over frivolous and often incorrect reasons is essentially a company biting the hands that feed it.
I long sence got bord of minecraft Im an alpha player I remember the days of one biome one tree type and no npc villages were a thing. Over the resent years I have been growing distain for mojang with how they are handling minecraft to the point it has now turned to hate and this has only made it worse. That said thank you for covering this as some one needs to shed a light on this stuff.
This is becoming an epidemic, not just from Mojang or even Microsoft, but ACROSS THE BOARD. Companies realized that RUclips’s copyright system was rife for abuse, so they ALL hopped on the bandwagon. Many people who were doing fair use parodies and fair use reviews are getting stuck as well.
It’s about high time that content creators band together and file a class action suit and take not only these companies but Google themselves to task. If people hit them where it hurts (aka the same place these companies struck them [right in the ol’ pocketbook]) then maybe they’d start paying attention and make sure their claims are actually legit.
Did you know it’s actually illegal to abuse the copyright system as such? Like actually criminally illegal. If these companies get their way there will not be any such thing as artistic expression because even painters will be like “well am I allowed to draw this art on RUclips or will the company, who’s paint I purchased and used, file a dmca takedown claiming I stole their intellectual property since I showed their paint on a canvas? I mean, it’s not like I showed their tube…”.
It is legitimately disgusting how they feel they can just up and walk over enterprising young entrepreneurs because “screw you I’m a big company.” Sorry to rant but many of my favorite content creators are leaving RUclips in droves over these issues, and before long my disabled behind will wither away and die from sheer boredom. Keep up the good work spreading this message. We need to spread this issue as far and wide as we can so we can fix it before it’s way too late.
This isn't a rant, its a speech, a call to action!
We are Suffering A RUclips Copyright Strike Crisis
This will make youtube hq go broken because there will be surely massive riots over there
*crisis
@@TheCyberKid707 thanks for correcting the comment
It feels like 2024 is the year in which all better known companies completely lose their minds just to screw their users and/or to have some weird self-destructive power trip...
Just to find out, that it has been going on for far longer and its now just getting to the surfacing.
Tracer AI is a good example of how companies will protect themselves of any criticism. We're cooked.
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This is Microsoft fault.
That's why people are moving to Luanti (Minetest)
This needs to get more attention especially from OG/Big Minecraft youtubers
I think it would be amazing if someone made a program or a bot that constantly reports Mojang's RUclips account for copyright on every single video, 6 times a day from places all over the world just to get their RUclips account shut down permanently, I think that would be funny
Using AI to DMCA strike videos with a lot of false positives is wild.
"All of these strikes are coming from Mojang"
Um...can you not read? It clearly says Microsoft.
This better not happen to me. If it does, the entirety of Microsoft will be completely destroyed.
Just as bad as tumblr’s NSFW ban, but across the web.
I hate the baby with the keyboard at tracer HQ
me too fr give that boy a baba and get him out of here
This feels like a nintendo situation.
We should rename this Tracer company to Northamerican Kopyright Video Department (NKVD)
Can't wait till this gets a copyright striked for using sweden.
If this video gets taken down....
RUclips wouldn't let this be happening because those RUclipsrs are making RUclips money, and RUclips is money thirsty.
But in the end it's who makes youtube the most money faster as copyright strike take down makes them money
Thing is AI is good at spotting things but not discerning, so if I were Mojang, I would keep AI however have an actual human to verify the AI, otherwise this will become to a point of a blemish on their records. I not saying this to point fingers, but rather a real possibility of them getting law suites from other companies out there