Just bought my new 2024 VB WRX yesterday! Still in the break in period, but this is VERY helpful information. I can’t wait until I can start modifying and tuning. Thank you!
But what’s weird to me is the vb is much better stock to stock than my other 3 WRX’s. My vb drives stock better than my tuned older generations as far as power delivery, linear delivery, handling, etc.
@@JasonNicholson-y1oall true but it’s because the VB gains a substantial amount of power with a tune, other wrx generations did not. I had a VA wrx with a tune and it gained very little power.
@ yeah i understand the hate lol it's clearly a better car i think people just like to complain. And most people that do don't even own or ever owned a wrx.
@@dewjustin but what I’m saying is he has pretty much said he’s disappointed in this car (until now) and has been talking about building a VA. My point is the VB is all around a better starting platform regardless. Stock versus stock OR tuned versus tuned.
I’m just over 12k and about to make the jump. Ordering an intake prob as early as tonight and then waiting to see if accessport can get a little drop in price coming up for Black Friday
Let’s not forget the other side of the conversation. Once your accessport tune is installed, the name of the accessport changes to anxietyport. Guys with tunes talk about how gingerly they drive their cars and how often they change fluids because they’re scared of the consequences of experiencing some kind of failure. I’d rather keep my VB stock, drive it like I stole it, change the fluids using the recommended maintenance intervals, and still have a warranty. Going a 1/2 or a 1/4 second faster here and there isn’t worth the hassle, mental stress, and added costs that come with tunning the car.
I have had my WRX for about 6 months. I tuned about a month after getting it. If you are having second thoughts about tuning don’t it was the best money I have spent. I will say once you get it tuned it’s really hard to stop with the power mods. I have added a MAP Jpipe/midpipe remark cat back, Perrin intake and turbo inlet, a mishimoto front mount intercooler, GFB diverter valve, Mishimoto oil cooler, and Mishimoto catch can. I have tuned a couple of times since then after adding different parts. Get a tune it makes the car sooooo much more enjoyable to drive.
Very convincing! I remember in your previous videos you were not considering keeping the car for long. It's great to know that tuning has changed your mind. How many miles did you have approx before you tuned?
@AutoEnthusiast i don't think it would have killed it. My MPG is better with protune... I think it opened the door for legacy and outback turbo possibly
@@AutoEnthusiast As a Subaru Technician at a dealership who has to deal with SoA and SNE this is 100% accurate. Subaru/SOA’s biggest enemy is SoA followed by regulation changes. They do things that make sense, and yet they don’t too.
You have to decide if you care more about your warranty or more about power BEFORE you install this. Subaru will 100% deny your claims if its software is modified...
I want to do a relatively moderate tune (325-350 hp/tq) but worried about transmission/engine issues coming up even if they arent FROM the tune but not having warranty😊
Hi bro, as an engineer what's your take on the effect of tuning on the transmission and the mpg ? I have the AP and have purchased the e tune from Dmann but haven't started the tuning process yet, I'll start soon.. car has completely stock internals not even a custom intake.. I'm going with 93 octane e tune with stock intake but might add an axleback exhaust soon..
Thoughts on tuning a CVT/SPT VB? Currently on a stage 1 OTS map. Got the CVT for traffic commute, have had thoughts of selling and getting a 24 manual to start modding lol. But also looking at an integra type S and RS3.
If what you meant by stock is not wanting to retune for more power then you don't need one you could get one it will give you more driving info but none of that will matter but if you don't care about your warranty an want a much more exciting car to drive than a stock car with a retune tune or pro will be much more enjoyable
@@JoshDillon-lm3hw Stock meaning, I have not added any parts - stock everything - from my understanding that is what the stage 1 tune is targeting correct?
Great information! I’m debating whether to get a tune or not. Although I do have a CVT WRX so I’m not sure if it makes any sense for me to do so, considering that fact.
I want more power really bad, but, I’ll say it, I’m just scared something will go wrong and I’ll find myself in a “why the hell did I do this?! 😩” situation lol 😞
I have been e-tuned for about 15,000 miles with zero issues. It’s all about how you drive the car. I am e-tuned with Graham at Boosted performance and have zero regrets. I have Catback from Remark, ETS CAI, ETS charge pipe, Cobb pitch stop, JDM trans mount. Pushing around 370-380 whp and torque 😊. 20 lbs boost and rev limiter now 6500 rpm.
I’m tuned on a ots map 93 octane for now. I am highly considering a dmann tune to fit with my mishimoto intake. Only down side is the knock sensor is SOOO sensitive my dam drops sometimes. As far as the ots tune goes
@@The_Phant0m dam drops all the time on the ots tunes anything from filling up or temp changes I'd get dam drops had a dman tune 5 months an not 1 dam drop
@@AutoEnthusiastI’ve seen it as low as .125. But usually always goes back up. The ots tune seems to like when I drive and shift at around 4000 rpms. Which increases it back to one for me. Tbh, when I first got it I was monitoring it all the time. I just recently started to keep it out of sight. Sometimes I’ll hook it up just to see where I’m at. Nothing too alarming. I know the sensors are very sensitive. I also am aware that when it’s e tuned or custom tuned they adjust the threshold for the Dam. Either way, it’s still worth it for sure.
@@FriendToTheWorldstill see knock just not big or long enough events the car gets pissed enough about to dam drop an mine was left higher cause I never finalized my tune for him to lower the sensitivity
My question this week after watching engineering explained talk about his new gr Corolla is this: how much would it cost to mod vb wrx to not only make it beat a gr Corolla and a Honda Civic type r around a track, but also do it in a 24-hour race. Meaning the power would have to be as reliable or more so than the other two cars from the factory
I mean if we are talking tracks...AWD becomes the bigger factor until insane power is made. But it also depends on the track. With current pricing, the VB wins.
@AutoEnthusiast yes but the gr Corolla has all-wheel drive, and probably a better system at that. Although I don't know if that better system translates to better on a dry road course where it's only better on say a gravel or snow course.
^yeah I suppose I forgot to say that I would count that out for a 24 hour race because of the engine size and layout. Not that it will breakdown, it just won’t perform in the same way. I actually having a video coming out on it, but toyota holds far less factors of safety in general, and it’s part of the Kaizen mentality
@@AutoEnthusiast this was the answer I was looking for, so I find it hard to believe that people would spend an extra 7 to $10,000 on top of that (that's the premium over $40k that the modded vB would cost you) when they could do so much better bang for their buck. But I understand the mentality where people are worried about their warranty or the cachet of saying they get to drive you know the best hot hatch versus a plain old wrx
VB/FA24 is gimped from the factory. Protune makes a HUGE difference....I completely agree that the VB is a different car after tuning.
Are you tuned? And agreed!
Yes. Tuned for a little over a year.
Just bought my new 2024 VB WRX yesterday! Still in the break in period, but this is VERY helpful information. I can’t wait until I can start modifying and tuning. Thank you!
Bro everyone has been telling you this about the VB for awhile now lol love how your entire outlook on the car has changed.
But what’s weird to me is the vb is much better stock to stock than my other 3 WRX’s. My vb drives stock better than my tuned older generations as far as power delivery, linear delivery, handling, etc.
@@JasonNicholson-y1oall true but it’s because the VB gains a substantial amount of power with a tune, other wrx generations did not. I had a VA wrx with a tune and it gained very little power.
@ yeah i understand the hate lol it's clearly a better car i think people just like to complain. And most people that do don't even own or ever owned a wrx.
@@dewjustin but what I’m saying is he has pretty much said he’s disappointed in this car (until now) and has been talking about building a VA. My point is the VB is all around a better starting platform regardless. Stock versus stock OR tuned versus tuned.
I'm at 23k miles, I just have an exhaust. you are really making me rethink and not wait any longer :0
Similar boat but at 14k
Do ittttttttt. I'm at 11k tuned by Dmann. Never going back lol
yeah honestly it's just a different car...
I’m just over 12k and about to make the jump. Ordering an intake prob as early as tonight and then waiting to see if accessport can get a little drop in price coming up for Black Friday
Same here bro
Let’s not forget the other side of the conversation. Once your accessport tune is installed, the name of the accessport changes to anxietyport.
Guys with tunes talk about how gingerly they drive their cars and how often they change fluids because they’re scared of the consequences of experiencing some kind of failure.
I’d rather keep my VB stock, drive it like I stole it, change the fluids using the recommended maintenance intervals, and still have a warranty.
Going a 1/2 or a 1/4 second faster here and there isn’t worth the hassle, mental stress, and added costs that come with tunning the car.
I would say I am larger than a second shaved in a 0-60, which isn't insignificant. But you aren't wrong!
I have had my WRX for about 6 months. I tuned about a month after getting it. If you are having second thoughts about tuning don’t it was the best money I have spent. I will say once you get it tuned it’s really hard to stop with the power mods. I have added a MAP Jpipe/midpipe remark cat back, Perrin intake and turbo inlet, a mishimoto front mount intercooler, GFB diverter valve, Mishimoto oil cooler, and Mishimoto catch can. I have tuned a couple of times since then after adding different parts. Get a tune it makes the car sooooo much more enjoyable to drive.
Man - i can't WAIT to see what Cobb cooks up with the upcoming stage 2+ FlexFuel parts and tune!!!
Can we get some numbers?
-HP at the wheels
-MPG
-0-60?
Very convincing! I remember in your previous videos you were not considering keeping the car for long. It's great to know that tuning has changed your mind. How many miles did you have approx before you tuned?
Maybe 9k ish?
The VB wrx could have come off the lot with more power than a Civic type R and Golf R
I think Subaru could have sold it with 325 and not been pushing boundaries. But it would hurt their fleet gas consumption data
@AutoEnthusiast i don't think it would have killed it. My MPG is better with protune... I think it opened the door for legacy and outback turbo possibly
@@AutoEnthusiast this 1000%
@@AutoEnthusiast As a Subaru Technician at a dealership who has to deal with SoA and SNE this is 100% accurate. Subaru/SOA’s biggest enemy is SoA followed by regulation changes. They do things that make sense, and yet they don’t too.
Love it thanks for sharing!!!
Turn the camera around for a POV so we get a better idea of the acceleration
You have to decide if you care more about your warranty or more about power BEFORE you install this. Subaru will 100% deny your claims if its software is modified...
Yeah, but it's still grey to an extent.
Are you still using the same oil? Or have you changed to a heavier weight.
same oil!
I want to do a relatively moderate tune (325-350 hp/tq) but worried about transmission/engine issues coming up even if they arent FROM the tune but not having warranty😊
Those numbers are fairly achievable with very few reported issues!
Hi bro, as an engineer what's your take on the effect of tuning on the transmission and the mpg ? I have the AP and have purchased the e tune from Dmann but haven't started the tuning process yet, I'll start soon.. car has completely stock internals not even a custom intake.. I'm going with 93 octane e tune with stock intake but might add an axleback exhaust soon..
Thoughts on tuning a CVT/SPT VB? Currently on a stage 1 OTS map. Got the CVT for traffic commute, have had thoughts of selling and getting a 24 manual to start modding lol. But also looking at an integra type S and RS3.
might be a stupid question but does this still apply even if you are completely stock?
Great question!
If what you meant by stock is not wanting to retune for more power then you don't need one you could get one it will give you more driving info but none of that will matter but if you don't care about your warranty an want a much more exciting car to drive than a stock car with a retune tune or pro will be much more enjoyable
Yup! I basically am stock, an intake and exhaust barely count!
@@JoshDillon-lm3hw Stock meaning, I have not added any parts - stock everything - from my understanding that is what the stage 1 tune is targeting correct?
@ronaldsaavedra9300 yes that'd be the stage 1 on the accessport
Great information! I’m debating whether to get a tune or not. Although I do have a CVT WRX so I’m not sure if it makes any sense for me to do so, considering that fact.
I have my unmarried AP just sitting waiting to get installed….
Me too
I was pretty hardcore about my warranty staying intact. But it's been a year now and idk.. I think I'll end up having an accessport before 2025 haha.
I’m going to show this to my wife to support my argument for mods ha
Lol love it! We are going to need an update here…
@@alanhenley4029 Good luck with that!
Do you still feel this way about the spt version ?
I want more power really bad, but, I’ll say it, I’m just scared something will go wrong and I’ll find myself in a “why the hell did I do this?! 😩” situation lol 😞
Same here lol
I have been e-tuned for about 15,000 miles with zero issues. It’s all about how you drive the car. I am e-tuned with Graham at Boosted performance and have zero regrets. I have Catback from Remark, ETS CAI, ETS charge pipe, Cobb pitch stop, JDM trans mount. Pushing around 370-380 whp and torque 😊. 20 lbs boost and rev limiter now 6500 rpm.
I’m tuned on a ots map 93 octane for now. I am highly considering a dmann tune to fit with my mishimoto intake. Only down side is the knock sensor is SOOO sensitive my dam drops sometimes. As far as the ots tune goes
Go for the DMann tune! What does your dam drop to and how long is it down for?
@@The_Phant0m dam drops all the time on the ots tunes anything from filling up or temp changes I'd get dam drops had a dman tune 5 months an not 1 dam drop
@@JoshDillon-lm3hw That's because Dman reduced the sensitivity of your knock sensors, where Cobb OTS maps run OEM sensitivity
@@AutoEnthusiastI’ve seen it as low as .125. But usually always goes back up. The ots tune seems to like when I drive and shift at around 4000 rpms. Which increases it back to one for me. Tbh, when I first got it I was monitoring it all the time. I just recently started to keep it out of sight. Sometimes I’ll hook it up just to see where I’m at. Nothing too alarming. I know the sensors are very sensitive. I also am aware that when it’s e tuned or custom tuned they adjust the threshold for the Dam. Either way, it’s still worth it for sure.
@@FriendToTheWorldstill see knock just not big or long enough events the car gets pissed enough about to dam drop an mine was left higher cause I never finalized my tune for him to lower the sensitivity
Even for the CVT?
SMDH im trying to stay stock here homie
come to the dark side lol
My question this week after watching engineering explained talk about his new gr Corolla is this: how much would it cost to mod vb wrx to not only make it beat a gr Corolla and a Honda Civic type r around a track, but also do it in a 24-hour race. Meaning the power would have to be as reliable or more so than the other two cars from the factory
I mean if we are talking tracks...AWD becomes the bigger factor until insane power is made. But it also depends on the track. With current pricing, the VB wins.
@AutoEnthusiast yes but the gr Corolla has all-wheel drive, and probably a better system at that. Although I don't know if that better system translates to better on a dry road course where it's only better on say a gravel or snow course.
^yeah I suppose I forgot to say that I would count that out for a 24 hour race because of the engine size and layout. Not that it will breakdown, it just won’t perform in the same way. I actually having a video coming out on it, but toyota holds far less factors of safety in general, and it’s part of the Kaizen mentality
But also, with $10k, you can do a trans swap, intake, fmic, turboback, etc you will outperform both other rides
@@AutoEnthusiast this was the answer I was looking for, so I find it hard to believe that people would spend an extra 7 to $10,000 on top of that (that's the premium over $40k that the modded vB would cost you) when they could do so much better bang for their buck. But I understand the mentality where people are worried about their warranty or the cachet of saying they get to drive you know the best hot hatch versus a plain old wrx
What about the outback with the new fa turbo engine?
Yes their available
@kylancarpenter5589 you can tune the xt outback but you can't make as much power on them because of the cvt trans limits
I have the same hat! #coys