War of the Rohirrim Japanese Trailer BREAKDOWN
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- What about second breakdown? Just as I finished up my War of the Rohirrim breakdown, I discovered the Japanese trailer which has a LOT of different shots, so let’s check it out and see what additional analysis, lore, and theories we can come up with!
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The Japanese trailer made it look way better. Showed off more of the dynamic animation in the action shots which is mostly why I watch animated movies.
No bro, it was supposed to be about Helm, not some made up girl power story
Dominic Monaghan has gotten a really gravelly voice since his role as Merry. You can hear it in recent interviews. So him coming back to do an orc voice would make sense.
your channel fills the house with middle earth lore. I thank you good sir.
It's so interesting how different this one is! I hope that they'll release this one in English because it seems to feature the different characters a little more equally. I don't have a problem with them asking the question of what Hera was doing while this conflict was happening over someone asking for her hand, but as a female myself I'd actually rather see the characters, male and female, acting as a team instead of it all falling on one person because girl power, or no one else is competent enough to do the thing but her. Good people coming together as a team to defeat darkness is one of the big reasons I love Tolkien in the first place.
This one is substantially better than the English one imo. It's not spoiling too much and focuses on everyone involved.
While the English one gives the necessary background for the War, this one focuses more on what happens in the film overall, balancing characters involved through the whole thing.
I am not ashamed to say that this film has got me excited, but I am cautiously optimistic.
The shot where she looks like she's wearing short shorts with the wall in the background, those are riding leggings or boot tops. The drawing makes them too tight in the knee-because- it's anime, they do stuff like that. If that was meant to be flesh the color would match her hands and no line up the centre. The green and gold things are shin guards.
Eh, I’m not gonna be complaining about those tights 😳
It's not just anime pretty much a lot of general drawings tend to make clothing perfect to body that's why they look good but that's not always entirely on reality unless you made custom made outfit but she's royalty anyway so it's possible
That's why they should had her in a tunic with a belt like how they actually dressed. The shirts always covered the rear and even the chain mail was far enough down to cover the body. I hate the outfit, it doesn't fit with the world or style. Her other 2, perfectly fine. Anime got a little too carried away, this is the West not the East lol
I'm still cautiously optimistic but it doesn't look to bad. Some of these bits seems genuinely epic.
It does, looks like Vinland, and people only talk good about it because of hype and certainly not about quality
@@ryushogun9890 Vinland is pretty good tho
@@Lemmelleni Vinland is there for anyone who wants to watch it, that is not a problem but it represents a huge tsunami of money making western stuff with a makeup of Anime. I love nordic stuff, historically accurate.. just watch Northman by Robert Eggers or that uncanny quality movie of Beowulf! Beowulf kinda bad, but it's still kinda original n feels interesting while you get something like Vinland that gives u a shinobi-like running knife bearing nordic kid, with those dull sidecharacters, urgh..
Imo it's a nice looking compromise between "let's please the old Tolkien fans that hate almost everything, even the Jackson movies" and "let's try something new and ambitious for a change after 20 frickin years". I already like it just for that premise, I really can't with this RoP stuff and the Hack & Slash middle-earth games anymore. The subreddit about this movie is already filled with so much hate and negativity it's absolutely mindblowing, and I'm saying that as someone who hates RoP and most modern Middle-Earth games.
But this? Like, what's so horrible? It looks fun? Hell yeah, give me something original like this. Just see it as a fun artistic project of what an anime studio would do with the license.
@@ryushogun9890 touch grass or something stop writing essay on a yt commnt sectn
The animation looks like a mix between The Witcher: Nightmare of the Wolf and Castlevania. I’m excited!
'Hera had a tempest in her. No one in middle-earth had seen what she had seen' - JRR Tolkien
Trust Japan to leave some extra special features for their edition of the trailer (like bonus tracks on a Japanese release of a Western album) - this is so cool! I also wondered if a certain wizard neighbour would appear in Rohan and I’m glad they won’t disappoint; there are plenty of talented voice actors who could pay fitting tribute to Sir Christopher, too 😁 Well done and thank you for jumping on this, Matt!
i really hope they get corey burton to do the voice, since he voiced count dooku in the clone wars
@@nameredacted6897 ooo great idea
Same!
@@nameredacted6897best Dooku since Sir Christopher Lee. Let’s hope he can voice Saruman too.
With animation they even could just generate Christopher's voice given how much recording we have of it
I don’t know why they didn’t use this for the international version. It would have silenced all the people complaining about Helm not being in the trailer enough when compared to Hera. Who am I kidding people still would have complained.
Leftists cannot create, they can only corrupt and destroy.
What amazes me is, those events are just a blink, compared to all three Ages. There could be litterally hundreds of decent Middle Earth anime movies waiting to be made; without even the need to mess with any lore at all (ROP).
Crazy how much better the Japanese trailer is. I frankly feel a little insulted about the English version they gave us.
I personally wouldn't want any spoilers.
The Japanese are experts on marketing Anime to their own people.😁👍
@@Enerdhil Conversely, it seems as if the American marketers have no idea how to market to their own people (me)
@@imnotmark3053 i mean, any trailer is gonna spoil to some extent. a good trailer gets the audience excited. the japanese trailer gets me more excited than the english one
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I think you are right. I think deciding which clips to show can be very difficult to decide. Personally, I don't think they should have shown Helm punching Freca. That is the main reason many of us would have watched the movie. Now that I have seen it, I don't have to go.😂
"Captain Rohan??"
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Awesome Review Matt! I did the same exact thing. Finished the other trailer review and then was like "oh I guess I got a second one to do"! I think this Japanese trailer added a lot! I loved the see helm in the snow fighting!
Thanks for this Matt! I was the guy in the discord who asked you for a breakdown on this one aswell!
When the older woman is on the horse with Freya she says "This is going just as planned", to which Freya replies "this is your plan?", and the older woman shoots back, "I didn't say it was a good plan!"
Looks better than the other one.
Which I bet wasn't much
That’s what I was saying. So much better.
Yes. The voices sound way better mastered. The lip synching looks perfect, which shows how much of an advantage the Japanese version of the film will have.
not to b a weeb but i find the anime format to be a perfect fit for lotr’s epicness plus im glad to see jackson near the helm
Oh no.. this doesn't sound like a compliment considering how bad it is for Anime standards.
@@ryushogun9890if u think this is bad u admit to never being happy about anything ever
@@ryushogun9890what are you talking about? Have you seen anime movies before?
Big agree. I'm rooting for this one to do well because there are so many great LOTR stories you can tell with animation. Animated Fall of Gondolin would be so epic for example. You could build up a huge cache of animated LOTR stories from the Silmarillion and the Unfinished Tales and use it as a base to maybe build up to live action features at some point
Lotr's lore fits animation pretty well lmao
I'm really angry about all those blind "girl boss" criticism which doesn't try to understand the background of the film making. Japanese studios like Ghibli has been producing strong likable female figures that differs them from the unlikable Mary Sue, even Hera's voice actor said her character is going to resemble the female protagonist in Valley of the Wind.
I don't think that the story of Helm Hammerhand is going to be cut because of having a female lead. Eowyn's story doesn't cut out Theodens' too. It's just that we often see Theoden's narrative through Eowyn's lens (and Aragorn in The Two Towers) I suppose this is what happen to Hera and Helm too.
A lot of the criticism really just sounds like people don't like the idea of a woman having a bigger role in a story
Helms story isnt what I am worried about personally, its Frealafs. I can already see Hera being the one to kill Wulf and save Rohan, wouldnt shock me if they made her queen aswell.
Let me guess, you dont mind king henry of Britain being a black guy in a wheelchair or harald godamn finehair being played my a black woman.
@@lucasbelmonte2832 I really don't think that's going to happen.
Lets say you want to make pizza from scratch. But instead of cooking the pizza in an oven, you put it in the freezer. Sure the ingredients are the same, but the pizza will be hard to eat wont taste good. Its the same with this, follow the recipe (story) or leave it be.
A good story is good because of how its written, not how its made for "modern audiences"
if the movie is good, I will definitely be watching in both sub and dub. The art style is amazing.
This balances out each character's moments more
I’m sorry wait… 9:16
The original “Pondering your orb” piece is lotr art???
Yup, for those who know the meme seeing this in a serious context never gets old
I really do like the trailers. And I’m just glad to see other stories from this universe.
I just really really hope that this is good, after tolerating Amazon’s Rings of Power… I’ve been starved for a truly respectful and genuine take on Tolkien’s works!
I feel like this is perfect for the die hards, perfect for anime lovers/casual LOTR fans, and perfect for anime lovers who are new to the LOTR universe. It’s got something for everyone and is very Tolkien! I’m sure he would be proud to see such beautiful artwork done of his amazing brainchild ❤
I'm not sure if this has been pointed out yet, but the subtitles say the voice at the end is "Rot," and when he says the word "rings," you can 100% hear Dominic Monaghan.
Helm is one of the most BA caricatures, I really hope his story isn’t messed up or put off to the side.
I gotta say, I was really excited for this until I found out it's about Helm's strong courageous independent daughter and not Helm himself. I don't mind strong female characters but when it's appropriate to the story. Don't make a Batman movie that focuses on how courageous Alfred is. But I don't want to poison the well. I'll still see it and pass judgment afterwards.
The animation in the Japanese trailer looks way smoother as well.
That's good to hear because, what the hell?!
English VS Japanese version?
Nah, I'm just super glad we got more shots to look at overall, than just the same trailer with 2 languages.
Makes sense a more anime-esque trailer would appear in the land of anime! :D
I think this is gonna be bloody and epic.
My main running thought across all these reveals...damn, Hera is beautiful.
💀 weird
@@RenfromBespin Calling a female character beautiful is considered weird now. Wild lmao
@@OfficialEdwardNewgateBitch not even real😂 yeah it’s weird
So is Guyladriel.😞
FFXIII lightning
There are probably a lot of fair critiques to be made about the trailer, and possibly the film at large, but I am still really excited to be getting a Middle Earth story with a female protagonist. I appreciate any story told from the perspective of an often overlooked female character; it can add an intriguing new dimension to the story. I hope her story, and the story of Helm Hammerhand that this is based off of, are done justice. The animation looks really cool, to me. The style definitely reminds me of the Castlevania series on Netflix, which I enjoyed very much-both visually and story-wise.
I’m really happy to see more LOTR content. Call me complacent, but I welcome anything fresh and *new* to the Tolkien/Middle Earth Universe scene
I'm definitely ready for this! My nerdy heart is a flutter
Whaaaat this is so much better than the other trailer
Lol at all the cautiously optimistic remarks. People can't be satisfied with anything 😂
So I'm not sure if we have even seen Frealaf in either trailer, which really makes me worried that Jackson has somehow managed to convince the Tolkien estate to let him cut Frealaf completely and make Hera the big hero of this story and make her queen at the end, and because she is a daughter they can use that for the second line of kings. I really, REALLY hope this isnt the case.
He's in the other one but he looks like wulf
@@jessmith7324 So he doesn’t have blonde hair? Great.
He’s been cast, so definitely not cut
Maybe they will have Fréaláf pull an Ar-Pharazon on her and usurp the throne and seize the Sceptre. 😂😆🤣
@@Enerdhil Would not shock me at all
Because Japan has voice acting down to godly levels, it adds so much more to the trailer and makes the movie seem straight out of Studio Ghibli.
Nooo, why people like u do this? Like, this looks like Netflix or the very cheap shōunen. It's like saying renaissance painting looks like 18th century painting, although I can't really say this I would be fair to compare it to good paintings, more like graffiti compared to a painting. This has nothing to do with Ghibli in any sense.
@@ryushogun9890 STFU who u to deny him of his opinion
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How about Hèra flying on a Giant Eagle being similar to Nausicaä flying on Mehve?🤔
I think trying to mimic Miyazaki's success with strong female characters was always the way to go. Let's see if they can reach his level.🙏
Helm Hammer Hand: The Punch Heard Around Middle Earth.
from the Tolkien Curmudgeon: Nice breakdown, Nerd.
This trailer seems better than the first one to me. I feel like there is a possibility I may like this film, but of course who knows. After watching both trailers I am disappointed with several aspects, however. I really don't like the form-fitting costume which makes Hera look almost like a character out of "Soul Caliber" or something. Oh well, I guess some concessions to the style of this kind of film are unavoidable. I also think that the low "frame rate" (or "in-between" frequency) , typical for a lot of Japanese animation, seems irritatingly noticeable, especially when juxtaposed, as it is here, with live-action from Jackson's films. But the thing I like least has got to be the lack of seamlessness in combining many CGI elements with drawn characters. This is especially disconcerting considering the artistic triumph in combining 2D and 3D elements of some recent Japanese animated films such as the visually stunning "Belle: The Dragon and The Freckled Princess".
Well made video man!!!! Keep up the great work!!!!
Like the Japanese Trailer better than the English Trailer.
i love that saruman looks like christopher lee
Haha i was thinking if you were gonna make a new video..lol glad you did! Thanks man! ✌️
Remind? They were just pumping member berries like there's no tomorrow. Until we see the whole moving picture, my best guess will be they're totally going off the rails fan fiction style and will not be true to the source material, just fandom harvesting😢
The creature in the end is most definitely voiced by Dom Monaghan. In the german dubbed version of the trailer you can clearly hear the same person speaking who dubbed Merry in LotR.
3:29 (spoiler warning for the story)
Helm's sons don't both die at the Súthburg. His eldest son, Haleth, dies at Edoras, and likely the shots of him fighting there are before his death, and his death is the reason Héra and Háma aren't with him in the shots of them at Edoras
La graphic di Helm mi ricorda tanto l' iconografia di Odino 🩷
Hey Matt! I'll see Dom in October and I'll have to ask him if he is the 'voice over.' Thanks for the heads' up!
Maybe he had to sign a non-disclosure agreement. Probably not, but it is possible he won't be able to tell you.
So much for the walls of helms deep have never been breached
@nerdoftherings I'm surprised you didn't mention notice how similar she looks to Black Widow from her own movie
Oh yeah! I didn’t even make that connection, but you’re totally right!
I will miss Christopher Lee!
Well, I don't know how much LOTR was a success in Japan back in the day (I do know that Karl Urban and Viggo Mortense went there to promote the movie). I believe it's SOMEHOW remembered, as there there is SOME merchandise around there.
But I know that Japanese are usually not really engaged in western stuff (a children's anime has more tickets sold than an Avengers movie). So that's why I think the scenes from the movies are less from Rohan, more "iconic" LOTR moments, like Frodo putting in the ring by accident in the Prancing Pony, to be stronger in evoking that memory from fans.
Also, from an anime perspective, it makes sense that the trailer shows more action cuts.
8:50 where did you find this artwork? That looks great.
I don’t know but I want to!
I bet Helm Hammerhand will be dead within 30 minutes. The most badass character with a story consistently topping charts as most desirable adaptation. In his place, a character that even Tolkien let remain nameless and story-less.
Also it looks like Helm will not be dying his awesome death alone. The nameless story-less character is shoved into his death scene. Tells her to go as he stays fighting. Usual trope.
Dominic is a man of many voices 😂
For those that use Eowyn to back up Hera being the lead, I have 2 objections.
1: The books never made Eowyn out to be more special than every other man in the army. All focus is on Theodin during that part. The traliers seem to imply that Hera will be more important than most other men.
2. Eowyn was never portrayed as being more powerful than the men. She only beat the Witch King because Merry made him vulnerable. Hera can talk to the Eagles, is the fastest rider in Rohan, and tells Wulf that you should be afraid of me.
That doesn't mean a female character can't play a large role and not hog the spotlight at the same time. Shiek from Ocarina of Time and Tetra from The Wind Waker, (both Zelda games, as in, a game series made by a JAPANESE company), are prime examples of this.
Eöwyn beheaded a Fellbeast just before, to me that's pretty strong, as even her blade wasn't described as particularly magical or powerful
Captain Rohan got me i have to admit.
This is going to make watching Two Towers so much more mind blowing!
Also important question: SUB or DUB?
It's not a Japanese Anime. It's a US made (New Line Cinema/Warner Brothers Animation) animated film in the anime style.
@@jamescaldwell2357my question still stands
@@jamescaldwell2357 The studio behind it is Japanese.
@@jamescaldwell2357made in Japan by a Japanese studio so it is an anime.
Why choose if we can have both?
Imagine getting Dom Monaghan to voice a character and not have it be Hans Jensen
I love to see Samurai animation
Hera's outfit looks like anime Triss Merigold
If you guys remember, helm took his ring off and it seemed like he gave it to someone in the first trailer. Then it showed his son and another person who wasn’t his son. Many are assuming that person was freolaf…yes I butchered his name.
I was actually joking about being a Japanese version if they released another
Look at that orcs left hand at the end of the trailer. There's a scar lookin thing? Could it possibly be Sauron? There's that one theory of how he made the one Ring.
That scene with Hera wearing leggings would’ve looked cooler if they were baggy parachute style pants tucked into those shin guards, perhaps even with concealed weapons in there. I wish they’d gone that route instead.
Kenji Kamiyama is a great pick to direct this girlboss anime adaptation of a Tolkien story. However, I cannot ignore how its a film but the animation quality is just your typical big budget anime series level. Ive seen anime series trailers with better animation quality than this. I'm guessing its just gonna be on par with the animation studio's last anime series, Shenmue, in terms of animation polish.
Couldn't they use A.I. to smooth out the gap between frames? I don't think the clips in the trailer are all finished products.
This doesn't look bad at all. It was really cool to see Saruman and I'm interested in who will be succeeding Sir Christopher Lee, both Japanese and English.
I was much more critical of the English trailer, I am going to watch because I will enjoy aspects of the movie, but I'm still let down by the animation style and a few other things.
where did they came up with the name Hera?
Nobody mentions that the white dress could mean that Hera escapes from her wedding?
Btw, I would prefer the Aragorn's travels show made an anime like this than real action.
I always find it difficult to be immersed in an anime film when the VO is in English and not the native Japanese, so this trailer worked better for me, as weird as that is in the larger LOTR context where English is the more natural choice of language!
"what does Mordor want with rings?....have you worn wigs?....Will you wear wigs?"
The audio seems really off in this video😅 is it just me?
Dominic Monaghan is voicing wulf! Listen to it and you can hear it!
Wulf is voiced by Luke Pasqualino
Definitly Great content incoming…
I can’t wait to watch this
Honestly, I am really looking forward to this film now. I was a little unsure at first, you can never be to careful with spinoffs after all, but this looks like it's shaping up to be something special. I really hope we get more movies like this, which just tell some more of the smaller myths of Tolkien's world.
I really have been enjoying Rings of Power, but it's scale is it's biggest weakness. It's tackling hundreds, if not thousands of years worth of lore, while also having the Sisyphean task to make a digestible series. This story is a lot more personal, and I think that the changes in time scales will likely be as unnoticeable as the PJ movies' timescale changes were. Fingers crossed!
The animation style in anime is not the best look for me, I believe it to be a cheap and easy way in and out without worrying a out challenges.
For a great lore such as Tolkien's a new and hand drawn animation style should have been created specific to the lore alone.
There will always be people saying it's "good". People say Vinland is good, it's crazy.
Go make yourself an animation studio and do it yourself
@@plasticbag5508 You're the type of person who does not like people to say what they think of a art work, like they need to be artists to know how to judge a artwork. So if u wanna say good things about it, and defend it, why don't u first do one too and show us you know what you talking about? This type of toxicity creates cults around content creators as if they were gods. It's a opinion learn to go to bed knowing you're not the only person in the world.
@@ryushogun9890are you saying Vinland Saga’s animation is bad when you say it’s crazy?
@@ryushogun9890omygad u a internet karen?
This seems unrelated but would be awesome to see Captain Rohan in multiversus since that WB studios. Would be a nice tie in for people and gamers. Like look a character from a lotr movie is in our game so play our game or watch the movie to see the character. Just a thought
Love the map
Are you driving ?? 😂
does anyone know if they'll be showing jp version in the usa?
Good times
Replacement girl boss story continues. Rey of the LOTR universe incoming. I find it funny they feminized the American version so much more than the Japanese. Keep being socially conditioned guys/they/them.
The Japanese trailer is a lot better.
We need more the lord of the ring anime movie
I suspect based on these trailers they are probably going to clip Fréaláf out and have Hera do the stuff he does in the book. That makes alot of narrative sense given that if you are going to greatly expand Helm’s daughter into an actual character, Fréaláf becomes kind of redundant.
They’ve cast Fréaláf so that’s definitely not what’s happening
so...remove or change a character that Tolkien itself wrote and who became the next King to replace him with an OG character ? Sounds like modern Hollywood for me.
Yea, the tight outfit she wears is a red flag, it's too eastern anime, not western tolkien. That's just not how a shield maiden would have dressed, the outfit belongs in a different anime like Captain Harlock where they are pirates in space ships, not on a European horse Lord's daughter. It's Tolkien, i cannot give an inch because we've seen them take miles.
The Japanese trailer is so much better
❤Frieren > Galadriel
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Wild idea, but the snow troll seems to have a beard - maybe this is a scene playing out in Helm's subconscious, and the snow troll is his dark side filled with rage?
When do we get an English version?
Yesterday's video is the English version
We already have one. It has different shots though.
Both the English and Japanese trailers look awesome, though I think the English trailer did a better job capturing the core of the story: Freca asks Helm to let Wulf marry his daughter, she refuses, Freca challenges Helm to a fistfight, ending in his death. This leads to war. Though the Japanese trailer did include Helm in the winter, fighting a troll, and Saruman's appearance.
Meh, looks like a background movie while I sort magic cards. Hopefully it just comes to video quickly.
Dominic/Merry may be the narrator of the story, too...
I am fairly sure that has already been confirmed as being Miranda Otto
Im a bit disappointed. I wanted Helm to be the main character and not an essentially made up character
she's not a made up character she does appear in the books briefly
@@symphonixblades yes..for one paragraph without a name. She is a made up character. The only part tzhat is correc tis that she is Helms daughter. The r4est is completly made up
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