Drinker's Chasers - War of the Rohirrim: First Impressions

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  • @LuciusSicarius
    @LuciusSicarius 4 месяца назад +1544

    How are people not tired of the trope of "Princess doesn't want to get married, is secretly a badass, and then strangles a dragon to death."?
    It always felt like a weird idea to me that a girl who is the most spoiled girl in the kingdom, best food, shelter, safety, servants, clothes, ect., is somehow the victim. All she is expected to do is marry someone else and continue living with all those privileges, but somehow its the worst fate ever when compared to some peasant woman being abducted by enemies, starving, or freezing to death.

    • @ifu138
      @ifu138 4 месяца назад +240

      People ARE tired of it, that's why no one watches this stuff and meanwhile the female audience they're trying to target with it are off reading stories with cool male characters and romance lol

    • @nightperson1012
      @nightperson1012 4 месяца назад +120

      The only iteration of this story I liked was Merida, and that's because her brash actions actually have consequences that nearly destroy her entire life, family, and kingdom. Sure, she gets what she wants in the end, but it takes getting there first.

    • @unitron2005
      @unitron2005 4 месяца назад +104

      @@nightperson1012 Yeah, in Brave, her selfishness and responsibility-doding is the whole reason for the movies conflict, and the movie actually is concious about it.
      Sure, in the end, she still does not have to marry (yet), but at least she gets to the point where she actually is willing to do it and realizes that everything was her fault. So, not a pefect story. but a pretty good one none the less.And a very rare one that actually points out how selfish princesses are a threat to the whole kingdom. King Thrushbeard is similar in that aspect.

    • @unitron2005
      @unitron2005 4 месяца назад +84

      @@ethank4692
      "She isn't the one who doesn't want the marriage. It's literally in both the appendices and the trailer itself that Helm Hammerhand is insulted by the offer of marrying his daughter to a Dunlending so he kills the Dunlending king. Like holy shit, at least know what you're complaining about"
      She does not want it in this movie though. Literally the first thing she says. So what OP said remains true ABOUT THIS MOVIE.
      Maybe you should pay some attention yourself before lecturing others.
      Especially, since you called Freca "the Dunlending king". Freca isn't the king of Dunlendings, he is a lord of Rohan who is rumoured to have Dunlendish blood.
      Edit - Did you just delete your comment after it backfired?

    • @poijnve3912
      @poijnve3912 4 месяца назад +14

      hell event most of the time, the girl would be alowed to have lovers, as long as the first child is from the princes!
      so they dont even give up to be with the person they love! they just need to be a little secretive about it lel

  • @johnochiltree1170
    @johnochiltree1170 4 месяца назад +686

    Gary couldn’t remember Helm’s daughter’s name because in the appendices she doesn’t have one.

    • @life1042
      @life1042 3 месяца назад +35

      Her name is MARY SUE

    • @leongay3190
      @leongay3190 3 месяца назад

      @@life1042 ba

    • @SansoHumar
      @SansoHumar 3 месяца назад +1

      She had a name. It just wasn’t written.

    • @johnochiltree1170
      @johnochiltree1170 3 месяца назад +33

      @@SansoHumar are you appealing to some meta argument I’m not aware of?

    • @9thebear
      @9thebear 3 месяца назад +7

      @@SansoHumargroaaaan

  • @Timasion
    @Timasion 4 месяца назад +906

    In the book, she's known as the "daughter of Helm Hammerhand." She is not named at all.
    Note that in the trailer, she is sitting on Helm's right hand and his two sons, Hama and Haleth are sitting on the left. Historically, sitting on the right hand is supposed to be a symbol of power and authority. Typically, the heir to the throne will sit at the right hand of the king. On the left would sit the queen and other persons.
    Except that Haleth was the oldest and heir to the throne. Hama was the 2nd oldest and became the heir with Haleth was killed defending Edoras. Unnamed daughter was never in line to the throne nor was she an advisor.

    • @GideonRavenor712
      @GideonRavenor712 4 месяца назад +53

      One could argue for the purposes of a Marriage Proposal here it might make sense for his daughter to be right there, assuming they knew this in advance.
      But yea, otherwise it would be the Queen, firstborn son, or closest advisor (Like when Gandalf and the others go to free Theoden's mind, we see Grima in the seat next to Theoden, and Gandalf takes it several scenes later.)

    • @MrPGC137
      @MrPGC137 4 месяца назад +37

      Gotta Girlboss...

    • @iangregory3719
      @iangregory3719 4 месяца назад +10

      Sitting to the Kings Right Hand is I believe the origin of the name Poindexter ie: The Right Hand.

    • @ViolentMessiah666
      @ViolentMessiah666 4 месяца назад +7

      @@GideonRavenor712 In the book the offer was made in private, only Frecka & Helm were in the room (I did chuckle at the "Our fathers talk like I'm not in the room" line) but now they changed it to being this big official thing in front of the whole court

    • @aSSGoblin1488
      @aSSGoblin1488 4 месяца назад

      surely.... peter jackson will not eff this up. i would trust in his skill hopefully. sure therer are changes but

  • @Bayside78
    @Bayside78 4 месяца назад +299

    Helm was the guy so badass that he could blow his horn before walking out of Helm's Deep alone and the enemy soldiers would run away instead of trying to gang up to take him. So of course the movie has to be about his nameless daughter instead of him.

    • @solan7978
      @solan7978 3 месяца назад +28

      @RyanRoberts-qf5et Doubt it, since they'd be dead of shock that a LotR show was coming out without being hideously SJW.

    • @solan7978
      @solan7978 3 месяца назад

      @RyanRoberts-qf5et Don't think so. You're acting like people are being unreasonable, when in reality we're just tired of the sexist, racist SJW crap churned out by Hollywood instead of entertainment.

    • @waddahyana494
      @waddahyana494 3 месяца назад +8

      @RyanRoberts-qf5et i don't know about that one chief, it seems everyone is complaining about the girlboss movement that screws the original lore over, if it followed helm's story without making him some sort of sorry wimp then i doubt anyone would complain, and if they did, they'll be a small minority

    • @waddahyana494
      @waddahyana494 3 месяца назад +4

      @RyanRoberts-qf5et that's just you misunderstanding because you don't want to get too deep into it, it's normal

    • @seriousnesstv7902
      @seriousnesstv7902 2 месяца назад

      @RyanRoberts-qf5etyou know no one is gonna hate that, you just say that to justify your love for this crap because “fans complain about anything”

  • @beowulfsrevenge4369
    @beowulfsrevenge4369 4 месяца назад +1327

    They should have just stuck to the story of Helm Hammerhand and left his nameless daughter out of it.
    Helms story, while it only gets a brief description in the appendices, is more than enough for a movie, and his daughter is just mentioned and not named.

    • @hardworkingslacker7233
      @hardworkingslacker7233 4 месяца назад +161

      Making her a side character would have been fine too.

    • @beowulfsrevenge4369
      @beowulfsrevenge4369 4 месяца назад +125

      ​@hardworkingslacker7233 Yup, she could easily have been a supporting character. That trailer was practically all about her.

    • @echoechoecho7142
      @echoechoecho7142 4 месяца назад +115

      War of the Ro-HER-im.
      Starring HER-a the Hero.
      Girl Boss of Middle Earth
      Woke feminist propaganda
      Just like Rings of Power.
      Nope. Not a penny

    • @hoseja
      @hoseja 4 месяца назад +17

      I read a good take that maybe the story should be told from the perspective of Fréaláf Hildeson.

    • @Chociewitka
      @Chociewitka 4 месяца назад +24

      No kings' daughter seems to be named in the Rohirric chronicles cited in the appendices - kings' daughters are listed but not named - except for those two whose own sons become kings later after their cousins' lines die out - those two are previous kings' sisters Hild and Theodwyn. Neither are the 3 daughters of Aldor the Old named, nor 2 daughters of Fengel, nor are even the remaining 3 of the 4 sisters of Theoden named safe for only Theodwyn alone. So the fact that Helm's daughter is unnamed is not significant, this seems just Rohirric custom.

  • @MajorSmurf
    @MajorSmurf 4 месяца назад +154

    People act like marriages in these kind of times weren't also often hated by male heirs too. If you were a son of some low born noble or not next in line and your father/king arranged for you to marry a daughter from a higher status family or other kingdom. She might be a complete and utter horrible person, yet you will do your duty for the family. This was how a lot of great men and women came into power by marrying or marrying off their children to form the perfect alliances. Blood ties were also critical for peace and necessary as well X kingdom or person can't turn against you, if you essentially have their son or daughter hostage. Also if you didn't want to live as a prince or princess or noble you can abdicate, plenty of men and women did and choose to do so for the sake of loving another. You just don't get to live a life of privilege and offer nothing of value. For men and women, their only value was that they were the son or daughter of X. Even fathers and mothers didn't like to do it but it was either do it or greatly risk war. A loveless marriage is far more preferable than war breaking out and loads of people dying or your entire kingdom wiped away like a stray tear.

    • @risingofthethorn1197
      @risingofthethorn1197 4 месяца назад +6

      I will be honest, the more I read about history the more the idea of being a barbarian a merc, or a Wildman sounds really appealing

    • @OtherDAS
      @OtherDAS 4 месяца назад +13

      Or the could grow to love one another. Did happen on occasion.

    • @pauloazuela8488
      @pauloazuela8488 4 месяца назад

      Well the father so strong he one punched the guy killing him which escalated the situation anyway. If he hadn't done that there's probably still some conflict but not like that in the books either

    • @anarionelendili8961
      @anarionelendili8961 4 месяца назад +6

      Helm punched Freca to death over an insult Freca had given him (after Helm had called him fat). The marriage proposal had been put aside to talk about later (with the implication that the answer would be 'no' given the insults, but still). Nothing to do with the princess' willingness to marry or not.
      We shall see how it happens in the movie. Presumably the punch-up will be the result of her saying that she doesn't wish to marry Wulf, and things escalate from there.
      If they want to be really surprising, they can have her die. Which would also explain why it is Helm's nephew (via his sister, Hild) rather than the husband of her daughter who becomes the next king. Nor are any grandchildren of Helm ever mentioned, so it would make sense for the line to die out.

    • @f.b.l.9813
      @f.b.l.9813 4 месяца назад +7

      the feelings of women are the only things that matter.

  • @unitron2005
    @unitron2005 4 месяца назад +853

    Every movie princess: "I can totally be a leader you guyz!"
    Also every movie princess: "I refuse to do even the minimum amount of duty and self sacrifice by marriing a prince and thus preventing wars because things being 100% convieniant for me 100% of the time is more important than the lives of my 10 million subjects! But you can be sure I'll never complain that I get to live in a castle, have 100 dresses, good food, shelter, and every luxury of my time. Me Me MEEEEEEEE"

    • @Pangora2
      @Pangora2 4 месяца назад

      You can remove the word "movie" and then it becomes clear why female rulers are not common and don't last long.

    • @BlackHawk4698
      @BlackHawk4698 4 месяца назад +106

      Imo, it would be interesting to see a princess movie where the lesson is that the princess being selfish actually causes all the problems, instead of solving them.

    • @ShadowGricken
      @ShadowGricken 4 месяца назад +45

      @@BlackHawk4698
      Cersei Lannister?

    • @unitron2005
      @unitron2005 4 месяца назад +66

      @@BlackHawk4698
      Indeed, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
      The movie "Brave" kinda does that - the princess starts off as the usual rebellious don't wanna get married princess thing. She offends all the other clans, she runs off, gets a potion to change her mother's mind about the marriage planned for her, and...
      due to her stubbornness, her mother gets turned into a bear, and a war between the clans almost breaks out, and she has to solve it by admitting that it was all her fault and that she has to face her duties as well.
      Of couse, hollyweird, even at it's best is still what it is, so in the end, she does not have to marry anyone, but at least she gets to the point where she was willing to do it and she admitted to being wrong. But of course, the flaws that I mentioned aren't really adressed in detail, just kind of in general. (So all in all, it's more of a "don't dodge your responsibilities" kind of tale and not a "the general problem with movie princesses" kind of story.)
      There's also King Thrushbeard by the Brothers Grimm, which tells kind of the same premise of a bratty princess getting humbled.But that one is also more about the dangers of arrogance and less about the princess problems that I mentioned above.

    • @hinugundamB
      @hinugundamB 4 месяца назад +6

      @@BlackHawk4698 there's a number of this kind of story in Japan Light novel/web novels.
      Thou non of them got an anime adeptation so far.

  • @SuperPyst
    @SuperPyst 4 месяца назад +80

    They're going to tell a story that no one has ever seen before, a girl that is told she cant do a thing and does the thing and is perfect at it.
    It's a unique, stunning brave and fresh take that no one has ever done before...

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 4 месяца назад +1197

    Lotr: I am no man!
    War of the Rohirrim: I don’t need no man!

    • @TallisKeeton
      @TallisKeeton 4 месяца назад +14

      I have hope for this movie. I can see its a girlboss movie so it goes not against the tide of so many of these movies and as such it could be boring. But as for me I want to see how much they depended the story on the marysue and girlboss topic. Maybe the role of Hera will be fine, and not too much on the side of marysue and girlboss. Her sentiment
      "I dont need no man" can be false or irritating (and then she would not be marysue but more realistic personage with weakness and mistakes) but at the same time it also can be based on smt in the story and in the Rohan culture. I see her sentiment as a good start to tragic development of events for Rohan. And also I see her sentiment as similar to the sentiment of Wanda - princess from Polish legends who also did not want to marry a cruel prince to make an alliance between their tribes. Her tribe got problems becouse of her decision. :) If this tale is something similar that could be good :)

    • @jacksparrow9227
      @jacksparrow9227 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TallisKeeton smt?

    • @jacksparrow9227
      @jacksparrow9227 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TallisKeeton Hopefully

    • @TallisKeeton
      @TallisKeeton 4 месяца назад

      @@jacksparrow9227smt - something :)

    • @kristopherhayes1957
      @kristopherhayes1957 4 месяца назад +5

      ​@TallisKeeton I suppose that could be a possibility, especially with reference to the polish princess. However, we would have to wait and see. You can never know if something will be good these days, especially from modern Hollywood.

  • @ghostraven3749
    @ghostraven3749 3 месяца назад +137

    “I’m the fastest rider you have!”
    I’m pretty sure it’s the horse that’s doing all the running.

    • @bomburthedwarf9036
      @bomburthedwarf9036 3 месяца назад +35

      I stopped thought about it and you know what she probably is actually the fastest because she probably weighs like 100pounds less than any of the warrior men, making the horses job a lot easier.

    • @EvilMAiq
      @EvilMAiq 3 месяца назад +14

      @@bomburthedwarf9036 Makes sense, all racing jockeys are quite small.

    • @IchigoParfaitTabetai
      @IchigoParfaitTabetai 3 месяца назад +2

      Pretty sure you won't be able to handle long distance gallop if you are poorly trained. You'd fall of or you'd have to slow the horse down to rest yourself.

    • @bomburthedwarf9036
      @bomburthedwarf9036 3 месяца назад +2

      @@IchigoParfaitTabetai Yes, but that's just the Rohan equivalent of having a drivers licence. By their culture its nothing special, they learn to ride as children. Someone especially of higher class not being able to do that would be seen as a failure, so it's not an impressive feat when taken in context.

    • @wavion2
      @wavion2 2 месяца назад +1

      aka "I'm the smallest/lightest rider you have!"

  • @flyinpigmusic331
    @flyinpigmusic331 4 месяца назад +1590

    The girlboss is strong with this one

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 4 месяца назад +106

      Their lack of faith in Tolkien is disturbing

    • @ShotgunWizard
      @ShotgunWizard 4 месяца назад +22

      Let’s hope not… but it sure looks like it

    • @Herr_Affe
      @Herr_Affe 4 месяца назад

      No kidding. It's got that "strong independent female" footprint all over it. If it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck...

    • @dirkjewitt5037
      @dirkjewitt5037 4 месяца назад +53

      Yeah, this more than reeks of a He-Man treatment.

    • @j24ish
      @j24ish 4 месяца назад +62

      Managed to kill my interest in one sneak peak.
      Impressive

  • @austinkoeppen6122
    @austinkoeppen6122 4 месяца назад +191

    "My pride, my joy."
    *is unnamed in the appendices*

    • @ViolentMessiah666
      @ViolentMessiah666 4 месяца назад +18

      And where are his 2 sons, Hama & Haleth? Didn't see them once 🙄

    • @f.b.l.9813
      @f.b.l.9813 4 месяца назад

      @@ViolentMessiah666 women are more important than men, even the unnamed ones, that's how equality works!

    • @fantasywind3923
      @fantasywind3923 4 месяца назад +7

      @@ViolentMessiah666 supposedly those are the two boys sitting near the king in the scene of Freca entering Meduseld. Still a one brief moment is totally disrespectful...those guys gave their own lives to defend their country!!!!!!!

    • @ViolentMessiah666
      @ViolentMessiah666 4 месяца назад +3

      @@fantasywind3923 oh I must've missed that, would've been nice if they mentioned them by name seeing as this is supposed to be their story. She gets mentioned once in the whole thing. There was a marriage offer, Helm refused end of her role in the story

    • @fantasywind3923
      @fantasywind3923 4 месяца назад +3

      @@ViolentMessiah666 yeah...that's the thing...the sons of king Helm, Hama and Haleth are the ones actually doing stuff in the story, both dying heroically...then there's also the sister son Frealaf who will become the next king and HE was the one who ultimately defeated Wulf and reclaimed Edoras. So those are actually quite important characters, Helm himself is a heroic if a touch flawed character...hell if the story focus was on him it would be a great tragic figure story....or even a sort of like that Beowulf animated movie (protagonist dying at/near the end and add the epilogue showing the further events or something like that similarly like with the 300 movie!).

  • @silverscorpio24
    @silverscorpio24 4 месяца назад +1255

    Kinda dilutes Eowyn's courage and bravery, doesn't it.

    • @EnsignRedshirtRicky
      @EnsignRedshirtRicky 4 месяца назад +128

      She also pulls a Guyladriel with the ice-sheet climbing. So she can do it all. I wonder if she will say "You have not seen what I have seen" or just explain how boats work?

    • @rollrcoastrbacon2725
      @rollrcoastrbacon2725 4 месяца назад +21

      Like WB cares

    • @doopdoopdopdop7424
      @doopdoopdopdop7424 4 месяца назад +31

      Yeah this reeks of the STD brand “Muh OC Donut Steel did this x amount of time before legacy character.”

    • @Herr_Affe
      @Herr_Affe 4 месяца назад +19

      @EnsignRedshirtRicky here's hoping for cringe lines like "I have a tempest in me" also.

    • @ShadowGricken
      @ShadowGricken 4 месяца назад +27

      Not really? This was 200 years before Eowyn was born. She certainly wasn't the first woman to face danger in middle earth.
      If you want to argue its non-caonical, sure yeah it is. But that's like saying Aragorn isn't as heroic because Turin existed.

  • @harbl99
    @harbl99 4 месяца назад +259

    "We decided to change the story of Helm Hammerhand so that it's all was about his unnamed alliance token daughter. I feel that this is what Tolkien would have wanted." -- Pippa Boyens' revealed preference talking

    • @enfieldjohn101
      @enfieldjohn101 3 месяца назад +4

      Tolkien would be furious if he knew what modern day studios were doing to his books.

    • @IchigoParfaitTabetai
      @IchigoParfaitTabetai 3 месяца назад +2

      Book spoiler for the story:
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      ..
      If they made Helm or his sons to be protagonists of this movie, they would have to stop mid-way in the story with a very depressed audience.

    • @paulmartyn3388
      @paulmartyn3388 Месяц назад +1

      @@IchigoParfaitTabetaiwhat about Frealaf? He did not just spring from a stone.

  • @FoxWolfWorld
    @FoxWolfWorld 4 месяца назад +750

    I always loved the Rohirrim, while the people of Gondor are like “we’re descended from the Numenorians who were chosen by the elves and have ties to the Valar etc. etc” the people of Rohan were just like “yea, that guys who just punched his enemy to death, that’s our King”

    • @easygrin1127
      @easygrin1127 4 месяца назад +28

      But its gonna be the Princess that saves them..

    • @GideonRavenor712
      @GideonRavenor712 4 месяца назад +32

      Vikings of the Plains, indeed.

    • @CynickeZpravy
      @CynickeZpravy 4 месяца назад +27

      ​@GideonRavenor712 Anglo-Saxons, technically. Edoras is an old english word. But to make things more complicated, Rohan is a place in France.

    • @Raximus3000
      @Raximus3000 4 месяца назад +2

      Saitama: So, do i! Did he also had trouble finding oppoments who could challenge him?

    • @Red_Devil_2011
      @Red_Devil_2011 4 месяца назад +34

      This trailer makes me mad. I've had enough. EVERYONE should have had enough of this fifth-column, demoralizing, woke garbage by now. It hits every gurlboss trope. Imagine a story where the heroine *actually likes* her culture?! Is that so hard?! BrownManWF couple AGAIN because having a Rohan princess fall in love with a blue-eyed blonde man is too taboo these days. Everyone supporting this should be *ashamed.* We deserve *better.*

  • @Madonnalitta1
    @Madonnalitta1 4 месяца назад +141

    When I was 9, I found a book called Journeys of Middle-earth and so began my love of all things Tolkien.
    These modern 'retellings' would never have inspired my 9 yo self.

    • @user-cd6dd3ye8k
      @user-cd6dd3ye8k 3 месяца назад

      Excuse me, but aren't you female?

    • @SMC01ful
      @SMC01ful 3 месяца назад

      Funny, because, the target audience which will sweep this to ratings glory, appears to be 9 year old girls. However, it's much to violent for children. Furthermore, the anime artistic style presented here, and it's more muted, earthy darker colours appeal to more adult male anime fans. As a general rule of thumb, the more colourful the anime, the more the creators are looking for a broader male and female audience. Women, as a result won't be watching this either, and women don't either understand or relate to the fantasy genre quite like men do. Once again, Warner Bros will also be banking on licensing and merch deals. However, as we have seen repeatedly, boys don't girl boss, and girls and women don't buy merch like boys and men do. I am banking on a flop, yawn! The incompetence is truly breathtaking.

  • @AscendantStoic
    @AscendantStoic 4 месяца назад +192

    Yet another girlboss who wasn't even named in the story suddenly becomes the most important character in the story .. sheeesh!

    • @reek4062
      @reek4062 4 месяца назад +11

      Helm is sidelined and whitewashed in his own film.

  • @hisdudeness8328
    @hisdudeness8328 4 месяца назад +394

    I love how one reviewer pointed out that the daughter is supposed to be portrayed in this story as a hero, yet her actions directly caused the war and the deaths of countless young men, simply because, “How dare you choose a husband for me?”

    • @pauloazuela8488
      @pauloazuela8488 4 месяца назад +38

      Helm doesn't even wanted his daughter to be married nor his sons marrying the daughter from the enemy in the first place

    • @Sarah27H
      @Sarah27H 4 месяца назад +32

      Yes! Thank you!! I saw this and all I could think was, "if this is portraying accurately, her girl boss moment is leading to a war with untold numbers of deaths."

    • @snakedogman
      @snakedogman 4 месяца назад +31

      "Women most affected"

    • @somethingclever8916
      @somethingclever8916 3 месяца назад +10

      A better story is she wants to get married.

    • @Instarius
      @Instarius 3 месяца назад

      @hisdudeness8328 Don't care about that she show, but that reason is good enough. No one should have the right to violate another person's autonomy like this, even if it's their own child, and if they do, they should be prepared for the consequences, if one is willing to fight for their own freedom.

  • @stephenfitzgerald9769
    @stephenfitzgerald9769 4 месяца назад +244

    A gorgeously animated grilboss story is still a girlboss story. I wanted the _ACTUAL_ story, where Helm Hammerhand beats people like red-headed step-children and the Dunlandings talk about him like he’s John Wick!

    • @fafafais
      @fafafais 4 месяца назад +4

      They girl this too! Why masn? Why?

    • @grimsonforce7504
      @grimsonforce7504 4 месяца назад +10

      @@solarydays Compared to most western animation it's a step up no more tumblr styled shit. However I agree the animation in some areas need work and I really hate the 3D it feels so cheap.

    • @pauloazuela8488
      @pauloazuela8488 4 месяца назад +2

      @@grimsonforce7504 They're using mocap 3d rendered scenes and they would draw 2d out of that reference , no tracing at all. So it's mostly 2D not sure about those war elephants and the wood destruction is 2.5. Good thing your comment is bearable because the trailer still needed some polish unlike the other person above who knew nothing.

    • @ViolentMessiah666
      @ViolentMessiah666 4 месяца назад +1

      There's a whole bunch of bad frames in that trailer & the facial proportions are wrong (enlarged eyes, shrunken nose). This is sloppy animation

    • @gageshippy2256
      @gageshippy2256 2 месяца назад

      How would you write a girlboss story correctly?

  • @kubapuchalski8633
    @kubapuchalski8633 4 месяца назад +194

    "You could rule the world", "I'm not afraid of you" and "You should be", they lost me hard and I really wanted to see this movie.

    • @unitron2005
      @unitron2005 4 месяца назад +64

      - Sure, Melkor, the 2nd mightiest god in existence, failed at ruling the world, but you, my regular human daughter of 40 kgs, you totally could rule the world!
      - But how, dad?
      - MeToo, daughter, MeToo.

    • @Ruddline
      @Ruddline 4 месяца назад +14

      Writing generally sucks now but I understand what you mean.

    • @damon2303
      @damon2303 4 месяца назад +12

      I really hate that “You could rule the world” part because that was literally Sauron’s objective. I understand if the father says this while dying because it’s the equivalent of saying “Your stronger than you think” before dying but maybe not in a trailer without context or I’m going to guess the intention of it being there in the first place

    • @paha4209
      @paha4209 3 месяца назад +11

      It also doesn´t make any sense. Rohan played Ball with most of the other kingdoms in middle earth. They had good relations with Gondor, Saruman/Gandalf, the elves and the dwarfs for the most part. Why would anyone say something stupid as "You could rule the world" when that´s not even on the table?

    • @prof1185
      @prof1185 3 месяца назад +6

      these are lines that Tolkien would never in a milion years write for a character that is supposed to be "good"

  • @poiuyt975
    @poiuyt975 4 месяца назад +361

    Marriages among nobles were business deals even in the XIX century.

    • @lemmypop1300
      @lemmypop1300 4 месяца назад

      XIX? Try XX. Prince Charles married Diana on his mother's advice, cause Camilla was divorced and wasn't a suitable match. They were stuck in a loveless marriage cause of the politics of the royal house.

    • @mikavirtanen7029
      @mikavirtanen7029 4 месяца назад +56

      Yeah, up to the WW1 it was unthinkable that royalty and nobles would marry outside their class. Marriages were always choreographed by courts and higher you were in the totem pole, fewer potential matches were available. Spunky princesses or princes with attitude about marriage in medieval setting is as realistic as Looney Tunes.

    • @boshirahmed
      @boshirahmed 4 месяца назад

      It's also insulting ignoring the reasons for it. Men die in wars and many others perish, but hey let's use modern morality ignoring the whole point of kings.​@@mikavirtanen7029

    • @Red_Devil_2011
      @Red_Devil_2011 4 месяца назад

      Not to mention that arranged marriages were not always the worst-case scenario. Most of the time, it was just a way of networking and finding candidates everyone was good with. You could find love. Not every case was ideal, of course, but not every case was a grapey trap either. Feminists and post modernists just love their oppression narratives.

    • @frankgesuele6298
      @frankgesuele6298 4 месяца назад +21

      @@mikavirtanen7029 Archduke Franz Ferdinand 's wife Sophie was a commoner. The royals placed her coffin below his at the state funeral to show in death the contempt they showed her in life.

  • @grimmwolf9690
    @grimmwolf9690 4 месяца назад +68

    "Due to the single handed victory carried out at this fortress, it shall from hence forth be known as haira's deep. I hope that no king in the future changes it cause of misogyny." -Helm Hammerhad

  • @rafaelpozo9962
    @rafaelpozo9962 4 месяца назад +415

    So, she does everything the fellowship of the ring does and more? 😂😂

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 4 месяца назад +63

      Of course. Don't you know, one white women is equal or more than nine men...

    • @AscendantStoic
      @AscendantStoic 4 месяца назад

      Typical girlboss shit!

    • @NoFace-ke9pc
      @NoFace-ke9pc 4 месяца назад +3

      This ones caught on. ​@jonbaxter2254

    • @ifu138
      @ifu138 4 месяца назад +26

      @@jonbaxter2254 what's one black woman equal to? 900?

    • @AdamantineAxe
      @AdamantineAxe 4 месяца назад +38

      ​@@ifu138 over 9000!

  • @rossbaker-xh3wq
    @rossbaker-xh3wq 4 месяца назад +42

    I like the level of homework that’s been carried out for this video. Nerdrotic brought his LOTR appendices - bookmarked and ready to go and Theory is like “wait, it’s animated”? 😂

    • @Sandlund93
      @Sandlund93 3 месяца назад +3

      I don't even get why Theory shows up for these meetings. He doesn't add anything, he might as well watch them like the rest of us lol.

    • @S4ltyTar0
      @S4ltyTar0 11 дней назад

      Lol, "bookmarked and ready to go" the whole story is on 2 pages.

  • @vharuv4651
    @vharuv4651 4 месяца назад +326

    I love the bit where Helm-chan put on the ring and used it to defeat Galbatorix riding on the back of Kaladin Stormblessed while screaming "The wheel weaves as the wheel wills", then unites all of the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros. Also she's gay.

    • @adrianconmer3953
      @adrianconmer3953 4 месяца назад +61

      You forgot to mention when she used the power of many.

    • @rogue_of_the_winds1286
      @rogue_of_the_winds1286 4 месяца назад +33

      You leave Stormlight Archive outta this! Lol

    • @Herr_Affe
      @Herr_Affe 4 месяца назад +13

      @@vharuv4651 you forgot to mention she was wielding Mournblade. Come on, man...

    • @linejumper8204
      @linejumper8204 4 месяца назад +10

      It would be funnier if it took an arrow to the knee during all of it.

    • @mortuitissedai2085
      @mortuitissedai2085 4 месяца назад +12

      @@rogue_of_the_winds1286 Stormlight and WoT kick ass, wish more people I knew read good fantasy (rather than YA smut).

  • @hiair
    @hiair 4 месяца назад +29

    Everyone loves Eowyn and that is because she was a good character, she was NOT A MARY SUE. We know her story, its similar to that of Mulan, but "Apparently", "somehow", "she was not special at all"; women on middle earth "ALWAYS" grabbed swords and could fight on war any time they wanted. "No special achievement Eowyn".

  • @grandmufftwerkin9037
    @grandmufftwerkin9037 4 месяца назад +413

    Omg, they're actually depicting a ginger that hasn't been race swapped. 😱

    • @jonbaxter2254
      @jonbaxter2254 4 месяца назад +21

      Was she even red-haired in the lore?

    • @GigglingStoners
      @GigglingStoners 4 месяца назад +31

      Has science progressed that far?!

    • @rollrcoastrbacon2725
      @rollrcoastrbacon2725 4 месяца назад

      It takes Japan to give Western audiences their redheads back

    • @AscendantStoic
      @AscendantStoic 4 месяца назад +80

      That's a trap, she is going to girlboss so hard probably making her stronger than the entire fellowship of the ring!

    • @luchomscyfy
      @luchomscyfy 4 месяца назад +53

      Well, it's animation. If it's live action, she's gonna be race-swapped....

  • @dazt6h
    @dazt6h 4 месяца назад +14

    I'm just 30, and I've seen every franchise I love go up in flames.
    Feels great man.

    • @user-cd6dd3ye8k
      @user-cd6dd3ye8k 3 месяца назад +2

      Well, when all your myths and legends have been defiled by your enemies, its time to make new ones. Or get rid of your enemies.

    • @JaimeTanner-b2i
      @JaimeTanner-b2i 18 дней назад

      Really warms your heart, doesn't it?
      My take is this "princess" sits on his right hand because she is his eldest son but identifies as a girl. The whole marriage thing is just Helm trying to force zhe's hand in the whole boy/girl issue and zhe's rebelling against it.

  • @brianmurphy6480
    @brianmurphy6480 4 месяца назад +205

    "The Kegels are coming!"
    An army of middle-aged flying cat-women in the sky, winging toward Rohan, with a box of wine clutched in their talons and screeching like harpies about the benefits of pelvic floor exercises. 😂

    • @och70
      @och70 4 месяца назад +10

      Dude... 😆

    • @Garrus1995
      @Garrus1995 4 месяца назад +13

      JD Vance tried to warn us.

    • @sunsin1592
      @sunsin1592 4 месяца назад +2

      That would be better than this.

    • @thebillykeith
      @thebillykeith 4 месяца назад

      100 points for original joke. Nice one.

    • @AnthonyRomero-w8u
      @AnthonyRomero-w8u 4 месяца назад +2

      Dude this is the most amazing visual amalgamation of woke female content I've ever heard😂😂😂

  • @annafife9094
    @annafife9094 4 месяца назад +54

    Noble women were raised from birth to make good marriages to ensure peace and power to their people. It was considered their highest responsibility. They were taught different languages, various foreign etiquettes, how to run a court, how to manage vast estates, and foreign diplomacy. It would never occur to these women to put romantic ideals before their duty, anymore than a warrior would demand to be a scholar or a monk would demand to take a lover.
    However, there are plenty of examples in history and literature of men being eager to win a woman's love and not just her hand. The wooing of Catherine by Harry in Shakespeare's Henry V is a great example. It was written in the 16th century about a 15th century marriage. And whether it was true or not it proves that a woman's willingness to enter an arranged marriage was not only acceptable but preferable in society at the time.
    Women also had the freedom to reject a marriage proposal, as shown in Pride and Prejudice written in the early 1800s. Elizabeth's mother tries to force Elizabeth to marry Mr Collins in order to save her family from losing their home. Elizabeth not only disobeys her mother's wishes, her father openly supports his daughter's decision. Could such a story become a beloved classic in the Regency era if women were only considered as chattel?
    But you know, patriarchy bad amirite?

    • @harrygarris6921
      @harrygarris6921 4 месяца назад +15

      A wonderful example was the Byzantine empress Theodora I. She was born into the lower social classes but climbed the ranks of society and eventually caught the eye of the emperor Justinian and he was so taken by her that he changed the legal codes that had prevented nobility from marrying commoners so that he could take her as a wife. And the story certainly could have ended there but Theodora had a lot of influence on her husband and used this to improve reforms and legal status for women in the Empire as well as advocated for and helped to protect Monophysite Christians who were a persecuted religious minority at the time.
      Something like that would be a story worth telling, but no instead we get anachronistic modern ideals of individualist fulfillment and self-determination projected onto a medieval princess for the 743rd time.

    • @Mark-in8ju
      @Mark-in8ju 4 месяца назад +4

      Patriarchy is a good thing because it keeps the birthrate high and stabilizes income.

    • @ColoradoStreaming
      @ColoradoStreaming 3 месяца назад

      @@harrygarris6921 Lola Montez is another crazy story of a common woman gaining power. She was basically an Irish exotic dancer that shower her breast to King Ludwig of Bavaria who fell in love with her and she became a Princess of Bavaria until she pissed off enough European Royalty that they kicked her out. Its a pretty insane and funny story.

  • @MMDelta9
    @MMDelta9 4 месяца назад +106

    One girl boss to rule them all.

    • @roel.vinckens
      @roel.vinckens 4 месяца назад +8

      And in the darkness bind them.
      Bondage galore.

  • @timw483
    @timw483 4 месяца назад +43

    I'm with Drinker on this one about reserving judgement but after all the girl-boss disasters we've been forced to endure lately, it's difficult to be optimistic.

    • @Adoyleonon
      @Adoyleonon 3 месяца назад +3

      The pendulum is swinging. It just takes time.

  • @hcook1023
    @hcook1023 4 месяца назад +67

    Feminist forget in arranged marriages the men are also forced into by the families. Freedom to choose a spouse was not a privilege royalty and high nobles usually got even the princes, as a sacrifice for the immense privileges they got they sacrificed some aspects

    • @unitron2005
      @unitron2005 4 месяца назад

      feminists don't care about what men go through or what they have to deal with. It's all me me meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....

    • @harrygarris6921
      @harrygarris6921 4 месяца назад +8

      I feel like calling it "forced" is anachronistic. The young nobles that were getting married off were brought up learning the reality of their lifestyle and knew that in order to maintain their family's wealth and power and prestige they needed a marriage that would help facilitate this. In the modern age marriage has been turned into a very different thing - it's all about fulfilling your personal desires. But we live in pretty extreme times and people in the past were certainly far less individualistic than we are today.

    • @user-cd6dd3ye8k
      @user-cd6dd3ye8k 3 месяца назад

      @@harrygarris6921 To be fair, for men at all time periods marriage was a shit deal IF you followed the letter of the law about it.
      In spirit, in the past you could fuck around as much as you liked, as long as you don't anything too crazy like make some bastard that popped out of your maid heir, it was more or less fine. It was all about who got the $$$.
      In modern age, as long as you put your wealth in an irrevocable trust, in the name of a parent of holding company that is based overseas or behind shell companies where your host country has no jurisdiction, you can fuck around as much as you want.
      Basically women are just salty the purity/vagina market hasn't really kept up with the times.

    • @romanslav827
      @romanslav827 23 дня назад +1

      It's also not like they only had one choice, or they had absolutely no say in the matter. They would likely be suggested several possible options, based on the impression I get from what I've read. Also "love" was more understood through ACTION and loyalty, not just some butterflies. If a man and a woman were honorable, they could make it work and grow to love each other.

  • @jakekreeger1556
    @jakekreeger1556 4 месяца назад +51

    5:43 all jokes aside maybe you shouldn’t get into a brawling contest with the dude named Helm hammer hand

  • @estuardo2985
    @estuardo2985 4 месяца назад +124

    It's like a burger that they just completely slathered your most loathed condiment all throughout it.

    • @Lawrence_Talbot
      @Lawrence_Talbot 4 месяца назад

      You loathe women?

    • @bronco5334
      @bronco5334 4 месяца назад +20

      Also, it's vegan. And the bun is gluten-free

  • @mrspinkles700
    @mrspinkles700 4 месяца назад +82

    Man, "Suzuki Toyota" went completely unnoticed by the panel. Had me dying 😂

    • @snakedogman
      @snakedogman 4 месяца назад +5

      Seemed unneccesarily racist to me.

    • @puddingcatsteamboat6393
      @puddingcatsteamboat6393 4 месяца назад

      i think they noticed they just ignored it so they won’t get cancelled 😂

    • @musashidanmcgrath
      @musashidanmcgrath 3 месяца назад +12

      ​@@snakedogmanWhat exactly seemed 'racist' to you, that a Japanese person has the same names as Japanese companies that are named after those people with those names? How tf is that 'racist' in any way? I just don't understand this ridiculous thinking?

    • @Sandlund93
      @Sandlund93 3 месяца назад

      @@musashidanmcgrath Stop being racist, you racist. Things are enough racist as it is. Are you getting the sarcasm yet?

    • @rylanlittle261
      @rylanlittle261 3 месяца назад

      Lol

  • @Yarblocosifilitico
    @Yarblocosifilitico 4 месяца назад +175

    the 'princesses should not be married off like cattle' trope is so overdone.
    We're talking about times when the average life expectancy was around 30 y.o. and war/raids were a constant thing. If marrying solidifies an alliance and prevents future wars, YES IT'S ABSOLUTELY YOUR DAMN DUTY TO GO THROUGH WITH IT, effin spoiled royal brat...

    • @unitron2005
      @unitron2005 4 месяца назад +42

      30 year old average life expectancy did not mean that most people only lived to be 30. It meant that many died as babies, which dragged the average down to 30, but if you survived the baby phase, you were pretty likely to live for much much longer than 30.
      But other than that, yes, you are very much correct and they get this wrong every damn time.

    • @Herr_Affe
      @Herr_Affe 4 месяца назад +23

      Right. And that's not to mention child mortality. You'd be lucky to have 3 out 10 children make it to adult life. But sure, just completely ignore your duty because you want to swing a sword instead.

    • @odyssey2548
      @odyssey2548 4 месяца назад +31

      The others have spoken about the child life expectancy so I won't. But add to this situation where a literal fallen angel and man eating orcs are out for the entire species. Marriage won't hurt

    • @Yarblocosifilitico
      @Yarblocosifilitico 4 месяца назад +5

      @@unitron2005 not that much longer. I'm just guessing but probably 50, 60 at best. And child mortality wasn't the only thing that dragged the average to 30 (or whatever it actually was). Plenty of deseases, labor accidents, soldiering...

    • @somechinesedude5466
      @somechinesedude5466 4 месяца назад

      ​if anybody is interested in how marriage is all about business & stuff in anime format
      Watch kusuriya no hitorigoto / apotechary diary, its about a girl boss who know her place & enjoy her role, a slave

  • @Neonsilver13
    @Neonsilver13 4 месяца назад +57

    I felt like Éowyn disguising herself as a man and fighting in the war in "the Lord of the Rings" was supposed to be a big deal, this kind of undermines her story a lot. I mean, nope you aren't fighing, women don't fight, even though we had this badass princess two hundred years ago.

    • @sgtjericho7884
      @sgtjericho7884 4 месяца назад +8

      Shieldmaidens are referred to multiple times during the War of the Ring. Eowyn disguising herself was unusual because it had not been done in a long time, not because it didn't have precedence

    • @Sandlund93
      @Sandlund93 3 месяца назад +2

      It works against its own canon, it's the same thing with Disney Star Wars. Because it's all about milking the IP, not what the milk tastes like.

    • @durrangodsgrief6503
      @durrangodsgrief6503 3 месяца назад +1

      @@sgtjericho7884 or could be an extremely rare to nonexistent if their was precedent she wouldn't have to disguise herself

    • @Artanis99
      @Artanis99 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@@durrangodsgrief6503 She had to disguise herself because neither Theoden nor Eomer would have let her to ride with them otherwise.
      Both of them had inkling that riding to help Gondor will be a one-way trip and wanted to protect her. Neither them or people of Rohan didn't doubt either her capabilities or role (at least in the books).
      Also Eowyn at that point was pretty much suicidal and was only seeking glorious death and only by falling for Faramir was that desire alleviated.
      In Numenor and later Gondor and Arnor it was against custom (though there was a time when Numenor had ruling queens until the last king of Numenor usurped and against custom married his cousin). Rohirrim had Shieldmaidens as a rare custom however at the end of the third age it was mostly a thing of past and don't forget that Theoden was raised in Gondor for a time so he had learned some of Gondor customs.

  • @hcook1023
    @hcook1023 4 месяца назад +70

    Any normal commoner in the feudal age would have killed to be a noble even if there was an arranged marriage

    • @John21WoW
      @John21WoW 4 месяца назад +11

      So true, that is literally how like 90% of "new" noble houses were made, a commoner footman or squire would achieve great feats of glory, combat, maybe save the king or other high ranking noble in battle and he would be made a small knight or small nobleman title and from there he would just keep going up the chain of nobility...

    • @wedgeantilles8575
      @wedgeantilles8575 4 месяца назад +4

      Actually, most marriaged were arranged.
      No matter if you were a prince or princess, a farmers boy or daughter or a merchants boy or daughter.
      You married somebody whose connections were beneficial to your buisness, who brought wealth...
      Love marriages did basically not exists for almost all of time, it started roughly 100 years ago.
      (Well, and look how this turned out...)

  • @ernievzla
    @ernievzla 4 месяца назад +53

    you can see the face of disappointment in Gary's face
    after years of mediocrity... there's always hope, only to be crushed once more

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 4 месяца назад +3

      Getting used to disappointment and mediocrity is TIGHT!

    • @Sandlund93
      @Sandlund93 3 месяца назад +2

      I learned years ago that it was gonna be animated. That's when I checked out. I might as well rewatch the movies from the 70s.

  • @macbrown99
    @macbrown99 4 месяца назад +168

    My real question is why did this have to be Lord of the Rings at all? I'm sure it will be a fine enough fantasy movie with a hot redhead warrior princess but in what way does this look or feel like LotR?

    • @Krysnha
      @Krysnha 4 месяца назад +33

      Because if it is made independent or an independent crap, they would watch one episode see is a bait and switch and watch no more being lord of the ring they would watch more, and sell

    • @joemarshallamp
      @joemarshallamp 4 месяца назад +7

      Yeah, that was my takeaway from the trailer.

    • @Herr_Affe
      @Herr_Affe 4 месяца назад +37

      Name recognition. It looked a bit generic to me, even with the LOTR name attached to it.

    • @NorthInium
      @NorthInium 4 месяца назад +24

      Because they want the name tagged onto it and milk lotr reputation...

    • @thegodofsoapkekcario1970
      @thegodofsoapkekcario1970 4 месяца назад +7

      That’s my biggest issue in all of the trailers, more than Hera’s character because they can at least do something with her, but the designs just feel like generic fantasy.

  • @theresem754
    @theresem754 4 месяца назад +38

    I don't think filmmakers realise how damaging the "girl boss" picture is. A woman can not be as physically strong as a man who trains. Giving young girls the impression that they can fight their way through everything is not only setting them up to fail, it's giving them a false sense of security around men who do want to hurt them and take advantage of them. This is why classic faery tales worked so well: they taught feminine strengths of kindness, forgiveness, and nurturing others instead of lying to girls and telling them they're just like men.

    • @snakedogman
      @snakedogman 4 месяца назад +8

      kindness, forgiveness and carrying pepperspray.

    • @user-cd6dd3ye8k
      @user-cd6dd3ye8k 3 месяца назад

      Its supposed to be a hero/heroine story. Every hero from Gilgamesh on to Rambo could be accused of giving BOYS the wrong idea and setting up to fail.
      The whole point of it was to see who was stupid enough to fall for it and help improve the gene pool by removing the idiots who would swallow crap like this.

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 4 месяца назад +84

    There’s dust coming out of this udder

  • @LoxleyLockwood
    @LoxleyLockwood 3 месяца назад +10

    6:28 As Nerdrotic said:
    In the lore, there was an invasion of Rohan, done by the Dunlendings and the Corsairs of the south (Umbar possibly), that were allied with the Dunlendings. Obviously no Olliphants because Corsairs dont have them. The lands of Harad were simply divided in half - coastal lands and regions were controlled by the colonies of Black Númenoreans and the Corsairs with their black ships, while inland was owned and settled by various Haradrim kingdoms, principalities and chiefdoms, which of course includes the Múmakil tribes that rode with the Oliphants.
    Eagles also did not appear at all. It was just the Rohirrim vs Dunlendings and their Corsair allies until the Corsairs left (dunno why) and the Dunlendings were defeated without their help, pushed back into the old Dunland (which is eastern Enedwaith essentialy).
    Speaking of which, there were many nations and clans of the Northmen...ranging from Rhovanion to Dale over to Anduin etc, but as far as i know, the Eorlingas of Rohan were ONLY blonde (dirty, normal or gold-like), so no redheads.
    P.S: Hera is a greek name, lol. And Helm's daughter had never her name mentioned. Only his sons were.

  • @2Hats74
    @2Hats74 4 месяца назад +135

    Apparently the Japanese version of this trailer has way less Girlbossery. Editing trailers is an art in and of itself. Is it a girl boss movie, or did idiots in Hollywood cut the trailer to look like that because they thought that’s what their bosses wanted? Won’t really know till we see the show.

    • @ukmediawarrior
      @ukmediawarrior 4 месяца назад +32

      If you read what Phillipa Boyens, the producer, has said Hera is the protagonist in the movie, it revolves around her.

    • @EnsignRedshirtRicky
      @EnsignRedshirtRicky 4 месяца назад +52

      It means that they cut the girlboss crap out of the Japanese trailer to screw them over. They were more honest with us, though they probably are deluded enough to think it will make us want to see it.

    • @riceareyummy7283
      @riceareyummy7283 4 месяца назад +20

      Yeah, I'm just gonna re watch Frieren it's way more Tolkenish, than the Amazon stuff.

    • @kwangsoo515
      @kwangsoo515 4 месяца назад +14

      It would be funny if the Japanese localized it and changed the dialogue to suit them.

    • @jamesstewart8376
      @jamesstewart8376 4 месяца назад +2

      Just watched it, still comes through.

  • @hoodedwizard4695
    @hoodedwizard4695 4 месяца назад +8

    As usual, they cant have a conflict be grounded.
    "We gotta have the eagles, the elephants, and the watcher from the movies too! To hell with the lore!"

  • @Yarblocosifilitico
    @Yarblocosifilitico 4 месяца назад +142

    Theory is there like 'what's this LotR things they're so invested about?? Is it like Star Wars in the Middle Ages??'

    • @SlavicHavoc
      @SlavicHavoc 4 месяца назад +40

      "So, the ring has the Force?"

    • @Herr_Affe
      @Herr_Affe 4 месяца назад +16

      Pretty much, but there's Orcs instead of Gungans.

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 4 месяца назад +7

      [says something disobliging in Kuzdal] "No, that's wasn't Wookie, Theory."

    • @PaulusAlone
      @PaulusAlone 4 месяца назад

      It kinda is like Star Wars in the Middle Ages now that you mention it though?
      😅

    • @rileyellis5951
      @rileyellis5951 4 месяца назад

      ​@@PaulusAlone No, it's really not.

  • @beatgu
    @beatgu 4 месяца назад +35

    RED ALERT!!! RED ALERT!!!
    DRINKER SAID AN ANIME GIRL IS HOT!!! WE GOT HIM BOIS HE'S ONE OF US!!!

  • @ukmediawarrior
    @ukmediawarrior 4 месяца назад +86

    Ok, so basically this is the Disney Princess movie Brave, just placed in Middle Earth?

    • @Brandon.Andrews
      @Brandon.Andrews 4 месяца назад +9

      Exactly. I'm sure when they were writing the script they called her "Merida, to be renamed" because the story is basically Brave.

    • @unitron2005
      @unitron2005 4 месяца назад +19

      Except in Brave, Merida "saves the day" by admitting that it was all her fault, and not by stabbing eveyrone to death.
      Don't expect that in this one.

    • @MaryRohwer
      @MaryRohwer 4 месяца назад +3

      @@unitron2005 I really like Merida. Having a teenage daughter who turns her Mom into a bear---I totally relate.

    • @sunsin1592
      @sunsin1592 4 месяца назад +2

      With crappy Japanese animation.

    • @AxenfonKlatismrek
      @AxenfonKlatismrek 4 месяца назад +3

      To be fair on Brave, Merida is still likable, she accepts being princess, but doesn't like all the manners around it. Her arc was basically learning more humility.
      Don't know if they'll do justice in WOTR, give it a try.

  • @frankvandorp2059
    @frankvandorp2059 4 месяца назад +7

    Peter Jackson: "what if we do the Hobbit again, but make Tauriel the main character this time?"

  • @bdbd1390
    @bdbd1390 4 месяца назад +66

    I was excited for the first half of the trailer and then i went oh no 😂

    • @joemarshallamp
      @joemarshallamp 4 месяца назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @Mikhael366
      @Mikhael366 4 месяца назад +10

      I initially stopped the video at that moment and just checked out😂

    • @Chris-gw2xg
      @Chris-gw2xg 4 месяца назад +1

      Same lol

  • @weareharbinger914
    @weareharbinger914 4 месяца назад +25

    To be fair, she could absolutely be the fastest rider they have, because shed be the lightest. That is why jockeys are all small after all.
    However, in a fight, being light is not typically a benefit, as you're easier to throw around, or on horseback, easier to unhorse, etc.
    I'm not sure i buy this chick fighting an oliphant on her own though.

    • @sgtjericho7884
      @sgtjericho7884 4 месяца назад +2

      If she's fast and can spook it, which wasn't hard historically with war elephants, I see it being plausible. Elephants aren't fast creatures, and we have seen nothing to indicate Oliphants are much faster or smarter.
      Also as someone pointed out to me, she might also have a Mearas, which could easily make her the fastest rider as well

    • @musashidanmcgrath
      @musashidanmcgrath 3 месяца назад

      Except all the fastest and most successful jockeys in history are men.

    • @user-cd6dd3ye8k
      @user-cd6dd3ye8k 3 месяца назад

      Thats why BOYS were used. Not women.

  • @christianefiorito3204
    @christianefiorito3204 4 месяца назад +20

    She is unnamed daughter of Helm Hammerhand, before it was called the Suthburg

  • @captaindropkik
    @captaindropkik 4 месяца назад +11

    I love Theory he's so innocent hahaha
    "she's the Gollum creature!?"

  • @justhereforthetragedy
    @justhereforthetragedy 4 месяца назад +36

    Oh, it's just the 72564726th time they're doing the "girl boss that don't need no man"! How refreshing...

  • @emreeren13
    @emreeren13 4 месяца назад +7

    Theoden: "The Hornburg has never fallen to assault."
    (Trailer proceeds to show how it was fallen to assault.)
    I'm getting Ki-Adi-Mundis "Siths and extinct for a millennium" vibes here.

  • @Peter_Morris
    @Peter_Morris 4 месяца назад +22

    I’m only referring to him as “Rudley” from now on.
    In fact, I’m imagining a version of Ridley from Metroid with a tophat, monocle, and impeccable mustache named Rudley.

    • @georgeray1906
      @georgeray1906 4 месяца назад

      I wonder if Rudley would be fear in Metroid for wit and snark?

  • @medigoomnis
    @medigoomnis 3 месяца назад +9

    If this girl girlbossing was canon, itd really make Eowyn's story seem completely pointless. Why would a woman fighting be so unheard of in two towers if a generation ago, one saved the country? Of all the locations to pick a girlboss story, this is quite possibly the most damaging.

    • @jeremygeller9145
      @jeremygeller9145 3 месяца назад

      Wait it was only a generation ago? I thought it might atleast be several hundred years ago enough that people may have forgotten about it

  • @concertunes156
    @concertunes156 4 месяца назад +26

    FWIW, the Japanese trailer does not have the emphasis on the nameless daughter, and actually shows us Haleth and Hama, Helm's sons who were killed in the war. So who knows?

    • @jamesrichards2442
      @jamesrichards2442 4 месяца назад +25

      The Japanese are being baited and switched by the shows western writer and producers.

    • @concertunes156
      @concertunes156 4 месяца назад +4

      @@jamesrichards2442 Yeah, that's what concerns me.

    • @davidgantenbein9362
      @davidgantenbein9362 4 месяца назад +3

      Well, the scenes are clearly in the movie or how else could they be used in the trailer? So yeah, the Japanese will get a rude awakening if they watch the movie.

    • @JonathanTaylor85
      @JonathanTaylor85 3 месяца назад +3

      @@jamesrichards2442 that's what it's looking like. The plot supposedly got leaked, and it was essentially Hammerhand doesn't listen to his daughter, makes mistakes, she girl bosses, etc.

  • @aric117
    @aric117 3 месяца назад +1

    “I’m the fastest rider you have!” Was absolutely a call back to Arwen in the Fellowship film.

  • @ChiChiLand299
    @ChiChiLand299 4 месяца назад +49

    In the actual story her cousin becomes king after her father and her brothers die in the war so I think with her they're probably going to Aragorn her where she's like oh instead of becoming Queen she's just going to go off and travel the world trying to protect Middle Earth as like a ranger or something on many adventures kind of stuff lol

    • @user-cd6dd3ye8k
      @user-cd6dd3ye8k 3 месяца назад

      So gets her entire family killed, her kingdom ruined, her people homeless, and her response is to go on a vacation/roadtrip.
      For fuck sake, I'm an actual misogynist an even I think that is too much.

  • @PirateKingBoros
    @PirateKingBoros 4 месяца назад +6

    I also love how insanely stupid her name is.
    Like… you have so much potential with how much of a blank slate her character is and you settle on… Hera?

  • @gabrielhedin1697
    @gabrielhedin1697 4 месяца назад +65

    You can always watch the trilogy again. :)

    • @RivarohaT
      @RivarohaT 4 месяца назад +11

      Just had. Night marathon at the cinema. Director's cut. Great thing.

    • @Funinightmare
      @Funinightmare 4 месяца назад +8

      The extended cut Trilogy. To be exact

    • @rozu7772
      @rozu7772 4 месяца назад +1

      If my family still had the extended editions I do so more often. My father got the Blu-ray director's cut and tossed out the extended editions a few years back. It might look better but it's just not the same. 😮‍💨

    • @malakianknight
      @malakianknight 4 месяца назад +1

      💯💯💯💯💯

    • @reek4062
      @reek4062 4 месяца назад

      You like to watch Jackson defile LotR?

  • @Gillymonster18
    @Gillymonster18 3 месяца назад +2

    Best part of the trailer:
    Theory: “Hehe…Cox.”
    Drinker: “Ha-HA! Sterling input, sir.”

  • @Yarblocosifilitico
    @Yarblocosifilitico 4 месяца назад +44

    'mEmBeeRrr ThISsSSsS????

  • @sparks6177
    @sparks6177 4 месяца назад +4

    That thumbnail made me think of anime like moribito, which might be for the best since rewatching that will be far better than giving this show the time of day

  • @dannyakins8742
    @dannyakins8742 4 месяца назад +32

    "I'm the fastest rider you have"
    Me: Doesn't make you a warrior tho

    • @MajorSmurf
      @MajorSmurf 4 месяца назад +8

      To add to that she might just have the fastest horse... or like you're not wearing any armour or carrying luggage so you are lighter and easier for the horse to carry. Generally riders have little influence on how fast their horse can go... like it's the same as a gym teacher telling you to run faster... the slow kids aren't going to run much faster when their muscles aren't strong enough. If a horses speed was determined by riders than only the best jockers would be winning horse races and there will be little to no focus on how well breed and trained the horse is.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 4 месяца назад +1

      @@MajorSmurf Well said

    • @daviddiggens8841
      @daviddiggens8841 4 месяца назад

      Jockeys are faster riders because they're lighter people and I'm going to assume princess girlbossa here is not exactly 20 stone.
      And as someone else pointed out she might have the best horse on top of that.
      Fastest rider is not the same as best rider

    • @user-cd6dd3ye8k
      @user-cd6dd3ye8k 3 месяца назад

      @@daviddiggens8841 Who the hell gave the best horse to a princess? That would be as idiotic as Lubu giving Red Hare to Diaochan.

  • @superman6468
    @superman6468 3 месяца назад +1

    I love how Mumakil (Oliphaunt) are in this movie even though the Easterlings and the Dunedain (the people who fought Helm Hammerhand at helms deep) didn’t even use them and didn’t even have access to them. Only the Haradrim used the Mumakil.

  • @Herr_Affe
    @Herr_Affe 4 месяца назад +37

    - A female lead in the age of immoral girlbosses.
    - The character has been assigned deeds and traits that are inconsistent with the source material.
    Now where have I seen that before? 🤔

    • @snakedogman
      @snakedogman 4 месяца назад +2

      These days it's more like "where *haven't* I seen this before?"

    • @GameFreakSucks
      @GameFreakSucks 3 месяца назад

      Guyladriel

  • @irena4545
    @irena4545 4 месяца назад +5

    FFS, I wish people stopped using "there was an invasion" as an excuse for the mumaks! Mumaks are from the South. Rohan was attacked from the east as a feint to draw away their armies, and even with Gondor occupied by Corsair attacks along all of its coasts, there is no way a fleet could transport mumaks upriver, or Gondor just letting them walk all the way up across their territory, so the east attacks must have been the tribes from the East, aka, no mumaks. Then there was an overwhelming attack from the West, which is when Edoras was taken, and that was led by Wulf and consisted of the Dunlendings bolstered by the enemies of Gondor who landed in the mouths of Isen and Lefnui. Now, _these_ guys could have been the Haradrim, but don't tell me they bothered to transport mumaks along the whole effing coast of Gondor when the same outcome could have been achieved by simply taking more men, without all the logistics and other issues of trasporting giant elephants for hundreds of miles on the sea! The mumak is the same unbased memberberry as the great eagle.

  • @0bserver249
    @0bserver249 4 месяца назад +111

    Two words: Girl Boss!

    • @KendrickEdits
      @KendrickEdits 4 месяца назад +7

      Hey you respect her now because she has a tempest in her

    • @0bserver249
      @0bserver249 4 месяца назад +2

      @@KendrickEdits lol

    • @oner64
      @oner64 4 месяца назад

      Two words: Kenji Kamiyama

    • @0bserver249
      @0bserver249 4 месяца назад +1

      A good director as far as I can see but many have fallen into following 'the message' but let's see when it comes out and how it actually is.

    • @AxenfonKlatismrek
      @AxenfonKlatismrek 4 месяца назад

      Give it a try. As far as the trailer goes, she's very likable and has humility, something Guyladriel DOESN'T have

  • @drowningpooralice5505
    @drowningpooralice5505 4 месяца назад +1

    This character isn't even named her entire literary existence is less than a paragraph. Helm Hammerhand is an amazing character that needed his story told, the story of Helms Deep.

  • @madcapmakov2
    @madcapmakov2 4 месяца назад +44

    The Hobbit trailers were never that milk-heavy…Except the use of Pippin’s song from ROTK in the third Hobbit trailer.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 4 месяца назад +3

      True. Even The Hobbit Trailers were epic and the movies were decent, at least.

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 4 месяца назад +1

      Heck, The Battle for The Five Amies Teaser trailer is still good, IMO

    • @mhouse1712
      @mhouse1712 4 месяца назад

      Speaking of "milk heavy", those tits...Still, to hell with the idiotic "girl bosses".

  • @MrTekhnical
    @MrTekhnical 4 месяца назад +7

    December is a packed month. Can't wait. But lets be honest. Sonic The Hedgehog 3 is going to dominate in December.

    • @Sandlund93
      @Sandlund93 3 месяца назад

      I might have cared. If I was 5 years old.

    • @MrTekhnical
      @MrTekhnical 3 месяца назад

      @@Sandlund93 you can enjoy it regardless of age.

  • @BartAllen
    @BartAllen 4 месяца назад +29

    *Curious why they didn't focus on Helm or Hama, heck even Haleth (who we know a reasonable amount of, especially the former) instead of creating a virtually new character given we know nothing (not even a name) with his daughter? ~ We'd had created characters from Lurtz and Tauriel before, but never as a main character ~ Don't believe this was a wise decision, as it sets a dangerous precedent ~* The inclusion of Oliphaunts is intriguing, too, especially pre-War of the Ring ~ The only reference we know of them - prior to those events - was when Sam makes mentions of Haradwaith and Oliphaunts in the tales of the past (which could suggest Hobbits had ventured to Harad during the First Age, though we know Hobbits migrated from Rhun during the Eldar Days to the West, according to Tolkien ~ The former point would also be a reference to when Earendil (Elrond's father) ventures to Haradwaith and encounters the pygmies and battles Ungoliant within the Book of Lost Tales ~ *Vinland Saga should have been an influence* ~

    • @beowulfsrevenge4369
      @beowulfsrevenge4369 4 месяца назад +3

      @BartAllen It's possible that the Oliphants were there, Wulf did ally himself with the Easterling and other enemies of Gondor and Rohan.
      Now, why the watcher in the water is in the trailer makes zero sense. The Watcher was supposed to be a creature driven out of the depths of Moria by something far worse.

    • @colinbielat8558
      @colinbielat8558 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@beowulfsrevenge4369 except this conflict was during the long winter, there was no way mumkal could be sustained when for a whole eighteen months middle earth is subjected to cold and snow, how do you feed such beast when Rohan itself has only grasslands as vegetation. You cannot.

    • @beowulfsrevenge4369
      @beowulfsrevenge4369 4 месяца назад

      @colinbielat8558 Maybe it was early in the campaign, and they hadn't had the severe temperatures and lack of supplies?
      I do agree though a oliphant would be really difficult to feed and keep to keep alive in Rohan, especially during such a bad winter.

    • @Cancoillotteman
      @Cancoillotteman 4 месяца назад +4

      The Easterlings of this war are direct descendants of the charriot riders. It would make much more sense (and variety) of depicting them as such.

    • @colinbielat8558
      @colinbielat8558 4 месяца назад +2

      @@beowulfsrevenge4369 it still would not have been haradriam, harad is south of gondor so in order for them to attack Rohan they would need to go through either ithillen, which at the time still was settled by gondor or around mordor, the only force that can attack from the east are from rhun, the descendents of the wainriders and other Easterling races like the balchoth so no mumkal.

  • @TDMHeyzeus
    @TDMHeyzeus 3 месяца назад

    6:20 I'm fairly sure the source text mentions that 'enemies' came up from the south to attack Rohan (presumably connected to the cosairs who were harrassing Gondor at the time), although sailing an olyphant to Rohan sounds a bit unrealistic.

  • @AtariDad
    @AtariDad 4 месяца назад +18

    If nothing else, at least Kenji Kamiyami has _finally_ ended his love affair with 3D animation and gone back to his roots.

    • @AtariDad
      @AtariDad 4 месяца назад +1

      @@solarydays 3D animation has always had _some_ presence in his works since Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex where it was used for backgrounds, cars, and mecha. The problem is that in his recent works like Ghost in the Shell: SAC_2045 and Bladerunner: Black Lotus, he went all in on it. I don't know if Kamiyami finally realized that the fans prefer the classic 2D look or if the studio insisted upon it because they know it's popular with anime fans, but I'm glad that he's not using that awkward and lifeless looking animation style for this project.

  • @evanburrows1697
    @evanburrows1697 3 месяца назад +2

    Theory's oblivious bemusement reminded me of an episode of South Park where all the kids in school are larping as LOTR characters, and then one kid is just there in a stormtrooper mask. 🤣

  • @AldrickExGladius
    @AldrickExGladius 4 месяца назад +28

    4:02 I KNEW GARY WAS GONNA DO IT!
    I was waiting for it.

    • @piotrswat169
      @piotrswat169 4 месяца назад +8

      That’s a reaction of a man who truly cares.

  • @skjaldulfr
    @skjaldulfr 3 месяца назад +1

    The Appendices might say the Haradrim allied with the Dunlendings, but I don't think they said there was an oliphaunt necessarily.

  • @the6ig6adwolf
    @the6ig6adwolf 4 месяца назад +32

    He-man Revelations bait and switch.

  • @CellStudios55
    @CellStudios55 4 месяца назад +2

    Gary is so damn proud of knowing those books by heart

  • @colinwest3301
    @colinwest3301 4 месяца назад +68

    I though this girl boss crap was over? Not so far.

    • @gnarwhal7562
      @gnarwhal7562 4 месяца назад +14

      We're still in a holdover period where projects greenlit back in 2020 are just now seeing the light of day. It's gonna be another few years of this at least

    • @colinwest3301
      @colinwest3301 4 месяца назад

      @@gnarwhal7562 who is that news too?🤣🤣

    • @oner64
      @oner64 4 месяца назад

      You know Kenji Kamiyama is also the guy behind ghost in the shell right? Are you saying major makoto is a girl boss?

    • @justsomeguy9280
      @justsomeguy9280 4 месяца назад

      Why do strong women scare you?

    • @MrsMacLover
      @MrsMacLover 4 месяца назад +1

      but Damsel was such a roaring success /s

  • @jasonvaughn4886
    @jasonvaughn4886 2 месяца назад

    Hey everyone, don't forget there's Nosferatu being released on Christmas. It has a terrific cast (Bill Skarsgard, Nicholas Hoult and others of course). It's the remake of the 1922 German film Nosferatu which is considered one of the most important films of all time. I think that alone makes it worth checking out !

  • @beroyblinkins1621
    @beroyblinkins1621 4 месяца назад +23

    let me guess she is his fastest rider, best swords person, best archer ect. They really was like " Ya will just put red headed Rey Skywalker into lord of the rings, that's what people want".

    • @sheikyerbouti39
      @sheikyerbouti39 4 месяца назад +8

      How dare you call her Rey Skywalker haha. She's a filthy Palpy. Or better yet, nothing at all.

    • @sijul6483
      @sijul6483 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@sheikyerbouti39
      "Who are you?"
      "Rey."
      "Rey who?"
      "Rey."

    • @daviddiggens8841
      @daviddiggens8841 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@sijul6483I prefer my head canon ending:
      "Who are you"
      "Rey.... Ray palpatine"
      "Palpatine...!?! As in the Emperor palpatine?...
      SHE'S A WITCH! BURN HER!"
      "Nooooooooooo!"

    • @AxenfonKlatismrek
      @AxenfonKlatismrek 4 месяца назад

      Hey, at least the trailers make her seem likable, like some humility. unlike the OTHER ONE!
      "THERE IS A TEMPEST IN ME!"
      or should i translate it:
      "I HAVE AN EXPLODING DIARRHEA"

  • @Phaota
    @Phaota 4 месяца назад +5

    Guys, you need to watch the Japanese version of the preview. The princess daughter role isn't as promote in it. The American preview seems to have been edited to be girl boss in design, but it might not be.

    • @MoyosoreOgunbiyi
      @MoyosoreOgunbiyi 4 месяца назад +4

      It's because of different audience markets to different marketing sensibilities.
      Like how T'challa's face was Masked in the Black Panther Chinese Poster or How Finn's profile was almost completely hidden away in the Chinese Last Jedi Poster.
      They are simply marketing based on what they think their audiences want to see.
      To the Eastern audience, it's trying to appeal with the themes of War and Feudalism.
      To the Western Audiences, it's trying to appeal about the strong female lead character that is supposedly essential to the plot.
      Hard to be convinced otherwise based on Trailer differences when everything shown in the both trailers are actually in the movie regardless. 🤷

    • @user-cd6dd3ye8k
      @user-cd6dd3ye8k 3 месяца назад

      @@MoyosoreOgunbiyi Nah. Its the racism.

    • @MoyosoreOgunbiyi
      @MoyosoreOgunbiyi 3 месяца назад

      @@user-cd6dd3ye8k To a lesser extent. But the main point still stands.
      Foreign markets treat and market foreign films differently compared to their local socio-cultural entertainment.
      In Germany, at one point (though I'm not sure if it's still in effect) any video game that depicts blood has to be colored green instead of red.
      Or how in Muslim countries, even films about the Prophet Muhammad never show the face of the actor and he is always shown interacting with other characters from a first person perspective.
      But Jesus however...? 🤷

  • @starrage7926
    @starrage7926 4 месяца назад +38

    If this turns out to be some super girl boss who saves the day, it will not make sense. Otherwise Eomer wouldn't give that speach to Eowyn in the trilogy, as Eowyn would be able to reference this girl boss. Hope i am wrong but alarm bells are ringing for me.

    • @snakedogman
      @snakedogman 4 месяца назад +1

      lol do you think they care about such consistency? Girlboss is what they want, and girlboss is what they will produce.

    • @starrage7926
      @starrage7926 4 месяца назад

      ​@@snakedogman sadly, I don't think youvare wrong.

    • @AxenfonKlatismrek
      @AxenfonKlatismrek 4 месяца назад

      Judging by the trailers, she seems likable and it has potential to tell a good story. I'll give it a try, maybe they'll do justice, maybe not.

    • @victorarmandoneis
      @victorarmandoneis 14 дней назад +1

      Éomer and Éowyn were arguing about Merry, a hobbit male. When he claimed war to be the province of Men, he meant the race of Men. It had nothing to do with the sex.

  • @matthewchandler7845
    @matthewchandler7845 4 месяца назад +4

    2:34 Remember how WE didn't make this and how great it was....NOW GET READY FOR OUR CASH IN!!!!! YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! About a girl who was given NO NAME because she was SOOOOOO INFLUENTIAL!?!?!?!?!? YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

  • @nickd6303
    @nickd6303 4 месяца назад +3

    It feels more like a fire emblem cutscene than any thing related to lord of the rings.

  • @vampirefrompluto9788
    @vampirefrompluto9788 4 месяца назад +1

    6:40 I think they are using Eowyn's lines from Two Towers about women of Rohan being trained with swords as a basis for this.

  • @miwe3719
    @miwe3719 4 месяца назад +15

    The fastest rider??? You mean you have the fastest horse? Lol

    • @beowulfsrevenge4369
      @beowulfsrevenge4369 4 месяца назад +1

      @miwe3719 She's also probably a lot smaller than a man, which would be an easier thing for a horse to carry. This is why jockeys are ideally as small as possible.
      Edit: But being the daughter of Helm, there's no way she'd be sent by herself as a messenger. She's far too important for that.

    • @guyincognito1406
      @guyincognito1406 4 месяца назад +6

      Yeah if micro seconds are a concern in a short race. Ffs you’re a hat to a horse.

  • @trequor
    @trequor 3 месяца назад +1

    That collective sigh though

  • @thehelmethead4883
    @thehelmethead4883 3 месяца назад +7

    Fun Fact: In the video game Shadow of War (not canon) we also get different retelling of Helm HammerHands story. In the video game we defeat the ring wraiths, and get a cutscene of their lives, one of them is Helm.
    In the cutscene Helm falls ill in his old age, and accepted one of the nine rings of men from Sauron believing it a gift that'll heal him. He gets more than better and his great strength is returned, but over time the ring starts to take over his mind making him more violent & erratic. At some point his daughter is captured by the wildlings, and he goes with his best men to confront Wulf, when he discovers that his daughter eloped with Wulf he tries to kill him, but ends up accidently killing his daughter instead when she stepped in between them. After killing Wulf; and his men that try to stop him during his episode, he blames their deaths on the wildlings and supposedly the rest of the story plays out, him going on solo night hunts for wildlings .
    That retelling and now this trailer just solidifies my belief that it's going to be a llllooooooonnnnggg time before a proper story about a strong patriarch of a family; and a authority figure, is ever going to be told.
    It just sucks man, I had high hopes for this show knowing it was being made by Peter Jackson. I guess the most I can hope for is that they leave Helm alone and just focus on their girlboss princess.

  • @JeffreyDeCristofaro
    @JeffreyDeCristofaro 3 месяца назад +1

    It could go either way. I am cautiously optimistic - at least the animated style is a new approach. I wonder if Ralph Bakshi would approve...

  • @tedcruz212
    @tedcruz212 3 месяца назад +3

    At least she’s a redhead, can’t wait for the live action adaptation where they make her black

  • @darthcalanil5333
    @darthcalanil5333 4 месяца назад

    Is the full stream ever linked anywhere?? I can't seem to find it on the channel

  • @BasicShapes
    @BasicShapes 4 месяца назад +4

    Hollywood: "Hey, y'know what would be _really_ interesting? The main character is a GIRL! 🤯🤯🤯"
    Also Hollywood: "Damn! Yeah! That's never been done before, has it?! Let's do it!"

  • @SansoHumar
    @SansoHumar 3 месяца назад

    I missed the live show. So in the rerun this wasn’t there due to copyright. Glad I get to watch it now.

  • @masterfox17
    @masterfox17 4 месяца назад +9

    A story about the badass that is Helm Hammerhand would have been awesome but no we have to have it about his daughter..sigh. Won’t be watching this

    • @user-cd6dd3ye8k
      @user-cd6dd3ye8k 3 месяца назад

      A lore acurate Helm Hammerhand would read like a Chuck Norris joke.

  • @shinaxia7474
    @shinaxia7474 4 месяца назад +1

    I compared the Japanese and American trailers and the differences are huge. In the American version, we have a typical SFL who saves the world after proudly rejecting some guy's hand. With her, no guy can compare. She alone will save the world. In the Japanese version, we have a girl who overcomes her nature and fear and undertakes a mission in which her friends support her. Not a word about how independent and strong she is. I guess it's supposed to be the same production, but you can see what the emphasis is on in the West versus the East. And anyone still surprised that people choose manga and anime over Marvel?