Excellent video. Probably the best suspension swap one I’ve seen. I’m considering fitting the B14 kit to my Golf R wagon so I’ve saved your video for later use. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Thanks so much man and I appreciate all the views. I hope it keeps growing too, but I'm running out of car money myself. (sponsors? are you listening?)
Great video! Keep them coming! I’ve learned a few tricks that might help be useful. 1) Coil noise- a bicycle inter tube keeps the coils grinding against each other. This helps a lot on progressive rate springs where there’s always coil contact. 2) Use a bottle jack separate the strut. It’s a fraction of the effort. I’ve written about this trick on the forums. 3) Protect coil over threads with Boeshield T9. One of my off-roading buddies introduced me to this trick and it’s legit.
Awesome! Send me a link to the bottle jack info - would love to read more on this. Love the bicycle tube idea - and winter is coming so i will apply some Boeshield.
@@DadWagon Specking of Dads, I learned the bicycle tube trick from my dad. He used heavy water hose to protect the coils from rock chips back in his days.
Awesome video. Thank you! . I’m in the same boat with my Mk7.5 wagon and Eibach pro kit. Debating on switching to coilovers or trying GTI lowering springs with TY rear pads. The measurements before and after are super informative 👍🏽
Well I ended up finding a set of H&R street performance coilovers. What are the final height measurements after everything is said and done? I like how your ride height is.
The new format of the video is very cool but sometimes I found myself missing the text because I was focusing on what you were doing in the video. Maybe having the text in the same place throughout the video would help, but I’m just being nit picky. Definitely better than anything I could ever put out.
I love all the constructive comments here on his new editing style. So refreshing compared to the rest of the inter-webs. I’m just floored how he finds the time to do all of this with two little ones, a job, etc.
Great suggestion Shane. I tried for the most part, but due to lighting in certain spots I needed to move it. I wish I was a better video editor. I use pretty basic software for all my editing.
Thanks Manzelli! It's true, managing all of this is an extreme balance. A big thank you to my supportive wife and most of this happens after 9pm - or when i take a day off work.
Dude. I was thinking about your noise issue. From what I read, the final torquing should be done with the car at ride height. Then when adjustments are made, the bolts should be loosened at the mounting points that have the rubber bushings. Make the height adjustments, then re-torque all bolts. Just what I’ve read!
I liked the video style change up I think there is value to both. One thing I hadn't considered when purchasing my st xa coilovers was dampening adjustability accessibility these bilsteins look great! Looking forward to next video
That was really my main driver - I mean it somewhat (not totally) makes adjustments obsolete if you can't get to them. I was really interested in the KW Street comforts, but the rear adjustment wasn't accessible.
Did you get any moaning/creaking from the strut bearing after install? I did B6 DCC, Eurosport inserts, and APR Roll control springs. Everything was torqued to spec with the suspension loaded. Same with the strut nut. No impact gun. I used a shock strut tool. Very frustrating.
Thanks for the video I am not doing the same kit but for the money I spent on kit I got it going to give them a shot! It just makes it a lot easier to know what to expect I have done a suspension before but not on a golf! I’ll let you know how it goes! 2015 GSW TDI 6 speed
@@DadWagon well started on Saturday with no spreader tool at the garage on base. Finished the front left on Saturday and they had to close so came back on Tuesday finished off all of them and now I have a binding like noise from the front right so when I take it back over to adjust tomorrow I can inspect the front right.
Love the video, the car looks amazing. I have a MK7 Sportwagen as well, and would love to do this one day. Also, what boots were you wearing in the video? Love those too!
Very, very good. I lost some of the sound, because I mute whenever the hiphop starts... but that's just me. I hope someone is sponsoring those coilovers -- they are pricey!
Really good video, I disagree though about the ride height, I think the previous height was "adult look" or European look and now it's not really slammed but lower than it should be for a daily driver it does LOOK really good (as you said that was what you're after) but for hauling stuff with partially full load it will look too low for practicality. I've got a Alltrack with "R" springs and shocks and it's 1/4" lower all around compared to your previous springs, probably due to my plastic fender moldings that make the difference? And I love the ride. I just bought the H&R Rear bar yesterday, I bought the Moog end links and the local VW Audi Porsche tuner shop said "Oh, you bought into the hype" saying that over 100 bar installs using the stock plastic end links they've only had one break and that was due to an accident. He basically said he guarantees I won't have them break. I said you've sold me and saved me the extra step of removing the bottom bolt and IF they do break I've got back-ups. He also told me to put car on drive up ramps to keep the bar loaded and removal will be easier, I'm going to shine the ramps with 2x8's for a little more clearance and drop rear of the exhaust. Your videos are very informative keep them coming.👍👍
Great. About 9 months in - no complaints.... except winter was not kind to the adjustable top hats. As expected, there is some corrosion forming - need to try a different rust proofer this coming winter.
Curious why you did not go with 2x4 wood method. Instead of taking of axle, you just jack up the shock up. Saves a bit of time. How much lower is the car compare to stock?
Don't know much about the 2x4 method. I've seen it talked about a few times... but would love to see some videos of the process. I have no idea how much lower than stock it is since i previously had the H&R springs on it.
@@DadWagon there are a few 2x4 videos showing process. I am getting ready to take on suspension so watching as many videos as I can. Came across yours and loved it. Keep going with more content.
just found your channel. love the car and great video! really appreciate all the details you include. What kind of wrap/paint do you have on your car? Cheers
Does someone installed the eurosport camber kit with KW coilovers and can confirm that it fit without opening the strut tower? Looking for more camber at the KW DCC without adding some noise or dremel metal body work.
If you had an offset wrench, you can probably tighten the top nut without cutting a little bit off the tower. The reason i cut mine is that the last thing i wanted was to be on a roadtrip or something with a coil-over top nut coming loose that I couldn't easily tighten up.
I don’t know if this is great advice, but before installing I just made sure to set all 4 to the exact same height, which was right in the middle of the thread count. I then adjusted from there.
I very much appreciate the detail of this video. I feel a little more comfortable in trying a similar install myself (and i’m no mechanic or a gearhead in any way shape or form). But I do have one question that wasn’t detailed in the process… I have H&R Sport Springs as well on my Mk7 TDI SE, they were already installed when I bought the car. Do you need to use spring compressors on even these sport springs before you remove the center bolt of the upper strut mount of the stock strut, if a person opted not to buy new upper strut mounts? Or perhaps is it best to do like you did and just buy new ones to, in my case, to avoid having to choose using spring compressors or not when removing and transferring the original factory upper strut mount (with the bonus of still having the factory strut with lowering springs still installed together, as a viable backup if your new coilover kit needs to be removed for whatever reason). Is it expensive to go your route and get new ones specifically for the Camber Kit install?
I believe i still needed to compress the springs a bit when i finally removed them from the struts (recently to sell the springs). But not 100% positive. Do you need new bearings and mounts - no. But the way i looked at it - spending this much on new shocks and springs... adding more dollars to make it all brand new was totally worth it to me.
@@DadWagon aaah I see. Well, I might just do it the way I mentioned it; essentially removing the stock setup in one piece still intact and just simply do what you did and install the Bilsteins & Camber Kit with new bearings/mount. This way the stock strut & sport spring are a fully assembled back-up suspension laying in wait in case something happens with the Bilstein/Camber combo. And as you said, new *everything* certainly makes sense, I mean why not! Anyway, thank you for your feedback DW!
conversely, how much was there left in the higher ride height direction? I'm in Wisconsin and during the winter I'm curious how much higher it could go.
:) The video isn't even a year old yet - but getting close. This suspension is amazing. A fantastic choice for my needs. The only negative is their corrosion after a single winter. I've been told some of the KW shock models have better corrosion resistance.
@@DadWagon thanks man, love the vids. Any downsides to the eurosport camber kit like noise? I'm waiting to install a set of V3s and debating if I should get those as well.
Love the video and the ride is looking awesome. I really like the editing style but agree with an earlier poster the text was sometimes tearing my attention away from what you were doing.....but a minor gripe. My biggest issue was the labatt blue, so unsubbed....... ...kidding
Excellent video. Probably the best suspension swap one I’ve seen. I’m considering fitting the B14 kit to my Golf R wagon so I’ve saved your video for later use. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Thanks so much. Not as detailed as some, but gives a good sense of what goes into doing a swap.
Looking into buying B16s for mk7.5, great video thanks for sharing!
Enjoy! and thanks for watching.
I hope your channel keeps growing man! Seriously, I've been watching all your videos to see how I am going to spend all of my money.
Thanks so much man and I appreciate all the views. I hope it keeps growing too, but I'm running out of car money myself.
(sponsors? are you listening?)
Great video! Keep them coming! I’ve learned a few tricks that might help be useful. 1) Coil noise- a bicycle inter tube keeps the coils grinding against each other. This helps a lot on progressive rate springs where there’s always coil contact. 2) Use a bottle jack separate the strut. It’s a fraction of the effort. I’ve written about this trick on the forums. 3) Protect coil over threads with Boeshield T9. One of my off-roading buddies introduced me to this trick and it’s legit.
Awesome! Send me a link to the bottle jack info - would love to read more on this. Love the bicycle tube idea - and winter is coming so i will apply some Boeshield.
@@DadWagon Specking of Dads, I learned the bicycle tube trick from my dad. He used heavy water hose to protect the coils from rock chips back in his days.
Great video! I like the new editing you did. Labatt Blue light - nice. Also....thank you for measuring center axle to lip.
I got that measuring style from you asking about the H&Rs :P and the staple beers are molson or LBL - with crafts mixed in on the weekend.
Awesome video. Thank you!
. I’m in the same boat with my Mk7.5 wagon and Eibach pro kit. Debating on switching to coilovers or trying GTI lowering springs with TY rear pads.
The measurements before and after are super informative 👍🏽
Glad I could help! Let me know how it goes!
Well I ended up finding a set of H&R street performance coilovers.
What are the final height measurements after everything is said and done? I like how your ride height is.
The new format of the video is very cool but sometimes I found myself missing the text because I was focusing on what you were doing in the video. Maybe having the text in the same place throughout the video would help, but I’m just being nit picky. Definitely better than anything I could ever put out.
I love all the constructive comments here on his new editing style. So refreshing compared to the rest of the inter-webs. I’m just floored how he finds the time to do all of this with two little ones, a job, etc.
Great suggestion Shane. I tried for the most part, but due to lighting in certain spots I needed to move it. I wish I was a better video editor. I use pretty basic software for all my editing.
Thanks Manzelli! It's true, managing all of this is an extreme balance. A big thank you to my supportive wife and most of this happens after 9pm - or when i take a day off work.
Dude. I was thinking about your noise issue. From what I read, the final torquing should be done with the car at ride height. Then when adjustments are made, the bolts should be loosened at the mounting points that have the rubber bushings. Make the height adjustments, then re-torque all bolts. Just what I’ve read!
Love this. Thanks for the tips!
Great video! Not a lot of content like this out there for mk7!
Glad you liked it! Thank you!
Once again awesome video, great information thanks you have given me some great ideas to do on MK7. I wish had the tools and equipment to do myself.
Thanks for watching Gordon, continuing to comment and share your input. It all helps me create better content as we go.
I liked the video style change up I think there is value to both. One thing I hadn't considered when purchasing my st xa coilovers was dampening adjustability accessibility these bilsteins look great! Looking forward to next video
That was really my main driver - I mean it somewhat (not totally) makes adjustments obsolete if you can't get to them. I was really interested in the KW Street comforts, but the rear adjustment wasn't accessible.
Dude it looks SICK
Did you get any moaning/creaking from the strut bearing after install? I did B6 DCC, Eurosport inserts, and APR Roll control springs. Everything was torqued to spec with the suspension loaded. Same with the strut nut. No impact gun. I used a shock strut tool. Very frustrating.
damn, that's a lot of work, great video
I liked the video! Always good content 👌🏽
Thanks for the video I am not doing the same kit but for the money I spent on kit I got it going to give them a shot! It just makes it a lot easier to know what to expect I have done a suspension before but not on a golf! I’ll let you know how it goes! 2015 GSW TDI 6 speed
let me know!
@@DadWagon well started on Saturday with no spreader tool at the garage on base. Finished the front left on Saturday and they had to close so came back on Tuesday finished off all of them and now I have a binding like noise from the front right so when I take it back over to adjust tomorrow I can inspect the front right.
Wow, great vid. Lovin the wagon! I own a alltrack 👍. If your looking to get rid of the old springs lmk.
Thanks so much!
Love the video, the car looks amazing. I have a MK7 Sportwagen as well, and would love to do this one day.
Also, what boots were you wearing in the video? Love those too!
Thanks so much man. Share some photos of the ride on IG when you have a moment.
The boots are the Nike Special Field Boots (SFBs)
Very, very good. I lost some of the sound, because I mute whenever the hiphop starts... but that's just me. I hope someone is sponsoring those coilovers -- they are pricey!
Haha. I know the music isn’t everyone’s favorite. And I wish a sponsorship was the case, but not just yet.
@@DadWagon wouldn't be a quality video if someone didn't complain about the music. Nice work man!
There was zero hip hop in this video lol music yes
Hey i have now the Same coilovers with the Standard Golf 7 gti weels and my Front dont get so love like yours ,how is your spring installed?
Really good video, I disagree though about the ride height, I think the previous height was "adult look" or European look and now it's not really slammed but lower than it should be for a daily driver it does LOOK really good (as you said that was what you're after) but for hauling stuff with partially full load it will look too low for practicality. I've got a Alltrack with "R" springs and shocks and it's 1/4" lower all around compared to your previous springs, probably due to my plastic fender moldings that make the difference? And I love the ride. I just bought the H&R Rear bar yesterday, I bought the Moog end links and the local VW Audi Porsche tuner shop said "Oh, you bought into the hype" saying that over 100 bar installs using the stock plastic end links they've only had one break and that was due to an accident. He basically said he guarantees I won't have them break. I said you've sold me and saved me the extra step of removing the bottom bolt and IF they do break I've got back-ups. He also told me to put car on drive up ramps to keep the bar loaded and removal will be easier, I'm going to shine the ramps with 2x8's for a little more clearance and drop rear of the exhaust. Your videos are very informative keep them coming.👍👍
Appreciate the thorough review and insight. I can get on board with your thoughts and I will definitely increase ride height once winter rolls to town
@@DadWagon Low is the way to go
looks great.
Thanks John!
What size mm is that top nut on the front coilover that hold the mount down
Hi,I just picked up some B14s! For my Jetta. Did you have to preload before installing? Thanks Tony
I did not.
superb video! Just one thing, music is very loud to my taste. :)
Keep up the great content! I wish I could match your production quality. Have you messed with the damping at all?
Just a weee little bit so far. Just for daily driving. Set at 3 seems to be a good daily ride. Also tried 10 which was…. Intense.
@@DadWagonmaybe the B14’s are all that’s necessary for most daily driver type scenarios. Would you agree?
Great upload. How are these Bilstein coils holding up? Setup looks very low.
Great. About 9 months in - no complaints.... except winter was not kind to the adjustable top hats. As expected, there is some corrosion forming - need to try a different rust proofer this coming winter.
@@DadWagon you mean the Eurosport camber plates?
@@ravenstylea2 no, speaking of the adjustable coilover threads
@@DadWagon Have you come up with a way to prevent corrosion of the threads? Maybe a glob of lithium grease inside a silicone cover? Remove to adjust?
Curious why you did not go with 2x4 wood method. Instead of taking of axle, you just jack up the shock up. Saves a bit of time.
How much lower is the car compare to stock?
Don't know much about the 2x4 method. I've seen it talked about a few times... but would love to see some videos of the process. I have no idea how much lower than stock it is since i previously had the H&R springs on it.
@@DadWagon there are a few 2x4 videos showing process. I am getting ready to take on suspension so watching as many videos as I can. Came across yours and loved it. Keep going with more content.
just found your channel. love the car and great video! really appreciate all the details you include. What kind of wrap/paint do you have on your car? Cheers
also just noticed the herman miller box. what'd you get?
Thanks and welcome! It's a 3M vinyl wrap in matte green.
I work for HM and it was probably our new Eames Rocking Chair for the baby - or my Cosm Chair.
Thanks for the video. After a year, how do you feel about them?
They're still going strong! sometimes I question if i should have gone with the KWs for the rust/corrosion proofing. That's the only detractor.
Great video! What jacks are they?
Thanks , they’re the QuickJack brand
Does someone installed the eurosport camber kit with KW coilovers and can confirm that it fit without opening the strut tower? Looking for more camber at the KW DCC without adding some noise or dremel metal body work.
If you had an offset wrench, you can probably tighten the top nut without cutting a little bit off the tower. The reason i cut mine is that the last thing i wanted was to be on a roadtrip or something with a coil-over top nut coming loose that I couldn't easily tighten up.
Did you ever get an alignment after the install? What camber are you achieving on the front/rear?
Any advice on where a good staring point is on the height adjustment? How many threads in front and back?
I don’t know if this is great advice, but before installing I just made sure to set all 4 to the exact same height, which was right in the middle of the thread count. I then adjusted from there.
To lower the rear are you supposed to put the locking collar and spring rate collar up or down?
Great vid! Can you tell me which model Quickjack you're using and if you've been happy with it?
It is the 5000lb unit. I love them. The air cylinders leak every so often (which assist going down) but it’s been amazing. I’m very confident in it.
Hi, may i check what click setting u are on for front and rear?
for daily driving i generally keep them at 3 or 4 all around.
How complicated is it changing the ride height? I'm in Montreal and if I get these I'll probably want to raise the height for winter...
Not complicated. But time consuming.
Adjusts in a similar way to most coilovers
I very much appreciate the detail of this video. I feel a little more comfortable in trying a similar install myself (and i’m no mechanic or a gearhead in any way shape or form). But I do have one question that wasn’t detailed in the process… I have H&R Sport Springs as well on my Mk7 TDI SE, they were already installed when I bought the car. Do you need to use spring compressors on even these sport springs before you remove the center bolt of the upper strut mount of the stock strut, if a person opted not to buy new upper strut mounts? Or perhaps is it best to do like you did and just buy new ones to, in my case, to avoid having to choose using spring compressors or not when removing and transferring the original factory upper strut mount (with the bonus of still having the factory strut with lowering springs still installed together, as a viable backup if your new coilover kit needs to be removed for whatever reason). Is it expensive to go your route and get new ones specifically for the Camber Kit install?
I believe i still needed to compress the springs a bit when i finally removed them from the struts (recently to sell the springs). But not 100% positive.
Do you need new bearings and mounts - no. But the way i looked at it - spending this much on new shocks and springs... adding more dollars to make it all brand new was totally worth it to me.
@@DadWagon aaah I see. Well, I might just do it the way I mentioned it; essentially removing the stock setup in one piece still intact and just simply do what you did and install the Bilsteins & Camber Kit with new bearings/mount. This way the stock strut & sport spring are a fully assembled back-up suspension laying in wait in case something happens with the Bilstein/Camber combo. And as you said, new *everything* certainly makes sense, I mean why not! Anyway, thank you for your feedback DW!
Great video. I recently bought a 2018 Sportwagen. What's the fb community you referred to?
VW Mk7 alltrack & Sportwagen
Did you max out the coilovers or can you go lower? I’m curious because I’m honestly trying to go more towards that slammed look.
They were not maxed out at all.
conversely, how much was there left in the higher ride height direction? I'm in Wisconsin and during the winter I'm curious how much higher it could go.
i know this video is old hopefully you respond whats your feelings on the suspension now i cant seem to find a update
:) The video isn't even a year old yet - but getting close. This suspension is amazing. A fantastic choice for my needs. The only negative is their corrosion after a single winter. I've been told some of the KW shock models have better corrosion resistance.
are you running any spacers?
10mm spacers front and back
@@DadWagon thanks man, love the vids. Any downsides to the eurosport camber kit like noise? I'm waiting to install a set of V3s and debating if I should get those as well.
@@Derek-is7um no noise issues at all with them at this point.
Why did u steer away from the springs?
Wanted Adjustability in height and stiffness. Didn’t like the rake of the car after a while. Talk about it in the video.
Love the video and the ride is looking awesome. I really like the editing style but agree with an earlier poster the text was sometimes tearing my attention away from what you were doing.....but a minor gripe. My biggest issue was the labatt blue, so unsubbed.......
...kidding
can't watch! this dude is talking about a "came ber kit"