You hurt my soul. Paarthunax is the synth dragon that the brotherhood of blades wants you to KILL. He's a chill dude and certainly not aligned with Maxon and Delphine's chapter of the Brotherhood.
Don’t forget about the best plot point in new Vegas, where Alduin asks you to receive the platinum chip, which will allow him to rule Over the imperial legion.
I really appreciate that WotC put full-art basics in these precons. It's one thing I won't need to upgrade later on if I end up really liking the deck.
like Prof said: they are maybe not the strongest of all time. But isnt this what we are sometimes even complaining about? That Powercreep is taking over? For me, the most important aspect is, that they are a full FLAVOUR-WIN. The more you know the games, the more you understand how much love and details are in there. I almost got tears when I saw the Arcane Signet. I will always remember how I kept the wedding ring in my Inventory all the time during my playthrough. Or getting an treasure (Nuka-Cap) when you sac an food token (Nuka-Cola). Or the Radiation-Mechanic. Also the art style fits Fallout 100%. Thats what is important to me. Thank you Prof. Im glad you are a true Fallout-Fan yourself. Prof.. Prof is always right..
Yeah, when I saw the Nuka Cola Machine my first thought was that it was such an awesome flavor reference to the game! Much better than just a generic Magic card with a Fallout name and art.
I'm so excited by the mutant menace deck. Payoffs for small amounts of mill is really intriguing. My only complaint is that they didn't reprint ruin crab as a mirelurk hatchling.
Honestly the best part of it to me are the rads aren't permanent so it doesn't make you a perma archenemy at the table but still allows you to have pretty explosive turns, PLUS AN INEXORABLE TIDE REPRINT PRAISE BE
@@agrape2887Rads are great because you can straight up antagonize one player or be even handed and it's not much different than mill, but with great payoffs
Would mean A LOT to me if you took a minute to watch our guide to building Three Dog, Galaxy News DJ here. There's a lot of cool insight and talk of Commander strategy: ruclips.net/video/uf3C8L1Yy2w/видео.html
Personally, I'm always happiest to see maximum variety and minimum power. It means going back and enriching old cards by way of finding new synergies instead if forcing old cards out due to power creep. Also, nicest Myriad Landscape art to date, actually feels like all 5 colors are present. Edit: Also, energy comes back in MH3, so Science! might improve drastically in þe foreseeable future
That's awesome man! My fiance's mother had a German Shepard, loved that dog. The closest I can come is that there's a little cat on "instrument of the bards" that looks like my cat
IRL, call it linguistic drift. In New Vegas, it's a why to tell who's thrown in with the Legion. Pronounced the proper way, they're with the Legion. Pronoucee like the salad, not with the Legion.
There's a ton from the dnd sets and unfinity, and if you want to dip into silver border (with permission of your playgroup) there's even more@@durttheelder4035
The Prof's picks on Card Kingdom is how I first got into commander and I really appreciate it. Really helped me learn to not just buy the most expensive deck or singles.
One thing to note about the energy deck is that there is also going to be a jeskai energy commander precon in MH3, and they've already shown that new energy cards will also be showing up in the regular set. So if you really like the energy theme and want to focus on that part of the deck, we may very well be getting a lot of new options coming up
While it is nice that their commitment to revitalizing the energy mechanic extended farther than just throwing Commander players one deck's worth of toys and leaving it at that, it feels like a shame that they just didn't want to commit fully to that playstyle in this precon. I'm not often the one to cry out "Oh, WOTC just releases half-baked products to sell you the missing pieces later", but I cannot deny that the construction of the Science! deck coupled with the abrupt release of another Commander product in the same colours released on a very short time-frame that has new, synergistic cards with the same niche mechanic, it feels like a hustle. Gives a bit of that "Congrats on buying our product, now buy the next one, you shmuck." air to it. It's not like it's the end of the world. That deck is actually pretty fun anyway. It's just that when you sell it at a premium like this and with it having a sales-pitch as strong as "The comeback of energy after 7 years", it's understandable to feel a little miffed at the fact that the energy part of the deck wound up feeling kinda underwhelming and being told that the next, premium-priced product is going to give you the solution is a bitter bit of cold comfort.
I just want to express how glad I am that I found your channel. I'm transitioning from being very invested in hearthstone and dabbling in magic arena only on occasion, to making hearthstone an occasional treat while picking up paper magic. This channel is a wealth of information and seems so welcoming and encouraging of new players. Your delivery is great and you're clearly adept at engaging your audience. Life is hard and I'm very thankful people like you exist who have such utility in making this fun, complex game easily digestible for people excited about trying a new hobby. Thanks again for being you.
Been so excited waiting for this video to come out. Been hoping to use this set to help get my Fallout-obsessed wife into MTG, so I am very happy I went with Hail Caesar now that I have watched this video! Might have to pick up the Mothman or Dogmeat deck to play against her. 🥰
I had never played a Fallout game before, but then I saw the Scrappy Survivors deck and was so excited to see a good boy commander that I bought it and started Fallout 4.
Something that should be noted about the hail Caesar deck is that the secondary commander. Mr. House, more or less doesn't work with the deck. There are a couple treasure makers and a single other dice roller. (luck bobblehead) A fun looking commander but doesn't get much from the aristocrat theme.
So far Dr.Who UB (Universe Beyond) was insanely fun since WOTC also added new Planechase cards to the decks. When it comes to Fallout decks I can't wait to get Science! because I have wanted to play a EDH Energy deck since Kaladesh, which was so long ago it feels like a fever dream... after watching the video: I still want Science! :P
I was honestly Hoping For them to become a thing in all Universes Beyond precons. I would consider buying UB precons from IPs I'm not particular fond on or interested on if I get to add that plane into my planechase deck.
The Science! deck isn't that bad. The energy synergy is indeed lacking, but in the punchy department it's no slouch! Without energy upgrades, I'd use Liberty Prime as the commander; with energy upgrades, Madison Li becomes a serius contender. The Mutant Menace is a league above, though.
I played Scrappy Survivors today at my LGS. I haven't had that much fun playing MtG since long time! Absolutely in love with Dogmeat. Recommend grabbing it!
I found this channel a while ago and I really appreciate profs approach to magic. The most important thing to him is getting the best mtg product you can get for a a reasonable price.
let's go i have the two best on the way in the mail! I did have to cave in and order on amazon though, I checked both of my lgs and they were neither taking pre orders nor sure if they would have enough of the decks, so I just took the opportunity to ensure i'd have these awesome decks to play.
Love the break down of each decks worth and value in both money and playability. Great descriptions and comparisons made to other universes beyond decks.
Thanks Prof! I've been undecided about these for a while but I'm intending to try and lure one of my best friends into playing MtG because she's a big Fallout fan!
Yes, WOTC is making some bad decisions regarding price, but those products didn't sell well enough, remember. We get 2 dozen commander decks each year nowadays, but they couldn't sell enough Spellbooks or Premium Edition Secret Lair Fetchland bundles to justify doing it once a year. And don't forget the $100 proxies that ended up in a landfill somewhere.@@Welverin
@@williamsimkulet7832 What are you talking about? Master Sets and FtV absolutely sold. Any time WotC has short printed something, stores have price gouged and still sold out and MSRP didn't mean shit. You're kidding yourself if you think WotC listing an MSRP will stop stores from jacking up prices when the opportunity presents itself. The fetchland Ultimate Edition is another thing that suffered from price gouging and was impossible to find. It was the Pathway one that didn't and it's no coincidence that was undesirable and over printed. To sum up: if demand outstrips supply, MSRP will not stop sellers from jacking up prices.
I pulled apart the science deck and remade it better with cards from Kaladesh and Aether revolt…only 27 of the original cards (not including lands but I did fudge with the lands a bit) from the precon stayed. But the fact that we got a Jeskai Energy Artifacts matter deck is the best part to me. I’m playing today and can’t wait to see how good it is
I love that you've actually played some of the games. Other reviewers were tripping and falling their way through pronunciations and completely unable to even comment on how excited they were as Fallout players.
These decks got my boyfriend to finally get into magic with the Dogmeat one. It's been EIGHT YEARS!! Never did I think I'd see the day. Thankful these decks made him "one of us" and now we have a local fourth in our playgroup :)
I bought the four pack for my girlfriend and I to enjoy. She’s never played magic but she’s a huge fallout nerd and spent over an hour looking over the cards and gushing about the fallout lore and all the details in the cards.
I will say i got into magic due to friends at college, and i now i have a few magic decks, specifically commander. I also got into fallout because of them. So it is nice to see that most of the fallout decks are good, just need to possibly be cheaper. I wanted to get scrappy surviors because dogmeat was may favorite character, and it is nice to know that it might need some upgrades. Granted, almost all of my decks are upgraded precons soooo. Yeah. I also think that some of the cards in mutant mayhem could also work in a counters deck, like rad storm. I think that while most of these decks are good, the cards they have are kinda meant to help boost other decks already made. This could be why they are not as mana heavey as other univere beyond sets.
Played the Science precon recently. While it's a little saddening to see energy not get the love it deserves as a mechanic, the deck itself pilots pretty well. What I like the most about it is that both of the commanders offer something to players new and old. Dr. Madison Lee is great for newer players, since she gives them something to do at pretty much any point in the game and is very straightforward in her design. Liberty Prime, however, is very good in the hands of an established player, as it benefits the most from someone who understands sequencing to pull off effectively. I tried the robot, and it is a blast to play.
Preordered Scrappy and Science and gonna upgrade Liberty prime to an energy/artifact theme with some blink effects to get a lot of energy. Will try to make the three dog deck in the future too!
I have played 4 matches with dog meat and have been dominant every game. I even pulled off a 1 hit kill on 5 turns with 2 lands. I doubt I’ll ever draw that well again but the deck feels really strong.
What a shame the new cards are only legal in commander. I would love to make a modern (or other 60-card) Rad deck. My playgroup might let me kitchen table it but it always feels better to work within a format.
I pre-ordered the Scrappy Survivors deck for 40€ (about 45$ i think) because Dogmeat is a good boy and deserves all the love. Jokes aside, i think that it was a good deal at that price and i am still happy about it.
Hey prof, great content as usual! I really like the rad and junk mechanics! They feel very thematic and I wish we could see them again in the future, even though I struggle to imagine this wish becoming reality. I preordered the whole lot for 180 euro, which is approximately 49 dollars per deck. Now I just hope they’ll arrive!
Place I bought from sold them at 170, which is a little over 40 dollars each. All these 50-60-80 is 100% mark up. I can't imagine the place I bought from (a large online shop) was selling at a loss.
I respect your choice, but when they inevitably make Universe Beyond: Elder scrolls, I expect to hear how you needed to get the lucky 13 chip in order to shut down the portals to Oblivion and how Mr House was cast through time and is destined to destroy the world.
Just bought all 4 for $200 at my LGS. This set may not have the best value, but I really dig the art, nostalgia, and mechanics of this set. I’ve been wanting to buy a full precon set for a while, and even bling them out with custom sleeves & deck boxes.
Not trying to ever shill for Amazon, but when these were first announced you could pre-order the set for $160~ so only about $40 a deck. I typically pre-order the Universe Beyond decks as soon as they’re announced for this reason. You can usually lock them in at $40-$45 before the secondary market gouge begins.
I really like the scavy scavenger, played against, mutant and sciencse deck. Its really fun, and they all got good flavor. I have a tendency not to upgrade my univers beyound decks😅 i like my 40k cards to stay together, and the same with my lord of the rings 😅
I literally picked up two science decks and each one was under $26. so I would say, yes and that you can definitely pick each fall adeca for a decent price. My first fallout deck was Scrappy survivors, then mutant menace and science thereafter. I think I found myself liking science more than the others. Liberty prime makes a great backup commander, especially if you have fun playing with buckle up. The two backup commanders are actually pretty identical in function. or close enough that you're not going to see much of a difference beyond one being a vehicle and the other is a creature
Ended up preordering through TCGplayer when they had the special for all 4 at like $168. Really great value imo I can’t wait till they arrive in the mail
I preordered them for a total of $170 all together as a set, so that worked out to about $42.50 per deck, and I definitely think it was worthwhile, I can sit down and play with people that haven’t played before and have a relatively similarly powered deck to play against them automatically, and I think it’s great for that, plus it’s immensely flavourful
It's always so mindblowing listening to these when it comes to pricing, just as an example, each of these decks here (norway) goes for about 79.99 USD, while a full (say MKM or Outlaw) playbooster booster box goes for 215 USD. Importing is a heck
I stumbled on magic content a couple of weeks ago and am so hooked 😅 I bought Scrappy Survivors on a whim and have been playing Arena on PC. I’m so excited to actually play in person at some point!
Thanks for the 'is it worth it' video! I always appreciate your honest opinion, even when I have already ordered produuct. I just received my decks that cost me 160 euro for all four and I'm really happy with them and excited to try them tomorrow with friends. I also can't wait to built three dog!!! I got even more excited by watching the trailer for the new Fallout series. As someone who never played the game, but appreciates the flavor on the cards, I bet the series will make me an even bigger fan of the flavor. :)
I wonder why he uses $50 when retail value for UB is $60. $50 is for normal sets. I also think that secondary commanders should always be mentioned even if they don't pilot more than the face.
Bought all the fallout commander decks (after seeing this video from the Prof.), and looking forward to unboxing and showing them off in one of my next unboxing videos.
Man, I want all of them. I feel virtually no pull to buy sealed magic products anymore, the exception being universes beyond commander precons. I wish I was this excited for the standard sets, but they just feel "thin" somehow compared to the days of three set blocks.
I got the Science deck and upgraded with energy cards from Kaladesh. I loved energy back during that time in standard. It’s not nearly my strongest deck but after the upgrades it’s tons of fun.
I drove outside of town to see if I could get my hands on one of these decks, but not surprising they were all sold out. I did manage to get $30 worth of singles so I can build "the Hail, Caesar! deck at home" which just runs Kelsien, the Plague as the commander. But when I do get another chance at these, I'll be able to buy the one I want and get a discount on it too. Which is better than my original plan; trying to use a over a pound of metal bottle caps (worth 14 cents Canadian) to try to buy a single Fallout deck.
Just a heads up to those interested in buying them, Wal-Mart has these decks marked up to $65.00. I would recommend looking at your LGS or online first and seeing where the lowest price is before going to a big box store.
Whilr Science might be disappointing for what it could have been, I'm still really happy it exists and that I got it. I've always wanted an energy commander deck, but there hasn't been quite enough good energy commander cards. I think swapping out a few of the less synergistic pieces for some of the best energy cards already in magic, and we can finally have an at least decent energy commander deck. Shame there's no access to green though
Been trying to get into magic over the past few months. I picked up the mothman deck last night but also want to get the legion deck especially after the video said its the best for new players. Now i just have to find a place to actually play at. 😅
I really just want to get the Butch DeLoria card from these decks, so I can build an entire commander deck around saying "Tunnel Snakes Rule!" as often as possible.
I cried when I saw The Master was included.... I wasn't expecting them to include much of anything from the classic games but they did, and as a secondary commander no less. He's powerful AND an accurate adaptation of his character. Slam dunk.
Yeah, they could have easily added Dynavolt tower and a few others to the Jeskai deck but I added some from my own collection and mixed it together with my already existing Jeskai Artifacts deck and I think it should play nicely now. With tower and Decoction module and maybe Gonti's aether heart, the deck can actually produce a more consistent amount of energy, whereas out of package it feels like you either get some energy cards during the game or not see a single one..
Love all the Fallout flavored jokes and puns! Eldrazi Winter does sound like a legitimate commander deck! The entire deck has basic snow covered lands and has snow colorless mana!!! 😄
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Wow, we got a real Fallout loremaster over here. Paarthurnax is my favorite Brotherhood NPC
Yes the Dark Brotherhood of Steel
Shout out to my peeps at the Institute of Winterhold.
Man i love being the guild master of the Railroad
You hurt my soul. Paarthunax is the synth dragon that the brotherhood of blades wants you to KILL. He's a chill dude and certainly not aligned with Maxon and Delphine's chapter of the Brotherhood.
I just wished they allowed us to turn on delphine and jarl elisif and balgruff @TangledLion
Don’t forget about the best plot point in new Vegas, where Alduin asks you to receive the platinum chip, which will allow him to rule Over the imperial legion.
A new hand touches the pip boy
@@ScornfulEg0tist oh God not again
@@ScornfulEg0tistthis comment section is amazing
@@ScornfulEg0tist under rated reply xD
Platinum chip? Dude he sent him to Megaton for a GECK
I really appreciate that WotC put full-art basics in these precons. It's one thing I won't need to upgrade later on if I end up really liking the deck.
It's almost unbelievably cool. I honestly would not believe it.
The basic lands are gorgeous!
The cold open was fucking gold 😂
Glad you enjoyed it!
like Prof said: they are maybe not the strongest of all time. But isnt this what we are sometimes even complaining about? That Powercreep is taking over? For me, the most important aspect is, that they are a full FLAVOUR-WIN. The more you know the games, the more you understand how much love and details are in there. I almost got tears when I saw the Arcane Signet. I will always remember how I kept the wedding ring in my Inventory all the time during my playthrough. Or getting an treasure (Nuka-Cap) when you sac an food token (Nuka-Cola). Or the Radiation-Mechanic. Also the art style fits Fallout 100%. Thats what is important to me. Thank you Prof. Im glad you are a true Fallout-Fan yourself. Prof.. Prof is always right..
Yeah, when I saw the Nuka Cola Machine my first thought was that it was such an awesome flavor reference to the game! Much better than just a generic Magic card with a Fallout name and art.
The lore is so spot on, I'm legit impressed with how well these cards capture the feel of Fallout. A+
I'm in the same boat. I'd rather win with a fun and fair deck
I am a little upset we didn't get Maria as a legendary artifact but yeah, flavor is a blast with these.
I'm so excited by the mutant menace deck. Payoffs for small amounts of mill is really intriguing.
My only complaint is that they didn't reprint ruin crab as a mirelurk hatchling.
Honestly the best part of it to me are the rads aren't permanent so it doesn't make you a perma archenemy at the table but still allows you to have pretty explosive turns, PLUS AN INEXORABLE TIDE REPRINT PRAISE BE
@@agrape2887Rads are great because you can straight up antagonize one player or be even handed and it's not much different than mill, but with great payoffs
Would mean A LOT to me if you took a minute to watch our guide to building Three Dog, Galaxy News DJ here. There's a lot of cool insight and talk of Commander strategy: ruclips.net/video/uf3C8L1Yy2w/видео.html
Watched. How about the Next deck tech: Shaun father of Synths, please :P
I definitely watched it! I genuinely LOVE your custom deck series including the budget precons! Appreciate you so much Prof!! ❤😊
Personally, I'm always happiest to see maximum variety and minimum power. It means going back and enriching old cards by way of finding new synergies instead if forcing old cards out due to power creep.
Also, nicest Myriad Landscape art to date, actually feels like all 5 colors are present.
Edit: Also, energy comes back in MH3, so Science! might improve drastically in þe foreseeable future
I am buying Scrappy Survivors solely because I own a German Shepherd like Dogmeat and I want to make it a deck dedicated to my own goodest boi ❤
That's awesome man! My fiance's mother had a German Shepard, loved that dog. The closest I can come is that there's a little cat on "instrument of the bards" that looks like my cat
Keeps sponsoring the mtg youtube with the absolute best hair is a really strong marketing strategy hahahaha
Brian Kibler enters the chat. Oh, and Olivia, too.
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@@TheLegoJungle Olivia Gobert-Hicks
I absolutely love that you pronounce Caesar the way you do, it shows that you know what you're talking about.
May I ask why does he pronounce Caesar like that I’ve always heard it normally like Caesar salad?
that's the right pronunciation in Latin@@collinturner5307
Hmm so Kaiser is correct and not Caesar like Julius Caesar. I too would like to know why this corruption exists. Thanks.
IRL, call it linguistic drift.
In New Vegas, it's a why to tell who's thrown in with the Legion. Pronounced the proper way, they're with the Legion. Pronoucee like the salad, not with the Legion.
@@thelonewanderer117But didn't Prof say he doesn't ever pick the Legion? Mmmmmhh... suspicious
Glad that the Caesar deck is good out of the box. I know VERY little about magic but the shear amount of NV love convinced me to try. Can't wait!
Liked PURELY for the proper Latin pronunciation of "Caesar". My Classics minor is so happy
Ave, true to Caesar.
Edward Sallow
Hoolius Kaiser. :)
Кесарю кесарево =ъ
I was literally looking up the Hail Caesar deck as you post this. I wanna tear it apart for Mr. House and build a dice roll deck.
Ironically you probably only need the mr house card and the bubbleheads for that
I'm also stoked about Mr. House, he looks like a hilarious commander.
All I need you to do is to either use poker chips or bottle caps as your treasure tokens. That would be a flavour win.
@@AlessandroAltosoleChannelAren't those the only cards that do anything with dice
There's a ton from the dnd sets and unfinity, and if you want to dip into silver border (with permission of your playgroup) there's even more@@durttheelder4035
The Prof's picks on Card Kingdom is how I first got into commander and I really appreciate it. Really helped me learn to not just buy the most expensive deck or singles.
I got Dogmeat just for Dogmeat.
Had a great time playing these in a Pod last night. We each had a different pre-con.
One thing to note about the energy deck is that there is also going to be a jeskai energy commander precon in MH3, and they've already shown that new energy cards will also be showing up in the regular set. So if you really like the energy theme and want to focus on that part of the deck, we may very well be getting a lot of new options coming up
While it is nice that their commitment to revitalizing the energy mechanic extended farther than just throwing Commander players one deck's worth of toys and leaving it at that, it feels like a shame that they just didn't want to commit fully to that playstyle in this precon. I'm not often the one to cry out "Oh, WOTC just releases half-baked products to sell you the missing pieces later", but I cannot deny that the construction of the Science! deck coupled with the abrupt release of another Commander product in the same colours released on a very short time-frame that has new, synergistic cards with the same niche mechanic, it feels like a hustle. Gives a bit of that "Congrats on buying our product, now buy the next one, you shmuck." air to it. It's not like it's the end of the world. That deck is actually pretty fun anyway. It's just that when you sell it at a premium like this and with it having a sales-pitch as strong as "The comeback of energy after 7 years", it's understandable to feel a little miffed at the fact that the energy part of the deck wound up feeling kinda underwhelming and being told that the next, premium-priced product is going to give you the solution is a bitter bit of cold comfort.
I just want to express how glad I am that I found your channel. I'm transitioning from being very invested in hearthstone and dabbling in magic arena only on occasion, to making hearthstone an occasional treat while picking up paper magic.
This channel is a wealth of information and seems so welcoming and encouraging of new players. Your delivery is great and you're clearly adept at engaging your audience.
Life is hard and I'm very thankful people like you exist who have such utility in making this fun, complex game easily digestible for people excited about trying a new hobby.
Thanks again for being you.
Been so excited waiting for this video to come out.
Been hoping to use this set to help get my Fallout-obsessed wife into MTG, so I am very happy I went with Hail Caesar now that I have watched this video!
Might have to pick up the Mothman or Dogmeat deck to play against her. 🥰
I had never played a Fallout game before, but then I saw the Scrappy Survivors deck and was so excited to see a good boy commander that I bought it and started Fallout 4.
Something that should be noted about the hail Caesar deck is that the secondary commander. Mr. House, more or less doesn't work with the deck. There are a couple treasure makers and a single other dice roller. (luck bobblehead) A fun looking commander but doesn't get much from the aristocrat theme.
I bought Mutant Menace at my LGS for the launch party and I must say the rad mechanic is super flavorful. I love this deck, it’s super fun to play.
So far Dr.Who UB (Universe Beyond) was insanely fun since WOTC also added new Planechase cards to the decks.
When it comes to Fallout decks I can't wait to get Science! because I have wanted to play a EDH Energy deck since Kaladesh, which was so long ago it feels like a fever dream... after watching the video: I still want Science! :P
I was honestly Hoping For them to become a thing in all Universes Beyond precons. I would consider buying UB precons from IPs I'm not particular fond on or interested on if I get to add that plane into my planechase deck.
The Science! deck isn't that bad. The energy synergy is indeed lacking, but in the punchy department it's no slouch! Without energy upgrades, I'd use Liberty Prime as the commander; with energy upgrades, Madison Li becomes a serius contender.
The Mutant Menace is a league above, though.
The Science deck went well on Game Knights. Although it was piloted by the mad scientist, Kyle Hill
I played Scrappy Survivors today at my LGS. I haven't had that much fun playing MtG since long time! Absolutely in love with Dogmeat. Recommend grabbing it!
Thanks for the informative videos as always, Prof! My best buddy is getting into Commander with this Universes Beyond set.
I'm so excited to build Mr. House, President and CEO! I've already made my list on tapped out, and it can do some nutty things
I found this channel a while ago and I really appreciate profs approach to magic. The most important thing to him is getting the best mtg product you can get for a a reasonable price.
Yes, LGS coming in clutch as usual got all 4 at $45 each and the collector boosters were only $28. Shop local friends.
let's go i have the two best on the way in the mail! I did have to cave in and order on amazon though, I checked both of my lgs and they were neither taking pre orders nor sure if they would have enough of the decks, so I just took the opportunity to ensure i'd have these awesome decks to play.
Love the break down of each decks worth and value in both money and playability. Great descriptions and comparisons made to other universes beyond decks.
Thanks Prof! I've been undecided about these for a while but I'm intending to try and lure one of my best friends into playing MtG because she's a big Fallout fan!
Demand-pricing for sealed commander decks is inherently predatory. WOTC needs to go back to MSRP to stop this bullshit.
MSRP doesn't stop the bullshit. e.g. Masters sets and From the Vault.
Yes, WOTC is making some bad decisions regarding price, but those products didn't sell well enough, remember. We get 2 dozen commander decks each year nowadays, but they couldn't sell enough Spellbooks or Premium Edition Secret Lair Fetchland bundles to justify doing it once a year. And don't forget the $100 proxies that ended up in a landfill somewhere.@@Welverin
@@williamsimkulet7832 What are you talking about?
Master Sets and FtV absolutely sold. Any time WotC has short printed something, stores have price gouged and still sold out and MSRP didn't mean shit.
You're kidding yourself if you think WotC listing an MSRP will stop stores from jacking up prices when the opportunity presents itself.
The fetchland Ultimate Edition is another thing that suffered from price gouging and was impossible to find. It was the Pathway one that didn't and it's no coincidence that was undesirable and over printed.
To sum up: if demand outstrips supply, MSRP will not stop sellers from jacking up prices.
I pulled apart the science deck and remade it better with cards from Kaladesh and Aether revolt…only 27 of the original cards (not including lands but I did fudge with the lands a bit) from the precon stayed. But the fact that we got a Jeskai Energy Artifacts matter deck is the best part to me. I’m playing today and can’t wait to see how good it is
I love that you've actually played some of the games. Other reviewers were tripping and falling their way through pronunciations and completely unable to even comment on how excited they were as Fallout players.
A note for players now 5 months later the caesar deck wich is pretty good verry synergistic but now going for 35 DOLLARS a real steal of u ask me
I was lucky to grab a Hail Caesar deck when it was
These decks got my boyfriend to finally get into magic with the Dogmeat one. It's been EIGHT YEARS!! Never did I think I'd see the day. Thankful these decks made him "one of us" and now we have a local fourth in our playgroup :)
I bought the four pack for my girlfriend and I to enjoy. She’s never played magic but she’s a huge fallout nerd and spent over an hour looking over the cards and gushing about the fallout lore and all the details in the cards.
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That was golden! Your humor is unmatched in the MTG world.
It has come to the point where I think the same way about Bethesda games.
I will say i got into magic due to friends at college, and i now i have a few magic decks, specifically commander. I also got into fallout because of them. So it is nice to see that most of the fallout decks are good, just need to possibly be cheaper. I wanted to get scrappy surviors because dogmeat was may favorite character, and it is nice to know that it might need some upgrades. Granted, almost all of my decks are upgraded precons soooo. Yeah. I also think that some of the cards in mutant mayhem could also work in a counters deck, like rad storm. I think that while most of these decks are good, the cards they have are kinda meant to help boost other decks already made. This could be why they are not as mana heavey as other univere beyond sets.
Liberty Prime is Red White and Blue. This not putting it into SSS tier is a crime.
These videos are absolutely amazing for anyone new to commander, and those that are trying to get others into MTG and commander as a whole.
The lore summary at the beginning was potent. Truly excellent and I could feel the internal screaming of many lorehounds. Well done.
I'm saving this video for when I've already received my decks, I want to go through all the cards myself first. Hopefully they're ok decks!
Played the Science precon recently. While it's a little saddening to see energy not get the love it deserves as a mechanic, the deck itself pilots pretty well. What I like the most about it is that both of the commanders offer something to players new and old. Dr. Madison Lee is great for newer players, since she gives them something to do at pretty much any point in the game and is very straightforward in her design. Liberty Prime, however, is very good in the hands of an established player, as it benefits the most from someone who understands sequencing to pull off effectively. I tried the robot, and it is a blast to play.
Preordered Scrappy and Science and gonna upgrade Liberty prime to an energy/artifact theme with some blink effects to get a lot of energy. Will try to make the three dog deck in the future too!
The best thing from this set is that they printed 'Everflowing Chalice' as your trusty Vault 13 canteen. Absolutely love it.
I have played 4 matches with dog meat and have been dominant every game. I even pulled off a 1 hit kill on 5 turns with 2 lands. I doubt I’ll ever draw that well again but the deck feels really strong.
What a shame the new cards are only legal in commander. I would love to make a modern (or other 60-card) Rad deck. My playgroup might let me kitchen table it but it always feels better to work within a format.
I pre-ordered the Scrappy Survivors deck for 40€ (about 45$ i think) because Dogmeat is a good boy and deserves all the love. Jokes aside, i think that it was a good deal at that price and i am still happy about it.
Hey prof, great content as usual! I really like the rad and junk mechanics! They feel very thematic and I wish we could see them again in the future, even though I struggle to imagine this wish becoming reality. I preordered the whole lot for 180 euro, which is approximately 49 dollars per deck. Now I just hope they’ll arrive!
Place I bought from sold them at 170, which is a little over 40 dollars each. All these 50-60-80 is 100% mark up. I can't imagine the place I bought from (a large online shop) was selling at a loss.
Sick tie on today's video Prof!
I respect your choice, but when they inevitably make Universe Beyond: Elder scrolls, I expect to hear how you needed to get the lucky 13 chip in order to shut down the portals to Oblivion and how Mr House was cast through time and is destined to destroy the world.
I don’t play Magic, but you sir are a treasure of a man. Amazing content.
Just bought all 4 for $200 at my LGS. This set may not have the best value, but I really dig the art, nostalgia, and mechanics of this set. I’ve been wanting to buy a full precon set for a while, and even bling them out with custom sleeves & deck boxes.
Love the flavor behind these. Love my Mr. House deck. Love the idea that you'll be making a Behind the Campus video.
Appreciate all the effort that the professor puts into these videos. Fantastic job
Not trying to ever shill for Amazon, but when these were first announced you could pre-order the set for $160~ so only about $40 a deck.
I typically pre-order the Universe Beyond decks as soon as they’re announced for this reason. You can usually lock them in at $40-$45 before the secondary market gouge begins.
I really like the scavy scavenger, played against, mutant and sciencse deck. Its really fun, and they all got good flavor. I have a tendency not to upgrade my univers beyound decks😅 i like my 40k cards to stay together, and the same with my lord of the rings 😅
Most wholesome ad I've ever seen. Thanks for adding a smile to my day!
I literally picked up two science decks and each one was under $26. so I would say, yes and that you can definitely pick each fall adeca for a decent price.
My first fallout deck was Scrappy survivors, then mutant menace and science thereafter.
I think I found myself liking science more than the others.
Liberty prime makes a great backup commander, especially if you have fun playing with buckle up. The two backup commanders are actually pretty identical in function. or close enough that you're not going to see much of a difference beyond one being a vehicle and the other is a creature
I payed 180 for all 4 about 45 a piece. My nephew is a huge fallout fan and is very excited to come over and play them likely this weekend
Ended up preordering through TCGplayer when they had the special for all 4 at like $168. Really great value imo I can’t wait till they arrive in the mail
I preordered them for a total of $170 all together as a set, so that worked out to about $42.50 per deck, and I definitely think it was worthwhile, I can sit down and play with people that haven’t played before and have a relatively similarly powered deck to play against them automatically, and I think it’s great for that, plus it’s immensely flavourful
It's always so mindblowing listening to these when it comes to pricing, just as an example, each of these decks here (norway) goes for about 79.99 USD, while a full (say MKM or Outlaw) playbooster booster box goes for 215 USD. Importing is a heck
I stumbled on magic content a couple of weeks ago and am so hooked 😅 I bought Scrappy Survivors on a whim and have been playing Arena on PC. I’m so excited to actually play in person at some point!
The Kaesar has marked you for death, and the Legion obeys!
Best Keeps pitch I have ever heard. Thank you, you beautiful beautiful being.
Thanks for the 'is it worth it' video! I always appreciate your honest opinion, even when I have already ordered produuct. I just received my decks that cost me 160 euro for all four and I'm really happy with them and excited to try them tomorrow with friends. I also can't wait to built three dog!!! I got even more excited by watching the trailer for the new Fallout series. As someone who never played the game, but appreciates the flavor on the cards, I bet the series will make me an even bigger fan of the flavor. :)
If you are interested in the MH3 energy theme, you should buy Science! Because that precon is going to spike in price when MH3 arrives.
I wonder why he uses $50 when retail value for UB is $60. $50 is for normal sets. I also think that secondary commanders should always be mentioned even if they don't pilot more than the face.
My group played a fallout themed pod last night and I loved playing Dogmeat. Pre-War Formalwear was a great card to surprise my opponents with.
I'm gonna play the Mutant Menace deck next week and I'm pumped for it! Thanks for the review!
Store I used to work at is charging 70+ for each deck
I did a 4 way precon game at my FLGS today and managed to pilot scrappy survivors into a solid win by turbo charging dogmeat into an absolute menace
I’m so happy I was able to preorder the set for 150 on Amazon
Think my price was 164, I put my order in back in October.
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Bought all the fallout commander decks (after seeing this video from the Prof.), and looking forward to unboxing and showing them off in one of my next unboxing videos.
Man, I want all of them. I feel virtually no pull to buy sealed magic products anymore, the exception being universes beyond commander precons. I wish I was this excited for the standard sets, but they just feel "thin" somehow compared to the days of three set blocks.
i'm glad i was able to pick up the mothman deck at my LGS for a bit over $50+tax
Thank you for always mentioning that MSRP would be so helpful in standardizing pricing for these products.
I got the Science deck and upgraded with energy cards from Kaladesh. I loved energy back during that time in standard. It’s not nearly my strongest deck but after the upgrades it’s tons of fun.
I am currently sick and thought it really got to me, listening to the first part of the video, funny as always PROF
I drove outside of town to see if I could get my hands on one of these decks, but not surprising they were all sold out. I did manage to get $30 worth of singles so I can build "the Hail, Caesar! deck at home" which just runs Kelsien, the Plague as the commander.
But when I do get another chance at these, I'll be able to buy the one I want and get a discount on it too. Which is better than my original plan; trying to use a over a pound of metal bottle caps (worth 14 cents Canadian) to try to buy a single Fallout deck.
Just a heads up to those interested in buying them, Wal-Mart has these decks marked up to $65.00. I would recommend looking at your LGS or online first and seeing where the lowest price is before going to a big box store.
Price did start high, fortunately dropping fast, in europe at least, cause I want to pick up Science! so badly. Giant robots go gashun
Whilr Science might be disappointing for what it could have been, I'm still really happy it exists and that I got it. I've always wanted an energy commander deck, but there hasn't been quite enough good energy commander cards. I think swapping out a few of the less synergistic pieces for some of the best energy cards already in magic, and we can finally have an at least decent energy commander deck.
Shame there's no access to green though
I really want a lore video now
Same
Been trying to get into magic over the past few months. I picked up the mothman deck last night but also want to get the legion deck especially after the video said its the best for new players. Now i just have to find a place to actually play at. 😅
I wasn't interested in these until I watched the Game Knights episode. The mutant deck looks pretty neat.
Just picked up all four Fallout Decks with sleaves for $175 at my local shop. I am loving the art and I cant wait to find more people to play with!
I really just want to get the Butch DeLoria card from these decks, so I can build an entire commander deck around saying "Tunnel Snakes Rule!" as often as possible.
I’ve been playing Magic for just over two months now. I’ve using the Dogmeat deck a lot and it’s been fairly effective
I love that i watch these after preordering them all a while ago.
I cried when I saw The Master was included.... I wasn't expecting them to include much of anything from the classic games but they did, and as a secondary commander no less. He's powerful AND an accurate adaptation of his character. Slam dunk.
Yeah, they could have easily added Dynavolt tower and a few others to the Jeskai deck but I added some from my own collection and mixed it together with my already existing Jeskai Artifacts deck and I think it should play nicely now. With tower and Decoction module and maybe Gonti's aether heart, the deck can actually produce a more consistent amount of energy, whereas out of package it feels like you either get some energy cards during the game or not see a single one..
“Mutant Menace” was my pick when I decided to preorder one, and was only $48! Such a fun deck, love the new rad counter mechanic
Love all the Fallout flavored jokes and puns! Eldrazi Winter does sound like a legitimate commander deck! The entire deck has basic snow covered lands and has snow colorless mana!!! 😄
There's also that extra layer of joke with the real world Eldrazi Winter, where Eldrazi decks dominated Modern Tournaments during winter 2016.
@@ShadowScorp99 Precisely yes! Damn I remember that too haha