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You know you can trust the Professor on this, a leading expert in making mistakes while playing Commander.
I'd like to imagine that Prof made this vid as a gentle reminder to himself. Like, before a game with JLK or any other _very_ knowledgable magic player you'll see him speed watching this to reinforce proper behavior.😂
Danhausen must've cursed him! 😏
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lol!
So mean
"it's really fun when you win a game of commander... or so I'm told" I love prof for these great comedic lines 😀
This is exactly how I feel every time lol
as someone who got into this many months ago... I can definitely tell you it is really awesome to actually pull off a win in Commander
Every time I see someone do an ad read for a hair loss company, they all seem to describe hair loss as objectively bad. This is the first and only time that I’ve heard someone do an ad for a hair product while also saying that you shouldn’t feel judged for however your hair naturally looks.
Thanks Professor, you continue to set a high bar, from honest critiques to ad reads.
A common mistake I see for sequencing is to cast a planeswalker and then another spell. You should almost always immediately use a planeswalker ability after casting it.
Because as soon as it resolves you have priority, if you cast a spell (or activate any other abilities) then your opponents get priority and can respond and remove the walker before you activate it.
Knowing what I'm doing wrong and actually playing correctly is going to take more than one video to help me, Prof.
I usually hate videos like these that say "mistakes you make when playing" along with "cards you shouldn't be putting in your deck", but this video is really informative. It didn't occur to me to ask my opponents what I did wrong and I have yet played with someone who ask what they did wrong.
That ‘ask opponent what I did wrong’ came up in a game where it was 1-1at the end, he was playing one of those Aura-Voltron commanders and had protection from all colors. I lost and when I showed what I had in my hand, I had Sheoldred, Whispering One - and because she was black and his commander had protection from black I thought her “opponent sacrifices a creature” wouldn’t work - forgot it was a passive that bypassed color protection. Got that pointed out afterwards.
@@orangegalenIt's not because it's passive, but because it's a triggered ability forcing the player to make the choice. If the Voltron player mistakenly only has one creature with protection from all colors, there's a lot of ways to take care of it. Board wipes will still kill it, unless they're damage based, like red ones. Colorless removal will also take it out, though this is rare. But I appreciate your attitude to learn and grow. It will serve you well in this ever growing complicated game!
@@SwedeRacerDC what’s even better is a previous turn I had the best top-deck of my life when I got Karn Liberated and exiled it. Table lost their minds. Unfortunately couldn’t get the tempo back and he re-cast his commander and started the voltron up again. And then I had that misremembering with what protection actually protects against.
@@orangegalen It sounds like a wildly fun game. The kind I enjoy playing and even watching to the finish if I've been KO'd. Protection is definitely a complicated mechanic, which is why they rarely revisit it.. It's not as bad as banding, which is why that one is completely obsolete.
Best piece of advice in this video. Plan your turn out before it's your turn. What needs dealing with. What are your options. Does drawing a land change things. What are your ideal top decks. You can have a plan in place and re-evaluate as new information is relevant.
A lot of the Profs advice here is really going to help you as a newer player.
As you grow as a player, know that a lot that is said here is conditional and subject to the conditions of the table. Growth will include those moments when you realize the lessons presented here do not apply and to do it differently instead.
This is a great place to start, but there are still level-ups to come.
Is there a trustworthy video series from which I can learn for when these level-ups occur, but before I become an expert? Preferably with a presenter as congenial as Prof?
something that really helps also in order to keep track of things and speeding your turn is to clearly voice out loud your steps
even though you are probably playing casual, saying "ok, my turn, untap, upkeep, draw" will help you better manage what comes first in your turn and not forget an upkeep trigger for instance
also, it helps clarify that you are giving priority and so players knows when to interact
so many times I have seen player rushing a step (often when going to combat) and having two creatures sideways and callign someone before people react (or try to bargain/politic) and it often leads to a "sorry but i had something to do before combat" and your judgement is biased by knowing part of what the attack looks like
you should always emphasize on when you give priority
For a lot of new players the biggest mistake is not knowing what they can respond to and when they have priority to respond to it. It's surprising how many people think that removing a creature after being declared as an attacker means its triggered ability doesn't go on the stack. Introducing players to Reconnaissance with first strike damage or similar things is another one. There's plenty of general play improvements sure, but that stems from understanding basic rules of play sometimes.
+1
I've found the best thing to do for new players is to give them the "how to play" cheat card that comes in every precon that shows steps and phases and habe them refer to thay while playing.
It really helps people wrap their head around what's going on step by step, rather than just having three experienced players yelling random instructions at them.
To be totally fair, this isn't even a new player problem per se, but one of where the format tends to encourage a lot of shortcuts for time efficiency's sake which run smack dab into things like: beginning of combat step interaction, attack triggers before blockers, the weird divergent timelines that can occur in combat when one player might have a fog or similar type effect, handling things like cascade...
CEDH is handy here because it forces players to be more explicit on the priority windows, etc., and new players certainly could use the inculcation of those pieces of game knowledge so they can shortcut in a more informed way.
@@canamrock I agree that shortcutting is part of the issue, but I also run into a number of people who don't even know priority exists and think they can cast an instant at any time they want. I.E: A threat ETB's and they cast swords "as a response" when there are no triggers going on the stack and the player who cast it hasn't moved to their next end step/phase. This and a lot of similar things come up at my LGS even when drafting and there have been people who argue or even call a judge because they believe the game works the entirely wrong way. Personally, when I teach people to play any format I sit down and have a notebook breaking down steps/phases while we play with our hands open on the table so I can explain responses and other nuances for a few games or until they're comfortable. Also because of this I announce everything I do in a game whether it's casual or competitive and I don't allow myself takes backsies, as I'm more likely to remember something I did wrong if I suffered the consequence.
Yeah, as a newer player, understanding how priority works was a nightmare. Imagine my play group when I finally found out I could get value out of creatures and artifacts before they get removed
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12:26 pre planning what your going to do is a major part of magic that newer players miss.
Great tips.
One thing that helps is knowing the priority for attempted removal and counter spells and not jumping the gun. quite a specific example, but I've been interjected with a counter spell out of priority while I was casting 'Hatred' just as I was declaring how much life i was going to pay, allowing me to change my answer knowing it was going to get countered.
Playing games in my buddies garage with just piles of whatever is how I learned to ply magic. It was having a 15-30 minute discussion with my friend after each best of 3 that got me good at magic. Not only was able to articulate my thought process to him, he would then articulate his thought process to me and then asks me specific questions about the games. For instance “do you remember what was in your hand on turn 2?” I would tell him and he would respond with “I wonder if maybe doing this play instead of the one you made would’ve been more optimal, based on what I had done. Well, if you would’ve done that I would’ve played differently.” Kind of conversations. Sounds simple, but it went a long way in making me a much better player. So yes, always ask the people you’re plying with what their thought process. Even in the middle of the game. Just don’t be rude with how you’re asking, and most people will happily explain themselves
Best piece of advice I can give to any new player is, I know building decks and playing multiple decks is exciting and fun but focus on 1. Focus and really learn it. Learn the combos and timing, how it all connects and interacts. It'll help you become a better player, and you'll have more fun at games, rather than juggling various decks, strategies and trying to remember what is in a deck and what it does.
I'd like to add one more important one to this list
"Dont fear the counterspells."
Unless you're against a mono blue player, the number of counterspells is extremely limited. If you let a player successfully threaten you with a counterspell, or act like they MIGHT have one (leaving 2 blue open/untapped), you will be losing turns to that player through inaction. While a cointerspell might remove your game winning card or a development piece, deciding not to act because of one gives your opponent more turns to figure out a win and makes you "lose" turns to them, making your victory less likely.
Im not suggesting playing like no one can interact with you, like playing in a vacuum, but play like each big move is going to be countered, and plan around that.
The "make them have it" approach to whether or not your opponents have interaction. Either they have it and use it now, and won't have it later; or they don't have it now, and you get to do your thing. Where this gets complicated is if player A has a counterspell and both player B and C has a winning play in hand. Whoever is first to fire will probably lose. That's where the mind games come into play.
This is a big one to teach newer players for sure. If the possibility of a counterspell causes you to not play the card, it's almost as if it got counterspelled for free (and even if they didn't have one) since the result is still that you did not resolve it, gotta make them have it.
Thank you. My son and I just started playing Magic so, this helps alot.
Same with my son and I
@@TheDesertSpear How are yall doing with the learning curve of it all? We're getting to the point where we don't have to stop and look at rules every 5 minutes 😆
@gamebreaker60 about the same haha. But on the other hand, we are checking for more in depth stuff because we are upgrading decks and getting cards that are a little more in depth or complex
Wish all yall that are learning with your kids the best! My dad n i were the same a long time ago. While its not for everyone, if you guys care more about having fun at home than playing at game stores, consider proxying now n then so you guys can try fun cards together without all the expensive purchases. Yall n your kids will probably appreciate the chance to make fun decks the market would keep out of reach.
Thats what me n my pa did anyways lol. Commander is expensive af
@kippie8200 That's pretty cool. Could you explain proxy? We're having a blast with precons but we're currently trying to build our own decks.
Using Rampant Growth to segue into a Keeps ad is brilliant.
Your videos are awesome. I stopped playing mtg when I left highschool, but your videos got me to try Commander for the first time recently and I've been having a blast.
Didn’t know I needed to watch this until I did. Thank you prof, you are such a staple in the magic community, your presence is unmatched!
15:10 "Make your next plays BASED" clip it!
I would also say try to avoid game/deck memory. This happens to new and seasoned players. It’s good to know that an opponent is a strong player, or that they have a strong deck, but that doesn’t mean you need to destroy/counter everything they play.
Oftentimes people will sub-optimally remove incorrect threats because they know a player is “good” or because they’ve won prior.
Great video, and really articulates better than I can what I try to help people in my pods with. Thanks, Prof.
And this is why he is called the Professor! Well done, sir. Well done. 👏
For this year, i made the conscious decision to attack more. And to take ownership of my actions (no more dice rolling to decide where my attacks go unless the card says so). Sometimes, that makes me the target for a lot of retaliation, but it has definitely made my games a lot better overall.
Arter having played for almost a year I found that the biggest challenge to commander is building decks that are just right for your play groups.
Having to consider the groups rule zeros, power level and play style etc.
Great video with lots of important issues covered. It would be nice to have a clear summary at the end, but it's still good. Here are the main points, but do give it a watch as it goes in detail.
1. Combat mistakes (3:18)
2. Threat Assessment (5:57)
3. Sequencing Errors (8:13)
4. Decision Paralysis (10:30)
5. Playing as if You're in a Vacuum (12:55)
Also in the mentioning of post game self reflection, and possibly elsewhere, I like that 3 of the 4 players in the theoretical game were versions of the Prof and one of them was Spice 8 Rack. Great video again!
Brilliant advice. Thx Prof!
Great video! Always good to review the things that make us a better Magic Commander player!
Commander is a social game so if I get decision paralysis because idk what to use my removal on it can help to ask the table. " do we think is more dangerous A or B?"
After the commander night I just had, I really needed this video. Thank you, Prof! :)
In one of my game groups i act as a teacher to them... and watching this video made me realize a lot of things that i know, but i can't teach them properly. This video is a gift, so thx ❤
I've been playing for 9 years now and any advice I can get helps 8t always seems like the smallest of small things get me. Good stuff Professor
Bout ready to go to my first FNM in over a decade. This was perfect timing on this refresher!
Flying under the radar... still remember Triskadekaphile getting their 13th card due to no one asking me for my hand size.
Amazing and useful video!
I really like how body positive the hair loss ad is. It’s much better than other creators who have similar ads.
very good tips thanks
Thank you for this content, Prof! Too many MTG RUclipsrs focus on covering what's releasing but never take the time to help out new players on understanding the bigger things. It's videos like this from TCC that helped guide my way into Magic. Help guides like this are always immensely appreciated ❤
Need that top button with the tie. Good video
Please continue to make videos about ho me to play better! I want to to see “expert level” lessons please!!
Thank you!
Great tips!
i just bought the davros precon, can't wait for the next episode!
Very useful for a 1 year player like me thanks :) !
The first one translates to poker as well, I've noticed....many players opt to check, rather than play aggressively or lead-out w/ a bet, regardless of the hand
There is nothing to be learned from victory.
A Great tip I got from limited is “ if you don’t know what to do then the sequence of plays that uses the most of your mana is most likely the correct one”
Not always true, but an easy fallback rule of thumb to avoid decision paralysis!
I’m definitely guilty of playing in a vacuum! Gold fishing at home sort of helps me feel confident what my deck wants to do so I can shift my focus to the board in a game
When It Comes To Chump Blocking, I Play A Timeless Deck Of Creatures, Other permanents, and Instants That State Something Like The Following: "Return This Card To The Battlefield From The Graveyard For Cheep Mana Cost". Other Than That Chump Blocking Is Useful If Both Blocking Legal Attacks And Big Hits. Like If I Have 20 Health Remaining And My Opponent Is Attacking For 17 By A Single Creature, Then Definitely Chump Block 😁👍
For threat assessment, I think ramp need to be in the equation. Someone with 10 mana when everyone else have one two rock and 4/5 lands should be on the watchlist. Beware the green player doing nothing but ramping.
Excited for that next episode
These seem like pretty good tips. These work for regular multiplayer as well.
This is why the Professor is a great "Professor" who can assess and analyze good Magic play outside the game yet is an emotionally motivated magic player in the game who often falls prey to all of the things pointed out in this video. That doesn't mean that all of the things pointed out in the video are not valid. They are very valid.
Triggered abilities don't resolve in the middle of other effects. For example, if you put a Cavalier of Gales on the battlefield during a Genesis Ultimatum, you have to finish the Ultimatum first before you brainstorm. (thinking of a specific Shuffle Up & Play episode)
Holding up two blue mana is information on its own as it could be a Counterspell, even if what you have to do with that two mana is not.
i really appreciate your videos
Cheers!
Not paying the one in rhystic study is one of the biggest mistakes magic players ever made
It is not really a mistake but another thing people don't really know is that if you want to move to attack and someone says in response, you are still in your main phase and can still cast creature BEFORE the attack. Let's say someone kills your commander before the attack to stop the attack trigger (thinking Winota), you can cast again your commander and move again to the attack
Love the Spice8Rack cameo @ 6:02! Also, good advice Prof
Something I really struggle with in Commander is knowing when I should try to go for the win and when I should hang back or sandbag my cards. E.g. I don’t want to expand my board presence and put out a lot of threats only to be taken down by the other players, but also sometimes I miss my chance and someone else gets into a dominant position and I can’t overtake them.
the threat reaction thing, so true, so many times my 6/4 anzrag will get swords to plowshares when it lands, instead of when it does something, and then something way worse for the table hits the field, ill always be like, you should have waited, they go, i couldn't have known, but if you had waited you could have, sometimes people bait and or wait for counters and removal to then play things and its so often fell for
One thing that helped me a lot was not taking backsies. When you can't revers a mistake you are more likely to learn from it because they will lose you games. I started to think more about my action and when to take them as a result.
The next shuffle up and play is something I’m excited for. As a yugioh turned commander player, it’ll be interesting to see
Same. Stopped playing Yugioh about a year ago when the LOTR cards came out and I haven’t looked back.
@@TeaGarrison I started playing around March of the Machine.
If a creature isn’t blocking it should probably be attacking seems like the real world application of
if you aren’t losing you are winning.
Sometimes, however, it is correct to threaten a block you actually do not intend to make. Perception is very important.
Great tips! Also love Spice as a scary combo player
Advice I have heard before but need to keep hearing.
Highly hype by the edh game with team aps 😊🎉
I'd love to see one on Mill decks
Thank you prof
Great video
I make quite a few of these mistakes pretty often. but that's okay, knowing a RUclipsr as big as the professor makes the same ones as well.
People also tend to share information about their hand (ex: sure, keep going, i have no interaction aniway), do not do politic at all (a well done bluff sometimes can get you out of sticky situations), and they prefer to keep a weak hand of seven cards with too many or to little lands instead of going to a strong hand of 6 or 5 cards.
RUclips: Awesome video filled with fundamental game decision tips.
Me: "Cool! I finally drew this 7 mana thing that I never have played before! Let's see how it pans out in game!" *ignores rest of board, hand, GY, silent players etc etc
With sequencing it can make you ignore other suggestions. It might be better to play cards after combat but if say it’s an ability that does x based on the number of permanents you have if you can increase it before combat do it!
Wanting to get back into playing Magic. But, I stopped around 1998 or so and so much has changed. Not sure where to even start anymore lol. Trying to watch as many videos as I can before I sink money into a few decks to play.
half expected the secret lair alert head to pop up
Team APS in the preview!! So hype!!! Hope we can see some digimon TCG with Alec in the future! haha
Can’t wait for the APS episode
One specific mistake I see often is players wasting instant speed removal on “scary” creatures as soon as they hit the board. I save that removal until the creature is attacking me and I’m in not position to take the hit or block.
Every time an opponent’s creature(s) are damaging anyone other than you, they are in effect working for you.
My biggest mistake in Commander comes from my Timmy playstyle In casual games. As a Timmy I enjoy large, impactful spells, and I’ve spent a lot of time figuring out how many big spells I can put in a deck without having consistency issues. However, almost always playing a big spell each turn after the setup of lands + ramp draws a lot of attention and causes me to appear on everyone’s threat radar even if I’m 5+ turns from being a threat to someone’s life.
Thought the Rampant Growth segue was going to be for Manscaped for sure.
Re: decision paralysis: I love Prototype Portal, but I had to replace it in every deck it was in w Mimic Vat, because I could never settle for what to imprint, Mimic Vat let me act first and adapt later.
Saving cards for second main and choosing to attack first is not something I thought about. I'll have to give that a go.
how does this channel post so often? i can't imagine how rough the schedule must be gosh
They're troopers.
12:15
Even better. It's not only not the end of the world, but it is a learning experience that makes you better in the long run.
The way you used those Spice8Rack pictures was hilarious.
Still waiting on the snake tribal deck tech video :)
you're so wise bro
One of my favorite things about magic is that even if I lose, I usually get just a little bit better every time I play, and ultimately that's the end goal, to be a better player than I was before the game.
The Professor really is the embodiment of "those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."
".... or so i am told" GOT ME hahahaha
I wasnt expecting this video to be so accurate...
Keeps you guys gotta spread them ads out a LITTLE better, my god. You are EVERYWHERE today.
One common mistake I see in Magic players more generally is the classic "use it because you have it" mindset. They'll draw a removal spell, find whatever the biggest threat currently on the board is, and cast it without thinking about if something more threatening is likely to be played on a later turn.
"don't rage quit" is another that comes to mind.
was playing a game and one guy was building quite a strong board state. i and the other 2 kept trying to stop him since we were all slower due to mana curve. when someone tried to remove their commander, they got flustered and tried to scoop, so i offered to "save" their commander with one of my enchantments to return it to their hand instead and they accepted. they never played their commander again the whole game and ended up winning anyway.
basically, be more understanding about why you might be targeted and come to terms that sometimes losing one card doesn't mean you lose the game outright and at the very least you can still enjoy the rest of the game.
That's really true, even more in a multiplayer game
You never know what the game will look like even one turn later! (Board wipe, combo out of nowhere, etc...) So i always try to play until I really that there is nothing in my game which is going to reverse the tide
The number of people I saw quit before a drastic change is way to high... For instance I had once a game (1v1v1) where one of my opponents had a kitchen combo for infinite life, next was the third player which was "ok then, you have infinite life, you win I can't compete" I tried to tell him to stay as i had a strong plan which needed only a good support as it needed two turns but he was "naaaah he can go infinite life again and again"... Bro! I couldn't flat tell him because it would ruin the plan in case of interaction but i had a heavy tutor deck which win with an unlockable phage (sorry it's the french name, don't know in English) for those kind of situations but as it requires lots of mana i couldn't pull it in one turn :/
Therefore, trust your ennemies, they are you're best friend against an archenemy
Or let him rage quit lol. Who wants to play with a guy throwing a temper tantrum anyways. So he gets to behave however he wants have you help him and win the game? Nah. Casual commander scooping should be done with the highest level of sportsmanship. Not as a weaponized ultimate game action. Wrong format for that behavior.
@@bryanholdren9043 my point is, nothing i actually did even mattered. they were just in a bad mood and needed to play the game out
1. Combat. Multiplayer formats like Commander tend to punish players for attacking unless that attack can take out the entire table. It is wise not to focus your attention on one player or another and attack each player evenly if you intend to close out a game using combat. Myriad is a good ability and so is Goad, and choosing to attack the player with the highest life total to even out life totals so that your final combat step can take out everyone at once!!
...however, if there is only one combo player at the table who intends to combo off and win as quickly as possible, everyone should gang up and attack that player to take them out of the game before they can combo off. This is not rude or unfriendly, it's just magic. Combo players know this, and should be prepared to face an entire table of 3 vs 1 attackers without getting salty about it.
always good to see a Spice8Rack appearance at TCC
one of the biggest and maybe less obvious mistakes i would say is just killing opponents too early, and it has nothing to do with being "too mean".
if you have one or more opponents who are not super threatening, you can obviously get some free damage and/or attack triggers off them, but you have to realize that they are still an ally against any opponents who are the real threat.
for example, i was playing with my friend and 2 others. my friend and i were running 2 MKM precons while the other 2 were using locust god and mothman. mothman kept swinging at us for attack triggers while the locust god kept growing their board state. my biggest issue was that i didn't have any flyers but i had a board wipe in hand that i could have used against the locust god on my next turn if mothman didn't kill me. my friend also had a massacre worm which would have devastated locust's board of 1/1s, but he too died before he could use it.
so the locust god just finished the mothman off easily at that point as it had nothing it could do against all the token creatures they generated and the 2 people who could have done something about it were dead.
Super informational video! The planning your turn ahead is super important for me because I mostly play on stream, and that makes the experience a lot better