I am neither Calvinist nor Arminian. I do believe in my eternal security. Based on the Apostle Paul's letter to the younger Timothy before his(Paul's end). Hallelujah.
In my opinion Calvinism makes the point more clear. God's foreknowledge of the end outcome would mean it is unconditional to God and only a condition from the viewpoint of his elected because the elected do not have foreknowledge of the outcome in making a decision. It is the viewpoint from God that matters and not the elected. I don't agree that God overpowers our free will from this position taken here in this video. We still have free will that God empowers us through his word and the grace and mercy from Christ Jesus in the Calvinistic viewpoint and using the word "overpower" is wrong just because God has foreknowledge.
No. Under Calvinism God does indeed OVERpower. That is precisely what "irresistible gace" implies. In Arminianism God empowers people to believe through prevenient grace.
These are not the only two views. Catholics, Lutherans, Semi-Pelagians, and Eastern Orthodox all teach different things. I myself would hold to Arminianism but not solely because I don’t believe Calvinism is true.
I'll help you out. I'm against suicide. I was depressed also to suicidal. I almost did suicide as a 5-Point Calvinist. And these scriptures got me more hope. I became more Arminian now from these scriptures I posted on here. I believe people can fail salvation. Loving God is wanting to be useful for him much. What if a person could do that much of his time? And I enjoy working from this. People who enjoy working. When it's more likely to be boring to non-Christians. New American Standard Bible (NASB) Mark 9:33 (V)They came to Capernaum; and when He was in (W)the house, He began to question them, "What were you discussing on the way?" . Mark 9:34 But they kept silent, for on the way (X)they had discussed with one another which of them was the greatest. . Mark 9:35 Sitting down, He called the twelve and said to them, "(Y)If anyone wants to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all." . This is for Christian world domination. Why to raise kids Christians. God Son Jesus said similarly to whoever is useful the most is the best merited of the apostles. Useful merit for eternal rewards and competition with other Christians. With God Son Lord Jesus Christ faith teaching, people will want to be useful for the kingdom of Heaven, which usefulness happens on Earth and if any other place. We need to help this world as much as we can! This text could motivate, supposed to be Christian people, to do all types of usefulness. Chores, volunteering, grade school, high school, college, and work. Good people, this world needs them.
God overpowered my free will. He converted me without my consent. He didn't invite me and then leave it up to me to accept or reject His invitation. Whenever there is a debate about God suspending human will when He wants to save someone vs free will, I always remember the parables of the banquets where all the invited guests made excuses to say no thanks so the king sent his servants all over the countryside to force the lame, the blind and all kinds of undesirable types who would normally not be invited to a rich man's feast.
I am neither Calvinist nor Arminian. I do believe in my eternal security. Based on the Apostle Paul's letter to the younger Timothy before his(Paul's end). Hallelujah.
I’m curious why you switched from the NLT to the ESV for some passages?
Thanks! a great summary. Right to the point.
Really excellent overview, thank you
Arminianism isn't taught anywhere in scripture. If saved by grace then it is God's freewill to save.
In my opinion Calvinism makes the point more clear. God's foreknowledge of the end outcome would mean it is unconditional to God and only a condition from the viewpoint of his elected because the elected do not have foreknowledge of the outcome in making a decision. It is the viewpoint from God that matters and not the elected. I don't agree that God overpowers our free will from this position taken here in this video. We still have free will that God empowers us through his word and the grace and mercy from Christ Jesus in the Calvinistic viewpoint and using the word "overpower" is wrong just because God has foreknowledge.
Great video. Thanks
At 0:53, it should be under Calvinism, God empowers while under Arminianism, God overpowers. Not the other way around.
No. Under Calvinism God does indeed OVERpower. That is precisely what "irresistible gace" implies. In Arminianism God empowers people to believe through prevenient grace.
Also in Arminianism , God only responds and empowers after they freely choose him.
@@Terrylb285not always that depends on the different forms
@@Weavileiscool lol I know , a person can’t keep up . I’m glad this is not a salvation issue.
These are not the only two views. Catholics, Lutherans, Semi-Pelagians, and Eastern Orthodox all teach different things. I myself would hold to Arminianism but not solely because I don’t believe Calvinism is true.
Thank God that I am neither Arminian nor Calvinist. Both have roots in pagan Greek philosophy.
I'll help you out.
I'm against suicide. I was depressed also to suicidal. I almost did suicide as a 5-Point Calvinist. And these scriptures got me more hope.
I became more Arminian now from these scriptures I posted on here. I believe people can fail salvation.
Loving God is wanting to be useful for him much. What if a person could do that much of his time? And I enjoy working from this. People who enjoy working. When it's more likely to be boring to non-Christians.
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Mark 9:33 (V)They came to Capernaum; and when He was in (W)the house, He began to question them, "What were you discussing on the way?"
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Mark 9:34 But they kept silent, for on the way (X)they had discussed with one another which of them was the greatest.
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Mark 9:35 Sitting down, He called the twelve and said to them, "(Y)If anyone wants to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all."
.
This is for Christian world domination. Why to raise kids Christians. God Son Jesus said similarly to whoever is useful the most is the best merited of the apostles. Useful merit for eternal rewards and competition with other Christians. With God Son Lord Jesus Christ faith teaching, people will want to be useful for the kingdom of Heaven, which usefulness happens on Earth and if any other place. We need to help this world as much as we can!
This text could motivate, supposed to be Christian people, to do all types of usefulness. Chores, volunteering, grade school, high school, college, and work. Good people, this world needs them.
In other words, arminianism is perfect camouflage for full blown pelagianism
Exactly!!
Arminianism is pelagianism in an evening gown.
God overpowered my free will. He converted me without my consent. He didn't invite me and then leave it up to me to accept or reject His invitation. Whenever there is a debate about God suspending human will when He wants to save someone vs free will, I always remember the parables of the banquets where all the invited guests made excuses to say no thanks so the king sent his servants all over the countryside to force the lame, the blind and all kinds of undesirable types who would normally not be invited to a rich man's feast.
They weren't forced. They were invited. Matt 22:9.
@@AntWoord_YTHe's also correct. They were compelled. Luke 14:23 Confusing?