@@needparalegal Good luck. Here in Tulsa they want 15k for a new standard. That was a couple months ago however. So the price is probably up from there since it’s “riding season” and they can really jig us good cause bikes are selling. Wait til October, November, December, when they need to sell a bike and just maybe you can get a decent price? Maybe? I won’t be. I’m tired of being taken advantage of.
I'm not surprised by any of this. I believe the Street Bob will make the list. The engines keep getting bigger and I'm sure there will be new CVO models coming. There is always something quicker and faster coming down the pike. I agree that I'd love to get my hands on a XR1200.
The FXDR 114 goes from 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. Was made from 2018-2020 so not many out there but wondering why nobody talks about them when they mention fast bikes.
Yes thank you for the response as I love riding mine that I bought 6 months ago people that know quite a bit about bikes always ask me what it is. Yes it is the fastest thing I had ever owned but what I don't understand is that here are other 114s with the same weight, style, engine etc.(Breakout 114) but they are not nearly as fast. Every time I try to ask the Harley dealers they don't seem to know anything and tell me they should have kept making that bike. don't think it has a stage 4 in it and I want to leave it as stock. Maybe it could be the cam so this is what I am trying to find out so that if I get another bike in the future I would like to put the same cam/combination of whatever is in it. @@cycletron
The Live Wire doesn’t count, where you are comparing a gas motorcycle vs an electric motorcycle which are totally in 2 different classes!! my 5 pick is the 2022 Sportster S- bike weight at 503 lbs!! which some mods the bike will decrease in over weight to go even faster than them all!! Boo ya
@@cycletron I had a 911 Porsche, women did not care one bit, but everyone wants a ride on my Harley chopper. I got a very narrow pillion seat to discourage fat women from asking for rides....
I'm a Harley fanatic. These statistics can be deceiving. There are many models not taken into consideration...there has to be. The bike in my profile pic is a 2013 FLS Softail Slim 103CR. I purchased it from the original owner who crashed it at 2264 miles and parked it. 7 years later he sold it to me...as far as I know the Vance and Hines Short Shots are the only add on he did. I built my own custom air filter and induction scoop. I'm not sure what the bike weighs, but if you plug in the factory claimed weight and eighth mile time/speed...it calculates an amazing 175 horsepower. The only official mph slip I have is 107 mph, in 480 feet, and i missed 2nd gear. I don't know my 60 ft time but from a rolling 10 mph start about 30 feet from turning on a 100 yard to the next stop sign street: 88 mph and I pretty much costed to a stop at the stop sign. I never raced a big super bike, but all the 600 to 750 cc bikes that got beside me didn't have a chance. With no fairing about 140 was all I could stand to go...but in the short race...none got close. My friend rode a 07 night rod that was not stock...don't know what was done to it...I would let him get 50 to 75 ft ahead and catch him, pass him like he was standing still. I've ridden a number of stage 4 harleys, twin Cam 103 and a stage 4 m8...they feel sluggish and slow in comparison. Unfortunately the bike was stolen a year ago. I've asked everyone what does the CR mean? No one, even at the dealership has answered me. Anyway...it the fastest for 1/8 or 1/4 mile I've ridden or seen. I'm sure the rice burners are faster top speed...can any one tell me what the CR in the model mean? It didn't show up on paperwork until I got full coverage insurance...
I had a 99 ninja 500r that the previous owner brought to Canada from his training course in Japan.. It was so beat up and made no sense why any one would pay to bring trash over seas.. Until you rode that monster you’d never understand.. 500cc in-line twin.. Idled so rough but that’s because it was tuned right.. I never got passed by anything on that bike.. I have a walk around and rev video somewhere on my channel
The Livewire? Whaaaaat? I saw one driving around the lot of the dealership and it’s really strange to see a motorcycle, especially a Harley, that makes no sound?
@@cycletron I gotta admit that if I were a wealthy man..... I would absolutely buy one! If I enjoyed the test ride as much as I believe I would? As far as I know, there’s nothing like it? Especially not another Harley like it!
But the quickest Harley doesn't have an "engine".….(sorry, couldn't resist!) Hi C.J., nice comparison of the different models. In retrospect, I had a GS1150ES Suzuki as a demonstrator/daily driver. I did take it to New England Dragway just for fun one Sunday in 1986. I did manage an 11.2 sec. @ 122 mph. Suzuki advertised a 10.2 sec. 1/4 mile. I was a very average rider with no track experience. Today's bikes are much quicker and faster in general. But these are all just numbers, what counts is the everyday riding experience. I'm much older now and I'm enjoying the hell out of my 2007 Dyna Twin Cam 96 cu. In.. Great channel you have, take care. Art
Hey Art. That sounds like a blast going down the drag strip though. I agree with you about the riding experience. Harley's aren't really about that but they are still pretty quick in the big scheme of things. 2007 Dyna is a good year from what I have heard. I still have fun on the '82 Virago but on paper it would make no sense to ride that bike when I have more modern bikes to ride.
It would be interesting to take for example a Road Glide and compare performance to a stock bike, a Stage 1, Stage 2, Stage 3, Stage 4, and CVO and then see the price/performance for each. Basically, the actual cost / benefit of incremental performance. I think the fastest EV motorcycle is the Lightning Strike LS-218 with a top speed in its name of "218" mph and 0-60 time of 2.2 seconds for just $46,000 not including the tax credits. Harley as some work to do on the Livewire II.
@@cycletron The battle of the baggers shows that these engines have huge performance potential. The question is there an optimal performance cost / benefit for us street people vs. the professional track racers. This battle of the baggers is a great idea and I'm glad its coming back for another year.
@@geneclarke2205 I get excited about that stuff too. My guess is most of these performance gains are appreciated by the typical Street rider but may not result in any meaningful gains due to outside factors in traffic.
Good point. I was referencing that particular website. I think an update would have that bike tied with the LiveWire for quickest Harley. Thanks for comments ✌
@@cycletron I find it so so weird that it's like the bike doesn't even exist. It's said to be the fastest Harley ever made, yet most lists do not include it. I have the last one sold in my country, possibly the last one sold in Europe. Mine is registered 9/2020. Did a dyno this autumn; 92hp from the wheel with Vance&Hines Mini Grenades, no other changes to the bike. Tested by the official importer of Kawasaki here in Finland.
Lol the FXDR was NEVER claimed to be the fastest Harley. It is the same as all the other softails with a 114 except it has an aggressive riding style and poor handling. The new Sportster S, Pan America and Livewire would absolutely demolish the FXDR. The 114 StreetBob would spank the FXDR. It's a cool bike and it's sad to see Harley stop making it but I'm not sure where you got that it was the fastest Harley.
@@jonnymac8925Thanks for your comments. I did a first ride impression video about my demo of the Sportster S. Man does that bike go. Streetbob 114 is my favorite though. Some people are doing the 131 kit on the Street Bob!
@@cycletron Hope you get to watch the King of the Baggers race, like watching the Pike's Peak rally, this seems like a lot of fun!ruclips.net/video/BOFDCnA7zb8/видео.html
Don't worry about the fastest, now HD is going back to the future with the ICON$ collection! Limited edition eye wateringly expensive bikes that mimic long past models...
@@cycletron yeah, agree its beautiful but it seems to be going in the exact opposite direction of innovative new bikes. Its almost like HD is desperate for revenue.
You talk too much. Talks cheap. / 0-60 don't mean jack in the sonoran desert 🏜️, you never said what's the top speed......,. You're hiding something. Like---- top speed????????? // You mentioned the word seems, sounds like you don't ride them, just talk about them ???
@@cycletron why do you try to appease the idiots that comment dumb shit on your videos. The top speed wouldn't change much in the way of which Harley is quicker. Most 114 bikes have generally the same top speed, same with most 107, 103, 98,96,95,88,80,74ci Harleys. These meathead made a comment like he somehow figured some big secret out when really he isn't smart enough to do the math. I bet he doesn't have a bike at all lol
You didn't at all tell us how, "Fast" any of these bikes are. The only mph reference is 60 mph. The time it takes to get there, or the 1/4 mile, is only a reference of quickness not speed. Your title, "Top 5 Fastest Harley Davidson Motorcycles" has not at all been fulfilled.
Sounds good to me. One of my bikes ( bone stock) does about 5 mph faster than that in first gear, with 5 gears to go ( not that anyone who can ride would red line it in 1st gear lol )
@@jonnymac8925 BMW S1000 RR Gen 4. (207 HP, 427 lb wet) Here is a video with one identical to mine. The M package model, which includes carbon fibre wheels. The version available in the USA is not exactly the same full power version we here in Europe get. There are different emission laws in the USA . Those laws are not more strict, just different. So the machine has to be detuned electronically to allow sale in the US. Just to let u know, I also have a cruiser, and I love it. But there is no comparison in performance of any cruiser and a modern sports bike. Maybe the 0 to 60 times are similar due to several reasons regarding simple physics, but that's it. Apples and oranges brother. ruclips.net/video/GA-7KpW8eKw/видео.html
What Kind of Drugs are you on? You said Harleys are faster than most Americna Muscle cars? My '79 Z-28 Camaro does the quater mile @ 12.25 @ 111 MPH .. One time I passed a Gang of Bikers and they Tried to chase me you know what kind of a Joke that was? My Camaro Tops out at 150 MPH .. I don't know if any Harleys can do over 120 MPH .. BAck in the Early 1980's the Fast bikes were Kawasaki 900 and 1000.. They both topped out at about 130 to 135 MPH m The could almost stay with me 130 MPH then I pulled away and left them .. Now days many 1 Liter Sport bikes with Fairings can do close to 200 MPH .. The new Camaros and Corvettes at Governed at 180 MPH .. but you can reflash the ECM's and go faster.. The HD V-Rod was like 120 HP Yamaha V-Max is 183 HP I think to the rear wheel.. Suzuaki Hayabusa's will do well over 180 MPH .. I forogt their Stock HP
If I'm going to buy a crotch rocket from Harley it would have been a buell I just don't like electric vehicles. That includes a nerd Tesla. There is no replacement for displacement
You can take that live wire push it off the side of a cliff it's not a real Harley. I don't like electric nerd mobiles and I'm not a tree hugger. But if you like electric bikes wear it out
There's fast and then there's quick...Somewhat different. I think the PA will beat all of them overall. Electric vehicles aren't always great at high speeds. I was reading about Teslas on a road track and they can suffer performance issues, meaning when pushed to the limit, the first lap was good, second not so much. Try looking at the LA County Sheriff's evaluation of vehicles as well as the Michigan State Police. They break out the performance numbers in all sorts of increments as well as lap times, top speed, etc. www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/TestResultsCombinedMY2020_666841_7.pdf and lasd.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/2020-Motorcycle-Test-Booklet_032420.pdf
Yes I don't think Tesla have done too well at Nurburgring whereas Porsche dominates there. I think I was a little loose with my language on fast versus quick.
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No vrod destroyer?
Did ‘Autocorrct’ feature let you type Fast and Harley in the same sentence in this video’s title ? 😉
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lol
The Vrod smokes all Harleys where is the Screaming Eagle Harley V Rod? 9 seconds quarter mile?
They have a 2016 softail slim here in Tulsa. Myers Duren Harley Davidson has one on their website.
That is a sweet bike.
I would buy a new Softail standard if I could get one near retail price.
@@needparalegal Good luck. Here in Tulsa they want 15k for a new standard. That was a couple months ago however. So the price is probably up from there since it’s “riding season” and they can really jig us good cause bikes are selling. Wait til October, November, December, when they need to sell a bike and just maybe you can get a decent price? Maybe? I won’t be. I’m tired of being taken advantage of.
I'm not surprised by any of this. I believe the Street Bob will make the list. The engines keep getting bigger and I'm sure there will be new CVO models coming. There is always something quicker and faster coming down the pike. I agree that I'd love to get my hands on a XR1200.
I’d definitely agree, I’ve got a stage 1 bob and it’s kept up or beat every other Harley I’ve been on/been around
What about the 'newer' V-Rods, the 1250cc vs 1130cc models? They are two different animals.
I am not sure, although it does seem that Harley's quickest bikes are all discontinued models unless you get into the liquid cooled Sporster S.
The FXDR 114 goes from 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. Was made from 2018-2020 so not many out there but wondering why nobody talks about them when they mention fast bikes.
You make a good point it's just kind of a forgotten model by now for most people as they didn't sell very many, but I think it's a solid bike.
Yes thank you for the response as I love riding mine that I bought 6 months ago people that know quite a bit about bikes always ask me what it is. Yes it is the fastest thing I had ever owned but what I don't understand is that here are other 114s with the same weight, style, engine etc.(Breakout 114) but they are not nearly as fast. Every time I try to ask the Harley dealers they don't seem to know anything and tell me they should have kept making that bike. don't think it has a stage 4 in it and I want to leave it as stock. Maybe it could be the cam so this is what I am trying to find out so that if I get another bike in the future I would like to put the same cam/combination of whatever is in it.
@@cycletron
@@mycoolchannel-uj7pl That is interesting for sure. If you find out what the secret sauce is please let me know!
Okay definitely will if I ever find out 👍 @@cycletron
What’s the model in the thumbnail?
The Live Wire doesn’t count, where you are comparing a gas motorcycle vs an electric motorcycle which are totally in 2 different classes!! my 5 pick is the 2022 Sportster S- bike weight at 503 lbs!! which some mods the bike will decrease in over weight to go even faster than them all!! Boo ya
Wow! I love HD and Porsche. Need to find a used vrod!
There is a dealer in Topeka that has a new 2001 Vrod with no miles on it but they are asking $18k for it.
My 1998 Mercedes has a Cruising speed of 140. Cruising. And then some !!!
@@mikeernest1764 you are comparing a car to a cruiser.....
My airplane has a cruising speed of 500mph and then some.
See how that works? 😆
Great presentation, thank you my friend.
Thank you for checking it out!
The only reason I want a Harley is to look good to women. Harleys work like a charm in that department.
@@cycletron I had a 911 Porsche, women did not care one bit, but everyone wants a ride on my Harley chopper. I got a very narrow pillion seat to discourage fat women from asking for rides....
@@needparalegal It is funny you say that. I have had many women who know I am married ask for a ride on my bike. My wife says no. Lol.
That's all they're good for. That and flat-track racing. Nothing more.... Prove me wrong and I'll accept it !
@@needparalegal thinking of getting a harley as well
@@j.vosier6786 I have not ridden a modern Harley, I wonder if they have become comfortable.
I'm a Harley fanatic. These statistics can be deceiving. There are many models not taken into consideration...there has to be. The bike in my profile pic is a 2013 FLS Softail Slim 103CR. I purchased it from the original owner who crashed it at 2264 miles and parked it. 7 years later he sold it to me...as far as I know the Vance and Hines Short Shots are the only add on he did. I built my own custom air filter and induction scoop. I'm not sure what the bike weighs, but if you plug in the factory claimed weight and eighth mile time/speed...it calculates an amazing 175 horsepower.
The only official mph slip I have is 107 mph, in 480 feet, and i missed 2nd gear. I don't know my 60 ft time but from a rolling 10 mph start about 30 feet from turning on a 100 yard to the next stop sign street: 88 mph and I pretty much costed to a stop at the stop sign. I never raced a big super bike, but all the 600 to 750 cc bikes that got beside me didn't have a chance. With no fairing about 140 was all I could stand to go...but in the short race...none got close. My friend rode a 07 night rod that was not stock...don't know what was done to it...I would let him get 50 to 75 ft ahead and catch him, pass him like he was standing still. I've ridden a number of stage 4 harleys, twin Cam 103 and a stage 4 m8...they feel sluggish and slow in comparison. Unfortunately the bike was stolen a year ago. I've asked everyone what does the CR mean? No one, even at the dealership has answered me. Anyway...it the fastest for 1/8 or 1/4 mile I've ridden or seen. I'm sure the rice burners are faster top speed...can any one tell me what the CR in the model mean? It didn't show up on paperwork until I got full coverage insurance...
I had a 99 ninja 500r that the previous owner brought to Canada from his training course in Japan..
It was so beat up and made no sense why any one would pay to bring trash over seas..
Until you rode that monster you’d never understand..
500cc in-line twin..
Idled so rough but that’s because it was tuned right..
I never got passed by anything on that bike..
I have a walk around and rev video somewhere on my channel
The Livewire? Whaaaaat? I saw one driving around the lot of the dealership and it’s really strange to see a motorcycle, especially a Harley, that makes no sound?
Yes it is a cool bike, just not $30,000 cool.
@@cycletron I gotta admit that if I were a wealthy man..... I would absolutely buy one! If I enjoyed the test ride as much as I believe I would? As far as I know, there’s nothing like it? Especially not another Harley like it!
But the quickest Harley doesn't have an "engine".….(sorry, couldn't resist!) Hi C.J., nice comparison of the different models. In retrospect, I had a GS1150ES Suzuki as a demonstrator/daily driver. I did take it to New England Dragway just for fun one Sunday in 1986. I did manage an 11.2 sec. @ 122 mph. Suzuki advertised a 10.2 sec. 1/4 mile. I was a very average rider with no track experience. Today's bikes are much quicker and faster in general. But these are all just numbers, what counts is the everyday riding experience. I'm much older now and I'm enjoying the hell out of my 2007 Dyna Twin Cam 96 cu. In..
Great channel you have, take care. Art
Hey Art. That sounds like a blast going down the drag strip though. I agree with you about the riding experience. Harley's aren't really about that but they are still pretty quick in the big scheme of things. 2007 Dyna is a good year from what I have heard. I still have fun on the '82 Virago but on paper it would make no sense to ride that bike when I have more modern bikes to ride.
People who want quick bikes tend to die. I will stay slow. I had a 1986 GSXR1100 but never pushed it except in a straight line.
Video includes 4 Harleys and 1 Abomination.
😀👍They just lowered the price by $8,000 on that bike. I will be curious if they get any takers.
It would be interesting to take for example a Road Glide and compare performance to a stock bike, a Stage 1, Stage 2, Stage 3, Stage 4, and CVO and then see the price/performance for each. Basically, the actual cost / benefit of incremental performance. I think the fastest EV motorcycle is the Lightning Strike LS-218 with a top speed in its name of "218" mph and 0-60 time of 2.2 seconds for just $46,000 not including the tax credits. Harley as some work to do on the Livewire II.
That is a great idea on the stage comparisons. I will look into that. They should call that EV the whiplash.
@@cycletron The battle of the baggers shows that these engines have huge performance potential. The question is there an optimal performance cost / benefit for us street people vs. the professional track racers. This battle of the baggers is a great idea and I'm glad its coming back for another year.
@@geneclarke2205 I get excited about that stuff too. My guess is most of these performance gains are appreciated by the typical Street rider but may not result in any meaningful gains due to outside factors in traffic.
@Jeremy Creason That would be an interesting comparison.
Sounds Good !
We don't talk about the last one don't buy the last one you will regret it forever
So all of these are faster than the FXDRS?
Good point. I was referencing that particular website. I think an update would have that bike tied with the LiveWire for quickest Harley. Thanks for comments ✌
@@cycletron I find it so so weird that it's like the bike doesn't even exist. It's said to be the fastest Harley ever made, yet most lists do not include it.
I have the last one sold in my country, possibly the last one sold in Europe. Mine is registered 9/2020. Did a dyno this autumn; 92hp from the wheel with Vance&Hines Mini Grenades, no other changes to the bike. Tested by the official importer of Kawasaki here in Finland.
@@ilkkavayrynen8594 That is cool. Enjoy your ride. At least your bike is unlike any others you will see on the road!
Lol the FXDR was NEVER claimed to be the fastest Harley. It is the same as all the other softails with a 114 except it has an aggressive riding style and poor handling. The new Sportster S, Pan America and Livewire would absolutely demolish the FXDR. The 114 StreetBob would spank the FXDR. It's a cool bike and it's sad to see Harley stop making it but I'm not sure where you got that it was the fastest Harley.
@@jonnymac8925Thanks for your comments. I did a first ride impression video about my demo of the Sportster S. Man does that bike go. Streetbob 114 is my favorite though. Some people are doing the 131 kit on the Street Bob!
Guy at the dealer told me the fastest besides the vrod is the rocker c
I am not familiar with that bike but it seems like it would be pretty fast.
2019 and 2020 FXDR 114 is the fastest!!!
2.5 sec 0-60 with a top speed of 160.
Top speed of 160? I assume you mean 160 kph.
These are the quickest (acceleartion), but not a list of the fastest (top speed).
I see what you mean.
@@cycletron Hope you get to watch the King of the Baggers race, like watching the Pike's Peak rally, this seems like a lot of fun!ruclips.net/video/BOFDCnA7zb8/видео.html
@@twotone3471 I will check it out! I watched last year's race and loved it.
these are fast compared to what. my dyna has stage 3 upgrades and I can't smoke anything
Fair point!
Fair point!
Should have got a sportster if you wanna go fast haha
Don't worry about the fastest, now HD is going back to the future with the ICON$ collection! Limited edition eye wateringly expensive bikes that mimic long past models...
Beautiful bike but I had no idea it was going to be $30k USD!
@@cycletron yeah, agree its beautiful but it seems to be going in the exact opposite direction of innovative new bikes. Its almost like HD is desperate for revenue.
@@user-us1hx2cx3j I think you are right about that. Get while the gettin is good.
You talk too much. Talks cheap. / 0-60 don't mean jack in the sonoran desert 🏜️, you never said what's the top speed......,. You're hiding something. Like---- top speed????????? // You mentioned the word seems, sounds like you don't ride them, just talk about them ???
Everyone knows the Gobi desert is where it's at!
@@cycletron why do you try to appease the idiots that comment dumb shit on your videos. The top speed wouldn't change much in the way of which Harley is quicker. Most 114 bikes have generally the same top speed, same with most 107, 103, 98,96,95,88,80,74ci Harleys. These meathead made a comment like he somehow figured some big secret out when really he isn't smart enough to do the math. I bet he doesn't have a bike at all lol
@@jonnymac8925 You are right on the money with your comments!👍
Live wire top speed 110, any sportbike: halfway through second gear 😂
True, but if someone is doing 110 on a Livewire they will soon be needing a charge.😆
I think the new sportster s will crack the top 5
I think you are right about that. I rode it on a demo and it blasts
💯💯💯
Cam on nhieu em Phuong. De lam!
You didn't at all tell us how, "Fast" any of these bikes are. The only mph reference is 60 mph. The time it takes to get there, or the 1/4 mile, is only a reference of quickness not speed. Your title, "Top 5 Fastest Harley Davidson Motorcycles" has not at all been fulfilled.
Fact checked again!
The significance of "Speed" all changes West of Phoenix. 95mph is slow-lane traffick. !!!!!!!
Sounds good to me. One of my bikes ( bone stock) does about 5 mph faster than that in first gear, with 5 gears to go ( not that anyone who can ride would red line it in 1st gear lol )
@@7quicksilver77 it's always good to know though....
@@7quicksilver77 fuck yah! What bike is that? I'm guessing a sport bike of some sort? 100mph in 1st is wild! I love it
@@jonnymac8925 BMW S1000 RR Gen 4. (207 HP, 427 lb wet) Here is a video with one identical to mine. The M package model, which includes carbon fibre wheels. The version available in the USA is not exactly the same full power version we here in Europe get. There are different emission laws in the USA . Those laws are not more strict, just different. So the machine has to be detuned electronically to allow sale in the US. Just to let u know, I also have a cruiser, and I love it. But there is no comparison in performance of any cruiser and a modern sports bike. Maybe the 0 to 60 times are similar due to several reasons regarding simple physics, but that's it. Apples and oranges brother. ruclips.net/video/GA-7KpW8eKw/видео.html
Harley’s and power, lol. How quaint.
What Kind of Drugs are you on? You said Harleys are faster than most Americna Muscle cars? My '79 Z-28 Camaro does the quater mile @ 12.25 @ 111 MPH .. One time I passed a Gang of Bikers and they Tried to chase me you know what kind of a Joke that was? My Camaro Tops out at 150 MPH .. I don't know if any Harleys can do over 120 MPH ..
BAck in the Early 1980's the Fast bikes were Kawasaki 900 and 1000.. They both topped out at about 130 to 135 MPH m The could almost stay with me 130 MPH then I pulled away and left them .. Now days many 1 Liter Sport bikes with Fairings can do close to 200 MPH ..
The new Camaros and Corvettes at Governed at 180 MPH .. but you can reflash the ECM's and go faster..
The HD V-Rod was like 120 HP Yamaha V-Max is 183 HP I think to the rear wheel.. Suzuaki Hayabusa's will do well over 180 MPH .. I forogt their Stock HP
This must be just based on opinion
If I'm going to buy a crotch rocket from Harley it would have been a buell I just don't like electric vehicles. That includes a nerd Tesla. There is no replacement for displacement
The build quality on Teslas are horrible. I have no interest in buying an EV and having to worry about driving range among other issues.
Sportser s
You can take that live wire push it off the side of a cliff it's not a real Harley. I don't like electric nerd mobiles and I'm not a tree hugger. But if you like electric bikes wear it out
There's fast and then there's quick...Somewhat different. I think the PA will beat all of them overall. Electric vehicles aren't always great at high speeds. I was reading about Teslas on a road track and they can suffer performance issues, meaning when pushed to the limit, the first lap was good, second not so much. Try looking at the LA County Sheriff's evaluation of vehicles as well as the Michigan State Police. They break out the performance numbers in all sorts of increments as well as lap times, top speed, etc. www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/TestResultsCombinedMY2020_666841_7.pdf and lasd.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/2020-Motorcycle-Test-Booklet_032420.pdf
Yes I don't think Tesla have done too well at Nurburgring whereas Porsche dominates there. I think I was a little loose with my language on fast versus quick.
@@cycletron Electric will be the future, but I don't find it interesting.
Don't read, Ride !
@@mikeernest1764 why not? I’m not illiterate.