They should just have made so its part of his kit, press a button during the attack to have him spin dealing AoE dmg but a little less than now and make so an enemy that gets hit by the attack without interruption or a small time frame recieves more dmg with each hit. Everyone gets to use the spin, he gets better overall.
8:58Considering that they are all only 4 stars, it is not suitable to be a precedent. An even better precedent is Ayato, who is also a limited 5-star Hydro DPS. When he first released in 2.6, his stiffness from hitting enemies with a continuous slash caused his E-skill to last longer than theoretical, but miHoYo was quick to say that it was a known bug that would be fixed in 3.0.
GREAT example, thank you. Two patches before rolling the fix out is a little longer, but the notice and communication is the most important part for setting player expectations.
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I’ve noticed in the 4.1 abyss some enemies spawned in a triangle, basically encouraging spin to win. Same thing with the vibro-crystal event day with trial Neuvillette available. Also, I don’t think it’s really a big problem. Genshin combat is diverse enough that future hydro dps can still excel without overlapping with Neuv. Things like single target, hydro app, healing, and shielding. As long as Hoyo isn’t part of the crowd that thinks “Neuvillette is the exception and no one should ever come close because of lore/powercreep”
Yeah, Spin to Win STOMPS multi wave content and some of the latest abysses have featured four waves of enemies! On the whole Hoyo does do a pretty good job with balancing characters (think about how many 1.0 chars can still clear).
Nah after 7 months that's a FEATURE there's are laws in china cuz of nerf like this T-T also I don't think they nerfed him for mulani don't take something as malice when it can easily be taken for incompetentcy
It certainly became a feature! I definitely read it more as a mistake than intentional, but I found the situation interesting because it’s not a common type of mistake for them to make. They are normally very on-top of highly-visible bugs.
I heard someone suggest that the reason why they rolled in the fix was because Natlan characters, who have exploration related gameplay, probably have a limit to how much they can rotate. They probably adjusted Neuvillette's movement so that it would fit in more with those characters. So it was done to make Neuvillette more in line with those characters.
i have him c3 r1....never used spin to win and yes i saw people doing it after 2 days his release. play him mono hydro :P no VV anemo, pure hydro with furina
Great video as always !! I think Hoyo was ok with the "bug" because they perfectly knew how it will affect players interest in pulling for Neuvi, even without spinning Neuvillette is still the best dps in the game but they choose to keep his spinning tech because - 1) It will make more players interested in his banner because of this tech, 2) More big spenders will pull for c6, they intended to not fix it until the rerun because it will affect the income, (everyone who haven't got him on the release will think it's safe to pull and the spin tech won't be fixed). Also it is in my opinion very likely that they wanted to nerf him because of the future hydro dps characters releasing in Natlan/Ver 6. Without making future characters just better then Neuvi because that would shatter the powerlevel of the whole game.
They certainly made a LOT of money off of Spin to Win on his rerun! The bug was worth millions of dollars to them. Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the vid. 🙂
Dude is the Hydro Dragon Souverin. It should be okay for him to be OP. Based on lore, he should be a whole new level... Spin to win is also borring to use all the time (taking out the challenge completely also takes out the fun). I never used it out of that reason... But yes, many gor him judt for that feature. Especially whales... When the cashflow was srill connected to it, Hoyo clearly had no issue with this bug. Otherwise it wouldn't have taken so long for them to fix it (with a halfbaked solution). And at leas they would not have been sly about it (no notice that it is a knoen issue, judt boom we changed it). They realized it is a real problem when wanted to debute a new hydro catalyst and the "why would anyone spend money on this when there is Neuvillette" issue became obvious... So it is about Mualani in a way (how will they break the bank with her otherwise)... They made her as cute, modern and kinda sexy as they could. But it won't be enough... So... They intentionally tried ro fix this bug in a way that broke Neuvillette. Then people would need to get the new hydro catalyst (oe others after). They also put 4 stars which have nothing to do with the featured 5 stars because they wantt to make you pull on every banner... But they overdid it and Neuvillette became near unplayable so they had to go back...
Is that why Mualani was so much busted in the previous iteration on the test server? Because they need to make her more busted than the spin2win Neuvi? Then they decided to dial her back and nerf Neuvi instead?
We can’t say for sure what Hoyo’s motives were, but a lot of people did think the nerf was because of Mualani. I’m not so sure. Mualani was revealed to us only recently but they would have known for far longer internally what her kit does and how they wanted her to compare to Neuvillette.
There can't fix Neuvillette if wasn't late (I have Neuvillette for me the spin 2 win isn't a Bug anymore). problem is that when Mualani enter the game and nerfed or fix this "BUG" WTF is that marketing.
There is one simple way to counter spin2win.
Bring back single target waves in the abyss floors, make them more prominent.
They thought they can nerf Chief justice of Fontaine.
Neuviliete the GOAT gave everyone 10 pulls too, gigachad
So true. Have you thanked Monsieur Neuvillette for 10 pulls towards your Natlan funds?
They should just have made so its part of his kit, press a button during the attack to have him spin dealing AoE dmg but a little less than now and make so an enemy that gets hit by the attack without interruption or a small time frame recieves more dmg with each hit.
Everyone gets to use the spin, he gets better overall.
Their first mistake was messing with an archon. Their second was with sovereign. Maybe dont touch archon and soverign lol
8:58Considering that they are all only 4 stars, it is not suitable to be a precedent. An even better precedent is Ayato, who is also a limited 5-star Hydro DPS. When he first released in 2.6, his stiffness from hitting enemies with a continuous slash caused his E-skill to last longer than theoretical, but miHoYo was quick to say that it was a known bug that would be fixed in 3.0.
GREAT example, thank you.
Two patches before rolling the fix out is a little longer, but the notice and communication is the most important part for setting player expectations.
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Great vid!💜
Thank you!!
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People are still discovering Haruhi in 2024 - awesome! It’s definitely a classic.
And thank you for the kind words.
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I’ve noticed in the 4.1 abyss some enemies spawned in a triangle, basically encouraging spin to win. Same thing with the vibro-crystal event day with trial Neuvillette available.
Also, I don’t think it’s really a big problem. Genshin combat is diverse enough that future hydro dps can still excel without overlapping with Neuv. Things like single target, hydro app, healing, and shielding. As long as Hoyo isn’t part of the crowd that thinks “Neuvillette is the exception and no one should ever come close because of lore/powercreep”
Yeah, Spin to Win STOMPS multi wave content and some of the latest abysses have featured four waves of enemies!
On the whole Hoyo does do a pretty good job with balancing characters (think about how many 1.0 chars can still clear).
Nah after 7 months that's a FEATURE there's are laws in china cuz of nerf like this T-T also I don't think they nerfed him for mulani don't take something as malice when it can easily be taken for incompetentcy
It certainly became a feature!
I definitely read it more as a mistake than intentional, but I found the situation interesting because it’s not a common type of mistake for them to make. They are normally very on-top of highly-visible bugs.
I heard someone suggest that the reason why they rolled in the fix was because Natlan characters, who have exploration related gameplay, probably have a limit to how much they can rotate. They probably adjusted Neuvillette's movement so that it would fit in more with those characters. So it was done to make Neuvillette more in line with those characters.
i have him c3 r1....never used spin to win and yes i saw people doing it after 2 days his release. play him mono hydro :P no VV anemo, pure hydro with furina
I am disappointed you didn't mention Sigewinne. She got the short end of the stick by getting the Spin to Win nerf on her burst as collateral.
Aw, I’m sorry! I guess Hoyo should have rolled her targeting behavior back too. They did her a disservice with her kit, didn’t they?
I am glad u didn't mention Sigewinne. F her
Wait, so was spin to win initially possible with her? I didn't even know 👀
@CritsVG - No, her burst has always had the same rotational speed cap that they “fixed” Spin to Win with.
Hey where's my mean Sygewinne comment, it got removed
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Great video as always !! I think Hoyo was ok with the "bug" because they perfectly knew how it will affect players interest in pulling for Neuvi, even without spinning Neuvillette is still the best dps in the game but they choose to keep his spinning tech because - 1) It will make more players interested in his banner because of this tech, 2) More big spenders will pull for c6, they intended to not fix it until the rerun because it will affect the income, (everyone who haven't got him on the release will think it's safe to pull and the spin tech won't be fixed). Also it is in my opinion very likely that they wanted to nerf him because of the future hydro dps characters releasing in Natlan/Ver 6. Without making future characters just better then Neuvi because that would shatter the powerlevel of the whole game.
They certainly made a LOT of money off of Spin to Win on his rerun! The bug was worth millions of dollars to them.
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed the vid. 🙂
Neuvillette is must pull for a lot of player.
@@yoiko89 Yes, even without the spin to win tech he is broken
Dude is the Hydro Dragon Souverin. It should be okay for him to be OP. Based on lore, he should be a whole new level...
Spin to win is also borring to use all the time (taking out the challenge completely also takes out the fun). I never used it out of that reason... But yes, many gor him judt for that feature. Especially whales...
When the cashflow was srill connected to it, Hoyo clearly had no issue with this bug. Otherwise it wouldn't have taken so long for them to fix it (with a halfbaked solution). And at leas they would not have been sly about it (no notice that it is a knoen issue, judt boom we changed it). They realized it is a real problem when wanted to debute a new hydro catalyst and the "why would anyone spend money on this when there is Neuvillette" issue became obvious... So it is about Mualani in a way (how will they break the bank with her otherwise)... They made her as cute, modern and kinda sexy as they could. But it won't be enough... So... They intentionally tried ro fix this bug in a way that broke Neuvillette. Then people would need to get the new hydro catalyst (oe others after).
They also put 4 stars which have nothing to do with the featured 5 stars because they wantt to make you pull on every banner...
But they overdid it and Neuvillette became near unplayable so they had to go back...
Is that why Mualani was so much busted in the previous iteration on the test server? Because they need to make her more busted than the spin2win Neuvi? Then they decided to dial her back and nerf Neuvi instead?
We can’t say for sure what Hoyo’s motives were, but a lot of people did think the nerf was because of Mualani. I’m not so sure. Mualani was revealed to us only recently but they would have known for far longer internally what her kit does and how they wanted her to compare to Neuvillette.
I was thinking to pull C2 Neuvillette or C6 since i have C1 already.
C1 is enough
What is your Avg charge attack ?
You earn sub
If you spend 100s of dollars to C6 a 5 star, you deserve to get scammed.
Yea big mistake there. They could have published the Known issue a long time ago. But hey we live and we learn.
360 neuv is best
There can't fix Neuvillette if wasn't late (I have Neuvillette for me the spin 2 win isn't a Bug anymore). problem is that when Mualani enter the game and nerfed or fix this "BUG" WTF is that marketing.
Does this literal bleep in existence, of Genshin's entire livetime really need so many youtubers milk it? How much can be said about this?
the problem the BUG is a problem now if because they want to sell another hydro catalist
i think hes fine the way he is. total drama over nothing once again. i dont know if they do that intentionally to generate traction but it's dumb