Destiny Defends Tristan Tate Against Sneako
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- DEBATE: Destiny debates Sneako and defends Tristan Tate's take, Adam22's OF decision and more...
Date: 4 July, 2023
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00:00 Teasers / Intro
00:45 Tristan Tate's take on JQ
03:09 Destiny defends Tristan Tate's take
08:05 Black culture
14:15 Redpill lens
18:08 Adam22
26:21 Incest and beastiality are irrelevant compared to women issues
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#politics
#debate
Andrew Tate CHARGED, Tristan Messages Destiny
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yo august can u put dgg chat in the videos at least plsss
Are you playing RuneScape?
have a conversation with ryan dawson my guy , at the very least have debunk that loser about his conspiracy theories over 9/11 , he made a three part series with fresh and fit already and he surely seems like an insane conspiracy theorist
After you talked about the Jewish question I just searched for the population of Jews and I got a number like 16 million.
Then I searched for the world population and came up with something more than 7 billion.
Well, if 16 million people can beat up and control the billions of people, then shame on the billions. They don't deserve anything. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I wonder if this guy doesn't read or just another Islamic scriptures illiterate that has never read the authentic sources of Islam. It looks like he wants put some dirt on other people and claim moral superiority. He needs to read the authentic Islamic scriptures from among the top most trusted sources before he goes around talking rubbish.
If I pull some dirt on this guy he will....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Here are some of the things that shari'a (Islamic Law) allowed or considered moral from the most trusted Islamic sources. Some of which are hard to find in English.
1. Raping married women.
2. Snatching somebody's wife.
3. Father having sex with his biological daughter.
4. Multiple poor men contributing money and buying slave girl for sex among them. Sharing the girl for sex.
5. Marriage with expiration date or temporary marriage. You give some something to a woman to arrange for marriage that lasts for a month or maybe less than a month. I am talking of Sunni here. But it applies to both Sunni and Shia. I am just going according to authentic scriptures written hundreds of years ago.
Here is scripture reference for number 1. The others will probably be next.
Sunan Abi Dawud: 2155
Sunan Abi Dawud: Book 12, Hadith 110
Sunan Abi Dawud: Book 11, Hadith 2150
12 Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah).
(711)Chapter: Regarding Intercourse With Captives.
Abu Sa’id Al Khudri said “The Apostle of Allaah(ﷺ) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of Apostle of Allaah (ﷺ) were reluctant to have relations with the female captives because of their pagan husbands. So, Allaah the exalted sent down the Qur’anic verse “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hand posses.” This is to say that they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period.
Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)
Jami` at-Tirmidhi: 3017
Jami` at-Tirmidhi: Book 47, Hadith 69
Jami` at-Tirmidhi: Vol. 5, Book 44, Hadith 3017
47 Chapters on Tafsir.
(5)Chapter: Regarding Surat An-Nisa.
Narrated Abu Sa'eed Al-Khudri:
"We captured some women on the Day of Awtas and they had husbands among their people. That was mentioned to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) so Allah revealed: '...And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess... (4:24)'"
Sahih Muslim: 1438a
Sahih Muslim: Book 16, Hadith 146
Sahih Muslim: Book 8, Hadith 3371
16 The Book of Marriage
(22)Chapter: The ruling on coitus interrupts ('Azl)(22)
Abu Sirma said to Abu Sa'id al Khadri (Allah he pleased with him):
0 Abu Sa'id, did you hear Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) mentioning al-'azl? He said: Yes, and added: We went out with Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, (but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Mes- senger (ﷺ), and he said: It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.
Sahih al-Bukhari: 5105
Sahih al-Bukhari: Book 67, Hadith 43
Sahih al-Bukhari: Vol. 1, Book 62, Hadith 41
67 Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah).
(25)Chapter: "Forbidden to you (for marriage) are: your mothers, your daughters..."
Ibn 'Abbas further said, "Seven types of marriages are unlawful because of blood relations, and seven because of marriage relations." Then Ibn 'Abbas recited the Verse:
"Forbidden for you (for marriages) are your mothers..." (4:23). 'Abdullah bin Ja'far married the daughter and wife of 'Ali at the same time (they were step-daughter and mother). Ibn Sirin said, "There is no harm in that." But Al-Hasan Al-Basri disapproved of it at first, but then said that there was no harm in it. Al-Hasan bin Al-Hasan bin 'Ali married two of his cousins in one night. Ja'far bin Zaid disapproved of that because of it would bring hatred (between the two cousins), but it is not unlawful, as Allah said, "Lawful to you are all others [beyond those (mentioned)]. (4:24). Ibn 'Abbas said: "If somebody commits illegal sexual intercourse with his wife's sister, his wife does not become unlawful for him." And narrated Abu Ja'far, "If a person commits homosexuality with a boy, then the mother of that boy is unlawful for him to marry." Narrated Ibn 'Abbas, "If one commits illegal sexual intercourse with his mother in law, then his married relation to his wife does not become unlawful." Abu Nasr reported to have said that Ibn 'Abbas in the above case, regarded his marital relation to his wife unlawful, but Abu Nasr is not known well for hearing Hadith from Ibn 'Abbas. Imran bin Hussain, Jabir b. Zaid, Al-Hasan and some other Iraqi's, are reported to have judged that his marital relations to his wife would be unlawful. In the above case Abu Hurairah said, "The marital relation to one's wife does not become unlawful except if one as had sexual intercourse (with her mother)." Ibn Al-Musaiyab, 'Urwa, and Az-Zuhri allows such person to keep his wife. 'Ali said, "His marital relations to his wife does not become unlawful."
- Tate: “don’t be racist to Jewish people”
- Sneako: “was Tristan out of line?”
Tate: FInally says something thats not batshit crazy
Sneako: I see you're starting to align more with his views
😂
🤣🤣🤣
I'll be racist to jewish people
Every member of the senate and every president for 80 years has dual citizenship guess which country
I find sneako simultaneously annoying, but I also have a deep respect for him being able to repeatedly come back and chat to steve just to receive a thunderous ass blasting
because he's so dumb he thinks he's making progress on his argument "we should enact Sharia Law". Dude is so corny.
He loves ass blasting and Destiny loves to give them, if you know what I mean
He’s a young man figuring out what he thinks about things. Even if many of his takes are childish, it’s a lot more respectable than a lot of these online dorks pretending they knew exactly how the world worked at 23 years old and not bothering to have the conversation
@@cannongerber3257 ngl he was wiser before he was on this red pill dumb shit
The worry is that he keeps coming back because he never recognizes those blastings as such.
Sneako: Rap is degenerate, its just about murder
Also Sneako: Dances around with a pistol threatening Moist as if he's takashi69
I still kinda agree with him, especially after the whole affirmative action thing. I would rather have minorities in a stable family than minorities put in schools just to let them flunk out. It's like the asian guy in the suit said on that vice panel. If promoting a stable family, doing good in school, not doing crime, etc, is called assimilation, then call me a pro assimilationist. But i guess it is still a little more complicated than just good family. The hood is still the hood...
@@70othl3ss4 White women benefitted more from affirmative action than minorities and not all black people going to college are people from the hood
@@70othl3ss4is the spronanos or sons of anarchy degenerate
@@ANTIStraussian idk. Never watched it
@@70othl3ss4 so you are a rap fan?
Love how Sneako says France is burning and defends Sharia law but conveniently forgets civil unrest in Iran over their morality police.
Of course you gonna riot against a morality police if you‘re not a believer of god.
lol... and everybody knows that the ones defending Sharia are the one burning it right now, helped by the wokes... These islamic redpillers are phony asf. France is FAR from being "the wokest country in the world"... Canada and the US are.
As an ex-Muslim I should say that almost all Muslims are hypocrites.
Also who is burning France? Young Muslims. Srry it's true.
France burning has nothing to do with Sharia Law. There is no civil unrest in Iran but I see that it is "civil unrest" for you in Iran and "france is burning". There is the actually problem
“If you’re a multi-billionaire and Jewish people are blocking you, by all means go on your little crusade” is hilarious
coughs Kanye
@@squashfx The weird thing is, Kanye is right, there are tons of jewish people in high positions in media. Where he fucked up was tying that to some evil conspiracy take over that jews control the world. They just hired their friends, that's nothing new. Muslims hire other muslims, christians hire other christians, just so happens that jews are very successful in business
@@squashfxdon't have to make a gay cake but do have to make nazi shoes
Tristan was spititn' lmao
kanye about to crusade
Saying that Myron pulled out a gun to protect his group because 2 randos were fighting each other near him has got to be the worst defense of Red Pill ideology I have heard this week.
Right, the fight had nothing to do with him
Tristan's reasoning for not caring about conspiracy theories is legit what pulled me out of a conspiracy/grand narrative rabbit hole back when I was younger. I was wondering who was controlling everything etc etc. Then at some point I stopped and realized that even if it all were true, there wasn't much I could do about it other than focus on myself. After that my worldview started to change dramatically.
bro forreal. its such an important hurdle to cross over. if all your conspiracy theories are right, what next? lmao. its a question alot of people dont ask themselves
As much as I hate how Destiny approaches arguments nowadays, it was Destiny who got me out of the alt-right rabbit hole when he argued with Sargon. Back then I was a fan of Sargon and the anti-islam crew but seeing someone having a different opinion and defending it rigorously , gave me a reality check. Grand narrative rabbit holes are real and we need more people to speak out against it.
Lol that's because the Tates are literal intelligence assets, you can do a lot but they say that you shouldn't even care. Pretty obvious they are pushing a narrative of complacency
@@angelicking2890we need people to speak out against researching topics deeper and noticing patterns in groups of people involved in predatory behavior riiight ok
Dude, they killed God and now they rule the world. It's kind of a big deal. It's a little more important than you going on dates and working out.
Destiny out here acting like he doesn't know the rate of domestic violence is higher amongst lesbian couples compared to normal couples
Divorce is higher too
It's still almost inexistant when you compare it to number of women, and the gravity of the harm (getting killed, r*ped etc...) done to them by men, especially spouses and family members.
@@othmaneelmansouri6314 no it’s not😂. First off that’s not comparable because you’re comparing domestic violence to total crime and secondly the logic there sounds like it is literally excusing lesbian abuse rates. That’s definitely whataboutism
@@othmaneelmansouri6314 If you’re gonna bring up solely domestic abuse numbers the facts is most domestic abuse is done both ways by both the man and the woman, a lot of domestic abuse from women go unreported because it isn’t taken seriously and women have a higher rate of child abuse and this is solely with domestic abuse numbers. It is so weird when women will see something like divorce rates being high and blame it on abusive men, and then when you remove men, both the divorce and abuse rate is higher.
@@khaoss4024 You talking nonsense. Of course women can also be abusive both physically and mentally, but the stats are clear and it's not even comparable, especially when you take the physical damage into consideration. Also if you mean by your last sentence taking men away as in a lesbian relationship, then that's a really dumb way to interpret data. And no one brought up divorce btw, divorce is not a bad thing nor is it comparable to domestic abuse.
It is absolutely imperative that destiny talks to Tristan!
It’s his imperative as a woman to talk with Tristan
And it’s so telling that sneako was surprised that destiny still believed and said the same even while talking to Tristan and didn’t dickride him 😃
@@ItsSawyer8I do
nah
Indubitably
As someone who actually lives in the middle east specifically the poor middle east, when Sneako started talking about how good sharia law is and how our countries are not crumbling like the west I almost died laughing.
Sneako thinks the entire middle east is Dubai
@@3000Mover Exactly
"Society crumbling" is when trans people
@@rodiculous9464 is when people get to fuck whoever they want.
I don't know where you live, but can you please explain how sharia law crumbled your society?
Sneako calling marrying a 9 year old consensual marriage is insane
It's the most unbelievable calm made by any religion, I can't believe people defend it
Dude talking like hes trying to end up on a list
And him talking about incest is morally wrong isn’t it morally right in Islam? Since they still practice marrying their cousins to this day 🤮 and they say Islam is back up by science when science proves incest produce mentally retarded offsprings 🤷🏻♀️
SEX with NINE year young girls or SLAVERY is NOT HARAM.
@@mano6706depends on the law of the country and time. Ayeshas age is a heated debate. But maturity does play a part and I think back then that was the average age. So basically the consentual age as Muhammad waited 3 years to consummate. Some people say the history doesn't add up there's not enough evidence the Hadiths compiled 250 years after Muhammad's death so there could be some misunderstanding/mistake/altering words. But for me It's not a big deal as there are at that age it was acceptable and age of consent always changes even now most people fully develop at 25 but 18 is the legal age. So in general it's very hard to put a number but imo 22 is a nice overall age. Muhammed got married in 623 CE but King Henry VIII of England married a 13 year old at 49 In the year 1540. That to me is more disturbing.
as a religious man, I find it sad how Sneako has fallen into using faith as an excuse to persecute people.
He didn't prosecute anyone he told and showed destiny that happiness isn't just purely the dunya or earth and also money like destiny makes it out to be.
@@husseinpoliphilo yeah cuz Sneako is the man of higher thoughts and not money or fame
Holy W
Persecute*
@@SamS-fd5qt thanks, corrected.
sneako really grifting this muslim thing huh
Fits right in.
Absolutely
Lost forever. GG's inshallah brother
he's already being dishonest like most of his islamic brothers. schocking.
Many comments about the jew talk but where is the condemnation of the obvious racist remarks about black people?
Protecting your family doesn’t just mean physically. But even when it does, wealthy people will hire security not be their own security.
Wealthy people keep their families safe by the money they have. The money leads to safe neighborhoods, safer cars, best medical care, safer working conditions, etc.
U sound like a coward. Money won’t save ur cowardice
Right, and none of that is specific to gender, so if we're talking wealth, a wealthy woman could do all of that
Not even just the wealthy but middle class and upper middle class people are almost always going to call the police to settle and handle disputes
@@hunterlurvey698 What's the statistics on divorce when women out earn men? I'm sure they could.
@@hunterlurvey698 theoretically, but women will almost always be more vulnerable and as a result will usually take the role of being protected. A guy doesn't have to worry about all that as much, as he can usually protect himself.
The reason why sex is wrong outside of marriage is because it is people using people as pleasure objects. It’s morally wrong because if the you make it a habit to treat people as pleasure objects you will lose the ability to love people for who they are. It’s the fall of the materialist who thinks they can gain the world by abusing and manipulating people to obtain pleasure from them. That is not love. And in the end it will lead the person into disaster.
I can completely agree, it’s an amazing rule that should be followed by everyone.
I almost always disagree with Destiny, but he think pretty clearly and is intellectually honest. Pretty rare these days.
32:45 If Sneako is serious and his happiness comes from God and not from the worldly luxuries he enjoys, he should join a monastery and become a monk
You’re imposing a Christian understanding of God and contentment on Islam. Islam never requires you to become a recluse and celibate to show appreciation to God quite the contrary as a matter of fact. Islam actually preaches seeking succes in both this life and the hereafter……
@@goat3025 the point still stands; if he doesn't get his happiness from his worldly luxuries, doesn't like the technology of West and all that, then why doesn't he take his ass off grid somewhere and live like that. If he's gonna preach his Muslim morals at everyone about sex and black culture and all that, then he should go live that life himself
@@goat3025The Koran also records Mohammed splitting the moon in half
@@Ktmfan450 The holy book of islam is just marvel if you're in the dunes, sucks they take it so seriously
Or become an Imam and walk around circling that black block all day.
Its very interesting to hear how people can hear someone agree with a point that someone makes and immediately go to thinking that that person wholeheartedly agrees with everything that the person says. I can agree with some things a person says and still think they are a criminal! Its not all or nothing…
That segment pretty much summed up the left vs right in American politics
You mean if someone says "Trans women are women," they aren't necessarily a good person? 😮
@taebron trans issues are more often than not hyper focused on by disingenuous people who, on either side, are unwilling to even acknowledge why the opposition believes what it does. Atp I don't take anyone serious nor ascribe virtue to them when it's a trans topic being hammered on ad nauseam
You're not trying to grift though. You can't have nuance in the grift or else people don't fully believe in you.
Its bizarre that it’s becoming normal human behavior.
I mean, I guess I’ve met people that act that way when presented with a single common agreement, but I’ve also met people that like to literally eat shit.
Anyone that would automatically assume you’re on “their side” because you agreed with a single thing they said is probably completely unstable and maladjusted.
That’s just not a normal way of thinking, lol.
I feel like this weird, terminally online way of thinking is slowly starting to actually bleed into everyday life for some people, especially younger people, and it sucks ass.
I absolutely hate when I’m listening to Destiny who I tend to agree with the majority of the time and then he goes and says something so degenerate, so ridiculous, and so evil. To say that the treatment of animals meant for human food is comparable to having sex with an animal is such a brain dead take. At (634:00)Destiny would lose his mind if someone else made that argument. It is so odd to say that since cows live in inhumane conditions and most people still eat the meat, it really doesnt matter what we do to animals including using them for your own sexual pleasure?!? thats insane My god
Your entire take is pretty delusional
@@TrideepNagg um… it wasn’t my take it was Destiny’s. I’m just criticizing it. What are you talking about?
@@belloftheball4518 I mean, why do you care what happens to animals?
Unless you are a vegan you cant criticise destinys take here.
"People inherently know incest is wrong."
Sneako, do you know how high the incest rates are across the Muslim world? Like, not trying to hate here, but it's high af.
Muslims have the highest % of cousin marriage I believe
Destiny is on the money about what's alluring about conspiracies. They make you feel like you're privy to information that few have.
How you know most destiny fans are 20
I agree with what you said, but doesn't all truth start with just a few having/learning that information? The thing about conspiracies is that they make you want to go deeper down the rabbit hole.
Lots of conspiracies have been proven to be truth!
@@tekkertruth125699% are bs
@@tekkertruth1256 a broken clock is correct twice a day
Sneako: * Illogical statements *
Destiny: * Logical argument *
Sneako: How can you attack my * illogical statements * with * logic *? That's * insert fake trendy religious indignation *
Basically.
Incest and Beastility is ok?
@@peaceinthemiddleeast Yes obviously. You must be weird if u think bonking ur sister isn't okay or getting assblasted by your dog isn't okay
@@peaceinthemiddleeast Incest yeah, bestiality probably no in at least half of the cases because I don’t think animals can consent. Unless you’re just presenting your genitals to the animal to do what it wants with it, I don’t think bestiality is ok
Sneako: "So you think bestiality and incest are okay?"
Destiny: "Changes subject"
Destiny saying bestiality shouldnt be illegal has to be his worst take. Im kinda shocked right now. And its something that no one is calling out? WTF?
Yeah I think when you argue enough you kind of go into autopilot and argue for things they don't really make sense. Especially when you are arguing with someone you really dislike. Terrible take. Animals can't consent. Just because we do fucked up things to them doesn't mean we can do other fucked up things to them.
@@RoseColoredIris Exactly. Not only should the focus be on whether they can consent but also if he thinks that meat production and consumption is equally terrible then he should argue that BOTH should be *illegal* rather than BOTH *legal* . This is horrible. Really fucking bad take. Not least because its going to ruin his reputation if circulated enough.
@@DJ-ov2it I doubt it would ruin his reputation. I think what you said is actually what he believes: that meat production and bestiality are both bad. Like, how can we take the moral highground and say bestiality is this terrible thing when millions of animals live pretty horrific lives under the current system we have. At the end of the video he expands on it a little more. Bestiality is a very niche things that rarely happens while the atrocities that go on in meat production are hugely ingrained in our society.
@@RoseColoredIris still, by that logic, if there were many countries or even western countries in which killing children for meat consumption was legal, child rape should also be legal. Its just beyond barbaric nonsense for Destiny to take that position.
@@DJ-ov2it I think his point was that if you are ok with killing children for meat consumption, it is disingenuous to take the moral highground by stating that child rape is bad. I think his argument was more about moral consistency.
How isn't any of these comments talking about destiny being ok with beastility what the fuck
He doesn't really care about animals so it makes sense. Also, fcking animals is not a big thing and doesn't happen that much so it's probably irrelevant for him.
he says if you can torture and consume animals and that being still alright morally then beastality must be the same right. I think torturing is way worse
@@nozers Consuming animals have a purpose, you consume them in order for you to survive, it's basic instincts, you need the protein and ingredients to have a healthy body. Most people who go vegan have to take a shitload of pills because their body starts to fail. Consuming animals for the purpose of living is not the same as raping them for your pleasure.
30:00 he says that being a lesbian is better to avoid men cause of domestic abuse but Destiny forgets lesbians have the highest rates of domestic abuse out of all relationships
Right?
@@neverbackdown1918 yeah and i think the happiest relationships are specifically white men with black women
He has no idea what the fuck he is talkin about lol
This is a myth. Bisexual male and females are actually the ones who experience the most domestic violence.
If your referring to the most common study people cite, it includes lesbians previous heterosexual encounters. It doesn't say lesbian relationships are the most violent.
so how many women are killed in a relationship with a man vs a woman? same for r@pe. do you have any stats?
The real reason Destiny cant talk to the Tates is because as a women is worred about being trafficked.
I couldn’t agree with Sneako more. How can Destiny stand on such a moral high ground while saying torturing animals for your own sexual pleasure is perfectly fine and he doesn’t care about that and then pretends that woman are mistreated in society today.
The left wants no shame for anything because their lifestyle is so shameful
I think he meant instead of focusing on that when we already do horrible shit to animals and also breed to kill them isn’t his focus point being that society already deems the rest okay and that he would rather focus on peoples problems thah animals problems. No I also agree with you that some odd shit and one of the places I disagree with him. But would you put more focus on sexually abused animals or sexually abused people because their already a huge push back for humans on that same front. I mean you can’t play the moral ground saying animals deserve more thought and protection than humans. But yea hella weird take from him. But that shit ain’t nothing to do with the left and I don’t even claim to be left. But that’s the same side that tend to fight for a ima rights the most to so. I mean if that’s the case the we can also say the right advocate to treat women less then they are.
Tristan and Destiny having a conversation would be an interesting conversation and a pillar against echo chambers in todays debate and philosophy space.
Every time I look at Tristan Tate, I get confused and believe that Andrew Tate grew up.
Its so funny watching destiny explain things to sneako for him to have it all go over his head and him not even think about it for a second haha
I've learned that Sneako does this thing where he will pose a question to Destiny, and Destiny will answer the question and at the same time in his answer, he's critiquing Sneako's position. Sneako then will reframe his position in a slightly different tone and context. It happens over and over and it's so frustrating to watch. Like, he doesn't get the answer he wants so he just moves it around a little hoping for a different answer.
The dude said Beastiality is ok and you just ignored that ? Lmaooo let me guess you don’t go outside and just watch Destiny lol
@@officerricky3230he said he doesn’t care as it’s something almost no one thinks about and we do far worse to animals anyway. He didn’t say it’s okay.
@@capo4ever334 He literally said yeah go for it. Any reasonable human being would go “it’s fucked up what we do to animals already and we also shouldn’t fuck them” no one goes “ooh yeah Idc we already kill them so it don’t matter” the fact that you think that people would think that train of thought is ok shows me you a fanboy. Beastiality is not ok, Idc if we already kill animals. Why add to it ???
@@officerricky3230 you have the comprehension skills of a toddler.
I do think Sneako has a point around 20:00 regarding their child being bullied. I don’t think the BBC aspect plays much part in it, but I do think Destiny is pretty disconnected from the weight in society of a woman cheating (or filming porn) in comparison to a man doing those same actions. Nathan will undoubtedly be bullied because of Destiny’s open relationship assuming other kids learn about it. Adam22’s daughter will be bullied more because her mom filmed with other men as opposed to other women. It’s unfortunate and it shouldn’t be the case, but it’s a huge attack vector from other children.
Either way she's getting bullied if her mom is newd online. Because parents won't stop their kids from getting prawn access
The problem is with bullying. Kids will bully for anything, or will make something up if they can’t find anything.
I got bullied for being Asian in jr. high. I’m white. Kids are dumbasses.
I think Destiny just doesn’t want to bother engaging too deeply with Sneako on it bc he knows Sneako’s mind is fkd. The point he’s choosing to focus on is where Sneako is overly preoccupied with people’s private business. Even when Sneako is occasionally right about something, it’s usually for the wrong reasons.
That’s very true, even among friends with kids. Like if someone’s son friends found out they were a furry it would immediately become their “in” joke, even if they aren’t meaning to be mean
You shouldn’t stop living your life just because some kids are assholes
32:00 How Sneako determines which countries are the happiest is by how happy the men are and only the men apparently.
yup, most women there don't have a voice to speak their mind so you're spot on.
Oh man I'm so glad Sneako is back - Said by absolutely no one ever in the history of time.
Yes because having pxie bore us to sleep is wayyy better
@@user-xv6ig2yp3z would actually love some content with pixie
@@user-xv6ig2yp3zwhy is it her or sneaker only? This is your brain on bad content.
@@ChillAssTurtlehe used the hard R. Sneaker
I don’t mind him
23:13 it’s hilarious that sneako asserts that women are ok with men cheating but immediately empathizes with “getting traumatized” watching their partner have sex with someone else since it happened to him 😂
He brought up an example with two girls where one gets traumatized after seeing their boyfriend have sex with the other. What are you talking about?
@@soapy9446 i’m talking about how, in response to that example, sneako immediately says “she got traumatized” which is similar to how he describes his own reaction to watching his girlfriend get railed. then immediately starts trying to to justify how it’s different for women and they dont care if guys cheat even if it’s traumatizing. do you still not understand or do you need me to explain further?
@@perfectiondreamusa Oh I see what you mean. I misinterpreted your original comment mb.
How do people think he's smart lmao
@@skullingtonfx4441 Young men with egos and raging hormones.
to the comment section: so we aint going to call destiny out on the incest and beastality? is this your king?
Bro I know what the fuck 😂😂
I agree with destiny on a lot but damn you don’t have to be right or on the opposing side to every topic. Just agree and say it’s not ok to have sex with animals😂😂
But if you say its not okay to have sex with animals its literally impossible to defend consuming them. You have to either be okay with both or against both. Believe me I have been in this argument a lot of times and anyone who eats meat can't stay consistent because you just can't. Since its a fact that you can do well without animal products(look at vegans) that automatically makes it impossible to defend beastiality when you eat meat
These redpill guy talk about men and women dynamic like they're living in prehistoric time.
I love how sneako tries to moral grandstand “you don’t care about fucking animals?!???” While destiny reminds him that his red view of woman is the one who destroys society and brings harm a lot more.
It’s not either or
Trying to make a “what about this” when bringing up beastiality and incest is the dumbest argument ever
So you didn't react at all when he was like beastiality was ok
@@guilhermeabreu6838 They just ignored this. Imagined if someone in the red pill said that shit 😂🤣🤣🤣
@@officerricky3230 he only brought it up because they were already on the subject of taboos, and because he had been having the same conversation with other people. Also, Destiny was the first one to bring up fucking animals here for some reason, even if it was in a different context.
Wasn’t the Tate’s “The Matrix” the way to avoid accountability, blame others for their misfortunes, and say the world is out to get you, keep you down, make you docile, weak, a sheep and prevent success?
They are scared and have to shill for the jws
Destiny said that people who obsess over conspiracies are often losers who perpetuate a negative and debilitating narrative
Bruh… correct… but that has nothing to do whether they’re true or not. Literally nothing.
I’m reasonably successful and somewhat of a ‘winner’ at the moment but if someone is spending 12 hours a day researching something that I don’t look at because I’m too busy doing ‘better’ shit, I’m not going to delude myself into thinking they don’t know more than me on that subject…
Sneako is a grifter or not the smartest person.
both. but i just know for a fact that he doesn't understand one word from the Quran. And somehow i don't believe he goes to a real scholar for questions.
Soo true.
Towards the end did Sneako insinuate that a 9 year old could consent
yes, yes he did. he called it a ''consensual'' marriage.
I need a Destiny and Tristan convo.
But Black people had the same social problems before we started making degenerate music.
The Black poverty rate was 50+ percent before the 1960s. It’s like what 18 percent now?
Stop asking logical questions.
Lol, but even our music back then was very meaningful. james Brown, Sam Cook, Marvin Gaye, temptations. All while Jim crow & massacres were going on Sneako only intro to black people is drill rap you can tell he don't know our history , or even how our contributions affect him and everyone daily.
Dude ill never understand why destiny hates animals so much lol. He has seriously no empathy for them, you can tell when he talks about how annoyed he gets when people care about their dogs. Like its kinda sociopathic lol, why bite the beastiality bullet? Sneako was saying such dumb s*** & then destiny actually makes his ridiculous points seem justified, he gave him so much ammunition. Animals cant consent, yes we eat animals but the whole food chain is developed off of that. That doesnt mean we should r_____ animals too..
Rare destiny L take
He’s definitely a sociopath. Just listen to any vid of him talking about morality. It’s evident.
Because Destiny is hedonistic. Funny considering that many societies regress to hedonism when their collapse is near, but Destiny probably disagrees with that too.
Yeah I simply can’t fathom how some people are completely indifferent when it comes to animals. My little nephew is like that. We’ve had pets his entire life but he has no bond or interest in them whatsoever, yet he’s incredibly empathetic and compassionate when it comes to people. I honestly just don’t understand it.
@@ObservetteYeah I've owned a half shitzu half pomeranian for 10 years & that dog is like a kid to me lol. I seriously don't understand it either, it's like something just doesn't compute for them
I agree. I wish he didn't feel this way. It's a bit disappointing.
Wait how is a 9yr old being married off, a consensual marriage? They don’t even know the person lol.
Destiny is entirely to quick for Sneako. After Destiny replies he has to catch his air to collect himself. Every time he thinks “oh we’ll agree on this” Destiny goes “uhh no actually” 😂
29:45 As far as I can see, from the NCADV, bisexual and lesbian women seem to suffer significantly higher rates of domestic abuse.
Similar for bisexual men coming in third after those, but gay men have the lowest rates.
Wrong on gay men but otherwise spot on
@@samuelbailey2000 Oh yeah, exact opposite with gay men. Bisexual men still up there.
I heard somewhere they were asked if they had experienced abuse but not necessarily asked if it was abuse within that said relationship dynamic but I'm not sure, can you remind me?
@@c.karnstein3299 it definitely says "from intimate partner." No clarification on past or present or which side that comes from.
@@keion_arknights many thanks.
Comparing fucking an animal to eating an animal for sustenance as the same thing is such a laughable comparison but also deeply disturbing 🤦🏻♂️ 29:26
But a lot of people in the first world don't eat animals for sustenance as there is vegan alternatives.
We eat it because we like the taste and enjoy it. You're benefiting from the torture of animals for your own pleasure.
@@RealFreedomMG it’s still for sustenance which we need to live. You’re not eating meat and throwing it up on purpose every time just because you like to eat it but don’t want the sustenance you receive from it.
Fucking an animal does not in any way allow for the procreation of human life to keep society going in any way. To try to equivocate these in the same regard is ridiculous.
Yes it’s unfortunate how animals are treated due to consumerism but I bet you still have an iPhone while wearing brand name clothing that put millions of people under terrible conditions of work and living in general so you can get your hits of dopamine daily
@@thedailygripe_ So if someone tortured a person and ate them and said "it was for sustenance" you would find this acceptable?
Even though you don't need to eat people to survive in normal day to day lives. Obviously with exceptions like the rugby player who were trapped on a mountain and genuinely had to eat to survive we wouldn't accept people factory farming peoplem
@@RealFreedomMG lol I already knew you would pivot to cannibalism.
It’s a disingenuous talking point as they are nowhere near the same.
If a chicken and a random stranger were crossing the street and a car was coming and you could only save one which one would you and why?
Do you feel bad for plants that we kill them to eat them? They are alive.
How do you know they don’t “feel”?
@@thedailygripe_ You never answered my question.
Do you think it's okay to eat other people? Let's even use the rugby players who got stuck in the mountain.
Do you not think it's ethical for them to eat people? Why can't we say it's okay to also eat people?
destiny is so out of touch when it comes to black culture and rap and its not really his fault but man he was completely spot off on his points
Tristan Tate will not discuss the Jewish Question in good faith for the same reason that Destiny won't. They know they will get deplatformed and debanked and their careers will be destroyed.
Destiny sure is scared of getting debanked
29:45 Wow thats sad. Destiny should read up on Lesbian relationships.
"The CDC also stated that 43.8% of lesbian women reported experiencing physical violence" - Wikipedia
Why anyone take advice from destiny. Bro literally has no emphaty for anyone.
destiny really fighting for incest and bestiality ?🤢
what, you don't like it?
15:02 sneako you dont even hear yourself, Myron wasnt attacked, a random fight broke out and Myron soyed the fuck out dying for his superman moment, "GET BEHIND ME ILL PROTECT YOU, GUNS ARE LIKE HAVING A HALO SHIELD"
I really don’t understand the “women can’t shoot as good as men”, I have multiple women in my family that are extremely accurate when it comes to shooting moving deer
Right. I really don't know why they think women can't get a gun and protect themselves.
I’m gay
True
@@mandaseesstars im coming to your house to tuck you in
As a person who is a single issue 2a voter and lives and breathes firearms the notion that a man will always be better than a woman with a firearm is laughable. In general probably yes because the bar is super low but any woman can learn to shoot way better than most men. Even having a tiny bit of training automatically makes you better than most people in general
No 2A advocate is shaming women for utilizing guns, stop these lies. The women that participate in the 2nd Amendment are sometimes referred to as mama bears. I’ll let you figure out the rest
Yes there’s also studies that show women and men are equal when it comes to the ability to learn how to shoot and how good they shoot as long as they take it serious and are willing to learn and be coachable. Of course naturally women are more likely to have less interest in guns in general so those women may shoot worse because they aren’t coachable as they have no interest in guns and how good they shoot etc.
Sneako thinks a 9 year old can enter consensual marriage. Always remember this.
31:00 The claim that people under Sharia law are happier is absolutely ridiculous. First of all, there is no freedom of speech at all in these countries. Sneako would be executed in these countries for defending the movie Cuties.
Furthermore, the general quality of life in many of these countries (Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Yemen) is much lower than in Western countries. Saudi Arabia and UAE are doing a bit better, but only because they have huge amounts of oil and the US and China are investing billions of dollars. Sneako has such a distorted picture because he hung out with millionaires in Dubai. He should talk to an arrested journalist and ask that person how great life is under Sharia law
That's a good point, Sneako's all about being free to say what he wants while at the same time thinking Sharia law is a good thing. Those are incompatible my dude.
If my partner was stepping out on me and people found out, I would feel humiliated and ashamed. Being a woman doesn't change that.
No. You're wrong. You're a liar. If a woman says something that contradicts what they believe about women, then they are being dishonest with themselves and others. It is the only way.
Do you not have any confidence in yourself? is it all just centered around having a partner and people not being mean to you?
There is not a single Islamic country in the top 20 Happiest Countries, and not a single religious country in the top 10.
Throwback to sneako vehemently arguing that everyone can be rich if you just work hard enough, now he says the matrix makes such endeavors impractical
It's crazy but it makes sense in black culture. If I don't want too "level up" my mentality or low level mindset I just tease yours. That's what keeps the culture down. That and the "take care of momma". Allow bad parents too extort adult children instead of telling them too go too a doctor or get a job.
Yeh. Exactly, it’s called “ the black tax “ l stopped paying it to avoid further familial extortion then everyone calls me “ mean”
@@supernova7848 Yo, glad you see it, it's bs. Parent's don't wanna do better but it's your fault or you gotta support me.. especially after them not supporting you. Smh. It should be illegal as it is extortion and prevents alot of adult children from being able too leave their parents. And be able too live on their own.
Destiny is not promoting bestiality, he’s basically saying who gives a fuck nobody’s getting hurt it’s such a minute percentage of what’s going on unlike the other guys whole theory about men and women, which is much more harmful.
13:40 I love when Sneako answers his own question mid sentence.
_"They surround themself around that lifestyle to sell more music"_
Sneako seems so miserable... I would love to Destiny's idea of what exactly he would have to do and what would it take to de-brainwash him and bring him off the cliff.
Kind of annoying how Sneako is acting like hip hop is all negative. There are tons of hip hop artist who don't rap about those things. It's the most popular hip hop rappers who you tend to hear speak about the negative things. That speaks more on American culture as a whole instead of just black people.
Is it even the most popular artists doing that? Ones like Drake, Eminem, Kendrick, J Cole, etc. aren't advocating for violence and murder.
@@za-ir5ni True, I should've said the "more" popular artists. Like Pop Smoke, King Von, 21 Savage, Migos, NBA Youngboy and more.
@@za-ir5ni You should listen to some more eminem lol start with "kill you".
Rod Wave is a huge example of no one talking about him, but people listen to his positive songs
Sneako should listen to ill mind of Hopsin 7.
As a Mexican, it would be very funny if we secretly controlled the world lol
Well the sephardis sure gave your country a ride, looks like its being dominated by mormons now.
Imagine bringing up recent French issues with violence, crime and unrest as a Fundamental Islamist and thinking beastality is more of a contributing factor. Also, Destiny ran around that circular courtyard 149 times during that part of the discussion if anyone was looking for the number. Dog sex is a stressful for video game characters evidently.
Bruh I swear these takes that they have in these debates are so simple and easy to decipher.
sneako: "its only a healthy relationship if i am the one who can be violent, gate keep morality, and leave whenever i want."
When destiny talks about violence and degeneracy in rap, he always says violence and degen in “early” gangster rap. Bruh, rap has gotten more violent and explicit… what rappers do these days is form independent labels, and morph them into full blown gangs, or organizations that are directly gang affiliated. These days the music has become the “legitimate” front for the nefarious behavior behind the scenes - drug dealing, pimping, murder - the music these days is like Walter Whites car wash; I say this as someone who has, since about 14, almost exclusively listened to hood-ass rap. Rap is almost the only music I listen to, and I still say this; it’s to the point where half the time I wanna scream “FREE YOUNG THUG,” and half the time I want to admit that the man is a modern day mafia boss, a literal one.
Mafia bosses don’t wear dresses goof.
@@JohnSmith-vy8on Hillary begs to disagree.
Yeah he dosent know what he is talking about. Rappers today are naming who they killed, doing dances to mimick people getting stabbed etc etc
Tristan said he doesn’t care about the people who control his banks then said that day that all of his banks have been closed.
This supposed restaurant fight is ridiculous.1. I’m convinced sneako has his gun for show and never shot it
2. Myron didn’t HAVE to protect anyone and wasn’t forced to step up by virtue of being a man, it was by virtue of the gun. The fight didn’t involve him and literally anyone else could’ve had a gun in there to invalidate that premise.
I cringe a bit when destiny frames allmost everything as 'only you redpillers'. Because some of the parts of this way of thinking is somewhat shared or unpronounced and floats around in some places of the normy realms. Of course Tiny wants to provide pushback, but to frame it as the way he does it just creates somewhat of a false representation in my view
Sneako has no critical thinking skills
If women want to avoid harm, the answer is definitely not lesbianism. Up to 45% of lesbians report having been the victim of an act of physical violence perpetrated by a lesbian partner and up to 50% of lesbians have reported sexual abuse by a lesbian partner.. Vulnerable people are not safe anywhere
"France is Crumbling cause its woke"
Kid France had violent riots & King killing before USA was even an idea. What are you talking about?! 🤣🤣🤣
"The aesthetic is sexy, there is murder"...sneako.
😂
sneako literally cosplays as a new york drill rapper and dances around to their songs on stream
Grift
Dancing to a song means you wanna be like them and live their lifestyle?
@@streetside2833 Yeah when that is Sneako's exact argument as to why they shouldn't make that kind of music
@@streetside2833according to Sneako, yes, he regularly insist that the media you consume should have a message and should build you toward something great
@@streetside2833 well wasn’t he dancing around on camera , brandishing a g u n and threatening to k’ill Charlie ?? Sounds like he was engaging in the “degenerate rapper lifestyle” he’s complaining about ?
Destiny saying things like 'well wealthy people don't care about survival' etc etc. Wealthy people have ALWAYS cared. The Nobility used to carry swords both as a status symbol and as a deterant.
He went from someone with so much potential to a sheep with his head in the sand. It’s disappointing
Ah Sneako. Always changing by blending in with others thoughts.
Yeah personal growth is so fucking cringe dude 🤓
Not as much as Adin ross tho
@@prodxiyuhh yes that's exactly what he meant 🤓
Sneako is a new character every week. This is why you need to mature before you get around maturity
Why does Sneako seem to think people who aren't Islamic are less happy? According to a global survey, the happiest countries in the world are mostly European countries. The only Middle Eastern country in the top 20 is Israel at 4.
You can't simultaneously argue against incest on consent grounds but then come out in favor of bestiality. Animals absolutely, unequivocally cannot consent.
He didn't say he's in favor, he said you can't be outraged by beastiality but then not have a problem with factory farming
@@NATEDO6G he said the difference was with incest, there are spotty issues around consent, based on family dynamics. I think you're not understanding the point of what I said.
@@natediaz1863 slavery? Have you seen what happens to domesticated pets when they are left to the wild? They are usually either starving or rounded up and killed.
Comparing owning pets to fucking animals is a weird one, bruh. There are numerous laws protecting animals, even as pets. It's not morally similar at all.
@@ericeddy02 guess what. If I kept you as a slave you would also be protected and have a more secure life than you would now as you are, but looks like we prefer freedom more than we do security. You're deciding that animals don't want their freedom either.
@@delam617 you're comparing pets to forced human labor. GTFO
Why does Destiny believe being a lesbian is a good way to not get abused? First, same-sex relationships have higher abuse rates than heterosexual ones and secondly, telling someone to become a whole different sexuality to avoid harm is a terrible reason that does not confront the issue of abuse.
lol he literally said the person you're most likely to be abused by is your spouse as a lesbian. His point was that men are the ones committing the vast majority of abuse in society
The first points valid, but he wasn't telling them to become lesbian, he was saying it hyperbolically to make the point that being with a man isn't necessarily good for being protected.
Being single is probably the best way lol
It still tracks. Men are stronger and more aggressive. So just stick to women. What are they gonna do, have a slap fight? Now the only risk is a man randomly attacking them, but since that's not the biggest risk factor for women in society, it's male spouses, then they are still far better off. And also they can just get a gun for protection. Although most gun owners aren't actually all that trained, and simply having a gun increases your chances of getting gun-related injury, so maybe just forget that.
@@usucdikyea as a woman I obviously will receive less injuries in a abusive lesbian relationship as i have a chance to protect myself against another woman, however in a heterosexual relationship im in the mercy of that man.
So getting into a relationship for protection from other men is a dumb suggestion.
I actually enjoyed this debate. Its a display of 2 schools of thought and how they both coincide. If we took out feelings of animosity we could really come to a revised conclusion
When Destiny said a woman should become a lesbian so she can be protected, that's where I question why people follow him. Sneako isn't a good debater. The relationships with the most reported amount of D.V. is lesbian relationships.
Nope. People don’t actually read further into studies and only the headline and it shows. the infamous study states that 43.8% of lesbian women reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners in general, not in lesbian relationships. most importantly, the study notes that out of those 43.8%, two thirds (67.4%) were female (as lesbian women tend to be in heterosexual relationships before they come out). one third was male partners and if we remove the men, the adjusted rate of IPV between lesbians is reduced to 29%. in contrast, 35% of heterosexual women and 61.1% of bisexual women reported physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners in the same study with 98.7% and 89.5% of perpetrators being male. The studies were done on IPV victims and then categorized them by sexual orientation. This also included lesbians who came out later and have been with men before and therefore the abuse from men were categorized to lesbians. Not to mention that the effects abuse from women is far less lethal and damaging then when a man is abusive. It ends more likely in murder, hospitalizations etc. Women have a far better chance of surviving and defending abuse from a woman and women don’t beat up women to the hospital but I can give you hundreds of stories where this happened with women by men. So If sneako would have brought this up he would have just embarrassed himself of not knowing how to read studies and the fact that the effects of abuse are far worse what men do to women.
When you eat animals you kill them and was required to survive for millennia. Having sex with animals is torturing them and beyond sick . Harvesting meat unethical (slow painful) death is wrong also ie factory farms. I really didnt agree with many of destiny’s takes. I hate that im more agreeing with sneako just not from his pseudo religious angle
What are you talking about? Animals feel pleasure from sex with humans too, depending on category of animal. Are you torturing them too with pleasure? The problem with beastiality stems primarily from transmitted diseases, imho.
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Wow, I would NEVER say that in public if I was you, by your logic grape is justified because some women can have orgasm while it happening.
Never thought I'd hear destiny & his fans defending someone's right to sleep with animals
@@tonygange7636 I simply dont care to pursue them legally. Society will not accept this behaviour, that should suffice. And them testing themselves to make sure that they can't transmit diseases.
But we don't need to anymore. Should we base our behavior on something we had to do before but don't have to anymore? I haven't eaten any animal products in 10 years+.
There is no way to guarantee that animals don't have a painful death. People act like hunters hit every single shot 100% of the time. Its quite funny how the missed shots or just crippling animals because they missed is never talked about. Is it okay to torture animals as long as you have a higher than 50% chance of killing them? At what percent is it okay to kill them for pleasure?(Meat)
The beginning part is so true. The real reason so many things go wrong or not the way we hoped is because the world is actual pretty complicated and there’s no satisfying simple narrative that’s going to explain it all.
Destiny's argument about they should be lesbian to avoid violence from a male significant other is ignorant. Lesbian couples actually have a very high rate of domestic violence and its higher than same sex couples as a percentage.
19:10 In one podcast he mentioned that he was earning around 1 mil per month, so his networth is probably well above 10 mil and counting.
I appreciated all of Destiny's takes in this, especially the hip hop part
What about the bestiality thing?
@RoseColoredIris I was mostly focused on the hip hop take. Can't lie, the animal sex thing was kinda off
@@kumasifitts2248 Yeah, its was hard for me to acknowledge his good points because he is arguing with a dingbat like Sneako who has next to zero redeeming qualities. The guy literally advocated for shariah law.
@@RoseColoredIrisThat one is fcked up
He switches from ‘we’ to ‘they’ quite often. It is we when trying to associate himself with black culture so he is ‘allowed’ to criticize it, then it becomes ‘they’ when he talks about negative aspects
Sneako literally laughed and allowed Myron to coplay a member of the KKK on his rumble. We know where he stands.
Most people don't really have an issue with interracial sex/couples in 2023. What we have an issue with is interracial porn because the underlying plot is usually racist (some variant of BBC humiliation gangbang/race cuckoldry which is absolutely cringe regardless if you're white or black). Of course, you can argue that there's black slavery themed pornography, but the BBC/race cuckoldry trope is becoming wayy too common. Also, cuckoldry in general has become way too common in porn, we need to stop pretending some things aren't problematic because "it's kink shaming". It's different to be in an open relationship of equal terms (very rarely happens) and to be cucked.
@@asimhussain8716 Black men shaming black women for dating white men is peak victim mentality. You can't complain about racism on one hand and then be so tribal (our culture, our women, our history etc) at the same time... Let go ffs, it's 2023, not 1955...
White men are mostly memeing but there's underlying insecurity because they fear the BBC stereotype, but no one really cares if white women date black men. You'll never see white people blaming them or calling them race traitors.
Sneako is the epitome of someone that got all their political and philosophical views from 4chan/reddit growing up. His takes are always so surface level.
As opposed to Destiny who sees nothing wrong with bestality and incest?!
That's freedom my guy