The best about Lumo is not only offering low cost prices or comfort but encouraging people use rail instead of flying. I have to say I'm impressed with the bright light above the tray. I believe Lumo will be a hit in the long run as rail travel is far more environmentally friendly than air travel.
I believe this is the intention - to compete with the air in terms of both time and money. It's one of the reasons why it doesn't stop at many intermediate stops: the other reason being that it doesn't challenge LNER's franchise. (Morpeth doesn't affect them, but York, for example, certainly would!)
How long can they hold these prices. It will be interesting to see. No longer than two years unless they can dislodge other operators short term. Then they could hold them for maybe 4/5 years. Get a seat while they're hot
As someone who frequent travels from London, it’s really good to finally see a well done low cost operator. Paying dozens for tickets is certainly irritating so the ability to get to Scotland for just £13 is fantastic!
Well done Dylan, it was an absolute pleasure to watch your video. It's a breath of fresh air to watch your contents compared to other similar videos from other RUclipsrs. Also, thumbs up for changing to voice over in your videos. Good contents, nice information, and we get the perfect feeling that you love and are passionate of what you do !
Not gonna lie i wasn’t expecting much from Lumo, but their trains look fantastic and excellent value for money, it opens up so many opportunities for people with the low cost travel. Great review mate, thoroughly enjoying this wee midweek treat from you!
@@petersmith4455 Thank you for your disparaging response. At 67 years old, I like to know if my train is running late, or if I need to get off at another station in order to catch my next connecting train, or if I need to make alternative arrangements with people waiting to collect me at my destination. This happens regularly on my trips to and from Scotland. Back in the 60s and 70s trains were more reliable apparently.
@@franceswatts4001 hi,thanks, i am 69 so we were both children in the 60s, i remember the trains were more reliable in the 60s and 70s and had decent seating ! and a dining car on long journeys.stay safe.
I agree bright lights in coaches are annoying assault on the senses . When I was Amtrak conductor I always turned off the upper cove lights while leaving indirect lower cove lighting on to create a comfortable and relaxing atmosphere. A few passengers complained now and then, but the vast majority of my riders loved it.
You might find interesting the reason why - the bright lights 24/7 on British rail services are a result of a court ruling saying that CCTV/security cam footage is only valid evidence if the brightness is above a certain level; they need that for their system not to be useless
Looking good to have some competition on the route. If you didn’t know lumo in Finnish language translates to English as “charm”. And it looks like they have charm of their own.
Dylan, thank you for the good video. Like I said before, I'm jealous of the train design in the UK and Europe compared to the ones in the USA. I honestly think yours are better designed than the ones over here. Keep up the good work.
Showing how a train operator should work and how much tickets should cost. This may give LNER a kick up the back side to improve and get better seating installed. Thanks a nice video.
Really ? At least do some research! If a service costs for example £100 you cannot sell it for £30 for too long ...unless of course there are some gov approved shady deals, you know the CHUMS brigade.
@@andrewcoupe9528 smaller overheads mean you can sell your services lower. Personally a ticket from Doncaster to London can cost over 200 return plus parking. Plus connecting travel. That's not cost effective. And I cannot book in advance!
@@andrewcoupe9528 I said a similar thing. Around 400 capacity at £13.10 gives just over £5000 to run this service. Finger in the air guess for costs would be around £8000 and thats before profits so these fares are going to go up a long way over the next few years. I'm all for attracting customers but it seems a lot of people think this is a long term model which it can't be unless someone likes throwing money away.
These trains are by far the best class 800 so far. Nice seats, reading lights and extendable tray table. Oh and the carriage lights are not that harsh white colour. Just goes to show how good the other class 800 could have been.
@@jimmenycricket4598 idk why people always complain about that. I personally don’t mind it much, and I think the older HSTs / Class 91s had way worse ride quality than the 800 series
When I used to commute from Retford to King's X, I always used the tip-up vestibule seats. The seats in the saloon were nearly all reserved for passengers getting on at Peterborough, only 50 mins from The 'Cross. Anyway, those seats were no more than hard plastic with a piece of cloth over them! At least in the vestibule one could stretch one's legs and get up now and then to avoid 'opera bottom'.
I have travelled by train between London and Edinburgh and London and York several times on my trips to the UK and I absolutely would take Lumo. Seems a very comfortable experience, the light above the tray is brilliant, you can't beat the exceptional cost and I actually love the sleek look of the train, coupled with the blue color. Thanks for the excellent review, as always, Dylan!
& maybe fix their seat rearrangement. You should get what you asked for since you got on at the start of the ride. They should upgrade their snacks, too.
Great video Dylan, good fair honest review. Having the voice over really helps, good improvement, also your shot of the ECS arriving in Waverley was excellent and very professional. Train well loaded which is good to see.
Dylan, you're full of surprises! I'm always ready with my coffee on Fridays at 8 A.M. (California time) but now I'm very late indeed. Nice train and full of people, too. Everything was up to your usual standard, very thorough with a nice balance of interior and exterior shots and very smooth narration.
I'm happy to see you showed the crossing over the Royal Border bridge. Sat by the river Tweed many a time over the years when visiting Berwick. The East Coast is beautiful. Will definitely keep an eye out on Lumo, sounds good
That was a great story Dylan Makes me more determined to get to the UK and especially Scotland hopefully next year You are a gem Mick from Tasmania Australia
Now why would leave the best place in Australia :) I'd love to visit the UK, but for me it's expensive enough as it is to get to Tassie, we only take the Spirit, let alone over to the UK. Greetings from Central West NSW.
Beautiful Train, yes, the Livery is Fantastic too, with a nice shade of Blue. A Scottish Piper playing on the departure track... cool...! Awesome Scenery and Landscape... I can imagine this train must smell brand new inside... Excellent video.
Looked pretty packed, which is understandable given the cost and quality. Wonder if this means other LNER services might be a bit less busy? Perhaps Lumo won't have such an impact on LNER due to the small number of trains they have at present?
It will have (ultimately) a devastating impact on LNER. You can't take ten full trains worth of passengers a day off an already government propped up service and not see any consequences. This especially true now, as the the new LNER first class is barely worth the upgrade over standard, and the LUMo trains look to have better seats than the LNER ones.... We can only hope the government give the complete LNER franchise to LUMo to add in to their services. Maybe that is the idea? Otherwise who on earth is going to take on an ECML cherry picked of ten full trains a day passengers by another service when it can't make any money before?
@@legionnairegonk4425 Err No, it will eventually kill the railways if this goes forward. Passengers are just shooting themselves in the foot in the long term.All put forward by shady government polices and funny handshakes....
Thank you for a truly excellent review ! I have yet to try Lumo, but will be taking them to Newcastle at the end of November. Delighted that the seats are so much better than in other IETs - how ironic, as First use IETs on TPE and GWR !
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Such a civilized way to travel. Thrilled to have this new service. Cannot wait to try it. The vast savings on the journey is very attractive. Many thanks indeed for your report. I found it very useful. Cheers
looks really good, hopefully they'll get some routes you can access from Huddersfield. love the lights and sliding table, nice touch. Great video, comprehensive and informative as ever.
I will most certainly give Lumo a go when I travel up to Scotland, it looked like a wonderful ride and the price is unbeatable I would say! Thanks so much Dylan.😉👍🏻
It's worth noting that in order to pass the Department for Transport's tests to ensure they don't abstract revenue from LNER, Lumo's competitors are officially easyJet and British Airways. Seems like they're doing a good job there in terms of both price and comfort!
Why doesn't it stop at Doncaster? There's an airport there. Just checked on a return flight £435. Sure LNER will be beating flight prices even from Edinburgh and Newcastle.
Apparently Lumo isn't allowed to call at York for revenue abstraction reasons, in a similar way that Avanti is pick-up only northbound and set-down only southbound at Watford Junction, and that Wrexham & Shropshire was at Wolverhampton.
Is it Tuesday ? What a treat Dylan....another excellent report and interesting to see fewer facemasks ! Now perhaps for the old like me an awayday Edinburgh and back with Lumo might be a fun idea !
Great video as usual Dylan. Those standard class seats look much better than the rest of the Class 8xx seats which will be a massive selling point in my opinion.
It looks an impressive train. For a 4 hour journey I would always prefer to travel first class, with more space and a calmer atmosphere, but it comes at a cost. It's difficult to see how Lumo can provide the service at the current price. How long will such low fares continue?
Ask Ryanair! That being said, I looked at Edinburgh-London for a trip and there was nothing lower than £69, no better than LNER, as all the cheap seats had been snapped up. Again, similar to Ryanair.
A few points.... 1. Really quite liking the new voice over style. 2. Good luck getting those priced tickets anytime soon. 3. Always found predominantly airline style seats as in the voyages quite claustrophobic but the seat design looks good. 3. A very comprehensive review. Food offering looks lite but then I can't remember last time I bought anything on the train so probably fit for purpose. 4. Finally... Lets get Dylan more subscribers so he gets an invite on any future media trains. He could have got bagpipes and canapes on Thursday
Wow....it's hard getting my head around so many different rail operators in one country ! In Australia, each state has just their own government owned network. Interstate trains are joint funded ( except for the likes of The Ghan, and The Indian-Pacific)
Well, joint but badly funded whilst the tourist trains you mentioned are very expensive. 200kph.....we dont get even half of that and it is a very big country.
The initial idea was that private companies would run services for profit meaning no more Government subsidies. Unfortunately that didn't quite happen and they ended up paying out more in subsidies! In fact it's getting to the point where most of franchises are now Goverment owned and ran.
My biggest gripe on my first trip on one was the little tables were too low for tall people which meant I couldn’t put it flat. The second observation was the tinted glass things were stupidly reflective which made it very easy for people to read your messages etc from the seats behind. But for the price not bad
Travelling on the same train in May, really helpful tips and seems like the best option from edinburgh to london. Looking forward to our train journey now
Very good appraisal. Of course, services on that line (and all others) are at the mercy of Network Rail. If it decides to do a bit of weekend maintenance, chaos usually prevails. I would definitely use Lumor. With the right timetable it could become a major commuter service.
Great video. I agree about having a better system for selecting seats when booking as in your case you ended up with an iasle seat. Even if you get a window seat the chances are you'd end up in one of those spaces between windows where you can't see a thing outside or worse still one of the seats at the end of the coach where there are no windows. What it needs is a diagram of the coach and where the windows are situated so you can select a proper window seat. This is also the case in standard class on all the other operators. Its probably not an issue for those who like to read or watch entertainment throughout the journey but I like to watch the scenery pass by. Apart from that it looks great and am tempted to give it a try at some point.
Great video! I was also on that train between Edinburgh and Newcastle. With railcard, I was only £6-40 day return. However....these cheap introductory fares are only until the end of November, and all the London tickets are gone before the first service ran. Going forward, the extra capacity can only pull fares down, so great that Scotland has its first open access operation! But its not Britain's first low cost operator. Have you never heard of Grand Central? I have to mention more downsides. Your video showed the overhead luggage racks absolutely crammed, as the floor level luggage racks are so few. No wonder they don't mention the bulky luggage areas as these would be overwhelmed. Not all of us are still young enough to lift heavy luggage onto the overhead racks. The catering needs an uplift, and for me the lack of any buffet counter and the need to pre-order most of it is a serious step back. Not being able to choose your seat is a big one for some of us. I think it was East Coast who introduced this many years ago, when it was first re-nationalised. But I plan to do a few more cheapo day returns to Newcastle while it lasts.
Fantastic Video 😃! Unfortunately, the price that you paid for your ticket was only a special offer lasting until 1st December. After that, the prices are very similar to LNER. I'm very keen to travel with Lumo and your video has made me really want to travel with them! I do wish that they had a seat map though which would be really good so that you know which seats are Window seats.
Really? This isn’t genuine competition by any means. I live in Scotland. I go from Aberdeen to Newark Northgate. While I can go into Kings Cross this then means I have to go across to St Pancres station and get another train. Not only is this more expense, it difficult for me to get access to the train at the others stations as I have mobility problems. So unless they increase there stops, this is no use for me. And I’m sure I’m not the only one.
What a great video. Not seen any of your other content, but I'm looking forward to taking a look. Your video has made me want to book with Lumo and visit Edinburgh.
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Open access really has been a success story on the East Coast Main Line. I'm all for scrapping the franchise system, but one pro of the last couple decades has been allowing open access. It's a shame it's hasn't expanded to other intercity routes.
I saw my first one whizzing (well, kind of) through York on Saturday. It looked good in its blue colour. But it was strange to see a train actually not stop in York :(
You don't know what an absolute disgrace is until you see the antiqued rusting disgusting rail transit service in the USA.....we are more than 30 -40 yrs behind......and rail service not available to most of all the country....we depend on cars...
Road with lumo this weekend. Did enjoy it. Staff where super nice and Chatty. Seating was alright. Only gripe train was half hour late and because it will most likely always be busy, can't really get a seat alone.
You managed to get this edited quickly - nice one! I'll be uploading mine later this week, maybe today. Glad we've drawn the same general conclusions on this service - well done Lumo! Oh, and I too booked a window seat and found it was an aisle seat... Must be an issue in the reservations system I guess.
I happened to watch today's departure from Newcastle just before 11am as I awaited the LNER service. My impression was that these 5 coaches were very crowded with people standing... and that would be all the way to King's Cross as it was not stopping anywhere else. That did not seem a comfortable experience for anyone in the coaches and I was surprised you could apparently board without a seat reservation. When I use LNER I bite the bullet and go 1st Class because you have more space (the complimentary snacks are pretty poor) and the fact that there is no premium carriage on the Lumo service is unfortunate. If you would usually travel standard and don't mind very full coaches and little by way of on board food options in exchange for a cheaper priced ticket then I can see the appeal - to go direct from Newcastle to London without three or four additional stops is a definite bonus. If you like more space on a long journey then it is not going to tempt me. How narrow are those arm rests?!
I travel from KGX NCL every three months and have done the journey in first class for over 20 years now. The standard of service has deteriorated progressively over those years and is almost non-existent now. In three weeks time I am booked with Lumo as an experiment! At a price less than one quarter of my usual fare, I can take my own better food and champagne and still save!
Hi Dylan, there is no First Class and no Cafe Bar buffet counter aboard Lumo Hitachi Class 803 trains. The interior layout of the seating seems to virtually be the same as First Great Western/GWR former High Density Mark 3 trailer vehicles in the High Speed Train/InterCity 125 sets. It is nice to finally see an improved seat design aboard the Hitachi Class 800 family. Best wishes and take care. Kind regards, Peter Skuce, St Albans. Hertfordshire.
I know it's a high speed service, but it's a shame it doesn't stop in York of Leeds. I mean, if anybody is going to appreciate a budget train service, it's a Yorkshireman like me!
I travel rarely enough on the train that I prefer to go First class, so LNER is probably still the better option for me. That said, if I find myself needing to travel on short notice then I suspect Lumo will get my custom. It's just a shame they don't stop at either Peterborough or Stevenage at the other end since it makes travelling to East Anglia a lot easier.
Although they are allowed to take passengers from LNER at both termini as customers have a free choice who they book with. Seems a petty regulation to me.
I think it's great that they stop in Morpeth. It is a town that despite being on the ECML has had a rather poor rail service for years. The fact that both these and TPE are now providing additional services between Newcastle and Morpeth must further open up the possibly of commuting between these places by train and taking some cars off the roads.
@@Lakesider52 That's the rules for open access operators, they have to be mainly offering something new rather than simply cherry-picking profitable times to take passengers away from existing services. It's why Hull Trains calls at smaller towns like Grantham but not at Peterborough which is much bigger. The number of LNER passengers going all the way from London to Edinburgh is fairly small compared with the number making shorter journeys, but even so I'm quite surprised that ORR felt Lumo was offering something sufficiently different to give them a licence.
I went to Edinburgh for my holiday on Halloween week. On the last day (today) I went to York when i was heading back home. When I was walking to the Railway Musuem I saw a Lumo class 800 pass by.
Love these new videos. The voice over and seeing your face makes it more personal and I think friendly. Plus I think your video content is much better now too. Keep up the good work. I travel on lner from Doncaster to kings cross occasionally. But the ticket cost is astronomical.
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The best about Lumo is not only offering low cost prices or comfort but encouraging people use rail instead of flying. I have to say I'm impressed with the bright light above the tray. I believe Lumo will be a hit in the long run as rail travel is far more environmentally friendly than air travel.
I believe this is the intention - to compete with the air in terms of both time and money. It's one of the reasons why it doesn't stop at many intermediate stops: the other reason being that it doesn't challenge LNER's franchise. (Morpeth doesn't affect them, but York, for example, certainly would!)
Amen!
Who gives a f about the environment
@@JackJackProductionsShortsanyone with a brain
@@parshakamarsh you mean absolutely no one? If it isn't broken why fix it? There is no need to worry about the environment
The family saying “bye-bye Edinburgh” and the little kid copying when the train departs is so wholesome
And the cude that said ‘Were going to: London!’
It was so wholesome
Btw, it was at 6:55 where they say were going to london
it's great you've gone over to voice commentary - it leaves me free to actually watch the video - and you have a lovely voice XX
It's nice that a new operator shows itself and it's a good low-cost operator.
True. I was kind of concerned this would be like Ryanair, but with trains (Ryanrails?).
Not new. It is a rebranded first group
How long can they hold these prices. It will be interesting to see. No longer than two years unless they can dislodge other operators short term. Then they could hold them for maybe 4/5 years. Get a seat while they're hot
I'm a car nut and would drive anywhere but £15 Edinburgh to London is more than cheap enough
Apparently the £15 fare just runs for 4weeks then the actual cheapest fare will be £30.
As someone who frequent travels from London, it’s really good to finally see a well done low cost operator. Paying dozens for tickets is certainly irritating so the ability to get to Scotland for just £13 is fantastic!
Great to hear your voice, without having to read all those subtitles. Many thanks.
Well done Dylan, it was an absolute pleasure to watch your video. It's a breath of fresh air to watch your contents compared to other similar videos from other RUclipsrs. Also, thumbs up for changing to voice over in your videos. Good contents, nice information, and we get the perfect feeling that you love and are passionate of what you do !
Wasn’t expecting to see you in my subscriptions this morning, a good surprise! Lumo look great and for that price, you can’t beat it!
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Not gonna lie i wasn’t expecting much from Lumo, but their trains look fantastic and excellent value for money, it opens up so many opportunities for people with the low cost travel. Great review mate, thoroughly enjoying this wee midweek treat from you!
Their trains are no different to that off LNER's, TPE's nor GWR's 8xx
Nice to actually be able to hear the PA announcements instead of a faint mumbling, leaving you worrying that you may have missed an important message.
we never had announements in the 60s or 70s.and we got on with it, people are like kids today and cant think for themselves
@@petersmith4455 Thank you for your disparaging response. At 67 years old, I like to know if my train is running late, or if I need to get off at another station in order to catch my next connecting train, or if I need to make alternative arrangements with people waiting to collect me at my destination. This happens regularly on my trips to and from Scotland. Back in the 60s and 70s trains were more reliable apparently.
@@franceswatts4001 hi,thanks, i am 69 so we were both children in the 60s, i remember the trains were more reliable in the 60s and 70s and had decent seating ! and a dining car on long journeys.stay safe.
@@petersmith4455 they also disregarded wheelchair users to the gaurd van or refused them completely don't pretend the past was better for everyone,
Gotta say, I don't think I've ever heard your voice before, but you certainly seem to be a natural!
У него есть ещё несколько видео с озвучкой.
Ruski lol
@@goatgamer001 why?
@@victorastakhov7839 you just ruski not anything
You must be new to the channel as he's done a number of narrated videos
Lumo seems to be well on top of their game! Thanks for the video, Dylan!
I agree bright lights in coaches are annoying assault on the senses . When I was Amtrak conductor I always turned off the upper cove lights while leaving indirect lower cove lighting on to create a comfortable and relaxing atmosphere. A few passengers complained now and then, but the vast majority of my riders loved it.
You might find interesting the reason why - the bright lights 24/7 on British rail services are a result of a court ruling saying that CCTV/security cam footage is only valid evidence if the brightness is above a certain level; they need that for their system not to be useless
@@WatchMeDoMath What a stupid law 😅
Looking good to have some competition on the route. If you didn’t know lumo in Finnish language translates to English as “charm”. And it looks like they have charm of their own.
Hi Dylan, great video and very interesting. The quality of your films has greatly increased since you started the commentary, really good.
Personally think I would rather have these videos without commentary; I find his voice irritating...
Dylan, thank you for the good video. Like I said before, I'm jealous of the train design in the UK and Europe compared to the ones in the USA. I honestly think yours are better designed than the ones over here. Keep up the good work.
Showing how a train operator should work and how much tickets should cost. This may give LNER a kick up the back side to improve and get better seating installed. Thanks a nice video.
Really ? At least do some research! If a service costs for example £100 you cannot sell it for £30 for too long ...unless of course there are some gov approved shady deals, you know the CHUMS brigade.
@@andrewcoupe9528 smaller overheads mean you can sell your services lower.
Personally a ticket from Doncaster to London can cost over 200 return plus parking. Plus connecting travel. That's not cost effective. And I cannot book in advance!
@@andrewcoupe9528 I said a similar thing. Around 400 capacity at £13.10 gives just over £5000 to run this service. Finger in the air guess for costs would be around £8000 and thats before profits so these fares are going to go up a long way over the next few years.
I'm all for attracting customers but it seems a lot of people think this is a long term model which it can't be unless someone likes throwing money away.
@@sparkmeister4706 There is nothing "smaller overheads" about a fully staffed 800-class. Where do you think they saved money? On the paint scheme?
@@siraff4461 For a start Lumo has no cleaners, the train staff are fully responsible for cleaning the train, that's a big cost gone.
Amazing you’ve gotten this up already! Gonna be a great video
These trains are by far the best class 800 so far. Nice seats, reading lights and extendable tray table. Oh and the carriage lights are not that harsh white colour. Just goes to show how good the other class 800 could have been.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but won't the ride "quality" be as poor as on other 800 series trains?
I prefer white lights to warm lights on trains, much more of a modern feels and doesn’t make you want to nod off
@@Thomashorsman I can easily fall asleep on any train regardless of the brightness of the lighting 😉
thats if you like airline type of seats instead of the mk 1 open plan. personaly we think the whole lot can be put in a skip
@@jimmenycricket4598 idk why people always complain about that. I personally don’t mind it much, and I think the older HSTs / Class 91s had way worse ride quality than the 800 series
Really nice review Dylan. Love the ingenious reading light above the fold down table!
Ah, the fightback against ironing board seats starts here! Cheers Dylan 🙂
When I used to commute from Retford to King's X, I always used the tip-up vestibule seats. The seats in the saloon were nearly all reserved for passengers getting on at Peterborough, only 50 mins from The 'Cross. Anyway, those seats were no more than hard plastic with a piece of cloth over them! At least in the vestibule one could stretch one's legs and get up now and then to avoid 'opera bottom'.
The simple all-blue livery somehow feels like the best livery for a high-speed trains
I have travelled by train between London and Edinburgh and London and York several times on my trips to the UK and I absolutely would take Lumo. Seems a very comfortable experience, the light above the tray is brilliant, you can't beat the exceptional cost and I actually love the sleek look of the train, coupled with the blue color.
Thanks for the excellent review, as always, Dylan!
You need to send this to Lumo. Then they will feel rally good about this for good reason.
& maybe fix their seat rearrangement. You should get what you asked for since you got on at the start of the ride. They should upgrade their snacks, too.
@@shirleynitka5030 I agree, but overall it was a great product.
most people probably do. they were probably all booked.
Great video Dylan, good fair honest review. Having the voice over really helps, good improvement, also your shot of the ECS arriving in Waverley was excellent and very professional. Train well loaded which is good to see.
Dylan, you're full of surprises! I'm always ready with my coffee on Fridays at 8 A.M. (California time) but now I'm very late indeed. Nice train and full of people, too. Everything was up to your usual standard, very thorough with a nice balance of interior and exterior shots and very smooth narration.
I'm happy to see you showed the crossing over the Royal Border bridge. Sat by the river Tweed many a time over the years when visiting Berwick. The East Coast is beautiful. Will definitely keep an eye out on Lumo, sounds good
That was a great story Dylan
Makes me more determined to get to the UK and especially Scotland hopefully next year
You are a gem
Mick from Tasmania Australia
Now why would leave the best place in Australia :) I'd love to visit the UK, but for me it's expensive enough as it is to get to Tassie, we only take the Spirit, let alone over to the UK. Greetings from Central West NSW.
Hi from the NSW Central Coast. I’d LOVE to visit Tassie.
When the borders are open December15
Beautiful Train, yes, the Livery is Fantastic too, with a nice shade of Blue. A Scottish Piper playing on the departure track... cool...! Awesome Scenery and Landscape... I can imagine this train must smell brand new inside... Excellent video.
Looked pretty packed, which is understandable given the cost and quality. Wonder if this means other LNER services might be a bit less busy? Perhaps Lumo won't have such an impact on LNER due to the small number of trains they have at present?
They’re going to run like 10 trains a day by the middle of next year I believe
I'm thinking this could be similar to Italo competing with Trenitalia's Frecciarossa in Italy.
It will have (ultimately) a devastating impact on LNER. You can't take ten full trains worth of passengers a day off an already government propped up service and not see any consequences. This especially true now, as the the new LNER first class is barely worth the upgrade over standard, and the LUMo trains look to have better seats than the LNER ones.... We can only hope the government give the complete LNER franchise to LUMo to add in to their services. Maybe that is the idea? Otherwise who on earth is going to take on an ECML cherry picked of ten full trains a day passengers by another service when it can't make any money before?
@@legionnairegonk4425 Err No, it will eventually kill the railways if this goes forward. Passengers are just shooting themselves in the foot in the long term.All put forward by shady government polices and funny handshakes....
@@andrewcoupe9528 spoken like a union rep
Thank you for a truly excellent review ! I have yet to try Lumo, but will be taking them to Newcastle at the end of November. Delighted that the seats are so much better than in other IETs - how ironic, as First use IETs on TPE and GWR !
Great video report Dylan and so nice to see and hear you with such a good informative commentary.......well done!
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I will look into Lumo next time I visit the UK. Thanks Dylan for highlighting this brand new 🚆 train.
Such a civilized way to travel. Thrilled to have this new service. Cannot wait to try it. The vast savings on the journey is very attractive. Many thanks indeed for your report. I found it very useful. Cheers
It feels very interesting watching the video on-board the Lumo, it's like telling the different between LNER & Lumo.
Great report, thank you.
Good luck to Lumo. Hope they do well and extend their service to the WCML.
looks really good, hopefully they'll get some routes you can access from Huddersfield. love the lights and sliding table, nice touch. Great video, comprehensive and informative as ever.
"Lumo, Britain's first low-cost rail operator"
London Overground: *Am I a joke to you?*
The overground acts more as a rapid transport system than it does a national rail operator.
Wrexham, Shropshire and MaryleboneRailway £20 to London. Sabotaged by Virgin.
Lumo is privately owned ain't it?
London overground is owned by TFL thats ran by the government.
hi so nice to see the trains full again, i can not see how lumo can fail.great video as always.brian d
I will most certainly give Lumo a go when I travel up to Scotland, it looked like a wonderful ride and the price is unbeatable I would say! Thanks so much Dylan.😉👍🏻
Plenty of railfans for the first trip between London and Edimburgh.
Great, that you now talk to the videos. That makes watching much more relaxing. I love it.
It's worth noting that in order to pass the Department for Transport's tests to ensure they don't abstract revenue from LNER, Lumo's competitors are officially easyJet and British Airways. Seems like they're doing a good job there in terms of both price and comfort!
The railways were privatized to create comptetion and drive fares down, but now Lumo isn't allowed to compete with LNER! Crazy.
Why doesn't it stop at Doncaster? There's an airport there. Just checked on a return flight £435. Sure LNER will be beating flight prices even from Edinburgh and Newcastle.
@@ClintonBaptiste.Clairevoyant maybe we simply just wait and see what the future holds.
i plan on trying Lumo next year once they've got a more settled service, they certainly look and sound good
Apparently Lumo isn't allowed to call at York for revenue abstraction reasons, in a similar way that Avanti is pick-up only northbound and set-down only southbound at Watford Junction, and that Wrexham & Shropshire was at Wolverhampton.
I wonder if that would be the same for Leeds.
Is it Tuesday ? What a treat Dylan....another excellent report and interesting to see fewer facemasks ! Now perhaps for the old like me an awayday Edinburgh and back with Lumo
might be a fun idea !
Slick train. Hopefully I'll get there to try it myself. Awesome narration. Thanks Dylan!
Thanks a lot for this one, Dylan. Excellent topic & photography - I particularly appreciated your spoken commentary / script. It was just right!
Great video as usual Dylan. Those standard class seats look much better than the rest of the Class 8xx seats which will be a massive selling point in my opinion.
It looks an impressive train. For a 4 hour journey I would always prefer to travel first class, with more space and a calmer atmosphere, but it comes at a cost. It's difficult to see how Lumo can provide the service at the current price. How long will such low fares continue?
It's only low because of advance tickets.
Ask Ryanair! That being said, I looked at Edinburgh-London for a trip and there was nothing lower than £69, no better than LNER, as all the cheap seats had been snapped up. Again, similar to Ryanair.
4 hours is ok in these seats as long as you don't have to catch an event right after you land.
A few points....
1. Really quite liking the new voice over style.
2. Good luck getting those priced tickets anytime soon.
3. Always found predominantly airline style seats as in the voyages quite claustrophobic but the seat design looks good.
3. A very comprehensive review. Food offering looks lite but then I can't remember last time I bought anything on the train so probably fit for purpose.
4. Finally... Lets get Dylan more subscribers so he gets an invite on any future media trains. He could have got bagpipes and canapes on Thursday
Good to Hear you again mate. I am certainly interested to see how Lumo do in the coming future.
Wow....it's hard getting my head around so many different rail operators in one country !
In Australia, each state has just their own government owned network. Interstate trains are joint funded ( except for the likes of The Ghan, and The Indian-Pacific)
Well, joint but badly funded whilst the tourist trains you mentioned are very expensive. 200kph.....we dont get even half of that and it is a very big country.
The initial idea was that private companies would run services for profit meaning no more Government subsidies. Unfortunately that didn't quite happen and they ended up paying out more in subsidies! In fact it's getting to the point where most of franchises are now Goverment owned and ran.
Great commentary with just the right amount of detailed information of the places you pass on the way.
My biggest gripe on my first trip on one was the little tables were too low for tall people which meant I couldn’t put it flat. The second observation was the tinted glass things were stupidly reflective which made it very easy for people to read your messages etc from the seats behind. But for the price not bad
Travelling on the same train in May, really helpful tips and seems like the best option from edinburgh to london. Looking forward to our train journey now
A wonderful train ride and as always love the narrated videos
Very good appraisal. Of course, services on that line (and all others) are at the mercy of Network Rail. If it decides to do a bit of weekend maintenance, chaos usually prevails. I would definitely use Lumor. With the right timetable it could become a major commuter service.
Great video. I agree about having a better system for selecting seats when booking as in your case you ended up with an iasle seat. Even if you get a window seat the chances are you'd end up in one of those spaces between windows where you can't see a thing outside or worse still one of the seats at the end of the coach where there are no windows. What it needs is a diagram of the coach and where the windows are situated so you can select a proper window seat. This is also the case in standard class on all the other operators. Its probably not an issue for those who like to read or watch entertainment throughout the journey but I like to watch the scenery pass by. Apart from that it looks great and am tempted to give it a try at some point.
They do look the part. Easy on the eye, and the wallet!
Also, you’re smashing the transition to on-screen and voice over work. Killing it!
Brilliant review, Dylan! Very thorough. Thinking of travelling with Lumo in the future.
another awesome presentation. must admit I do use these for when I make my own travel plans
Great video! I was also on that train between Edinburgh and Newcastle. With railcard, I was only £6-40 day return. However....these cheap introductory fares are only until the end of November, and all the London tickets are gone before the first service ran. Going forward, the extra capacity can only pull fares down, so great that Scotland has its first open access operation! But its not Britain's first low cost operator. Have you never heard of Grand Central?
I have to mention more downsides. Your video showed the overhead luggage racks absolutely crammed, as the floor level luggage racks are so few. No wonder they don't mention the bulky luggage areas as these would be overwhelmed. Not all of us are still young enough to lift heavy luggage onto the overhead racks. The catering needs an uplift, and for me the lack of any buffet counter and the need to pre-order most of it is a serious step back. Not being able to choose your seat is a big one for some of us. I think it was East Coast who introduced this many years ago, when it was first re-nationalised. But I plan to do a few more cheapo day returns to Newcastle while it lasts.
It's beautiful blue color ! 💖✨
It looks so comfortable ! 👍
Such a "Japanese" style to the front.
Fantastic Video 😃! Unfortunately, the price that you paid for your ticket was only a special offer lasting until 1st December. After that, the prices are very similar to LNER. I'm very keen to travel with Lumo and your video has made me really want to travel with them! I do wish that they had a seat map though which would be really good so that you know which seats are Window seats.
Great video! I'm excited to see how the other operators respond to genuine competition.
Really? This isn’t genuine competition by any means. I live in Scotland. I go from Aberdeen to Newark Northgate. While I can go into Kings Cross this then means I have to go across to St Pancres station and get another train. Not only is this more expense, it difficult for me to get access to the train at the others stations as I have mobility problems. So unless they increase there stops, this is no use for me. And I’m sure I’m not the only one.
sounds like a great train looks clean and comfortabl e nice sceenery on the way stay safe and well buddy cheers
What a great video. Not seen any of your other content, but I'm looking forward to taking a look. Your video has made me want to book with Lumo and visit Edinburgh.
Love these vlog videos Dylan. I hope you do much more of them in the future. 👍
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Open access really has been a success story on the East Coast Main Line. I'm all for scrapping the franchise system, but one pro of the last couple decades has been allowing open access. It's a shame it's hasn't expanded to other intercity routes.
I always enjoy your videos. Nice relaxing commentary,thanks.
Great video mate. Normally, LumO trains use to call at Stevenage but yeah that's very strange through and so many people are on lumO
I saw my first one whizzing (well, kind of) through York on Saturday. It looked good in its blue colour. But it was strange to see a train actually not stop in York :(
Looks like a great experience. I'm Canadian but I will 100% travel on this line when I'm in the UK next year.
I WAS THERE! I was completely oblivious of this until I arrived at kings cross just before 11 and saw all the press and a shiny new train.
Great vlog Dylan and nice to see you. Would be great if you could review more first class train journeys sometime, budget permitting, just to compare.
Great video 👍 , maybe something like this is now needed for the cross-country service which is an absolute disgrace
You don't know what an absolute disgrace is until you see the antiqued rusting disgusting rail transit service in the USA.....we are more than 30 -40 yrs behind......and rail service not available to most of all the country....we depend on cars...
@@mariabetancourt6797 Luckily your petrol is cheap enough to do long distances. Its ridiculous here in the UK.
Road with lumo this weekend. Did enjoy it.
Staff where super nice and Chatty. Seating was alright.
Only gripe train was half hour late and because it will most likely always be busy, can't really get a seat alone.
i had no idea this new company existed and now I am going to plan a trip on one!!
Great to see you unmasked. I have never been up to surface level at Waverley, always just been passing through.
You managed to get this edited quickly - nice one! I'll be uploading mine later this week, maybe today. Glad we've drawn the same general conclusions on this service - well done Lumo!
Oh, and I too booked a window seat and found it was an aisle seat... Must be an issue in the reservations system I guess.
To overcome this, you probably have to book an aisle and get a window seat.
You have to book in reverse when it comes to trains, if you want a window backward facing seat, book an Isle forward facing seat
I happened to watch today's departure from Newcastle just before 11am as I awaited the LNER service. My impression was that these 5 coaches were very crowded with people standing... and that would be all the way to King's Cross as it was not stopping anywhere else. That did not seem a comfortable experience for anyone in the coaches and I was surprised you could apparently board without a seat reservation. When I use LNER I bite the bullet and go 1st Class because you have more space (the complimentary snacks are pretty poor) and the fact that there is no premium carriage on the Lumo service is unfortunate. If you would usually travel standard and don't mind very full coaches and little by way of on board food options in exchange for a cheaper priced ticket then I can see the appeal - to go direct from Newcastle to London without three or four additional stops is a definite bonus. If you like more space on a long journey then it is not going to tempt me. How narrow are those arm rests?!
I travel from KGX NCL every three months and have done the journey in first class for over 20 years now. The standard of service has deteriorated progressively over those years and is almost non-existent now. In three weeks time I am booked with Lumo as an experiment! At a price less than one quarter of my usual fare, I can take my own better food and champagne and still save!
Hi Dylan, there is no First Class and no Cafe Bar buffet counter aboard Lumo Hitachi Class 803 trains. The interior layout of the seating seems to virtually be the same as First Great Western/GWR former High Density Mark 3 trailer vehicles in the High Speed Train/InterCity 125 sets. It is nice to finally see an improved seat design aboard the Hitachi Class 800 family.
Best wishes and take care. Kind regards, Peter Skuce, St Albans. Hertfordshire.
I know it's a high speed service, but it's a shame it doesn't stop in York of Leeds. I mean, if anybody is going to appreciate a budget train service, it's a Yorkshireman like me!
Ditto as i said already george hudson would turn in his grave knowing trains do not stop at york.Fellow yorkie too.
York seems a more logical stopping point than Morpeth
From Leeds, take the short hop to Doncaster, then jump on to Grand Central.
Yes
I came here about 2 months ago when lumo wasent there it was brilliant
I travel rarely enough on the train that I prefer to go First class, so LNER is probably still the better option for me. That said, if I find myself needing to travel on short notice then I suspect Lumo will get my custom. It's just a shame they don't stop at either Peterborough or Stevenage at the other end since it makes travelling to East Anglia a lot easier.
Thought they always stopped at Stevenage (though not as often as the other stops)?
Another great video Dylan. Saw this unit passing Northallerton
Thanks, Dylan, for a nice little trip.
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Excellent report and very good commentary.
Great vid thanks Dylan and great to see your face as well!
Fun to see a Tuesday (US) Inaugural Service bonus edition 🙂
Looks to be a great service. Morpeth seems like an odd place to stop. Can see me using it for my next trip to Newcastle.
My thoughts entirely. Why stop at a tiny town of just 14,000? Perhaps it's due to an obscure regulation/condition of operating license.
@@Lakesider52 They're not allowed to take passengers from LNER
Although they are allowed to take passengers from LNER at both termini as customers have a free choice who they book with. Seems a petty regulation to me.
I think it's great that they stop in Morpeth. It is a town that despite being on the ECML has had a rather poor rail service for years.
The fact that both these and TPE are now providing additional services between Newcastle and Morpeth must further open up the possibly of commuting between these places by train and taking some cars off the roads.
@@Lakesider52 That's the rules for open access operators, they have to be mainly offering something new rather than simply cherry-picking profitable times to take passengers away from existing services. It's why Hull Trains calls at smaller towns like Grantham but not at Peterborough which is much bigger. The number of LNER passengers going all the way from London to Edinburgh is fairly small compared with the number making shorter journeys, but even so I'm quite surprised that ORR felt Lumo was offering something sufficiently different to give them a licence.
I went to Edinburgh for my holiday on Halloween week. On the last day (today) I went to York when i was heading back home. When I was walking to the Railway Musuem I saw a Lumo class 800 pass by.
Love these new videos. The voice over and seeing your face makes it more personal and I think friendly. Plus I think your video content is much better now too. Keep up the good work. I travel on lner from Doncaster to kings cross occasionally. But the ticket cost is astronomical.