Black Mirror Analysis | Crocodile

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  • @HarrysMovingMedia
    @HarrysMovingMedia  6 лет назад +839

    This episode wasn't perfect but I certainly enjoyed it a lot, what did you guys think did you love it did you meme it let me know in the comments

    • @LouisOnAir
      @LouisOnAir 6 лет назад +15

      I really liked the idea of everyone lying. Shazia lies about what happens to the memories gathered, I'm pretty sure only the police know it works on animals (or at least their versions do) and that connects well to mistrust; both of people's personal accounts and their subjective memories.

    • @bleedingberryjuice
      @bleedingberryjuice 6 лет назад +40

      Protagonist means the main character of a story--not necessarily the "good guy".
      In that sense, Mia is the protagonist and Shazia acts as both a secondary protagonist and an unknowing antagonist.
      The antagonist isn't necessarily in the wrong, they're just working against the protagonist.
      I felt like this episode was especially brutal despite the more modest high-tech, and I was especially concerned about the laws concerning it.
      I wouldn't want to be legally obligated to let anyone look at my memories.
      All the more reason to stay inside.

    • @storytellerrex2537
      @storytellerrex2537 6 лет назад +4

      Harry's Moving Castle this was my first episode and it got me interested in the series.

    • @kkandbeyond
      @kkandbeyond 6 лет назад +3

      Harry's Moving Castle It had some interesting parts but it didn't leave me wanting more.

    • @oblivious93massacre
      @oblivious93massacre 6 лет назад +13

      This episode left me feeling so conflicted. I feel awful for Mia, but I also really don’t like her. She shouldn’t have helped her ex dispose of the cyclist’s body, but it’s pretty easy to tell she was in shock and freaking out after it happened. She also didn’t want to get her boyfriend in trouble. Then, over a decade later, he suddenly waltzes back into her life and threatens to use the situation that he put her in to ruin Mia’s life. I know that wasn’t his objective in coming clean, but he still would ruined her life. Again, Mia is shocked and in a state of panic when she kills him. A part of me was like, “Well, there’s a twisted act of justice,” because the ex (I can’t remember his name) put Mia in this situation in the first place. The ex basically started the events that led to his own death. So up until that point, I didn’t dislike Mia. I felt she made bad choices, but I could somewhat understand them. And it’s not like she was ravishing in the murder or killing for sport. She committed a crime of passion and felt immensely guilty afterward.
      But then she killed the insurance lady and it completely changed my mind. I wanted someone to catch her at that point. Killing the husband added to that and then killing the child... Yeah, Mia definitely turned into a monster by the end of the episode.
      I liked the story. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I’m left feeling so conflicted because I feel like Mia’s story - her life - was unfair. *She* didn’t run down an innocent pedestrian on the road, but *she* ultimately pays for it. Even if she hadn’t killed anyone in the story and the ex had come clean about everything, Mia’s life still would have been ruined because of a crime she didn’t commit. I know she helped cover it up, but she didn’t actually do it.
      Great analysis, by the way :)

  • @jadendayle4881
    @jadendayle4881 6 лет назад +2787

    Imagine Mia gets put into the White Bear programme and is punished...

    • @buzzbuzzmfer8270
      @buzzbuzzmfer8270 6 лет назад +95

      Yeah, but what would her punishment be? With the other woman, they video taped her because she videotaped the child. What would Mia’s poetic justice be?

    • @extraspooky819
      @extraspooky819 6 лет назад +205

      Being locked down in a crib without being able to move while people continually smother her she ends up in a coma. Then when she wakes up from said coma, rinse and repeat. A continuous cycle of becoming a vegetable.

    • @buzzbuzzmfer8270
      @buzzbuzzmfer8270 6 лет назад +85

      So like a mix of white bear and black museum

    • @Jacquett
      @Jacquett 6 лет назад +55

      NemesisJ maybe throughout each day her vision deteriorates, and resets back to normal in the morning after her memories have been erased? Just cause the infant was blind

    • @thegossipswan009
      @thegossipswan009 6 лет назад +156

      SherIock Holmes Imo the perfect punishment for Mia in a White Bear scenario is to see her own son being murdered. Of course that's going to be acted. They can say it's her son with a lookalike actor or a child actor with a bag on his head. The murder would be staged each day with erasing her memory and she will be a witness to her son's "death" repeatedly.
      She would feel the pain of losing a child & that would be her "poetic justice".

  • @ulsterken
    @ulsterken 6 лет назад +1936

    I think we've found the new feature at white bear theme park.

  • @SendyTheEndless
    @SendyTheEndless 5 лет назад +731

    Me: "She's not gonna kill the baby"
    Next line of the film: Investigator: "Who the hell kills a baby?!"

    • @shaymininfernape7088
      @shaymininfernape7088 3 года назад +14

      Exactly XD I feel like at that point she didn’t even have to kill the baby she probably left a bunch of evidence

    • @notheco
      @notheco 3 года назад +9

      @@shaymininfernape7088 well, no not really. The investigators said themselves that "they're skilled, i don't even know what I'm looking for here." it was really only the hamster

    • @JamFlexx
      @JamFlexx Год назад +8

      I was thinking, she feels guilty about leaving a child parentless.
      I wasn't even thinking about the 'eye-witness' aspect so I was SHOOKETH with the investigators line haha

    • @idreadFell365
      @idreadFell365 Год назад

      🎵I thought I had it all togetherrrrr🎵

    • @idreadFell365
      @idreadFell365 Год назад

      I thought it was stupid of her to even walk in to the room where the baby was. Where the baby “COULD” see her.

  • @ManAboutTown1000
    @ManAboutTown1000 6 лет назад +1708

    One thing I wish you’d brought up is the possible manipulation of memories. We hear throughout that memories are subjective. When Shazia looks into the dentists memory he recalls the woman in the yellow jacket as having worn a lime colored jacket. When Shazia corrects him the jacket turns to a yellow one and he doesn’t argue with her about it. I imagine it would be easy to coerce someone into remembering something differently for a number of unscrupulous purposes.

    • @edward2803
      @edward2803 6 лет назад +61

      ManAboutTown1000 never even thought about that, really great point though

    • @oopsiepoopsie2898
      @oopsiepoopsie2898 6 лет назад +135

      Yeah it’s how memories work, if this technology did exist. It would be a bit unreliable in modern police work. You would need the memories of multiple people and try to piece the story of what happened together.

    • @lanacrowley7337
      @lanacrowley7337 5 лет назад

      i noticed that too

    • @mariejohannagarganera9698
      @mariejohannagarganera9698 5 лет назад +32

      @@oopsiepoopsie2898 she actually mentioned that. She needed more witnesses to puzzle out the scene.

    • @lunarstella8486
      @lunarstella8486 5 лет назад +21

      she did try to manipulate her memories though (like what she did in the restroom). but she was just so disturbed about her crime that she failed to do so

  • @meris8486
    @meris8486 6 лет назад +1914

    Nothing about the
    G U I N E A P I G M E M O R I E S ?

    • @TheJackieOsvaldo
      @TheJackieOsvaldo 6 лет назад +110

      headbite alien I was waiting for that!!! Not even a mention 😩

    • @ijustintime4u2bui46
      @ijustintime4u2bui46 6 лет назад +9

      I know right!

    • @littleratfella6857
      @littleratfella6857 6 лет назад +68

      Such a shit moment.

    • @meris8486
      @meris8486 6 лет назад +29

      Exactly haha
      How did she not see the Guinea pig in the corner of the room anyway?

    • @YAHBUDDY32
      @YAHBUDDY32 6 лет назад +37

      OMG I LITERALLY CALLED IT WHEN I WAS WATCHING THE EPISODE AS SOON AS THEY PANNED OVER TO THE BABY

  • @user-hh2is9kg9j
    @user-hh2is9kg9j 6 лет назад +1438

    I was interested to see how an animal memory looks like

    • @rhey81
      @rhey81 5 лет назад +114

      I'm thinking the Guinea pig was incredibly lonely. Guinea pigs need companions otherwise they get stressed out and don't last as long..It's not encouraged to own a single Guinea pig..

    • @1wayDrell
      @1wayDrell 5 лет назад +2

      Rhey stfu

    • @user-trrwvfk
      @user-trrwvfk 5 лет назад +1

      @@wonderbread4323 stfu

    • @winonathequeen
      @winonathequeen 5 лет назад +7

      @@user-trrwvfk get a life bitch

    • @shubhammeena328
      @shubhammeena328 4 года назад +2

      @@winonathequeen stfu

  • @justthecoolestdudeyo9446
    @justthecoolestdudeyo9446 6 лет назад +1871

    I feel like Mia is an exercise in empathy. How evil does she have to be before we can stop truly empathizing with her and feeling for her? Running a guy over and panicking and hiding the body is bad, but her emotions are understandable and it was her boyfriend who urged her to cover it up. When she kills the (now ex-)boyfriend, it's bad, but you can still relate to her desperate desire to preserve her life (while the ex seems to have few to care about him, and is clearly struggling in general). As the episode goes in, her murders become less and less sympathetic, from killing the good-natured insurance agent, to killing the insurance agent's husband and finally her child. At some point, you realize that she is beyond redemption, that you are no longer okay with her getting away with it, no longer empathize with her as a person. That she is a monster who did monstrous thing, and here you were totally feeling for her for a shamefully long time, even after she murdered a couple of people. That's my hot take anyway

    • @redroses0880
      @redroses0880 6 лет назад +19

      Just the Coolest Dude Yo I like it

    • @justthecoolestdudeyo9446
      @justthecoolestdudeyo9446 6 лет назад +4

      Thanks!

    • @systemshift
      @systemshift 6 лет назад +42

      I totally agree with you, the first thing I asked someone after watching this episode was "did you root for her?" but my thoughts did not go all the way like you. thanks for enlighting my brain lol

    • @raphapower8160
      @raphapower8160 6 лет назад +215

      i empathized with her about the car thing but once she killed her ex bf i stopped empathizing with her. the car was an Accident and yes it was bad but this was cold murder which i cant empthasize with. I get if you can but i think theres a big difference between an accident that her bf caused and her helping cover up and choking someone out because you dont want to deal with what happened.

    • @justthecoolestdudeyo9446
      @justthecoolestdudeyo9446 6 лет назад +56

      I think everyone has a different point where they completely stop sympathizing. It's interesting to read different perspectives of when that was for them!

  • @elaichii1384
    @elaichii1384 5 лет назад +806

    The scene were Shazia recites a prayer before her death was so powerful and emotional

    • @ramaarafat4608
      @ramaarafat4608 5 лет назад +119

      yep , i got chill from that scene . In Islam if you about to die you must say that word for mercy in the eyes of god .

    • @akbar_khalid
      @akbar_khalid 5 лет назад +121

      It's Arabic. She recites: "We belong to Allah (God) and to Allah (God) we shall return."

    • @cutielol0
      @cutielol0 5 лет назад +66

      Ikr. Best scene on black mirror. I literally cried like a baby.
      Btw she recited a Quranic prayer "Inna lillahi wa inna ilayehi rajioon" (2:156) from the Qur'an which translates to "Indeed, to Allah we belong and to Him we shall return

    • @ericadasilva02
      @ericadasilva02 5 лет назад +5

      That was beautiful

    • @KDonkey4lyf
      @KDonkey4lyf 4 года назад +16

      @@mariomm9080 why?

  • @agent-sz2qj
    @agent-sz2qj 6 лет назад +274

    the actress that played Mia just excelled in this episode. great acting indeed

  • @juhabakapeci4108
    @juhabakapeci4108 6 лет назад +626

    I found it odd that her friend went sober while she began to drink obsessively.

    • @SaraStar7373
      @SaraStar7373 6 лет назад +232

      juhabaka peci I liked the parallel of this guy who seems totally unchanged, and unsuccessful, whereas Mia appears different and extremely successful. In the end it’s the one that’s decided to move on that forgets about th murder, and the one that has stuck to his roots that wishes to make amends. He wants to make things right, she just wants to keep things right for herself. This causes her lack of sympathy.

    • @bernardsoul5186
      @bernardsoul5186 6 лет назад +11

      Except it was his fault / idea in the first place

    • @ztarr
      @ztarr 6 лет назад +29

      I mean in all honesty she had less to be guilty about because he was the one who actually killed him. Of course hiding it was bad but the guilt of actually causing his death in the first place would be much greater.

    • @rhey81
      @rhey81 5 лет назад +5

      @@SaraStar7373 What if he turned out successful? Would he have had the same conscious?

    • @mikeMcoa
      @mikeMcoa 5 лет назад +13

      @@rhey81 Probably not remember how Mia kept on saying that "you don't understand" . She has a family , is respected , a positive reputation , money , power basically she has it all she has a lot to lose a lot to protect whereas her ex has nothing but a guilty conscience.

  • @noahdavis3663
    @noahdavis3663 6 лет назад +676

    if that girl’s car started faster she would have survived

    • @jonathanfinch1741
      @jonathanfinch1741 6 лет назад +317

      If she just acted normally after seeing those memories and made out like she didn't see them and only the pizza van accident then she'd have survived.

    • @karlmarx809
      @karlmarx809 6 лет назад +276

      Kinda hard not to react to seeing someone being murdered. Remember, she was only expecting to see porn because that's what the hotel clerk told her.

    • @jonathanfinch1741
      @jonathanfinch1741 6 лет назад +83

      Troy Bakeman if I've just seen someone's memories and know they are capable of murder I wouldn't do anything that would put myself in harms way and if that means acting normal then so be it but I know where you're coming from.

    • @nkirukaj2384
      @nkirukaj2384 6 лет назад +58

      jonathan finch I agree, I mean I completely understand why she reacted the way she did, but if she had acted like all she saw was the pizza truck memory, then she would have gotten away

    • @cutielol0
      @cutielol0 5 лет назад +7

      Hence don't buy Suzuki

  • @h.z6870
    @h.z6870 6 лет назад +1519

    I genuinely thought that Mia was contemplating taking the baby to look after (since she just killed the parents) and I thought the worst outcome would be that she'd leave the poor baby abandoned. NEVER DID IT CROSS MY MIND THAT SHE WANTED TO KILL THE BABY- I was absolutely HORRIFIED!

    • @ijustintime4u2bui46
      @ijustintime4u2bui46 6 лет назад +121

      how would that conversation have gone down with her husband?
      "hey honey I've decided to adopt a child without having to sign any paperwork at all, surprise!"
      Edit:"and there's no birth certificate either!"

    • @danielsimmich1858
      @danielsimmich1858 6 лет назад +200

      Ikr. I initially read the scene as her kinda seeing the impact of what she’d done. Seeing that she’d killed the parents of that child. That scene never read ‘oh snap now I gotta kill a baby’

    • @MSC69F1
      @MSC69F1 6 лет назад +110

      Guess everyones different. When i heard the baby i was absolutely terrified. knowing that she probably now thinks about killing it aswell. Terrible. Absolutely terrible.
      So now shes in that situation. Thats pretty shitty. Obviously you want to

    • @h.z6870
      @h.z6870 6 лет назад +3

      I justintime4u2bu I haha I was thinking maybe she'd hide the baby and sneak around

    • @systemshift
      @systemshift 6 лет назад +43

      lmao you have such a pure soul, I can't imagine the horror you felt

  • @siray3232
    @siray3232 6 лет назад +1279

    dammit I'm sad that while taking about visual representation of Mia's blending into her environment you didn't mention that one shot of her dark reflection in the car rearview mirror. She looked exactly like a crocodile waiting for its prey in the water with its head slightly above the surface

    • @ms.bubs4fun506
      @ms.bubs4fun506 6 лет назад +114

      And the one scene when the lady's husband was in the bathtub, Mia was hiding in the stairs in the darkness like a crocodile.

    • @OfAngelsAndAnarchist
      @OfAngelsAndAnarchist 5 лет назад +5

      I enjoy that you need the validation of a RUclips video
      Bro.

  • @OdachiTetsunoko
    @OdachiTetsunoko 5 лет назад +647

    Why does everyone hate the guinea pig scene? I thought it wasnt that bad, especially after 45 minutes of the darkest shit I've seen in black mirror I could do with a good laugh.
    Plus the fact that she got ratted out by a literal rodent is kinda amazing

    • @f.t.wibowo5260
      @f.t.wibowo5260 4 года назад

      wdym, its a pig not a rodent

    • @imafbiladidap2776
      @imafbiladidap2776 4 года назад +60

      @@f.t.wibowo5260 LMFAO ARE YOU SERIOUS???! Having a pig in their name does not mean that they are a pig. GUINEA PIGS are NOT pigs nor are they from Guinea. Guinea Pigs are rodents and are somehow closely related to hamsters.

    • @f.t.wibowo5260
      @f.t.wibowo5260 4 года назад +1

      @@imafbiladidap2776 so according to you siberian tiger is neither a tiger nor it is from siberia, minnesota timberwolves are neither wolves nor it is from minnesota, and tasmanian devil are neither a devil nor it is from tasmania.
      You finish your grade school yet? come back to me when you do.

    • @f.t.wibowo5260
      @f.t.wibowo5260 4 года назад

      @@chivasregal2124 here we go again. Im giving examples, funny you said that because it seems like you are the one who need to comprehend

    • @leeann7886
      @leeann7886 4 года назад +35

      @@f.t.wibowo5260 guinea pigs are rodents, not pigs as the name implies. The reason they have pig in their name is because their squeaking reminds many people of baby piglets noise. They can also be known as cavia porcellus. They have more relations and similarities to the rodent family, thus they are rodents. If you still have questions, google is a thing.

  • @SylentVoidkeeper
    @SylentVoidkeeper 6 лет назад +404

    So...that brings us to Hang the DJ next.
    Oh boy

  • @ObeyAmmalol
    @ObeyAmmalol 6 лет назад +1433

    THIS IS ANALYSIS!!!! A couple other channels need to learn something from you ☕️

    • @HarrysMovingMedia
      @HarrysMovingMedia  6 лет назад +80

      Like who? (((((((( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°))))))))))

    • @mindlander
      @mindlander 6 лет назад +3

      no. please no.

    • @Chad-zd3ju
      @Chad-zd3ju 6 лет назад +60

      Obey Amma yeah there are a lot of videos where they “analyze “ black mirror episodes but they’re just talk about everything we see in the episode, not what everything means.

    • @marielgracerussaneeclavea2865
      @marielgracerussaneeclavea2865 6 лет назад +11

      Harry's Moving Castle I like your reply hahahaha. you're the only one who truly analyzes

    • @cewe2003
      @cewe2003 6 лет назад +7

      You speak nothing but TRUTH! I came across this channel when I was first looking for analysis of Black Mirror and watched all this videos from season 1-3. At the time, he didn't have any reviews for season 4 up so I went searching elsewhere. To my disappointment, no one else actually analyzed the show, only recounted everything we already saw! And have the nerve to call it an analysis! (insert eye roll). So I learned to just wait for his videos to come out and boy, I couldn't be happier!

  • @Asta_Rose
    @Asta_Rose 6 лет назад +427

    When Shazia was talking about the "not since last year", I took that as meaning that the machine was no longer just for police work but now distributed for other jobs such as insurance, perhaps even therapy.

    • @h.z6870
      @h.z6870 6 лет назад +7

      Carina Kriessman yeah me too

    • @Kuralai95
      @Kuralai95 6 лет назад +1

      Exactly

    • @nathanglover8938
      @nathanglover8938 6 лет назад

      Yup.

    • @honeybhingful
      @honeybhingful 6 лет назад +33

      Connecting this with the "guinea pig memory", the police were only after a face match. And they were able to extract it because the memory was recent. Also, since police were the first people to use the recaller, they might have the more advanced version compared to what the insurance company has. Shazia was working on pinpointing the speed of the delivery van anyway, hence the need to crowdsource from different witnesses. And if people say a guinea pig's memory is shit, let's not forget that the machine may not even have humans as its first participants. Specimens from lab experiments are called guinea pigs for a reason.

    • @nkirukaj2384
      @nkirukaj2384 6 лет назад +2

      because that’s what she meant lol

  • @luciangray3791
    @luciangray3791 6 лет назад +614

    I was hoping for an explanation as to how a 90 pound woman could overpower her victims

    • @ElkeDragos
      @ElkeDragos 6 лет назад +16

      Lucian Gray Lol! I thought the same thing!

    • @marielgracerussaneeclavea2865
      @marielgracerussaneeclavea2865 6 лет назад +114

      Lucian Gray adrenaline

    • @elbuhdai605
      @elbuhdai605 6 лет назад +82

      I work out and probably have more muscle than this woman, but I'm skinny and around the same height and I probably still could not overpower all those men even WITH adrenaline. Just stupid.

    • @sichiu
      @sichiu 6 лет назад +48

      Just by pure will power and murderous intention 😐

    • @mindblower76
      @mindblower76 6 лет назад +6

      Rob comments her physic early on in the hotel

  • @tartarus1478
    @tartarus1478 6 лет назад +440

    I think so many miss a major theme throughout the episode. She is originally a witness to a crime (her boyfriend hitting a man and hiding the body). The reason she is guilty is for helping him hide the evidence though she begged him not to. What other choice might she have made? He was not a stable sort of person. Had she decided to not help, her body could have ended up in the lake along with the cyclist. But if she turned him in later she would have gone to jail as an accomplice after helping him. Then she witnesses the pizza truck hit a person and is later told she is legally required to witness to the crime. This is saying we are making criminals of witnesses, legal requirements to testify through subpoena comes to mind. Then the series of killings to follow are a series of witnesses, each victim of hers is the same as her in the beginning, a witness to a crime. She is symbolically killing more of herself, the humanity in her being killed with each victim all to silence the cries of her dark past culminating in her killing a defenseless baby. Symbolically she is killing her own innocence. An innocence she didn't have to kill (as the baby was blind) saying she as a witness to the first crime did not need to suffer for having witnessed it but legal systems would make her an accomplice to the crime and ruin her future. That is what I got from this episode.

    • @thugmumuswag01mamemu87
      @thugmumuswag01mamemu87 6 лет назад +15

      Elias Dangar what a fucking novel

    • @SarwatRattani
      @SarwatRattani 6 лет назад +37

      Great addition to the analysis!

    • @rhey81
      @rhey81 5 лет назад +9

      Didn't they do drugs at the club or wherever they were at the start of the episode?? I mean if she does the honest thing, he goes to jail, she probably gets popped for what was in her system and that goes on her record and she never gets to do what she wants to do anyway.. Isn't the point then, don't drink and do drugs..

    • @windwaker407
      @windwaker407 5 лет назад +14

      There's no way she would have gone to jail as an accomplice in that scenario. If she had any reason to believe her life was in danger, I'm pretty sure any police officer with the slightest bit of common sense wouldn't hold her accountable if she alerted police as soon as she could. Police would never tell you 'do the right thing, even if it's unsafe and could endanger you'.

    • @migukmoonpark4312
      @migukmoonpark4312 5 лет назад +2

      Underrated comment.

  • @muckymucks
    @muckymucks 6 лет назад +2168

    When Mia breaks Shazia's car window it legitimately scared me.

    • @ahmadsaleh4665
      @ahmadsaleh4665 6 лет назад +237

      Same but i expected the insurance lady to fight back, I don't know why she didn't, she had nothing to lose

    • @alsa3001
      @alsa3001 6 лет назад +89

      Me too!!! I literally thought it was ridiculous how I NEVER scream in movies but this exact moment got me. I was really emerged in the episode. Second time I saw the episode it did nothing though, first time was so...wow.

    • @auntiecreeps1414
      @auntiecreeps1414 6 лет назад +16

      Sure she was Jason Voorhees by that point.

    • @Ty-op5xr
      @Ty-op5xr 6 лет назад +106

      Moral of the story: always make sure your engine's working right.

    • @ms.bubs4fun506
      @ms.bubs4fun506 6 лет назад +80

      I kept thinking that either Shazia is the weakest person alive or Mia is the strongest person alive. lol

  • @jasonmarchant4525
    @jasonmarchant4525 6 лет назад +176

    Why do people keep calling it a hamster? it's a guinea pig

    • @astrowiz3544
      @astrowiz3544 6 лет назад +21

      THANK YOU. Its so easy to tell the two apart I'm starting to think people have never seen either of the two in their whole lives.

    • @ahhwe-any7434
      @ahhwe-any7434 5 лет назад +2

      Idk my more tame guinea pig ran in his tunnel when I started watching this

  • @tavywalker
    @tavywalker 6 лет назад +397

    This has to be the only episode that has bothered me this much. Mia's character is absolutely disgusting. It's impossible for me to sympathize with someone so vile and apathetic out of self interest.

    • @gimbobjenkins405
      @gimbobjenkins405 5 лет назад +37

      I didn't sympathize with her, I was just wondering how she was going to get caught.

    • @EatYourVegs
      @EatYourVegs 5 лет назад +6

      Prioritizing other people over one's self interest is nice and all, but would you if the alternative was to spend your entire life in jail? I think she's a very strong woman doing what was necessary for her, while most people wouldn't be able to do that.

    • @dreamcanvas5321
      @dreamcanvas5321 5 лет назад +106

      @@EatYourVegs Taking responsibility is a much stronger act than hurting and killing those around you in order to evade responsibility for your actions.

    • @ramaarafat4608
      @ramaarafat4608 5 лет назад

      im the opposite of your opinion , i always see my self as mia and rooting for her till the end , idk if that make me psico or something lol . i made mistake and try to forget that thing and gonna do everything for it not to be known .

    • @bluecyanide411
      @bluecyanide411 5 лет назад +19

      Rama Drama the fbi wants to know your location

  • @imbuzzkillington
    @imbuzzkillington 6 лет назад +418

    She did a very good job acting, I love this episode .

  • @FintoIannucci
    @FintoIannucci 6 лет назад +338

    I love the fact that the antagonist has to perform more and more monstrous acts as the episode goes on.
    First, she is a witness to an accidental killing, then helps hide the body.
    Secondly, she accidentally murders someone to protect herself.
    Thirdly, she intentionally murders someone who comes to her, to protect herself.
    Fourthly, she goes out of her way to intentionally murder someone with a connection to protect herself.
    Lastly, she intentionally murders an innocent baby to protect herself.
    I love how the speed of the murders only increases as she gets faster and faster in deciding in what she is going to do. Brilliant directing

    • @astrowiz3544
      @astrowiz3544 6 лет назад +28

      The crocodile grew hungrier and hungrier...

    • @pathetic2399
      @pathetic2399 6 лет назад +37

      " accidentally murders to protect herself ". The murder didn't look accidental and even if it was, that statment made no sense.

    • @FintoIannucci
      @FintoIannucci 6 лет назад +13

      Pathetic what I meant was, killing wasn’t the intention, only stopping him was

    • @rickybindahoose6193
      @rickybindahoose6193 6 лет назад

      You can't even accidentally murder someone anyway. It has to be premeditated to be murder, probs got away with Rob with manslaughter, say that he attacked her haha.

    • @pizzapizza2225
      @pizzapizza2225 6 лет назад +2

      Rick Baker Murder is not defined by premeditation, but intention. The intent of the person is the defining factor, hence manslaughter is not with a purpose to kill, but murder is.

  • @yannicknaert
    @yannicknaert 5 лет назад +176

    Mia is my most hated character of the entire series

    • @RuddsReels
      @RuddsReels 5 лет назад +15

      And with good reason

    • @touko_nanami
      @touko_nanami 4 года назад +39

      Her dumb hair Cut doesn’t help either

    • @motunrayoasalu
      @motunrayoasalu 4 года назад +32

      Ahmed Shaltoot Psst. Mia was the killer, not the Muslim woman

    • @imafbiladidap2776
      @imafbiladidap2776 4 года назад +8

      @Ahmed Shaltoot She said MIA gosh

    • @robertbarack1827
      @robertbarack1827 4 года назад

      @@touko_nanami I think it's hot

  • @murtagh6002
    @murtagh6002 6 лет назад +89

    Funny how black mirror once again predicts the future with the self driving pizza delivery vehicles

    • @notsureiL
      @notsureiL 6 лет назад +2

      Pentox I remember a kind of a bad 90s movie the net with Sandra Bullock. She ordered a pizza online. It seemed quite weird and lazy back in the day :) Who needs such a service. Fast forward 15 to 20 years and you can order a pizza online even in a small town.

    • @hyuugafan2
      @hyuugafan2 5 лет назад +9

      It’s called predictive programming...black mirror didn’t predict it.....these technologies are already in development for some time..we just get to find out through media

    • @saysay8920
      @saysay8920 5 лет назад +4

      Is it that funny?
      If self driving cars already exist, one of the safest guesses you could make would be that self driving cars get more specialized like for pizza.

  • @kookookachu26
    @kookookachu26 6 лет назад +166

    I don't know why you said it was bleak my man. I for one loved the episode. That ending really got to me. I'm surprised you didn't mention it, but when her son is performing the song, there's a part where he counts to 4, "1-2-3-4!" and the camera really quickly cuts to Mia's face and she looks even MORE distraught. The line is then followed by what you pointed out, "we could have been anything we wanted to be."
    You're right that song does make her reflect on what she had done. She herself had killed 4 people. Her boyfriend killed the innocent biker, not her. She only helped dispose of the body, but she didn't kill him.
    The people she killed (In order) were Mia's boyfriend, Shazia, Shazia's husband/boyfriend, and the baby. I think that 1-2-3-4 part brutally reminds her that she killed 4 people, and I love that it's her child that is inadvertently telling her that!

    • @astrowiz3544
      @astrowiz3544 6 лет назад +22

      Omg I didnt notice that. Good find!

  • @Lrozzie
    @Lrozzie 6 лет назад +158

    I actually interpreted the title Crocodile after the fact that crocodiles hide under water for a very long time before a potential victim unknowably approach them and gets eaten. That's the case with almost all of her victims thoughout the episode. Shazia incidetally get to know about the first murder, and the rest of her family are killed just in order to not make them trace the dissapearence of Shazia back to her.

  • @notEphim
    @notEphim 6 лет назад +51

    The episode was great, but the fact that police could read visual memory from a guinea pig made me laugh SO hard!

    • @Evija3000
      @Evija3000 4 года назад +6

      Also that tiny needle that goes into our head would seem much larger to a guinea pig, I imagine it could reach her skull and seriously harm her. Unless they have special small needles specifically for when they need to recall recent memories from rodents :D (their memory probably doesn't stay vivid for long).

  • @The482075
    @The482075 6 лет назад +77

    I would argue that Mia is the protagonist.
    To me protagonist is whoever is the main character. The most prominent character who is opposed to the main character is the antagonist. So Shazzia would be antagonist.
    Protagonists don't have to be heroes. Antagonists don't have to be villains.

    • @Marblewho
      @Marblewho 5 лет назад +15

      Bobby Ranger you're right. It's not a matter of opinion. It's in the definition of the word

    • @alainlepain4808
      @alainlepain4808 3 года назад +2

      @@Marblewho exactly why are people even arguing about that.

    • @oess855
      @oess855 2 года назад +2

      @@alainlepain4808 because they're slow and don't know antagonist and protagonist mean

    • @Gadget-Walkmen
      @Gadget-Walkmen Год назад

      lol what? She's OBVIOUSLY the protagonist, she's just the villain protagonist. Which has been done MANY times before. There's nothing to "Argue" about, nor is it "to YOU" at all either. She's in FACT the main protagonist.

  • @commanderwaddles3483
    @commanderwaddles3483 6 лет назад +28

    That actress displayed Mia's emotions SO WELL, I cannot handle how well she represents the mix of so many torn emotions Mia feels, killing so much while being such an empathetic person, out of so much fear, panic, & helplessness. I just . . . DAMN GURL

  • @TheChugg11
    @TheChugg11 6 лет назад +150

    Yay- new Black Mirror analysis!
    Must say, I found Mia's killing/hiding the body of Rob slightly ridiculous as she only weighs about 6 stone and it just didn't come off as something she'd be able to manage alone.

    • @Obangokung88888
      @Obangokung88888 6 лет назад +12

      I agree with everything you say prob adrenaline

    • @poupoulechou8591
      @poupoulechou8591 6 лет назад +4

      I had the same thought ! But I have read that the story was originally written with a male protagonist, but Andrea Riseborough (Mia) suggested that the part could be rewritten as a woman... In the original version the murder and hiding of a body would have been more believable ahah

    • @ms.bubs4fun506
      @ms.bubs4fun506 6 лет назад +6

      That makes sense that it was originally written for a male because that would explain why Shavia (sp?) was so helpless and couldn't fight back against another woman (Mia).

    • @seanharris8419
      @seanharris8419 Год назад

      @thedarkoverlord6902 Not to go to a dark place but if what you were saying was true then rape wouldn’t be an issue. Adrenaline is a hell of a thing but it still won’t allow you to overpower and murder someone twice your size. Sorry.

  • @freddypedraza2066
    @freddypedraza2066 5 лет назад +17

    Guinea pig: *I'm about to end this woman's whole career*

  • @devonmunn5728
    @devonmunn5728 6 лет назад +169

    Eh, I thought it was okay, the Shazia character was interesting though

    • @Sunborne187
      @Sunborne187 6 лет назад +11

      eh, what was so interesting about her exactly?

    • @meris8486
      @meris8486 6 лет назад +42

      I would've preferred if she was the main character
      the technology of the episode was actually interesting, it's a shame this wasn't the focus of the episode.

    • @raidengio
      @raidengio 6 лет назад +8

      headbite alien the tech is never the focus of the episode

    • @meris8486
      @meris8486 6 лет назад +2

      Gioiscool Yes it is

    • @nkirukaj2384
      @nkirukaj2384 6 лет назад +6

      headbite alien no it’s not. The people are.

  • @Patricia_Taxxon
    @Patricia_Taxxon 6 лет назад +449

    ???
    The entire point of the episode is that Mia goes on a killing spree because the memory machines left her no choice. It's extremely negative on surveillance.

    • @worrywirt
      @worrywirt 6 лет назад +247

      Eric Taxxon yeah but then again if the tech wouldn’t have been there, she would have got away with it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @Patricia_Taxxon
      @Patricia_Taxxon 6 лет назад +115

      She would have gotten away with the first hit and run, no more murder needed after that.

    • @griffin-rl
      @griffin-rl 6 лет назад +12

      Watch le whole video

    • @shanroxalot5354
      @shanroxalot5354 6 лет назад +139

      Actually, she would have gotten away with two. Her "friend's" death was not a result of the surveillance.

    • @Patricia_Taxxon
      @Patricia_Taxxon 6 лет назад +40

      She killed him because they would see her in the car with him when they read his memories. The subtext is very clear.

  • @winkinggerbil
    @winkinggerbil 6 лет назад +78

    I kind of like the costume design. Where she wore warm colours and had long hair in her youth, but now is ice cold with a hint of Myra Hindly :P It was a great episode. Sort of a tragic anti-hero character.

    • @cheesecakelasagna
      @cheesecakelasagna 6 лет назад +1

      Honey Suckle good eye!

    • @ms.bubs4fun506
      @ms.bubs4fun506 6 лет назад +2

      She didn't ask for the thug life. The thug life found her. lol

    • @YumiSumire
      @YumiSumire 5 лет назад +5

      Looks more like Ellen DeGeneres to me lol.

  • @Kazalex
    @Kazalex 6 лет назад +26

    Dude you're the best analyser of Black Mirror, other analysers just dont compare, I always get so excited when I see you have uploaded. Keep it up man, the details you spot and relate to the narrative are way past anything ive ever noticed

  • @sudonim7552
    @sudonim7552 6 лет назад +56

    I don't agree with seeing the technology in this episode as good. Yes, it could help catch murderers, but what other people could it catch? What other things could it do? It's the invasion of everyone's most private thing: our own minds. The fact that this technology is forced upon people by law is a disturbing idea.

    • @sharonshiku3273
      @sharonshiku3273 5 лет назад +3

      Murdered anyone lately? 😂

    • @bluedragon8762
      @bluedragon8762 5 лет назад +6

      It's also manipulatable

    • @bluedragon8762
      @bluedragon8762 5 лет назад +11

      @@sharonshiku3273 nope but the memories can be tampered with. The one man originally remembered a green jacket and when shania said it was yellow the memory changed it to have a yellow jacket. Ita unreliable. Also the Guinea pig wouldnt have been useful as you have to think on the incident. How are you going to get a ginea pig to do that?

    • @Evija3000
      @Evija3000 4 года назад +2

      @@bluedragon8762 If the baby screamed or made a fuss it could have made the guinea pig nervous and maybe that was the main thing on her mind still.

  • @bbgjiji8592
    @bbgjiji8592 6 лет назад +34

    i really wished you had talked about how shazia's (the middle eastern girl) car was not working that well in the begging and when she tried to get bak in the car wouldn't start

    • @astrowiz3544
      @astrowiz3544 6 лет назад +14

      But that's just obvious foreshadowing. Not necessary to analyze.

    • @karlmarx809
      @karlmarx809 6 лет назад +11

      I disagree that it was obvious because I totally didn't catch that. That's actually pretty smart foreshadowing/payoff as most movies/tv shows would just have the car not starting be completely random.

    • @astrowiz3544
      @astrowiz3544 6 лет назад

      Troy Bakeman well it was obvious to me.

    • @el_fabuloso
      @el_fabuloso 6 лет назад +13

      That was a really good detail and added to the tension of her escape scene from Mia knowing that her car has a tendency of having trouble starting.

  • @54321oiraMoiraM
    @54321oiraMoiraM 6 лет назад +65

    Isn't Mia the protagonist? She's the main character of the episode, even if she is "evil".

    • @cgt9056
      @cgt9056 6 лет назад +4

      54321oiraMoiraM you can also argue that she is the antagonist to Shariva's protagonist

    • @HancockVasquez
      @HancockVasquez 6 лет назад +20

      54321oiraMoiraM She's a villian protagonist

    • @astrowiz3544
      @astrowiz3544 6 лет назад +36

      Yeah, protagonist is just the focus of the story so it's definitely Mia. If anyone's the antagonist it's the Recaller device because it opposes Mia's motives.

    • @Sunborne187
      @Sunborne187 6 лет назад +5

      i liked how the trailer mislead us into thinking that Shazia was the main character. but in the end she was just another body.

    • @nkirukaj2384
      @nkirukaj2384 6 лет назад +1

      Haku GT no Mia is the protagonist. She is the focus of the episode, the main character

  • @todorecovery
    @todorecovery 4 года назад +12

    what pisses me off the most is that after ruining so many lives, she probably still feels sorry for herself.

    • @QuickMadeUpName
      @QuickMadeUpName Год назад +3

      It's about self preservation, why is no one mentioning this

  • @auntiecreeps1414
    @auntiecreeps1414 6 лет назад +63

    Tragic HERO??? Are you on glue?? She was the most loathsome character the show has given us yet! You've got to be trolling.

    • @markpostgate2551
      @markpostgate2551 6 лет назад +2

      Tragic heroes can be loathsome; MacBeth, Titus Andronicus, Medea, Michael Corleone et cetera.

    • @EatYourVegs
      @EatYourVegs 5 лет назад

      I mean she only did what was necessary to save her life from total destruction... Just that unlike other people she was able to do that because of her being a strong, acheiving woman and with low levels of empathy.

    • @dreamcanvas5321
      @dreamcanvas5321 5 лет назад +5

      @@EatYourVegs Except of course turning herself in after the initial incident. If she got a good lawyer, claimed she only complied with the coverup out of fear for her life (which is plausible) she may have only faced a minor crime or even no charges in exchange for her testimony. The driver may have faced negligent homicide but that's far less extreme than 2nd (when she killed him) or 1st degree murder (when she killed everyone else).
      I'm not saying if someone commits a serious crime the police are gonna be on your side, but it's a lot wiser to get yourself proper legal representation and go for a plea bargain than making the situation worse through efforts to cover it up.

  • @BrainPilot
    @BrainPilot 6 лет назад +197

    Nice video! I thought it was a good episode within the season. However, I don't think it would come close to the top when including every episode in the show.

    • @ara-pf5zx
      @ara-pf5zx 6 лет назад +4

      i agree, i loved it in this season, but when you think about some of the other black mirror episodes it doesn't quite hit the bar

    • @ms.bubs4fun506
      @ms.bubs4fun506 6 лет назад +3

      People are usually less accepting of the episodes with a female lead,

    • @Paul-iq8bu
      @Paul-iq8bu 6 лет назад

      Fuck off.

    • @Paul-iq8bu
      @Paul-iq8bu 6 лет назад +12

      When you realise that every episode of Season 4 had a female lead, but you still blame sexism.

    • @rc3018
      @rc3018 6 лет назад +1

      James James I'm a feminist and i agree with you. The person you were arguing with doesn't represent us. I just felt that i had to tell you this. Have a nice day! 😊

  • @starlight8554
    @starlight8554 6 лет назад +33

    I still don't particularly like this episode, but I appreciate the cinematography a lot more 👍

    • @sofiaa.1453
      @sofiaa.1453 6 лет назад +5

      Same. It was a little too messed up, even for Black Mirror. Just watched it, and pretty sure this episode is gonna mess me up for a week.

    • @the1dbumblebee317
      @the1dbumblebee317 6 лет назад +10

      Sofia A. A bit too messed up is what I love about black mirror

  • @dani-rr5oq
    @dani-rr5oq 4 года назад +26

    when they showed the baby after Mia killed the husband, I thought it was her realizing what she had done, leaving an innocent child to be an orphan, especially since she had a child herself. when the policeman asked “who kills a baby?” I swear I got chills through my whole body. definitely one of the most disturbing black mirror episodes in my opinion.

  • @UnvarnishedTarnished
    @UnvarnishedTarnished 6 лет назад +43

    "Anyone who knows what love is" was 100% purposeful... The song is about an abusive relationship and how you end up staying because you love certain things about it but not others. Mia didn't want to kill people, she didn't like it.. but she did it because it protected things she loved.

    • @naserdeen8210
      @naserdeen8210 6 лет назад +2

      wow spot on

    • @franchescabaylon6815
      @franchescabaylon6815 4 года назад +3

      @Ryanator true honestly. the more she killed, the less it seemed to be about her family, and the more it felt that she did this just to get away with it.

  • @allbritishpeoplearewizards7916
    @allbritishpeoplearewizards7916 6 лет назад +19

    yes cause the best hero's kill baby's for selfish reasons

  • @quinnhall8205
    @quinnhall8205 2 года назад +10

    I think another important point is that if it wasn't for the recaller machine, there would have been less murders. And the fact that memories can be manipulated. You can make a person recall memories that never happened, just through manipulation.

  • @gabbycattell9030
    @gabbycattell9030 5 лет назад +10

    does the guinea pig get a beer during the memory test lol.

  • @xINF4MOUSx97
    @xINF4MOUSx97 6 лет назад +27

    Is no one going to talk about the fact that a thin woman was able to hold back, pin down, and choke a pretty large man to death, AND was able to drag his body around afterward without much stress or effort? It completely took me out of the episode.

    • @gvjudd1289
      @gvjudd1289 6 лет назад +2

      looks like it ,ignoring reality is the fashion these days

    • @RuddsReels
      @RuddsReels 5 лет назад +1

      +MistuhWhite
      The exact same thing happened to me! The problem was the man didn't even fight back! The best he done was to grab the back of her head and just kept it there! No pulling action or nothing! Typical feminist "average women can beat men up" bullshit!
      to 문외한
      I take it you feel insecure about men being stronger than women? Playing little fantasies in your head is not reality. Enough with the female shaming language!

    • @animalatom
      @animalatom 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah no way she would be able to overpower someone twice her size

    • @Evija3000
      @Evija3000 4 года назад +5

      He did seriously hit his head when falling. I'm guessing that was meant as an explanation. He got stunned, disoriented, something like that. He didn't expect violence and she got lucky.
      Her dragging him around unnoticed though is tough. I get that there might be adrenaline involved, but even assuming she could drag him because of that, it would take a lot of time. Someone could have easily walked past her in the parking during that time. Also in the very beginning of the episode the guy was struggling hard with dragging another guy so in comparison this should have been near impossible.

  • @IamE0N
    @IamE0N 6 лет назад +13

    Regarding the episode's depiction of surveillance - yes, the murders wouldn't have been solved without it, but also the murders never would have happened.

  • @OfficialEDC
    @OfficialEDC 6 лет назад +120

    Great analysis! Crocodile belongs to my favorite episodes because of the beautiful composed scenes, the bleak storyline and her incredible acting.
    I guess people don’t like it because of the baby scene and the guinea pig reveal and because they think her actions were irrational. But to me, whose eyes are glued to the screen looking for small details, this episode gave me the chills (and heavy depression for 2 days).

    • @KookiesNolly
      @KookiesNolly 6 лет назад +27

      it always baffles when people expect rationality from humans 24/7 in all kind of situations (even when you've just killed someone) when we aren't even rational in our everyday life.

    • @OfficialEDC
      @OfficialEDC 6 лет назад +3

      Eli N.S THANK YOU!

    • @Sunborne187
      @Sunborne187 6 лет назад +27

      the guinea pig scene was the best one tho, for it's almost comical sense of justice.

    • @OfficialEDC
      @OfficialEDC 6 лет назад +26

      Rick D exactly! And the baby being blind was the cherry on top that she didn’t even need to kill it.

    • @ElkeDragos
      @ElkeDragos 6 лет назад +1

      OfficialEDC yes!!! You said it better than I could. I loved it!

  • @blainetruth2134
    @blainetruth2134 6 лет назад +48

    I love you harry ;)

  • @panjidewandono5312
    @panjidewandono5312 6 лет назад +15

    Mia have mastered the ability of standing so incredibly still that she became invisible to the eye

  • @Maxbass700
    @Maxbass700 6 лет назад +120

    She is no where near perfect, but Robert lead her down a path of cover up and forget. Mia wanted to face the consequences then and there when it happened, but now Robert wants to take responsibility years after the fact. Mia had created a life to forget there horrible deed and it seems that Robert is just doing this because he hasn't bettered himself like she has. I believe Robert is one of the antagonists since it was his actions that lead pushed Mia down a path to eventually becoming a monster.

    • @danielpattersontube
      @danielpattersontube 6 лет назад +28

      Wouldn't it make sense that Robert hasn't bettered himself if he's living with the guilt of what happened? He finally makes the decision to redeem himself and relieve the burden but Mia spent so long suppressing and denying any responsibility that she would happily murder an old friend instead of just listening to what he had to say

    • @pathetic2399
      @pathetic2399 6 лет назад +24

      Mia allowed herself to become a monster by killing him which she didn't have to do. She also didn't have to kill the woman or her family. Itnwasnt an impulse kill. She chose to do it. And she shed crocodile tears not because she was sorry but because she wanted to cover her own ass by whatever means necessary. Sure it was Roberts fault to begin with but even if he hadnt come to her about telling the truth, she probably would have been arrested alongside him anyway because she was an accomplice. They were both in the wrong but she ended up becoming far worse.

    • @MyKeyMoonShine
      @MyKeyMoonShine 6 лет назад +15

      Pathetic I think the point is that the accident was his fault as he was driving. She wouldn't have faced the consequences of it if they had come clean in the first place, he would. She chose to lie and by doing that she incriminated herself to protect him and then he decides to come clean which put her in danger not because she was involved in the accident but because she helped cover it up for him. So basically he pressured her into incriminating herself and then was going to basically turn her in to alleviate his guilt. So when she was confronted with this she chose to put herself first rather than putting other people first because that only blew up in her face and that is how she became a monster.

    • @Keihryon
      @Keihryon 6 лет назад +4

      It's quite easy that while Shazia was digging around in her head looking for stuff on the accident, that she got a glimpse of the cycler's murder also...and bam, her family still dies even without Robert's interference. So yeah...no. The only antagonist in the episode, is Mia.

    • @TheJoeMoe92
      @TheJoeMoe92 6 лет назад +6

      From a narrative point of view, I think it is safe to say that Mia is the protagonist, and both Shazia and Robert serves as antagonists (sounds really horrible, but that is kind of the point of the story). It is Mia's character arc we are following, it is Mia's conclusion we are landing on. Shazia and Robert are both antagonists because they are getting in the way of Mia's goal, which is to live life guilt free and with no legal chargers. This is not a story about moral growth, quite the opposite to be honest, which is why it is more or less impossible to root for someone like Mia. But yeah, it is still her story, she is still making the narrative choices, she is the protagonist.

  • @wemiphiri3466
    @wemiphiri3466 3 года назад +9

    The worst part is her ex boyfriend just wanted to give another family closure. she didn't technically do anything as she wasn't the one driving but now she's a cold blooded killer :/

    • @idreadFell365
      @idreadFell365 Год назад

      I mean, even if he sends the letter anonymously, the tech they have in their world can be used to track them both and if she can be jailed for being an accomplice, her career is screwed.

  • @milboxr9772
    @milboxr9772 6 лет назад +23

    Least favorite episode so far, it's so frustrating seeing her get away with all these murders especially the husband who saw her yet didn't block or anything, Mia's super skinny! I stopped sympathizing with Mia right after she murdered her ex, by then I just wanted her to get caught already..atleast she presumably got caught in the end with the Ginnie pig, Ginnie pig ftw!!!

    • @Evija3000
      @Evija3000 4 года назад +2

      It wasn't even like he wanted to admit to police or something. The chance it could be traced to her was very small.

  • @huxafa1
    @huxafa1 6 лет назад +11

    Great analysis as always, although one little thing that you let pass is that Shazia didn't say that the police didn't use it anymore. She said that now not only them use it, but everyone. But is just a detail.

  • @LegalVampire
    @LegalVampire 6 лет назад +8

    This episode made me feel sick :\

  • @LeeLee19901
    @LeeLee19901 3 года назад +2

    In my opinion crocodile is one of the most darkest episode of black mirror

  • @weldsj8847
    @weldsj8847 6 лет назад +49

    Er, no. She is not a tragic hero. She is desperately human. She is confronted with the destruction of her own life but what she does in order to survive is unforgivable.

  • @aprilmay6013
    @aprilmay6013 6 лет назад +113

    Can't wait for the metalhead analysis 😄

    • @SaraStar7373
      @SaraStar7373 6 лет назад +24

      april may I’d love to hear your thoughts, this is one episode I didnt really get into

    • @aprilmay6013
      @aprilmay6013 6 лет назад +11

      Sara Dickson i don't really know what i loved about it maybe it's the black and white filter or the thing that the entire episode is nearly speakless and he achieve to make you feel something or even the last shot that i find stunning. i am sad that you didn't appreciate :/ i think this is why black mirror is such a good series everyone has a different point of view depends on your personal experience you can love 15 million merits and hate black museum depends on what you been through i hope you enjoyed more the others episode :)
      (Sorry for my bad english i am french and i am still learning)

    • @marielgracerussaneeclavea2865
      @marielgracerussaneeclavea2865 6 лет назад +4

      april may I dislike metalhead but I agree with your points. all black mirror is good. it's up to us what to like most

    • @ijustintime4u2bui46
      @ijustintime4u2bui46 6 лет назад +1

      yeah the metalhead analysis would be good, the endings of all S4 episodes (except for arkangel a bit) really turned the tables on the episodes which resulted in the narrative kinda getting a bit jumbled or at worst completely redundant

    • @eye_balling
      @eye_balling 6 лет назад +1

      I agree completely! It was a different take on how technology affects us, with the theme being less about in-depth messages and more about how technology is moving towards an "ultimate end." The black&white really added to the bleak atmosphere and the acting (RIP Clarke) was amazing. The ending was really good too, giving you hope when Bella killed the dog and then bringing it right back down when she ended up full of trackers and committed suicide - all for some teddy bears.
      Also, this episode introduced me to "Golden Brown" by The Stranglers, a really great song.

  • @stevocon8521
    @stevocon8521 6 лет назад +15

    Don't watch this episode before bed

    • @karlmarx809
      @karlmarx809 6 лет назад +3

      Stevo Con The way she slinked around in that house before killing the insurance agent's husband was so creepy. Damn crocodiles...

    • @nkirukaj2384
      @nkirukaj2384 6 лет назад

      Facts, I saw this every time I closed my eyes while I was trying to sleep

  • @thewhitewolf58
    @thewhitewolf58 6 лет назад +29

    Was i the only one rooting for mia to get exposed and arrested this whole time because she is willing to kill people before manning up and facing the consequences of her actions

    • @hollywoodshopaholic
      @hollywoodshopaholic 5 лет назад +2

      Yeah, I have no sympathy for drunk drivers or people who abet them.

  • @sharondalewis1620
    @sharondalewis1620 5 лет назад +5

    1. The water on the screen also represents the water they threw the body into.
    2. Shazia didn't lie about the police bit. She only said that it's not only for police since last year, meaning police still use it, but also other entities are allowed to use this technology now.

  • @davidstrenner4305
    @davidstrenner4305 6 лет назад +72

    I think 'crocodile' could be a reference to "See you later, aligator" because everytime she kills someone the murder comes up later in the story, but this is mostly shooting in the dark

    • @GreenyZay
      @GreenyZay 6 лет назад +13

      Dávid Strenner I read on a website that it referenced a fable of a hamster being the downfall of a crocodile

    • @ms.bubs4fun506
      @ms.bubs4fun506 6 лет назад +2

      or "See you in awhile, crocodile."

    • @upon.my.liars.chair.
      @upon.my.liars.chair. 6 лет назад +4

      Crocodiles and alligators are two different animals

  • @Lougikiro
    @Lougikiro 5 лет назад +6

    I feel that this episode shows surveillance as a negative even though it ends up saving the day, it is also the prime motivation for the crimes to escalate and become worse and worse - the only reason she gets caught is because of something she didn't know about - and if she did, it would have died too.

  • @jammyjamzz
    @jammyjamzz 6 лет назад +135

    Yes another black mirror analysis

  • @kamiltrzebiatowski3745
    @kamiltrzebiatowski3745 6 лет назад +5

    The final comment is, of course, on the striking difference between the kind of places that the insurance lady visits and lives in - very poor (particularly the lady she visits in the first place) and quite kind (the family is presented in a very positive light of course, but the house appears very basic) and the extremely rich house that our murderer lives in. In that, a comment is made perhaps on the stratification of society and the middle- and upper-classes preserving their status at all costs whilst keeping the lower classes in the dirt?

  • @deadletter4317
    @deadletter4317 6 лет назад +3

    The episode set in Iceland where everyone is British 😒

  • @garethdowson
    @garethdowson 4 года назад +4

    I was disappointed following Shazia uncovering Mia's memories. Up until then I was gripped. But killing an entire family jumped the shark for me.

  • @xenon8117
    @xenon8117 5 лет назад +2

    I struggle to believe she would kill the baby and not the guinea pig. She would have just gone all the way in real life.
    And I doubt the pigs memory would be close enough to be useful, considering they can’t get it to think about the event and trigger it’s memories properly.
    Great episode though even with those flaws.

  • @Darbage
    @Darbage 6 лет назад +10

    Any insight on all the references to Fifteen Million Merits throughout this episode?

    • @soulfoodie1
      @soulfoodie1 6 лет назад +2

      darbage there has been some interesting debate that the buildings Mia are designing are those used in 15 million merits - it puts an interesting spin on what Mia is doing!

    • @eiosti
      @eiosti 6 лет назад +2

      that song is used throughout all of black mirror

    • @eiosti
      @eiosti 6 лет назад

      I hate the current RUclips commenting system. I was replying to the original comment without reading any of the replies, and you still get a notification that someone replied, with no clue who to

  • @mnjeh
    @mnjeh 5 лет назад +2

    Crocodile tears means fake tears

  • @jaimemaldonado5513
    @jaimemaldonado5513 6 лет назад +6

    These black mirror analysis are amazing! Can't wait for hang the DJ

  • @jevilz9858
    @jevilz9858 4 года назад +1

    If you think about that she murdered a family cold blood and a guinea pig brings justice.

  • @George_Azeria
    @George_Azeria 6 лет назад +5

    6:05 that isn’t what they meant there, they meant police exclusive, which they aren’t anymore

  • @savannahlevy97
    @savannahlevy97 3 года назад +1

    I came to this review the moment shazia was about to interview Mia because I had developed an attachment to Shazia and didn't want to see her get killed. But finding out she not only kills Shazia but her whole family... jeez. I'm glad I wussed out because I wouldn't be able to watch that

  • @christophmahler
    @christophmahler 6 лет назад +16

    The 'crocodile reference' appears to me as *moralism* .
    The character Mia doesn't show "some guilt", but is *struggling* with EVERY single step on her path, when she almost constantly cries or is about to throw up - very much *unlike* *a* *coldblooded* (reference to a *reptilian* ) psychopath, who gains confidence by the ability to force his will upon others. All of her murders were *strictly* necessary in order to avoid a severe impact on her family due to a lapse of judgement in her youth: when Rob commits manslaughter by accident and refuses to take responsibility.
    It is precisely because Mia feels *compassion* for victims and their families from the moment on, the bicyclist was run over, a haunting sense of *tragedy* can be experienced from this episode.
    Everyone who easily judges and devalues her character's actions as "unspeakable", "monstrous", "wicked" ect. obviously feels no serious obligations to a family. The proper attribute for the depicted events, free from moralism, is simply that: *sad* !
    And the technological progress that helps to solve the crimes can't prevent the escalation of these sad events that life unfolds...

    • @deprofundis3293
      @deprofundis3293 Год назад +1

      True

    • @christophmahler
      @christophmahler Год назад

      @@deprofundis3293
      The most popular comments appear as if uttered by children, watching a 'Punch and Judy' play, knowing what to say when _the crocodile_ enters the stage - because they sense how the other children react, up to the adults who arrange the play.
      They are still children, because they have not yet experienced that without the antagonist, there can be no play.

  • @jncrane5032
    @jncrane5032 5 лет назад +2

    You've just called the x4 murderer (baby murderer too) a tragic hero??

  • @DANKKrish
    @DANKKrish 6 лет назад +34

    1:00 no, she's the villain but not the antagonist (she's the protagonist) getcho facts rite

    • @hankscorpio7767
      @hankscorpio7767 6 лет назад

      Look up the definition of protagonist

    • @Aristocratic13
      @Aristocratic13 5 лет назад

      +Hank Scorpio she is the protagonist

    • @Marblewho
      @Marblewho 5 лет назад

      Hank Scorpio she is the protagonist. Antagonists aren't necessarily bad

  • @JREG
    @JREG 6 лет назад

    Shazia was lying when she said that it was a legal requirement. Also, like half the crocodile analogies were a stretch.

  • @beaconofwierd1883
    @beaconofwierd1883 6 лет назад +6

    The main reason I don't like this episode was because there were obvious and simple solutions to avoid or stop the killing spree.
    Made no sense for her to kill Robert, if he felt guilt for it he could have just taken all the responsibility himself, say that he drove alone and not involve Mia at all. Also, the way she killed him was not very believable considering their size difference :/ It's just nitpicking, but I'd find a stabbing or poisoning or anything not relying on "brute strength" and dumb luck that he somehow hit his head without parrying his fall in any way. And don't give me the "she was holding his arms to prevent him", when you fall you will use basically all your strength on reflex to try not to get hurt, even if she held her hands tight around his back when he moves his arms up to catch himself her arms would just slide up over because unless she is a cyborg she doesn't have the strength to hold his arms down, her arms look like sticks and she looks like she weighs almost half what he weighs. Just kill him in a beliavable way, it was just a needless way to break the suspension of disbelief.
    Also, most black mirror episodes has a "moral dilemma/question" this didn't really have one :/

    • @marinatrocin1730
      @marinatrocin1730 6 лет назад +3

      if he confessed they would have used the memory device on him, and they would see Mia's involvement

    • @beaconofwierd1883
      @beaconofwierd1883 6 лет назад

      huh, you're right. Still, after killing that insurance agent the logical thing to do would be to just interrogate everyone she had contact with during the last couple of days, and Mia would be busted again.
      And the unbelievable way she killed Robert still bugs me, and I didn't quite see the "point" of the episode :p

    • @karlmarx809
      @karlmarx809 6 лет назад +6

      The point is to watch someone's descent into madness and evil by not being able to face up to the crimes of their past. It's a pretty traditional story of someone getting caught up in a web of deceit and trying to cover her tracks. By doing so, she created infinitely more problems for herself and family than if she had just confessed to helping cover up the car accident. Just like the song the kids are singing at the end, Mia could've chosen to be anything. She had options when her ex-boyfriend walked into her hotel room, and she made the wrong choice. What makes it a compelling story is that you can empathize with her at first. But after she kills the insurance agent you realize she's on a road of no return and she transforms into the crocodile.

    • @beaconofwierd1883
      @beaconofwierd1883 6 лет назад +1

      That's probably why I didn't like the story :p I mean that I couldn't empathize with her. And I agree, the "fall from grace" story is a very old one, but I found "nose dive" to be a lot better telling of the same kind of story while at the same time critizising our own obsession with staying popular. This story felt lacking in the "moral warning" or social critisism which many black mirror episodes have.

    • @nkirukaj2384
      @nkirukaj2384 6 лет назад

      Marina Trocin I’m pretty sure he said that he was going to make the letter anonymous, just so the lady would know her husband was dead and stop looking for him, but also, the memories can be coerced or changed, especially since it was 15 years ago, and Mia looked completely different back then, so they could claim it wasn’t her

  • @brjtney
    @brjtney 2 года назад +2

    They should have named this Guinea Pig

  • @christianrincon5697
    @christianrincon5697 5 лет назад +12

    Am i the only one who kinda liked this episdoe

    • @CrocaHead
      @CrocaHead 5 лет назад +2

      Yes. I hated it xD

  • @ryanratchford2530
    @ryanratchford2530 5 лет назад +2

    6:10 I think she meant they are no longer just “police things” & are available to the public now

  • @layoverbear
    @layoverbear 6 лет назад +26

    I absolutely loved this episode. It’s second on my list. Don’t know why everyone is hating it. Also, love your analysis videos :)

    • @sirhandsome5107
      @sirhandsome5107 6 лет назад +4

      inglourious basterds this is also my fave episode of all episodes. Shut up and dance is right there for me as well. 🍻 Cheers.

    • @63saruman
      @63saruman 6 лет назад +3

      I loved Shut Up and Dance. I guess my mind is totally f***d.

    • @layoverbear
      @layoverbear 6 лет назад +1

      Martin Rangel it’s number one on my list of all seasons. I guess i am too.

    • @djoekeb7044
      @djoekeb7044 6 лет назад

      inglourious basterds what's is your second favourite?

    • @gutierre6626
      @gutierre6626 6 лет назад +3

      People hated it because we didn’t get to see any justice

  • @cuzzintruck2
    @cuzzintruck2 4 года назад

    Shazia was such a liar, and no one calls her out for being crazy about money.

  • @DCclayster
    @DCclayster 6 лет назад +3

    It's interesting how much was focused on the title, which is good. I thought it was just a cool random relentless predator which is funny to contrast with the cold environment, but a lot of the parallels are certainly note full. Also the idea of someone just acting like a relentless predator is scary as fuck. I'll say that you probably should of been more focus on the technology, though I guess that it already tied into previous comments you had on privacy, and I guess you wanted to avoid repetitiveness, anyway, good work :)

  • @antsinmyeyesjohnson7709
    @antsinmyeyesjohnson7709 6 лет назад +2

    When shazia was begin killed she said something in Arabic. The phrase is spoken when someone here's of death basically something you say after someone dies but shazia said it moments before her death so it was interesting the show proposed the idea of reading a death verse for yourself.just a thought I suppose

  • @kouzaris579
    @kouzaris579 5 лет назад +3

    Late comment but what I took the "police" comment was; is that it used to be *only* the police who had access to the recaller. As she says something to the effect of "we all have them now."
    Love your videos as always man. I always watch these after the actual episodes religiously hahaha

  • @ElShak
    @ElShak Год назад +1

    Una de las cosas que mas me impactaron, ademas de lo obvio, es que estes obligado por ley a tener que mostrar tus memorias a una compañia de seguros. Es una violacion horrible a tu privacidad y a tus derechos fundamentales.

  • @lukeaustin3175
    @lukeaustin3175 6 лет назад +4

    I honestly cannot wait for you to get your teeth into Black Museum! SO MANY EASTER EGGS

  • @scotthewitt258
    @scotthewitt258 2 года назад +2

    In a series that has mastered twist endings in a way that would make M. Night jealous, this has one of the best twists in ANY movie or TV show. That they can synthcord the rodent to identify the killer.....

  • @carlostejada1479
    @carlostejada1479 6 лет назад +3

    a woman killing a man just with her hands (1st murder)
    yeah right!!!
    that's not possible, sorry..,
    and they both could send money to the old lady explaining her what happenes

    • @gvjudd1289
      @gvjudd1289 6 лет назад +1

      stupid was it not

    • @carlostejada1479
      @carlostejada1479 6 лет назад +1

      gvjudd
      what??

    • @kriskater
      @kriskater 5 лет назад

      She smacked his head against the tile floor. That can easily kill someone

  • @KuraSourTakanHour
    @KuraSourTakanHour 6 лет назад +1

    Tragic-hero? she's not any kind of "hero". The deeds of hero's have to help/save people, even anti-hero's help people by going against the law or norms, but she even killed a baby just to save herself, or she thought.

  • @kamiltrzebiatowski3745
    @kamiltrzebiatowski3745 6 лет назад +15

    Not sure this is in the comments below, but I also thought the fact it was a white blonde woman on murder spree of what appears to be a Muslim family is not something we see a lot, and adds another layer of complexity to the episode.

    • @assass8006
      @assass8006 4 года назад

      who cares. are u racist?

  • @gorvindougwinkristoffiplob5137
    @gorvindougwinkristoffiplob5137 4 года назад +1

    mia going on to kill reminds me of something charlie brooker said on How TV Ruined your life (i'm paraphrasing here)
    "most killers aren't masterminds or artisan killers, they're often pathetic individuals that have killed in ill-thought out panic and don't know what to do after committing their crime..."

  • @therisingdyingidiot8022
    @therisingdyingidiot8022 6 лет назад +38

    I was more angry about the insurance companies basically using such invasive technology, then Mia killing the kid.

    • @KookiesNolly
      @KookiesNolly 6 лет назад +3

      same

    • @drakashrakenburgproduction5369
      @drakashrakenburgproduction5369 6 лет назад +14

      Eli N.S you guys are wierd

    • @h.z6870
      @h.z6870 6 лет назад +17

      Maybe because you can't comprehend/imagine how bad it would be murdering a baby. It's just words to you. But if you'd spent time with a baby before, and grown to love one, it would completely shatter your heart and sicken you beyond belief at just the thought of killing an innocent baby. (I don't know why I said innocent baby, I don't know any babies that are not innocent).

    • @KookiesNolly
      @KookiesNolly 6 лет назад +7

      Nobody Thing I have already spent time with a lot of babies actually. I have a niece, she’s 6 y/o now, I was basically a babysitter for 3 years, she’s like my little sister.
      The thing is while watching the episode, I was concerned about the legal implications behind the use of that technology, and I kept asking myself if it was ethical to use all those devices like that. Is it really ok to allow things like this on the premise that if you have nothing to hide you shouldn’t care about the government watching your memories??? It’s like the issues with mass surveillance we face today. Is it really ok to give up our privacy in order to fight terrorism for example. Those are complicated ethical questions that the episode raises.
      I’m sorry if I didn’t cry when a baby was killed in a fucking tv show. If it was real it would have touch me more I guess, I just don’t care about fake babies death, especially when I a busy thinking about current ethical issues.

    • @user-xv6mp1lq8l
      @user-xv6mp1lq8l 6 лет назад +1

      AUU wow fucked up much