Paul, I am going to call your design PURE GENIUS!!!! That is the most genius rain catchment system that I have ever seen on any craft. Nothing sticking up in the air like fiddles on a monohull. Making multiple functions on a design is the goal of any engineer, and by golly, you have done it!
Watching the panel flip it looks like the gutters are adding some additional stiffness and maybe strength on the outside edge. Having extra glass there seems like good protection. Great progress.
When you we’re fairing the glass what was the cloth you put down on the fairing compound. Reasons for doing this would be great cheers greg. I’m building a wilderness 1120 x here in Australia
It's called Coremat. I could go into a long discussion of why we used it, but I'll just mention one of the reasons, then link a web page that explains the rest. We needed a way to form the curve of the trough on the flipped over panels, and gravity would make wet fiberglass sag, where Coremat has enough stiffness to hold the curve. But, as I said, there are other reasons for using a core material between layers of fiberglass, which you may read about here: compositeenvisions.com/document/core-materials/ They show Coremat as one option in the list below the second paragraph.
I just wondered how you will separate salt water from your rain water catchment system or will the filtration system take care of it, great show haven’t missed one best of luck from Richy in the UK keep up the good work
Rain water is fresh water. But as it starts raining, the water landing on the cabin top may pickup salt (and dirt) that has gathered there from dried splashes of saltwater or just gathered dust. For that reason, as it starts raining, it is best to let that initial dirty water gathered by the rain catchment system flow off and into the ocean for awhile until the salt and dirt is washed off. We will have an electronic switch at the helm that can send the water overboard, or to our filtration system. So, for a few minutes, we will let the rain wash the boat without collecting the water, then flip the switch and send it into a filter system and from there into separate water tanks from our water made with our water maker. Before using this collected water, we can run a test on that water to make sure it is clean enough (not too much salt content for humans). This way, it won't contaminate our 'good' water when we collect it and can be tested before use.
Did you put mold release on the pvc pipe? Like packing tape or something? Or did it just pop out without anything? I have had epoxy stick to pvc before. Just curious.
We tried plastic tape, but that didn't work well. So we went with a light coating of lithium grease. Since this was on top of peel ply, that worked well.
Did it help to add rigidity to the outboard sides to help hold their shape when you filled the edges with the filler? Can’t wait until next weekend! Stay safe!
Not really. The Coremat was for that, adding a little rigidity between the layers of fiberglass on either side. The fairing compound along the edges was to smooth out the transition so that the fiberglass laid down without a void along that edge.
My advice would be: Do not add much of a such complicated sollutions. Just make a simple rised edge on the roof and go on. You have a lot of work ahead. But as always you will go your way :))
First off I want to say what you’re doing is respectful. But neither of you are young, you both are at the age when any day you could pass. Why not just buy a working functional boat and modify to your needs and start your sailing adventure? Will it have every thing you plan this boat to have, no but it will get you around the world. You’re spend all your retirement years and retirement money working harder than you have in many years. What happens if one of you is injured or dies before the boat is finished? As a registered nurse and a life insurance underwriter, statistically 1 of you will not see the end of this build.
People keep asking this question, which is why we made a video that addresses it. ruclips.net/video/rYYcbAvo4t0/видео.html Besides... building the boat makes us happy. Many people think that getting out on the water is the only goal... it is just one goal, but building our own boat is another that we enjoy and the only way to reach our cruising goal (see video linked above).
Acorn to Arabella took 8 years to see water and has just started its first sailing, had tons of volunteers and full time help. Tally Ho took 7 years to see water, still not ready for its first sailing, Leo is an experience shipwright also had tons of volunteers and full time help. Even boats built in factories, like La Vagabonde III, Curiosity II, and Tula’s Laurie-Sue took years to be built. So physically, it’s just you and your first mate working on the whole thing full time. I understand it’s a kit, but once the structure is built, it will still take years to finish, and at the pace you guys are going it will take years to finish the structure. I think if you were 20 years younger this would be a great option, but it just makes me sad to think neither of you may enjoy all this hard work you’re putting into this, not to mention enjoying your last years on earth after all the hard work you’ve done in your life prior to this build.
@@jonblair5470 You can have your opinion, they are free, but we don't share your view. The other 1520 being built will complete this kit boat in one year. We will take far longer, but how much longer doesn't matter. We can do what we want with our time. I'm not sure what you think you are achieving by jumping on us about our age and how long it will take to build our boat. What we choose to do with our lives is our own choice. Your opinion about those choices means nothing to us. You don't know our goals or desires, what makes us happy and what doesn't. I've spent a lot of my life dealing with people telling me what I can't do, I have just ignored them and done what I want anyway. That's what I will do about your opinion.
@jonblair5470 What are you doing with your life? You going for? Challenging yourself? Creating something? Or just critical of others that are doing something adventurous? My wife's mom is 107. Nobody knows their end date. I know my plan is to keep going for it right up to the end.
Paul, I am going to call your design PURE GENIUS!!!! That is the most genius rain catchment system that I have ever seen on any craft. Nothing sticking up in the air like fiddles on a monohull. Making multiple functions on a design is the goal of any engineer, and by golly, you have done it!
Thanks, we appreciate your comment, but the name is Phil 😉
I'm very pleased to see how well this is moving forward!
All the best,
M-
We're picking up speed!
Nice progress, Cap.
Thanks! Wait until you see the cabin top go up in the next video! I'm headed to the lot in an hour to get that done!
Well done
Thanks!
Watching the panel flip it looks like the gutters are adding some additional stiffness and maybe strength on the outside edge. Having extra glass there seems like good protection. Great progress.
Thanks, we hope so. 🙂
When you we’re fairing the glass what was the cloth you put down on the fairing compound. Reasons for doing this would be great cheers greg. I’m building a wilderness 1120 x here in Australia
It's called Coremat. I could go into a long discussion of why we used it, but I'll just mention one of the reasons, then link a web page that explains the rest. We needed a way to form the curve of the trough on the flipped over panels, and gravity would make wet fiberglass sag, where Coremat has enough stiffness to hold the curve. But, as I said, there are other reasons for using a core material between layers of fiberglass, which you may read about here: compositeenvisions.com/document/core-materials/
They show Coremat as one option in the list below the second paragraph.
You are both proceeding at pace.😀👍⛵️Unrelated question - have you viewed any of RAN Sailings build?
Yes, I watch that channel.
I just wondered how you will separate salt water from your rain water catchment system or will the filtration system take care of it, great show haven’t missed one best of luck from Richy in the UK keep up the good work
Rain water is fresh water. But as it starts raining, the water landing on the cabin top may pickup salt (and dirt) that has gathered there from dried splashes of saltwater or just gathered dust. For that reason, as it starts raining, it is best to let that initial dirty water gathered by the rain catchment system flow off and into the ocean for awhile until the salt and dirt is washed off. We will have an electronic switch at the helm that can send the water overboard, or to our filtration system. So, for a few minutes, we will let the rain wash the boat without collecting the water, then flip the switch and send it into a filter system and from there into separate water tanks from our water made with our water maker. Before using this collected water, we can run a test on that water to make sure it is clean enough (not too much salt content for humans). This way, it won't contaminate our 'good' water when we collect it and can be tested before use.
when finished you'll have to come visit here in Thailand I'm maybe 2 miles from the😄beach
Thailand is on our planned route, so we'll see you there!
Did you put mold release on the pvc pipe? Like packing tape or something? Or did it just pop out without anything? I have had epoxy stick to pvc before. Just curious.
We tried plastic tape, but that didn't work well. So we went with a light coating of lithium grease. Since this was on top of peel ply, that worked well.
Nice to have some lED lights under the edge ?
Red port ,green stab
Yeah, we'll look into lighting along there when we get to that stage.
Did it help to add rigidity to the outboard sides to help hold their shape when you filled the edges with the filler? Can’t wait until next weekend! Stay safe!
Not really. The Coremat was for that, adding a little rigidity between the layers of fiberglass on either side. The fairing compound along the edges was to smooth out the transition so that the fiberglass laid down without a void along that edge.
Are you going to put solar panels on top of the roof
Yes, nearly 5kw worth. 🙂
My advice would be: Do not add much of a such complicated sollutions. Just make a simple rised edge on the roof and go on. You have a lot of work ahead.
But as always you will go your way :))
It's all done.
First off I want to say what you’re doing is respectful. But neither of you are young, you both are at the age when any day you could pass. Why not just buy a working functional boat and modify to your needs and start your sailing adventure? Will it have every thing you plan this boat to have, no but it will get you around the world. You’re spend all your retirement years and retirement money working harder than you have in many years. What happens if one of you is injured or dies before the boat is finished? As a registered nurse and a life insurance underwriter, statistically 1 of you will not see the end of this build.
People keep asking this question, which is why we made a video that addresses it.
ruclips.net/video/rYYcbAvo4t0/видео.html
Besides... building the boat makes us happy. Many people think that getting out on the water is the only goal... it is just one goal, but building our own boat is another that we enjoy and the only way to reach our cruising goal (see video linked above).
Acorn to Arabella took 8 years to see water and has just started its first sailing, had tons of volunteers and full time help. Tally Ho took 7 years to see water, still not ready for its first sailing, Leo is an experience shipwright also had tons of volunteers and full time help. Even boats built in factories, like La Vagabonde III, Curiosity II, and Tula’s Laurie-Sue took years to be built. So physically, it’s just you and your first mate working on the whole thing full time. I understand it’s a kit, but once the structure is built, it will still take years to finish, and at the pace you guys are going it will take years to finish the structure. I think if you were 20 years younger this would be a great option, but it just makes me sad to think neither of you may enjoy all this hard work you’re putting into this, not to mention enjoying your last years on earth after all the hard work you’ve done in your life prior to this build.
These two have a good plan. Please watch their first videos. You will see.
@@jonblair5470 You can have your opinion, they are free, but we don't share your view. The other 1520 being built will complete this kit boat in one year. We will take far longer, but how much longer doesn't matter. We can do what we want with our time. I'm not sure what you think you are achieving by jumping on us about our age and how long it will take to build our boat. What we choose to do with our lives is our own choice. Your opinion about those choices means nothing to us. You don't know our goals or desires, what makes us happy and what doesn't. I've spent a lot of my life dealing with people telling me what I can't do, I have just ignored them and done what I want anyway. That's what I will do about your opinion.
@jonblair5470 What are you doing with your life? You going for? Challenging yourself? Creating something? Or just critical of others that are doing something adventurous? My wife's mom is 107. Nobody knows their end date. I know my plan is to keep going for it right up to the end.