Lexus RC F: T-Rex On Wheels - Carfection
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- Опубликовано: 29 дек 2016
- The RC F is loud aggressive and not really for this day and age. Much like a T-Rex. But with killer looks, proper V8, noise of the gods... What's not to like?
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Am I the only one who likes this car? I thought it was a bit of a funny looker til I saw a beautiful blue one next to me which took off like a mad man when the traffic in front of us cleared. I love the interior, I like the way it sounds and yes, I LOVE the looks. Polarizing is the best way to describe this car. It may be a lot of things but it's not a mess and it's definitely not ugly. And I would take one after a vacuum cleaner sounding M4 that everybody has any day of the week. I think I also like how hated and thus exclusive this car is too... :D
Nope, you're not the only one! I thought it looked pretty bad when I first saw reviews of it and I bought in to all the criticism. Then I saw one in person on the road and it looked amazing! It was the most aggressive looking Lexus I'd ever seen yet it was still beautiful in a strange way. I have a liking for GT cars and the RC fits my taste perfectly.
NikoBell12 From day 1 I loved this car, and until it gets replaced by a better one, I'll still be in love with it
Agree, i love how dividing this car is on opinions
SickSkids
Always makes me laugh when people say dumb shit like "but it can't turn" lol. The M4 is a disappointment, I mean basically every review says the new Camaro SS is better than it. How embarrassing is that?
NikoBell12 Agreed. I wasn't a fan of the new Lexus till I saw this in person. Looks and sounds great.
I don't live at the Nurburgring, I think it turns just fine. LOL its a GT car and is perfect for that task.
LOL, in this class of vehicles, the C63 is a GT car, the RS5 is a GT car. The RC F is a whale.
ewt415 meh, like I said 99% of the dorks driving any of these cars can't even drive properly.
Gorilla Jones Regardless, an S5 or something would be better suited for those idiots then. For those who know a little about cars, a C63 or RS5 would be the GTs to go for in this segment in my opinion.
ewt415 I know about cars, I own several. A Porsche, a Beemer and a Lexus. The Lexus is the daily driver, but that being said it is the most comfortable for my commutes into NYC. It's not always about lap times. Sometimes it's just comfort. And the Lexus is usually the quietest and most comfortable. Even in a GT this is a good characteristic. My old CLK55 made great noises and wasn't the fastest. It reminds me of this Lexus.
Resale value, it's a toss up right now.
+ewt415 I like whales they are interesting animals
U know what I enjoy the look of this car. All these cars these days are just continuous rehashes of there former selves Lexus has the balls to try something new and I really enjoy how aggressive this looks. The weight however does kill the sportiness but you'll turn heads for sure.
It not that heavy, a c63s is heavier by more than 50 kilos!
Excellent review! I've had the car for about 17 months now, I must say that you nailed the PROs and CONs head on! If one has the money and doesn't require four doors, the RC F is one of the best daily drivers money can buy, in my opinion. It is docile for daily driving, and can get very good gas mileage on the highway for a V8. It is also very practical with a large amount of space for cargo compared to most 2-door coupes, and the two additional seats, while not very practical for transporting adults, come in handy for storing a backpack or a small amount of groceries. Three adults can fit comfortably, but I wouldn't recommend anyone sitting behind the driver's seat unless perhaps they are a small child and can fit easily. However, when the road opens up a bit, the glorious V8 is right there for some fun!
I personally would have liked the dashboard to be different considering the price tag, and the fact that it is supposed to be a special "F" spec. While it is nice, it is pretty much just lifted from the IS line but with a different gauge cluster, which is disappointing. Like you mentioned, the transmission could also be a bit more engaging in Normal mode. Sometimes I will be overtaking cars on the freeway and unless I really push the pedal to the metal, I will be going fast--but without making much sound. That's good for reducing noise pollution, but not good for enjoying a nice V8 engine! While one can always keep it in Sport S/S+ mode, it is not very practical for comfortable daily driving. The ride becomes too harsh, shifts a bit too jarring, and gas mileage goes down too much.
Overall the car is still great and I'm glad I own one! It's a real head-turner with its looks, and since there aren't many out there, it really does feel a bit more special on the road than its competitors (even if they are slightly better in performance on the track). And don't forget that it has the luxury and reliability that Lexus is known for!
This cars interior is significantly more intricate and better put together than anything BMW and or Audi offer. But thank you for correctly pegging this car in between a track and a GT car. It's not meant to compete with an M4 (and I'm sick of people comparing the two). This car would go well in a head to head with an RS5 or base C63 amg coupe. None of those cars will ever see the track but they are damn good fun on good stretches of freeway!
nice to see real dual exhausts.
MrDontask007 *quad exhausts
probably because of all the flack they caught from the ISF lmao...
Man. Wish this would come in a 6 or 7 speed manual transmission.
I really like when this guy reviews.
Hey guys can you guys do a review of the Porsche Panamera 2017? It would be amazing if you would!
really! then ill keep a keen eye out for that! thankyou very much!
Love this Lexus RC-F but I decided to get the new Infiniti Q60 Red Sport 400 (which by the way it horsepower is underrated.) I think the Q60 Red Sports is pushing around 460+ hp.
Can you guys please do a review for the new Infiniti Q60 Red Sport 400?
Thank you again for another great review on cars.
one of the most unique and sexy entries in this segment, you cannot match the sound of that N/A V8 and Lexus's amazing reliability.
justin bouche match? Jesus, really, N/A, jag xk's, Aston vantages, maserati gran tourismo just to name a few.
Heard a rs5 or m4 lately? Angry as fuck. And they're turboed. No, lexus have fallen well short. Pity, Lfa failed to stimulate the opportunities for the f badges potential.
Aston vantages since when are they in the small sized luxury sedan / coupe market, look at the price difference.
Just cause it's N/A doesn't make it good. I'd take a turbocharged C63 AMG over this N/A engine any day. Can't argue Lexus's reliability though.
N/A V8's are increasingly rare these days, unless you have driven one you will not understand how much better the throttle response is and how much easier it is to control revs. turbo's used to be cool, because they were rare... now they are on ever car.
justin bouche I have driven one, and I still stand by what I said. I'd prefer a N/A over a turbocharged engine any day, however, when you have an average N/A V8 vs. a sublime turbocharged V8, I'd take the turbo V8.
LOVE the RCF. Very unique car
Toyota4Life not you again hahaha
Jacob Nilsson lol we meet again
More reliable and none German looking, love it
Wow how spoiled have we become when a car this good is criticized this much? Car manufacturers can't keep up with consumer's ridiculous and unrealistic expectations.
Your presentation style has went way up! Congrats.
The RC F is not a track car. It's a Japanese Pony car. It's a GT car. I love mine. The M4/M3 was a snore.
I love the sharp looks of this. id probably end up going for the 2 series myself though.
nice vid! keep up the good work guys. always looking forward to new video's from your channel.
The 18 models onwards are the ones to get. You can dial in a Custom drive mode (overcoming the issues in this review), the infotainment screen is a lot larger, suspension stiffens/softens depending on drive mode.
One of the things that Carfection reviews seem to fall short on are the parting summations - Too wishy washy. What are the better cars you would consider over this for the price and why?
Similar performance in the previous gen amg c63? If i was after a modern old school luxo v8 that's what I'd be wanting to know.
I love the way it looks, I love the way it sounds, I love the reliability and residual values it holds. if there is one thing I would change, is the focus of this car. either be a gt or a sports car. it's hard to be both. nevertheless, I'd buy it over the m4, rs5. c63 amg would be a much harder choice tho.
Did Carfection do a LFA review? That I would LOVE to see!
This car is a buy in the real world. M4 suspension doesn't work on bad roads and the C63 is well. A money pit
I totally agree with this guy's opinions on this car. I think it looks awesome and sounds awesome.
Plus, the GT500 race car is INSANE!
I love my 2017 RC-F. I know she’s not the quickest V8 out there, but coming from and still owning a 2014 IS250. It was an upgrade for me. I skipped all the 350 models, did not even bother. Life is short. V8 all the way. The GSF was just too much of a boat when I test drove it. That and the price difference pre owned is quite the difference. I don’t need a 4 door when I barely had any passengers even with the IS250. RC-F was a better fit for me. Now the 2019 RCF 10th anniversary would of be nice. The blue interior, man is that sweet.
Very nice!
Great thing about the world is everyone has personal choice and different tastes.
Styling of the RCF is subjective and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I love the different look of this car where others hate it. (The haters might think their wife or girlfriend is beautiful where others may think she is a pig lol!)
I loved the RCF when I recently test drove one back to back with a BMW M4 where as I hated the M4 (and that's coming from a BMW guy).
Also recently test drove the M2 and M6 as I'm looking for something to replace my Z4 35is DCT.
I suggest before anyone dismisses the RCF based on all the media reviews they actually go and drive one.
It's an awesome car.
I had formulated an opinion based on the many so called professional reviews and was set to buy a M4 until I actually drove one. Instead after test driving various car I am now either planning to purchase a 2015 RCF or 2012 M6.
Do those horses ever walk out onto the road during your drives ?
Nice to see you in the New Forest again. 👍🇬🇧🤣 Watch those ponies.
beautiful car
It really can depend on how you grew up. All my life, my dad owned a Buick Grand National which I never realized was so ahead of its time. To me, 6 cylinder turbo isn't new and I'm fully ok with them. We weren't a V8 family. I bought that Grand National and love the sleeper quality it possesses. A V8 isn't everyones ideal layout.
Hi carfection
Love your videos btw......
I'd like to make a request if you wouldn't mind
The Mazda Miata will be an excellent review
I want to like this car, and there are many likable aspects, especially that engine. Still, looks aren't everything, but not nothing either. Overstyled and sort of half baked, and the competition is so strong.
loved the LFA but this looks like an LFA that gave up on life and started eating it's sorrows away
aaaaand Lexus falls short of the competition again
This is how the 2018 Mustang is gonna sound with its new 4.8l Di+Pi V8, its gonna push 457 HP @ 7000 rpm and 520 NM @ 4500 rpm
1900KG? Holy hell, and I thought my Ford Falcon XR6 was heavy at 1700KG.
Joshua Berry then again the Hellcat has ~750hp at crank
The C63 weighs almost the same if not more
There's of course always the American muscle cars that have N/A V8 engines. Such as the Mustang GT which has a 5.0L V8 much like the RCF. Very good video, BTW!
I think of the RC F not as being an M3/C63 competitor, but more of an upscale Mustang GT. Just my opinion
Considering its only slightly behind the M4 and ahead of the RS5 and pre gen C63 it very much so a competitor
Luxury brands (Lexus vs BMW vs MB vs Audi). Same segment: small luxury coupes (RC, Audi 5, BMW 4, MB C). Created under the performance name of each company (RS, M, AMG, F). Yeah, uh, they most definitely are competitors. Quit making excuses for the Lexus
That's a good looking Coupe..I'd like to see one in Dark Gray paint
actually, yeah
The LFA was too much sexiness 😍😍😍 good to call it my dream car
Honestly if I were in this segment, I'd get the previous gen C63 with the 6.2L N/A V8. Its cheaper, and I personally like the looks better
As a current owner of the previous gen C63, I've been contiplating selling it as it's starting to get old & being out of warranty, it is starting to become a money pit. My car is also in the affected range for defective headbolts, meaning when they decide to fail & they will fail without any warning, I'll be looking at around $10k replacement for a used 6.2L. I've really been considering a used RCF to replace it
Henry M. What we do, is we buy cars that still have a little warranty left, and then get the car certified and get an extended 5 year warranty. Weissach has an upgrade kit which would resolve the head bolt issue, and if I were to buy a car like yours, I'd probably upgrade it. Your situation is unfortunate, but pretty much anywhere else you look, the RC F has a bad review. If you're looking for a change, I'd look at the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
A Mercedes-Benz fanboy would look at an Alfa Romeo? Strange, as these two brands are so different in personality (the Germans are way too conservative)...
Samuel Abraham idk why but that gen model design is classic Mercedes. Now everything looks the same.
The C63 is a monster.
AMG C63 has similar weight, yes it has more power, but why people are hung up on the RCF when other cars has similar weights?
Watching this in 2024 as considering buying one now that used prices are very tempting indeed (circa £30-40k). I feel that a lot of the criticisms can be addressed by a sportier exhaust and intake, bigger brakes with more aggressive pads, and some sports suspension.
i like the look of rcf then lc
Where is that road? 😍
Isn't the real reason that the M4 is faster to 60 is because it has way more torque? This car revs high and sounds good, but similar to the old Audi 4.2 it isn't very torquey. You gotta be high in the revs like a Honda.
Torque, shift speeds, weight, yeah
I'm wondering if your impression of the V8 lacking in the lower revs doesn't have something to do with the modified Atkinson cycle it can run. There may be something in the tuning that keeps it in that cycle as long as it can and only unleashes it's full potential when you have it pegged at higher revs. It would have been nice if you'd mentioned this. The modified Atkinson cycle probably kills it's sound too at lower revs. So I would be so bold as to say it's an untouched naturally aspirated V8. It doesn't have turbo's or a flat plane crank or a supercharger, but it's not exactly a T-rex either.
Thats a Transmition/differential problem, it doesnt use the atkinson cycle at full tilt
How much is this car?
almost every journalist called this engine old fashioned but actually I think it's way more modern than its German counter parts. Every always talking about Mercedes' "hot V bla bla" but if you just have a the 2UR's valve operation system, for example, you'll see that it's way more complicated and sophisticated than both the systems from Mercedes and BMW.
This one's a bit of a miss Lexus... The upcoming LC500 looks fantastic though! Looking forward to that one.
bliglum the LC500 is just like Lexus's BMW M4 GTS, costs too much and underpowered, just not worth the money. Get a Mustang or Camaro instead. Both are better than the M4 and RC F.
M I C H Λ Ξ L J U N R
You're just looking at figures. There's more to it than that.. Camaro or Mustang interior quality and comfort will come nowhere near the quality of the LC500's and M4's..
bliglum TELL 'EM. Also, Lexus is the most reliable compared to all of them.
Yabby Gideon
Wait.. Is this Matt Farrah's million mile Lexus?? ; )
I like it
Is the gearbox automatic or DCT?
Automatic, you could tell by the complaints the reviewer made on how slow the gear shifts were even in manual mode
The slogan for Lexus in the late 90s/early 2000s was 'The Relentless Pursuit of Perfection'. What happened to that, concerning the interior of the RC F? Lexus could've did much better with it.
Really? those seats are stunning, and the rest of the interior looks good and similar to other lexus models. like it should
What is naturally aspirated? What are the German cars using now?
No turbos or superchargers. The german cars have smaller engines with turbos. Naturally aspirated engines have better throttle response and better reliability, turbos have more power and more torque, depending on how they're tuned, as well as having more potential for mods.
AdvancedEliteGaming Naturally Aspirated means that the engine doesn't have any mechanics to allow forced air into the engine - an example being that the Ferrari F12 has a naturally aspirated V12 engine because it doesn't have a Turbocharger nor Supercharger. Very basic way of differentiating. I hope this helped! Majority of cars German manufactures use are Turbochargers - easy to make power.
there are no styling. Just random shocking lines, which soon you'll be tired off. That extra weight will push it deep down under ground, where it should be.
Easily the slowest most underwhelming car in terms of performance in anything in its price range. It's damn near a fucking rip off. If you bought this car you got robbed. That v8 is nothing to brag about in a car so slow with a terribad transmission and no manual option & boat-like handling.
LegendInThaMakin, it really is a shame there's not a manual option. I'd like to see one that is tuned, ECM remapped, & throttle response much more sensitive. The problem with it isn't lack of power, it's the way the factory ECM tune holds the power delivery back with electronic throttle lag. There's no reason that a 3850lb Coupe with the over 460HP 5Liter V8 if engine tuned, custom exhaust, & a transmission tune shouldn't be a legit 500Crank Hp 400crank TQ free revving fast car that would shave .5 seconds off of its stock acceleration test times
Jkrui, right on
if you have to rev it, and it's fast if you do, then sure, fantastic car! it's slow, EVEN IF you rev it. Plus you need a fucking aftermarket exhaust to get over 500hp, and it's probably still not as quick around a corner.
Another BMW fanboy, don't forget to call your dealer and see if you're car is ready. LMAO
EJ257IHI Should be ready in an hour they said. Thanks.
id have the hybrid why not you getting a lexus
When it comes to a smooth ride, reliability, and resale value Lexus is far superior to all others.
Feels cheap inside? We must have sat in different cars. It has a really premium interior compared to its competitors.
looks like it ran head long into an ink blot
people have to remember it's not a track cark , these cars are for daily driving. Lexus is coming out with a track rcf
The car is amazing, it's just the weight penalty thats to much, take 100-130kg out of it , and you're beating the m4!
Like the isf and w
I still don't understand why the best part of a car is all covered up. When will a manufacturer do what Alfa did with the 156/164, and make the engine so beautiful that no engine cover is needed.
Did someone else notice that at 2:07 he says «under de hood» and in 3:43 he says «vicious looking bonnet»?...
Jorge Macedo
I mean the lexus rcf is great. But I think that the the coming LC-500 will be a better competitor to the German competitors
Since you did not mention it, we can almost call this fake news... But I will say it for you.. Bottom line is that this Lexus will spend its time on the road where it belongs and not in the shop like the others.. Toyota Reliability. I am not a fan of Toyota, but I do know this about Lexus as compared with its American and German counterparts.
Agreed, I imported one of those old weird V8 Soarer YEARS AGO that I found at a Jap auction for $700 bucks & apart from capacitors fucking up in the digital dash ($2 fix with a soldering iron), it actually had no problems for such an old thing with so much tech for a '92 car - factory height adjust airbag suspension with adjust damping, factory touch screen car with analog phone built in, factory reverse camera, trac control. Air springs prematurely died after 16 years due to my own stupidity of installing a 'height controller' & riding too low, yet a mate who had an S-Class had to replace his after 5 years.
G Rodriguez Do NOT get me started on my Mercedes cars.... I can say this.. Mercedes is not what they were ending in the early 90's.. I will not own another ever again !! I kept buy and buy refusing to believe mercedes turned to shit... And.. I finally gave in.. Its official.. They are shit these days...
grabir01 Mate totally agree again - ironically I actually had a '88 W126 300se before the Soarer (Merc was also an import) & that over-engineered thing was carved from stone, such a beautiful piece of kit - can't say that about the later ones.
G Rodriguez I agree.. If Mercedes were as reliable as a New Ford, I would consider buying another... Heck.. If Mercedes were as reliable as a Toyota, they would dominate the planet !!!
V8 with 6 speed manual transmission That's all I wanted
Sooooo......It's a Japanese mustang...I LIKE IT...
Ain't nothing mustang about this car bruh it's a Lexus not a mustang like smh
Man everyone reviews this car so different..this guy said that the interior is cheap everywhere else they say it's the best part. This guy said the exterior is nice lots say its ugly..wish these review guys get on the same page.
What they should have done is find middle ground between the F Type and the Holden/Chevrolet Lumina.
It needed to be simple
great Car Lexus, but 12 years to late to compete with BMW on performance but not on quality, I had bad experiences with BMW quality from brakes, a/c , suspension, switches and I'm talking about garage kept M3 , M5 , 335i , X5
The GS F is the best car in it's class IMO. Can't say that about the RC F though!
V8 is about to extinct and I couldn't get my own V8 yet ..even if I managed to buy an old V8 car that will be slow death here with our taxes and fuel prices 😧
Goddamn the specs tho. ♡
You complain being comfortable in comfort mode of the car?
I really really love this car!! But, I wish it weighed less than it does
RC-F is a really nice car but Lexus needs to bring back the IS-F
I like the car but when i saw one i thought it was a little dull looking. You know it's going to be reliable but it's a little dull looking.
that car with some mods would be amazing
nice review. don't like the boy racer look to this car.😑😑BMW m3 anyday
"M3 drivers have no friends"
- Jeremy Clarkson
chrisphergroup1 an m3 is the only friend you need
I don't know quite how to say this. I see you as much more of a grown up with the neck jewelry covered. I never really cared till I see you now without it.
Ok, so what's wrong with turbos?
reliability
tavi921 sound
the BMW m4 looks just as aggressive as this RC F and is a better car lol..
Better to d junk yard
Wow. What an absolute eye-turd. I wonder what the designers smoked before creating this thing.
Like every full size American car and muscle car still have v8s
Small engine with turbo charger in big cars = scam, fucking sick of that German trend.
i really like the rcf but not the wheels
“ Worst part interior” said no one ever. Cheap tacky?? Lol.
After the IS-F, I so wanted this car to be good. I even think this car looks good, especially in person. But the way it drives is just a let down. Only thing its got going for it is the Toyota legendary reliability
As he says, "there are much better cars out there."
ewt415 ..he should have named a couple..one or two might be better..but to say there are a lot better is false..after all. .Toyota made the legendary Supra and LFA. .they know a thing or two about making sports cars..Lexus suffers from Euro-bias journalism
TheMuzikall Nothing biased here. I haven't heard so many good things about the RC-F as I've heard from Carfection; they actually LIKE the RC-F, in case you didn't watch the video.
For around $60,000-$70,000? You can get a M4, RS5, C63, ATS-V in the same class of vehicles that are all either better driver's cars, or GT cars - or both - than the RC-F. I won't even bother to mention the other more driver focused cars out there, brand new, for that price!
Lexus should have named this car the RC500 F Sport, then made an actual, lightweight, serious RC-F. If you showed me the RC-F without the Lexus badge, I would have no idea it was from a company who made great cars like the Supra and LFA.
Agreed. I was a huge fan of the RC-F at first but after test driving both the BMW M2 and the RC-F, I felt the RC-F was a huge letdown and I got the M2. Aside from the M2, which is why I got one, I don't really like BMW, so I'd still rather have the RC-F over the M4 though.
Pretty crazy how BMW manages to get an X5 with less power than this to 60 faster. Because it's all about that torque bout that torque, no power.
Yeah, if you have a heavy car, you NEED torque. Bigger displacement or forced induction. If you want a screamer/revver like the RC F to go fast, it NEEDS to be light. Lexus fucked up.
I love my rc f she’s a beast
Nice sponsoring by Nike, Lexus, only nice thing about the car.
Lexus, just do it !
Mate did you listen to yourself or watch this after you've cut it? Even you're saying it's an overly expensive shit. What's the point?
Makes a nice sound if you wring it out and some people don't hate it's ugly mug. Apart from that it's pretty below par. SOLD! What was the point of this review again?
i saw the same corners and scenery countless amounts of times. come on guys, the new forest is massive!
seems like the car was just meh so the video was made with meh too?.
Its old school but you pay the same price as modern cars. Its not even faster. Who will buy this?
Mithun Kalan faster does not mean better
Mithun Kalan if you get a pre owned one for a bargain at 50k and drop 9k for a rr racing supercharger the horsepower bumps up to 670hp.
So it's a muscle car.
viralengine908 it's too slow, ugly, heavy, over priced, and boat like to be like a Mustang GT350R or Camaro ZL1
Except the overpriced part, some would accuse a mustang of being all those things.
viralengine908 mustangs like the $65k Shelby GT350R are faster than an $150k M4 GTS, looks amazing, sounds FANTASTIC, and with the carbon fiber wheels handles and steers better than any car in its weight range, so despite the nice interior, the car still feels super light
so the mustang is none of those things. in fact, the mustang's most common insult is ironically that its so rare that dealers sell them with $20k markups right now
I don't care how good this is as a car, it has some of the worst styling we've seen this decade.
Nikiaf Toyota and Lexus have had some of the worst designs these last 4-5 years =(
Three benefits of this car: 1. Naturally-aspirated V8 2. It's quite rare 3. Reliability
Everything else is a downside. Looks are subjective, let's leave that aside. But. It's slower than any rival. It doesn't sound much better than the new C63 Coupe. It doesn't handle near as well as the M4 does. The infotainment system and that array of buttons look and feel cheap and also are a pain to use. It's less luxurious inside than a C63. It's heavy af. It has no manual option like the m4 and the auto is sh!t. It's not much cheaper than competitors either. And so on and on and on...
Too many downsides to justify a purchase. If you want a naturally aspirated V8 get a used RS5 for half the price or previous gen 6.2L C63 or E92 M3. Or a new 5.0 Ford Mustang.
Jay h there is too much risk involved developing niche cars like the RC F. It's much easier to build another SUV (like the relatively recent NX) which will be profitable for sure.
Japanese manufacturers are not what they used to be 10 or 15 years ago. They make reliable and affordable saloon cars and SUVs but that about it. If you want premium or sportscar unfortunately there is nothing Japanese manufacturers can offer anymore
Its the M4's closest rival though, and faster than Both the C63(previous gen) and RS5 around a track.
Also more comfortable than the M4 if you trust any reviews.
The new C63 is 2 years newer and not its aiming competitor.
The car does have downsides, and is not as good as it COULD have been, but its not shit. not nearly.
what happened to the shitty necklace buddy?? haha