Lexus RC F Review: The Evil M4 Challenger ft. Engineering Explained
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The Lexus RC F is a car that says hell no to downsizing and hell yes to mad styling and addictive V8 noise. It's for these reasons that you simply must see this car in action!
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I rather have this over the new M4 or C63 without thinking twice, I don't care if your turbocharged engine makes more torque or if your Benz/BMW is half of a second faster on the 0-60, I won't drive 10/10 and most people won't too. I want the natural V8 noise and the experience, I want a car that's different from the others, I want something that feels special. Thanks Lexus for hearing the least.
Did you read my mind? I can't agree more.
They’re so rare, too! You never see rcf as much as you see the other guys ! So when you do see and rcf-it’s very special !
I love how torque didn't matter with the e92 M3, which didn't even have 300 lb/ft but now that the m4 has a lot its sacrilege to not have a ton of low end torque.
It's possible that it may be a bit more pronounced on the RCF, if it's having to change between Atkinson to Otto once you stomp on the gas, especially if at lower RPM. I think it's cool tech though, you're not always racing (maybe?) so why not save some fuel on your road trip.
You could forgive what it lacked in torque for what it made up in redline.
You know why it matters now for this car ? Because by today's standard everything is not enough. The weight is not down enough, the power is not enough (RS5 has same power figures, and it's a bit of an "old" car ), it doesn't rev (the M4 revs higher, come on) and the whole car is not fast enough in my opinion.
It should have been like 500hp like the C63 507, or turbo like the new C63, the RS4, and the M3/M4.
The M4 is eating it, and the new C63 AMG Coupe will eat it aswell (let's not even talk about the S).
Kaisuke971 we are leaving in a society (whole world?) of "never is enough"! directly related to the "mass consumption" shit of living in "modern" society... :-S P.S: Iwould LOVE to see M3 CSL as Sport again in some posible future... :-D
Ivan Nosic I don't know why but even if i love those F Lexus, they feel wrong. Look at that exhaust on the IS F. It was completely fake ! And that's wrong !
And now the RC F wants to value it's NA V8 but it forgot how to rev ! And how to power ! This thing almost forgot how to engine, come on !
M2 is the new M3, basically, like the 1M was. Maybe we'll see something like an M2 CSL, because some people have spy shot a strange M2 prototype, which seems to be a bit more focused.
Btw the M4 "GTS" or whatever it will be called will come for sure.
I was just chatting with my friend (who's looking at buying one of these) when I realized oh shoot, I'm in a video review of it that was just posted! I think you hit many of his concerns, the gearbox being the biggest one. Great review!
You do realize that the driver was in the wrong gear in manual mode at 55mph, it was his fault he was that far up anyway. If he's putting around at 55, might as well set it to automatic mode, it will downshift way faster if he's trying to pass a bus. Manual mode is awesome if you know when and how to use it. The automatic mode is awesome for the same reasons. TVD was not even mentioned, it makes the car feel like a mid-engine in turns..
John Smith They just made a not real senior so they can say bad thing about it, and in reality AUTOMATIC will shift in less than 150 millisecond
Yup. When I punch it on the highway and im at 80mph already it drops to 3rd to wind up impressively. Im at 150 b4 you know it with 2 more gears to go :) #8gears. Love it
why didn't you tell him it's not the same engine as the is f.
rcf > m4
due to the v8 and more reliable technology.
Ya ok
Lmao using an old engine is a more reliable technology, I would rather be in my TT I6 thank you very much.
using an Inline sic engine with two turbos is a good tehcnology or what? For me, it´s not, for sure.
TheCarista *coughcough* Nissan GT-R? Twin-turbo V6, mate.
ll thats a different story bro :D just do some researches to the unreliable new bmw´s.
I heard him say Atkinson cycle and I was like oh Engineering Explained did a video on that but I forgot how it works. Then he's like here's Engineering Explained and I was like YES!
It was all for you Dylan!
Engineering Explained I'm blushing right now 😄 lol jk
Engineering Explained i followed the explanation pretty well...the left bank has 4 cylinders named otto and the right bank has 5 cylinders named atkinson!?!
The ISF was a rare car in the UK, so I'd buy a RCF over the M4 because M4s will be everywhere soon, so to stand out RCF please
only 206 ISFs left in UK - so glad I managed to get one....
I am literally visiting a Lexus dealer as soon as possible.
Really great to see that CT unite all those car-related youtubers : AMA on the website with MCM, ThatDudeInBlue... ; some youtubers have an account on CT like Shmee and now a CT review featuring Engineering Explained !
Car enthusiasts all-over the world : let's unite !
All hail CT!
more comfortable and even handles corners quicker than an m4, sounds like the perfect driver for california roads
And will be wayyyyy more reliable.
@@diegocastro8772 Toyota / Lexus reliability is unmatched ! You are right my bro
Love that you have cooperate with Engineering Explained! Great video :)
Love these collaboration and special guests
Yeah, I'll take it for a test drive...
... in Forza Horizon 2 because no one's gonna trust a young adult with an RC-F.
Same here, although I shouldn't complain since I'm allowed to drive my dad's F355 Berlinetta in the weekends!
Thijs Messemaeckers hard to believe someone who watches minecraft and forza videos.....
I'm allowed to drive my Lamborghini whenever I want
...in Forza
Thijs Messemaeckers well ,didnt know your father plays vedio games too !
Josh Tib same with my p1...
In forza
Great video Alex, gotta love the RCF!
The only let down for me is its weight, over 200kg more than an M4...
Btw, the technical part by EE really adds value to this video, nice to see you guys partnering up with Jason!
That Engine sound + the induction note....a must have...
Great video, and what a nice car!
I liked that you featured Engineering Explained!
Better than how Jeremy explained it in top gear honestly. The rc f isn't that bad. I get how "oh the m3/m4 is better it's faster it has more torque it looks better etc." but like to me, the bmw lost its charm for some reason. Yeah the straight 6 is bang on but idk to me it's just not the same anymore. The E46 was good too but with the new M3/M4, it's just different somehow. I saw someone said the bmw is overrated and honestly I agree with that
Wow!!! very nice to see you here Engineering Explained !I am studying automotive engineering here in spain and i love your videos. good job!
First exciting car? Did you forget about the ISF?
No, he even mentioned it in the video
MindTheGap He does later on but his initial statement was what I was referring to.
He said first exciting since 2012, and the IS-F was made before that.
SIMcityplayer2002 Hmm that makes more sense
If you hold the downshift paddle, it will downshift from 8th to 5th. I don't have issues downshifting quickly in my ISF.
Love the review, best review of this car so far,
These collaborations are awesome!
Nice team up with engineering explained. And another great review , they are getting better not that they weren't good in the first place lol!!!!
Love the car review by Car Throttle , love how the Otto-Atkinson cycle explained by Engineering Explained , it's well explained and easy to understand the explaination, even for non-engineering college student like me.
Just, if the subtitle can be better, because it's written as "auto" when it supposed to be "otto". Anyway, Good car, good review, good explanation. Greetings from Indonesia
Such a happy surprise with Engineering Explained appearing!
Great review Alex. When I first saw the RC F I didn't really like the styling, but since then it has grown on me. It's great that the M4 has another competitor.
great review and awesome car! cheers
The main difference is one will last 800,000 miles across 15 years, and the other will last 50,000 across 5 years.
*One will be in Scotty's driveway, and the other one will be in Scotty's shop!!!*
BMWs, endless money pits!!!
This video helped my dad buy one. Thanks for the good review
Brilliant review
Nice one Alex.
Loved that transition.
The biggest difference between Top Gear and Car Throttle is Car Throttle has basically nothing negative to say about a car, ever. Because the Top Gear boys have driven sooo many awesome cars they are willing to point out weaknesses, but for guys like Alex here, driving these wildly expensive and fast cars is still a fairly new thing, so he thinks and says they're all amazing.
Alex, great review brotha.
Cheers bro :)
I think you compare unequal things here... Turbo vs NA? Always the NA will have less torque low down...
I like the collab!! Thought of airing on the motor tend channel yet? Engineering Explained
this collaboration with Engineering Explained is absolutely awesome..
Glad you liked it!
hey guys what do yall think is better an older maserati coupe, or a newer ford mustang
What are your thought on this vs the Audi RS5
Stunning car. Bravo Lexus.
Looking stunning inside and out and sounds like a true beast.
Those magical first minutes when there are no dislikes!
Mwahahahaha *evil grin*
Frontality Changed to a like after watching the Engineering Explained part, he's one of my favourite youtubers.
Right now its 450 likes, 6 dislikes, that's quite good as well...
I love your videos and a watch every one of them im from uruguay and i speak spanish
And could you do something about old minis because i have one and they are great
Thanks
Love it!
Engineering Explained god you lose me every time you talk, but you're so knowledgeable. Applause! I wish I could understand everything that you do :) Keep up the great work! :D
The BMW M cars are way overrated now, I would pick any other car over a M4 or a M5. I like the odd-one-out cars that are more uncommon like the RC F.
Bmws in general are overrated.
MrTheHillfolk true
I lived my e92 if you ever get the chance take one to redline.
What makes them overrated exactly? The fact that they constantly beat the rest of their competitors or that BMWs aren't designed by someone who should never touch a pencil?
The BMW M4 is 400Kg lighter than the RC F and has more power, yet the M4 is only a few seconds quicker, and also the interior and exterior is way better. Most BMW's look similar with different body types.
I can't wait to buy this car...
Once I have 75 grand.
It starts at 64k mate
Why did they stop producing the LFA?
I had the great pleasure of owning one of these in pearl white with red interior.
I have to say it was my dream car then and it still is now.
Just had a change of income and had a baby on the way.
Now im in a Lexus RX.
Want to get back into 1 of these as quickly as possible. Oh and i had it for a steal at £24995.
Yes, that particular Lexus is the same exact one that Jeremy criticised. It was red, and it has the same exact licence plate. GY64 VCC
Dear editor I was wondering what kind of car are you currently driving. Thanks!
Good review! This car seems like a good alternative to the Germans, and will be more exclusive which is one plus point. The N/A V8 is a really great engine, and a beautiful interior bar the slightly cheap centre console. Exterior wise this is a car you'd have to see in the flesh to really decide whether you like or not, personally I think the old IS-F was and still is a fantastic looking car.
good sound
Thanks he makes more sense than my thermodynamic lecturer ;)
This car have all for triumph: Nice and diferent design ,a great handling and perfomances able to stand up to Ferrari and Porsche :)
What would be a better buy? Lexus RC - F or audi Rs5. Both are v8 and sound amazing
Picking between these two is like picking between waffles and pancakes...you may have your favorite, but come on, is there really any going wrong? BMW M4 = Lexus RC-F
There is no going wrong. They're both great and which you buy is all down to personal preference, glad to see someone else who understand.
SurprisePenguin no picking between m4 and rc f is like picking great food and average food.
No, LEXUS RC-F > BMW m whatever. Now that looks right.
what about torque? how much ?
Dat limiter!! So awsome
Nice car!
As far as I know, the ZF 8 speed is well and capable to shift from the 8th gear to 2nd gear as easy as switching from 8th to 7th.. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that the 8 speed ZF can change between any gears in under a second.
I have driven a 428i with automatic transmission and I've seen it skip a few gears while in sport+.
Engineering explained should pop up on all videos where complex explanations are required
5 seconds from 8th to 3th? Can't you hold the steering mounted pedal and it should shit immediately to lowest possible? That's how it works on all BMWs now
What about the new Mazda MX-5 2016
Woo! Jason.
Why are people saying this car "forgot how to rev"? it goes up to 7,300... in a V8.... a lot of V6's only do 6,800 - 7,500 depending on which engine and a lot of the other V8's didn't hit 7,000. I think this would make a great every day road car. Not everyone goes to their track with their daily driver so I can imagine this is probably up there with the others in that respect. The only place this falls short is if you were to take it to track and maybe (and I suppose this is a matter of opinion) the over use of plastics in the cabin. I think it's a great alternative, yes maybe they need to cut 200kg's or lb's or whatever but not everyone is trying to be Lotus lol!
Great car!
Engineering Explained reminds me of Ross from Friends :0)
Nice!
that lfa sound, fucking ORGASMIC!!!
Humm Cris Harris review was a little different, he likes this car better as a street car than a track weapon. Anyway is does sound terrific.
I love this channle
The new Yaris also has the same tech to change from Atkinson to Otto cycle
Also this was by far the best review you guys ever did. You should do this crossover stuff more often!
ohh my god, I love that car so much
I think the M4 looks better (inside and out). It also has more torque, a better gearbox and a superior chassis.
I can tell by your profile picture
Well I think the RC-F looks better (inside and out). It has a better sound, better reliability, better build quality - oh and its not a BMW
Not to mention the option of a manual gearbox for those who want it.
Rayaan Shaikh At least somebody gets it. Thank you sir.
and yet in two tests, nearly the same laptimes as RCF despite being 400# lighter. Then the RCF doesnt sound like a dirt bike
how can you change from Otto cycle to Atkinson cycle while driving the car??
and why would someone care about fuel efficiency in a car like that??
I mean you just cant get too much mpg's from a 5 liter v8 can you??
question for engineering explained
Well, I know some (if not all) models of the C7 corvette have cylinder deactivation which allows for almost 30mpg. And that's a big Murican V8!
As for the cycles switch, it's probably some high tech computer wizardry from another dimension. Lexus must have sent Jason Statham, Jet Li, and Matt Damon to get the blueprints from a futuristic military compound in the year 2057. That's why it's 60,000 pounds. I can't think of any other reason why it would be.
is that 5.0L v8 flatplane crankshaft or crossplane crankshaft?
It's a crossplane crank
CerraKG oh, then, round of applause for lexus engineer for trying to make it rev high. They did a good job.
In these exhaust display attempts why don't they give it a give 1 second bounce off the rev limiter? You know that's what really opens eyes...
I work in a lexus dealership and alot of young kids like in they're early to mid 20's test drive the rcf but they never end up buying lol
The "Arsey Eff'?
Dat redline in the first burnout cheeses christ
What does an American v8 muscle car have to do with this?
Since i got test drive with lexus , in my opinion best car
Meanwhile a bunch of us are still waiting for Japan to bring back affordable turbo sports cars...
Hmm...like the V8, like the power..but the styling? Not so sure.
I appreciate what Lexus is doing and it's what Audi should do with their upcoming line up, if BMW and Mercedes went soft and gave up on the V8 that people loved it's the perfect time to put a V8 on their car and try to pick up some Mercedes and BMW consumers from the M4 and C63.
These companies needs CEOs with more balls honestly.
Um the new C63 has an all new bi turbo 4.0L V8...
The only thing I don't like about that car are the headlights, and I really don't like them. Otherwise it's a really cool looking and nice sounding car.
Finally someone who shares my view on Lexus interiors!! Nice seats here, steering wheel and center console though. Ewww.
Engineering Explained 👍
I wish it was quicker than my ISF...that would help rationalize buying one :)
Last of the N/A v8 in this segment
Auto manufactures need to either put in a really great automatic or have an option for a manual. I bet a stickshift would eliminate any gripes with this car (except for the weird face and cheap looking center console)
I would take a Lexus! The reason why I would take it because its good ass reliability! My moms friend have '94 Lexus LS and it has 847k Miles and still running like a champ! It may have its battle scars and paint worn off lol but that shit don't give up!
I understand that reliability is a priority but is anybody going to take it to such an extreme like that? Only in very rare cases. If you can afford a 60k msrp car (Likely 75+ with options) you can afford to buy a new car and maintain it before getting to anywhere near 800k miles let alone 200k. When it comes down to it Id most likely buy the BMW for the better looks, better handling feel, and the better transmission. Its all opinion though and dependent on what you prioritize in your car.
I own both and u definitely prefer my m4 over the rcf
Changing the timing on a valve equals a brand new cycle with new name???
Bring the manuals!!! Damn Toyota/Lexus offer some at the least!
Germany or japan.. Hmm. Love you, from italy.
If I had to choose between this and the M4 I would take this hands down. I can't stand that fake noise that M4 makes. I could not live with that easy solution
Weight is also up.
THIS CAR IS A BEAST!
MAKE MORE SLEEPER VIDEOS!!!
Better than the equivalent AMG ? That's a bold statement.
It's possible lexus build a car could rival the M6/6-Series ?