Transformers is weird.
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Wheeljack turns to Slicer turns to Sideswipe turns to Wheeljack turns to Slicer turns to Sideswipe turns to Wheeljack turns to Slicer turns to Sideswipe turns to Wheeljack turns to Slicer turns to Sideswipe turns to Wheeljack turns to Slicer turns to Sideswipe and also Downshift is in there somewhere I think
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As a wheeljack fanboy this video just makes me realize how confusing repaints can make newer fans and people outside the brand lol
Unless they are seekers
@@rsdillbot3646 even then to someone who has never seen or heard of transformers it can be confusing aspesuley in Hasbros WE NEED TO KEEP THE TRADEMARK JUST SLAP THE NAME ON ANYONE phase they went through
tell me about it, i'm a fan of the franchise and i'm still confused
It doenst sound all that confusing to me
But I'm a Fan so thats probably why
Bruh, I bout lost it when downshift starting rising onto the screen.
If I remember correctly they Used Downshift and Wheeljack’s or Cliffjumper’s name fluidly between them.
It gets better, the english dub of Transformers Energon inexplicably switched Cliffjumper and Downshift's names around for most of the series. More often than not, the Wheeljack lookalike would end up being called Cliffjumper despite the toy's name being Downshift. It also seemed as if the two characters randomly switched voice actors from episode to episode.
Plus the Japanese version actually called that guy Wheeljack despite being set in the same continuity as Armada Wheeljack (The Sideswipe lookalike), Armada Wheeljack's name there is Rampage so that adds another layer of confusion to the whole thing.
Oh my GOD that is insane
I kinda wish I'd known about that ahead of time so I could've included it in the video, but that would make it even MORE confusing than it already is
Yeah, difference in Hasbro and Takara names of characters before brand unification is a whole different layer of nonsense
Ok just so were clear and on the same page so the sideswipe looking wheeljack in armarda is called Rampage in the Original Japanese version Micron Legend?
@@cyberfire7191 Yes
@@Wixhael please remake the video to include this so its an even more confusing one lmaoooo
My favorite part about the original SG Wheeljack and Action Master Slicer is a simple fact.
They in fact had close communication with eachother.
They swapped places and plotted together regularly.
They loved fucking with people in this exact way.
The violin in the background is nice, but it should have been the homelander violin. Would have fit this theme more.
Yeah, true! Dang, I kinda wish I'd thought of that!
Shut up
Why the hell is there a man In a blue and red suit smiling at me 😳
Funnily enough, Armada Sideswipe was supposed to be named Nightbeat but there was a mixup during production. Had he had the proper name, Armada Wheeljack likely would've been called Sideswipe
As a transformer and mtg fan (who is mostly focused on current releases) I've gotta say that being told a game I've never heard of featured such a protected ip, then being shown a magic card is like my brain tripping over its own feet then falling down the stairs. Thanks lmao
Uh, you know brothers war is the next standard set, right?
@@raonair I had heard the name but the way the video presented it meant it didn't really click. Besides, it's hard to remember or be bothered to find out the name of a set you dont care about when you spend your mtg energy just keeping up with the 40k stuff and occasionally browsing singles in the local card shop.
Wait till you hear about the Grimlock card that came out a few years ago
@@nightmarepenguin2370 I'm the opposite, I distance myself from the 40K stuff as much as I could
@@raonair ah, I have too many hobbies so getting obsessed with a crossover was frankly inevitable for me lol.
Compared to starscream... wheeljack has it neck and neck for having a identity crisis
Nah. That’d be G1 Nightstick.
I think Wheeljack is a pretty cool guy, transforms into a cassette player and doesn't afraid of anything.
And his power is maximum
You wanna know the best part. SG slicer in the new idw universe is a good guy despite being identical to his action master counterpart. What’s worse is that this new slicer was supposed to be a new SG wheeljack but one of the designers wanted to pander to his nostalgia and in doing so has completely broken the lore.
Which may just be a fake undercover identity for Wheeljack.
The SG toys are done both ways: Ultra Magnus doubles as G1 Delta Magnus.
Also shattered glass flamewar is literaly just regular flamewar, despite the fact that there is no figure of regular flamewar, it just has a different colour symbol. Why is it shattered glass? Who the fuck knows
@@chunky_kit-kat1343 Because the designer sees her as SG arcee despite there already being a SG arcee that looks nothing like her, and even if flamewar was arcee she’s still a good guy in the new idw SG universe that is a decepticon 😂. This designer that I’m speaking about does have talent but the way he chooses to use them is just baffling.
i just assumed slicer was a codename or something, him being wheeljack is the only thing that makes sense conceptually
@@thearisen13 And everyone knows Flamewar has her own character
Actually that Energon fellow's name is cliffjumper. His yellow dunebuggy best friend is downshift.
In the US version, it is reversed...cliffjumper is the dune buggy
Ah yes, action master. Transformers that do NOT transform
At this rate, the inanities are just kinda par for the course at this rate;
not sure if they're either doing this crap on purpose or the people doing these things are being told to NOT look at TFWiki akin to Dan DiDio (yes, THAT Dan DiDio) telling Bob Skir to ignore Beast Wars when making Beast Machines or whatever the heck is going on, but at least the Armada Wheeljack palette looks pretty good on the G1 Wheeljack base; but if that's not a redeco for standard retail, I might be a little disappointed ngl
Ugh. If I were Bob, I’d ignore Dan.
Ignore beast wars? I only saw beast machines, and that could explain how weird the show was.
I think after the heavy panting I was expecting the Dark of the Moon wheel jack then a “SCP Femur Breaker” scream
Bro just do more of these transformer wildcards these are hilariously true 😂
Believe me, I'm definitely tempted to!
Hey glad you made this vid as Im a magic player who got very confused by Slicer's inclusion in brothers war.
Brother's War is actually an upcoming expansion for magic the gathering. WOTC and hasbro chose this set to also debut transformers cards as bonus pulls in the booster packs.
I assume that's why they killed the Transformers TCG. And Netrunner probably died for the cyberpunk Kamigawa set.
@@alexholker1309 Never heard rumors about netrunner making a modern return so I cannot comment on that.
The transformers TCG failed because it was undermarketed (probably thanks to mtg taking marketing precedent) and the design team ignored the feedback they did get. The gameplay design while fun to play didnt work with how people sleeved their paper cards from other games. Plus no local game stores pushing a tcg = no tcg.
Actually Wheeljack was not supposed to look like sideswipe. The head looking like sideswipe was a complete surprised to the hasbro staff and was done solely by takara.
energon cliffjumper : ay mate yo forgot me
It actually gets worse... That Energon toy shown at the end couldn't be called Wheeljack because he's a completely different character from Armada who looks like Sideswipe so the TOY of the Energon character who SHOULD be Wheeljack was called Downshift. However in the poorly dubbed cartoon the same character who was suppose to be Wheeljack but renamed Downshift was also renamed in the show to Cliffjumper. The character who was suppose to be Energon Cliffjumper according to the toy line is actually called Downshift in the cartoon. That's right it's basically another situation like Rumble and Frenzy from G1 where the characters have completely different names depending on if you're talking about the toy line or the cartoon series.
BTW There's actually a comic where they address the fact that SG Wheeljack has Slicer's colors by essentially making it so they're the same character. SG Wheeljack who is an evil Autobot joined the Decepticons of the main universe where there is already a Wheeljack and rather than having to explain being from a different universe he just changed his faction insignia from SG Autobot to main universe Decepticons and told the Decepticons his name was Slicer. The only other bots who know he's a Wheeljack are actually from the SG universe.
It also gets even more confusing when you get to Dark of the Moon and realize that Que was at one point in early drafts of the script going to be a Headmaster which is why Brains looks so much like him with the same sort of hair and his name was going to be Wheeljack. For some reason though even though he was only ever called Que in the final version of the movie fans still insist on calling him Wheeljack despite the fact he looks nothing like the character and was never officially called that anywhere in the movie or toy line. There was also a canceled toy of Que with a more G1 style head that would have been called Wheeljack and the only reason we know it even exists is because Que's instructions show the toy with a different head than the more movie accurate design we actually got which also lead to fans calling him Wheeljack again despite the fact that figure was never officially released and his name was only ever officially listed as Que.
Transformers Cyberverse also had an episode were a character using Wheeljack's animation model appeared but doesn't seem to be aligned to any faction, was infected with Cosmic Rust, and never really given a name but seems to be based on Slicer. They bother naming who this character since he shows up just to die. Cosmic Rust spreads like a virus in this series so after he came through the space to Velocitron he basically unknowingly destroys the entire planet. Though confusingly given how fast it spread it's weird that he survived long enough to make it through a Space Bridge in the first place.
My head...
i....wow...i...i'm just gonna ask, what comic is that?
@@ironmaster6496 I couldnt find anything about it
But there is a Comic where Shattered Glass Wheeljack tricks "Normalverse" Slicer into thinking he is Slicer from a different Universe
And also another Comic where Shattered Glass Wheeljack uses Slicer as a code-name or something like that
I love the unhinged energy that this video puts out.
I don't know if it was intentional but you calling Mag the gathering by the set name "brothers war" like it's a random unknown card game while at the same time losing your mind over trasformers, was really funny, thanks for that
He’s not even the most confusing example of a name getting swapped and traded for another name. Nightstick anyone?
To be honest I think the cards and the figure should have been the other way around. The color scheme for the current "shattered glass slicer" should have been used for the normal Universe slicer and the Armada wheeljack colors should have been used for shattered glass slicer. Cuz now they're changing a pre-existing character.
Ooh, I really like that idea! Having Shattered Glass Slicer being a separate character from Wheeljack that uses the Armada color scheme absolutely rules.
And have shattered glass Wheeljack use that regular universe Slicer color scheme but just call him Wheeljack. I don't know why they gave him the Slicer name when it's supposed to be Wheeljack.
2:02 not going to lie that design and colors are cool,
it looks like wheeljack with other paint
As soon as I saw those cards the other days, I knew things were only going to get MORE confusing than they were since the SG Slicer was revealed. Thank goodness for Toyhax SG symbol stickers (which reminds me, I need to order some for my 2nd SG Magnus/Delta Magnus).
yeah, my favorite transformers character is, uhhh…. [looks at smudged writing on hand]
I found myself laughing harder and harder as the video went on lmao, the fact that it ended with what was essentially my first autobot (2nd tf ever) was the cherry on top lol
I missed when SG Wheeljack and Slicer were two distinct yet identical entities that took advantage of their similarities to troll each other
Roosterteeth RvB boys:"...... wait, what?"
Geoff: "I am so glad we never did the X-Men."
Ahh yes reuse of molds to have more characters and using a name of an existing character for a new character that doesn't look like the previous version. Transformers is indeed a beautifully well done toy marketing strategy.
Ahh transformers, the only franchise where it can shamelessly re release the same toys it already released but with different colours, a doubled price tag and a new name
My buddy is really into MTG and I'm really into transformers. He has the slicer commander deck and I was trying to explain all the history of slicer and why this card is so weird and I'm just gonna send him this video. Great job!
Slicer is slowly turning into a mind bending god of physics
That's kinda the thing i like about transformers.
Someone threw a wheeljack to the writer and forgot so many things in the lore
I have been a Wheeljack fan since I were 7, Armada was my first exposure to TF and years later at 28 I now play Wheeljack in a stop Motion series called Transformers: EarthFall. Yes, his name is Downshift, also you missed Downshift from Cybertron
Thank you for the fun, and condensed, video about Wheeljack that I will now randomly send to my friends at 02:44 on Tuesdays every two weeks.
I only know about slicer because of Magic: The Gathering. He’s one of my favorite cards in the Commanded format
I'm wondering now if the shows or comics have ever made any meta jokes on character repaints and name changing. I recall some things like when Armada smokescreen renamed himself hoist after an upgrade, or Trailbreaker changing his name to trailcutter, but i'd love to see commentary that reaches THIS level of confusion between repaints, renames, and retools. xD
Hasbro loves thier repaints 😂
The worst part about Slicer in MtG is that his non-Shattered Glass universe card having Armada Wheeljack's colors is that it's completely unnecessary because another character who was in the recent Shattered Glass line; Flamewar, also has cards, but both her SG and normal cards look the exact same.
They created a problem that didn't need to be there.
As someone who hasn't been a transformers fan since I was a kid and just clicked onto this video out of curiosity, I say, "what the hell?"
I showed my Transformers friend the new Magic the Gathering cards from The Brothers War set yesterday and he sends me this at 3 in the morning.
I'm surprised this video didn't even mention the bounty hunter _Exhaust_ . A Wheeljack repaint with a different head just to add more confusion
Make part 2 going into downshift and other names depends in the county and reusing of names in Transformers
And that’s just Wheeljack that we’re talking about.
I LITERALLY just did this same rant to one of my friends when he showed me the card designs!!!!
At least in Japan the Armada guys have their names correct, so all this mess is Hasbro's fault, like always
No, Armada Wheeljack is called "Rampage" in Japan
As a Wheeljack fan I totally didn't notice that the Autobot Slicer in the Magic the Gathering card was colored after Armada Wheeljack that's fucking great. Even more so because Armada Wheeljack is a Decepticon.
I did expect headache, but never in my live did I expect this much of it
Thank you for the perfect video to show people why transformers go brrr
This. This video has made my day and earned you a subscriber. Thank you, sir.
And we're just... ignoring that Transformers we're on Magic the Gathering cards?
Beutiful editing!
Thanks! I really appreciate it!
Great video! Very entertaining. PerspectiveEnd sent me!
yo the perspective dude that guys great
Exausth: allow me to introduce me myself
Maybe slicer is wheeljack in disguise of a decepticon
welcome to the tflife for those newbies who only focused on either g1 or the movies since we also got weird sh*t these days
A card game named "the brothers war" lmao
You think HE’S BAD? Well *OH BOY* you are… completely right, god damn
Even though i've been a transformers fan since i was 7 i never got into collecting the toys. *This is why*
Wheeljack, pointing at a random human "Why is that guy also called Spike? He looks nothing like the Spike we know! And why is Spike's son called Daniel if he looks just like Spike? What the hell, Earth?"
And now there’s the *new* wheeljack that looks like Urkel lmao
What a god damn bumblejump. I mean clusterfuck!
What about Exhaust eh? He’s also part of the Wheeljack family. He’s head is different because he has a visor on his face but overall, his entire body is the exact same.
This is why I love transformers
Teacher: "the test is very simple."
The test:
Let's not forget that Transformers Prime Wheeljack, is named Wheeljack and looks like him but acts like a completely different character and uses the same weapons as him, aka Drift who came out before Prime Wheeljack.
Transformers name reuses can get quite confusing
I can’t even begin to fathom
Wheeljack is my favorite in general, I wish in other TF series just name Wheeljack, Wheeljack it's that simple, G1 version of Wheeljack is my favorite version
and on top of all that theres a repaint of Prime Wheeljack where hes infused with Dark Energon but it's based off of Slicer
The perfect transformers video doesn't exi-
😂😂😂
Best video
imagine this came out when the rotb design was revealed
Let's not talk about Que from Transformers dark of the moon
This is fantastic
And yet somehow all I can think of is why was muscle headed katana bro from Prime called Wheeljack when he should have been Drift!
This has earned you a sub
Thank you!
Energon and Cybertron Downshift isn't helping, obviously
I love wheeljack :)
And the saga continues
I can’t wait for the twist in ROTB that everyone is Wheeljack
We need a part 2 of this
Me who watched only prime 2011 version that looked like anime and g1 and newer seen welljack whitput of bombs and swords
Wheeljack = Scientist
Slicer = Genocide Killer
Wheeljack = Evilgood doer
Let’s just confirm that slicer with unicron trilogy ( armada portion ) is sg slicer and non sg slicer with sg wheeljacks colors is the default slicer
You forgot that Takara made another Diaclone Stratos in the 80s using the Marlboro livery and a new head
That one eventualy became the Decepticon Exhaust
Despite the diferent head, he appeared in WFC with the same head as Wheeljack
Even his toy has the original Exhaust head
Yeah, transformers does that. You get used to it after a while
And with this kind of bullshit, my hopes for a armada wheeljack/ SG sideswipe based on the siege mold finish like a DJD victim.
Wheeljackass moment.
This is a work of art.
You forgot Rampage which was Armada Wheeljack’s name in Japan.
remember the dark of the moon movie they named him que that now looks like einstein then now in rise of the beast hes gona be orange van
and then the fans start to cry because bumblebee's blitzwing is not the triplechanger blitzwing . . .
THATS ME!!!!! IM IN THE VIDEO YAAAAAYYY!
And then DotM Que was supposed to be Wheeljack...
*insert brothers war is mtg exspansion*
Gud vid tho basicly transformers characters in a nutshell. I think it would be a good idea to make a comment correcting your mistake to satisfy all the angry people. I would love more videos like this.
I just realized that the clear red weapons that come with SG Slicer are ripped from Downshift.
I don’t know what’s real anymore man
And the Wizards guys said they got to "design a G1 Slicer"
Yeah. Whatever.
Downshift! Yeah!