German Metabo Grinders are Ridiculous, vs M18, DeWALT, Ryobi & Kobalt
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2023
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Does German made mean extra performance to go with your extra dollars? Today we find out by testing the new Metabo WVPB 18 LT BL 11-125 Quick Angle Grinder against known values like Milwaukee & DeWalt as well as new entries to the channel in the Kobalt KAG 424B-03 & Ryobi PBLAG01.
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makita test ?
Could you please test metabo tools with the 10 Amp battery and also show the difference between the LI-HD and Li-Power?
Those newer LI-HD are ridiculously expensive, but they also claiming that they are about 65%better...
Can we get the Flex Angle Grinder comparison please? Thanks TTC!
i thing a test of a festool ginder can be interresting.
Also remember that metabo Germany is part of the cordless tool alliance or CAS where they’re batteries are interchangeable with many different manufacturers
didnt know that was a thing...about time
@@T0tenkampf Bosch has also started such an alliance (Power for all Alliance) a few years ago.
What brands are included there then?
Fein, stupidly, went with Bosch batteries.
CAS has many top tier and narrowly specialized manufacturers like Mafell, Lamello, Eibenstock etc.
If they are 18v which they pretty much all seem to be, cheap adapters exist to fit e.g. bosch batteries on makita tools and vice versa
2 Things about the battery of the Metabo: 1. The CAS on the battery stands for "Cordless Alliance System" meaning that they cooperate with other tool manufacturers (currently 36) and have their batteries interchangeable. 2. There are 10Ah Metabo CAS batteries on the german market.
they are really expensive 285€ just for a battery....
The thing with the CAS is, that the CAS System is not supportet in the USA, it only is in Europe. So, while it is written on the battery, there is no CAS Marking on the grinder itself, where it would usually be. You can actually see the square cutout at 4:28, above the battery removal button, it would normally be there. Also, as someone who used to work for Metabo and assemble the grinders, and even the prototypes for the L, LT and LTX models, and also a lot of other Metabo tools, I can tell you, the grinders are made to last, even the older LTX model. Also, if you want to compare the new L model, I would actually suggest to compare it with the old LTX model too, if you can still get it new. Just to see what was "high end class", and what now is the "entry class". At least I think it would be very interesting.
Also, I ready some other comments, and someone said, and we saw, that the Metabo doesn´t really vibrate. That is because the rotors are all getting balanced in production. And what also actually helps, is the handle. There is an illness that apparently a lot of construction workers have, that the blood gets vibrated out of the fingers, while using tools, and then you can actually substain nerve damage for example. But I am definetly no doctor. But for the Metabo Handle I know for sure, that it is made, to also dampen the vibrations even more, so you don´t really get problems with this illness. Source for that is actually, that my Dad made the injection mold for the handle.
If I may had any grammatical errors or something please bear in mind, that English is not my first language.
@@AnteFuerstyou could get a CAS Battery from a different Brand tho
@@Raze2701This is pretty cool. I pull my hat for that. Ja, Metabo baut wirklich tolle Werkzeuge. Wir haben in unserem Handwerksbetrieb zwei Schlagbohrmaschienen von Metabo, und die überleben wirklich alles. Die Makita Akkuschrauber krepieren uns regelmäßig (wegen dem wobbeligen Lager) bei den Fein fliegen uns entweder Getriebe auseinander oder bei der Winkelbohrmaschiene haut das Bohrfutter ab (wenn man es nicht draufschrumpft) aber diese beiden Bohrmaschienen verrichten ihren Dienst seit über 10 Jahren, und der Dienst lautet hauptsächlich 51er bis 95er Löcher mit Lochfräsen durch stark verkleidete Sprinter Fahrzeugböden mit unterfütterten Holzböden zu Bohren. Du kannst dir das benötigte Drehmoment hierzu vorstellen, und auch wie das teils schräge Blech verzahnt und reißt:) Hut ab. Wie lange die das schon mitmachen kann ich nicht sagen, die Bohrmaschienen waren bereits vor mir da.
@@Raze2701Thanks for the insight. Just a small annotation: you can't just use German commas in English and it makes it quite hard to read.
Fun fact: Metabo has an even more powerful version of this grinder - with "LTX" in it's name (it's designated as "WVB 18 LTX BL 15-125 Quick" in EU), the manufacturers website advertises it as haveing ~400W more power (LT model is said to be "equivalent to 1100W corded, and LTX 1500W corded models).
Looks like as usual we dont get this in the states :(
@@TorqueTestChannel Unless there has been a change, their LTX tools are their top of the line. LTX models have always been available here in the past, I have an older LTX grinder. Probably should be coming soon. I know of some Metabo freaks that have a variety of LTX tools...drills, impact wrench and so on. Once it arrives, it should be readily available wherever other Metabo tools are sold.
Seems like this nasty germans dont want to share their good stuff
have 1.7kw 125 metabo grinder with lots of original attachments this shit is unstoppable like it so much
I have a couple of LTXs and an Inox that is even more powerful again. Inox for cutting stainless steel. It has a black gear head instead of silver.
As someone who splurged for a metabo when I was working industry, holy shit. The vibration dampening alone was worth the cost, my fingers stopped hurting and going numb, something that happened with every other grinder. The 5" went up against 9" grinders for material removal rate. An absolute beast of a corded grinder
Same. The first time I powered up my corded Metabo grinder with vibration damping, I was wearing gloves and hearing protection and couldn't even tell if the damn thing was on when I pulled the trigger, I had to double check that I remembered to plug it in! And it just feels like it has nearly unlimited power when using it, it is so hard to actually bog it down.
@@PhysicsDude55 gorilla mode stands no chance of stopping them
That battery angle rotation is a pretty cool feature.
A couple things that I found helps with vibration:
1) The more "solid" the handle is, the better the vibration damping when you're holding on to it and doing work. The best I've seen in my limited experience is the handle from the 3M air-grinders. A lot of cheaper grinders use very lightweight plastic handle that is *hollow*. Those are the absolute worst, so chalk it up to rookie mistakes. One thing I did that can help with that, is if you cut open the end of the handle (opposite the screw end), and fill it with concrete (and then cover it back up of course) to give it some mass, it really helps out at the expense of making it heavier.
2) Sometimes the arbor hole on some ¼" grinding discs is just a smidge too large, AND the rim on the back flange of the grinder is too small. Those two in combination can leave you with a grinding disc that is wayyy off center and that contributes a *ton* to vibration. The quick and easy solution is standard plumbers teflon tape that is used for NPT pipe fittings/threads. Cut a piece long enough to lay/wrap the edge of the rim on the back flange twice, and that really helps to take up the loose clearance space, center the grinding disc, or any other accessory (that doesn't have a 5/8-11 threaded arbor).
Metabo tools are professional tools. Someone who is working with these all day has way different recommendations than some hobbyists who runs a grinder as much in a year as a pro in a day.
I also fail to see the benefits of batteries on powertools for hobbyists. They are great for pros but simply rot away on hobbyists. Getting a cable can be a hassle but in the end it saves a lot of money for non pros.
Not many true Made in Germany powertools left but the ones that are being made there are absolutely top notch.
many higher end Bosch are made in germany, some more in other EU countries. As for metabo, as long as its made in germany its good, their chinese made tools really are not. Bought a chinese made metabo (not metabo HPT) jigsaw, sent it back the same day because it ran rough, vibrated and had sharp edges. Then went for a Bosch, made in hungary (meh) but much better made.
@@semifavorableuncircle6952 I have the bosch biturbo GWX-15sc made in germany i believe most of their top tier are made in germany as well, this metabo grinder (Dark Green) are the one i called the professional metabo not the HPT this is their lower line of "professional" tools.
@@joaovieira3653 true, my SDS Plus Bulldog was also made in Germany. However Bosch's lower tier SDS rotary hammers are made in China and Brazil
@@joaovieira3653 the hpt line is called hikoki or in the older days hitachi prettymuch everywhere in the world. Its not metabo, but its just hikoki, with a metabo name slapped on for the american market only i think.
As for the metabos. If its all plastic you can assume its a chinese tool. Like their cheap drills, they have a plastic outside on the chuck, and a full plastic body. Those are made in china. But the higher spec have an all metal chuck and most have a metal gearcasing as wel. Those are pretty strong machines. Only think i hate about my cordless drill is the "slow start" wich prevents it from instantly jumping to max rpm when you pull the trigger. Yes its great to not snap your wrist with all its power. But it sometimes is shit and if you got a stuck drillbit it actually prevents you from turning it as the machine sees it as overcurrent. Also the same if you remove big screws.
FESTO ... but they are quite high price
The cordless metabo has a completly shielded rotor, no dust will get to those magnets. Only the stator is cooled by the fan. Good design. Have an oldder version of metabo for 4 years BLDC type, still runs like new. You actually get what you pay for it.
I've been a boilermaker/fabricator in Australia for 13 years now.
I have used metabo from my first day as an apprentice up until today.
This brand is amazing, not only for their grinders but also for their impact drills, drills, reciprocating saws, and many other tools. After I completed my trade, I bought my first metabo kit. I have used nearly every tool every week without fault. Most people in Australia clown on this brand for some reason, but I have had nothing but pleasure using their tools for all these years.
Thank you for this comparison, as it will hopefully give German metabo the notoriety they deserve.
Metabo aint that good, they are considered cheap (the good valued cheap) in Germany, amazing brands are Festool, Hilti, DUSS, ...
PS: this grinder IS indeed very good, it just doesnt go for most of their tools
@@piepflitze788thy have amazing cordless drills as well as a few other awesome tools. Although you’re right that Bosch and Hilti dominate the corded hammer drills (is that the right name?) market, and festool dominates woodworking (sanders, circular saws etc). I have a lot of metabo tools though, because I know they don’t construct crap while not costing too much.
those people havent worked with dewalt or bosch, which die after few days of hardcore using. Metabo and Makita and Milawkee, 3 brands with immortal tools.
@@piepflitze788no one considers festool amazing. They have some good tools but it is largely hit and miss, and countless versions and "upgrades" of most of their tools that are released almost seasonally just goes to show that they have no issues with releasing half-baked products and don't care about their customers buyer's-remorse as their shiny new latest-and-greatest will be old news in a year or two.
@@apsyntohave you ever used a festool product?
I really do not care about angle grinders but as a german watching this is by far the most patriotic thing i have ever done
To be fair the eleven in "WVPB 18 LT BL 11-125" signals it is the 1100W cable equivalent class. To get the full Metabo power you need to test the
"WPBA 18 LTX BL 15-125". LTX is the highend class in the metabo brand and the 15 signals the 1500W cable aquivalent. RPM are up to 10000 in this class.
Keep on the total outstanding tests. Greetings from Germany
I've used Metabo since 2014 love it.
It's a shame that Germany is currently destroying it's manufacturing industry with ridiculous sanctions and energy policies that only end up damaging the economy and hurting it's own people.
The Metabo is for professionals that use it every day for hours. This is where they shine. I have some Metabo tools that I bought in the 90s, still in good condition, does the job just like at the first day. Would buy it again every time.
The fact that the word Metabo has been interchangeable with the term grinder in many trades really enforces how great they really are. You have your Skilsaw, your Sawzall, and your Metabo.
@@MrAbletospeak consumer grade hoovers are not that great.
Wasn’t that Flex? I know Metabo from their drills back in the day …
@@guidon.5413 FLEX created the angle grinder but Metabo put much more focus on them over the years
@@guidon.5413 Yep, in many languages flex is synonymous just like thermos and vacuum bottles.
@@guidon.5413Yep, Metabo stands for METAll BOhr dreher.
It's been over 40 years since I first came into contact with Metabo drills while doing a holiday job. In this company, a clever engineer used the drills as drive units for automation purposes. It was a ceramic production with abrasive dusts. You didn't have to do anything apart from changing the carbon brushes. The machines worked in continious operation.
In all my years working in industrial maintenance at multiple locations, with different companies, I've always found the Metabo being the best one that they always used. Even new facilities with new maintenance teams eventually someone would bring aboard the metabo, easily becoming a favorite. I would have been surprised to see anything less than the results shown. Great video! Shows the stats you provide are worthy as usual for ones needing this information in the field. Or someone who just doesn't wanna waste their hard earned money on less as sometimes the price is worth the quality. 👍👍
Yeah nah, the Metabo corded grinders have gone down in quality in recent years from my experience. I also know I company who has 25 Metabo corded grinders in for warranty
the safety features on the corded large sizes are worth it to a business
Metabo are known for their grinders. The corded models especially, but it seems their cordless ones are great as well. Thanks for the insight.
Have a corded metabo, it's been awesome.
The metabo grinders I have are super smooth running and have a ton of power. The safety clutch in them actually works without being a hinderance, they have saved me more than once.
Cool Video,
There are even stronger cordless anglegrinders existing from Metabo, like the wvb 18 Ltx bl 15-125-quick
Dropping videos at midnight Im supposed to go to sleep 😩
It's 230 here lol
1135pm, Alaska 😅
15.00 , Indonesia😊
5 o’clock somewhere
Dropped at 9am in Germany. TTC knows their target audience
the supposedly/hopefully more powerful or at least more expensive BOSCH GWS18V-13CB14 PROFACTOR grinder would be interesting as would their made in Germany corded model as a old school benchmark.
great video as always guys!
As I started the 18v cordless world with bosch, I am a little limited to other suppliers. But in terms of cable powered tools, I go for metabo wherever I can. Dropping a drilling machine 3 floors from the roof during photovoltaic installation and finding the matabo with nothing than a few scratches was just impressive
Still want to see Dewalt's 60v grinder put to the test. Just curious to see where it'll end up on the chart even if it is not officially ranked.
Hey :) as always, awsome video. Here in Europe, we have the Parkside Performance brand from Lidl. I think it would be awsome to test all those tools. They have (hammer)drills, angle grinders, recipro saws, etc etc.. and they even have a 12V line. Hit me up if you would like to send a few over.
Oh yes, it would be interesting. Could join up on tools or batteries. like they are not all that great, buut is having rando ones in garage/home... is it worth it, by performance?
i'd love to see this compared too, this line of DIY home tools is very popular in europe.
Good suggestion!! I’m very curious what they would do here..:)
Good suggestion, especially since they also started selling in Kaufland too.
aren't those not just rebranded Einhell?
Work in the maintenance field, have used the Metabo Cordless grinders for years... they stand the test of time and abuse, and they are worth the price.
It's always been my opinion the Kobalt isn't always the best performing tool brand, but is a good bang for your buck. I'm happy to see another test on here that reinforces that.
Many times they will bundle or offer you a free tool/battery with a purchase of a bare tool or other kits
Agreed. And this is someone who owns their tools. Perfectly fine for the average homeowner/dyier
Who makes them??
@@summerforever6736 Chevron. Same company that makes Skil, Ego, and Flex
Its a good homeowner tool. It is noticably slower rotating in use, but that translates to such a long runtime in practice l guess. It's nice for cleaning up welds since its light intermittent use between passes, at least on home gamer sized jobs. Never been impressed by it, but never disappointed either
Now i want a video of AVE tearing the metabo apart and giving us his thoughts on the build quality.
He loved the corded version.
@@justinbevier8231 Yes he did the pancake head metabo, which I actually own.
I'm looking at which brand of cordless tools I'm going to invest in now that I have a different job and need to buy my own tools. I was leaning towards Milwaukee or Dewalt but man those Metabo numbers make me tempted to go with them!
@@stickjohnny
Metabo batteries (CAS) are used by other specialty brands like Mafell (professional saws), Rothenberger (plumbing tools) and Starmix (vacuums). If you specialize in one of those fields this might be interesting. Otherwise there are more affordable options, certainly in the US.
I'm admittedly an all-out Metabo fanboy, and was pleased to see their grinder perform well here. I have 2 cordless grinders, and besides having good power, they are just comfortable and easy to use compared to most other models.
Would be really curious to see their corded models on TTC's rig. Their 15A corded grinders are absolute beasts. I'd be happy to lend one of mine to TTC to test.
I have far too many Bosch tools that I never liked but their right angle and die grinders are among my favorite. Makitas are great too.
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I have a couple biturbo models. I love them. They feel like they have ifinite power.
Test the Hilti, would love to see how it holds up.
Bosch GWS18V-13CN is also made in Germany, but for some reason Bosch only writes this in tiny lettering on the box and tool. This is Bosch's highest-end PROFACTOR model that is designed to work with the 8Ah and 12Ah batteries. Given that the 10A corded-equivalent model you tested did so well, I am very curious to see how their flagship 13A cordless equivalent cordless grinder will perform.
Bosch has the green models and the blue models. The green are for home workers, that use it once in a while, the blue models are for professionals. The blue come with a higher price tag but they can take much more dust and will not overheat, motors bearings and axles are high quality.
Bosch is having a troubled reputation because of their green consumer line of power tools being generally overpriced crap.
Dcg 418 (dewalt flexvolt) , 2980-20 (milwaukee fuel), GA036GZ (makita 40v), they are all 6" grinder
I’ve worked 34 years in maintenance at a chemical plant. Metabo has always been the grinder of choice.
After finding a Fein made in china (with a brushed DC Mabuchi clone Motor) yesterday, I thank the Toolgod that Metabo is back. I always felt for a long time they were lagging behind, even tough german welders love them, even more then the Makitas, but generally more old school tools, few brushless and so on. Funny how in the tool world so much is happening right now and brands that were in front get overtaken only to come back with a vengeance (My fav DeWalt for example).
The great old ones do not take kindly to being overshadowed
was the Fein a counterfeit?
I would love to see you test one of the Metabo HPT 36 Volt Multivolt Angle Grinders
I am curious too. I am impressed by my 18v hikoki = metabo hpt when putting a 8ah multivolt battery on it
you still have not shown the Dewalt 60v. I have one and love it. Would like to see that tested some day to show the outlier.
Love the channel! I do own a lot of cordless tools for a diy.
Would be cool to see the HILTI grinder tested.
Yes, I was about to comment the same.
Would really be interesting, since in Germany Metabo has a "decent" standing/reputation. But Everyone treats Hilti as the God-Tier...
@@himanu5625 My father has a HILTI that is 10+ years old and a switch broke, so he called them for a replacement part, here is what they did:
send it free of charge.
the part was still on stock, no "sorry you can't repair it, buy a new one" bullshit.
got what was basically an apology letter. After (again) 10+ years their standard was "this shouldn't have happened"
Thats God-Tier service right there (imho).
@@himanu5625 its the same in austria. workers swear on hilti
To my knowledge Hilti grinders are rebranded Bosch, at least the large corded grinder I own.
Metabo corded grinders led my dad to toss milwaukee in the trash. There is no comparison, the corded metabo are just in another universe for power and smoothness
The 9ah Ryobi battery has been discontinued, I got three of them for $70 each on a sale-day at Direct Tools Outlet before they disappeared.
Too bad I don't own any Ryobi tools, so they're just sitting in my closet like a pair of Nike MAGs.
i know you guys focus more on cordless stuff, but i would still love to see a showdown between 7inch corded grinders with 10-15amp motors.
Because those aren’t being replaced by cordless any time soon!
Nice to see it doing well, i have (more or less) the corded version of that Metabo, very happy with it.
If you can get your hands on one id really like to see how Fein grinders stack up to it, only ever see those in commercial/Industry metal working and even then they arent too common even in Central Europe.
Fein switched to rebadging Bosch grinders in recent time. They also are using Bosch batteries on their newer tools, with some again being orange coloured Bosch tools. None of which is bad, just surprising they went from designing all their parts to that.
Does this metabo use the bosch 18v cell?
Fein also have their 1000w equivalent grinder running on the ampshare platform
@@semifavorableuncircle6952 They just joined forces. Fein is a tiny company. Bosch has probably spent more on research and development for tool batteries in the last 2 years than Feins yearly revenue.
@MINe19830522 These are HD Metabo batteries used in the video, as far as I know they have been partnering with Panasonic to have the ins and outs of their battery platform ironed out, Bosch uses Samsung cells in their equivalent PRO CORE batteries.
Well done, Metabo! A solid choice for a solid-performing tool. I have an older corded Metabo and have been happy with it, especially with its low vibration compared to some of the other grinders I've used. 🐺🔧
I've always rated metabo tools highly. My dad has been using them for years. I'm surprised you've never tried Fein power tools. Very high end, high quality stuff...
In 1980s used Metabo grinders during power station boiler tube repairs. The work had to be fast but efficient and high quality. Metabo tools are the only ones that could survive the demands put on them, yet be light enough to use.
Dewalt DCG418 it's been my go too for years now, it's an absolute beast.
Be careful on the long time effects of the vibrations. Not sure they can be fixed.
Ever worked with better brands like Fein or Metabo? Often Dewalt are chosen by price instead of quality, despite even Makita is a better choice in that price segment ...
That's pretty neat that you can change the orientation of the battery. I often just undo the 4 screws at the gearbox and rotate it for particular uses (cutoffs) even on corded grinders.
I’ve had the Kobalt for years now. I’ve been very happy with it as O have been the rest of my Kobalt tools. They just never die.
I haven't been. It's been very clear to me that it was anemic. It's perhaps the worst Kobalt tool.
I totally agree, ive had mine for roughly 4 years, and have beat the everloving snot out of it, still works as good as the day i bought it!!!!
I picked up a Snap On branded Metabo a few months ago. I do auto restoration/fabrication. It’s a beast that does almost as well as the Metabo corded. The Snap On version doesn’t have RPM dial but has the screen and rotatable battery. The surprise here is the Kobalt. Likely all a home user would need.
The predecessor of the current metabo line, I have a Metabo WB 18 LTX BL 125, which I got for 150€, just the tool, pretty nice deal for a great tool.
Bought my first Metabo grinder 4" diameter wheel in 1974 or 75 from Wayne Welding Supply in Phoenix AZ... I still own and use it. Cord was replaced about 20 yrs ago. dammit
Test the corded Metabo 11A grinder. Great info as always
Id like to see the Makita XGT and the Flex grinders. I'm really interested to see how close Flex is to their claimed 10k RPM.
Makita 40v grinders please!!
All companies rate their grinders at crazy RPMs because that's their no load speed, but just like Torque said, the real test comes when the rubber hits the road.
@@engineer_alvProfessional brands doesn't exaggerate anything. EG the cordless Fein grinder I work with has regulated RPM and runs perfect, no matter how hard it's used. Only the thermo switch might shortly brake to protect the machine. Buy quality and concentrate on the job instead of bragging about irrelevant numbers 😉
I have Bosch and Metabo grinders in use. For applications with high power, we use the tested Metabo and the Bosch GWX 18V-15. Both of them are in their own league.
I had several 4.5" grinders, of different brands fail, with stripped out gears. I discovered they didn't have any grease, in the gear boxes.
I recommend opening, any new angle grinder and checking the gear box, for lube. The last corded Matabo grinder I bought, was lubed properly.
Ingersoll Rand makes a 😅Cordless IQV20 grinder. It looks very similar to the examples you tested. I’d be interested in seeing how it compares with Hp and Torque with the watt hours and runtime. For vibration usually they measure the middle of the dead handle and the the middle of the main handle. With the tool using an unbalanced wheel for the load. With the measurements being taken with two hands on the tool one on the dead handle and one on the main handle while running. Taking five readings. After each reading is taken then the unbalance wheel is rotated clockwise by 70° giving each reading a different location on the collet in case the gearing in the head affects the vibration level. I have to say your videos of testing different power tools is really awesome. Anytime I need a new power tool I always come check out the opinions on your channel… and it’s never let me down on my purchases. Thanks 🙏 for all reviews 👍
Would be interesting to see this vs the Metabo HPT/Hikoki as well
Yeah def want to see HPT/Hikoki on this list
I have a Milwaukee 6" battery powered angle grinder for use when working remote. It has plenty of power but the batteries don't last long so I only use it when I have to. I purchased a Metabo 5" corded grinder a couple of years ago and I absolutely love it. The Metabo was expensive but it has worked flawless even under a heavy load. I have no regrets about my choice.
I wouldn't waste money on a cordless angle grinder unless it is absolutely necessary. The power demand when grinding is too large and waiting for batteries to charge is too much of a hassle.
For those of us who have arthritis in our hands, the vibration dampening features are very important and are not usually discussed in any review.
It's quite refreshing to see "high cost equals high quality" actually being a thing with metabo. for a "rule of thumb" that has absolutely fallen by the way side, i'm glad that not everyone has given up on it yet.
The welding shop I used to work at only used Metabo grinders, except a couple of old school makita grinders. They both ate up brushes but they put out the beans too.
From my understanding, for the LiHD metabo batteries, the 8AH does not have as much of a current output as the 5.5AH battery. If just looking for peak power then it would be nice to see how the 5.5AH performs.
Proffesional testing, guys, found you for the first time. Never heard of Kobalt though (live in Europe) perhaps also test a park side version from Lidl. Those are very popular here in Europe and very affordable.. Keep it up!
I told y'all Metabo grinders and tools and general are incredible! I still have my flathead grinder.
I fell asleep on the couch and wake up to move to bed and see there’s a new grinder video- can’t go back to bed without watching that!😂🤘
Love your videos. Totally don't need one of these but I got to respect the testing.
I've got a couple $40 corded grinders that'll probably still have 20 years on them when I die.
I'd like to see how the Flex does. If it's got the beans it'd be an excellent deal for the price considering it's got the variable speeds and potentially a 24v advantage.
I got the Flex from ACME tools at $99 with a 5Ah battery. It just shipped yesterday, hope to test it out soon
@@engineer_alv same. I almost mentioned that but who knows how long they'll keep it at that price. Also, it might just be my area but Lowe's has the rear handle saw kit for 299, regularly it's 399.
Not to mention that stacked lithium. Kinda weird they didn't include the Flex being that it either dominates or places in the top 3 of every other tool duel they perform. Must know something we don't. 🤷🏾♂️
Love to see the Fein grinders tested as well, although those might be hard to get in the US
I've got 4 cordless Metabos and a wide mix of batteries and they absolutely love the 10ah versions. I've only ever had them cut out because of the thermal switch
Thanks for bringing the KOBALT along sir. Love the vids keep it up!
What i am missing on a Tool test is a look at the internals. When testing grinders it is interesting to see what the gearbox is made of and how good it is. How it the electronics build and last but not least the overall build quality. But for these you would have to open the tools. I loved it when AvE took tools apart!
It would be nice to add Festool angle grinder and some of Hilti's nuron with variable speed to comprasion. Also there is newer Metabo WVB 18 LTX BL 15-125 Quick which claims 1500W equivalent of corded models.
I suspect neither Festool nor Hilti are made by themselves.. Hilti used to be rebranded Bosch.
Thanks mate this gives the true matabo a good work out , it surprises me that most of the Metabo stuff your testing is the old Hitachi in different clothes, this is the real deal thank you for showing the green beastie, I have two of the older models only complaint is the switch toggle, but it easy to replace and a Six Australian dollerredoos i whish i had fixed it a year ago.
Great content keep up the great work.
Exactly, metabo and metabo hpt are COMPLETELY different
Metabo HPT is not an old Hitachi in different clothes; more like a HITACHI with a new badge slapped on it. Their bright green clothes are the same.
I would've preferred if they had brought the HiKOKI name from overseas to North America.
A few people are misled thinking Metabo HPT is a Metabo.
Hitachi bought Metabo and then sell Koki division to Chinese without rights to use Hitachi name.They named Hikoki their tools (Hitachi-Koki) for Europe and Metabo HPT (HPT-Hitachi power tools) for America.Hikoki models that are old Hitachi is good tools,new not that good.
I did a bunch of work this summer with the ryobi on 4ah batteries and while it did what I needed (concrete grinding) the heat generated in battery from use made it so that I couldn’t even charge the battery for 2 hours after shutdown and then waited another 2-3 hours to get back to full charge
The Ryobi/hart comparison is cool. It just validates the work you do.
Would be neat if you could test the "grinding hood" for the Hilti grinder. I think beeing able to suck off the dust can be pretty neat in some situations. :)
Here in Germany, Metabo is considered a mid-tier brand. The 'good stuff' would be Makita, Bosch Professional (the blue stuff, not green) and Festool.
I don't think that anyone considers Bosch as 'good stuff' here. Bosch is just what most bigger companies end up buying for their workers because it's easy to procure and solid enough quality and range, and Hilti is too expensive.
I have hardly met any independent contractors and self-employed who use it.
@@apsynto well, I don't know if you're getting the same stuff as we do. But here many contractors that don't want to pay the Hilti or Festool Premium use Bosch Professional (blue stuff).
@@Watzleroviak1210that was exactly his point.. Bosch are often chosen by price and habit.
Price level, discount and distributor range above quality.
Often the risk of having top quality tools stolen, decides what is bought...
East Europeans also want our Western quality equipment 🙈🙈💸💸
I have heard good things about Fein as well.
Thr big matebos and hiltis are definetly thw high class in germany what are you ok about, especially grinders are in most professional steel workshop matebos.
Just discovered your channel through RUclips suggestions. Very nice testing you do here. As a German a big fan of Bosch tools I really would like to see a Bosch Professional Angle Grinder too if this is possible. Just keep in mind that there are green and blue Bosch tools. The blue ones are for professionals and the green one for hobbyists, but that does not mean that the blue ones are only B2B sales.
Great to see Metabo getting some testing on the channel
That Metabo is a beast! Thanks for sharing all this information with us!
used the 7" metabos for years theyre insanely good tools amp hungry but insanely good
I bought my Metabo drill like 10 or 12 years ago, and only recently had to rebuild one of the batteries. New cells took it from a 3 Ah 18v battery, to 6 Ah's!
My backup Ryobi impact driver charger died recently, since Home Depot is having an awesome sale, I got two batteries and a charger for 99 bucks, and the grinder for free, so far ive loved using it, my other grinders have all been corded so im impressed by its performance
Got 1 of those really thin metabo grinders at work its awesome when u need it
i had a bad angle grinder accident and ever since then i feel uneasy using one of these tools. good video!
Cutting without the shield? 🙈
Great video. Such attention to detail and quality science. Nice one.
Good on you bro. I wanted to see that metabo. It'd be cool to see the drill next
Glad to see the dark green finally make an appearance on the TTC! They're the only grinders I buy anymore, with or without cords. Beware that not all their tools are made in Germany though. And the battery release is the worst! Who thought it was a good idea to push the release button in the same direction that the battery exits??
Worst batt release ever made!
Good Test, but the strongest Maschin is the WB 18 LTX BL 15-125 Quick. So this is only the middle range. By Metabo is always L for lite worker, LT for normal and medium Work, and LTX for Heavy Work or Industrial use...
We dont get one here that's 4.5" to 5" like these others in that class
Those new Metabo cordless grinders are quite good indeed. An really smooth. I have tried them and compared them to their previous brushless model - and was pleasantly surprised, the new ones are better in every possible way. And here in the UK Metabo is not especially pricy, pretty much on Milwaukee level.
Another "made in Germany" excellent power-tool company, renowned for their grinders - is "Fein". You may want to check them out as well. Enormous Old-School quality! They've had the most powerful 18V cordless grinder on the market for many years until a year or so ago, before the others released their newest models. Very hard to find comparison tests online though, as they are not so popular outside Germany.
I work with Fein 18V grinder, it's outstanding. Unfortunately their range of accu tools are limited. Would choose Metabo if I had to start over ...
@@OmmerSyssel Yes, they have excellent 18V Multi-tools and Grinders (have them and know them), they also have normal drills, impact drivers and SDS-drills (don't have them, but i think that the SDS hammer- drill is pretty good). I mean - if you want to have all your tools on one battery platform - Fein is not the brand definitively. But everything about Fein screams of Old School German Quality! The feel and the make of those tools is something really different from all the other brands.
I don't see why someone who is not on a tight budget could not invest in a charger and a couple of batteries, getting their best tools in his arsenal.
Nice to have my assumptions confirmed via Metabo (Germany). Now can we please get to some corded grinders, particularly the 11-13 amp 4 1/2" (and/or 5"-6") models? I'm sorta dying to see a Hercules, Makita, Dewalt, and Metabo (Germany) rat-tail showdown.
Corded grinders you need to test for durability over time. Tradesmen I read have said Makita and DeWalt are the corded grinders to get.
@@nmatthew7469 I generally don't disagree. Though there are objective metrics you can still use to rate them.
Power wise makita xgt grinder should have no problems beating it, if current model doesn't cut it new one released in japan should be far ahead both in power and rpm :) love this series btw :)
Would be cool to see the xgt grinder tested
I would love to see the flex be tested as well, I haven’t heard much about that one.
I think that when it comes to good devices, much more is important. E.g. pleasant grip, easy to use, work for a long time without effort, etc... the rotating battery connection is an interesting detail.
For the metabo grinders the nomenclature tells you basicly everything you watn to know about the tool for example the 11 tells you that is is comparable to a 1100 watt corded grinder and the 5.5 ah batteries are actually more powerful than the 8 ah because of other cells with a higher discharge rate but less overall capacity
Can you do a comparison on the speed affective use on the adjustable models ? ( good for polish ? quiet for sanding ? ..... ? )
Also due to how these are used often if it is a big job then a larger corded model is used but as handy cordless then it may be fare to do a cycle test like 30 seconds on then 1 minute off
as I have found that some tool batteries can have a safty cut out that dose not realy match up with whats on the box ( eg; DeWalt may run a lot more in a days work not having to change batteries?)
I would love to see how the Bauer brushless grinder with the 8ah battery compares in this list
I think the main problem is importing the tools, in europe metabo is in the dewalt and milwaukee price range. Also i believe the 5,2 ah battery is the strongest. Great test again guys
5.5ah battery, not the 5.2ah battery
@@Andrew-xd9fg which is actually a 6ah they label a 5.5ah for shipping reasons and to bypass some taxes/import fees
but yes metabo says them selves the 5.5ah is their most powerful and the battery they recommend for power and test with
Metabo grinders are top notch, Metabo anything else is not.
Maybe you could test Fein grinders, they show up in steel fab shops sometimes. I hate their guts but they're expensive and German so someone must like them.
What about the Metabo SXE 150? It's just a Mirka in another color - can't fault it's quality.
Their German made corded drills are very good too. Frankly, most of their corded tool are good quality but not usually cheap.
@@BL-yj2wp Metabo also makes best cordless drill.
Not true. Metabo makes excellent cordless drills and impact drivers. Very well made. Even the Chinese made Metabo are well designed and constructed.
Great stuff. Test one of Hilti's angle grinders, they're even more expensive. Somewhere in the area of USD 650.
would love to see how other chervon made tools compare like flex and skil!
Metabo used to be a great brand. Now there is a great difference in quality between their products and you really need to know your stuff to get the good products. As a german, I can confirm that most shops and professionals use Makita and Bosch Professional. I see metabo in the garages of old guys
Now I'm curious what my 20v brushed dewalt grinder puts down. It doesn't have the most rpm but the things a powerhouse when cutting. I always use grab it instead of my corded Bauer unless I have to grind for a long time
Metabo makes really good tools, their whole cordless lineup is very nice.
Their Metabo battery rotation stuff is an Excellent invention..🌟💡