Review: Chinese Metabo HPT vs German made Metabo, this might shock you!

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025

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  • @jeffreyhunterbuilder
    @jeffreyhunterbuilder  4 года назад +20

    I was incorrect by saying Metabo bought Hitachi a company called Koki Holdings bought both Metabo and Hitachi, they named the grinder Metabo HPT, I stick by my review of this grinder though.

    • @dondegnan
      @dondegnan 4 года назад +12

      Hitachi Koki (part of Hitachi Group) bought Metabo GMBH in 2016.
      KKR Investments bought Hitachi Koki, creating HK Holdings LTD.
      HK holdings cannot use the name Hitachi, so they renamed Hitachi Power Tools to HiKoki Power Tools worldwide.
      Except in the USA.
      In the USA they are Metabo HPT.
      Metabo is still a different company.

    • @hagakure81
      @hagakure81 4 года назад +4

      You are comparing apples with oranges though when you look at Metabo and Metabo HPT though.
      Honestly I think Metabo got the raw end of whatever deal was hammered out there because their brand name will come down.
      I can understand them wanting to expand their market outside of europe, but you don't do that by having a rival brand using your name on their products XD

    • @iSleepDoc
      @iSleepDoc 4 года назад

      I paid $40 for it from Amazon and it came with 5 cutting and grinding plates in a plastic box. I think it’s not a bad deal at all.

    • @chuckmiller5763
      @chuckmiller5763 4 года назад +1

      @@dondegnan interestingly, Hitachi Koki made motors for both Metabo and Hilti in the passed.

    • @Berto-1117
      @Berto-1117 3 года назад +7

      @@hagakure81 hitachi has always been and will always be bigger than metabo. Metabo is only popular in some parts of europe while hitachi is in almost every country. The metabo hpt tool line is very nice, no way they bring any name down

  • @joeydelrio
    @joeydelrio 9 месяцев назад +4

    my old school metabo just went down a few days ago, 15 years old and 8 of those years was heavy everyday industrial use when i was a shop mechanic. wow what a tool!

    • @harveysmith100
      @harveysmith100 2 месяца назад

      Puts some new brushes in it. I will be fine

  • @paftaf
    @paftaf 4 года назад +16

    I like your DIY blue screen ;-)

  • @rickworthington3062
    @rickworthington3062 4 года назад +10

    Good Review. There's now a HUGE price gap between the 2. Chinese HPT version is $40, (and I bought mine one sale for $29 on amazon). For $30 vs $100, with a 5 year warranty...no brainer.

    • @UserUser14880
      @UserUser14880 4 года назад +4

      Good Job Supporting Chi-na made Garbage.

    • @MrWizDad
      @MrWizDad 4 года назад +6

      5yr warranty no way. Read the warranty, the corded grinders are an 'exception' to the 5 yr warranty...It has a 1 yr warranty.

    • @rickworthington3062
      @rickworthington3062 4 года назад +11

      @@MrWizDad WRONG! Metabo verified the 5 year warranty on the corded grinder I purchased. They still advertise the same damn unit with 5 year warranty right in the description. They specifically stated that the 1 year limit applies to cordless. Stop pulling info out of your backside without verifying.

    • @rickworthington3062
      @rickworthington3062 4 года назад +9

      @@UserUser14880If you knew global supply chains from the hole in your arse you would know that even German made products, USA products, have constituent materials and components made in china so give me a damn break.

    • @chuckmiller5763
      @chuckmiller5763 4 года назад +1

      @@MrWizDad Nope, it has a 5 year warranty.

  • @wayneclark1699
    @wayneclark1699 4 года назад +5

    bought one of these just because of your review, paid $49 at lowes, love your review. Definitely worth it

  • @autofficinaportafortuna
    @autofficinaportafortuna 3 года назад +3

    I own both German Metabo and Hitachi/Hikoki/Metabo HPT power tools and both are great quality tools. I'm not saying your opinion is not valid, but it seems like you're main concern is where its made and not how it's made. I've lived in Germany for a total of 9 years and I've seen plenty of cheap German made tools. My point is, regardless of where a product is made, it's the overall quality and features are what sets it apart. Just because it's heavy, does not mean it's heavy duty. The tightness of tolerance plays a huge role in anything that heats up, and it could be those tolerances are due to heat expansion. Yes, there are a lot of cheap Chinese made tools out there but not all of them are substandard.

  • @monmixer
    @monmixer 4 года назад +12

    I just bought the Chinese version at Lowe's for an amazing 37 bucks for my son in law for Christmas. He works at a company called East Coast Metals that makes metal roofing and other types of metal sheeting. So I figured he would have some fun cutting some metal with this unit. I was bit put of by the lower amperage but it appears it will be just fine. It also came with a 5 disc assortment. Thank you for the review. It will be fine for his first unit and will last for years. So for 37 bucks I think I did OK.

    • @brettrogers5759
      @brettrogers5759 2 года назад +1

      I use it to cut stone everyday he probably thinks it’s just fine 👍🏼

  • @michaelbowlin7641
    @michaelbowlin7641 4 года назад +7

    Actually Hitachi bought German Metabo in 2017. Then in 2018 the Koki Holdings investment firm bought out Hitachi and also got German Metabo. In 2018 Hitachi was required to change it's name. In North America Hitachi was renamed Metabo Hpt. In Europe and other countries Hitachi was renamed to HiKoki.

    • @jeffreyhunterbuilder
      @jeffreyhunterbuilder  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for the info, with everybody buying everybody it's hard to keep it all strait.

    • @michaelbowlin7641
      @michaelbowlin7641 4 года назад

      @@jeffreyhunterbuilder you're welcome. Just glad i had the knowledge and information to pass forward. I myself am using the Metabo Hpt cordless power tools, but im using their 36 Volt Multivolt platform. Im in Industrial Construction and the multivolt platform is just a better tool for me in my opinion

    • @robertrada4783
      @robertrada4783 4 года назад +8

      I’m going to help you out here: Super giant investment firm, KKR, bought Hitachi-Koki. Hitachi-Koki Holdings Firm changed it’s name to Koki Holdings Firm because KKR didn’t want to pay for the Hitachi name. That element is just a tax and liability shell. I have no idea if KKR set up both holding firms or if that was setup prior by Hitachi-Koki. Regardless, we can ignore that bit. I’m not aware of the history with Koki and Hitachi, but I am aware that Hitachi’s tool division has been called Hitachi-Koki for...well as far back as I can remember (which isn’t much). Branding on packaging and tool shells had deemphasized the Koki bit in recent years. Nevertheless Hitachi-Koki is the company that bought Metabo, and KKR is the company that bought Hitachi-Koki. Thus, the re-branding of the tools everywhere exceot the USA as HiKoki makes perfect sense. Here in the states, someone smoked a lot of drugs and decided to rename it to the Metabo logo with HPT tacked on it in lower case letters. Of all of the business decisions made by mankind in the history of our existence, this is the one that makes me question everything about reality.

    • @PrincePisces
      @PrincePisces 3 года назад

      @@robertrada4783 you'd think it'd be hikoki or still hitachi but not no Metabo hpt, everyone calls it Metabo and get confuse on the German and new rebranded one... So then it doesn't become big on the market with all this confusion

    • @sizif717
      @sizif717 3 года назад

      @@robertrada4783 Best comment ever!

  • @TechnoGlobalist
    @TechnoGlobalist 4 года назад +4

    THe sound is way different.
    Does the Hitachi even has the Metabo safety-clutch?
    Best feature of Metabo anglegrinders imo

  • @WeeAethan
    @WeeAethan 4 года назад +17

    I found Jordan Peterson's estranged twin

  • @harveysmith100
    @harveysmith100 2 месяца назад

    The German Metabo is really popular in Europe. Really good stuff. Lots of it made in Germany or Europe. Some of there lower end stuff maybe made in the far east.
    In answer to your question about the name Metabo HPT. The rest of the world, Hitachi is now called Hikoki, it's just the USA it's called Metabo HPT. The logic was to get the name Metabo more well known in America.
    I am British and have been using Metabo for about thirty years, it just doesn't disappoint

  • @thenexthobby
    @thenexthobby 4 года назад +2

    It's curious that the main differentiator here is continually described in terms of where it's made, when in fact what influences how and why the tools are different is due to DESIGN.

  • @brann2911
    @brann2911 5 месяцев назад

    09:19 you helped me reach a conclusion! I bought a metabo angle grinder that looks exactly like the metabo angle grinder made in Germany, but it said made in china. I returned it for the “made in Germany”( in red letters on the box 😂) flat head 5 inch angle grinder immediately, the only other option. The “made in china” metabo angle grinder did not include the special handle and maybe other features. Thank you! There was a 200.00 dollar difference.

    • @brann2911
      @brann2911 5 месяцев назад

      So yes they began making, ”those” in china!

  • @patrickberkery8854
    @patrickberkery8854 2 года назад

    I might add. Super props to you making this in 30 degrees and with just a hoodie! I woulda probably had a big ol puffer down jacket, knit cap, and gloves!

  • @fishingformikeytv9200
    @fishingformikeytv9200 4 года назад +8

    Metabo hpt is still from japan hitachi has been Owned by koki for over 10 years maybe longer they were always hitachi koki in japan

    • @94Gidge
      @94Gidge 4 года назад

      We're Hitachi koki for as long as I can remember in Australia to

    • @JohnSmith-xq6cv
      @JohnSmith-xq6cv 4 года назад

      No

  • @craigmonteforte1478
    @craigmonteforte1478 3 года назад +3

    Just by happenstance I happen to own the exact Hitachi grinder I bought it as a throwaway tool , because I put a 9” sanding disc on it to grind down bottom paint on my vessels the paint dust is very coarse and typically destroys bearings and other moving parts my Hitachi performed the tasks fine and is still in use as a grinder even 20 something years later I’m quite happy with its performance

  • @christianness8983
    @christianness8983 2 года назад

    They're two separate companies who both make professional tools, with Metabo being more industrial grade.

  • @southernfarmer8526
    @southernfarmer8526 4 года назад +1

    Just came across your channel for a review on that new metabo and Lowe’s has it on sale right now for $39 and original is $49. Thinking for around the house that ain’t too shabby!

    • @southernfarmer8526
      @southernfarmer8526 4 года назад

      Oh and also comes w a case and 5 grinding discs. I love my old Germany metabo’s an dewalts at the shop though!

  • @lostcolonyforge5792
    @lostcolonyforge5792 2 года назад

    i didn't know you could move the guard on angle so I could live with the gaurd

  • @zoemaravilla2538
    @zoemaravilla2538 2 года назад +1

    I bought this one at Lowe’s. It came with 5 thick grinding wheels. I do tile work and wanted to put a diamond blade but find that its too thin so its loose. I press the lock button and am able to still turn the blade. Hopefully this makes sense and someone can shed some light. Thanks!

    • @flatrockfiend
      @flatrockfiend 2 года назад +2

      Turn the nut that holds the wheel on over, one side is for recessed wheels like grinding, flap wheels ect. and the other is for flat cutting wheels.

    • @NB_Chad
      @NB_Chad Год назад

      Yes the other comment is right. You need to flip the nut around! I have the same grinder and it has no problem with diamond wheels and other masonry wheels.

  • @politic17
    @politic17 4 года назад +1

    In my book >>> If any kind of too stays with me for a year and doesn't have any kind of problem >> I'll give it a pass. It's more than enough for me. A year should be a good time to evaluate a tool and get the use of it and know what might hurt it or destroy it.

  •  4 года назад +1

    Now can you do the Japanese made Makita model and the Chinese Made Makita?

  • @NB_Chad
    @NB_Chad Год назад

    The Chinese one is only $40 local to me here in Massachusetts and I just scored one on marketplace brand new with plastic still on the discs and in box for $20. I'm a home improvement contractor and this cheaper metabo htp is just perfect for the price where I'm not worried about burning it up. Last year doing porcelain tile jobs I went through 3 grinders! 2 dewalts and one of harbor freights "top" brands. I was furious with the dewalts! There's no excuse for them to burn up like that on some damn tile! I love Makita and Milwaukee. Now there's a few newer brands and other not new that are very good but those are my favorite for my line of work.

  • @histguy101
    @histguy101 2 года назад +1

    You keep calling it Chinese. It's a Japanese tool. Most brands have most of their power tools manufactured in China, even German Metabo.
    You're describing it like it's some kind of knock off harbor freight brand. Milwaukee is an American Company...owned by a Chinese company and most of their power tools are manufactured in China. Should we start calling Milwaukee "The Chinese made tools"?
    Metabo is a German tool company famouse for their grinders.
    Hikoki(Metabo HPT in the US) is a Japanese tool company famous for their nailers.
    Both companies have been around for ages and produce high end tools.

  • @davidperry4013
    @davidperry4013 4 года назад +5

    Rather pay the extra dough for a quality German, USA, Switzerland, Sweden, or Japan built power tool than settle for a Chinese made power tool. Metabo GmbH > Metabo HPT. If your getting a metabo HPT angle grinder, you might as well get a Ryobi one instead.

  • @arvinbascon6748
    @arvinbascon6748 3 года назад

    I believe Metabo HPT is not made by Chinese because it is still under the japanese company called Hitachi Koki Holdings known globally as HiKoki Power Tools they are the same as the Hitachi Tools before but hitachi has another name as well which Metabo HPT in America but yeah the Metabo from Germany is different from them.

  • @chriss2295
    @chriss2295 2 года назад

    The Metabo HPT with 5 grinder wheels is $39. That's $20 in wheels alone. You get a case too. I prefer this deal over any other cheapo brand. I only use it as a dedicated grinder and that's it.

  • @1bigslug
    @1bigslug 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the comparison!!

  • @terrellscaife2411
    @terrellscaife2411 Год назад

    OK do a review or can you do a review on the CC12Y

  • @tomguriel7577
    @tomguriel7577 2 года назад +1

    The video was a little dull, but he broke down the difference between the two very well. I will be buying the the German model. Thank you for the video

  • @dannymeil3294
    @dannymeil3294 3 года назад +1

    I got my metabo yesterday at Lowe’s for 36.00

  • @patrickberkery8854
    @patrickberkery8854 2 года назад

    For 39 bucks, I can totally live with that guard. It did outperform the "German" one in grinding and cutting from what I saw. No pun intended. Ok. Yes. It was intended...

  • @jayedwin98020
    @jayedwin98020 4 года назад

    I like your full-face shield! What's the brand, how much did it cost and where did you purchase it?

    • @jeffreyhunterbuilder
      @jeffreyhunterbuilder  4 года назад

      Here is the Amazon link: www.amazon.com/Uvex-Bionic-Polycarbonate-Anti-Fog-S8510/dp/B001VY3ACE/ref=sr_1_25?crid=U9RCBH6XFLSB&dchild=1&keywords=face+shield&qid=1604341502&sprefix=face+s%2Caps%2C210&sr=8-25

    • @jayedwin98020
      @jayedwin98020 4 года назад

      @@jeffreyhunterbuilder Hey Jeffery,
      "Thank you" for your exceptionally fast response.
      Greatly appreciated!
      Plan on ordering the mask today.
      Thanks Again,
      Jim Dasher
      Spectrum Graphics
      A Div. of Ridgewood Industries, Inc.
      (Seattle metro area)
      P.: 425.774.0170
      P.: 206.546.5591
      E.: rii.jed@gmail.com

  • @bslicedad
    @bslicedad 4 года назад

    Whats the model number to the german made one? Or better yet supply links to the projects. Thanks

  • @bearteastudios
    @bearteastudios 5 месяцев назад

    On Amazon right now the German one is $230 or $130 and the Chinese one is $40.
    I bought the Chinese one bc this was an unplanned tool purchase mine came with the nut attached to the tool and I have no idea how to get it off to put on a plate.
    When I try to use the wrench it just spins. Can anyone help me out please?

  • @baseballdude8491
    @baseballdude8491 3 года назад

    U should check out the 36V cordless grinder that can also be plugged in with the AC adapter
    It is top quality

  • @raduvladimirmihalache9226
    @raduvladimirmihalache9226 Год назад

    Fyi, Hitachi bought Metabo, not the other way. You should get your facts right...

  • @bjornegan6421
    @bjornegan6421 4 года назад

    Would you recommend something like the porter cable over a milwaukee?

    • @jeffreyhunterbuilder
      @jeffreyhunterbuilder  4 года назад +2

      No, I have a Porter Cable, and a Milwaukee, the Milwaukee is a better grinder.

    • @bjornegan6421
      @bjornegan6421 4 года назад

      @@jeffreyhunterbuilder thank you.

    • @hagakure81
      @hagakure81 4 года назад +1

      You need to say what you want out of it though. Using it twice a year around home? Yeah, go for PC. Using it every day at work, make an investment lol

    • @bjornegan6421
      @bjornegan6421 4 года назад

      @@hagakure81 enlighten me

    • @hagakure81
      @hagakure81 4 года назад

      @@bjornegan6421 can you elaborate?

  • @earlycuyler8719
    @earlycuyler8719 4 года назад

    I have the Chinese stuff and have abused it with the only fail being the brushed li-on sawsall. It broke because I cut a bunch of oak tree roots in the ground with it.

    • @chuckmiller5763
      @chuckmiller5763 4 года назад

      We use Hitachi (abuse more like it) every day, 40 hours a week. No problems. I have a garage full of Dewalt grinders, and other stuff burned up.

  • @eddiekilby
    @eddiekilby 2 года назад

    Payed 39.99 for mine I don't think I would pay 70.00 dollars for it.

  • @campbellmarty36
    @campbellmarty36 3 года назад

    1 minute into this video... I ALREADY made my mind up!! I’ll piss away the extra $20 if ya know what I mean!!!🤣

  • @dougtilaran3496
    @dougtilaran3496 Год назад

    My bottom line is Makita for metal work

  • @DingusSquatfordJr.
    @DingusSquatfordJr. Год назад

    How come you sound like my Physics professor? lol

  • @gmereb5401
    @gmereb5401 4 года назад +2

    different value\price, different quality

  • @ulisescampos7010
    @ulisescampos7010 4 года назад +2

    i don't understand metabo is made japan right? not made in 🇨🇳

    • @dave5190
      @dave5190 4 года назад

      The best way to explain it is: Metabo HPT is just a new name for Hitachi tools. Yep, it is JUST a name change.
      Same tools just new name.
      Metabo (without the HPT behind it) is a German company.
      Metabo and Metabo HPT tools are different and NOT interchangeable. Battery packs, etc.

    • @hagakure81
      @hagakure81 4 года назад

      @@dave5190 it's interesting that the battery packs aren't interchangeable. I thought they bought Metabo to get access to their battery tech. Now the HiKoki (and presumably the Metabo HPT tools) are rocking the multivolt (18/36) batteries, while Metabo have their LiHD which they actually share with multiple other European tool makers...

    • @brandonrasmussen6692
      @brandonrasmussen6692 3 года назад

      @@hagakure81 actually Hitachi batteries and metabo hpt batteries ARE interchangeable just the original metabo is not compatible

    • @hagakure81
      @hagakure81 3 года назад

      @@brandonrasmussen6692 Thats because Metabo HPT isn't Metabo, its Hitachi, now Hikoki with a new nameplate. My comment even stated that presumably Metabo HPT tools are using the MV batteries.

  • @marcosquartec5073
    @marcosquartec5073 2 года назад

    I dont see a Chinese version there but keep hearing Chinese so either you didn't do your homework you forgot to add the Chinese version in here cause i only see a German version and a Japanese version!!!its Japanese not Chinese huge difference!!!

  • @J.Pelle87
    @J.Pelle87 3 года назад

    Hitachi was founded in Hitachi Japan

  • @Ritcheyyy
    @Ritcheyyy 11 месяцев назад

    I have like 8 metabo(germany) grinders so I cant compare but they are good, you cant go wrong, just make sure its made in germany because they started to make some tools made in china, and we dont support communist states in any way🎉

  • @greytrucking3259
    @greytrucking3259 4 года назад +4

    Remember your ABC's. Anywhere but China. I thought mine was made else where when I bought it, but I have the same pitiful guard attachment. Going to have a talk with that sales guy from the welder supply company.

  • @peterironrope
    @peterironrope 4 года назад +1

    Better off paying a little extra to purchase name brand products rather than buying a knock -off version that's made in China. Yes, a person may save a few dollar, but one thing I noticed with products made in China is they 're low quality made and I few tools I have used for the very first time that were made in China have broken on the very first time I used them. Excellent review Jefferey Hunter Builder!!!!

    • @pranaym3859
      @pranaym3859 3 года назад

      Metabo hpt is japanese
      It is none other than Hitachi
      For the Europe and Asia they're known as Hikoki

    • @histguy101
      @histguy101 2 года назад

      It's not a knock off brand. Most high end power tool brands manufacturer much of their line in China, including Milwaukee, Makita, DeWalt, etc.

  • @NELSONG12
    @NELSONG12 4 года назад

    Good point.

  • @UserUser14880
    @UserUser14880 4 года назад +5

    Great Video, thanks for the review. If not USA Made, German is always next in line.

    • @wzleegee
      @wzleegee 4 года назад +5

      USA made garbage like USA president, he is fully joker

    • @STOkitten
      @STOkitten 3 года назад

      Im sorry but US made stuff is often a massive disappointment

  • @zadeh79
    @zadeh79 4 года назад +1

    Metabo HPT is owned by Japanese, Engineered in Germany, and Made in China.

    • @man9170
      @man9170 3 года назад +1

      Metabo HPT is owned by Japanese, Engineered in Japan, and Made in China

    • @brandonrasmussen6692
      @brandonrasmussen6692 3 года назад

      They are assembled in Japan and made in japan

    • @brandonrasmussen6692
      @brandonrasmussen6692 3 года назад

      Hitachi in Japanese literally means sunrise

    • @brandonrasmussen6692
      @brandonrasmussen6692 3 года назад

      Hitachi china has not existed since 2014

  • @brandonrasmussen6692
    @brandonrasmussen6692 3 года назад +1

    Hitachi is actually Japanese not Chinese btw

    • @ISNIP3DOJ
      @ISNIP3DOJ 3 года назад

      Metabo hpt is made in Shanghai

    • @histguy101
      @histguy101 2 года назад

      @@ISNIP3DOJ All tool companies have some(and by some, I mean most) of their power tools manufactured in China, including all the top brands like Milwaukee, Makita, etc.
      Hitachi/Hikoki/Metabo HPT are Japanese tools engineered in Japan, and manufactured in Japan, China, and elsewhere.
      Metabo are German tools engineered in Germany, and manufactured in Germany, China, and elsewhere.

  • @likhhilton5404
    @likhhilton5404 4 года назад +2

    I thought they are Japanese. Metabo HPT

    • @pete_lind
      @pete_lind 4 года назад +1

      Made in Metabowerke Germany since 1930s
      Owned by KKR and name now HIKOKI (hitachi power tools and Metabo)

    • @brandonrasmussen6692
      @brandonrasmussen6692 3 года назад

      They are ....they just don't know how to use Google..... original metabo is German otherwise it's all Japan

  • @yeboisiggy
    @yeboisiggy 2 года назад

    the HPT shit is different. it’s hitachi. not metabo.

  • @diegudr
    @diegudr 3 года назад

    Dude you look just like harry dean stanton.

  • @gmereb5401
    @gmereb5401 4 года назад

    hitachi factory vs metabo factory

  • @chuckmiller5763
    @chuckmiller5763 4 года назад

    Those Hitachi grinders (or Metabo hpt) are running about $49.00 at Lowes all the time. They are great grinders. But you are making an a[pples to oranges comparison, German Metabo would better compare with Hilti or Festool.

  • @itonjoans354
    @itonjoans354 5 лет назад +2

    good review, I would definitely buy the German made.

  • @tribulationprepper787
    @tribulationprepper787 2 года назад

    Below freezing where you are!

  • @wayne8498
    @wayne8498 4 года назад +1

    These are not similar models or similar power ratings, comparing them is of no use

  • @gloriab9361
    @gloriab9361 4 года назад

    Someone’s gonna lose a digit. That cut should have taken 15 to 20 seconds.

  • @tchogworks1987
    @tchogworks1987 2 года назад

    The Chinese one appears to be junk

  • @JohnSmith-xq6cv
    @JohnSmith-xq6cv 4 года назад

    Not worth 3x the price

    • @STOkitten
      @STOkitten 3 года назад

      I have to argue otherwise
      Specially if u have to use it daily for multiple hours

  • @pjmarkert1
    @pjmarkert1 4 года назад

    Chinese Metabo is $39 at Loews

  • @rocodux
    @rocodux 3 года назад

    You're actually comparing a home version vs a pro version. In any brand that is going to be a difference. Is like when you compare a VW vs an Audi. Your comparison is just ridiculous

  • @kelseygrammar9400
    @kelseygrammar9400 3 года назад

    both made in china