PROJECTIONS, Episode 37: HTC Vive Pro Hands-On Demo and Impressions!
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- Опубликовано: 20 дек 2024
- Our weekly show covering the fast-developing world of virtual and augmented reality technologies is back! To kick off 2018, we visit HTC's San Francisco office to try the HTC Vive Pro headset, a surprise announcement at this year's CES that improves video resolution, audio quality, and ergonomic design. Here's how it compares with the original Vive.
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I don't think I am going to get the Pro, I have the Vive already and I am happy with it.
Maybe 2 more VR generations will convince me upgrading my Vive and PC.
Yeah totally agree.
Truth Seeker they ll make the old one obsolete and probably won't support it anymore since it's HTC after all we are talking about
fluff, that's apple who is doing that. Plus you have to remember valve is in charge here when it comes to the vive. That's not going to happen, in fact, a lot of the hardware is going to be backwards compatible, so you can buy the pro but still keep your old equipment if you prefer the wands, etc etc
Eren Black Edits so why is their new one just slightly better? I would've expected a much wider fov and knuckle controllers incl but the upgrade is just slightly better
Eren Black Edits but anyway oculus seems like a better choice when it comes to money
I’ve been foaming at the mouth waiting for your guys’ video!
Ounce again Tested has the best in depth review of a product that all other reviews lack.
Great Job Thank You!!
The intersting part about the two cameras, is that they are placed exactly where the lenses are and that to me suggest it will allow both stereo image of the real world and possible even some AR stuff.
If this is more geared for professionals as opposed to gamers I'd think a focus on AR would be likely.
Good job guys as always, welcome back. Excited to see more 2018 Projections
No eye tracking means it is still stone age VR. Eye tracking is the key to it all. Moreover, with eye tracking, they could move to 4K resolution right now without straining existing graphics cards (you only need to render at full resolution at the point of focus, not everywhere else simultaneously).
Eye tracking is just a part of the whole package. To truly take full advantage of that, the sweet spot in the optics need to get bigger. What good is eye tracking if what you're looking at is still out of focus because the optics wont let you see it properly?
eye tracking tech might take another 4 to 5 years to be perfect like Oculus said so it you want to wait then be patien because im going to buy Vive Pro and enjoy it now until then
No, key is resolution and controls.
I think you also need focus shifting based on your pupil dilation.
I want to look down the iron sights of a rifle and have a choice of how much I’m focusing on the front post or target.
It would probably be very difficult to calibrate.
I think they would love eye-tracking so they would know even more about you.
Finally words from someone who tried all headsets AND knows what they're talking about
Can't wait until this is available at retail. Super excited, but I'm very happy with my Vive 1.0 HMD for the time being.
Sometimes I think Tested is the only place that cares about VR...
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I care about VR too ❤
I heard rumors of a possible trade in program
You have no idea :)
6:29 close call!
Almost the "ipad" among the VR headsets but just not quite there yet if ever. lol
Is there any chance VR headsets could go with a reflective system rather than a refractive one (like telescopes did) to eliminate distortion and keep the center of mass more centered?
Thanks guys. This is my fav RUclips channel of all.
Put "Projections" in the title please.
HTC confirmed the front cameras ARE for hand tracking in 3 dimensions - so great news there
Richard Clark hmmm cool
Prime Technophilia if the cameras can do 170 degrees it would be good..... hell even way less would be nice compared to no hand tracking ...... the question is can someone implement software as good as leap motion's orion update....... and no one is saying u would be using just hands
Prime Technophilia i think it would be ment for menu interaction. like instead of using the wands to navigate the desktop,use yours fingers as if its a virtual touchscreen
SEXCOPTER RUL www.roadtovr.com/exclusive-summoning-superpowers-designing-vr-interactions-at-a-distance/ it can be used for anything..... onece the hardware is there..... it's all up to the developers
the tracking may be very limited. But so will be the games/software for it. It will be designed around that limitation so it will not be very noticeable.
However I think the 2 cameras are also for the chaperone.
Knuckle controllers is more needed improvement right now, IMO
Thanks, your VR reviews are always excellent and you can tell you really care about the industry. I think it looks like a nice improvement and will be considering it later this year as I'm considering building another VR rig :)
Rumor for price is $350 for headset only. Kinda makes sense considering the base stations and lighthouses account for like half the price of the original vive. Really hope this is what the price is or atleast relatively close. $500 or more and you're going to alienate a lot of people. For $350 it's a insta buy for us early adopters.
Except that the quality of the Vive is garbage, so the controllers and base stations have all fried or will soon, by the time the upgrade is available.
Nope. Try $800... www.amazon.com/HTC-VIVE-Virtual-Reality-Headset-PC/dp/B07B5DN22F/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1522801767&sr=8-1&keywords=vive%2Bpro&th=1
Hahahahahahaha 🤣
Was waiting for your guys take on this!
YES! I've been waiting specifically for you guys to do this review, excellent work, well covered.
I believe HTC went with the Pro tag as the tech is not developing at a running speed yet, I believe their choices are, wait for slowly progressing tech like foveated rendering, eye tracking, better lenses etc. to improve, or ship minor (but pretty decent) upgrades at regular intervals (6mths) while making the whole system modular (awesome idea IMO).
But I also feel that Oculus aren't shying away from the high-end consumer market, they just aren't following this modular trend, so they will likely announce CV2 at Facebook Dev or Oculus Connect *with a much later scheduled release date and few details). But they tend to hold out for the slightly more advanced tech (personally I think this hurt them last time they tried it, but hey, maybe it will pay off this time)
Regardless, I am likely going to convert to HTC Vive as I have been a long time Rift supporter, but I love this modular, steady release schedule for HTC's VR gadgets. But if Oculus come out and wow me with a major all-in-one release, who knows.
One thing is for sure, thoses stereoscopic cameras could do wonders if the devs have a bit of free reign with them, augmented reality potentially, automatic object mapping, neural networks trained for object detection in VR would be fun too. Turns your cat into an in-game cat for example.
Lol, if you bought a Vive Pro you got ass fucked. 🤣
What's that you're pointing at at 12:02 ???
Could it be an IR camera for eyetracking?
Because if it is ... it actually won't require a more powerful GPU, in fact it will run better than the old Vive.
Now I realize if it is, it's not enabled right now, but if it isn't then what is it?
Awwww, I got my hopes up and everything.
It's just a light and/or distance sensor. If the headset isn't worn, the displays inside the headset will switch off.
How would eye tracking make it less resource intensive. You’re still having to render two separate images on two high resolution displays at the same time.
MrRolnicek tobii eye supposedly will have their eye tracking tech in HMD’s starting at the end on 2018 so I’m guessing oculus is going to wait it out for the gen 2 rift to get foveated rendering in 2019.
DrArgoss foveated rendering uses eye tracking so that the video card can render only the things you are looking at directly in high resolution while rendering the rest of the scene in low resolution.
Can i ask a question to the guy with the glasses.. compared to the original vive, how does the vive pro feel for you comfort wise with your glasses on? I feel like pressure on my glasses that tends to hurt my face and nose after a long period of gaming and just want to know if the new headset would help that problem in any way?
Cool demo! Thanks so much for sharing this with all of us!
Cool! Are Vive Pro pre-orders open yet? We need the Valve knuckles controllers asap. The Vive wands suck for hand presence versus Oculus touch.
If I’m getting a computer at the end of summer or fall, then should I get the newest VR system or should I wait?
Do you think i possible to modify the old Vive with new high res display?
About as possible as it is to put a new screen on a phone.
Putting a screen in a phone is quite easy actually.
The displays in the Pro should have slightly different dimensions and they will also most likely require a different mainboard..
1. Better Optics that doesn't require robot head movement to read text legibly
2. Better resolution (2k per eye preferred)
3. Wireless solution included with easy setup.
4. Include Valve's Knuckles prototype when they release.
If these conditions were met with the Vive Pro's ergonomics and 4 base stations included. I would gladly pay $1500 for this complete package.
Until then I will wait and dream.
the stereo cameras are probably for passthrough AR, given that this is intended more business then that would make the most sense (think remote assistance, local + remote meeting rooms with stand-in avatars, etc)
"hopefully by then, cryptocurrency miners go out of business" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
More like get enough money to buy the whole next gen of gpus lol
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Great to have you back, Thanks!
I guess they are backwards compatible so if you do have the pro you can still play on the regular vive games?
Are we sure we'll need an upgrade? I run an i5-7500 @ 3.4ghz stock, cheapo 8gig gtx 1070, 8 gig ram @ 2133, scores 10.1/11 in steamVR benchmark/test. I mainly play Assetto Corsa, and depending on how optimized the track is, I can crank SteamVR's Super Sampling up to 1.8 when I'm just hotlapping alone (no other cars to render), or 1.5/1.6 when in races with many cars, without dropping below 90fps or getting reprojection issues.
I suspect/hope I'll be able to just lower the SS down to about 1.2/1.3, still get some of the AA benefits, and of course the image will look crisper with the higher DPI.
Nah, they are over exaggerating the requirements. Native resolution is far easier to run than super sampling and people on anything above a 1070 are super sampling up the wazzoooo . Since some people will not longer need to SS it may actually reduce min specs.
HTC have already announced that the min specs required for the new HMD are going to be higher than the present vive.
Great Video guys. Can't wait to see the wireless adapter!!
For people wondering, it costs $799. RIP
Thats just for the Headset alone without REQUIRED basestations or controllers to be clear.
RIP X2
Did you guys got your hand on the updated version of the wand that should be with the Pro? not the Knuckles btw.
I am very new to VR, I want to get a higher quality system , with everything needed VR & computer am I looking to invest somewhere in the ball park of $2,500.00 ?? Do all the software programs work with all VR's ???
Accentuated god-rays.. Aaaahhh, why do they stick with the old lenses..
Abbrahan
I thought the Rift and the Vive both had fernel lenses
Thank you, but it was a rhetorical question.
Both Oculus and Vive lenses are pretty bad. Valve revealed new lenses over 3 months ago - that's what I'm whining about.
"PRO" - yeah, right, HTC..
Sure vive needs higher res panels as much as any.
But keeping te same lenses means this was a rushed job. There is no point in much of the resolution is blurred by the vive's lenses and their positively needlepoint of area of focus.
I don't see a point in buying this until they also change those.
Lenses are upgraded and better they just look same. These new lenses help a lot deliver more crisp and better picture with more pixels!
Anders Eismann You are the first to ever claim they have changed anything with the lenses, not one press release or review has mentioned it as far as I have managed to find and read.
If you are right then of course great.
Still suspect they will price themself out of a running.
Since we need bases and controllers, and the wands ergonomics are atrocious.
Anyhoo any more than 250$-300$ and I would certainly not consider an upgrade, and wouldn't be surprised them trying for a 450$ launch if not more.
HTC, just fucking release it already. Let me pre-order. Give us a date give us a number ! let us pre order !
No don't!. Get Pimax 8k instead. 100 degrees more fov and a higher resolution D: It's even compatible with the vive trackers and the vive controllers.
Wait! I still need to get a better computer! Fuckin crypto currency miners...
Yea, sucks at the moment Kirito, but I got my 1080 ti months ago! hahaha
ShinyTomb, no
C'ann McDonald psst.. it sucks ass.
I'm pretty sure the dual cameras do the same as last time. edge detection so you see stuff in your room, but this time with depth. I hope this can actually replace the chaperone. Image seeing more and more of "reality" as your leaving the playspace center. Walk up to your monitor, see the monitor, walk to the middle of the room and seamlessly transition back to VR.
I'm glad to see they aren't giving up on developing VR more, because I DO want VR someday. There are three main reasons I haven't adopted it yet: 1. High headset cost. 2. Steep PC hardware requirements that still may require running games on medium settings. 3. Poor headset resolution. So up to this point, #3 has been the main deal breaker. I'm willing to bite the bullet and spend the money on a headset and PC upgrades, but not if I have jagged screen door visuals and can't read the gauges on an X-Plane instrument panel or see a car 20 feet in front of me in iRacing. So I'm hopeful that the Vive Pro will solve my #3 issue. If it does, I may finally drop the cash and enter the VR world.
It's definitely worth the price if you like simulation games. I can't play a flight sim game that isn't VR anymore. X-plane 11 vr is amazing and so is DCS. But computing power isn't there yet to support the best looking headsets. PiMax 8k is the only headset that actually gives a comfortable FOV and resolution, but in order to play games with it you will need to get a time traveling delorean to go into the future and grab a graphics card that is 2 generations newer than what is available.
Nvidia Volta will be the only card capable of running this headset comfortably. But the aforementioned games may only run at 45fps on max settings on even those cards. TBF, there are games that work great on most computers when using the oculus or original vive, there are lots of them. It's just that most of them look like games made for cellphones and once again FOV on them is pretty small leading to a major neck workout when looking around.
Ya IL-2 BoS is basically just looking at black blobs in the sky rather than planes...
only when the planes are relatively far. Anyhow even with todays hmds downfalls it still makes playing WAY more fun.
even when they're close, extremely hard to ID them whether its allied or axis
buddy I have to wear glasses to legally drive..
If I can use a vive and be fine.. then anyone can.
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How come the focus isn't focused throughout, and that it gets blurrier on the peripherals?
i never bought vr and never tried it should i get this one? and does it come with the controllers or not im confused and do i need sensors
10mx10m is going to be insane
I still can't decide on the Vive or the Rift. Many people are telling me to get the Rift, but it seems like people just like the price. I don't necessarily care about that, I care about the experience. With that said, what is the best VR headset?
c0pyimitati0n Vive with the deluxe audio strap is so amazing. But be careful with your right side touchpad because it will probably get worn out and not let you click top right button.
Vive
I have tried both the Vive and the rift. I wear glasses so being able to fit them in the headset is very important. My experience with the Vive was not as comfortable as the rift. I would try both before making a purchase if possible and deciding on the comfort. The rift is also much easier to setup.
If you are prioritising cost, go for the Rift. If you are prioritising quality, go for the Vive.
The Vive is much better than the rift but if you are really price conscious it might be best to go for the Rift.
zackman23ful I wear glasses as well and I have tried the Vive and it was awesome. However it was pretty heavy and SLIGHTLY weird with my glasses.
Just a Vive vs Samsung Odyssey review for those who might find it relevant, especially for those that are thinking whether the Vive Pro has a place for them when the Odyssey is cheap and comes with the same resolution offered by the Vive Pro.
As a UK Vive owner, I took some extra steps to acquire the Samsung Odyssey after viewing the Tested video, it was tricky, but worth it at the end. (the Samsung Odyssey is not available properly in Europe for some reason)
The inside out tracking of the Odyssey is decent, and the resolution improvement over the Vive is instantly noticeable, in fact, it's almost hard to go back to Vive after looking through these. So if it's for anything like viewing videos, showing 3D environments (I use it for work showing clients designed spaces), or in sat down games the likes of Elite Dangerous or flight sim, there's nothing Vive does that can beat it in terms of image quality, built in audio by default, convenience of setup, and price.
However, for stood experience, the line of sight tracking of the controllers simply don't cut it if you're used to the freedom of the Vive controllers, the Odyssey controllers feel like plastic toys, and the LED "crown" prevents you from putting your hands close to each other, often causing detection problems when you do it. For games like Onwards, it's unplayable, your weapon hand, which is often under your chin where the pistol grip would be as if you're shouldering a gun, is almost always out of sight, causing issue as you move and rotate through space. Games such as L.A. Noire Case File, is currently not compatible, prompting an error screen on start up.
This works out to be just fine for me, as I use the Vive in the living room for real games, and the WMR Odyssey was always meant for use at the study or connected to a laptop for work. So IMO, if you're choosing a VR headset for room scale gaming purposes, right now, the Vive is still better, if it's for videos (cough), 3D space demo, or flight / driving sims, then the Odyssey would have my vote. Even with the Vive PRO on the horizon, I can still see the Odyssey being relevant after that's released due to its ease of setup and lack of tracking stations required. However, when the Vive Pro's price is announced and it isn't too ludicrous, I'll definitely be replacing my living room setup with it as the resolution boost is really worth it.
I was wondering why you guys didn't upload anything about CES. Either way, very glad you upload this to hear yalls opinions on the new Vive pro. I'm excited for it and hope it's not too expensive.
When you describe different resolutions can you please use a visual aid.
William Swankie it's kinda hard to demonstrate since the resolution in VR looks different than the same resolution on a monitor
Dude; I'm 35 years old, had a Mac since the age of 4, had a Vive since release, on line gamed in 56 kbits dial up for 2 years, now can I ask "When you describe different resolutions can you please use a visual aid." ??
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William Swankie they aren’t obligated to reply???
Any pre-orders yet?
I know right ? 1st Q is already a 1/3 done.
Will the pro come with upgraded lighthouses or ship with the current gen lighthouses that the htc vive comes with?
Welcome to 2018, Guys!
Besides comfort and release date, I see almost no reason to get this over the Pimax 8k. Higher resolution and a higher fov for nearly the same price? Like whats the point.
Cheers guys!
My most trusted reviewers. thanks guys!
I bought the Samsung Odyssey already. Should I return to get this one instead?
Great job can't wait to hear more
I took one look at the dual cameras and thought that these must be for 3D scanning: placing a physical object in a room then taking roomscale tracked stereoscopic images would allow for running software to compile the images into 3D objects and environments. This could be particularly useful for making a portable scanning station for museums, virtual tours, and recreating objects in VR or CAD programs that don't have a virtual equivalent for 3D printing.
I just wanna know the price
349.99 for HMD , full kit later.
Just kidding, I have no idea, best guess.
Still has screendoor effect and isnt 4k ? Ok lets wait for 2019 then...
RubberGently even the pimax "8k" still has the sde. Have you tried VR though? Even last gen headsets like the original vive and Oculus you barley see the sde when playing. Even when you do see it, Its not like dark lines, but more like a fabric texture.
Vatarga i played a bunch of games with the HTC vive i'm not immpressed.
RubberGently I started with the dev kits, so I find it hard to be disappointed. The pro isn't as much of an improvement as I would've liked, so I would wait before upgrading
Keep your eye on the Pimax 8k. dual 4k panels and 200 degree fov. If they can deliver, that is. If they can, it's gen 2 VR. But the demo models haven't been perfect.
I have psvr and literally the only time you notice the screen door effect is on white screens or when the GUI locks onto the camera OR when you're watching a VR video. I'm happy with my Psvr even though it has pretty bad tracking. It's "good enough"
I’m just glad you explained that the headphones are removable as that was my biggest worry with the headset.
Have you guys tried the Star Wars experiences from TheVoid yet? I tried it in Anaheim last week and it was a real blast. I'm lucky enough to be in Florida this week and am going to try it again at their Disney Springs location in Orlando!!
Peanut Turner I'm doing it next week at Disney Springs! I'm so hyped.
Heard there were still a lot of technical issues - tracking, clarity, and glitching. Hands and other people in your group not showing up where there were in real life, etc. Shame because it has such potential and untethered "4D" is truly the future of VR.
Will the knuckles-Controller be released with the Vive Pro too?
And will i be victorious in a bare knuckle fight against her?
Not enough of an upgrade to be worth spending money on.
If you try them out then you just throw the money because those are much better ;)
i just returned my vive so i can get the new one lol
I deleted the vive from my amazon cart, i can wait another month or 2 for the pros release
sephiroth x it is perfect for people just getting in instead of buying original
thats where I am. I do not have it, and would love to have a vr and if a newer version is comming out, i mine as well get that one since it will have a longer life span than the older counter part. i wont mind paying the extra cost of it, i will still be paying less for it over all compared to those who have the vive and are upgrading to the pro based on speculative costs for the new hardaware
Do glasses fit into the pro any better?
Lee yes
Yes - but they also fit in current vive easily using the side adjustors
Thanks Richard. I wasn't sure if the person that responded previously was being serious or not.
Will fallout vr still work on the vive pro?
Right now I have a dell vr headset it’s good but it doesn’t have full tracking in vr chat
i would not be surprised if it was 800$
I would buy it in a heartbeat if it was 800$. The original Vive in my country costs 1150-1200 euro...
1500 U$D in Argentina for the VIVE and 900 U$D for the basic Rift. It makes me angry when this happens, it's really unfair
Thatd have to be the max if they Go any higher even serious VR players wont buy. Id imagine 200 for wireless so 1000 for the whole thing.
i mainly said 800$ as i bought the original vive for 800$ back when it was a new thing in 2016 or so ... personally i dont know much about the economy of other countries but i can say that i would not be surprised if the vive pro with controllers and tracking stations cost about 1200$ i was only remarking at the price of just the headset .. not the whole set
Most likely that you are going to be right Ponlets, so big bad news for us non US (or normal country) VR technology interested. That just means that some of us will have to wait even more to be able to try VR. Even if I would buy the normal VIVE, its only sold with both VIVE controllers as a combo, which I don't want now that the "Knuckles" are near to be released. Even knowing that the Pro exist, as a user of the regular VIVE, would you recomend me to buy it?
noise cancelation ???? really ???? where do you use this thing ??? on a highway or near a airfield or at home where everything is quite when i play a game ?!?!?!?!?!
Its meant to filter out breathing into the mic which is an big problem with the htc vive. Most people, including myself, actually taped off the front of the headset to add some sort of pop filter to it.
because of missconstruction a built in noise cancelation ??? why a mic in a VR headset ? remove this shit :-D if anybody plays multiplayer games and wants to talk to others with VR than he/she has another microphone/ headset as well
You move in your room, meaning you will never stay near an stationary microphone for long. An seperate headset is not only annyoing to use everytime you put on or off the headset, but the cable usualy isnt very long and just gets in the way. Besides this, this headset isnt even meant for consumers (hence the 800$ pricetag), but rather for professionals, vr arcades or showfloors, which tend to be very noisy indeed.
You mentioned that on the original headset, you could pull it out. Is that for focus and is there a release button that you need to push or do you just pull it out? Thanks
it's for focus. There are two knobs on the site where the headstrap attaches that you twist to move the lenses closer or further away from your eyes.
Actually, let me correct myself. I'm not 100% sure it's for focus. it might just be for people with glasses and stuff so they can have the lenses a bit further away. I'm honestly not completely sure.
Thanks for the reply. Actually, I do wear glasses and moving it a bit farther away would be helpful. Do you just pull it off or is there a release button? Thanks Again
Thanks for your help. My BAD. I actually looked up the user manual online and you can adjust the headset. It said... If you wear large prescription glasses or have long eyelashes, you may need to increase the lens distance further from your face. Only increase this distance as necessary, as the closer the lenses are to your eyes, the better your field of view will be while wearing the headset. 1. Pull out each lens distance knob to unlock it. 2. Rotate both lens distance knobs to adjust the lens further or closer to your face. 3. After you're done adjusting, push each knob to lock it back in. I must have missed that in setup. For more information you can find the full manual at... dl4.htc.com/web_materials/Manual/Vive/Vive_User_Guide.pdf?_ga=2.27185598.2038679874.1517238157-1079112490.1517238157
Fun fact: the 2 front cameras have depth sensing capabilities. They can even replace the vive controllers by allowing your hands to be tracked.
Tracking the hands to replace controllers would have the same problem that Windows Mixed Reality has when controllers leave the view of the cameras (and those cameras would likely have a much wider tracking area)
it wouldn't even have the same problem, the problem would be much worse with bare hands and no accel/gyro etc senors.
Well when you say replaced... I think you mean alternative, because that would be an aids way of tracking.
ojl10 You all make great points. I suppose it’d be very much on a case-by-case basis. I personally would love it as an alternative option for navigating Bigscreen though. In the end, I agree. I don’t see this method replacing the controllers in every experience, I see it strengthening experiences big time though. It’d be much fun to have the controllers strapped and then let them hang when entering a car and using the steering wheel. I would also be so quick to use them to navigate User Interfaces over the controller. The day we can press logout with our bare hands will be a joyous day for us all.
I'd rather it tracked us rather than controllers, but thats something to look forward to.
Can you super sample this new unit like former HTC?
I've been backing the and have all three versions released so far also didn't get the Vive as is so close to the Rift but I do think I will be picking up one of these headsets this year
Im looking to upgrade to the pro from the normal vive is the lens flare worse or better on the pro
well, I'm guessing you're talking about what they were calling "god rays". They talk about it at 3:45. Not the best of news for you, it seems.
Darksunrise might wait for a vive 2 in 2019 or 2020
2020 more likely
HarvDaMan It's the exact same crap. Give Pimax 6 weeks to prove their headset. Backers start recieving test units mid May. This 1.5 hack wont be ready till then anyway
Pimax is a disaster so far - don't hold your breath for anything usable from them
Dang... already available for pre-order to ship in April? $799 for just the HMD alone assuming you already own a Vive setup & $1,249.47 if you want HMD, Light Houses, and Vive controllers/accessories? I'll stick to my Vive non pro edition until 4k displays are a thing for VR gear like this.
Isn't that the same proprietary cable as the rift?
Been waiting for this!
So Lighthouse 2.0 will not work with current Vive and Vive Trackers?
Егор Цебро Current Vive users can buy the new headset separately and use their existing lighthouses to use it.
Prietoh yes, but it seems that they can't buy the new tracking system and use it with the current Vive, wands and Tracker.
No, for the new lighthouses you'll need new trackers, new HMD, new controllers, etc.
1.0 devices will not work with 2.0 basestations, but 2.0 devices work with both basestations.
Love that shirt Jeremy.
Would be nice if the vive2 used usb-c as the data and power cables. They can send enough data fast enough now to only use one cable (and maybe 2 to PC) like the new cable but aren't proprietary
While I'm glad to see more improvements coming to the VR space, I can't justify bumping up to the Vive Pro from the Vive for myself. I'd need built-in wireless, greater FOV and even higher resolution first before I'm completely on board for the next step. Still the incremental improvements are great and I look forward to seeing that continue at a good pace.
Hoping there also will be a Pimax review.
Can you guys please take look at HaptX's glove? I have been reading many great things about it and would love to hear your impressions.
This is awesome. Flawless Vive tracking with the visual resolution of the Samsung Odyssey HMD.
And DDR6 is coming out and Nvidia's new line should also be out this year so better to wait for these and hopefully a full cryptocrash before buying a New GPU. And Global Foundries is skipping 10nm and going straight to 7nm so AMD could get very competitive soon.
What are the new sensors for even?
Wll have to wait for the product that launches after this variant, as this one still has screendoor effect.
Thanks guys
Now all that non-existent content will look even better!
What happened to the Fallout 4 VR review/hype? You know, the biggest game of last year, first full sized AAA VR game?? I hope it's not Oculus related, you guys seem to favour thier headset and it's strange that your 'best games of the year' were both Oculus exclusives while Fallout 4 VR (which is amazing but not without it's faults) has not been mentioned since it's release, despite being the biggest VR game of 2017.
Have I missed something or have you just completely ignored this release?
store.steampowered.com/vr/#p=0&tab=ConcurrentUsers uhuh
www.roadtovr.com/valve-reveals-steams-top-selling-vr-games-in-2017/ mhmm
Great job, Guys!
Perked up when I heard "Improved text legibility" but, (I don't know if it's just because Norm used a cellphone camera to take a picture of a screen) that text really didn't seem to get much better. Certainly not better enough to warrant a multi-hundreds of dollar purchase.
It's much better in reality - since the example pic of current vive is way worse quality than the actual headset does, then the picture of the improved vive is also worse quality than pro actually delivers. The example pic of the pro text is actually comparable to the current vive when wearing it.
They should have used a DSLR with fixed focus. And put this info into the pictures to avoid any confusion.
But what can you expect from all these youtubers nowadays.
You guys are the reason I bought the original. Might pick up this headset by itself if the price is right.
No, Valve is the reason. :-)
Please make a separate projections podcast.
I wonder if a curved display will help with peripheral vision
So my Vive has a hidden USB port? Whaaaaaaaat, how did I not know this D:
Been playing on vive since launch... but what are god rays? I’ve never noticed glare or rays during gameplay
ItsPronouncedOiler god rays are definitely there - they look kinda like a glare from the sun reflecting off glasses lenses IRL
Oh you've probably seen them depending on what you play. Get in a dark environment with a few bright white light sources, then turn so they are just off screen. The "glow" that seeps into the dark scene are these god-rays.
You know as far as the front two camera's I can see that being an augmented reality sort of thing. But honestly what I hope it is is tracking for your hands and fingers maybe even make it so you actually see your real hands in the virtual world. I just don't think another augmented reality thing is really going to wow anyone at this point.
I'm stoked to get this, but I want to wait for it to be wireless as well
Any word on the wireless testing?
All I want is a wider FOV. One that almost feels seemless. Current gen VR and even the Vive Pro still kind of have the horse blinder effect.
KyleJPie10 wait 10 years lmao