It’s not about the car it’s about how you got hit where how fast and why hits you,it doesn’t matter what you drive if it’s your time it’s your time “factuality “
I was I'm the backseat of my friends csr when a drunk driver hit us head on at 50mph, both vehicles were completely totaled and everyone in the kia walked away, my friend got a broke knee but that was the worst injury
@@spencer82rocks I guess the insurance safety institutes are just wasting money crash testing different car models if they are all the same. Agree when its you time its your time, but engineering/design and construction do make a difference
I bought a new 2019 Kia forte, bought it with only 25 miles on it last year in June, I drive 70.1 miles rounds trip to work and back home, I average 42 to 47 MPG, I fill up every Friday morning or Friday night once a week, 23 bucks to fill it, best vehicle for me so far.
@@RosesAreBlack94 I have the same forte, 2019 LXS 25,000 miles and it has held up great. Only issue I’ve had was the DRL bulb went out but I replaced it buying 2 bulbs for $7 at autozone. Replacing it was a bit tricky but hey beats paying $50 or more at the dealership. Kia overall reliability has improved so much.
Very good comparison. You can't go wrong with either. But if I was in a budget I would get the Kia. I have the soul. And it's by far the most reliable car I've ever own. 2012 to 2019 all I've done is brakes, oil change and a battery.
I have noticed the battery problem on 2011 and 2018 sorento, both failed before 2 years and were replaced by warranty. Otherwise no major problems for the 2011 and no problems for the 2018
I know everyone here is like “OMG a Kia beat the Civic this must be rigged!” but clearly none of y’all have actually been in the Forte. It just feels... better than the Civic. The Civic is a good car don’t get me wrong but AutoGuide got this one right.
i test drove civic and forte , and the forte just feels underpowered. i remember shaking my head as i was trying to enter the hiway but it had a huge delay in acceleration when i floored it
kire Tan every car is different but my forte is faster than a e90 330i and even with f30 330i. A q50 twin turbo 6 cylinder wins my car by not even much, like few feet
The main issue with the Kia is the NHTSA safety rating. If Kia had gotten that right it would have been the clear winner in the compact segment. It's an easier test than the IIHS which they did ace so I wonder what went wrong.
@1pilot2000 Oil dilution is a concern in colder climates for the Civic's 1.5t engine. Honda says it's fixed while some people say they still notice some issues. The 2.0l is supposed to be rock-solid, so it really comes down to the better CVT. I haven't seen either company criticized for their CVT, so I think both would be fine. IIIRC, the Forte has the better warranty but the Honda will most likely have better resale value.
@D Cruz Kia's? No, especially with the better warranty. This isn't a Chrysler were talking about here. Korean cars are great. My Cadenza is at 180k miles, No issues, I surpassed the warranty, never needed it.
@@TEDdotcom The reliability doesn't suck at all. Have you ever owned a Korean car? I never needed my warranty on my Cadenza, it still runs like new and I beat the living shit out of it.
@D Cruz wrong I bought a little kia rio brand new on 2013 and the only thing I done on this little thing Is to change the oil 11 times and change 1 set of tires at 95.ooo milles...only bad thing they depreciate fast ...
Anybody hating on the CVT needs to take the Forte for a test drive... I have driven both, but the CVT on the Forte is simply amazing. Don’t take my word for it, watch SavageGeese review on the Forte.
I have a 2020 Hyundai Elantra SEL and it drives GREAT ... I also have a 2018 Camry LE and the Elantra drives as nice and maybe nicer ... their new “IVT” TRANSMISSION feels great ... the entire car is super smooth and quite quiet ..... it’s just enjoyable to drive and if they depreciate so much I sure can’t see it on the used ones for sale .... that’s the reason I bought new ..... I’ve owned 7 new (I buy new) Toyota’s since 1998 and the Elantra drives nicer than any of them possibly with the exception of the 2018 Camry LE which drives equally nice but has a noisier (GDI) engine .... it’s faster than the Elantra but the Elantra is plenty fast enough for me. .... drove 20 miles to a red lobster restaurant for dinner last night ... got 46 MPG ...an amazing car with the warranty to back it up.
True. I've tested drive the Forte and Elantra. Both use the same CVT and it replicates the shifts of an auto transmission better than a Civic. Civic wins big time though when it comes for handling, confort, interior space.
The other day I noticed how many Hyundais and Kias I saw on the roads so I started counting them in a ten minute drive and counted 78! At least where I'm currently living in Alabama they are as popular if not more than the Japanese brands. Really impressive and I'd rather have them than Honda or Toyota. Dream car is a Stinger EV if they ever make it.
2002 Kia spectra I have as spare car is nothing impressive but it's only vehicle I've ever owned that never had problem. I still got it sitting in my garage in corner still running as same as it did when I got it.
Stop with the cookie cutter reviews .. we come for the jokes and laughs no matter how cheap or expensive the car. Idk who complained about the jokes and laid back vibe of auto guide but I need the old mood back please and thank you.
They’re both amazing 😉 cars 🚗 . The Honda Civic Is sporty,with a well balance chassis. It will be more fun to drive with 65,000 miles powertrain warranty,and 35,000 miles bumper to bumper warranty. The Kia Forte Is a straight forward car with great value. More standard goodies, with 100,000 miles powertrain warranty,and a 65,000 miles bumper to bumper warranty.
@@SecondSunofficial I have had it nearly 3 years with no issues. Part of the reason I bought it was it was a great value as well. For the same price, I was looking at a Civic Sport with a way less powerful engine. The GT is more similar to an SI performance wise. To be fair, the Civic has been redesigned and I have not checked out a new one.
After owning Honda's since 1984 . I have 2019 forte . Fit and finish just as good . By far the Kia CVT is better . If you drive sport mode manual properly it flys. Getting 41 mpg highway trips at 80mph and 38 mpg around town. All for less than $20,000
@Leopold "till your 100k mile warranty is over" what? Kia was literally ranked higher than Honda for reliability this year. I've owned multiple Kia cars that have gone over 200k miles with no major problems. I don't know what you have against them.
Jimmy Y well Kia is still recovering from the mass amount of engine fires on the 3rd gen optima and the sorento. Americans do love their Kia’s but everyone knows about those engines for the most part... I actually own a fully loaded 2016 optima and I love it. I’m even in a Kia Optima group chat on Facebook with thousands of memebers, and nearly everyone who owns a 3rd gen optima has had their engines replaced. Either because Kia sent them a letter letting them know their vehicles are the ones affected or their engines just went out. No joke. Oh yeah, and resale value is still bad. And some of us are suffering because of it and some taking advantage.
@@kyron2092 Then don't resell it. Pay it off and drive it until it absolutely has given all its got. By that time, you won't even care if they gave you $600 bucks for it. You've used it and it served you for a good long period of time. Unless you're the type who is always trying to "keep up with the jones" then there is no reason to resell a vehicle before its time. Keep up with the maintenance and don't drive it like a maniac. In the mean time, learn how to manage your spending and take advantage of not having anymore monthly payments after paying it off and save your money for when it's time to buy a new car, you'll be able to buy it cash. Why trade in something if it still takes you from point A to B? 🤔
I test drove both, i liked the civic but i like the fortes interior and infotainment position better. But what sold me is the warranty. I also added the bumper to bumper 10 year 100k warranty so i have no worries.
Had my Civic RS (Sports Touring) Hatch for two years this month. I flippin love this car, has a stunning 1.5 Turbo with brilliant chassis to match. Personally, the Kia doesn't come close however, here in NZ Honda gas a very low market share and Kia and Hyundai are everywhere despite them being more expensive.
Ima kia boy 100% i was expecting people to love civic in comments seeing how i see them everwhere but i was suprised people actually relise how amazing forte is hah i have 2019 modded out forte😍
painkiller619 undertaker Why? Im new to the game. I thought Kia and Hyundai has low resale value. Does your comment pertains that a 10 year Toyota and a 5 year old Kia/Hyundai has almost the same price/resale?
You shouldn’t buy any car brand new and sell it in 5 years. Leasing would make more sense then. If your not gonna keep you’re car for closer to ten years then purchasing a vehicle is not economically smart. The reasons why Hyundai/Kia give such good warranties is to offset the low resale value. Hence the reasoning of keeping a purchased vehicle for that length of time to get actual value out of it. It’s very simple, that’s not opinion based conjecture, it’s the fact of the matter.
Toyota dealership tried to convince me that Toyota's hold value better. But they never mentioned that Toyota's are thousands of dollars more than Kia's. And Kia's hold value pretty well up here in Canada. So it comes down to personal budgets and preferences. I like Kia Forte for its styling and what not. The only drawback is REAR SUSPENSION.
I went from a 2012 Cruze to The 2019 Forte and I'm beyond amazed with the Forte. The ride isn't as smooth as the Cruze considering it doesn't have independent rear suspension but other than that, the look (inside and out), the power and torque difference, the features and the MPGs are amazing. I get upwards of 40 MPGs on my way to work (in sport mode) and 30+ in the city with over a 400 mile range on about 12 gallons of gas.
I recently got a loaded 2008 Amanti, and I’m officially sold that Kia can make an amazing car. Would make me more like to consider one as a new car. That says a lot from a Honda fan.
Excellent comparison !! I like the driving dynamics of the Civic, but the Interior of the Kia looks modern. Options in the Kia like heated steering wheel, blind spot monitoring which is NOT available in the Civic , makes the Kia a good choice. It is close, probably need to drive the cars back to back to make a decision. Motor Trend has the 0-60 MPH times. Civic 6.8 sec, Kia 8.2. The Civic needs a refreshed interior.
Kia has really changed their game when it comes to producing new cars and design. However, I wish they would also change their badging. It just looks horrible. A K logo design would be really nice. In our country, the Kia delearships are selling K logo badges. I just wish they can make it official to make this car look really good.
I've always been a honda guy and our family car is still a pilot. But this time i went with the 19 forte for our secondary car instead of getting another accord or civic. The warranty is what sold us. And also cheaper than the civic.
@@That1lowaccord Forte is more stylish, who cares about speed in this class, go for a Stinger if you want speed. This class is about fuel economy. Which the Forte gets better real world fuel economy than the shitvic 🙅
1:22 "Under the hood of the Civic is the very impressive 1.5 liter engine" Very impressive? Seriously? After all the oil dilution bullshit that goes with it??
I have a 2017 civic with 316734 miles original everything just regular oil change and brakes twice and cvt transmission fluid change 4 times I drive alot and honestly I have to say it was a great buy
160K a year? 316K? Even when I was taking a cross country trip every year, that would be 10 years of driving for me. Now, it would be 50 years! Are you running drugs from Tijuana to Detroit?
@@AE86FTS the straight pipes vid I'm guessing youre referring to? The Si in that video was wearing the less grippy All Season tires while the Elantra Sport was wearing Michelin Pilot Sport, which explains the slight advantage in that particular event
Well I like a Busy' interior and a Busy' styling on the front end, and all the functions to keep one Busy' and not bored with a bland style exterior or interior of many other car models. I like the Civic a lot
The civic in the old days yeah they are reliable, but the new one not anymore, cvt trans, earthdreams, push start system, etc I notice korean cars eligant looks and classy design similar to samsung phones attractive But Ive seen korean people dont buy their own brand, they like japanese car I never tried to drove both if u dont mind the reliability, honda wins for performance, designs and features of course kia
Why didn't you compare the Honda 2 liter non-turbo to the Kia 2 liter? I bet you the Kia's engine and performance would have been better. And BTW, the Kia has an IVT, which is the best CVT type transmission on the market. In any case, the $2k difference on a car at this price point - is a BIG difference, making the Forte the clear better choice.
Jodi Lai seems to have a serious dislike for the Honda Brand and she has found either an ally or a lackey in Sebastien. I can't think of a single review she's done that doesn't do some kind of backhanded dig at Honda in some way. She starts off by saying "I'm usually quick to criticize the Honda Civic style... It's not the kind of car you want to get to stand out". She then says the Forte is like a little Stinger (a pretty aggressively styled car) and immediately about faces by saying that the Civic's to too aggro (a gaming term for aggressive). The Civic 1.5L turbo has 174 HP/162 LB-FT/36 MPG Kia's 2.0 Non-turbo has 147 HP/132 LB-FT/34 MPG... Sebastien grudgingly says "overall this LOOKS like a win for the Civic". Overall? in every aspect, the Civic does better. Jodi says "I've said it before and I'll say it again the Honda Civic has a very busy interior (although the Civic infotainment/HVAC system has 12 buttons & 3 dials while the Kia has 14 buttons and 4 dials). She and Sebastien say the word "busy" 4 more times when describing the Civic interior then once again backhandedly say "but (the Civic) does a very good job sneaking in the cheaper materials (suggesting is trying to hide how cheap their cars are, while ignoring that their statement also suggests it has mostly nice materials)". less than a minute later they acknowledge that the Kia interiors downfall is that "it ALL looks kind of cheap" finishing up with "I'd never call the Civic's interior bad but...(the cheap-looking Kia Forte's is better)". They blow through mentioning that Honda Sensing has safety 6 features (while calling one of those features "stupid") while taking their time to highlight that Kia has (only) 4 safety features (but none of them are stupid). The features the Kia is missing are "a bit of a disadvantage". They try really hard to be impartial but by actively avoiding terms like "class-leading", "Best in Class" or "segment leader' while saying that the Kia is everything you should expect in the segment and is $2000 less. If you could pay $2000 more and have the best in class everyone would do it. Autoguide please take Jodi Lai off of reviewing Honda's.
You guys should have put the Kia Forte GT turbo with a 1.6 L turbo that makes 201 HP and a 193 Ib -ft Torque l, it does not comes with the hybrid but it gives you more stuff than a Honda Civic
The engine comparison is a bit off because of the differences of trims. The LX and Sport trims horsepower is at 158 and more comparable to the Forte trims of FE, LXS, EX, and GT Line
Honda civic has nailed it, plenty of leg room, cargo room and good power but also reliable. Kia is a poor man's car, poor resale value, bad quality etc etc.
If I was looking to buy a new vehicle in this segment, I would give the Kia Forte some serious consideration. I prefer its overall styling; both exterior and interior. The asking price is significantly lower and comes with a longer standard warranty. From what I've heard in other reviews the new Kia iCVT seems to perform better than most competitors and I would expect much fewer long-term issues from the Forte's conventional multi-port, naturally aspirated engine versus the lower displacement, direct-injected, turbocharged motor in the Civic.
Yep, when the turbo fries, the honda is totally on top. Clear win for honda because of 2 MPH and a few more horses. You will pay now or pay later with a turbo in general.
If you want the cheaper car you go with KIA, how ever that does not mean it's the better car. If you want the better overall package than you go with the Civic. You have to ask yourself what you want, do you want the car that will cost less but less refined in everyday driving or do you want the better built car with the better overall package.
I havre this Kia motor in the previous model. The only way to enjoy it is with sport shift function. Other than that it feels like a dead motor next o my buddies civic.
Compact car rating usa has the mazda 3 and kia forte at the same rating which i thing is 8.7 and the civic at 8.6. Not me compact car rating not me ok.
"Honda's direct-injected 1.5L turbo 4-cyl. Earth Dreams engine is creating a nightmare for the company as it tries to resolve a severe gasoline oil-dilution problem it says is caused by cold-weather operation." (Ward's Auto, 2019) Reliability for Honda's 1.5 Turbo Earth Dreams has been sketchy, at best. China's government even implemented a forced stop-sale of this engine in the CR-V due to so many problems. Impressive engine? I don't think so. Honda's poorly-engineered piston ring design will more than likely compromise long-term longevity. Don't bother asking any service personnel at a US Honda dealership: You will likely get the proverbial runaround, a mishmash of half-truths and denial. I'll take the much nicer Forte, from a brand that backs its powertrain with a 100K warranty. KIA has a very impressive line-up of models. They have done their homework. IMHO, I also think the Forte will age better down the road. The Civic may end up looking rather silly in 5 years -- like that once-popular friend or neighbor everyone has, who has staunchly stuck with the new wave '80s or grungy '90s dress styles until today. LOL! The Forte offers a better, happier, more trouble-free future for its' owner. Go KIA!
So you’re telling me the Honda Civic which won comparisons against the highly anticipated 2020 Mazda 3 and the better than ever 2020 Corolla lost to the Kia Forte? The epitome of economy compact cars nowadays? Y’all really don’t know how to hide a glorified paid advertisement, first the Acura RDX vs Infiniti QX50 and now this..... it’s a shame what Autoguide has become.
This girl is a liar. I have the Civic and this is thr worst car ever I had.l"Like a luxury car:... what are talking about? Honda is a cheap and super noisy car. In my case it is not reliable at all.
The civic in the old days yeah they are reliable, but the new one not anymore, cvt trans, earthdreams, push start system, etc I notice korean cars eligant looks and classy design similar to samsung phones attractive But Ive seen korean people dont buy their own brand, they like japanese car
I disagree with this video in SOOO many ways! Any issue with Civic seemed to be catastrophic and sub-par! Busy interior? Busy exterior? That's for a reason, ATTENTION TO DETAIL! Civics are just more premium and substantive than Kia. Honda caters to a large demographic with the hatch, sedan, coupes; they offer everything from a base model to a type R. I'd like to see either of these cars at 100,000 miles or 200,000 miles, even with Honda's turbo. Note, this was a bold and very recent move to use a GDI turbo. Sure, there may be some oil dilution, but that's typical of GDI engines. CHANGE YOUR OIL and boom - problems detoured. A new type of oil will also hit the markets next year that will also help with dilution. Nobody mentioned RESALE VALUE! Again, let's look at resale values in 5 years of ownership. The Civic may be more expensive, but in turn you are getting comfort, reliability, safety, resale value that can't be matched. Also, this generation Civic came out about four or five years ago, a new generation should be rolling out in a few years anyway. This will help Civic maintain a position it has had and will have for years to come. Kias are good cars, Hondas are GREAT cars. The Civic has yet to meet it's match. Kelley Blue Book and Consumer Reports offer better, more accurate car information.
Why not to buy Kia: 1. cheap paint that cracks and peels 2. rust that comes through paint and chrome 3. alternators dying under 50k miles 4. Kia's warranty is a joke and finds any reason to not honor it 5. defective forward collision avoidance 6. engines seizing with no lights/sounds/warnings and leaving drivers stranded 7. headlamps/taillights/electrical components needed replacement at 50k miles 8. cars are cheap, frame is cheap, parts are cheap everything about Kia is cheap I could go on and on, but the point is: DON'T BUY KIA!! I see tons of people always praising Kia for being affordable and cheap and RELIABLE. I agree with the first two but find myself chuckling at Kia and "reliable" being in the same sentence.I get that all carmakers have their faults, but anyone that knows anything about cars, and more specifically reliable cars will not recommend a Kia/Hyundai. If you're on a budget, I get that; but the reality with buying cars like these is, yes, you pay less initially, but with the constant cost of repairs, it will equal if not surpass the cost of owning other car brands, such as Honda, Toyota, Mazda, or Ford.
Did somebody pay you to write this? Or did your ex girlfriend love Kia cars? Absolute lies. Or maybe you must be an old model(year 2000 and below) kia user.
Feels like a Honda Civic infomercial. Kia is cheaper and is generally way more willing to discount than is Honda. At this car segment pricepoint price actually matters way more than was emphasized in this video
Their both good but I believe the Honda's more expensive and will last longer due to reputation also the corrola is hard to be beat. I love my 19 corrola it might not be fast but its gets up and goes has sport mode comfortable ride, great firm steering very safe and suspension is much nicer than hyundai or kia. This is my opinion but I had a 2015 hyundai elantra which started giving me warranty issues at 44k......yea stick with the more expensive option. Sometimes when you go for cheap you'll pay more in maintenance in the long run. When you pay more for quality and an awesome reliability rating over the years its worth paying more for piece of mind. Also you get what you pay for.
The Forte beat the Civic understandable it’s 5 years old now but the Civic beat the Corolla and Mazda3 this is saying the Forte is the best compact car which it is far from the Civic and Corolla will always out sell the Forte everyday of the year and the Mazda3 is way ahead the Forte Autoguide have seemed to cater to Kia and Hyundai lately and people are catching on
Devin Yiu newsflash- everyone is saying that the new Hyundai/Kia products are great. I know it is much simpler just to believe there is some sort of bizarre conspiracy to make H/K win all these tests but- and I know this sound crazy but hear me out- maybe their new products are really that good. 🤷♂️
I drove a Hyundai Elantra as a rental car on a business trip a few weeks ago and came away satisfied with it. Solid feeling car, if a bit sluggish off the line.
Not a real fair comparison when it comes to driving Honda's are fun to drive for enthusiasts and this comes from a Toyota lover. You buy a Civic because you like the way it drives and you love tech. If reliability is your main focus then you buy a Carolla. If you want a lot of standard features and save a buck (Kia cut some coners) then buy a Forte but don't expect it to come anywhere near a Civic keep your expectations real
The simple fact that I was able to walk out of my Forte after being T-boned. In the driver's door at over 50 MPH is priceless!
It’s not about the car it’s about how you got hit where how fast and why hits you,it doesn’t matter what you drive if it’s your time it’s your time “factuality “
@@spencer82rocks I get what you're saying but the car does matter.
I was I'm the backseat of my friends csr when a drunk driver hit us head on at 50mph, both vehicles were completely totaled and everyone in the kia walked away, my friend got a broke knee but that was the worst injury
Phew
@@spencer82rocks I guess the insurance safety institutes are just wasting money crash testing different car models if they are all the same. Agree when its you time its your time, but engineering/design and construction do make a difference
I bought a new 2019 Kia forte, bought it with only 25 miles on it last year in June, I drive 70.1 miles rounds trip to work and back home, I average 42 to 47 MPG, I fill up every Friday morning or Friday night once a week, 23 bucks to fill it, best vehicle for me so far.
How is the car holding up?
@@RosesAreBlack94 I have the same forte, 2019 LXS 25,000 miles and it has held up great. Only issue I’ve had was the DRL bulb went out but I replaced it buying 2 bulbs for $7 at autozone. Replacing it was a bit tricky but hey beats paying $50 or more at the dealership. Kia overall reliability has improved so much.
It’s not $23 anymore 🤦♂️
Very good comparison. You can't go wrong with either. But if I was in a budget I would get the Kia. I have the soul. And it's by far the most reliable car I've ever own. 2012 to 2019 all I've done is brakes, oil change and a battery.
Tires?
Wow that’s what I hear everywhere else
@@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials yes the two front. The rear tires are the original.
I have noticed the battery problem on 2011 and 2018 sorento, both failed before 2 years and were replaced by warranty. Otherwise no major problems for the 2011 and no problems for the 2018
Edwin Alfredo if they are such a good brand why are some people complaining about other issues
I’d take the Kia interior with the civic exterior!
no fr
I know everyone here is like “OMG a Kia beat the Civic this must be rigged!” but clearly none of y’all have actually been in the Forte. It just feels... better than the Civic. The Civic is a good car don’t get me wrong but AutoGuide got this one right.
Bunch of delusional dumbasses that haven’t driven or been in the car, yet for some reason they think they know shit about which one is better.
i test drove civic and forte , and the forte just feels underpowered. i remember shaking my head as i was trying to enter the hiway but it had a huge delay in acceleration when i floored it
kire Tan every car is different but my forte is faster than a e90 330i and even with f30 330i. A q50 twin turbo 6 cylinder wins my car by not even much, like few feet
The main issue with the Kia is the NHTSA safety rating. If Kia had gotten that right it would have been the clear winner in the compact segment. It's an easier test than the IIHS which they did ace so I wonder what went wrong.
@1pilot2000 Oil dilution is a concern in colder climates for the Civic's 1.5t engine. Honda says it's fixed while some people say they still notice some issues. The 2.0l is supposed to be rock-solid, so it really comes down to the better CVT. I haven't seen either company criticized for their CVT, so I think both would be fine. IIIRC, the Forte has the better warranty but the Honda will most likely have better resale value.
Money seems to go further with Korean products now days.
Bill Parr wait until you try to trade it in
@D Cruz Kia's? No, especially with the better warranty. This isn't a Chrysler were talking about here. Korean cars are great. My Cadenza is at 180k miles, No issues, I surpassed the warranty, never needed it.
Reliability sucks on Korean cars.
Doesn’t matter how long that warranty is.
@@TEDdotcom The reliability doesn't suck at all. Have you ever owned a Korean car? I never needed my warranty on my Cadenza, it still runs like new and I beat the living shit out of it.
@D Cruz wrong I bought a little kia rio brand new on 2013 and the only thing I done on this little thing
Is to change the oil 11 times and change 1 set of tires at 95.ooo milles...only bad thing they depreciate fast ...
I just a Forte and quality and driving dynamics are really good. Best safety rating in the segment
Anybody hating on the CVT needs to take the Forte for a test drive... I have driven both, but the CVT on the Forte is simply amazing. Don’t take my word for it, watch SavageGeese review on the Forte.
It sucks Civic is way better than forte
And he hates everything!
@@Yondaily The Civic sucks, the Forte is much much nicer.
I have a 2020 Hyundai Elantra SEL and it drives GREAT ... I also have a 2018 Camry LE and the Elantra drives as nice and maybe nicer ... their new “IVT” TRANSMISSION feels great ... the entire car is super smooth and quite quiet ..... it’s just enjoyable to drive and if they depreciate so much I sure can’t see it on the used ones for sale .... that’s the reason I bought new ..... I’ve owned 7 new (I buy new) Toyota’s since 1998 and the Elantra drives nicer than any of them possibly with the exception of the 2018 Camry LE which drives equally nice but has a noisier (GDI) engine .... it’s faster than the Elantra but the Elantra is plenty fast enough for me. .... drove 20 miles to a red lobster restaurant for dinner last night ... got 46 MPG ...an amazing car with the warranty to back it up.
True. I've tested drive the Forte and Elantra. Both use the same CVT and it replicates the shifts of an auto transmission better than a Civic. Civic wins big time though when it comes for handling, confort, interior space.
The other day I noticed how many Hyundais and Kias I saw on the roads so I started counting them in a ten minute drive and counted 78! At least where I'm currently living in Alabama they are as popular if not more than the Japanese brands. Really impressive and I'd rather have them than Honda or Toyota. Dream car is a Stinger EV if they ever make it.
azera55555 yea I don’t think so. I barely seen any Kia or Hyundai’s. There are more Toyota’s and Lexus’s.
@@JJustinXu I said in my area. Not everywhere.
@@JJustinXu learn to read. LoL
don't they have a massive honda plant in Alabama?
Kia dealers in my area are selling the brand new 2019 fortes for less than 12k.
2002 Kia spectra I have as spare car is nothing impressive but it's only vehicle I've ever owned that never had problem. I still got it sitting in my garage in corner still running as same as it did when I got it.
Stop with the cookie cutter reviews .. we come for the jokes and laughs no matter how cheap or expensive the car. Idk who complained about the jokes and laid back vibe of auto guide but I need the old mood back please and thank you.
They’re both amazing 😉 cars 🚗 .
The Honda Civic
Is sporty,with a well balance chassis. It will be more fun to drive with 65,000 miles powertrain warranty,and 35,000 miles bumper to bumper warranty.
The Kia Forte
Is a straight forward car with great value. More standard goodies, with 100,000 miles powertrain warranty,and a 65,000 miles bumper to bumper warranty.
Both winners in my book.
That’s probably why their was no winner listed
1.5 turbo is optional engine in Civic. You need to compare 2.0 base engine between these two cars.
I picked up a 2020 Forte GT and love it. Was going to buy a Civic until I drove it.
You liked the gt better? ive driven tons of civics but not a Kia, and im looking at a 2020 Kia GT, any updates on how yours is doing?
@@SecondSunofficial I have had it nearly 3 years with no issues. Part of the reason I bought it was it was a great value as well. For the same price, I was looking at a Civic Sport with a way less powerful engine. The GT is more similar to an SI performance wise. To be fair, the Civic has been redesigned and I have not checked out a new one.
@@chrisshura4827 thanks for the quick reply!!
After owning Honda's since 1984 . I have 2019 forte . Fit and finish just as good . By far the Kia CVT is better . If you drive sport mode manual properly it flys. Getting 41 mpg highway trips at 80mph and 38 mpg around town. All for less than $20,000
For a change, get the Forte. It's just as good.
@Leopold "till your 100k mile warranty is over" what? Kia was literally ranked higher than Honda for reliability this year. I've owned multiple Kia cars that have gone over 200k miles with no major problems. I don't know what you have against them.
@@jotch4113 resale value is horrible, that's the reason.
@@kyron2092 That ain't true any more in Canada. Americans are slow to realize that Kia's are pretty reliable and last long.
Jimmy Y well Kia is still recovering from the mass amount of engine fires on the 3rd gen optima and the sorento. Americans do love their Kia’s but everyone knows about those engines for the most part...
I actually own a fully loaded 2016 optima and I love it. I’m even in a Kia Optima group chat on Facebook with thousands of memebers, and nearly everyone who owns a 3rd gen optima has had their engines replaced. Either because Kia sent them a letter letting them know their vehicles are the ones affected or their engines just went out. No joke. Oh yeah, and resale value is still bad. And some of us are suffering because of it and some taking advantage.
@@kyron2092 Then don't resell it. Pay it off and drive it until it absolutely has given all its got. By that time, you won't even care if they gave you $600 bucks for it. You've used it and it served you for a good long period of time. Unless you're the type who is always trying to "keep up with the jones" then there is no reason to resell a vehicle before its time.
Keep up with the maintenance and don't drive it like a maniac. In the mean time, learn how to manage your spending and take advantage of not having anymore monthly payments after paying it off and save your money for when it's time to buy a new car, you'll be able to buy it cash. Why trade in something if it still takes you from point A to B? 🤔
I was thinking about getting a new or used Kia Forte as my first car (young adult here), but I guess you can't go wrong with either of the two.
I test drove both, i liked the civic but i like the fortes interior and infotainment position better. But what sold me is the warranty. I also added the bumper to bumper 10 year 100k warranty so i have no worries.
U added 10 years on the Kia ?
@@rickferr1546 you realize they’ll track 200k miles now a days?
Had my Civic RS (Sports Touring) Hatch for two years this month. I flippin love this car, has a stunning 1.5 Turbo with brilliant chassis to match. Personally, the Kia doesn't come close however, here in NZ Honda gas a very low market share and Kia and Hyundai are everywhere despite them being more expensive.
Ima kia boy 100% i was expecting people to love civic in comments seeing how i see them everwhere but i was suprised people actually relise how amazing forte is hah i have 2019 modded out forte😍
When you are buying a new car buy kia or hyundai. Drive for 5 years then sell it. But if u buying a 10 yrs old car then go for toyota or honda
painkiller619 undertaker Why? Im new to the game. I thought Kia and Hyundai has low resale value. Does your comment pertains that a 10 year Toyota and a 5 year old Kia/Hyundai has almost the same price/resale?
You shouldn’t buy any car brand new and sell it in 5 years. Leasing would make more sense then. If your not gonna keep you’re car for closer to ten years then purchasing a vehicle is not economically smart. The reasons why Hyundai/Kia give such good warranties is to offset the low resale value. Hence the reasoning of keeping a purchased vehicle for that length of time to get actual value out of it. It’s very simple, that’s not opinion based conjecture, it’s the fact of the matter.
And then you have to pay for warranty for toyota or honda.
But I lasted my optima till 11years 200k miles,now just traded Seltos
I’d say the opposite way around tbh
Toyota dealership tried to convince me that Toyota's hold value better. But they never mentioned that Toyota's are thousands of dollars more than Kia's. And Kia's hold value pretty well up here in Canada. So it comes down to personal budgets and preferences.
I like Kia Forte for its styling and what not. The only drawback is REAR SUSPENSION.
I went from a 2012 Cruze to The 2019 Forte and I'm beyond amazed with the Forte. The ride isn't as smooth as the Cruze considering it doesn't have independent rear suspension but other than that, the look (inside and out), the power and torque difference, the features and the MPGs are amazing. I get upwards of 40 MPGs on my way to work (in sport mode) and 30+ in the city with over a 400 mile range on about 12 gallons of gas.
Don't forget the amazing KIA 's CVT
I recently got a loaded 2008 Amanti, and I’m officially sold that Kia can make an amazing car. Would make me more like to consider one as a new car. That says a lot from a Honda fan.
No one cares the civic is better
@@Yondaily You're getting sooo boring.
yonda ila
Someone cared to comment.
Excellent comparison !! I like the driving dynamics of the Civic, but the Interior of the Kia looks modern. Options in the Kia like heated steering wheel, blind spot monitoring which is NOT available in the Civic , makes the Kia a good choice. It is close, probably need to drive the cars back to back to make a decision. Motor Trend has the 0-60 MPH times. Civic 6.8 sec, Kia 8.2. The Civic needs a refreshed interior.
MIke White Forte get 1.6l turbo later in this year . I have Kia ceed 1.6l turbo with DCT . 152kw and 265 Nm torgue
It seems like the equipment for each trim of the Civic is different between US and European models.
bottom line,do you trust japanese or Korean quality,I'll stick to option 1
Kia has really changed their game when it comes to producing new cars and design. However, I wish they would also change their badging. It just looks horrible. A K logo design would be really nice. In our country, the Kia delearships are selling K logo badges. I just wish they can make it official to make this car look really good.
I've always been a honda guy and our family car is still a pilot. But this time i went with the 19 forte for our secondary car instead of getting another accord or civic. The warranty is what sold us. And also cheaper than the civic.
Don't get a new Civic if you're looking for reliability, look up the fuel dilution problems which will prematurely kill the cylinders
How new we talking, I am considering a 2012
@@ellisonlars9689 Hes talking about 2017+
How about the 2021 Honda City?
Just bagged my forte 2020 looks sporty recomend doing this
Forte looks better, drives better, gets better fuel economy, has more features, and has a better warranty. Kia is the clear winner.
@@That1lowaccord Forte is more stylish, who cares about speed in this class, go for a Stinger if you want speed. This class is about fuel economy. Which the Forte gets better real world fuel economy than the shitvic 🙅
@Jared Shelton: 😂🤣
@@TEDdotcom 😂
Jared Shelton the civic actually gets better fuel economy some people are reporting up to 49 mpg on the highway
@@f181234 Sorry, the Forte actually gets better fuel economy. The Forte is also more reliable too.
Civic has too much road noise
True
They improved the insulation in the 2019 model. The 2017 has indeed higher levels of road noise making it to the cabin
tried the 2020 yesterday - still heaps of road noise
The whole oil-dilution issue that's been seemingly swept under the rug would help make up my mind, though. Which is a shame.
Swept under the rug? They issued a recall for an ecu flash that diminishes the oil dilution.
For which car
Its Me the crv’s and civics
The US News and World Report review aggregate shows that the Forte has a leg up as well. It is currently rated first among compact sedans.
Consumer reports says otherwise
Kia forte has nothing to do with the Stinger. It's a totally different car
They're in the same family so some similar styling cues are mentioned. Relax.
It so ugly and unreliable civic is the Winner
1:22
"Under the hood of the Civic is the very impressive 1.5 liter engine"
Very impressive? Seriously? After all the oil dilution bullshit that goes with it??
The 2019/2020 Civics doesn’t have this issue, only the 2017-2018 models
They should've did this comparison with the forte gt
Not out yet 🤦♂️
No this is a better comparison because the 1.5l has a turbo and the Kia has a beefy 2.0l so it’s 👌
The Gt comes with a 1.6 turbo in 2020.
Nice review, both of you. I am interested in warranty mentions though for future reference.
Ed Lewis Honda’s ends at 5/50,000 for powertrain and Kia’s ends at 10 year/100,000 for powertrain.
I have a 2017 civic with 316734 miles original everything just regular oil change and brakes twice and cvt transmission fluid change 4 times I drive alot and honestly I have to say it was a great buy
Do you drive across the country every week?
@@ahmedmahay seriously, I read this and was like what?
160K a year? 316K? Even when I was taking a cross country trip every year, that would be 10 years of driving for me. Now, it would be 50 years! Are you running drugs from Tijuana to Detroit?
For real? My old 17 year old car barely hit that with everyday driving and a few trips.
Wish the Forte had more power, but I'd rather have it in this case. Looks better and the features Kia includes make it a win for me.
It does when you put it in sport mode 🔥🔥🔥
I'll be honest, nothing beats Honda in this segment, but also in the mid-size -large segment Honda takes the 👑 crown.
People keep talking about Honda's reliability yet KIA offers 10 year 100k warranty.
What's with all the hate on the Honda LaneWatch camera?!? Once you get used to it, it is incredibly useful.
Grant Newman I know I feel lane watch is far more superior than blind spot!
Should have been Forte GT vs Civic Si
Wouldnt be close, the Si is in a different league
@@NaijaBull Explain. The only way you could come to that conclusion is the LSD in the Si. But that doesn't but it in a different league.
@@AE86FTS it's basically just an Elantra Sport with a Kia badge. The Si is a better handling, faster, sportier offering than the Elantra Sport.
@@NaijaBull Well from what I have seen the Elantra and Civic were neck and neck. The Elantra was actually faster in autocross
@@AE86FTS the straight pipes vid I'm guessing youre referring to? The Si in that video was wearing the less grippy All Season tires while the Elantra Sport was wearing Michelin Pilot Sport, which explains the slight advantage in that particular event
Honda Civic is still the king of sedan 😍
Well I like a Busy' interior and a Busy' styling on the front end, and all the functions to keep one Busy' and not bored with a bland style exterior or interior of many other car models.
I like the Civic a lot
Know what’s else is busy? Kia, selling out the fortes faster than they can order them.
The civic in the old days yeah they are reliable, but the new one not anymore, cvt trans, earthdreams, push start system, etc
I notice korean cars eligant looks and classy design similar to samsung phones attractive
But Ive seen korean people dont buy their own brand, they like japanese car
I never tried to drove both if u dont mind the reliability, honda wins for performance, designs and features of course kia
Why didn't you compare the Honda 2 liter non-turbo to the Kia 2 liter? I bet you the Kia's engine and performance would have been better. And BTW, the Kia has an IVT, which is the best CVT type transmission on the market. In any case, the $2k difference on a car at this price point - is a BIG difference, making the Forte the clear better choice.
yessirrr
I have Kia Forte sport 2019
Jodi Lai seems to have a serious dislike for the Honda Brand and she has found either an ally or a lackey in Sebastien. I can't think of a single review she's done that doesn't do some kind of backhanded dig at Honda in some way. She starts off by saying "I'm usually quick to criticize the Honda Civic style... It's not the kind of car you want to get to stand out". She then says the Forte is like a little Stinger (a pretty aggressively styled car) and immediately about faces by saying that the Civic's to too aggro (a gaming term for aggressive). The Civic 1.5L turbo has 174 HP/162 LB-FT/36 MPG Kia's 2.0 Non-turbo has 147 HP/132 LB-FT/34 MPG... Sebastien grudgingly says "overall this LOOKS like a win for the Civic". Overall? in every aspect, the Civic does better. Jodi says "I've said it before and I'll say it again the Honda Civic has a very busy interior (although the Civic infotainment/HVAC system has 12 buttons & 3 dials while the Kia has 14 buttons and 4 dials). She and Sebastien say the word "busy" 4 more times when describing the Civic interior then once again backhandedly say "but (the Civic) does a very good job sneaking in the cheaper materials (suggesting is trying to hide how cheap their cars are, while ignoring that their statement also suggests it has mostly nice materials)". less than a minute later they acknowledge that the Kia interiors downfall is that "it ALL looks kind of cheap" finishing up with "I'd never call the Civic's interior bad but...(the cheap-looking Kia Forte's is better)". They blow through mentioning that Honda Sensing has safety 6 features (while calling one of those features "stupid") while taking their time to highlight that Kia has (only) 4 safety features (but none of them are stupid). The features the Kia is missing are "a bit of a disadvantage". They try really hard to be impartial but by actively avoiding terms like "class-leading", "Best in Class" or "segment leader' while saying that the Kia is everything you should expect in the segment and is $2000 less. If you could pay $2000 more and have the best in class everyone would do it. Autoguide please take Jodi Lai off of reviewing Honda's.
I have 17 forte and that car is tough
The Civic isn’t at all like a luxury car. CVT?! I used to be a Honda/Acura buyer. Now, I drive a 2019 Stinger GT2 and my wife drives the Sorento.
Kia Forte GT definitely defeats the honda civic with more powerful engine and better handling.
Say that to the si and type r😂
Nope 👎 wrong!
A bell sound should made for every time they said the word “busy.”
2019 Sales in US: Forte 95,683. Civic 325,000. That tells me everything.
You guys should have put the Kia Forte GT turbo with a 1.6 L turbo that makes 201 HP and a 193 Ib -ft Torque l, it does not comes with the hybrid but it gives you more stuff than a Honda Civic
The engine comparison is a bit off because of the differences of trims.
The LX and Sport trims horsepower is at 158 and more comparable to the Forte trims of FE, LXS, EX, and GT Line
Honda civic has nailed it, plenty of leg room, cargo room and good power but also reliable.
Kia is a poor man's car, poor resale value, bad quality etc etc.
It seems that there are way more buttons and knobs on the Kia's dashboard than in the Honda's and yet the Honda is called cluttered?
If I was looking to buy a new vehicle in this segment, I would give the Kia Forte some serious consideration. I prefer its overall styling; both exterior and interior. The asking price is significantly lower and comes with a longer standard warranty. From what I've heard in other reviews the new Kia iCVT seems to perform better than most competitors and I would expect much fewer long-term issues from the Forte's conventional multi-port, naturally aspirated engine versus the lower displacement, direct-injected, turbocharged motor in the Civic.
Can you do a Forte Vs Lamborghini video.
They have one-
I see Kia Fortes EVERYWHERE
I see Civic more than Forte’s
justen ramirez Lackey they don’t even. They sell civic sells like hot cakes
yonda ila WE are from 2 different ares though🤔
@justen ramirez Lackey: my guess is you’re in a Kia dealership
Honda Civic better
Civic any day of the week
Yep, when the turbo fries, the honda is totally on top. Clear win for honda because of 2 MPH and a few more horses. You will pay now or pay later with a turbo in general.
Forget the Forte. For the price of a Civic you can get the larger and nicer midsized Optima.
@Frontier Gaming Channel No its not.
@Frontier Gaming Channel well, u never experienced Chinese car
Yeah but Kia will never match a Honda
@@luisaaguilarmoyeda9420 u have to delete "never".
@@KoreanAir001 NEVER
Auto guide must’ve fired everybody but Jody. Can we see someone else for once? Sheesh!
justen ramirez Lackey no
exactly, always start watching because of the cars but have to stop before half over because she's so annoying
Her voice dear gods. Like a whiny high school cheerleader who cant open her mouth properly when she talks.
So.....which vehicle won? I hate comparisons where a winner isn’t announced. Only Redline reviews does it right...
If you want the cheaper car you go with KIA, how ever that does not mean it's the better car.
If you want the better overall package than you go with the Civic.
You have to ask yourself what you want, do you want the car that will cost less but less refined in everyday driving or do you want the better built car with the better overall package.
Fadic4 the Kia Forte feels just like the civic actually smoother than the civic
yonda ila yeah, that Kia Forte with the a torsion beam rear suspension is soo much smoother than an independent rear suspension.
I havre this Kia motor in the previous model. The only way to enjoy it is with sport shift function. Other than that it feels like a dead motor next o my buddies civic.
No protective cover or grille over the Kia's speaker in the trunk? Amazing "naked engineering".
Forte 100%
How is the civic coupe NOT the best looking of the bunch???
Compact car rating usa has the mazda 3 and kia forte at the same rating which i thing is 8.7 and the civic at 8.6. Not me compact car rating not me ok.
You can get the Kia Forte SX with the turbo and the seven speed DCT in a hatchback where the Civic SI only comes in as a sedan.
Civic Si comes as a coupe as well, but only manual - the way it should be :).
The si is strong enough and better than the forte
Kia forte is the best
Guys are Honda 1.5 turbo having mayor problems. I know China force Honda stop selling
Lord Commander Manny Kia has problems with Engine fire
Campare Kia Gt with 2 litre motor and it has turbo than the price would be closer and the drive much better then Honda
"Honda's direct-injected 1.5L turbo 4-cyl. Earth Dreams engine is creating a nightmare for the company as it tries to resolve a severe gasoline oil-dilution problem it says is caused by cold-weather operation." (Ward's Auto, 2019) Reliability for Honda's 1.5 Turbo Earth Dreams has been sketchy, at best. China's government even implemented a forced stop-sale of this engine in the CR-V due to so many problems. Impressive engine? I don't think so. Honda's poorly-engineered piston ring design will more than likely compromise long-term longevity. Don't bother asking any service personnel at a US Honda dealership: You will likely get the proverbial runaround, a mishmash of half-truths and denial. I'll take the much nicer Forte, from a brand that backs its powertrain with a 100K warranty. KIA has a very impressive line-up of models. They have done their homework. IMHO, I also think the Forte will age better down the road. The Civic may end up looking rather silly in 5 years -- like that once-popular friend or neighbor everyone has, who has staunchly stuck with the new wave '80s or grungy '90s dress styles until today. LOL! The Forte offers a better, happier, more trouble-free future for its' owner. Go KIA!
Craigslist Seller lol what’s ironic is The Hyundai/Kia 1.6t also has reports of oil dilution
Two evil cars...better get the lesser of the two evils.
So you’re telling me the Honda Civic which won comparisons against the highly anticipated 2020 Mazda 3 and the better than ever 2020 Corolla lost to the Kia Forte? The epitome of economy compact cars nowadays? Y’all really don’t know how to hide a glorified paid advertisement, first the Acura RDX vs Infiniti QX50 and now this..... it’s a shame what Autoguide has become.
I know right. You beat the other two best compact cars but loose to a scrub, smells fishy
acuras4ever maybe if you had been in any of these cars you’re mentioning and had driven them all, you’ve wouldn’t be talking so much shit
This girl is a liar. I have the Civic and this is thr worst car ever I had.l"Like a luxury car:... what are talking about? Honda is a cheap and super noisy car. In my case it is not reliable at all.
The civic in the old days yeah they are reliable, but the new one not anymore, cvt trans, earthdreams, push start system, etc
I notice korean cars eligant looks and classy design similar to samsung phones attractive
But Ive seen korean people dont buy their own brand, they like japanese car
Honda turbo should be racing against the Cerato GT not the base model
How did he get heating steering wheel on the forte?
Did you just review a top of the line Civic Touring vs a lower level Forte? Edit: oh, nevermind. That was before the 1.6T engine was introduced.
you bet kia's 1.6 turbo fixes all the whines about engine power. civic has nothing to say against forte/forte5 GT
What about reliability will it go up to 200000 miles
Last year im shopping for my first car i was considering this two... But by the end of the day i bought civic
How was it?
Busy? Car “critics” and “reviewers” are busy. Not in a good way.
I disagree with this video in SOOO many ways! Any issue with Civic seemed to be catastrophic and sub-par! Busy interior? Busy exterior? That's for a reason, ATTENTION TO DETAIL! Civics are just more premium and substantive than Kia. Honda caters to a large demographic with the hatch, sedan, coupes; they offer everything from a base model to a type R. I'd like to see either of these cars at 100,000 miles or 200,000 miles, even with Honda's turbo. Note, this was a bold and very recent move to use a GDI turbo. Sure, there may be some oil dilution, but that's typical of GDI engines. CHANGE YOUR OIL and boom - problems detoured. A new type of oil will also hit the markets next year that will also help with dilution. Nobody mentioned RESALE VALUE! Again, let's look at resale values in 5 years of ownership. The Civic may be more expensive, but in turn you are getting comfort, reliability, safety, resale value that can't be matched. Also, this generation Civic came out about four or five years ago, a new generation should be rolling out in a few years anyway. This will help Civic maintain a position it has had and will have for years to come. Kias are good cars, Hondas are GREAT cars. The Civic has yet to meet it's match. Kelley Blue Book and Consumer Reports offer better, more accurate car information.
Why not to buy Kia:
1. cheap paint that cracks and peels
2. rust that comes through paint and chrome
3. alternators dying under 50k miles
4. Kia's warranty is a joke and finds any reason to not honor it
5. defective forward collision avoidance
6. engines seizing with no lights/sounds/warnings and leaving drivers stranded
7. headlamps/taillights/electrical components needed replacement at 50k miles
8. cars are cheap, frame is cheap, parts are cheap everything about Kia is cheap
I could go on and on, but the point is: DON'T BUY KIA!! I see tons of
people always praising Kia for being affordable and cheap and RELIABLE. I
agree with the first two but find myself chuckling at Kia and
"reliable" being in the same sentence.I get that all carmakers have
their faults, but anyone that knows anything about cars, and more
specifically reliable cars will not recommend a Kia/Hyundai. If you're
on a budget, I get that; but the reality with buying cars like these is,
yes, you pay less initially, but with the constant cost of repairs, it
will equal if not surpass the cost of owning other car brands, such as
Honda, Toyota, Mazda, or Ford.
You must be a KIA hater from early 2000s. You might want to fact check your list again and statement.
Did somebody pay you to write this?
Or did your ex girlfriend love Kia cars?
Absolute lies.
Or maybe you must be an old model(year 2000 and below) kia user.
Feels like a Honda Civic infomercial. Kia is cheaper and is generally way more willing to discount than is Honda. At this car segment pricepoint price actually matters way more than was emphasized in this video
As a previous owner of a HEAVILY discounted Kia optima back in 2013...Depreciation almost always negates those upfront savings.
Yeah Kia is unreliable and the civic is premium
@@Yondaily Kia is not unreliable.
Stop saying Busy, you’re making me Dizzy.
Their both good but I believe the Honda's more expensive and will last longer due to reputation also the corrola is hard to be beat. I love my 19 corrola it might not be fast but its gets up and goes has sport mode comfortable ride, great firm steering very safe and suspension is much nicer than hyundai or kia. This is my opinion but I had a 2015 hyundai elantra which started giving me warranty issues at 44k......yea stick with the more expensive option. Sometimes when you go for cheap you'll pay more in maintenance in the long run. When you pay more for quality and an awesome reliability rating over the years its worth paying more for piece of mind. Also you get what you pay for.
Still buying a Civic, kias don’t last half as long, not to they retain their value aswell as Honda. Long term Honda is with more.
Forte seems more conservative, and Civic seems too busy
Ok! So the Forte interior is better?
they definitely need a vtec turbo si
Honda Civic type r and Civic is Best
The Forte beat the Civic understandable it’s 5 years old now but the Civic beat the Corolla and Mazda3 this is saying the Forte is the best compact car which it is far from the Civic and Corolla will always out sell the Forte everyday of the year and the Mazda3 is way ahead the Forte Autoguide have seemed to cater to Kia and Hyundai lately and people are catching on
Devin Yiu newsflash- everyone is saying that the new Hyundai/Kia products are great. I know it is much simpler just to believe there is some sort of bizarre conspiracy to make H/K win all these tests but- and I know this sound crazy but hear me out- maybe their new products are really that good. 🤷♂️
I drove a Hyundai Elantra as a rental car on a business trip a few weeks ago and came away satisfied with it. Solid feeling car, if a bit sluggish off the line.
Not a real fair comparison when it comes to driving Honda's are fun to drive for enthusiasts and this comes from a Toyota lover. You buy a Civic because you like the way it drives and you love tech. If reliability is your main focus then you buy a Carolla. If you want a lot of standard features and save a buck (Kia cut some coners) then buy a Forte but don't expect it to come anywhere near a Civic keep your expectations real
IRS vs. Solid rear axle!
Exactly - some morons just overlook this and get swept by their feet just because of the features.