Local grocery store closures spark concerns
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2022
- Two No Frills locations and a Loblaws are expected to be torn down in the coming years as they've become proposed sites for high rises and a transit hub. Tina Yazdani speaks to residents, and local councillors about the issues this creates.
I love how they do a news report on this but not on the fact that the proposed site for Cosburn station will destroy all of Pape Avenue and remove 20 active businesses and the apartments above them between Gowan and Gamble Avenues. A lot of those businesses are heavily depended upon by the community.
Why not have high rises build with grocery stores and other shops on ground level, including a parkade. Just because it has to be demolished, doesn’t mean forever. The first floor at street level can be easily turned into shops.
Selling grocery stores so people from China can invest in condos is obsurd
With the rich politicians helping them along. I'm ashamed to have been born on Canadian soil.
Of course, more condos. That's all Toronto is. Condos.
Ask Doug Ford why.
This is just disgusting... it's bad enough that we are seeing our country being sold out to Rich Chinese Developers but taking away buildings that we count on is just too much 😡
They should build new stores before closing the old ones. This is just bad planning.
They do.
There's a Food Basic literally 1-2 minute walk from the closing No Frills, it's going to be overcrowded at first probably but another market could spring up quickly to keep up with demand. There's also a few grocery stores reasonably close to Gerrard Square if you go south on Leslie to Lakeshore and you have a car, etc.
@@garyburr2270 You're optimistic, you obviously don't work for the government. lol
@@ddpwe5269 I think Toronto's future is pretty bleak actually - like Judge Dredd or Blade Runner sigh.
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All good then !
Local residents should decide not real stators for PROFIT SPECULATION.
Jump of 35 story highrise is a inhumane idea. Shady business deal looks like.
2030 completion means, 5 more years added, and being overbudget.
"You are all going to starve to death." - Trevor Harildstad
At least the guy gouging all of us has enough red Christmas sweaters to star in his own commercials lol
Good news though... every customer will be sent MAID brochures to help cope with food scarcity.
calm down. They plan on opening a park...the people can graze and forage there.
Won't be ready until 2030....the year of the great reset.
There should be no grocery store closures. We could do with a great deal less government.
so you want more parks, better transit, more housing but you don't want to close a grocery store and go a minute up the road to the other one to get more parks, better transit and more housing. Yep sounds like the typical whining voter. Want everything but can't explain how that will happen.
I wonder where all those "new" residents to the area will shop now?
Toronto City planning department: “Let’s create more food deserts”
The condos were bad enough. Tear down a whole block's worth of low rise restaurants, shops, pharmacies, etc - and then replace them with nothing.
there are other grocery stores within minutes of that one.
they are planning on opening another grocery store as part of the development (did you even watch the video)
if food is needed then someone will open another store. Loblaws is a huge corporation. If they see profit in building another store or a massive loss in closing this store they will build another store. Basic economics. If there is demand someone somewhere some way will create supply to fill that demand.
@@pacman3556 And where exactly will they find the land in this neighbourhood to simply "build another store"? Should they bulldoze another 50 businesses and homes on Pape Avenue to make room? Or maybe flatten some of the neighbourhood schools which currently have up to between 20-30 kids per classroom? Shall we take down the community centre then? How about Gamble playground? Please enlighten us with your deep knowledge of all the available land tracts going begging around here?
Apparently we don't need food that's local, ship it in.! Get Ford out of office !
First thing to do: closely investigate if any city councillors or the mayor have some sort of financial tie to the developers of these high-rise projects.
Who is Doug Ford for $500, Alex?
I love this area. I go to the nearby Gerrard Square, and McDonald. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
There's a diagonal foot bridge behind the Kal Tire that directly connects the No Frills lot to the Food Basic lot (aka Gerrard Square) - it's literally less than a two minute walk from each grocery store. This reporting is misleading. That's a good location for the Ontario Line, but then again that lot is legendary, Police Academy was filed there, etc. You wanted growth Toronto...there's no room for sentimentality :(
You have some screws loose if you think people are going to be able to take their cars over a foot bridge. smh
@@ddpwe5269 two minute walk.
No, Doug and Rob Ford are the subway-obsessed lunatics here. People who live in this part of East York are now set to lose all their shopping on Pape including vital drug stores, fruit markets, fast food and historic, decades-old convenience stores as well as almost all nearby grocery stores! Gerrard Square Food Basics cannot even handle the number of vehicles needing to park right now! Food Basics on Pape can barely handle the volume of its current trade (especially w reducing its cashiers for self-serve also) - and it has zero parking!! The neighbourhood, which is chock full of lower income tenants, is to be reduced to just a transit connection point? That is not growth it is obliteration. Living in East York is about to become a lot more difficult in this cold, cold country. People need to get around, yes (because it's vital we can all get to Ontario Place or the Science Centre by train!!) but we also need to be able to eat, fill prescriptions and get our families vaccinated! This is just too much - basically destroying the character of the neighbourhood so they can get a few subway stations dedicated to their names in perpetuity! Shameful.
It's not sentimentality... it's convenience... it's a huge store and best supermarket in the area. It's about being able to access something in the hood.
Food basics is garbage with poor accessibility. The entrances are difficult, and the exit to the parking lot is a bottle neck of abandoned carts and cars queued up to load groceries.
Healthy development of neighbourhood amenities needs to respect the community's needs and provide a fast turnaround (with comparable alternatives during the downtime), not completely eliminate it all for 10 years, and replace it with bougie markets that cater to the condo residents over the existing plebeians. (Us. We're the plebeians.)
It has nothing to do with sentimentality, it's about practicality. And gentrification, pure and simple.
There is so much more I could add, but I'll assume you get my point.
Literally less than a minute from my house. That's why I love this location. On one had I'm happy there'll be a subway station there on the other hand I'm not a fan of foodbasics
I'm not familiar with the Food Basics in this neighbourhood but I go to my local Food Basics often and they have very good sales.
Not to mention the jobs that will be lost.
Forcing you to shop online and to usher in the robots is what this all about
Forcing us into the 15 minute limit of travel that they will use to control us while they implement Agenda 31
It least it isn’t going to be a condo development.
Things are only going to get much worse, we are definitely going into a major recession as cost of living in going higher and so are interest rates. All I can say is don’t buy groceries at full price, stock up and shop the sale price. Over one year I can get $60 worth of PC points by shopping at Lawblaws and No Frills, that’s helpful when I’m tight on funds.
There's a diagonal foot bridge over train tracks behind the Kal Tire that directly connects the No Frills lot to the Food Basic lot (aka Gerrard Square) - it's literally less than a two minute walk from each grocery store. This CityNews report is misleading, it's no real inconvenience going to Food Basic from there.
@@garyburr2270 Wait, so you think that people are going to be able to just walk their cars through this foot bridge? You have some screws loose. Not to mention, they said Food Basics was already really busy. smh
@@ddpwe5269 What? No there are roads that can get to Gerrard Square too, why would you assume otherwise LOL, it's an even shorter drive there than walk. It's a mall with a pretty large parking lot, and there's lots of indoor parking as well.
sure you get $60 worth of PC points shopping at Loblaws but you spend a lot more on prices. If you get one PC dollar for every $10 spent on groceries then you have to spend $600 in Loblaws to get the 60 PC points. Loblaws is overpriced for $600 you may get one shopping cart full of food. And the extra $60 you are lucky to get a few items
Take that same $600 to any other store (like Food Basics or Freshco) and you can get 4 times the amount of groceries. Sure you may not get 60 PC points that will get you a few extra items but you will get 4 shopping carts worth of food compared to only one cart shopping at Loblaws. Even though you don't get PC points you still come away with far more groceries shopping at other places compared to Loblaws because Loblaws prices are way too high (example you can get a can of soup at other stores for 0.89 cents at Loblaws that same soup is $2.67- three times the cost)
@@pacman3556 I shop at No Frills 95% of the time, they give you $0.20 to $0.40 for every dollar spent on certain products. They give me point on products I buy often, i get extra point $5 for certain promotions.
shut down the grocery stores and replace them with fruit markets lol! The war against the people is really heating up.
All these councillors and "city planners" will be long gone after the mess they've created.
Yeah everybody, let's go buy meat at Loblaws for twice the price. This expense alone is gonna cost each individual $3000 more per year in a recession.
So this video is basically all blah blah blah. Come on Tina!
You clearly didn't understand the video then. Idiots everywhere. 🤡
perfect opportunity for a business owner to swoop in and make a profit. theres a silver lining to every single cloud.
Lol.
Advocates want high rises “save the trees” from those evil developers.
Here you go!
Enjoy
Sell your overpriced real estate and Move out of this crowded area.
THE RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN THIS IS AN ATTACK TO THE POOR
And they're banning guns hmmm
Middle class really
And what nobody is allowed to admit regarding food basics as an alternate is that it's HORRIBLE.
I gave up on that place 9 months after moving into the area because there were no appropriate selections for my dietary needs and the quality is awful.
It's not cheaper, either.
Food Basics is horrible.. totally agree... not to mention the whole can't take the cart to the parking lot ordeal.
John Tory. Total disaster.
All part of the world economic forum plan, grocery store will soon be online shopping, with your new CBDC currency, giving them control how much meat, dairy and vegetables can can buy , stay silent and watch it happen.
Keep buying those condos pretty soon will be ghost cities that only ghosts could afford 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣and when you die the state takes it back
Well Torontonians, you are reaping what you voted for.....lol, enjoy.
Was the 905ers not Toronto who voted for Ford. Hs can't get a look-in in Toronto proper which is why he is constantly on the attack. So transparent.
😬👈 YIKES
Trudeau said lots of jobs
This is not a federal issue
Eat bugs be happy 😊
Never. The bug part anyway. I'm always happy
All by “2030” everything is going as planned
bugs are a good source of protein. Many cultures around the world eat them. And if we in Canada don't eat them bugs can still be a good source of animal feed. Growing bugs for food takes up a tiny fraction of the space needed to grow other types of food or animal feed. Would save a ton of land so sure eat bugs and everyone can be happy.
I wonder if bugs give you diarrhea
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It's sad when they advertise new apartments and condos with having no storage, because people don't cook anymore. This is a prime example of the majority(apparently) giving the middle finger to everyone else. If the majority of people make so much money to order in all the time, why are there so many problems? Oh, right, priorities. Why feed yourself properly, when you can complain about everything else you overspend on. smh
Most of the clientele are wealthy
foreigners trying to hide their money from the gov...
they don't need to buy groceries...
they survive mainly on bubble tea
and Dad's credit card.
Yes well they did freeze prices. And this is how we save money. Thanks Loblaws 🎉🎉🎉
Blame Doug Ford not Loblaws. It is imperative that all Torontonians be able to travel to the Science Centre and Ontario Place using subways named after him and his cronies. Having affordable, neighbourhood grocery stores, nearby pharmacies, banks, convenience stores and post offices is a very, distant second to that. I mean how would you ever get there, if not by subway? No, no let's destroy a whole neighbourhood and create intractable food insecurity for generations to come. I mean it's a subway after all.
People- "boo hoo.....there are too many people on the subway we need a relief line......we need more housing to lower the cost of homes and house more people......we need more roads to move all these people........we need more park space instead of just miles of concrete"
Govt-- "we can give you all of this but we will have to remove one small grocery store. You will have to go to the other ones just up the road"
People- "boo hoo we don't want to go to other grocery stores or remove this one"
Govt-- "then we can't build all the other things you want"
People- "boo hoo but there are too many people on the subway we need a relief line......we need more housing to lower the cost of homes and house more people......we need more roads to move all these people........we need more park space instead of just miles of concrete"
Govt-- "OK if you really want that then we need to remove one small grocery store. You will have to go to the other ones just up the road"
People- "boo hoo we don't want to go to other grocery stores or remove this one"
Govt-- "if you want to keep it then we can't build"
People- "boo hoo but there are too many people on the subway we need a relief line......we need more housing to lower the cost of homes and house more people......we need more roads to move all these people........we need more park space instead of just miles of concrete"
And around and around in circles we go. People whine and complain about everything. Then they wonder why the govt is so inefficient and don't get anything done.
2030👌
No Frill's is EASILY the WORST grocery chain in Toronto! Going there only proves you don't really care about what you eat
No Frills is probably the best grocery chain where you can often buy the same groceries as you can in higher end supermarkets, but at a discount. Don't know why people shop at other supermarkets when No Frills and Food Basics generally have lower prices on so many items.
@@UzumakiNaruto_ that’s not true obviously vs. they have the cheapest good out of the grocery store chains = you’re just not very observant OR you’re not sophisticated enough to know the difference
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Anyone who's ever installed a flyer app on their smartphone can check all the supermarkets as to what deals they have each week within minutes and its rare to see those more higher end supermarket chains have lower prices than No Frills or Food Basics. Maybe on a few things week to week, but in general their prices are much higher.
If you haven't already go ahead and install a flyer app and look for yourself and then comeback and tell me which groceries at higher end stores are cheaper than No Frills or Food Basics?
@@UzumakiNaruto_ he's too sophisticated to use apps lol
there is no difference between something like a can of Campbells soup from No Fills or Loblaws. The only difference is at No Frills you can get it on sale for 0.89 cents a can compared to $2.49 a Loblaws....nearly three times the price. Box of cereal is the same no matter where you go except No Frills is $3.99 per box compared to $7.99 at Loblaws.