I disagree with the battery - that is the best part of Whoop, from my experience -- never have to take it off, just pop on the charger, and in an hour, it totally charged up again for 3 days or so, and I never have to take the band off. For other wearables, I always had to remember to take my watch off and put it on the charger. It was a drag.
I think these look nice but are seriously over priced. If you look at something like the Garmin Forerunner 255 or 265 for roughly the price of the 24 month whoop subscription for something you can use for a good few years if you want. You also have course navigation on your wrist if you want to run various routes and mix it up knowing you can follow it and do a set distance etc. each time and without going off course (hopefully). I agree with you on charging a watch for 90 mins while you are sat at home or in the office isn't losing much data, a bit of recovery and resting HR maybe. I do think this charger idea is probably the best thing about it though so that says it all in my opinion. You say the app is good and I would hope the whoop app is good as it's your only interface and your having to use another piece of even more expensive hardware (your phone) every time you even just want to quickly view any data. I like wearing a watch and although you can check the time on your phone I feel personally if you're going to wear something on your wrist can it at least tell you the time? Not for me I'm afraid, it would have to cost half the price to be worth it in my opinion but I'm sure it has its fans and that's fine.
I would rather pay for the watch, then lock in for a cheap subscription for more details. I have whoop and love it, but still think their subscription model needs a change. They would get a lot more traction if they did, i think.
The good news is they now offer a free 30 day trial…just signed up for it…you get a refurbed 4.0 to test out and then if you sign up, you get a new one….
You do get that - but through the app. You can start ‘activities” in the app such as running and it will give you a map of your location, heart rate, heart rate zone, pace etc.
It is so interesting that the charging is what you didn't like and for most it's the really awesome part because you don't have to take the band off and you get to continue recording data and when you realize it is about to die and you had a workout planned it saves the day. Maybe with a perspective shift you'll notice how amazing that part is after all.
@@MarkEllisReviews yeah I hear that, to me it's weird. I had a location where the puck stayed when not in use and then I would snap it on charge the band and place it back and plug its cord up. I felt like once i knew how long the band lasted I got in a rhythm of when I would snap the charger on even if it wasn't always way down. Just made it a routine if you will.
So if you’re not responsible enough to no lose it, do you still use wired ear buds? Because the AirPods are tiny. Do you not drive a car? Those keys are tiny. Lmao
The complaint about the charging doesn’t make any sense to me. If you want to take it off and keep it plugged into a wall, you can. As a matter of fact, that’s what I was doing at first until I learned you have the OPTION to charge it on the go.
@@fact6360 been on Reddit and a lot of ppl are giving it bad reviews I guess everyone’s diff I just want it to track my workouts sleep HR steps w/o all the smart watch tech crap I don’t need anymore🤙🏼
The Whoop band isn't recognizing the run, your phone is. Only a few of them on the list recognize an activity by default, though they claim it can "train" itself based on past activities, which means it's a Machine Learning model that you train. It's also not as great as it says. On the train home, it thought I was out for an endurance ride on my road bike, I guess due to speed and HR. The charging thing seems gimmicky, especially because I don't use my watch (Garmin Forerunner 245) when doing active exercise, and put it on the charger during that time. It was annoying in the past syncing workouts with my watch off, but Garmin does that automatically (I have a Garmin HRM-Dual connected to my cycling head unit) as of about a month ago.
I may be wrong but i think Garmin Connect does the same and its free, of course you have to purchase the watch/fitness tracker but these are cheap second hand. Leaving the Whoop on the wrist would cause rash/itchy with sweat and moisture.
Hmm. Could be interesting for people who wear mechanical watches but also want fitness measurement. For me though I'm not seeing any data that my Garmin doesn't provide and it also functions as a watch. Having a subscription payment model is the final nail in the coffin for me.
It’s nice though that you don’t have to purchase a whoop. It comes with the subscription. And when they release a new whoop, you get the next device for free
Negative. I thought the same thing until I got a whoop. It’s amazing. It’s way more pinpoint then a smart watch. And I wear it at night. My smart watch battery life is gone and is plugged in over night. So I can wear it the next day. The whoop is a different game
Rebuttable: Wearable technology. There is a bicep band and underwear that all help you wear the Whoop in different ways. Sounds very comfortable and usable.
@@LeHoser yeah I get it but how often do they release the new version of the band? One per year maybe, and also if you add up the money that you pay a year it becomes quite an expensive band, priced like an Apple watch but without a screen and other expensive hardware it has. I would not be surprised if the price of manufacturing the band itself was a fraction of the Apple watch's manufacturing price. What I'm trying to say is that if they were going to sell the band instead of having this expensive subscription model they couldn't justify the price you end up paying a year because it's a way cheaper hardware than Apple watch and you have to continue paying year by year to be able to use it, while with Apple watch you pay the price but you can use it for years without any additional costs. But I must say that their app gives you way more detailed info and they're good at marketing.
Great video and an interesting product, it kind of reminds me of the early Fitbits before they had screens. Not sure whether I want to pay a subscription though, I mean for that yearly cost you can get a smartwatch that does far more
1) there is a free trial, you have a 30 day moneyback guarantee and 2) i see the charging puck as a plus not needing to have to take the whoop off. just dont lose your stuff
@@MarkEllisReviews Man I think bro was just being nice letting you know they started doing a free trial service...and then stating his thoughts on the product objectively... maybe the dont lose your stuff wasn't necessary but 🤷♂
HI Mark, great review in general but can't say I accept your point re: charging. Not sure I see the difference between having to keep track of the unit for charging the Whoop or keeping track of the charger for charging your watch or phone?? Thanks for the review though. Has been useful making a decision.
The charger you keep in the outlet next to your bed. That little charging thing you can use everywhere and therefore you can put it somewhere after using it and forget where you put it.
Losing your charging puck is a skill issue lol. It's the best part - you never have to take off the watch. Just keep the puck in one place near a charger and you never have to think about anything else. On the flip side, my apple watch is a constant frustration because I need to find moments to take it off and charge every single day - it's unavoidable if you're ACTUALLY active and track sleep + over 30 mins of exercise per day, even if it's just walking.
I was considering the Whoop but according to The Quantified Scientist channel it’s nowhere near as accurate as an Apple Watch especially with regards to heart and sleep tracking. I’ll stick with my XIAOMI Smartband which performs better than the Whoop until I buy an Apple Watch in the near future.
The problem with the Whoop, besides charging, is the data. I wear an Apple Ultra2 and the Whoop and the Whoops data is so far off. I even tested on a Heart Rate Monitor and it was off by 60 BPM. I contacted Whoop and never heard back. Save your money.
the ultra costs $800 which would give you 3.3-4 years of Whoop, which is how long apple watches tend to last before people upgrade them. and you're always upgraded to the latest hardware when Whoop releases it. so the prices are pretty comparable.
@@tryptamigoI agree I had garmins that lasted lil over two years at about $500 a piece and a couple of aw that were upgraded after a year also aw don’t track sleep runs hr and steps accurately swims it would pause a lot very annoying just my experience
I am EXACTLY what you said in the negatives section. I have been really curious about this watch, and LOVE the low profile design, but damn, that price is much too high. A trial period might have been good to hook me, if it can prove it’s worth the money, but wow, I can’t justify those prices as a shot in the dark.
Just to add on Woop, if you take it off, it tracks you as sleeping, which is just not the way forward. It should recognize that the watch is not attached to the body. So many errors with this watch is unreal. Becoming a watch that is just for marketing purposes with little fact behind it.
I am a Marathon runner and always use Apple Watch and I see so many people using this device but most of them are not serious runners. They are more women’s who just want to lose some pounds but if you control yourself sleep right time & do right workout you don’t need this. Your body is smart enough to tell you if your are tired enough to take more rest. So I feel having Apple Watch on your wrist is enough to tell you everything
Very interesting, thanks. Let’s put aside the power users for a moment - the question for the average user is whether £200 to £300 odd per year is worth it compared to eg the Apple Watch with, say, Athlytic and AutoSleep or Training Today. From your review, it doesn’t sound like it even comes close to justifying the cost. It would be interesting for you to do that comparison though, particularly with regard to sleep. Also, at that price, it will cost you more than a decent Garmin after not very long - but with much less functionality than the Garmin for those serious users. I confess that I don’t get it!
@@AmitKumar-hm4gx yep you could. But then for an average user they could buy the Apple Watch SE for £259 and athlytic etc for a few pounds per year. If they replace it once every 3 years that’s say £100 per year. The whoop will cost you 3 times that, hence my comment….. As I said, rather than the whoop you could buy a much more powerful Garmin for the same annual price and get much better / more wide ranging functionality. Hence why I said that for the average user whoop makes little or no sense (unless you just have to have the latest toy or don’t care about money)
@@andrewdhome I understand that and I have had used WHOOP for few days now and tbh the data and analytics is simply wow!! and I am someone who loves data so for me it works though I must say the HR thing is more accuate on series 8 than on WHOOP as shown by Quantified Scientist channel - if you are more into data, that being said - WHOOP does great job as well. To me, smart watch was never the need - I did use Fitbit when they were new in the market, and WHOOP to me does the job well.
I mean it’s less than 1 dollar a day… And the “average” user will either break their apple watch and is stuck with the same hardware even tho technology changes. Meanwhile you’ll get the new hardware if whoop releases it.
Used about a two years, but now after android update it does not connecting with app. Two weeks gone and support don't gave a solution. App is updated but bug not resolved. I try search solution in google and found same problem with other phone and users spoke about terrible support with a many months no fixes
Switched from Amazon Halo to Whoop 4.0, very underwhelmed by the UI and its presentation and discouraged with the fact that the yearly subscription price is higher than buying a new device.
Whoop has a trial for one month and they do have a monthly pay plan but it is more than paying in full for one year and you are still locked in to the full 12 months of paying.
I like to be able to see my heart rate when I’m performing an activity. Whoop is not going to give me that so it would mean having a smart watch and the whoop band. I don’t see enough in whoop to justify. I only see it being truly worth it to athletes and other people with lots of disposable income.
Mine just stopped working. It is a brick. I paid the $300 up front. No phone customer service. I have emailed twice. The service is the worst. If you call or email Wahoo, they get right on it and take care of you. Whoop sucks. I'm going to contact my credit card tomorrow and see if they can apply the buyer protection. Stay away from this company.
@@janetstauffer9138 to follow up, Whoop did replace the strap after going through 3 different Whoop employees via email. Them I had to send in videos if the strap not working. The new strap is working.
I ditched the Whoop 3 weeks in. Sent it back. Absolute piece of... Every time I woke up feeling great from sleep it told me I was sh!t at sleeping. Every time it told me I had an incredible sleep, I woke up exhausted and underslept. If I sneezed, it said I did a great workout. When I worked out, it said I didn't do sh!t and needed to work out. After 3 weeks, I started spending a lot of time checking the app, paranoid that I would get lesser scores and percentages compared to the day before. In fact, so much so, that it would f!ck my day up wondering and even had me paranoid in my sleep thinking about my ERV and HR and REM. F!ck that. My life's balance got worse in the 3 weeks than before. Absolutely useless. Cost me £8 to find out that I should trust my body to tell me when things are good or not.
God I hate the Whoop app, I find it so gimmicky. Prior to the Whoop, I used a Fitbit with an arm band for about 6 months and though the app wasn't perfect, it was certainly more to the point than the Whoop app is. Right now I am thinking about refunding the Whoop but I'll give the Whoop another 2 weeks before I decide that for sure. What I want is an analytics dashboard that shows me the stats I am after in a way that is easy to understand - and _nothing_ extra. No ads for more Whoop products, no videos, no app tutorials you can't dismiss, or resources, no coaching or whatever. With the Fitbit, I could customize the home page. I could pin/remove the stats I was interested in and it didn't have any noise or clutter. I opened the app when I woke up, skimmed my sleep hours and I might even go back to sleep if I didn't get great sleep and I didn't have anything on. During the day I could check out how my heartrate was tracking throughout the day and it was very readable. The Whoop, on the other hand, is just a cluttered mess of vague interpreted read outs. It tells me how "stressed" I was rather than giving me my heartrate. When I wake up, the Whoop will take 15-20 minutes crunching my sleep data and spit it out in a format that's not quite as digestible as the Fitbit. The annoying thing is that it will crunch the sleep data and the app will appear to be doing nothing. You'll spend a while flipping through the many dashboards wondering if it's doing anything before it just pops up. I might not be the typical consumer but I simply want a health tracker that focuses on accuracy and reads out my health stats. I'm not into a digital personal trainer or vague health scores that have no explanation. The Whoop costs so much money and the app is such a let down.
Good news, they have a free trial now - for anyone else who heard about it from the XiaomaNYC brain video. I'm trying it out this month, I think it will be very insightful, although I do plan to return it after the free month.
It’s fairly inaccurate. Had it for 6months vs my Polar H10 to compare. Had variations of up to 30-50 bpm. As the whole app relies on heart monitor, such garbage in produces automatically and inevitably garbage out…
The really sad thing is that Whoop knows that there is an issue with HR accuracy, they have known since the device came out. They don't care. They are more interested in partnerships and selling merchandise.
Whoop data is not accurate. I have use it and the sleep tracker is horrible, 2h difference of the time I woke up, is just going with the HR and guessing, completely waste of money. If it worked , it would be different.
Strange review. Probably the best part of it the charger you see as negative because you lost it. But you admit you were silly for losing it. Problems I see with this is its too expensive for "normal" people. Like you state at the end it's more for people to analyse and sports people. But they have narrowed their own market with this. Good review overall 👌 its really expensive also!
@MarkEllisReviews haha its a good review! You nailed it at the end with who it's for its more pro athletes I feel. Not mere mortals like me and you. Some great camera angles by the way while you were out and about. Good direction.
30 dollars per month to get some stats you can get with a one time 30 dollar purchase of a chinese fitness band (and probably the chinese band has more metrics and features on top of that)
Just got my Whoop 4 a week ago. If you have an apple watch.......don't bother with the Whoop. All style no (additional) substance. I've got my return label already
My Fitbit gives me the similar data (sleep, RHR, etc), only costs $100, and will last 3-5 years. A whoop will cost $1000 to $1800 over that same time period. This is a no brainer. Oh and my Fitbit can actually tell me the time lol. You know like a watch does ….
Proper fitness trainers cost 18 pounds or 30 pounds a month? How much time do you expect to have with them?! Maybe this is just not realistic at all for a Norwegian.
Those in the United Kingdom, do not order one from them, they provide such a poor service on delivery, in simple they use Royal Mail who are permanently on striker, a company that could not provide their client with more superior delivery methods. Customer service, ridiculous, no interest in assisting their clients. Order a WOOP 4.0 on the 23rd November 2022 - 13th December 2022 and still not arrived, in fact it has not even left their facility. Scam in my opinion.
@@justinlim2161 I received the item, however the total time frame for delivery was approximately 1-Month, maybe slightly longer. On the actual item itself, my personal opinion is it is just a watch, Apple etc far better - opinion
@@bradleyapps2304 yeah the band is "free" but then you pay all that money to use the App... Too expensive, not worth the price. If they just sold the band without subscription around 150€ I could see a point, or make the App subscription 5-10€.
It gives you no more metrics than a decent Garmin.... and the Garmin doesnt cost you the ridiculous subscription fee for information that costs the company next to nothing to provide you.
Exactly, 100% agree with you! But you know what, without this stupid subscription model they wouldn't be able to charge that much money for a relatively cheap band. Nobody would pay 200-300€ for this when you have Apple watch at the same price. I have to admit, they're great at marketing and making their users to promote the band as they give them 1 month free for each person they bring so they have all the incentives to talk well about the band.
Found this thanks to your “Swapping to the S24” video. I like the woven look, but balk at the subscription. It’s like forcing all Apple Watch buyers to purchase Apple Fitness. It’s a “No” from me. Thanks for the content!
just set up the portable charger brick like a typical smart watch charger... leave it plugged in and take off the whoop when it needs charging. Total skill issue
I got the S8 SS, coz it was sleek and shiny. I did consider the Ultra, than though, nah, the S8 SS looks better, even though im missing out of features I proably wouldn't use anyway. A band like this would be meh, if its on your wrist, it should atleast have the time on it, ngl
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I disagree with the battery - that is the best part of Whoop, from my experience -- never have to take it off, just pop on the charger, and in an hour, it totally charged up again for 3 days or so, and I never have to take the band off. For other wearables, I always had to remember to take my watch off and put it on the charger. It was a drag.
Im going to be honest the charging set up is probably the biggest selling point for me. I hate taking off my garmin and waiting for hours to finish.
That said. 2-3 days isnt very long
I agree 100% I hate taking my Fitbit sense off this charging method seems great!
How does the whoop charge?
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Same here. I wish Apple had a magnetic puck you could drop on the Apple Watch to trickle charge during the night
I think these look nice but are seriously over priced. If you look at something like the Garmin Forerunner 255 or 265 for roughly the price of the 24 month whoop subscription for something you can use for a good few years if you want. You also have course navigation on your wrist if you want to run various routes and mix it up knowing you can follow it and do a set distance etc. each time and without going off course (hopefully).
I agree with you on charging a watch for 90 mins while you are sat at home or in the office isn't losing much data, a bit of recovery and resting HR maybe.
I do think this charger idea is probably the best thing about it though so that says it all in my opinion.
You say the app is good and I would hope the whoop app is good as it's your only interface and your having to use another piece of even more expensive hardware (your phone) every time you even just want to quickly view any data.
I like wearing a watch and although you can check the time on your phone I feel personally if you're going to wear something on your wrist can it at least tell you the time?
Not for me I'm afraid, it would have to cost half the price to be worth it in my opinion but I'm sure it has its fans and that's fine.
I would rather pay for the watch, then lock in for a cheap subscription for more details. I have whoop and love it, but still think their subscription model needs a change. They would get a lot more traction if they did, i think.
Great review. I see many comments about Whoop and this helped me understand what the device has to offer.
To much self deprecation “for someone like me” 🙄
The good news is they now offer a free 30 day trial…just signed up for it…you get a refurbed 4.0 to test out and then if you sign up, you get a new one….
Check that…you DON’T get a new one if you stay on…you keep the refurbed one (which could be new as well) that was originally sent…
Did the same, also got a "refer a friend for 1 month free" code. Can you do that for 2 months free then cancel and return watch? 🤔
Can’t say I’m tempted if it doesn’t have a screen. I love the feedback of heart rate zones etc as I’m doing a workout.
You do get that - but through the app. You can start ‘activities” in the app such as running and it will give you a map of your location, heart rate, heart rate zone, pace etc.
Thanks for the review. The subscription is a no go
It is so interesting that the charging is what you didn't like and for most it's the really awesome part because you don't have to take the band off and you get to continue recording data and when you realize it is about to die and you had a workout planned it saves the day. Maybe with a perspective shift you'll notice how amazing that part is after all.
…until you lose it.
@@MarkEllisReviews yeah I hear that, to me it's weird. I had a location where the puck stayed when not in use and then I would snap it on charge the band and place it back and plug its cord up. I felt like once i knew how long the band lasted I got in a rhythm of when I would snap the charger on even if it wasn't always way down. Just made it a routine if you will.
So if you’re not responsible enough to no lose it, do you still use wired ear buds? Because the AirPods are tiny. Do you not drive a car? Those keys are tiny. Lmao
The complaint about the charging doesn’t make any sense to me. If you want to take it off and keep it plugged into a wall, you can. As a matter of fact, that’s what I was doing at first until I learned you have the OPTION to charge it on the go.
Just got my first free month. Looking forward
Did it work out for you I’m waiting for my trial device coming in next Tuesday I hope I like it I don’t mind paying a sub if it serves my needs
@ yes really insightful. A lot of room for improvement but overall I like it
@@fact6360 been on Reddit and a lot of ppl are giving it bad reviews I guess everyone’s diff I just want it to track my workouts sleep HR steps w/o all the smart watch tech crap I don’t need anymore🤙🏼
The Whoop band isn't recognizing the run, your phone is. Only a few of them on the list recognize an activity by default, though they claim it can "train" itself based on past activities, which means it's a Machine Learning model that you train. It's also not as great as it says. On the train home, it thought I was out for an endurance ride on my road bike, I guess due to speed and HR.
The charging thing seems gimmicky, especially because I don't use my watch (Garmin Forerunner 245) when doing active exercise, and put it on the charger during that time. It was annoying in the past syncing workouts with my watch off, but Garmin does that automatically (I have a Garmin HRM-Dual connected to my cycling head unit) as of about a month ago.
Not true. My whoop started picking up my weight training. I don’t have my phone on me when I lift
This was a great review, literally had everything i needed to know. Thank you!
I may be wrong but i think Garmin Connect does the same and its free, of course you have to purchase the watch/fitness tracker but these are cheap second hand. Leaving the Whoop on the wrist would cause rash/itchy with sweat and moisture.
Hmm. Could be interesting for people who wear mechanical watches but also want fitness measurement. For me though I'm not seeing any data that my Garmin doesn't provide and it also functions as a watch. Having a subscription payment model is the final nail in the coffin for me.
Totally agree
What Garmin do you have?
@@carlsupermankent Tactix 7 pro.
That subscription fee is just unjustified given that you can get most of that info from a smart watch with no subscription.
FACTS!!!!
It’s nice though that you don’t have to purchase a whoop. It comes with the subscription. And when they release a new whoop, you get the next device for free
Negative. I thought the same thing until I got a whoop. It’s amazing. It’s way more pinpoint then a smart watch. And I wear it at night. My smart watch battery life is gone and is plugged in over night. So I can wear it the next day. The whoop is a different game
Rebuttable: Wearable technology. There is a bicep band and underwear that all help you wear the Whoop in different ways. Sounds very comfortable and usable.
@@LeHoser yeah I get it but how often do they release the new version of the band?
One per year maybe, and also if you add up the money that you pay a year it becomes quite an expensive band, priced like an Apple watch but without a screen and other expensive hardware it has.
I would not be surprised if the price of manufacturing the band itself was a fraction of the Apple watch's manufacturing price.
What I'm trying to say is that if they were going to sell the band instead of having this expensive subscription model they couldn't justify the price you end up paying a year because it's a way cheaper hardware than Apple watch and you have to continue paying year by year to be able to use it, while with Apple watch you pay the price but you can use it for years without any additional costs.
But I must say that their app gives you way more detailed info and they're good at marketing.
I like the idea but think the price is well out for what would be a gimmick for me.
Totally agree. I can’t see this being something that is worth having for the price and the contract length.
Great video and an interesting product, it kind of reminds me of the early Fitbits before they had screens. Not sure whether I want to pay a subscription though, I mean for that yearly cost you can get a smartwatch that does far more
Not as in-depth though unfortunately
Great review. Thanks. Disagree on the charging. It is the #1 selling feature for me!
Does the whoop work well for those that work a night shift? Or does it think that you’re not sleeping at all during the night?
I am thinking about getting one of these, mostly because I can use it on my bicep and want to use a real watch and not a fitness watch.
how does it feel on your biceps while sleeping tho
Great review, but did I miss where you talked about whether it was comfortable to wear during sleep?
Looks like they do 1 month trials now. Just ordered mine, will try it to see what the fuss is all about.
1) there is a free trial, you have a 30 day moneyback guarantee and 2) i see the charging puck as a plus not needing to have to take the whoop off. just dont lose your stuff
Well that told me, didn’t it.
@@MarkEllisReviews wasn't trying to "tell you" anything just giving information. do what you'd like with it.
@@thatdudedez6751 well this has been a jolly exchange, hasn’t it.
@@MarkEllisReviews Man I think bro was just being nice letting you know they started doing a free trial service...and then stating his thoughts on the product objectively... maybe the dont lose your stuff wasn't necessary but 🤷♂
I liked it most because I can wear it with my Oris.
HI Mark, great review in general but can't say I accept your point re: charging. Not sure I see the difference between having to keep track of the unit for charging the Whoop or keeping track of the charger for charging your watch or phone?? Thanks for the review though. Has been useful making a decision.
The charger you keep in the outlet next to your bed. That little charging thing you can use everywhere and therefore you can put it somewhere after using it and forget where you put it.
They made a monthly free trial
Leave the puck on the charger cord it’ll be just like the Apple Watch charger.
I am parent with a young child. This whoop would probably stress me out as my sleep is disturbed every night 😂
Losing your charging puck is a skill issue lol. It's the best part - you never have to take off the watch. Just keep the puck in one place near a charger and you never have to think about anything else. On the flip side, my apple watch is a constant frustration because I need to find moments to take it off and charge every single day - it's unavoidable if you're ACTUALLY active and track sleep + over 30 mins of exercise per day, even if it's just walking.
I was considering the Whoop but according to The Quantified Scientist channel it’s nowhere near as accurate as an Apple Watch especially with regards to heart and sleep tracking. I’ll stick with my XIAOMI Smartband which performs better than the Whoop until I buy an Apple Watch in the near future.
Does the Apple Watch whoop the Whoop's rear end?
The problem with the Whoop, besides charging, is the data. I wear an Apple Ultra2 and the Whoop and the Whoops data is so far off. I even tested on a Heart Rate Monitor and it was off by 60 BPM. I contacted Whoop and never heard back. Save your money.
Subscription makes it a no for me and I want a screen. I’ll stick with my Ultra.
the ultra costs $800 which would give you 3.3-4 years of Whoop, which is how long apple watches tend to last before people upgrade them. and you're always upgraded to the latest hardware when Whoop releases it. so the prices are pretty comparable.
@@tryptamigothing is apple watch is more than simply a health tracker. so the 800 is pretty justified compared to Whoops price
@@tryptamigoI agree I had garmins that lasted lil over two years at about $500 a piece and a couple of aw that were upgraded after a year also aw don’t track sleep runs hr and steps accurately swims it would pause a lot very annoying just my experience
The app should have a tracking feature, for the wrist tech & the puck! Easy
I love metrics, but not at those prices and definitely not locked in for a year.
Does whoop records all date in an internal memory and after transfer to the APP, or Do I have to be connected all the time to my phone?
I am EXACTLY what you said in the negatives section. I have been really curious about this watch, and LOVE the low profile design, but damn, that price is much too high. A trial period might have been good to hook me, if it can prove it’s worth the money, but wow, I can’t justify those prices as a shot in the dark.
Do you know, the simple step counter will do for me
Does it record steps and does it have GPS ?
Nope
They need to lower the subscription to say 100 a year not 230… there asking for way to much
Just to add on Woop, if you take it off, it tracks you as sleeping, which is just not the way forward. It should recognize that the watch is not attached to the body. So many errors with this watch is unreal. Becoming a watch that is just for marketing purposes with little fact behind it.
i really love my whoop and the fact that it doesnt have a screen.
what if I want to listen to music and keep track of my health condition at the same time. WHOOP can't do that but Apple watch can.
My interest evaporated when I heard "subscription" .
I see Manchester, I subscribe. Great work! Might get one of these.
Subscription based watch!
Good luck! Whoop whoop landfill!
I remember my first drink.
Can someone tell me if you have to tell the whoop band that and which activity you are doing rn or if it just assumes you are doing sports right now?
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I am a Marathon runner and always use Apple Watch and I see so many people using this device but most of them are not serious runners. They are more women’s who just want to lose some pounds but if you control yourself sleep right time & do right workout you don’t need this. Your body is smart enough to tell you if your are tired enough to take more rest. So I feel having Apple Watch on your wrist is enough to tell you everything
Very interesting, thanks. Let’s put aside the power users for a moment - the question for the average user is whether £200 to £300 odd per year is worth it compared to eg the Apple Watch with, say, Athlytic and AutoSleep or Training Today. From your review, it doesn’t sound like it even comes close to justifying the cost. It would be interesting for you to do that comparison though, particularly with regard to sleep.
Also, at that price, it will cost you more than a decent Garmin after not very long - but with much less functionality than the Garmin for those serious users. I confess that I don’t get it!
well then you can always switch to a new product if WHOOP releases one something that you cannot with other products without buying them
@@AmitKumar-hm4gx yep you could. But then for an average user they could buy the Apple Watch SE for £259 and athlytic etc for a few pounds per year. If they replace it once every 3 years that’s say £100 per year. The whoop will cost you 3 times that, hence my comment…..
As I said, rather than the whoop you could buy a much more powerful Garmin for the same annual price and get much better / more wide ranging functionality.
Hence why I said that for the average user whoop makes little or no sense (unless you just have to have the latest toy or don’t care about money)
@@andrewdhome I understand that and I have had used WHOOP for few days now and tbh the data and analytics is simply wow!! and I am someone who loves data so for me it works though I must say the HR thing is more accuate on series 8 than on WHOOP as shown by Quantified Scientist channel - if you are more into data, that being said - WHOOP does great job as well. To me, smart watch was never the need - I did use Fitbit when they were new in the market, and WHOOP to me does the job well.
battery life - 3-4 days
I mean it’s less than 1 dollar a day… And the “average” user will either break their apple watch and is stuck with the same hardware even tho technology changes. Meanwhile you’ll get the new hardware if whoop releases it.
Looks like a cool device but i’m not paying a subscription for a device that basically does what a FitBit, AppleWatch, etc. does
The charger argument makes no sense. If youre scared youll lose it, just charge it at home or with the charger plugged in
Used about a two years, but now after android update it does not connecting with app. Two weeks gone and support don't gave a solution. App is updated but bug not resolved. I try search solution in google and found same problem with other phone and users spoke about terrible support with a many months no fixes
Switched from Amazon Halo to Whoop 4.0, very underwhelmed by the UI and its presentation and discouraged with the fact that the yearly subscription price is higher than buying a new device.
Pretty sure whoop has had monthly and trial for 9 months or more at least?
Whoop has a trial for one month and they do have a monthly pay plan but it is more than paying in full for one year and you are still locked in to the full 12 months of paying.
I really wanted one of these until I heard there is a subscription.
18 quid a month is ridiculous.
Just so I don't have to subscribe to the whoop, what time should we go to bed?
Earlier
I like to be able to see my heart rate when I’m performing an activity. Whoop is not going to give me that so it would mean having a smart watch and the whoop band. I don’t see enough in whoop to justify. I only see it being truly worth it to athletes and other people with lots of disposable income.
Mine just stopped working. It is a brick. I paid the $300 up front. No phone customer service. I have emailed twice. The service is the worst. If you call or email Wahoo, they get right on it and take care of you. Whoop sucks. I'm going to contact my credit card tomorrow and see if they can apply the buyer protection. Stay away from this company.
Hmm
@@janetstauffer9138 to follow up, Whoop did replace the strap after going through 3 different
Whoop employees via email. Them I had to send in videos if the strap not working. The new strap is working.
@@AlessandroVolta1 I had to shame them on their social media to get a response, the worst customer service I have ever experienced.
Crazy comment in my head to hear someone say they shouldn’t have to worry about losing something they need.
Don’t listen to those voices in your head.
Can it work without membership?
Nope.
Every company's goal is to convince you that you need something which you don't actually need. Whoop is failing at this in my opinion.
I ditched the Whoop 3 weeks in. Sent it back. Absolute piece of...
Every time I woke up feeling great from sleep it told me I was sh!t at sleeping.
Every time it told me I had an incredible sleep, I woke up exhausted and underslept.
If I sneezed, it said I did a great workout. When I worked out, it said I didn't do sh!t and needed to work out.
After 3 weeks, I started spending a lot of time checking the app, paranoid that I would get lesser scores and percentages compared to the day before. In fact, so much so, that it would f!ck my day up wondering and even had me paranoid in my sleep thinking about my ERV and HR and REM.
F!ck that. My life's balance got worse in the 3 weeks than before.
Absolutely useless.
Cost me £8 to find out that I should trust my body to tell me when things are good or not.
I would get it if it was 10 a month, not 30
Buy two of them one can stay charged the other one can be charging and a as you pointed out don’t lose the damn thing that’s a responsible
My sleep was transformed by using the autosleep app with my Apple Watch….and it didn’t cost me 20 squid a month for 2 years…
God I hate the Whoop app, I find it so gimmicky. Prior to the Whoop, I used a Fitbit with an arm band for about 6 months and though the app wasn't perfect, it was certainly more to the point than the Whoop app is.
Right now I am thinking about refunding the Whoop but I'll give the Whoop another 2 weeks before I decide that for sure.
What I want is an analytics dashboard that shows me the stats I am after in a way that is easy to understand - and _nothing_ extra. No ads for more Whoop products, no videos, no app tutorials you can't dismiss, or resources, no coaching or whatever.
With the Fitbit, I could customize the home page. I could pin/remove the stats I was interested in and it didn't have any noise or clutter. I opened the app when I woke up, skimmed my sleep hours and I might even go back to sleep if I didn't get great sleep and I didn't have anything on. During the day I could check out how my heartrate was tracking throughout the day and it was very readable.
The Whoop, on the other hand, is just a cluttered mess of vague interpreted read outs. It tells me how "stressed" I was rather than giving me my heartrate.
When I wake up, the Whoop will take 15-20 minutes crunching my sleep data and spit it out in a format that's not quite as digestible as the Fitbit. The annoying thing is that it will crunch the sleep data and the app will appear to be doing nothing. You'll spend a while flipping through the many dashboards wondering if it's doing anything before it just pops up.
I might not be the typical consumer but I simply want a health tracker that focuses on accuracy and reads out my health stats. I'm not into a digital personal trainer or vague health scores that have no explanation.
The Whoop costs so much money and the app is such a let down.
More than my gym membership for a subscription... No thanks I'll stick to Garmin
Good news, they have a free trial now - for anyone else who heard about it from the XiaomaNYC brain video. I'm trying it out this month, I think it will be very insightful, although I do plan to return it after the free month.
I stick with my Apple Watch Ultra least I don’t have to pay outrageous amount on subscription
It’s fairly inaccurate. Had it for 6months vs my Polar H10 to compare. Had variations of up to 30-50 bpm. As the whole app relies on heart monitor, such garbage in produces automatically and inevitably garbage out…
If only Polar did a Whoop, I'd be in.
The really sad thing is that Whoop knows that there is an issue with HR accuracy, they have known since the device came out. They don't care. They are more interested in partnerships and selling merchandise.
I will stick to my samsung Classic watch 4 , with no subscription, looks a little boring
They should drop the price to 15.00 per month.
Hi Mark, great video. You based in Brum?
Whoop data is not accurate. I have use it and the sleep tracker is horrible, 2h difference of the time I woke up, is just going with the HR and guessing, completely waste of money. If it worked , it would be different.
I'm more of a Christian Horner man myself.
Manchester. Nice one.
After 3 weeks. I like and don't like...don't like, must be connected to wifi for it it update.
The subscription in this day and age is where this will fail.
It’s more than some gym memberships 🤔
Strange review. Probably the best part of it the charger you see as negative because you lost it. But you admit you were silly for losing it. Problems I see with this is its too expensive for "normal" people. Like you state at the end it's more for people to analyse and sports people. But they have narrowed their own market with this. Good review overall 👌 its really expensive also!
Glad you enjoyed the charger bit. I excel at strange reviews.
@MarkEllisReviews haha its a good review! You nailed it at the end with who it's for its more pro athletes I feel. Not mere mortals like me and you. Some great camera angles by the way while you were out and about. Good direction.
Where on earth personal trainer costs similarly like Whoop 😂? Where I’m coming from, a personal trainer costs €80-€150 per hour.
30 dollars per month to get some stats you can get with a one time 30 dollar purchase of a chinese fitness band (and probably the chinese band has more metrics and features on top of that)
Just got my Whoop 4 a week ago. If you have an apple watch.......don't bother with the Whoop. All style no (additional) substance. I've got my return label already
Wait, it costs 300 for the band? Then we have to pay for a subscription to use it????
My Fitbit gives me the similar data (sleep, RHR, etc), only costs $100, and will last 3-5 years. A whoop will cost $1000 to $1800 over that same time period. This is a no brainer.
Oh and my Fitbit can actually tell me the time lol. You know like a watch does ….
Proper fitness trainers cost 18 pounds or 30 pounds a month? How much time do you expect to have with them?! Maybe this is just not realistic at all for a Norwegian.
Those in the United Kingdom, do not order one from them, they provide such a poor service on delivery, in simple they use Royal Mail who are permanently on striker, a company that could not provide their client with more superior delivery methods. Customer service, ridiculous, no interest in assisting their clients. Order a WOOP 4.0 on the 23rd November 2022 - 13th December 2022 and still not arrived, in fact it has not even left their facility. Scam in my opinion.
Hello, was just wondering if you have received it yet. Actually thinking of getting one but looking at the comments customer service seems to be poor.
@@justinlim2161 I received the item, however the total time frame for delivery was approximately 1-Month, maybe slightly longer. On the actual item itself, my personal opinion is it is just a watch, Apple etc far better - opinion
Whoop does nothing that my Garmin Eduro 2 watch won’t do. Hard pass
Priced terribly, I'm totally gunna ask them for the $0 Whoop 4.0 discount. Fingers Crossed!
can you bring whoop into a sauna?
What I take from this… I’m like Toto! 🤜🤛
Expensive no-screen band with additional paid subscription? Somewhat silly.
Band is free lol
@@bradleyapps2304 yeah the band is "free" but then you pay all that money to use the App...
Too expensive, not worth the price. If they just sold the band without subscription around 150€ I could see a point, or make the App subscription 5-10€.
It gives you no more metrics than a decent Garmin.... and the Garmin doesnt cost you the ridiculous subscription fee for information that costs the company next to nothing to provide you.
Exactly, 100% agree with you!
But you know what, without this stupid subscription model they wouldn't be able to charge that much money for a relatively cheap band. Nobody would pay 200-300€ for this when you have Apple watch at the same price.
I have to admit, they're great at marketing and making their users to promote the band as they give them 1 month free for each person they bring so they have all the incentives to talk well about the band.
Found this thanks to your “Swapping to the S24” video.
I like the woven look, but balk at the subscription. It’s like forcing all Apple Watch buyers to purchase Apple Fitness. It’s a “No” from me.
Thanks for the content!
I bought a whoop and no longer need my gym membership or have to pay a personal trainer (as it has both). Saving my a whooping €170 a month!!!😊
I didn't know that it provides you with a personal gym.
I can get the personal trainer, but not needing a gym, come on man don't make me laugh 😅
I'm sick and tired of getting locked into subscriptions constantly from all these companies. They can suck it.
just set up the portable charger brick like a typical smart watch charger... leave it plugged in and take off the whoop when it needs charging. Total skill issue
I see people wear it on their upper arm does that actually work
I very much doubt it.
I got the S8 SS, coz it was sleek and shiny.
I did consider the Ultra, than though, nah, the S8 SS looks better, even though im missing out of features I proably wouldn't use anyway.
A band like this would be meh, if its on your wrist, it should atleast have the time on it, ngl
Lol. You need an AirTag for your Whoop charging puck if Apple made a small one
That’s a great idea!