Bought mine at Best Buy on Black Friday for 199 and had 50 in rewards so I just paid 150 for a full year which averages 12-13 a month but I own it instead of paying them monthly now. I might not renew it this November unless a better one comes out.
Basically, what you pay for with WHOOP is the subscription for the accurate technology itself, the band is just a freebie. Also, like Oliur said in the video, WHOOP is more focused in fitness, so if you are not into fitness (moderate-hardcore), it may not just be for you. I would instead also recommend the ring or apple watch to you if you are not a fitness-first person.
whoop is insanely detailed. It's almost overwhelming how much it tracks and how much info you get from it. Was super useful to me as a college athlete, but since then it just feels way over the top.
What is cool about the whoop over any device is it is all based on strain. As an example, if I sat at my desk all day my whoop would say my strain is low and to get out there and walk, run or whatever I wanted to do. If I dont even start an activity but work hard in the warehouse all day my heart rate goes up and gives me credit for strain. It takes that automatically as basically a workout. Unless you start your Garmin as a work out while let’s say working a job all it will do is drain your body battery and not give you any load. The other day just for the heck of it I decided to put my watch on cardio on my Garmin and do my normal work activities while working and in 2 hours gave me load of 100. If I wouldn’t have started the workout it would have done nothing but drain my body battery and gave me steps for the day. My whoop counted it all automatically.
This whole "buy a physical product and than pay extra for a subscription model" is an entire scam. So I am basically investing in a company, and I am at their mercy when it comes to pricing. Because if they change the pricing and I don't want to use the service anymore, I am stuck with a +200$ investment. I'd never buy such a product.
@@Greenam85you buy the oura plus subscription you don’t buy the whoop but pay for a ridiculous subscription you buy the UH w zero subscription so that’s a better deal make sense
That questionnaire is so important at the start for whoop coz end of week or month it will give you a detailed report using those questionnaire answers
Amazing video. Been wondering how accurate a tracking ring could be compared to other devices and I'm pleasantly surprised! Just a note about you having trouble sleeping 9 hours, that's not a bad thing!! Average adults require between 7:30 and 8 hours of sleep to reach optimal form when everything else (exercise and nutrition) is, again, average. The fact you managed to reach 7 hours so consistently with the life and schedule you have is already very impressive imo
So ultrahuman is the way to go. Thanks ! I really wanted an Oura ring but I refuse to pay monthly for something right now. I’m trying to down size and cannot afford that life style right now.
This was an epic video. Loved how you put everything together. You even answered the question I had at the end about what's the best combo depending on your lifestyle. Thanks Oliur
I don't care how good the Whoop band is. I'm not paying a subscription for my health data. There are plenty of good options out there that don't paywall your health data.
The app Athyltic on the Watch is very similar to the whoop app. It isn't quite as good but it still gives you tons more insight. I do wish the whoop would pull in data straight from the health app so you could use the watch as an alternative.
@@Grumpyoldman666 if you pay for fitness apps that’s on you there’s 0 need to do so there tons of free information online there’s nothing a fitness app can provide that isn’t available for free elsewhere.
I have worn an Apple Watch since launch. I have worn a Whoop since 2017. I also use a Polar H10 chest strap and tried an Oura Ring. I view the Polar H10 to be the most accurate and have calibrated it at a sports medicine center. The closest device for activity tracking is the Apple Watch without question. It is virtually equivalent to my Polar H10. I find the Apple Watch far more confortable. However, the Apple Watch does not have well developed recovery tracking because it does not measure HRV automatically. The Whoop is great for sleep and recovery but absolutely terrible for activity tracking. It has the lowest correlation to the Polar H10. The Ring is great for tracking sleep and recovery. It actually was better at tracking activity than the Whoop. Ideally, I would have Apple but Whoop so that the algorithms/software that make Whoop great, could leverage the Apple Watch’s data tracking. This video was helpful but makes me think I should cancel my Whoop and stick with the Apple Watch…
I canceled my Whoop 4 and continued with my Apple Watch Ultra, I now also use the Oura Ring 4. WHOOP isn't all that accurate for heart rate and sleep stages data. I'm considering getting a Polar H10 or Polar Verity Sense. H10 is slightly more accurate for heart rate, but the Verity Sense is more comfortable to wear.
So glad I came across this video, I've been looking for a ring sleep and recovery tracker that DO NOT have a monthly subscription. The ring covers literally everything I was looking for.
Started training recently and switched to Whoop. I love that I can wear it on my arm. During lifting or kettlebell exercises, having something on your hand or wrist is problematic.
15:33 On calories. Be sure to check your weight is accurate and your using a proper heart rate monitor. I use a polar hear rate monitor paired to the watch directly and the calorie counting is far better for workouts especially runs and HIT. This is likely because the watch samples heart rates at a lower rate. It can be as bad as every 5 seconds whereas polar can get multiple readings per second.
had the same opinion on calorin tracking for workouts with my normal Apple watch, but for nearly a year I have used the apple watch ultra and it looks way more correct with this one.
I use a garmin instinct 2. I’ve had an apple watch (twice, different models) and oura ring. Settled on the garmin. Best blend of all the stats tracking / sleep / HR / body battery / stress levels / recovery status
3 days before I got my whoop, Its amazing but subscription model is wried, anyway! I feel like everyone talking about whoop on internet! I think Whoop marketing team is working really hard!
I'd have loved it if Oliur had used the Athlytic App in Conjuntion with the Apple Watch and maybe have thrown in a Garmin Fenix into the mix as that thing is amazing for fitness!!
When sleeping I find it more comfortable to have the whoop band on the inside of my wrist. You could also get an extra strap and wear it on your ankle. The sensor can be anywhere as long as it's pressed securely against your skin. Changing locations is good to give your skin a break.
Great video! I have personally started with the OURA ring which I've used for about 18 months. It started bothering me at night as I often have my hand under the pillow and it started to create too much pressure and I woke up frequently. My second purchase was the Whoop band... super comfortable also at night but significantly different in sleep tracking results compared to the OURA ring. Sleep tracking was my main objective so I find it confusing that the results can be that much different. With the OURA ring it is pretty much impossible to get a rating above 95 vs. the Whoop band gives you 100% quite easily, which is also the reason why so many influencers brag about their great sleeping results with that band :) I certainly did not like the monthly fee with OURA and after I have learned what I could learn with it I stopped my subscription and sold the ring. The Whoop band is even more expensive monthly which is why I think about getting the Apple watch as well, so this video is very helpful!!
I wish I didn't hate wearing my Apple Watch to bed so much. I've tried 6-7 times now and it always ends up bothering me so much I take it off. Maybe I should get a ring or something
Let’s compare whoop, which tracks health, to the actual sports club that I subscribe to… same initiation cost. Whoop asks for $30 a month, while the club asks for $72 for a month supplying me with pool, state of the art machines, beautiful views, yoga and other group classes… Come one man.
I love the idea of a ring, which is why I purchased the Motiv ring when it came out. They ended up selling the technology and went out of business a year or so later. I wasted $200+. I won't do that again!
If you don't like the whoop morning questions, you can turn them off in settings. They can be annoying so its only worth using them if you really want to statistical insights from the things they ask in the morning questions. You can customise it to only be one or two questions that you actually want to know the impact of. Without the morning questions, you can still get statistical insights on the things the app is able to detect.
Used both the Apple Watch and Whoop for 2.5 years but once the AW8 came out I just stuck with the watch. I figured I would always need the time for the gym or while running, and once the 8 came out with the improved battery life I was finally able to use it throughout the day and night for sleep tracking. The Whoop was also wildly inaccurate when it came to sports with heavy hand movement (Tennis, Football, etc.).
It's been a bit over a year. I'd love to get an update from you about these three trackers. Especially with the Athlytic app also giving incredible health insights based on the Apple Watch itself. I am currently testing the Ultrahuman Ring Air, have the Apple Watch, and also started using a Polar H10 for some advanced testing (HRV & resting heart rate). It's an absolutely fascinating field of self development.
How do you know the Apple Watch overestimates kcal burned? Or does the Whoop underestimate it? On what basis do you make that claim? The Apple Watch has better heartbeats tracking then the whoop.
Hi, is there a way i can see apple watch data and compare things between different dates? I can't find anything neither via the apple watch nor the health app on iphone
I had the WHOOP band trial, and it just wasn't it for me. I bought a smart watch for £25 upfront, and it gave me access to an entire screen, step count, time, notifications, weather, music control, and more without me having to pull up my phone. Plus the fact that the WHOOP is £27 A MONTH, which is as much as I paid upfront for my smartwatch. Yes the WHOOP has a few extra statistics, but the fact that it doesn't even track steps for a "fitness band" is just outrageous.
I really like Whoop band but the problem is that you have to pay for subscription every month, so I'm considering to get Ultrahuman ring air but problem with these rings is that you cant wear it while weight training also Ive heard that the software isn' great either & I think with WatchOS 11 Apple watch would be able to track sleep more accurately without putting it to sleep mode every time. So I might wait for Samsung or Apple to launch their ring.
I normally don't like subscription models either, but with whoop, you are paying for a service. You're paying them to securely store detailed heartrate data, potentially for years, to keep it backed up and never sell it. The server cost alone would add up to a lot, especially for people who liked the product and wanted to keep using it for years. If it was a one-time payment, they would have an incentive to want long-term members to delete their accounts, or to buy a new sensor. They would need to push their members to buy "upgraded" sensors every few years just so the company could stay in business. Whoop is £200 a year if you pay every two years, or if you get a one year membership in December. Nobody should pay monthly, the monthly option is terrible value and I honestly think it shouldn't be there, or should be lower, because putting it on the website just makes the company look bad. Realistically, if you're buying tech at the moment, you're not going to keep it for life. The company will keep coming out with upgrades, and they're not building things to last a lifetime because they need repeated sales. If you're a regular iphone user, how much do you typically spend on a new phone, and how often do you need to replace your phone? Buying a phone isn't a one-time fee for life, and buying a fitness tracker wouldn't be either. With whoop, you're not paying for the sensor. Getting the current sensor is included in the subscription. They have ongoing research and development, and when a new sensor is ready it gets sent to all members for free. There's no extra cost to upgrade the hardware. I do think that they charge too much of a markup on the extra bands and clothing, but that's my only cost complaint, and buying those is optional. You can get off-brand bands much cheaper on etsy.
is the vibration on it more intense than an apple watch. and is it actually enough to wake you up. my apple watch would vibrate until it ran dead and it would be dead in the morning from my experience.
for WHOOP, what's keeping me from subscribing, is the complete lack of glanceable indication, mainly that of heart rate - I don't really care how far I've run, any the time isn't as crucial either (though it would be great to have as well, NGL). But if only they just incorporated at least an LED indicator to show HR zones, than it'd be top. Anyone know when the 5.0 is coming out?
I’ve had them all and returned them all. Waste of money. People just need to have balance and watch what they eat. Work out and have a plan. You don’t need an $800 device to tell you that.
Is there any Apple Watch App that specifically uses the well-measured data recorded by the watch (not gathering themselves) and puts it into a nice interface with sleep and readiness score?
tried whoop and stayed with the watch. Dont like the subscription model at all, rather pay 500 upfront and have the device forever with trade in option maybe, than paying 20+ a month. Also whoop track a lot effortlessly but when its about to work out at the gym you need to put he exercises and reps manually, apple watch (with external app) can detect that by itself, also kinda like to have an option to skip my music, change volume on the go and see heart rate within seconds or always with AOD, dont want to use my phone to see the stats. So for this reason stayed with apple watch also the answering phone calls and pinging a phone is a must. However the sleep stats and recovery score, smart alarm with whoop is the top of the league however its not worth paying 20£ a month to see the sleep stats (at least for me, there are freak people who will pay and are paying for this)
I have had the Apple Watch, it's ok but doesn't track naps. I use for my sleep an old Huawei and for that it's very consistent. Just bought the ultra ring, to not have to change watch when I sleep and it absolutely reeeeeeks, it's god awful, it doesn't register naps, and it's always losing time of sleep at night. I'm giving the whoop band a chance I think.
You should definetly try some Garmin device. Body battery there is amazing. I track every day for over 2 years and there was none with inconsistency measuring. And if you look there at sleep score, rest HR and body battery as a complex number, there is amazing tracking - sometimes you can have long sleep and so good score, but at the same time you can feel not so good - and i will it as low body battery (in case of alcohol in the evening or hard training, whatever).
Oliur, I'd love to see you try the Zoe Glucose Monitor. I've seen a lot of positive feedback, as its measuring your internals and they have a cool app to go with it. Would love to hear back 👊
I have the Ultrahuman it gives me all the information I need. I'm not that pedantic. I think that it's improved via updates alot. My only critiques are I wish they offered half sizes for the ring. And that it can be uncomfortable for some weight lifting.
The apple watch really is NOT good at sleep tracking. I've just been diagnosed with severe sleep apnoea, and my apple watch seems to think I've been sleeping great every night this whole time...
As a runner, I personally love my Whoop. It's definitely not perfect, but it's helpful to have some data to go on. Is this device for everyone, definitely not.
12:37 I would imagine the Whoop to be much better at tracking heart rate in general. The reasoning being the Whoop is getting so many more data readings per minute than the Apple Watch.
The Apple watch is completely underwhelming for health tracking with Apple's native apps. You really need to use something like Athlytic which provides all the same metrics as something like Whoop or Garmin.
People talking about subscriptions as is software is free. How would they afford to have updates and pay for servers in the cloud without subscriptions?
yes exactly. You're paying for a service. You're paying them to securely store detailed heartrate data on their servers for as long as you keep the account active, to keep it backed up, and never sell it. Servers cost money. If you weren't paying a subscription they would be incentivised to either sell your health data or push "upgraded hardware" which isn't actually significantly better, but they would have to pretend it's significantly better and sell it at a huge markup to cover the server costs. The subscription is a predictable amount. It's £200 a year. (nobody should ever do the monthly option, that's terrible value, don't measure them by that). How often do apple users replace their phones, and how much does it cost them? More than £200 a year probably, but they don't consider it a subscription because they're getting a physical item. If you buy a piece of tech at the moment, you probably won't be keeping it forever. The company wants to keep making money and they will push you to buy another one. If Whoop make an improved sensor, they will send it to you for free, so they will only do that when they've actually got one significantly better than the previous one. You're not wastefully replacing your tech every couple of years because the company made the battery tank to force you to "upgrade". I do think that the extra bands are sold at too much of a markup, but that is my only cost complaint.
I use the Apple watch for a rough estimate of the calories i burn daily. So if everyday it says I burn “400” active calories and i decide to lose weight then i just adjust my eating and strive to keep burning that “400” calories
while I get that people don’t like having to subscribe after purchasing the product. The cost isn’t that bad, $70/year. People spend more money per year on coffee than this.
I feel it would be better to do a video were you use them for a month but never look at the data and just record a video each day on how you feel. Similar to what Better Ideas did with his sleep tracking video. As one big issue with the whole “recovery” stuff is that when you wake up and see it saying “you got bad recovery” you will then start to feel worse and start justifying doing things that would correlate with being “low recovery” Just an idea as it would allow for less mental interference from day to day, that way you can learn if it’s actually lining up.
Love the idea of the Whoop strap. I just wish it didn’t have a subscription service and was just a one time cost
Bought mine at Best Buy on Black Friday for 199 and had 50 in rewards so I just paid 150 for a full year which averages 12-13 a month but I own it instead of paying them monthly now. I might not renew it this November unless a better one comes out.
@@chriscarpunkyI get you own it, but is it not useless without subscribing to the app?
Buy a garmin watch (any top model)
@@chriscarpunky You don't own anything I'm afraid... apart from a bit of material, what you pay for is the app
Basically, what you pay for with WHOOP is the subscription for the accurate technology itself, the band is just a freebie. Also, like Oliur said in the video, WHOOP is more focused in fitness, so if you are not into fitness (moderate-hardcore), it may not just be for you. I would instead also recommend the ring or apple watch to you if you are not a fitness-first person.
whoop is insanely detailed. It's almost overwhelming how much it tracks and how much info you get from it. Was super useful to me as a college athlete, but since then it just feels way over the top.
What is cool about the whoop over any device is it is all based on strain. As an example, if I sat at my desk all day my whoop would say my strain is low and to get out there and walk, run or whatever I wanted to do. If I dont even start an activity but work hard in the warehouse all day my heart rate goes up and gives me credit for strain. It takes that automatically as basically a workout. Unless you start your Garmin as a work out while let’s say working a job all it will do is drain your body battery and not give you any load. The other day just for the heck of it I decided to put my watch on cardio on my Garmin and do my normal work activities while working and in 2 hours gave me load of 100. If I wouldn’t have started the workout it would have done nothing but drain my body battery and gave me steps for the day. My whoop counted it all automatically.
I don't have enough space on my arms to carry all these fitness trackers!
Well, I’m an amputee. So, I would happen to agree.
And I don't have money to buy all these 💀
But it would make for a great exercise 😉
This whole "buy a physical product and than pay extra for a subscription model" is an entire scam. So I am basically investing in a company, and I am at their mercy when it comes to pricing. Because if they change the pricing and I don't want to use the service anymore, I am stuck with a +200$ investment.
I'd never buy such a product.
Never
bro my name is Tarik. 1995 here though.
you dont buy it, just the subscription and upgrae to new devices free
It’s ridiculous
@@Greenam85you buy the oura plus subscription you don’t buy the whoop but pay for a ridiculous subscription you buy the UH w zero subscription so that’s a better deal make sense
That questionnaire is so important at the start for whoop coz end of week or month it will give you a detailed report using those questionnaire answers
Yep. Literally what you’re paying for.
Amazing video. Been wondering how accurate a tracking ring could be compared to other devices and I'm pleasantly surprised! Just a note about you having trouble sleeping 9 hours, that's not a bad thing!! Average adults require between 7:30 and 8 hours of sleep to reach optimal form when everything else (exercise and nutrition) is, again, average. The fact you managed to reach 7 hours so consistently with the life and schedule you have is already very impressive imo
So ultrahuman is the way to go. Thanks !
I really wanted an Oura ring but I refuse to pay monthly for something right now. I’m trying to down size and cannot afford that life style right now.
Same
This was an epic video. Loved how you put everything together. You even answered the question I had at the end about what's the best combo depending on your lifestyle. Thanks Oliur
I don't care how good the Whoop band is. I'm not paying a subscription for my health data. There are plenty of good options out there that don't paywall your health data.
With accuracy?
@@lancer717 Yes.
Thank you Apple
@@GravageLike?
The app Athyltic on the Watch is very similar to the whoop app. It isn't quite as good but it still gives you tons more insight. I do wish the whoop would pull in data straight from the health app so you could use the watch as an alternative.
I also use it. I've also had the Whoop. The app contains everything you need. The Apple Watch offers one of the best sleep and heart data.
Have you compared the data from the Athlytic app to the whoop? is it similar?@@emdee1137
I don’t know about this app. I downloaded it and it looks awesome. Thanks for mentioning it.
Absolutely agree. The Athlytic app has transformed my Apple Watch!
paying a subscription for a device i purchased is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. you end up paying waaaay more in the long term that's ridiculous.
Like a phone? Fitness apps?
You don't buy the device. You buy the membership and get the device within that for free.
@@Foxhunter_DE why would I pay hundreds of dollars just to be able to pay more every month as well. That’s ridiculous.
@@Grumpyoldman666 if you pay for fitness apps that’s on you there’s 0 need to do so there tons of free information online there’s nothing a fitness app can provide that isn’t available for free elsewhere.
@@itsSkrimp I don't think it makes any sense what you are saying, and i also don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.
I have worn an Apple Watch since launch. I have worn a Whoop since 2017. I also use a Polar H10 chest strap and tried an Oura Ring. I view the Polar H10 to be the most accurate and have calibrated it at a sports medicine center. The closest device for activity tracking is the Apple Watch without question. It is virtually equivalent to my Polar H10. I find the Apple Watch far more confortable. However, the Apple Watch does not have well developed recovery tracking because it does not measure HRV automatically. The Whoop is great for sleep and recovery but absolutely terrible for activity tracking. It has the lowest correlation to the Polar H10. The Ring is great for tracking sleep and recovery. It actually was better at tracking activity than the Whoop. Ideally, I would have Apple but Whoop so that the algorithms/software that make Whoop great, could leverage the Apple Watch’s data tracking. This video was helpful but makes me think I should cancel my Whoop and stick with the Apple Watch…
Try whoop on your arm instead of wrist, activity tracking improves immensely.
I canceled my Whoop 4 and continued with my Apple Watch Ultra, I now also use the Oura Ring 4. WHOOP isn't all that accurate for heart rate and sleep stages data. I'm considering getting a Polar H10 or Polar Verity Sense. H10 is slightly more accurate for heart rate, but the Verity Sense is more comfortable to wear.
That Ultrahuman ring immediately caught my eye. Was somewhat disappointed with the Oura ring since it’s a subscription based service.
I'm gonna try out the Ultrahuman Ring in 2024!
Its a chinese product with a good frontend, extremely pathetic imho
@@pawanshetty7118everything is a Chinese product
The Ultrahuman app is pure trash however.
So glad I came across this video, I've been looking for a ring sleep and recovery tracker that DO NOT have a monthly subscription. The ring covers literally everything I was looking for.
Started training recently and switched to Whoop. I love that I can wear it on my arm. During lifting or kettlebell exercises, having something on your hand or wrist is problematic.
15:33 On calories. Be sure to check your weight is accurate and your using a proper heart rate monitor. I use a polar hear rate monitor paired to the watch directly and the calorie counting is far better for workouts especially runs and HIT. This is likely because the watch samples heart rates at a lower rate. It can be as bad as every 5 seconds whereas polar can get multiple readings per second.
The b-roll for that sponsorship was 👌
had the same opinion on calorin tracking for workouts with my normal Apple watch, but for nearly a year I have used the apple watch ultra and it looks way more correct with this one.
I use a garmin instinct 2. I’ve had an apple watch (twice, different models) and oura ring. Settled on the garmin. Best blend of all the stats tracking / sleep / HR / body battery / stress levels / recovery status
Got a Fenix 7x myself, and I agree with you.
3 days before I got my whoop, Its amazing but subscription model is wried, anyway! I feel like everyone talking about whoop on internet! I think Whoop marketing team is working really hard!
I'd have loved it if Oliur had used the Athlytic App in Conjuntion with the Apple Watch and maybe have thrown in a Garmin Fenix into the mix as that thing is amazing for fitness!!
When sleeping I find it more comfortable to have the whoop band on the inside of my wrist. You could also get an extra strap and wear it on your ankle. The sensor can be anywhere as long as it's pressed securely against your skin. Changing locations is good to give your skin a break.
What about Apple Watch with apps like Superset Health or Athlytic?
Great video! I have personally started with the OURA ring which I've used for about 18 months. It started bothering me at night as I often have my hand under the pillow and it started to create too much pressure and I woke up frequently.
My second purchase was the Whoop band... super comfortable also at night but significantly different in sleep tracking results compared to the OURA ring. Sleep tracking was my main objective so I find it confusing that the results can be that much different. With the OURA ring it is pretty much impossible to get a rating above 95 vs. the Whoop band gives you 100% quite easily, which is also the reason why so many influencers brag about their great sleeping results with that band :)
I certainly did not like the monthly fee with OURA and after I have learned what I could learn with it I stopped my subscription and sold the ring.
The Whoop band is even more expensive monthly which is why I think about getting the Apple watch as well, so this video is very helpful!!
This helps me. Thanks
One of the best video I have seen so far, great comparison
I am not interested in any of these, but gotta say that thumbnail pic was WOW great work man
I wish I didn't hate wearing my Apple Watch to bed so much. I've tried 6-7 times now and it always ends up bothering me so much I take it off. Maybe I should get a ring or something
The ultra or the normal Apple Watch ?
Long time Oura user with new Apple Watch Ultra 2 owner and would really like to see that. My Oura Ring has no fees as I was there at the start.
Great video, actualy taking the data and comparing it with real life examples exactly what i was looking for
Let’s compare whoop, which tracks health, to the actual sports club that I subscribe to… same initiation cost. Whoop asks for $30 a month, while the club asks for $72 for a month supplying me with pool, state of the art machines, beautiful views, yoga and other group classes… Come one man.
I love the idea of a ring, which is why I purchased the Motiv ring when it came out. They ended up selling the technology and went out of business a year or so later. I wasted $200+. I won't do that again!
If you don't like the whoop morning questions, you can turn them off in settings. They can be annoying so its only worth using them if you really want to statistical insights from the things they ask in the morning questions. You can customise it to only be one or two questions that you actually want to know the impact of. Without the morning questions, you can still get statistical insights on the things the app is able to detect.
Really useful! Considering another health sensor on top of the Apple Watch I already got 💪🏾
Used both the Apple Watch and Whoop for 2.5 years but once the AW8 came out I just stuck with the watch.
I figured I would always need the time for the gym or while running, and once the 8 came out with the improved battery life I was finally able to use it throughout the day and night for sleep tracking. The Whoop was also wildly inaccurate when it came to sports with heavy hand movement (Tennis, Football, etc.).
It's been a bit over a year. I'd love to get an update from you about these three trackers. Especially with the Athlytic app also giving incredible health insights based on the Apple Watch itself. I am currently testing the Ultrahuman Ring Air, have the Apple Watch, and also started using a Polar H10 for some advanced testing (HRV & resting heart rate). It's an absolutely fascinating field of self development.
Love your videos! What strap are you using on your apple watch? Looks cool. Thanks
What’s the difference between the UltraHuman Ring and Oura ring?
A one-year later video would be cool!
How do you know the Apple Watch overestimates kcal burned? Or does the Whoop underestimate it? On what basis do you make that claim? The Apple Watch has better heartbeats tracking then the whoop.
I’ve seen the apple watch overestimating a run by 400 cal burned.
Hi, is there a way i can see apple watch data and compare things between different dates? I can't find anything neither via the apple watch nor the health app on iphone
I had the WHOOP band trial, and it just wasn't it for me. I bought a smart watch for £25 upfront, and it gave me access to an entire screen, step count, time, notifications, weather, music control, and more without me having to pull up my phone. Plus the fact that the WHOOP is £27 A MONTH, which is as much as I paid upfront for my smartwatch. Yes the WHOOP has a few extra statistics, but the fact that it doesn't even track steps for a "fitness band" is just outrageous.
what smartwatch was this?
@Charlie0106 The HONOR band 6 I think. It just does what I need it to so can't really complain about it really.
You are missing the point here. This is not a smart watch and it’s not meant to do what a smart watch does
and oliur had us fooled all this time that his diet consisted of fancy restaurant meals and chicken and rice
I really like Whoop band but the problem is that you have to pay for subscription every month, so I'm considering to get Ultrahuman ring air but problem with these rings is that you cant wear it while weight training also Ive heard that the software isn' great either & I think with WatchOS 11 Apple watch would be able to track sleep more accurately without putting it to sleep mode every time. So I might wait for Samsung or Apple to launch their ring.
I normally don't like subscription models either, but with whoop, you are paying for a service. You're paying them to securely store detailed heartrate data, potentially for years, to keep it backed up and never sell it. The server cost alone would add up to a lot, especially for people who liked the product and wanted to keep using it for years. If it was a one-time payment, they would have an incentive to want long-term members to delete their accounts, or to buy a new sensor. They would need to push their members to buy "upgraded" sensors every few years just so the company could stay in business.
Whoop is £200 a year if you pay every two years, or if you get a one year membership in December. Nobody should pay monthly, the monthly option is terrible value and I honestly think it shouldn't be there, or should be lower, because putting it on the website just makes the company look bad.
Realistically, if you're buying tech at the moment, you're not going to keep it for life. The company will keep coming out with upgrades, and they're not building things to last a lifetime because they need repeated sales. If you're a regular iphone user, how much do you typically spend on a new phone, and how often do you need to replace your phone? Buying a phone isn't a one-time fee for life, and buying a fitness tracker wouldn't be either.
With whoop, you're not paying for the sensor. Getting the current sensor is included in the subscription. They have ongoing research and development, and when a new sensor is ready it gets sent to all members for free. There's no extra cost to upgrade the hardware.
I do think that they charge too much of a markup on the extra bands and clothing, but that's my only cost complaint, and buying those is optional. You can get off-brand bands much cheaper on etsy.
aw se 2022 + athlytic
Thank you! This was thorough.
is the vibration on it more intense than an apple watch. and is it actually enough to wake you up. my apple watch would vibrate until it ran dead and it would be dead in the morning from my experience.
Ooooh would love to see you using a CGM next !!
yess
Omg Shervin, i would love a "what i eat in a week video" from you too 😂 its the healthy eating part that i always struggle with LOL@@ShervinShares
Nice video.Apple watch has problem in reading the heart rate in the middle of the workout for couple mins.
This is what I was looking for, thank you. Review on Samsung ring maybe?👀
for WHOOP, what's keeping me from subscribing, is the complete lack of glanceable indication, mainly that of heart rate - I don't really care how far I've run, any the time isn't as crucial either (though it would be great to have as well, NGL). But if only they just incorporated at least an LED indicator to show HR zones, than it'd be top. Anyone know when the 5.0 is coming out?
I’ve had them all and returned them all. Waste of money. People just need to have balance and watch what they eat. Work out and have a plan. You don’t need an $800 device to tell you that.
You certainly don't need a lifetime subscription draining your bank account and life force!
The Ultrahuman has caught my eye. It's $375 after tax with no monthly subscription cost. You're saying that's not worth it?
Waste of money for most that don’t have it. For the rest, totally worth it.
I want something for sleep tracking mainly
You clearly didn't use whoop good enough
Where/ how do you keep track of what you eat? Find it the most distressful of all things to do. Thanks
MyFitnessPal is an easy app that has helped me stay on top of protein goals
$20 a month for the woot is kinda of a deal breaker by default.
Yeah, it’s madness. $20 a month to view your own data.
i wonder if the whoop and ring would pair well together? 🤔
Great piece if work, thanks.
Really good video but I’m out when it comes to subscriptions for trackers
Is there any Apple Watch App that specifically uses the well-measured data recorded by the watch (not gathering themselves) and puts it into a nice interface with sleep and readiness score?
Yes. Athlytic, Superset Health and Chipr.
tried whoop and stayed with the watch. Dont like the subscription model at all, rather pay 500 upfront and have the device forever with trade in option maybe, than paying 20+ a month. Also whoop track a lot effortlessly but when its about to work out at the gym you need to put he exercises and reps manually, apple watch (with external app) can detect that by itself, also kinda like to have an option to skip my music, change volume on the go and see heart rate within seconds or always with AOD, dont want to use my phone to see the stats. So for this reason stayed with apple watch also the answering phone calls and pinging a phone is a must. However the sleep stats and recovery score, smart alarm with whoop is the top of the league however its not worth paying 20£ a month to see the sleep stats (at least for me, there are freak people who will pay and are paying for this)
I have had the Apple Watch, it's ok but doesn't track naps. I use for my sleep an old Huawei and for that it's very consistent. Just bought the ultra ring, to not have to change watch when I sleep and it absolutely reeeeeeks, it's god awful, it doesn't register naps, and it's always losing time of sleep at night. I'm giving the whoop band a chance I think.
Did you get a whoop?
@@lancer717 nope... I'm kinda not wanting to pay a subscription...
You should definetly try some Garmin device. Body battery there is amazing. I track every day for over 2 years and there was none with inconsistency measuring. And if you look there at sleep score, rest HR and body battery as a complex number, there is amazing tracking - sometimes you can have long sleep and so good score, but at the same time you can feel not so good - and i will it as low body battery (in case of alcohol in the evening or hard training, whatever).
Ia less accurate
How you track sleeping with Apple Watch? I have Series 3, and I don't know if it's possible with this device. What app do you use?
Does it automatically. Here is a quick guide on setting it up - support.apple.com/en-gb/HT211685
Oliur, I'd love to see you try the Zoe Glucose Monitor. I've seen a lot of positive feedback, as its measuring your internals and they have a cool app to go with it. Would love to hear back 👊
great video, thank you so much
This seems oddly similar to a Shervin video I saw 2 months ago 🤔
Have you tried the Oura Ring or a Garmin watch?
Does the health app import the sleep and recovery score data from the ultrahuman ring?
where did you get the apple watch strap from?
I have the Ultrahuman it gives me all the information I need.
I'm not that pedantic.
I think that it's improved via updates alot.
My only critiques are I wish they offered half sizes for the ring.
And that it can be uncomfortable for some weight lifting.
Great review....Thank You
The apple watch really is NOT good at sleep tracking. I've just been diagnosed with severe sleep apnoea, and my apple watch seems to think I've been sleeping great every night this whole time...
As a runner, I personally love my Whoop. It's definitely not perfect, but it's helpful to have some data to go on.
Is this device for everyone, definitely not.
12:37 I would imagine the Whoop to be much better at tracking heart rate in general. The reasoning being the Whoop is getting so many more data readings per minute than the Apple Watch.
I like to see you compare the Ultrahuman to the Garmin 265 and another wearable of your choice…
Can’t believe you skip the journal on Whoop. That’s literally the point do you can build a picture of what helps you recover.
What Apple Watch band is that?
Is Apple Health the only available aggregator for all these data?
yes
Where did you get the jumper from?
The question is the tracking consistence and comparable with both
Hey whats your MagSafe stand?
The Apple watch is completely underwhelming for health tracking with Apple's native apps. You really need to use something like Athlytic which provides all the same metrics as something like Whoop or Garmin.
Great review!!
People talking about subscriptions as is software is free. How would they afford to have updates and pay for servers in the cloud without subscriptions?
yes exactly. You're paying for a service. You're paying them to securely store detailed heartrate data on their servers for as long as you keep the account active, to keep it backed up, and never sell it. Servers cost money. If you weren't paying a subscription they would be incentivised to either sell your health data or push "upgraded hardware" which isn't actually significantly better, but they would have to pretend it's significantly better and sell it at a huge markup to cover the server costs.
The subscription is a predictable amount. It's £200 a year. (nobody should ever do the monthly option, that's terrible value, don't measure them by that). How often do apple users replace their phones, and how much does it cost them? More than £200 a year probably, but they don't consider it a subscription because they're getting a physical item. If you buy a piece of tech at the moment, you probably won't be keeping it forever. The company wants to keep making money and they will push you to buy another one. If Whoop make an improved sensor, they will send it to you for free, so they will only do that when they've actually got one significantly better than the previous one. You're not wastefully replacing your tech every couple of years because the company made the battery tank to force you to "upgrade".
I do think that the extra bands are sold at too much of a markup, but that is my only cost complaint.
athlytics does this for the apple watch.
Excellent video!
Dude thanks for doing this, I'm getting the ring then! Also, what's the song at 9:22? 👀
What happened to ROAST YOUR DESK SETUP & TikTok series ? ☹️
great vid mate
Thank you 👏🙏
Which one is best for detecting heartbeat? Do any of them show ECG info or similar?
What’s your opinion about coffee?
I don’t drink it so don’t really have an opinion on it lol.
This kind of dependence on gadgets humans are developing is insanity…
That would be something to be scared off
Apple watch battery life?
I use the Apple watch for a rough estimate of the calories i burn daily. So if everyday it says I burn “400” active calories and i decide to lose weight then i just adjust my eating and strive to keep burning that “400” calories
so wonderful beautiful video Oliur i love it so much to see so nice
Love your videos
Much better title now lmao
while I get that people don’t like having to subscribe after purchasing the product. The cost isn’t that bad, $70/year. People spend more money per year on coffee than this.
I feel it would be better to do a video were you use them for a month but never look at the data and just record a video each day on how you feel. Similar to what Better Ideas did with his sleep tracking video.
As one big issue with the whole “recovery” stuff is that when you wake up and see it saying “you got bad recovery” you will then start to feel worse and start justifying doing things that would correlate with being “low recovery”
Just an idea as it would allow for less mental interference from day to day, that way you can learn if it’s actually lining up.
Would you go UltraHuman or Oura?
Thought it was pretty clear from the video that I’d go Ultrahuman lol
@@Oliur Why did you pick UH over Oura?
@@KeyurKumbhare more easily available worldwide and no subscription. It's also thinner than the Oura.
I appreciate the response. Went back and found it at 24th min
@@JakeHenry 24:05
The only metric that worked for me and seems very accurate was body battery