10 Things The UK Does BETTER Than The USA (Police, Worker's Rights, & More!)

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  • @WanderingRavens
    @WanderingRavens  3 года назад +20

    A huge thank you to Rosetta Stone for sponsoring this video! Click this link to support our channel and get 50% off their monthly, yearly, and lifetime language-learning subscriptions: www.rosettastone.co.uk/wanderingravens-a/

    • @Tommy-if2uk
      @Tommy-if2uk 3 года назад +6

      As an idea why don’t both of you do a video on the differences between US and UK police officers

    • @WanderingRavens
      @WanderingRavens  3 года назад +2

      @@Tommy-if2uk Good idea!

    • @jamesleate
      @jamesleate 3 года назад +3

      @@WanderingRavens Really missed you guys, I feel cheated.😘

    • @fionagregory9376
      @fionagregory9376 3 года назад +1

      Why would I want to learn a different language?

    • @jamesleate
      @jamesleate 3 года назад +3

      @@fionagregory9376 Je ne sais pas pourquoi.

  • @andywilliams7323
    @andywilliams7323 3 года назад +180

    UK 28 weeks of sick leave at £95.85 a week is mostly not true. That is the legal minimum requirement that must be provided. However, nearly all UK employers provide much higher sick pay to their employees. EG The NHS pays its employers their full monthly wage for the first 6 months of their sick leave. Then half their monthly wage for each month beyond 6 months. Additionally, the UK has a much better general welfare and long-term poor health payment system, which works alongside and in tandem with sick pay.

    • @cogidubnus1953
      @cogidubnus1953 3 года назад +8

      Spot on...I worked for an employer often thought to be fairly strict and had the misfortune to suffer a couple of heart attacks and had to take fairly extensive time off (though less than 26 weeks in either case). I received my time off paid in full (considerably more than £96 per week). It was paid automatically without my needing to supply anything except occasional doctors certificates...I have to say my employers were surprisingly sympathetic and were anxious to ensure I didn't return to work until I was completely ready. There was no subsequent comeback and I was even offered shorter hours as a transitional measure at no loss of pay.

    • @pip5858
      @pip5858 3 года назад +13

      I came here to say about the sick leave when you work for the NHS.
      Also I had time of for mental health sick leave. No questions asked and free counselling from our occupational health department

    • @trickygoose2
      @trickygoose2 3 года назад +6

      I'm a UK Civil Servant and get full pay for 6 months and half pay for the next 6. Not that I've benefitted because it's ten years since I've had a day off sick. Also have 33.5 days leave with public holidays on top of that, so that's good as well.

    • @gillianrimmer7733
      @gillianrimmer7733 3 года назад +2

      I worked in local government and as a teacher - both jobs gave full pay for sick leave up to 6 months. Then, after that you went onto the mandatory sick pay from the government.
      Also, maternity pay was 90%of your pay for 32 weeks

    • @andywilliams7323
      @andywilliams7323 3 года назад +5

      @@chrisbodum3621 RE: "The 28 weeks of sick leave at £95.85 is Statutory Sick Pay." All employees on fixed-term contracts with all major UK employees receive Contractual Sick Pay from their employer. Which is usually 90-100% of their pay for the first 6 months. Which for the vast majority of UK employees is massively more money received each week, than the paltry £95.85 received a week from Statutory Sick Pay.
      Most UK employees on average earn around £95 for each working day. Which on average is £475 for each week. Even when they're off sick the vast majority of employees still receive that on average £475, or 90% of each week. £475 Contractual Sick Pay each week is a lot more than £95.85 Statutory Sick Pay each week.
      RE: "Mothers can take up to 52 weeks of Maternity leave. And again by law, must be paid 90% of their wage for 33 weeks. However, most UK employers pay full wage for all 52 weeks"
      I made a small mistake. It's not 33 weeks. It's actually 39 weeks that mothers must by law be paid 90% of their weekly wage. Specifically for the first 6 weeks, 90% of their wage before tax is taken. And then for the remaining 33 weeks. 90% of their wage after tax is taken. This is Statutory Maternity Leave Pay.
      The majority of major UK employees pay mothers with newborns Contractual Maternity Leave Pay. Which for the majority of UK employed mothers with newborns is their 100% full weekly wage. The article you have linked confirms this. It actually states that: 82% (majority) of respondents (employers) with between 1000 and 9,999 employees (i.e. a major employer) enhance maternity pay.
      The article you have linked further states as part of its conclusion:
      "Zoe Woolacott (pictured), research assistant at IDR, said: “This suggests that many employers believe that the ((BASIC STATUTORY [maternity] offering is INADEQUATE. They feel that LONGER PERIODS of FULLY-PAID LEAVE can reap dividends in helping them engage and retain talent)), even if not all [organisations] openly share their maternity policies with prospective recruits at present."
      So, where are I getting the information from? The UK Government at www.gov.uk. That it's common public knowledge amongst most of the UK population. And now also the actual article that you linked to.

  • @andywilliams7323
    @andywilliams7323 3 года назад +93

    UK Police are not allowed to drink alcohol on duty. The ones you saw at the street fairs, will have been drinking non-alcoholic beverages.

    • @andywilliams7323
      @andywilliams7323 3 года назад +5

      @@myvids1415 While legal to serve a Police Officer alcohol in law. That doesn't change the fact that UK Police Officers are not allowed to drink alcohol on duty. As it's the Home Office's and Police's internal policies regarding officer conduct which forbids it. Officers face significant internal disciplinary action if they're found to be drinking alcohol on duty. The same thing applies for most professions. Nearly all employers have an internal policy that forbids their employees from drinking alcohol while on work duty.

    • @Bellenickna
      @Bellenickna 3 года назад +2

      Ahh now i know what that stupid 0.0 percent heineke is for.

    • @myvids1415
      @myvids1415 3 года назад +1

      @@andywilliams7323 I agree, I was just clarifying the legal position.

    • @victorimmature
      @victorimmature 3 года назад +3

      they are drunk on the power of the badge , might as well be drinking , look at the crime rate in London

    • @ralphopium
      @ralphopium 2 года назад +1

      @@victorimmature the us crime rat is still higher than the uk crime rate lmao

  • @laserman9566
    @laserman9566 3 года назад +45

    Clear pricing in supermarkets you pay the price on the label no maths or state tax knowledge needed

  • @peterwoodhouse3239
    @peterwoodhouse3239 3 года назад +49

    British Police drinking a pint of beer at a festival. Highly unlikely. Someone would take a photo of it. Not worth the risk for a Policeman!

    • @yedis1750
      @yedis1750 3 года назад +5

      True that, but the image sums up the difference between the two countries (generally) There's more effort and focus on maintaining a good relationship between the police and the communities they serve in the UK, where my impression of US cops is that they are Judge Dredd lawmakers. I'm generalising I know. Awesome and bad cops in both countries! I think people in UK definitely appreciated and are more thankful for our police than our cousins across the pond. Again I'm generalising so please dont shout at me!

  • @cstan93
    @cstan93 3 года назад +18

    I never understood the whole cultural appropriation thing, as someone from the UK, I love the fact that the Wandering Ravens are interested in UK culture and that they're happy to give it ago, culture is for sharing the more people who are interested in it the better I say keep up the great videos guys and hope you get the most out of what UK has to offer.

  • @GrahamMNewton
    @GrahamMNewton 3 года назад +74

    In my one interaction with US police, where I had stopped my car in a side street to read a map, whereupon I had a bright light shone in my face and was told to put my hands where they could see them, rather than them just having a quick word. I've come to the conclusion the difference is due the fact the British police don't assume everyone has gun.

    • @Thurgosh_OG
      @Thurgosh_OG 3 года назад +9

      @SalNova15 Sorry, but that's just the excuse we always hear from Americans about the way their police are. And as to looking at a map, rather than a dubious mobile device that might not even work properly out of your home country, it's the best way to know where you are going.

    • @GrahamMNewton
      @GrahamMNewton 3 года назад

      @SalNova15 I don't know who Thurgosh is but his rather churlish reply was not called for. There is no need to apologise, once the officers understood what was going on they helped out by giving me directions so all was good. I understand that is how it is in the US, I just thought my experience was a way of highlighting how and maybe why policing is different in the UK. This happened back in the 1990s when GPS was not around. I have been back to the US many times since and have used both my own GPS and those installed in the automobile. I will try to remember your advice if I ever get stopped again. In the main I have found Americans very friendly, I have seen many remarkable places and I absolutely love the mountains of Colorado. Thank you for reaching out.

    • @ralphopium
      @ralphopium 2 года назад

      @SalNova15 you high?

    • @timwaywell
      @timwaywell 2 года назад

      @@salnova1542 Yes and realize the US police officers have to deal with the potential threat of guns... much less so in the UK so the approach is very different

  • @stevieduggan1763
    @stevieduggan1763 3 года назад +51

    What do us Brits do with six weeks paid leave?
    We moan about the weather lol. 🇺🇸🇬🇧

    • @christophermoss9395
      @christophermoss9395 3 года назад +9

      Brilliant lol. Since leaving the UK for dear old Uncle Sam, I’ve often thought, you don’t realise what you’ve got till it’s gone. For 35 years I’ve had the luxury of having at least 4 weeks paid time off and and have since wondered why I gave that up. That and free healthcare. You’ve just reminded me about the rain so it makes it all good again. In case you hadn’t noticed, I’m being sarcastic and miss the uk dearly lol. Rain or no rain

    • @AJ-hi9fd
      @AJ-hi9fd 3 года назад +4

      We get on a plane and jet off to the Med ☀️🏖🥂

    • @michellemaine2719
      @michellemaine2719 3 года назад +1

      @@christophermoss9395 come back. The North-East coast weather isn't that bad, and there's always the Med, as AJ pointed out.

    • @mdx7460
      @mdx7460 3 года назад +1

      Just had 2 weeks off and it was rainy or cloudy the whole time… 30 degrees on my last week in work! Absolutely typical 😅

    • @timwaywell
      @timwaywell 2 года назад

      @@michellemaine2719 Ha yes .. Redcar in the summer

  • @DJhinckley
    @DJhinckley 3 года назад +22

    just to correct a figure: Maternity Pay is now set at 90% of weekly earnings for first 6 weeks, then £151.97 for the next 33 weeks, paid leave for 39 weeks total.

    • @Muppetkeeper
      @Muppetkeeper 3 года назад +2

      Well said Dave, also you can have up to 51 weeks in total and “a similar job to the one you left” must be available too.

  • @wenglishsal
    @wenglishsal 3 года назад +25

    Hello Eric and Grace, as a lady of nearly 6 decades, I have to say your posts are very watchable, quirky, funny and I click to watch 'as soon as I am able to', work permitting (it's my day off, so I caught you guys really early YAY)..
    As to 'sick pay' here in the UK, I had a major op, a good few years ago, but the time off is still the same now, and I had 12 weeks of FULL PAY, then 12 weeks of HALF PAY. After that, you get Universal Credit', once you supply 'sick notes' normally weekly or monthly depending on the medical/illness problem, from your local GP, through the whole sickness period..
    Then when you are ready to return to work, you get seen by the Occupational Therapist, to see if you ARE actually well enough to work, and usually an interview with your employers too.. and back you go..
    Apart from the long stint off for the Major Op, I have only 'been off work' less that the scary half pay scenario, but sick pay here in the UK is a life saver. No worries about your job going, income decreasing and/or losing your home..
    Glad you're both here, I missed your lovely faces..
    Best and heartiest wishes from Wales.

    • @WanderingRavens
      @WanderingRavens  3 года назад +6

      Hello Sally! Thank you so much for taking the time to comment! And for teaching us more about the sick pay situation in the UK :D

  • @juneyoung6357
    @juneyoung6357 3 года назад +19

    One of my favourite insults is that someone is 'About as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking contest'

    • @tans3015
      @tans3015 3 года назад

      My grandpa used to say that.

    • @shaungold
      @shaungold 3 года назад +1

      I like to say "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person" or "damn...if both your brain cells worked you'd be dangerous!"

  • @Jamie_D
    @Jamie_D 3 года назад +57

    One important thing that always gets missed when talking about our road safety being better is the M.O.T. In the states you could legit have someone in front of you with large parts of their vehicle being held together by duct tape, obviously not safe for the occupants or anyone around them.

    • @Thurgosh_OG
      @Thurgosh_OG 3 года назад +3

      Some states do have something similar to the MOT but only some.

    • @Jamie_D
      @Jamie_D 3 года назад +2

      @@Thurgosh_OG oh wow,I wouldn't expect it to be a state thing with people often going on road trips etc

    • @notreallydavid
      @notreallydavid 3 года назад +5

      I saw some very unwell rear suspensions when I took my British self over to Indiana for six months.

    • @pluggy86
      @pluggy86 Год назад

      @@Jamie_D All states require safety inspections, some emissions as well. You can drive out of state due to a full faith and credit tradition.

  • @ReaperMan1010
    @ReaperMan1010 3 года назад +86

    The figures you have for Sick Pay & Maternity/Paternity (or Parental as it’s often called) leave are based on the statutory minimums I think. A lot of companies actually pay more than that. For example my employer pays Sick Pay as your full salary for 6 months, then half salary for a further 6 months which seems to be fairly standard for my type of job. With Parental leave, they again give full salary for 6 months before reverting to the statutory minimum for the remainder of the paid leave time.

    • @allenwilliams1306
      @allenwilliams1306 3 года назад +3

      Yes. I was a teacher in the UK, and our sick pay was full salary for six months, then half pay for six months, then SSP. However, if you returned to work for one week, the whole process went back to zero. We had a music teacher who lost her voice, went off sick for six months, came back for a week, lost her voice again, went off sick for six months, and so on. As long as the doctors said that full recovery was possible, there was nothing the employers could do about it.

    • @chrisy8989
      @chrisy8989 3 года назад +4

      I'm the same, Adam. I had cancer a few years ago and had a full year off, full salary for 6 months and half for the next 6 months. Even when I went back, I was part time for the first month with my full time wage.

    • @stephenlee5929
      @stephenlee5929 3 года назад +6

      Something many people don't also know, if you are off sick you still accrue holiday, so the teacher (above) off for 6 months on full pay also has 1/2 a years holiday entitlement.

    • @rachelburgin1160
      @rachelburgin1160 3 года назад +2

      Yes and a lot of employers are much more generous with maternity leave. The gold standard I guess is 6 months full pay, which you’d get in a professional job if you’d been there a decent length of time.
      On sick pay, I’ve always been on full pay if I was in a permanent job. Though I’ve never taken more than a few days off.

    • @oufc90
      @oufc90 3 года назад

      Yeah I get fully paid sick days. Up to a certain amount of occasions if sickness anyway. But you shouldn’t ever need to use all of them. Thankfully I’m not sick too often anyway. (Touch wood)

  • @andywilliams7323
    @andywilliams7323 3 года назад +13

    Fathers can take up to 2 weeks of Paternity leave. And by law, must at minimum be paid at 90% of their wage. Mothers can take up to 52 weeks of Maternity leave. And again by law, must be paid 90% of their wage for 33 weeks. However, most UK employers pay full wage for all 52 weeks. If eligible some couples can take shared Parental Leave. In which case they are allowed to share/distribute 50 weeks, between themselves. 37 weeks of which must be paid at 90% of their respective wages.

    • @doogiej1977
      @doogiej1977 3 года назад

      My other half has taken a year off each time we had a child...our employer offers a sliding scale of pay....first 3 months full salary plus statutory maternity pay....then 3 months of salary plus SMP to get you to your full salary equivalent...then 3 months of just SMP...then unpaid. It's worked well for us. Especially as the 2nd was born in lockdown and I have been WFH too, so got to see her grow up.

  • @chrismaggs
    @chrismaggs 3 года назад +5

    British Police are great from my experience.
    This happenned during a work night out with free alcohol and food (please note I'm from the Welsh Valleys at this point!)
    After numerous drinks and a half arsed attempt to soak up the booze with the free food, I was urinating in a corner outside the venue and I was politely given the option to stop and put him away or get nicked!
    A few hours later I was picked up by Police as sleeping in a bush at the side of a dual carriageway (A470 near Taffs Well to those who are local. No idea of exact location as I was hammered!) and was collected from Fairwater (Cardiff) Police station by my un-amused parents (I was in my early 30s) at around 4:00am. Made it in to work for 7:30am and spent the day doing Tech Support via email so I could leg it to the toilet when needed!! All officers involved were amazing

  • @nelsonkaiowa4347
    @nelsonkaiowa4347 3 года назад +51

    I think the UK does Christmas better.

    • @animatechap5176
      @animatechap5176 3 года назад +47

      @@BaileyMagikz I think the UK does Halloween better by mostly ignoring it

    • @Bellenickna
      @Bellenickna 3 года назад +9

      I think the US over does everything.

    • @Bellenickna
      @Bellenickna 3 года назад +1

      More money than cents lol

    • @WanderingRavens
      @WanderingRavens  3 года назад +7

      Yes! We'll include this in the next one haha

    • @willscruton2631
      @willscruton2631 3 года назад +6

      @@BaileyMagikz Compared to America we really do ignore Halloween man ik we still celebrate it but Americans take it above and beyond what we do

  • @paulrobson7887
    @paulrobson7887 3 года назад +3

    You guys have misunderstood the situation here in the UK. The amounts you quote for sick leave and maternity leave are the bare minimum statutory amounts that the government guarantee. The majority of salaried employees with reputable companies will get about 3 months sick leave on full pay (if you’re signed off by a doctor) and usually about 6 months to a year on half pay, depending on how generous your company is. The same applies for maternity leave. Most women are paid their full salary for about 6 months I think, then a slightly lesser amount for up to a year.

  • @raftonpounder6696
    @raftonpounder6696 3 года назад +14

    As an NHS employee, I am entitled to six months full pay if off sick, dropping down to another six months half pay. I also receive 33 days annual leave plus 10 bank holidays. You need good unions over there. That’s why you have no rights.

    • @malcolmchapman3213
      @malcolmchapman3213 3 года назад +2

      In US unions at one time were looked down or banned in some areas. Some unions were even linked to the mafia.

  • @thebighon6854
    @thebighon6854 3 года назад +1

    Ex-UK police officer who once did a ride along in the USA and I was on edge the whole time. Was shown the shotgun when I got in the cruiser and told to just take it and use it if necessary... I have not fired a gun in my entire life! Totally different atmosphere and attitude!

  • @darriendastar3941
    @darriendastar3941 3 года назад +6

    Just want to say it's great to see you again. It made me genuinely happy when the notification turned up on my RUclips stuff. Absolute best love to both of you.

  • @Ross.Cavendish
    @Ross.Cavendish 2 года назад +8

    Sorry for the terrible pun, but I think that the Wandering Ravens have wandered away. Anyway, I would like to say a big thank you for all the brilliant videos that you have done over the years and wishing you both all the very best for the future.

  • @chrismaggs
    @chrismaggs 3 года назад +22

    "He/She couldn't arrange a piss up in a brewery"
    Basically, they're useless!

    • @Dementat
      @Dementat 3 года назад +7

      My mum's variant is hilarious
      "Couldn't organise a cock up in a brothel"

    • @lordcharfield
      @lordcharfield 3 года назад

      @@Dementat Or the football chant….🎵🎶”You couldn’t score in a brothel!”🎶🎵

  • @sb6678
    @sb6678 2 года назад +9

    What has happened to these guys? I really miss them;;they’ve not posted any new vids for ages. Hope they’re ok.

  • @PedroConejo1939
    @PedroConejo1939 3 года назад +17

    Good to see you back and looking spiffing. On the last one, there are really polite and pleasant police in the US and there are some rude, obnoxious coppers in the UK but on the whole, I'd much rather have an encounter with British police than US ones - and I have had dealings with both varieties. The British 'policing by consent' comment sums it up. In the US, it just seems like the cops are viewed almost as a paramilitary service intended to keep the citizenry in line. Some of this must fall on the US public though, since they seem quick to use to police to exert their power over others. The birth of the Karen in the US is a good example of how that works.

    • @fellbuddy
      @fellbuddy 3 года назад +5

      another difference is that in the UK we have a police service and in the USA they have a police force. Such small words but a world of difference in meaning.

  • @Ingens_Scherz
    @Ingens_Scherz Год назад +6

    A final video uploaded in August '21. I guess the Ravens aren't wondering any more. Very sad.

  • @petersymonds4975
    @petersymonds4975 3 года назад +10

    Welcome back both. In 1994 I was seconded to Staten Island (NY) for 6 months, we had a visit from an AT&T technician and my fellow colleague said to me “Look at the syrup”. Syrup, from “Syrup of Figs” - an old fashioned laxative and is a cockney rhyming slang for a wig! Even though both of us were not cockneys we both knew the meaning, his wig was coming off and lifting on one side!

  • @blindarchershaunhenderson3769
    @blindarchershaunhenderson3769 3 года назад +7

    Fifth post, our police used to be really good, but there are so few doing the job that a lot of the police are never around when you want one, it's generally accepted that we need more police on the Street

    • @emmamaclean737
      @emmamaclean737 3 года назад +2

      Problem is funding being cut means less police it's a shame

    • @dallassukerkin6878
      @dallassukerkin6878 3 года назад +1

      So true. Even though all the statistics in the world say that a presence on the street doesn't do as much to deter crime as people think, it *is* very reassuring and I am fairly convinced it has to help with response times at least a bit.

  • @neilbreakwell4500
    @neilbreakwell4500 3 года назад +3

    As a Brit who has always loved the USA, I'm learning SO much from you guys' videos. Really appreciate and enjoy them. Thanks !

  • @richardjohnson2026
    @richardjohnson2026 Год назад +1

    Sick pay/leave in the UK is usually full pay as is Maternity pay/leave. Women usually get 37 weeks full pay then 15 at anything from 50 percent to 90 percent. The £85 sick pay is the legal minimum amount you are allowed to be paid

  • @glennwheatley2877
    @glennwheatley2877 3 года назад +9

    I've been very lucky with sick pay over the years. Both times of sickness I needed 6 months off. Both companies I worked for gave me full sick pay. As far as I'm aware the company can claim SSP payments back off the government

  • @the_oslovian
    @the_oslovian 3 года назад +9

    Norway: 80 prosent income and one and a half year off for maternity leave. 5 week holiday pluss a lot of holidays. Sick leave with a year with your normal sallery and you are still taken good care of after that, maybe disability after a few years.

  • @junoedwards8716
    @junoedwards8716 3 года назад +10

    with the baby thing in the uk, i think it’s a good thing to note that most people don’t pay money to give birth so you aren’t charged like $5000-10000. Babies are still expensive to be clear. i remember a lot of people having the mum have most of the leave and the father be off for a lot shorter time and would work. very heteronormative but i guess that’s just how it was in my small town

    • @Lily-Bravo
      @Lily-Bravo 3 года назад

      That's how it used to be, until very recently. In big towns as well as little ones.

    • @Lily-Bravo
      @Lily-Bravo 3 года назад

      In fact, my husband had no time off at all, but then, he was the boss of his own business and the workers' rights thing doesn't always work for the boss.

  • @AndysEastCoastAdventures
    @AndysEastCoastAdventures 3 года назад +1

    Some in the UK, including me work a thing called a 'Rollington week'. This is to provide cover for jobs that require 6 days like postal services etc. Basically you work 6 days but get paid 5 days but you accrue a week off every 6 weeks. With the statutory holiday entitlement of 28days included it gives you 16weeks off a year. Also some of the governmental institutions increase holiday entitlement with long term service. After 20years service your entitlement goes up and extra week extending 1 week/year for every 10yrs service thereafter.

  • @andrewmildinhall8210
    @andrewmildinhall8210 3 года назад +3

    When I was working I recall being entitled to 6 months sick leave on full pay and the next 6 months on half pay.

  • @docsmellyfella
    @docsmellyfella 3 года назад +3

    A lot of UK companies provide paid sick leave for varying lengths of time as part of pay and conditions. Statuary sick pay is a safety net for those workers that don't receive contracted sick pay from their employer.

  • @nansnotes415
    @nansnotes415 2 года назад +5

    Where are you? Please come back!

  • @tans3015
    @tans3015 3 года назад

    That first one is a little misleading, because in the US you have a certain amount of sick leave, but if you have a long-term illness you don't actually lose your job, you just start taking your vacation days. When vacation days run out you usually qualify for the Family and Medical Leave Act. This is a 12 week program for illnesses that are longer. Then, of course, you would apply for disability.

  • @LewisXCV
    @LewisXCV 2 года назад +8

    What happened to you guys? Is the channel done? 😔

  • @AndrewJLeslie
    @AndrewJLeslie 3 года назад +4

    By the way, Adoption leave in the UK mirrors Parental leave. Something rarely mentioned.

  • @stevearmstrong9213
    @stevearmstrong9213 3 года назад +7

    On the workers rights, it must also be said that over here, you can't be sacked for no particular reason. Unless someone has done something really bad, it's actually very hard to sack them.

    • @emmamaclean737
      @emmamaclean737 3 года назад

      Very true then you have verbal warnings, written warnings etc before they can sack you

    • @Muppetkeeper
      @Muppetkeeper 3 года назад

      True, it’s easier to retrain someone than to sack them. Obviously if it’s an attitude problem, sometimes it’s better to schedule the 12 months it takes to sack them and get on with it.

    • @timwaywell
      @timwaywell 2 года назад

      @@Muppetkeeper Nope you can sack who you like.. whenever you like...... you just have to pay them compensation in most cases

    • @Muppetkeeper
      @Muppetkeeper Год назад

      @@timwaywell not many UK companies go for that approach, they just call it a compromise agreement.

  • @just-another-guy
    @just-another-guy 3 года назад +2

    Welcome back. No sarcastic comment from me today. Just genuinely happy to see you two back. You have been missed.

  • @ceriauld1
    @ceriauld1 8 месяцев назад +4

    Where have you guys gone?

    • @SiGr10614
      @SiGr10614 5 месяцев назад

      I was just thinking that myself. They haven't posted on any of there socials for 2 years 🤷‍♂️
      Hope both of them are Ok.

  • @alexlongmore621
    @alexlongmore621 3 года назад +2

    I was a British police officer and ended up having a lot of sick leave but I still got paid my wage. I had over a year off. Waiting for my diagnoses of Multiple Sclerosis

    • @llamagirl2679
      @llamagirl2679 2 года назад

      My ex was also a Police Officer and had 2 yrs off the first time with depression on full pay, then the second time he was off 18 months on full pay and the third time he was off he was also on full pay for over a yr.

  • @charlestaylor9424
    @charlestaylor9424 3 года назад +5

    Where I worked maternity/paternity leave was 6 months at full pay, 6 months at half pay.

    • @gail9299
      @gail9299 3 года назад

      Think this is the norm with majority of employers. I've never heard of anyone getting anything less unless they were in temporary employment or hadn't been in that employment for very long.

  • @mentaldavethefirst
    @mentaldavethefirst 3 года назад +1

    Around 6 years ago my employer introduced voluntary paid sick leave so it is paid sick leave with no reduction in wages. I'd already worked for them for over 4 years at the point so was used to no sick pay beyond paltry legal minimum. Went in with a bit of a cold and was told I should be at home. When I responded that I couldn't afford the drop in wages it was pointed out sick leave is now paid. Took the remaining 3.5 days of the week off, wrapped under a duvet watching tv with lots of hot beverages on full pay. Only time I've used it as I don'ttend to suffer from colds and viruses and fortunately haven't had any serious conditions that have required to use it.

  • @trophies1968
    @trophies1968 3 года назад +5

    Most employers give full paid maternity leave. Many employers also pay full pay when off sick, not all, but many

  • @stevieinselby
    @stevieinselby 3 года назад +2

    A great insult I heard was someone who got called Bungalow ... because he didn't have much "upstairs"!

    • @kumasenlac5504
      @kumasenlac5504 3 года назад +1

      I thought I'd heard them all but that's the dog's bollocks.

  • @iamaboredcat1556
    @iamaboredcat1556 3 года назад +7

    where did Eric and grace go??

  • @michael-pn9po
    @michael-pn9po 3 года назад

    Statutory Maternity Pay (SMP) is paid for up to 39 weeks. You get: 90% of your average weekly earnings (before tax) for the first 6 weeks. £151.97 or 90% of your average weekly earnings (whichever is lower) for the next 33 weeks. Remember the Tax allowance in the UK for a single person is: £12500 so - you only pay tax on income in a fiscal year above that amount.

  • @unknownregions5014
    @unknownregions5014 3 года назад +11

    I would add electrical safety, the UK is far far far superior with electrical safety,

    • @davidh.4649
      @davidh.4649 3 года назад

      Definitely with the electrical outlets and having fused plugs on everything. But those pesky ring main circuits ...

  • @markwilliams4110
    @markwilliams4110 3 года назад

    My employer sick pay policy: 100% wage for 6 months, 50% wage for 6 months and 0% after a year.
    Statutory Maternity Leave: you get 90% of your average weekly earnings for the first 6 weeks and £151 or 90% of your average weekly earnings (which ever is the lowest) for the next 33 weeks. £151 may not seem much, but cost of living is different in the UK. You also have paid time off for antenatal care. Paternity Leave is similar in terms of money, but in addition to his partner having a baby, a man can have paid leave if adopting a baby or they are having a baby through a surrogacy arrangement. I don't know how time gets divided up, I think that is left to the parents to decide, but I do know that a mother *must* have 2 weeks off after the baby is born or 4 weeks off if the mother works in a factory.

  • @MakerfieldConsort
    @MakerfieldConsort 3 года назад +3

    The fact that you praised our plethora of crisp flavours reminds me of the time (apologies if this has been mentioned before) when a pub landlord on the England-Wales border created Hedgehog Flavoured Crisps. Unfortunately he got into trouble with the Office of Fair Trading, because the crisps (naturally) didn't contain any actual hedgehog - the flavour came from pork fat.

  • @glennwheatley2877
    @glennwheatley2877 2 года назад +3

    Really miss you guys. When are we going to see you again?

  • @redvelvetshoes
    @redvelvetshoes 3 года назад +4

    On top of statutory sick leave , there’s employer mandated paid sick leave, as long as you’re on an assured hours - as opposed to zero hours - contract. So it would depend on hours worked. But full time - a 38 hr week - that’s a LOT more than 52rs a year. In fact , SSP only kicks in after paid sick leave runs out

    • @handsoffmycactus2958
      @handsoffmycactus2958 3 года назад

      What are you on about? No one I’ve worked for offers sick pay. It’s unheard of to a lot of brits

    • @jenblack98
      @jenblack98 3 года назад +1

      @@handsoffmycactus2958 do you actually live in Britain. If you work a wage job you are entitled to paid sick leave, maternity/paternity leave and paid holidays. If your employers aren't then they are breaking the law and you should go to your union. Paid sick leave is incredibly common and most Brits have heard of it

    • @fionagregory9376
      @fionagregory9376 3 года назад +1

      @@handsoffmycactus2958 I am sure it is written in the law.

    • @fionagregory9376
      @fionagregory9376 3 года назад +1

      @@jenblack98 yes you are right.

  • @eamonquinn5188
    @eamonquinn5188 3 года назад +1

    Your first comment about sick leave is generally wrong.The UK amount you quoted is the legal minimum. I've just noticed it's been stated below, but many employees would get 6 months of full pay, followed by 6 months of half pay if a sick period should last so long. There are also complications about sick leave within a certain time period. i.e. a recurring illness with times off sick and times in work.

  • @Rectal_Scattergun
    @Rectal_Scattergun 3 года назад +7

    I've experienced sick pay in an old job where i got full pay for 6 weeks then dumped on ssp, which is what you describe. Not great.
    But then earlier this year in my current job i was off sick due to surgery complications and the company offered me 6 months full pay, which was a nice as I didn't have to worry about bills whilst recovering.
    Statutory Sick Pay offered by the government is stupidly low, and is not nearly enough to live on.

    • @MonkeyButtMovies1
      @MonkeyButtMovies1 3 года назад

      And self employed people don't get anything, my brother is self employed and wasn't entitled to anything when he had to self isolate.

    • @simonsaunders8147
      @simonsaunders8147 3 года назад

      SSP is to help you out. It isn't really designed for you live on in the same way as you would your normal wage.

    • @Rectal_Scattergun
      @Rectal_Scattergun 3 года назад

      @@simonsaunders8147 can you clarify how it's meant to help?
      SSP only comes once any company offered sick pay stops, so you now have no way of paying for any bills.
      The £96 p/w offered is considerably less than any minimum wage, I'm not sure how it's meant to help.

    • @simonsaunders8147
      @simonsaunders8147 3 года назад

      @@Rectal_Scattergun £96 p/w is better than £0 p/w.

    • @MonkeyButtMovies1
      @MonkeyButtMovies1 3 года назад

      @@simonsaunders8147 But it's not much good if you have rent to pay and a family to feed.

  • @Cecilia777100
    @Cecilia777100 2 года назад +5

    I LOVE your videos. WHERE ARE YOU/ why no new videos. please send some more. Love you both

    • @drivingiron
      @drivingiron 2 года назад +1

      They explain on their Facebook page.

  • @nellloveridge4890
    @nellloveridge4890 3 года назад +5

    I'm so glad you posted because your channel is so good

  • @pratosaurusrex1128
    @pratosaurusrex1128 3 года назад

    What I have heard about maternity pay in U.K. is that, if the employer agrees, the employee takes whatever remaining time off they have in that year before maternity leave, do the 37 or 52 weeks maternity and then take the majority of next year’s time off. Means that you can have up to 62 weeks time off, up to 10 weeks is 100% pay, 9 weeks is 90% pay and the remaining at statutory minimum. Most prospective parents also try to save money for the time they are paid the statutory minimum.

  • @jan3599
    @jan3599 2 года назад +4

    Hi Eric and Grace, how are you? You haven't posted a video for ages, hope your both OK. ☺

  • @robcrossgrove7927
    @robcrossgrove7927 2 года назад

    I work for local authority. I can have 6 months sick on full pay, and 6 moths on half pay. After that, I would have to go ssp. I had a heart bypass in 2014, and only had 3 months off, then a phased return for a few weeks.
    Because I've been there for 20 years, I get 32 days Annual leave per year, plus public holidays.
    We also have flexi time. We record the time we get in and the time we leave, and the time for lunch. We can carry over up to 8 hours either side of our contracted hours. So if I work under my contracted hours one month, I can make them up the following month, and if I work over and above my contracted hours, I can take a flexi day off if I want.

  • @patriciaburke6639
    @patriciaburke6639 3 года назад +8

    So, you are learning French, because you want to live in France, the Old Enemy! Well, good for you, France is beautiful, magical even, property prices would appear to be considerably cheaper than in the U.K. houses are bigger with bigger gardens or even land. The weather is better and the French have even more holiday entitlement than the U.K. and if you can speak the language, that’s the biggest hurdle to overcome and they will love you for it. You might not be here with us, but at least you will be close by. Good luck and follow your dreams! 😷

  • @shawnblackhurst5246
    @shawnblackhurst5246 3 года назад +2

    Many jobs in the U.S. allow you to save sick leave indefinitely, at full pay. I missed nearly a year of work and never missed a Penney of pay. I received 8 hours of sick leave.

  • @Greg593
    @Greg593 3 года назад +5

    Hope you're both doing well!

  • @AnneDowson-vp8lg
    @AnneDowson-vp8lg Месяц назад

    English here. I used to have 5 weeks holidays. I took all 5 weeks off to go to Australia, and another year did the same to fly to New Zealand. These are such a long way from the UK that you need 5 weeks to get there and see the major sights.

  • @iandale948
    @iandale948 3 года назад +5

    i used to get 41 days holiday per year that was paid but that included all bank holidays also 6 months sick leave on full pay and six months half pay then ssp great to see you again your looking great be safe

    • @sheenamaclean8324
      @sheenamaclean8324 3 года назад +1

      Wow 41 days, that's impressive, even by British standards

  • @ethanb27
    @ethanb27 8 месяцев назад +1

    28 days off… 28 devided by 7 = 4 weeks off not nearly 6 weeks… american education system never ceases to amazes us brits

    • @rogergill1969
      @rogergill1969 5 месяцев назад +1

      But we don’t work 7 day weeks do we, so your maths is wrong, it should be 28 divided (spelt correctly) by 5 (the days in the week you are at work).
      Which equates of course to 5 weeks and 3 days holiday. What were you saying about dumb Americans.

  • @peterscott5968
    @peterscott5968 3 года назад +4

    Hi guys. Hope everything has been OK. Not seen any new stuff from u both for a few months now. Hope we can get to see u soon. X

  • @juliaf3044
    @juliaf3044 3 года назад

    Note that your figures for sick and maternity and holiday are for the minimum statutory - most organisations provide have enhanced payments equivalent to weekly/monthly salaries.

  • @almostideal1306
    @almostideal1306 3 года назад +5

    I once heard that the difference between the police is that the US have a police force and the UK has a police service.
    Also, please stop that accent.

  • @andykeogh6747
    @andykeogh6747 3 года назад

    Hi, There is a big difference between Statutory Sick Pay and Occupational Sick Pay. Statutory Sick Pay is available to anyone, working or not and is £96.35 per week for Six months even if you are Self Employed and can't work through sickness or injury. However, most British employers also offer Occupational Sick Pay which is the employee's FULL pay for six months and half pay for the next six months. After that you will just have Statutory Sick Pay but may qualify for a host of other benefits.
    Statutory Sick pay can be claimed from the Government by the employer (yourself if Self Employed) and if Occupational Pay is due it is Tax Deductible for the employer.
    It is nearly impossible to compare salaries between the USA and the UK. But basically
    In the USA the average working week is 44 hours, in the UK it's 37.5 hours.
    At five working days per week, 52 weeks per year Americans (may) have to work 2288 hours per year.
    In the UK we're paid for 52 weeks but only have to work for 1725 hours maximum, on minimum paid leave, I personally get nearly 7 weeks paid leave a year and I'm not even a teacher.
    So, whereas the average salary in the US is $48,000 per year that's about $21 per hour worked, in UK, the average salary is £34,000 or ,about £20 per hour worked.
    Admittedly Taxes are lower in USA but health insurance isn't provided or deducted from your pay by law. The average Bronze Plan for one person now costs about $800 per month and will it will still cost a fortune for Co-Pays and Deductibles (God help you if you have a pre-existing condition or your insurance decides not to pay). The average National insurance per month costs about £244 with no deductibles or co-pays and a maximum charge of £9.35 (in England only) for ANY type of prescribed drug.

  • @Believer3_
    @Believer3_ Год назад +6

    They still together?

  • @Bellenickna
    @Bellenickna 3 года назад

    NZ gets 5 paid weeks of holidays plus 11 staturtory holidays eg xmas, boxing day, new years day, anzac day ect. If u work a stat day u get a day in lieu and time and a half pay on that day.
    Maternity leave is for 52 weeks only 26 weeks at full pay but u get a government payout after the birth too and its free to give birth and stay in hospital as well as any one under 18 has 100% free healthcare including basic dental and adults pay to use gp only as hospital is always free. Some prescriptions are not subsidied otherwise it $5 per item for 3 months supply. All basic cancer treatment is free like chemo and radiation and surigical removal ect. And almost all health conditions are covered. Sick leave is usually 7-10 days full pay but u can often use your holiday days as well.

  • @davidrigby3874
    @davidrigby3874 3 года назад +3

    when i first started working for the n.h.s. i was paid both my normal pay including overtime plus statuary sickpay so i would be getting more per week than when working.

  • @ruadhagainagaidheal9398
    @ruadhagainagaidheal9398 3 года назад +2

    I think the UK has it for variety of crisp flavours. Back in the 70s ,one enterprising crisp manufacturer even marketed a hedgehog flavour !

  • @Graham6410
    @Graham6410 3 года назад +4

    When I was working for Amazon in the UK, getting SSP was pretty annoying as they made the process pretty difficult.

    • @Gambit771
      @Gambit771 3 года назад

      When I worked there I was off for two days but only paid for one.
      I had to have an interview when I came back and when I asked why I was only paid for one day they showed me a transcript of the daily phone calls I had to make when I was off and on the second day I didn't use the word sick so they classed it as a normal day off.

    • @Graham6410
      @Graham6410 3 года назад +1

      @@Gambit771 They did the same when I was at LCY2, even had notes from the doctors I had flu.

  • @eleanorlyndon865
    @eleanorlyndon865 3 года назад

    In the UK, our Maternity leave you get 90% of your salary for 3 months, 60% for the next 3 months, and 10% for thr next 3 months. For the last 3 months it's stat. So we can take up to a year off. Also in the Maternity Leave you get holiday pay so it can be extended even further.
    For Patunity Pay you get 2 weeks off. But your employer can give more.

  • @helenroberts1107
    @helenroberts1107 3 года назад +4

    We miss you both

  • @davidjones332
    @davidjones332 3 года назад +1

    I worked for a local authority which pays six months sick pay on full pay, and six months on half pay. That's fairly typical of many larger employers.

  • @ApolloUK
    @ApolloUK 3 года назад +3

    Manchester, the mother of working rights and democracy 😁🇬🇧

    • @ApolloUK
      @ApolloUK 3 года назад

      @RUclipsisrun bynastyignoranthypocrites 🤣🤣yeah OK... Educate me..

  • @kurthauxwell1147
    @kurthauxwell1147 3 года назад

    in terms of maternity/paternity. typically what i've seen is that in a household the parent who earns more a week takes less time off to stay with the baby than the one who makes less. for example a doctor or nurse (someone who earns alot) has a child with a shop till worker (someone who earns little by comparison) than the doctor/ nurse would go back to work after about a week off and the till worker would stay off until maternity/ paternity ends.
    if both parents earn the same they split the time off between them.
    but if both parents earn alot they usually take a week off together and then usually leave the child with the grandparent's.

  • @carolineshephard
    @carolineshephard 3 года назад +3

    I work for the NHS in the uk and we get up to 6 months of sick pay on our full basis wage 👍 I also get 8weeks of holiday as well

    • @WanderingRavens
      @WanderingRavens  3 года назад

      Whattttt. So lucky!!

    • @dalesheehan2546
      @dalesheehan2546 3 года назад

      I get 31.5 days paid leave. 8 bank holidays and an extra day for the Queen’s birthday because I work for a government department. So that’s 40.5 days in total. I can carry 10 days over to the next year if I want to as well say for when I want to plan a decent holiday. I too get 6 months full pay if sick before it is reduced to half pay. Like most on here, British employers tend to be far more generous in their employ terms on sick pay but of course there are employers who do only pay the basic.

    • @spencerwilton5831
      @spencerwilton5831 3 года назад

      Dale Sheehan Another great example of government wasting taxpayers money! Not disputing that everyone is entitled to a decent wage, but so many perks at taxpayers expense is impossible to justify. One of the reasons our retirement age is creeping ever upwards.

  • @pluggy86
    @pluggy86 Год назад +1

    When I saw this, I initially expected it was all silly things like crisps. I personally don't see rewarding laziness, discouraging industriousnees, economic staganation, and unaffordability as doing things better.

  • @hjr2000
    @hjr2000 3 года назад +3

    @Wandering Ravens - where are you? 😞

  • @vickytaylor9155
    @vickytaylor9155 3 года назад

    An apple crisp is not a cobbler. Apple crisp is a crumble with added oats (flour, butter sugar). A cobbler has a scone like mixture said to resemble cobble stones.

  • @jillhobson6128
    @jillhobson6128 3 года назад +3

    Where are you on RUclips?
    Not heard from you for ages.

  • @Spiklething
    @Spiklething 3 года назад

    In the UK you get paid time off whether you work part time or full time and this starts from the minute you start a new job, no working for a year or two before you qualify. If you work part time, your days off are a proportion of that which you would get if you worked full time. Everyone gets 5.6 weeks per year paid time off (as a minimum) and this includes bank holidays. If you work 5 days a week, you get 5.4 x 5 = 27 days off per year. If you worked three days a week you would get 5.4 x 3 = 16 days off per year.

  • @isaacmartinez6904
    @isaacmartinez6904 3 года назад +4

    Love your video and I hope you guys are doing well Wandering Ravens.

  • @connorward2400
    @connorward2400 3 года назад +2

    Good to see you back, I was thinking the other day I hadn't see a wandering ravens video for a while.

    • @WanderingRavens
      @WanderingRavens  3 года назад +1

      Thank you!! We're doing just 1 vid per month at the moment :)

  • @matc6221
    @matc6221 2 года назад +3

    Hope you are both good and well? Give us a update post if you aren't able to film 😉👍

  • @Rearda
    @Rearda 3 года назад +1

    There’s no excuse for not learning at least a few words of the language for the country you are visiting. Most vacations are booked weeks or months in advance, plenty of time to learn to be at least a few polite greetings or compliments and how to order food etc.

    • @susanashcroft2674
      @susanashcroft2674 3 года назад +1

      I have always tried to learn greetings, some basics but when I have gone to places like The Netherlands, Norway they have asked me to speak English as they wanted to practice speaking English!

    • @Rearda
      @Rearda 3 года назад +1

      @@susanashcroft2674 I've experienced that too (or a reply in better English than mine!) but it is appreciated, especially for languages with relatively few speakers outside their own country.

  • @RichardPHATMAN
    @RichardPHATMAN 3 года назад +3

    Where have you two gone. No vids for 3 months now.

  • @iandixon7641
    @iandixon7641 3 года назад +1

    It’s 28 days off on full holiday pay not 28 weeks.

  • @harryjosephcoghlan-murray3623
    @harryjosephcoghlan-murray3623 3 года назад +4

    When are you guys uploading again! It’s been too long!

  • @tonyoliver4920
    @tonyoliver4920 Год назад

    There's roundabouts then theres east Kilbride. Polo-mint city
    You don't navigate your way out of EK
    You plot an escape trajectory and orbital slingshot

  • @stevearmstrong9213
    @stevearmstrong9213 3 года назад +4

    Just to let you know. Saturday tea times I always watch old original series Dr Who episodes on dvd because it always used to be on at that time of a Saturday in the old days (I'm currently in the middle of Jon Pertwee's run). This week, I delayed the start of it to watch your latest offering first.

  • @courgette3401
    @courgette3401 3 года назад

    I worked as a nurse. I got 10 months full pay when I had a child. Years later I was working as a teaching assistant. My health want good and I often needed operations. Every year I took 3 months off sick . Some years I needed a number of operations and had 4 months off. I always got full pay!

    • @jasonsmart3482
      @jasonsmart3482 3 года назад

      Same for me never had to rely on SSP thankfully

  • @dolfin9879
    @dolfin9879 2 года назад +5

    Why have you stopped doing posts

  • @lordcharfield
    @lordcharfield 3 года назад

    Thing is that the maternity pay depends upon who you work for. Some employers pay in full for several weeks, plus the fact that although a combination of the man’s income, the woman’s maternity pay and state benefits (where needed) usually keeps the show on the road.

  • @brambam
    @brambam Год назад +6

    You guys still doing YT?